
The Lovings – their Supreme Court case in 1967 overturned laws against interracial marriage in the US.
Repost: This was first posted over two years ago. With more than 2,000 comments and still going, its thread is no longer usable. I am closing the original to comments and reposting it here. I added a bit about “preferences” and made some small changes:
An interracial relationship (IRR) is a dating or married relationship between people from different races. This post is about the ones in the US. It is an overview post – click on links to go deeper into a particular topic.
The numbers:
In 2010, 4.1% of all marriages in the US were interracial. The rate was 2.1% for White women, 4.6% for Black women and 17.5% for Asian women.
Interracial marriages, from most common to least:
- 21.3% Asian woman, White man
- 19.7% other woman, White man
- 19.7% White woman, other man
- 15.7% White woman, Black man
- 8.8% White woman, Asian man
- 6.8% Black woman, White man
- 2.7% other woman, Black man
- 1.6% Asian woman, Black man
- 1.5% Asian woman, other man
- 1.1% other woman, Asian man
- 0.7% Black woman, other man
- 0.4% Black woman, Asian man
Notes:
- Hispanic/Latino – not a race.
- Asian – everyone from Pakistan to Japan, from Mongolia to Papua New Guinea is one “race”.
- other – presumably Native Americans, mixed-race people, etc.
Myths:
- “I am not racist. My girlfriend is Black.” Right, and I am not sexist because my wife is a woman.
- “Mixed-race marriages will help end racism. In 500 years we will all look Brazilian!” The people in Brazil already look Brazilian – and they are still racist. Racism comes not from differences, but how people think about those differences.
- “Mixed-race children are better-looking.” Is that because being part White puts them closer to White ideas of beauty?
- “All Black men secretly want to marry White women.” Supposedly most Black men who make over $100,000 a year marry White. That could well be true, but not necessarily because of any secret desire: as Michelle Obama found out, most highly successful Black men live in an all-White world and become cut off from other Blacks.
Issues:
- Beauty is objective – a racist trope that comes up in these discussions. Pushed by Steve Sailer, Satoshi Kanazawa, Heartiste, majorityrights.com and their godfather, J.F. “Caucasian” Blumenbach. It is all beside the point because:
- Men are dogs – when it comes to race, it is women who do the choosing. Or so says the Columbia speed dating study.
- sexual selection and race – a study of Chinese American women found that those who grew up in White neighbourhoods tend to marry White while those who grew up in Chinese neighbourhoods tend to marry Chinese.
- Asian fetish – while there are probably White men with creepy desires for Asian women, the high number of Asian women married to White men mainly comes from the fact that Asian women are far less likely to grow up in same-race neighbourhoods than other women.
- “It’s just my preference.” – probably not if it falls in line with society’s racist beauty standards.
- Red flags:
- Exoticization – this makes the other person into some kind of racist fantasy, not a flesh-and-blood person. No one is exotic.
- Internalized racism – this shows up as badmouthing one’s own race, particularly the opposite sex. Examples:
- BWE Movement – thinks that Black men are DBR (Damaged Beyond Repair), that the answer is to marry White men.
- Tommy Sotomayor – the Black male counterpart to BWE.
- mixed-race identity – what the children of these unions will have to deal with at some point.
See also:
- Black women, loyalty and Black men
- My views on relationships between Black women and White men
- OkCupid and race and dating – a dating website with a half million people runs the numbers
- Famous interracial couples
- Adrian Tomine: Shortcomings – internalized racism and interracial relationships
- growing up biracial
“21.3% Asian woman, White man”, so why is “little Mr. Irony” so upset when 78.7% of Asian women are his for the taking?
“Asian – everyone from Pakistan to Japan, from Mongolia to Papua New Guinea is one “race”.” Great joke Abagond, I mean lumping such diverse racial groups into one big geographic one.
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Sorry to disagree with you Pumpkin, but the media that I am familiar with portrays Asian men as Kung Fu fighting machines or super smart computer nerds.
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I take Kiwi’s complaints with a grain of salt just as I do black women’s complaints about there being no “good black men” because wicked white women spirited them away. Apparently, 84.3% of black men are no good!
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“Racism comes not from differences, but how people think about those differences”? No, it comes from institutionalizing ways of keeping physically identifiable people stigmatized as an “inferior race”. How people think about those stigmatized differences is an important part of the process, but it’s instilled by the systemic process of creating a lower caste that also involves unjust laws which work toward the same end. So, where does racism come from? It comes from power, and it seeks to maintain power. How? By effectively pitting powerless people against one another and not against power. Instilling the norms of racism is a part of the process, not the sourcr of the process. But after it’s been sucessfully institutionalized, it’s difficult to tell the difference. Because by that time, it’s the norm. People need to wake up. Hence, BLM.
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i do close out a thread i am glad this one has some life left in it i’m never gonna shut up about that
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idk my writing is really taking off here thanks to abagond letting me find my voice i been said that a while ago
i was able to tell my wife the speech i prepared it was not elegant but its like the 5th time and i been on the road before for almost our first year
i have lost so much weight am almost back to high school weight 10 more # or now i’m counting in kilograms
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it like the oasis of peace here for me like shelter and ppl to talk to!
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ctrl+home or ctrl+end is supposed to go to the end of a block of a text not home and end that’s a line only operation classically speaking — it’s the api overlay like fb has it it was called guardian or some crap over on fb it overlays the input from the keyboard off the operating system
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im too scared
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which is not reasonable, ah man i don’t want to administer that project ie a blog anyway and answer questions and stuff, sheesh, i’m just trying to hold on to my family
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i mean we’re all coming up at the same time as tommy sotomayer everyone here all the regulars anyway have the ability to really do something
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No ima make the people pay for a book
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I love books
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me and my wife is equally yoked
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@ Abagond
“while there are probably White men with creepy desires for Asian women, the high number of Asian women married to White men mainly comes from the fact that Asian women are far less likely to grow up in same-race neighbourhoods than other women.”
If Asian women are less likely to grow up in same-race neighborhoods, shouldn’t that also apply to Asian men? If so, how do you then justify the disparity between Asian men and Asian women?
You’ve written against “objective beauty” so I don’t expect to see that from you. Also, you’ve written about internalized racism before, so surely, you know of it. As you can tell, I am wary of others denying the existence of racism against Asian men.
@ Pumpkin
Thanks for keeping it real.
@ gro jo
That 21.3% figure signifies the portion of interracial marriages that are of that composition. It also does not include dating or other types of relationships. It does not mean 78.7% of Asian women exclusively date and marry Asian men. Even if it did, given non-Asian women’s bias against Asian men, that would effectively leave about 20% of Asian men without the possibility of a companion.
If you really wanted to disprove the existence of racism against Asian men, you would have to cite some study or survey that proves women are colorblind, or at least lacking in bias. You will not find such a study as it does not exist. Therefore, your attempt to deny the existence of racism against Asian men and trivialize our hardships is lacking.
Would it be appropriate to simply dismiss gro jo as a troll?
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i havent written gro jo off
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@pumpkin you love abagond!
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When you’re controlling businesses and the world-over women will gravitate towards you. White men and Asian women are by far the #1 interracial couple in America and probably other western countries as well. But ask yourself would an Asian-American be caught seen with a White man from Appalachia or suburban America? The same goes for the rare interracial relationship of a Black man and Asian woman. Would an Asian-American woman be caught seen with a Black man from the so-called ghettos of America or Prince Georges County? Statistics would agree that Asian/Asian-American women are in the “best” of relationships in America. We have to factor in a lot of things without polarizing Asian/Asian-American women and non-Asian women. Outside of my profession, I train two Asian-American female clients and I listen to the things they say in regards to relationship and compatibility.
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@ Pumpkin
Your link is very interesting. I agree with the article. I work in a similar environment and I have noticed that Black male teens (athlete or not) are considered tough and cool by their White and Asian-American peers whereas Black female teens are negatively stereotyped as “ghetto” or “loud”. Some Black female teens have to prove to their White and Asian-American peers that they’re not what the stereotypes project. The only exception to these negative stereotypes placed on Black females are the Black female teens who are biracial or the ones who grow up in lily-White suburban neighborhoods. I see all of these things with my own eyes.
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@ Pumpkin
Again, I agree. As much as Black men are despised in America and the entire world Whites have a dichotomous-relationship with the Black man. Whites are known to befriend the Black man for economic gain (like in college and professional sports) but despise him when it comes to being independent, socially and economically. The same is true for Asian-American men. Whites befriend the Asian-American man for academic gain but despise him when it comes to business competition.
White men love dating or marrying Asian woman because of the “submission” stereotype. From what I’m told by my Asian-American female clients most White men love dishing out their sexual sickness on Asian women. My Korean-American client told me to watch a horrific video of a Korean woman getting abused by two White guys inside of a bar –>
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM7HB_CIweY ).
I was told by Asian-American female clients that this kind of savagery takes place in the privacy of White male/Asian female homes too.
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@ Pumpkin
“And some black men endorse these anti black women stereotypes because they are too weak to stand against them.”
Why does Tommy Sotomayor come to mind?
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@Michael Cooper,
One community in PG county (Fort Washington) is more than 10% Asian (mostly Filipino) and nearly 3/4 black, and is in the top ten wealthiest majority black communities in the nation, yet they have many Filipino churches, an old age Filipino retirement home and even a shopping centre with mostly Filipino stores. I am going to take a closer look next time I go there to gauge the social interaction between Blacks and Asians there, but I don’t think Black-Asian couples are unheard of there.
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Originally Posted By Pumpkin
In the white community white males give their women HELL. They have websites which bash their women all the time
http://www.returnofkings.com/
http://mensrightsactivism.com/
http://www.rooshv.com/
These sites make Tommoy Sotomayor look like kindergarten. Not to mention the fact that white men for the past 300 years have controlled and oppressed all aspects of their behaviour and plus white men are marrying and dating Asian women in way higher % numbers than black men are getting with white women.
But guess what ? White women (In the main) are loyal as hell to white men. Even the white feminists they don’t tend to run to black men.
Originally Posted By Pumpkin
Farrakhan says it best
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNHDVeUedVE&feature=youtu.be&t=277)
You have some self-hatred in you to think like that. You’ve been on this anti-racism blog for years and you’re sick as hell with that thinking.
And the women who do this don’t even care if that white man sticks around because they feel that a black men will always be there for them. It’s funny how race specific many women are when they feel they are worth something
I personally know black women who have done this. They have firm no black policy when they feel they are worth something. It’s almost like they are on a mission and when they have completed their mission.
They go to church acting overly polite. Black women don’t have that fear that white women have. White women know they can’t have kids to a black man and then have an easy time getting back in.
End of the day the way you think makes sense if you understand the system of white supremacy
All women not just black women, have problem submitting to a black man. All submission means is co-operation. In other cultures, women have no problem with being submissive to their man but women have problem submitting to black man because black men are dependent on the dominant white society for most things.
AND BLACK WOMEN SEE THAT and no women wants to submit to a guy who has to submit to some other guy. Hence the universal appeal of white males.
This is why characters like Olivia Pope in Scandal are so popular with some black women. This confident black woman who is making all these moves is suddenly a 100% submissive when in the presence of what she considers an alpha male.
That’s why I love to see black women RIDING for the black community, likes Francis Cress Welsing RIP, Sharazed Ali.
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The first part of this blog entry lists statistics, the second part is opinion. Although, I agree with most of those opinions/concerns, I couldn’t help but notice that all of them are negative. It comes off as anti-“interracial” dating.
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@pumpkin feel the agape and be the alpha
and…
that’s nothing new what i’m sayin to you
and if you date out you can’t get mad at someone for dating their own race sheesh
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re: tommy sotomayer i think we are all jealous of his money he has all this equipment and it is squandered it is an example of how not to act, a perfect example of someone who dates out but gets mad at dating his own race
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and i think since, if you look at abagond’s postings in 2010-2011 (more or less when everyone became aware of tommy), compared to now? we are all coming up now — and he is an example of a nobody now somebody — just use your powers for good? someone told me that a few times, a couple people even, everyone here’s writing is improving!
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i was up in the rough stuff a little bit last night a couple of the black guys that live here came up and got me out of my stupor, like leah girlfriend did
i told her ah shit she knows gtfo i love her
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can you see why i don’t want to be a teacher
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I just learned Frederick Douglass second wife was a white woman. Even back then I’m surprised he wasn’t lynched.
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“Other” seems to be for all intent and purposes Latinos who identify as neither black or white (which is most of them).
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Hip hop said,
“In the white community white males give their women Hell ”
I don’t think that entirely accurate. The links you left are MRA’S which only rep a small segment of white males and are not made up of entirely white males. MRA’S just hate on women because they can’t get laid. The problem is always women, femenism ect never themselves and their own inadequacies around women.
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I’ve been in an IR relationship going on eight years. We are lucky to have each other and it’s healthy and normal.
In thinking about it and I don’t belive it works just because we are of different races. In fact that we are of different races has the least to do with what makes our relationship work.
After all these years we are intimate and sex is still hot.
As a couple we have increased our economic worth by working together towards specific monetary goals. If we had never hooked up its likely we both wouldn’t be as far ahead as we are today.
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(shakes head..)
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Bryan wrote: “That 21.3% figure signifies the portion of interracial marriages that are of that composition. It also does not include dating or other types of relationships. It does not mean 78.7% of Asian women exclusively date and marry Asian men. Even if it did, given non-Asian women’s bias against Asian men, that would effectively leave about 20% of Asian men without the possibility of a companion.”
Nonsense, a Chinese-American acquaintance of mine solved the problem with a plane ticket to China, where he got himself a very good looking bride. He was no Adonis or his Chinese equivalent, Pan An.
“If you really wanted to disprove the existence of racism against Asian men, you would have to cite some study or survey that proves women are colorblind, or at least lacking in bias.”
I wasn’t trying to disprove anything, I wanted to annoy Kiwi. Damn, he didn’t take the bait! Anyway, it sounds like you are really complaining that white women don’t go for you as much as you’d like them to, than you are about a dearth of Asian women to date and marry, because white men have spirited them away. Your argument is redolent of the “No good black men” one some black women make, and just as phony.
Pumpkin wrote: “@ Gro Jo,
It’s not that there’s no good black men, it’s that the media portrays black people as being masculine and this stereotype benefits black men in some ways, but does not benefit black women, so in the dating realm black men tend to have more options than black women.”
Black men have found black women feminine since time immemorial. Taking the ‘media’ as a point of reference doesn’t sound serious to me. Let’s take the example of Serena Williams. A number of commenters can always be found to make the claim that she’s ‘masculine’. Do you take any of these claims seriously? If you do, show me a “male” with her figure. Note that nobody ever pointed out how “ruggedly handsome” Amelie Mauresmo was, Sharapova’s broad shoulders or Sam Stosur’s well muscled upper body. Give me a break with this sort of nonsense.
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Originally Posted By gro jo
Black men have more options than black woman. ?
Dude
P*.SSY Will Always Be In More Demand Than D*CK
Women always have more options.
Plus the path to romantic success for black men is not an easy one. Black men are not nearly as popular sexually as some myths claim us to be. But for some reason many people still think that a lot of non black women have this hidden obsession for black men, a discreet preference that they hide only because of widespread shaming and racism.
Now this isn’t completely untrue.
But the reality, however, is that the typical black male is not that hot of a ticket as far as non-black women are concerned. A black man who wishes to consider romantic options outside of the black community will face many substantial challenges.
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I have heard the pejorative term “Queen of Spades” used by some white men and it made me just sigh a huge sigh. They use this to describe white women who like dating/marrying black men.
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I love my wife
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And like the old adage goes “Once you go black you never go back.” Well for white women it’s because they can’t go back. White men will never go behind a black man. And I wonder what is it with those Kardashian women? They love black men. So I wonder is it a fetish or a preference? I think feitishization is creepy as hell. Now if it’s someone you feel is your soulmate and you actually feel genuine love for them that’s one thing. But doing that creepy fetish mess that’s just wrong.
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“TheHipHopRecords (@TheHipHopRecord)
Originally Posted By gro jo
It’s not that there’s no good black men, it’s that the media portrays black people as being masculine and this stereotype benefits black men in some ways, but does not benefit black women, so in the dating realm black men tend to have more options than black women.””
TheHipHopRecords (@TheHipHopRecord), Did they not teach you about quotation marks where you went to school? If they did, why are you trying to attribute to me Pumpkin’s words that I quoted above? Your criticism should be addressed to Pumpkin, not me. I expect a modicum of intellectual honesty when I debate somebody, you lack that quality.
Pumpkin wrote: “@ gro jo,
if it were just nonsense we would not have the disparities that we have in society. It just kills me that some black men refuse to acknowledge their male privilege.”
Care to expend on that thought? Name me the disparities that exist solely due to “15.7% White woman, Black man” couplings as opposed to “6.8% Black woman, White man” couplings? If your thing is to appeal to all men, equally, you have my sympathy on your quixotic quest.
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@gro jo
Yeah sorry about that. I got my quotation marks wrong. That quote should have been aimed at pumpkin.
@Pumpkin
I’m just writing a reply to your post
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Its Friday. Get ready for a laugh. With all the great things youtube has brought us, it has also given a lot of stupid, uneducated people the ability to publish gobbledygook as fact. A while back, I was surfing the black sector of youtube (which is just bad as any other sector on youtube) at my own leisure and came across this video that listed “18” reasons why white women date black men”. I never laughed so hard my life. You have to watch this if you want a good laugh.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiNx1tvleD0)
Below is dunderhead’s (Toad face) response to the video. Good grief, what an idiot. His response is just a bad as the video he responded too. Black woman are this, that and the other. Question: Who are these white women that find him attractive? Are they Eastern European mail brides or what? His arguments are devoid of facts. Just speculation and superstition. Like the weirdos who believe Obama is a reptilian man.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd3gHG63wpo)
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I agree with a lot of these points with 2 exceptions:
1. Pakistanis are Caucasian and East Asians (Chinese etc) are mongoloid. They are different races and I guess should not be categorised together.
2. People say mixed race children are pretty because they tend to balance out the features of both races which is often pleasing to people’s eyes. Also, white and black people say this phrase as much as each other, so can we please not make this about a supposed inferiority complex? We do ourselves no favours when we use supposed complexes as a narrative for so many discussions on black issues.
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Why is this still even an issue?
I have dated mostly white , but also East Indian, Jewish , Latino and got interested in one totally fine South Korean professor. Married white/Jewish. My point is..people are doing to do ..what they do. No one can control your tastes and interests unless you let them. Truth is most folks don’t live authentically because well….what other folks think become too important to them. That is sad…we only have one life and a short time span …..why give in to the opinions of bigots and morons?
oh, yeah I am an African American female black,negro ,coloured, slavery ancestry, the whole bit…yada ..yada
But I do admit in a certain socioeconomic strata, you cannot even find black people! Gotta go searchin or something! And it really is hard to be on a social island during work, or school etc. I’m no fool, love or hoping for it in this country is not colorblind …nothing is.
But more black people around you in more spaces would be so nice.
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Me personally. I disagree with interracial relationships.
Black people have been having sex with white people for centuries. Tons of it. Not just in the last 30 or 40 or 50 years. But for centuries.
Has not solved the race problem.
That needs to be thought about
Black people on this planet are in a weak position. So the person who puts you in that weak position comes along and has sex with you ?
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@ TheHipHopRecord
Women all over the world are second class…regardless of ethnicity.
You have a right to your opinion..live it out…others are allowed to live out theirs.
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Originally Posted By Jacque
No black men ? Interesting.
Why are you bigupping other groups of men over black men ?
I also get tired of hearing people say black men go for “red bone” or light skinned women. Trust me if you look like this
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-2I3pgB-iqjk/Vgx-HUJW4YI/AAAAAAACGcA/GjP6XVWy4wo/w346-h429/15%2B-%2B1
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-xUhcIMnDQPk/VjTfyWMO8QI/AAAAAAACGHA/qwSJUj4RXK8/w346-h519/15%2B-%2B1
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z_GCxJY_CSk/VcAPPsQdOTI/AAAAAAAARxc/PQ7RHkIjZyQ/w346-h519/15%2B-%2B1
Men would be throwing there bids in all the time.
But guess what ? All my life I’ve watch in absolute in ASTONISHMENT as even the most haggard of white men can pull a gorgeous black women like the women above. I can’t even COUNT the number of beautiful, BEAUTIFUL, black women that I have seen with white men who were nowhere near being their damn equal.
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Asian men do have it pretty bad when it comes o media representation, it’s not even subtle by any means.
That being said, I support interracial relationships (as long as it’s not done out of fetishism or something).
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Pumpkin,
“I want to know thoughts, would it be bad if a black woman slept with a white guy, had a child, but didn’t want to be in a long term relationship and then decided to go with a bm? What would be your impression/thoughts?”
While I believe it’s best for a child to have two parents it’s not mandatory. It’s better to end a relationship and find a better one and not suffer in a bad relationship just because of the child. No, the woman would not be “tainted”.
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All sexual relationships include fetishism, as I understand it. Why else would you believe that one person, with all the faults of the rest of humanity is somehow special?
@Pump, what you’ve given me is a list of complaints, not proof that black males enjoy ‘privileges’. Your problem is that you’re stuck on what whites find acceptable.
“Just look at sports, it’s a bunch of bm and seldom are there any black cheerleAders that means less opportunity for bw,…” Take that complaint up with the white team owners who do the hiring. As for the black females being more masculine trope, I gave you a concrete example of an individual who has been tared with that brush, I want your opinion on whether you consider Serena Williams more masculine than her competition, If you do, state why you agree with a bunch of racists, if you don’t tell me why you think they are making that claim?
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I mean fetishism as in: “I want a person of X race because it’s ‘exotic’ and basically anyone of that race would do because they all look the same”. Not being attracted to a person with faults of the rest of humanity.
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TheHipHopRecords (@TheHipHopRecord),
I agree with you that there’s no dearth of very beautiful black women. I want to take this opportunity to add Tami Williams, a teenage model from Jamaica to your list. (http://www.stormmanagement.com/models/tami-williams/)
I disagree with you when you condemn interracial couplings because such relationships or any other relationships concern only the people involved. As for Open Eye mag’s claim, “People say mixed race children are pretty because they tend to balance out the features of both races which is often pleasing to people’s eyes.” I don’t believe it. Two ugly people will not produce a pretty offspring because they are from different races.
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Reblogged this on Shapeshifters: Living With Dissociation.
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“tared” should have been “tarred”
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so was that racist when national geographic showed that arabic girl with the crazy color eyes on the cover then did a followup later is that the epitome of the white conception of exotic? or it was at the time before the internet maybe you know it’s like the bible speaks to the heathen if they knoweth not the word
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*on not to [the heathen]
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well that thoseppl blog or whatever the half white half black chick was talking about no black men in her socioeconomic stratum and stuff it’s the stereotype of the executive black female who never dates partially
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“I think Serena is gorgeous but that doesn’t stop other people from calling her s monkey etc. also bm don’t help the cause by routine,y screening out women who look like Serena for dating and marriage…I see the colorist myself so don’t tell me it doesn’t happen.”
@Pump,
Are you trying to be funny? What about all the bw who date wm or light skinned men because they are too good for anything else? You write as if only bm are responsible for seeking companionship outside the race. As I’ve said above, people should go for what their hearts desire. Race shouldn’t be a cage. You haven’t answered my question. Let me repeat it again.
” Name me the disparities that exist solely due to “15.7% White woman, Black man” couplings as opposed to “6.8% Black woman, White man” couplings?”
Please don’t refer me to some prior conversation or hand me a list of complaints against bm. Just state how bm being slightly more acceptable as ir partners has disadvantaged bw.
Be concrete. Why are you getting on the case of bm for something that’s really the preview of white management? How many black cheerleaders would you be happy with? It seems that you want to claim the world victim championship title for bw.
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Originally Posted By Pumpkin
Women who think they should be able to attract men by being successful are like men who think they should be able to attract women by being sweet or gentle and nice.
Both of these misconceptions are examples of the sexes projecting their own desires onto the other. It is women, not men, who find career success attractive, because it demonstrates drive, focus, strength, initiative – masculine qualities.
Likewise it is men, not women, who find gentleness attractive, because it is a symptom of openness, receptiveness.
Originally Posted By Pumpkin
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Beauty, racism, red bone my GOD what a mess …whatever. I am black and female…happy to be those..AND I am happy to let others be who they are. Because I have found that
a man… is a man…. is a man..True, men are not all alike…. they are individuals too……I never had a “preference” other than fellas who are smart,funny, respectful, .But ..I do respect those who say they have a preference… whatever the preference is based on. Live! Just live your life!… despite the BS going on.
So, if a man covered in polka dots is my soulmate and treats me wonderfully…I’m going for the polka dots!! I will love polka dots , speak polka dots…etc..I will treat him well.
POLKA DOTS ! Yippee!
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@TheHipHopRecords
I see things differently.
Submission and cooperation are two very different ways people interact with each other.
Submission is the state of being obedient; accepting the authority or control of someone else.
Cooperation is a situation in which people work together to do something.
Cooperation implies consent. Submission implies a lack of consent.
To me, men who demand submission in their relationships with women are men with deep inadequacies. Lacking self-mastery they compensate by seeking to control others. Conversely, people who have gained mastery over themselves (in their emotions and thoughts) are never anyone’s slave, no matter their outer circumstances.
In my view, confident and emotionally mature men relish relationships with competent and cooperative women who are ready to pursue shared goals.
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The world is full of guys who have to submit to some other guy. That is true in every country and social group.
Historically, Black women have seen the men in their community deal with disrespect and abuse from White men. Even after witnessing such negativity, Black women still love, respect and show solidarity with Black men. Black men traditionally responded by loving and protecting Black women (as much as they could in this violent White Supremacist society).
A case in point is the structure of the current Black Lives Matter movement. Many people targeted by the state are Black men and boys. Yet, BLM’s ranks are full of Black women who are tired of state violence against Black men and women. They’ve prove their loyalty and devotion to Black men by braving inclement weather, militarized police, government spying and lack of support by some of their elders who should know better.
In my opinion, many Black men have abandoned their protective role toward Black women. Instead they heap abuse and disrespect on Black women in any and all public forums (street corners, barbershops, websites, music videos, Youtube & the pulpit) they can find. Then those Sultans of Some-Nerve-stan spout platitudes about obedience and Black women’s ‘proper’ role in the community.
I think some Black men should do the hard work of self-mastery, learning to control those inner spaces of the mind and the heart. Such men have no need to control others. They understand that controlling themselves is a full time job.
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all day i belong to leah
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black women are not for everybody
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mines wild and free and wise beyond
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oooh i been tryin to work that in: wisdom that passeth all understanding
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“preview” should have been “purview”
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akon dont gaf my favorite line of his ‘i could sell pork to a muslim’
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Christ, people come here to write nonsense. I don’t know any perfect black men or women. I don’t know anybody of any race who’s perfect.
“A case in point is the structure of the current Black Lives Matter movement. Many people targeted by the state are Black men and boys. Yet, BLM’s ranks are full of Black women who are tired of state violence against Black men and women. They’ve prove their loyalty and devotion to Black men by braving inclement weather, militarized police, government spying and lack of support by some of their elders who should know better. ” This is a blatant “feminist” lie, BLM and other self respecting black organizations have also protested the victimization of black women, BLM’s membership also includes men, so stop your lying in order to impress your white feminist patrons. I’m sick and tired of reading such nonsense. Did you fail to notice that police violence threatens black women as well? Ask your white feminist friends what they plan to do to put an end to police terror against black people. Yes, I did notice that you stated that violence was directed at blacks, regardless of their sex, but you give the false impression that only women are fighting back, hence my qualification of your comment as a lie.
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give it tf up
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the polices must be contained
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thou durst not say it like shrek
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Franchesca/ Chescahleigh Ramsey one of my favorite social media personalities is in an interracial union, she said it bothers her when people learn this they say things like “Oh you will have such cute kids. This is not true all the time. I’ve seen some unattractive biracial kids. So just because a couple is interracial does not guarantee the offspring will be attractive.
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@ gro jo
Abrasion and quote twisting make you feel more powerful, gro jo?
LOL! I also noticed White feminists are dead silent on the subject of state violence against Black people. That is not too surprising, considering they only care about other White feminists.
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i love you guys right here right now
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that aint never hurt nobody
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Stop making the same tired arguments. You’re tired of discussing this? Good.
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“yeah and bm date out as twice the rate as bw and there are far fewer bm than bw just from numbers so bm would have to be going out of their way to avoid bw whereas by default some bw will HAVE to marry out just based off numbers Alone.”
Nonsense, bw marry wm because they want kids with “good hair”,etc. I don’t have a problem with people doing what they want, but I sure as hell will not seat still and read a bunch of self serving lies to justify such choices.
As far as I’m concerned if a bm or bw picks someone outside the race, that’s their business, just own up to the real reasons you’re doing it. The lack of acceptable blacks isn’t it. No your kids won’t be beautiful or smart if you and your mate don’t already possess these qualities. People don’t become good looking merely because they are the result of an interracial coupling.
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@ Afrofem- “LOL! I also noticed White feminists are dead silent on the subject of state violence against Black people. That is not too surprising, considering they only care about other White feminists.”
Haven you heard, they already fought for our rights so now it’s time to help them out earn their white male counterparts in the movie business.
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@Danny
Good point!
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V8Driver
pumpkin you love abagond!
I don’t even post on here that often and I have wondered 🙂
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Why is anyone surprised by white feminists? Mainstream white feminism sees only white (western) women as “one of their own” and sees black women and other women all over the world only as supporters of their cause or treats them as some child-like people, with condescending and the “let me tell you what you really need”, while ignoring racism perpetuated by white women.
That being said, it’s also true that many groups simply lack intersectionality. It’s just the fact. It’s not rare to see black men seeing “black” at referring to their problems and oppression alone, while ignoring sexism and internalized racism against black women.
Most groups care only about problems that their group faces, while ignoring their own privilege. This is not surprising, but it’s saddening.
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Former child stars Tia and Tamera Mowery of Sister Sister. They are biracial and Tamera is married to a white man. I saw the Oprah Winfrey special Where Are They Now? They are both married with children. Tamera’s spouse is white and Tia’s spouse is black. Tamera was in tears because she has been attacked viciously in social media. I find it strange people would respond to her in that manner because that is the life she and her siblings grew up with. People just need to leave theses people alone and let them live.
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In regards to white feminists they could care less about black women and their issues never have this is nothing new. That’s why black women have the womanist movement. Black people have to take care of their own issues. Stop looking for others to aid us. Black folks need to handle business in their own communities. Stop looking to white folk to be the savior.
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@ Danny
In my personal experience in business, whenever a true White feminist has taken over, THE FIRST THING THEY DO is get rid of male minorities and then get rid of any female minorities who will not prioritize their gender identity over their racial identity. They see nothing wrong with an Org Chart filled with all Whites, just so long as those Whites are all women like themselves.
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@Mary Burrell
Truer words were never spoken. No one will save us but ourselves.
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@Mira
I agree many groups lack an awareness of intersectionality or what Professor Ronald Takaki (author of A Different Mirror: A History of Multicultural America) calls the “terracing of oppression”. In American society, only wealthy White males experience no oppression at all. All other groups experience some measure of oppression in the form of classism, sexism, racism, heterosexism and ableism.
Some groups like working class White males experience mild oppression in the form of classism. A working class White male who is also gay and disabled tumbles down to the terrace where his identities intersect and open him to anti-gay bigotry and disadvantages based on his disability. Yet, he is still retains White male privilege, which counts for a lot.
I am grateful to Black Womanists and Transgender activists in the Black and Latino and Asian communities who have worked so hard to develop and daylight the concept of intersectionality. Being poor and Black/Latino/Asian-American and male to female Transgender is a classic example of intersectionality that lands you on the lowest terrace, subject to abuse and deadly violence on a daily basis.
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@Afrofem: Right On👊🏿👌🏿
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Afrofem,
I agree, but the point is that most people see only where they are disadvantaged and don’t see their privilege. (And most people do have some form of privilege… For example, all people you mentioned in your post are Americans, and that means privilege on itself, compared to people living elsewhere, especially in non-Western countries).
It is not a bad thing per se. I mean, it’s kind of normal to think of your own group and how to help it. And it’s sure normal to notice where you are disadvantaged while not noticing where you have privilege (general “you”, not you personally).
The trouble is when one’s own fight against oppression makes things more difficult for other groups or is directly targeted at other groups, like white feminists mentioned here, but the mechanism itself is hardly surprising.
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@ Mira
You are correct. How I see disadvantage and privilege is fairly narrow most of the time. Many Americans are pretty insular. I think it is part of the two-oceans effect. With only two land neighbors, Canada and Mexico, the world and its people can seem very far away sometimes.
Transgender activists that I’ve read and heard have helped me see my own privilege and my own intersections: cis-gendered female, able bodied, educated, working class, American of African descent, native English speaker and heterosexual.
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Afrofem,
Yeah, I agree… I mean, I wasn’t directing my comment to you personally (I use “you” in general sense), nor do i disagree with you. In fact, I agree with you and my comment was meant to be more a continuation of what you said and not a critique (sorry if it didn’t sound like that; it’s my fault).
I just wanted to say that these things are hardly surprising on itself (groups caring about their own interests) – it’s the way they do it that can be a problem, especially if it’s done by harming other groups and without any attention to intersectionality.
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Originally Posted By AfroFem
Feminism makes women the eternal victims who are also paradoxically strong and independent. How can anyone expect normal relationships to flourish under such toxic belief system ?
I firmly believe that women should be responsible for themselves. I don’t want women to cry, complain, and blame their problems on men or the society at large, and I believe that women are adults who shouldn’t be coddled by other men.
Also who were the people out on the street marching for Sandra Bland, Rekia Boyd ? Yup.Black men. Who were the ones protesting on the streets of Ferguson and Baltimore ? Black men. Who are the people who have historically have always put their lives on their line for black people ? Black men.
And yet you sit there and say black men don’t protect black women ? Let’s see these white men face tanks and get shot at, and beaten, got to jail like many brothers who stood up against apartheid and racism.
Originally Posted By AfroFem
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Some black men do that. No question. No doubt about it. But many black men don’t and to be honest a lot of black women use that “Black men hate us” as justification to date white men.
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Pumpkin,
In many animal species males actually harm their own offspring and sometimes kill them (sometimes in order to get the females to enter into heat again so they can mate with them since they would not do otherwise). There’s just not a general rule… Plus, humans are shaped by culture and not just biology. Let’s not compare ourselves to animals.
I do agree with you 100% that equality doesn’t mean that women want men to treat them like other men. It’s not the point of equality (for everyone to be treated exactly the same, because not everybody has the same needs)… The point is for everyone to have same opportunities and not to have drawbacks just because of their gender, or race, etc.
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@TheHipHopRecords
What is your definition of adult? What are the rights, responsibilities and privileges of an adult? TheHipHopRecords, in your mind, does gender make a difference in how an adult is defined?
In this comment:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/02/11/interracial-relationships-2/#comment-308849
you wrote some variation of the word submit seven times. Given your repeated use of that word, a person could conclude that to you, women = submission. Why is women’s submission so important to you? What purpose does women’s submission serve in your life?
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@Pumpkin
Thank you for pointing that out. The network of groups under the umbrella of BLM are dominated by Black female activists, both as leaders and followers.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ferguson-women-protests-20141122-story.html
They are active and visible with Black men who are also putting their bodies on the line. As I heard one young activist say in Minneapolis, their organizations are “leaderful”. All of the men and women in the organizations act as leaders and followers—-stepping forward as needed and stepping back as needed.
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@ Mira
I understood your comments. You made valid points. Thanks.
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Submission/cooperation is patriarchy plain and simple. It is dictated as how things should be between men and women in “holy scriptures”, religion and had been drummed into society. It is utter B.S.
(I appreciated how Afrofem broke it down)
Opppsing this idea that women must submit to men means opposing patriarchy. Opppsing patriarchy doesn’t necessarily mean embracing femenism. Hip hop brought up why femenism too can convolute relarionships.
Healthy relationships are based on mutual respect which is a part of balance and cooperation.
A healthy couple instinctively protects each other. Their is a tradition that men protect “women and children first.” But women can give their lives up just as easily as men because love is the root that holds functional relationships together.
Plenty of men have had their lives extended because women have a way of making them get check up’s and medical problems get caught earlier. In reality women save way more men then men save women by nagging them to go to the doctor. lol
BLM los Angeles seems like a diverse crowd of men and women. Some of their events are for POC only.
In the end it’s about rights applied equally to both men and women.
Whenever femenism or MRA’ s go on about how evil the other sex is, it doesn’t allow a safe place for a balanced, cooperative relationship to develope.
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Well, well, well, little Mr. Irony still has a bit of sense left!? Good job Kiwi.
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@michaeljonbarker
I so agree with that statement! I also believe that balance, cooperation and consent are key to healthy relationships. Without those elements at the heart of a relationship, it can quickly devolve into a master/slave or dependency situation.
True feminism has been distorted by both the media and some feminists themselves. To me, feminism in its purest form is no more about domination over men than Black Freedom is about domination over Whites. My understanding of feminism is that is about correcting historical imbalances in female/male relationships with a goal of equality. That may or may not be a threatening proposition according to who you are and how you see the world.
Balance and respect are paramount. Those qualities must be inside individuals before they can express them in healthy relationships.
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How about doing a post on inter-species marriage? I am a Tharkess from Mars and my husband is from Uranus:
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@ Afrofem
Exactly.
I fully agree with this statement.
It always bothered me how some people try to distort the essential humanist drive that lays behind the feminist movement, namely, to address traditional women’s inequality and even oppression in many societies, pretending that the goal of said movement would be a disfiguring of social order and a push in the direction of anarchy. Those people even convince many women that feminism is something that they should be against or ashamed of.
Thanks God that in my youth I read books like Dominated man; notes towards a portrait of Albert Memmi or Frantz Fanon‘s The Colonizer and the Colonized, where I learnt a basic moral value: to be against every oppression of humans and to be for the emancipation of humans from said oppression.
This does not mean that everything assumed feminists do or say is correct or cannot be submitted to scrutiny, and also not every attitudes from anti-colonial militants are necessarily correct. But the point is that the attempt to free humans from oppression is always a move in the right direction even if individual attitudes of some people inside said movement can fail to be correct.
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@pumpkin we all have our own crosses to bear
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Mary Burrell,
“That’s why black women have the womanist movement. Black people have to take care of their own issues. Stop looking for others to aid us. Black folks need to handle business in their own communities. Stop looking to white folk to be the savior.”
Cant the same thing be said of black women in regards to waiting for bm to be their savior?
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@Solesearch: I believe that can be applied to black women waiting for black men as well. But black women have been handling their business for quite some time. I was talking about white feminists and black women/people.
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@Mary Burrell
So true!
Many of us get the “you will have to get a good education or skill” speech when we are still in elementary school. We grow up knowing we will have to take care of ourselves.
Instead of respect, we get called “unfeminine” and “too independent”. Sometimes it seems you can’t win for losing. But I’m still glad I got the speech and acted on it. The womenfolk in my family knew what they were talking about.
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@Afrofem: Agreed
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On a lighter note, happy valentines day
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@munubantu
You are right, munubantu. Oppressed people also have their blind spots and sometimes lose sight of the pain of other types of oppression. It is so easy to sink in the well of your own trauma and forget there is a wider world beyond the top of the well.
The labor to free others from subjugation is a worthy effort even when it is not successful. Professor Derrick Bell in his book, Faces At The Bottom of the Well ,speaks of the benefits of such efforts:
Professor Bell goes on to discuss the “humility required by genuine service” that compels true allies to follow the oppressed, honoring their need to craft their own remedies and develop their own leadership capabilities while we provide support and solidarity.
Thank you for mentioning the books, Dominated man; notes towards a portrait of Albert Memmi and Frantz Fanon‘s The Colonizer and the Colonized. More books to add to the reading pile….
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Mary Burrell,
“@Solesearch: I believe that can be applied to black women waiting for black men as well. But black women have been handling their business for quite some time. I was talking about white feminists and black women/people.”
That is true in most regards, but I dont feel that is true when it comes to our relationship to black men. There is a strong anti-interracial dating sentiment among bw. Black women consistently put the reputation of black men ahead of their own safety and happiness.
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Dang, Ab. After reading these comments are you happy you’re married?
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@ Uglyblackjohn
Marriage has its downsides too.
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@Pumpkin
Most likely. What do you want to find?
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It seems there are so many women who hate black men.. why are there so many black women who once they become degree holders and obtain any mediocum of success instantly attack black males worth in a white dominated society. These women are no better than Tommy S. if anything they are his counterpart.
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i promised her i’d get us home, it’s one i intend to keep
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blackjew714
I don’t think most black women hate black men. I do think a sizeable number of black women have no respect for black men. I mean – Women across the board have little respect for black men. And when I say black men I’m not talking about Will Smith. I’m talking about the everyday brother on the street.
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yay, her sister has chosen to go with ‘have you stopped beating your wife yet’ on facebook, enchante
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1294735883889175&id=100000583284153&refid=17&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1294735883889175%3Atl_objid.1294735883889175%3Athid.100000583284153%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1456819199%3A-83431252675668102
So much drama in the abg
NSFW
*ping*
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I think most men should be in female led relationships! Less problems. You know you want it!
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/female-led-relationships/
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@blackjewblackjew714 & TheHipHopRecords (@TheHipHopRecord)
I think it’s safe to say women, particularly black women who think that way about black men tend to have some serious character flaws of their own.
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Its a bish, i promised her to not drink its not her mouth day 10 that is a firm estimate all i gotta do is go down to the living rm and sit down most nights and wont pay a dime sheesh high degree of difficulty simple=/= easy
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dayum i can buy lunch today i like the mediterranean like arab chicken over a salad
jesus mary and joseph with a three on the tree
@pumpkin pretty sure i found your blog before abagond’s, originally.
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she accused me of lying about writing about myself because this format is invalid and it should be written down i think my new aa sponsor is supposed to help me and of course that is the autoethnography
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omg the sponsor a dorky white guy but sober is also of the opinion its got to be written i am gonna have a panic attack i dont want to write about the sex
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back when vickie was alive the working title was “you call everybody darlin (someone taught me how to be mean)”
at some point after that it became “diary of a sex fiend” which is a vamp off of aleister crowley’s “diary of a drug fiend” (cf ozzy ozborne’s record “diary of a madman”) so that is too busy of a street, and may cause confusion about my total reticence to that part of the story,
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it’s not going to be called diairy of a sex fiend that is not trite but hackneyed even then
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i think i will only do book signings in states where a convicted felon can wear body armor
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eh i’m all ready to go got a troubleshooting job on the way to the ‘clubhouse’ where homeless and on the fringe people can go to meetings every day it’s like a bar, but not? it’s hard to explain but today for me it’s called doing the step work and so today well i haven’t done this for a while — i got to step 3 before with great difficulty — but it leads to the 5th step which is in lockstep so to speak with the work that i must do to write my book, but i feel like i’m going to court, sentence life, of no alchohol oh well
yay you go up levels and crap recovery Role Playing Game or reality who knows i cannot drink alcohol for any reason whatsoever
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Oh thank god i got her on the phone today my exwife was also jealous of time spent in meetings lucky im not too proud to beg like a d a w g dog
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the sponsor mentioned me quitting weed i don’t think so
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Ooh thank god she came over, top seed for the week, ie that’s good when you’re with your loved one on saturday night!
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so the sponsor and the wife have met… that was one of those look down at the floor until you can’t take it moments. it was the wife and i’s first meeting, so … anyway now that i have calmed down a bit, i sense my reticence to write is mirroring that situation above in terms of what i did when i was high/drunk is not really compartmentalized? worlds are colliding? idk i am really struggling with this right now… i can’t really understand where ‘i’ go when i’m blacked out and want to kill people/myself and wreck stuff…
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’50 shades of cray’ tres apropos mais tres gauche
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Rick and Michone on The Walking Dead. I am not mad because I think Rick is sexy.
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the sponsor is completely non-supportive of me continuing to smoke weed, dammit, i went to a na meeting now i have to start my stupid clean time over due to weed that sucks but ican’t lose this sponsor, its not like i’m physically hooked on it i told him, i dont want to be sleazing through on the dl
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coke and alcohol is the real clean time for me idgaf i hate to say it but i want to see my kids
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it is the weed meeting on thurs lucky? i guess? that we have one in philly
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well i got my chain back, and it’s fixed now, and her bracelet too
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Christelyn Karazin, shameless scoundrel who preaches that white men are superior and black men are inadequate and the same person who posted articles from Colin Flaherty, a right wing racist bigot has finally shown her true colors in her defense of a white hbcu student’s use of the n word on his twitter page when a story came out showing this student posting empowering messages about black women on twitter.
http://bossip.com/1296402/blackwomenaregorgeous-russell-schiller/
She also has a problem with white women who are relationships with black men as see here in this facebook thread.
Black male student started the hashtag #ILoveBlackWomenBecause several years ago – not a single article was written by these bwe scoundrels who love to view black men as women hating beasts. This hashtag was featured on blackenterprise mag top empowering tweets of 2014.
Again, we have already scores of black men and women destroying Tommy Sotomayor and his anti black messages about black women to the point where he is now cast off to the fringes of society. When are we going to see the same happen with these bwe hate mongers?
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anyway so i started irrirl @ wordpress up again, it’s taken some time for me to find an even keel, it has proven to be coffee cigarettes and marijuana for me. so … it’s a lot of work to make a blog that looks as nice as this one! and there is all manner of devilish back office stuff like php database to really lose your way in so I’m just sticking to writing. just worked out my taxes and student loans too hey who knew this recovery crap would be so helpful, lookin at grad schools too, its’ working out good wit the wife!
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Actually we have this sort of buddy system now to ward off the cocaine ald alcohol cravings. And she started her own business too. Temple U. has a small business incubator; we’re both going to go and check it out. It’s amazing how fast she to some degree learned off me with regards to all that.
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@v8driver
Good luck to you and your lovely wife with the new business ventures!
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hey thanks afrofem i see you!
i have a real small room after i got in the last fight she’s moving back in soon bringin her cat even.
i’m glad she’s gone right now i been working for like 1.5 days straight
idk i have to really clarify wtf i am going to say on my blog
i am going to do a post on abagond maybe next so i can justify a long delay
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in the style of that was how the teachers got us to write even including during periods of writer’s block
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and that’s recursive and self-reflexive
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@v8driver
Go for it! Finding your voice and writing for an audience is work.
Good luck.
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Getting a thorough lecture on my time management skillset
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she was also quite pleased ‘ha ha i got one up on you’ in that she is allowed to get a passport, ie due to my child support deficit i am prohibited from leaving the country, and of course i reminded her she is also allowed to purchase a firearm, she did a little happy dance, sheesh it goes both ways
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an oh no we won’t be leaving the rent deposit for the next crib in your account, dear
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they dug up our sidewalk because the gas bill was $5k, the manager who basically represents it as his house blah blah blah it’s a whole mess the rest i couldn’t even say…
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have to move on the morrow the landlord has code problems, a gas bill/levy, and three people (one 9.5 months pregnant) living in the house without paying ugh so he’s shutting the house down tres gauche, i don’t owe anything to him, hey this time i didn’t get arrested or evicted and i get out of the 24/7 crack and dope neighboorhood, it’s better this way
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oh lord a truck ride did not happen as promised and suposed to get new keys our stuff is scattered all over town omg and it’s freezing outside!
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she says ‘this is a fake black blog’ i didnt really say but abagond probably has more original content than 45% of american newspapers at this point maybe even including editorials
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not comments either
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ah lord here we go again, so it’s looking pretty grim in the marriage department for me and my wife. So, one of the tenants that lives up stairs, basically a wanna be pimp, broke his own door down and threw his gf/bottom b___h down the stairs after she said she was pregnant, imagine that, this i heard from my wife who was home when i was at work. so about a week goes past, and this guy has a little 32″ tv in the room, so i clean it up and use it, right, it didnt go anywhere, so the bull comes back about 2 weeks later and says, hey did you see my tv, and of course me and the wife have been on a week long coke run, and at the time, i was like here’s your tv, take it back, i was holding it for you. so i’m high as anything, he’s saying he’s going to kill me, blow my head off etc. we both called the cops, and of course, they declined to press charges for him kicking my door in or me giving him his tv back, which of course my wife agreed to, and is of course the main tv consumer in what ever life our ‘nuclear family’ has left. so he goes outside he’s yelling at her, and i’m just like wtf they are outside apparently he was telling her he was going to pimp her out slap the shit out of her ( i heard some of that), i’m just waiting for the cops to come, now i’m a failure as a man etc i can’t defend her, i just had assault charges dropped not 3 months ago, and of course i’m 47 yrs old, she just assumes no responsibility for the approx. $2000 in the last 2.5 weeks spent on our habit, so she has all kinds of stuff to say none of it good, well it lasted a while anyway
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yer theories and such please.
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thank the goddess she did come to see me and bull came back around, we were coming back from getting some take out and the guys slaps my food out of my hand, and says ‘ya aint eatin that up in there’ ie the house, omg and then he grips me up as i intervene between him and her as he starts chasing her down the effing street with his car, blocking traffic, running in the street he wouldn’t hit me though, i dislike pimps greatly
@abagond, this seems to be getting eaten but registered as ‘posted’ so please delete 2nd comment inb
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she is right this is like and you may just scroll up to codify, done been kicked out of like 4 places in a row just straight fightin dudes omg thank god i aint been drunk for any of them in a long time
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well the landlord got us out to a new spot, it’s an upgrade, so far so good 🙂
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That last post seems remarkably prescient. This cat showed up and attacked and robbed her 2 blocks from the new spot. I was at work. Broad daylight.
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Today is Loving Day many interracial married couples are celebrating today.
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Despite it all 🙂
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good thing my cat came home cuz it’s time to move again how nice
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oh wow i do have an unacceptable BAC of over 0.0 right now; however, the landlord used a screwdriver to enter this some type of 2 room and a full bath but shared kitchen?
it’s like i just you know get the $500, $600 just getting by like i’m trying to get where my wife can come back to me and the cat is coming too anyway thank you
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have a nice convo about dual income streams huh… the highlight was her saying ‘i don’t seem to have been able to change you!’ and so
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when you been through a lot of bad times? you can always just consider yourself ready, that’s what i can come up with, like oh well i was ready for this
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Well its a block party today and well i do have family… Did get it in this morning on another late night issue with my beloved on the order of oh last week it was our holiday but today its some white mans holiday designed to make you broke oh just because you had a talk with all black people aire quotes in the deep hood you all awoke and everything like that anyway happy july 4th i saw tge masthead here so…
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sorry not masthead and it’s here i go not really here i come
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i believe the reflexive thought was and i aire quote just like june nineteenth but decorum precluded, obviated, even, saying that
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yes omg it’s just unbelievebale now some old head wit a kufi on looked about to step to me the day after dallas 16 like i just looked at him, she’s on a bout the end times, this guy is on about false flag of dallas 16 jesus h christ with a three on the tree and you can quote me on that thank you have a nice day
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got into it this morning she was crying she is totally on board with enforced immigration of the triangle trade and got to the point of amenable to not ‘there’s no such thing as reverse racism’ but i had to go to work and now
idk you want to talk about reaching the black community on tv you have to admit OWN and tyler perry at this time ah jesus sorry my blood alcohol level is an unacceptable over 0.00% and i have to go to child support court tomorrow
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eternal conflict of work and play
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she still yellin now i made average $992 a week and she love to smoke and wow how to teach her over the last 3 months she dont get it
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Just to put a giant 12mm depleted uranium round in this day its the black boysiimenish acapella group on agt doing free bird i want to run away
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Want a brown world? Here you go
(https://youtu.be/7LRO91BwlYo)
Bi racial children Can not receive organ transplants. They die within hours. Natures way.
The bible us clear on it. See:
Tobit 4:12
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just got out of jail!! child support
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so i have fiinished the old testament and the new on some american version, prteety good although isiah and the prohepst was way worse than the chronicles/kings game of thrones era of jewish self-reported history
also the quran, lots of muslim dudes on the pod!!! praying all the time
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im am irish and perhaps intrinsicalty biased but michael crosson god & empire was amazing, i found it on the block, it exp,ains a lot about the roman empire and surrounding things like abram coming from ur and what not
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i was gonna go to talifa or whatever but they had the rugs and stuff and they let me go
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wow
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just got out of jail!! child support
How was the food?
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omg disgusting with mice and bugs all over and everyone is sick and the drugs come in under the trays sheesh its nasty
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Youre really manic today that works
Had to trot out youre really really impacting me psychologically in a negative manner with what youre saying that was a good one
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@V8
How is life treating you? Staying away from drugs, alcohol, and trouble?
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yes i am thanks sharina, got me some time away from the booze
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not drinking does not prevent those ‘mini-ray rice moments’ especially when the little… person there be hitting you! because she still drinks and smokes and wow we’ll see if she is gonna make it, she has a really bad perpetual cough and last time we smoked i felt sick more than anything like it was having a negative physical impact on me to a large degree, you know but she said ‘when i was doing all that cussing [yesterday] i was still thinking about you’ i am lessening the amounts of salt!
anyway…
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i been told that’s showing love in some quarters, high level of confidence even.
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omg well the busses are on strike now too in philly, how nice!
i should be able to get my license back sooner rather than later but i will have to have an ignition interlock breathalyzer installed, that’s embarrassing!
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it’s not looking good for us… she refuses to smoke and wants some type of unlimited budget for coke, so have a nice day, she says ‘she is moving out this weekend if i won’t’ as if! it’s my crib.
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Kick her to the kerb and stop hooking up with these addicts. They will only drag you down unless they have the will to stay sober and work at it.
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yes, herneith, my mom says the same thing! she is not going to change, and apparently moving out. Thanks for the moral support (seriously)!!!!
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got questions on the goddess today
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i told her yeah you be ‘all y’all’ one of us those people
she took exception to ‘you people’ as in everyone wind up with keys to my spot
and humanity in general
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Ehh whatever its a lot of work we’re equally yoked even though my family is all about tje advanced degrees and she is a street person so was i in the burbs. Ugj its too much to write right now but it shall be written
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I didnt even say people it was mfers like that raped me etc and are all just like that and she made it that extra ish i cant stand it for real when they twist your words beyond recognition.
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right well it was rough with the bus strike since obviously i dont drive now, and i hustled, and county assistance sees i just got out of jail, i got my stamps card from a lady in a full burka (black american) like with just her glasses out she was very nice and i hustled and recovering from mostly i’m p**sed she doesn’t acknowledge her participation in the moral societal and financial ruin ah jesus it’s a mess we have a lot of truces and cease fire and readiness levels it’s quite time consuming and also, well it’s pretty rare.
obviously without a sense of agape it would not be possible either but you know going back to the beginning, it is still there…
eh.it’s sad to have a “type” like that but if you don’t know you better ask somebody
it gets bad when we compete against each other, i’ve said it before, the competition for resources is real!
anyway
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well it’s a hoopdie until that breathalyzer ignition lockout thing is done, whatever, just need to carry a 6′ ladder at least, probably get a minivan gmc
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Listen to your mother!
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yeah but what i am supposed to do i dont go to bars anymore
and alcholics anonymous says you should be able to go anywhere without fear of relapse i just so close to just watch her smoke it makes me want to run but i have nowhere else to go
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no we’re supposed to get blood tests and get married on 11 dec 16, it’s gonna be 3 years like since our i guess you’d say muslim marriage from sw philly
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like not official my mom won’t even come down to meet her mom and her mom do not like white ppl
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my mom is like the faces change but its the same scenario you have to get out of the environment idc if i live in the middle of a corn field if i get the itch it will be scratched and that is not cool but reality
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and since i really dont want to make foxhole prayers, it is a problem fitting zen and my thelemic schoolings into the 12 step model omg you have no idea
OK I WILL GET MY NOTEBOOK AND WRITE! and get the book done, thanks herneith you are ok by me!!!
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6 actual out show responding
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she told me today my thing is you know to have #5 that noone will take from me it would be a ginger black she smoked her utures to oblivion i told her as probably she was questiongin something intensly personal to me
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rainbow bridge, man on the corner of the continent lemuria
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I realize there are systemic problems when dealing with people who have addiction problems(jail is not rehab), a society of enablers etc. . However, distance is called for when you are sober and your partner is not. I have an alcoholic friend whose husband was a functioning alcoholic. They both went to rehab and have been sober for six years. One could not have done it without the other.
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lol {insert favorite slogan/cliche here}
i’m defending my black wife to abagond wow
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i just need to let her smoke if she needs it i guess i have to just watch it is so hard the tanha it is called
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not drinking is a personal triumph for me, one thing at a time!
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it’s my dysfunctional and possibly DBR family and i want it now!
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and then she came home…
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Its quite liberating even more than this android phone even to be able to express to my black wife oh i feel like we’re having an abagond moment today that was after she told me i couldnt be a doormat because i dont do ish for her hmmm… My mom wont have her. Her mom wont have me or her sister now its just great but i was always thinking somebody’s always been saying we want to see the grandkids etc too bad our oven dont work just the top part
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In re: tgiving aka 24 nov 16
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Omg at least i was working 3 days after i got out and get paid 2 or 3 times a week besides the agape apperently
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Her mom graciously deigned to allow ‘us’ to bring our turkey via bus train and trolley to be cooked wednesday. To be finalized over sterno and chafing dishes at our place… i found like a catered buffet at a hotel but she didnt think it would be ‘romantic’ but more like for homeless ppl for some reason. Negotiations continue!
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Im insulted ver the anti witch invective lately.
I cn watch her smoke i told her and im doin it
Blessed be
Fortuna deae nomen est
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She mockin me now calls all yall nerds omg they told me in california and nj you just dont walk around with a gun its called agape its so simple
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Wow but you have t maintain a peronal bundary with agape u know because the unbelievers they dont like it and they may not act in concert. but its the only way .
Its buddhist the tattvas like personally poisoning emotional reactions
Never drink the koolaid its poison
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Eh its called wetanschmerz or zero point energy i forget which
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@ v8driver
Everything She touches changes, and everything that changes She touches.
Bright blessings and happy Thanksgiving.
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Wow solitaire how did you know what to say thanks:)
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*ping* also netiquette i shall address
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Extra credit is regular expression in google. This little… Person done gave a black eye tonight they dont say nothin at work usually
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Wow the hbo loving special yawnfest i guess yu have to be a little bit of an outlaw anyway the new movie we’ll see
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Dude malik i just met said i shouldnt hit her if shes pretty for some reason at least the weed it helps thats the blue jar
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Well we’re home for turkey day so far so good
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thankfully i got medical assistance im taking dual diagnosis outpatient and also domestic violence offender class bc she is lying and laughing at me and i really dont want to drink and black out and just beat the crap out of her
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Im just disgusted
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She is deranged today smoking everyday carrying paraphernelia omg i watched her smoke like 4 bags last night i wanted to snap well i have two medical intakes tomrw n saturday the dv is 5 hours omg
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Well she smoked as much as humanly possible last night and screamed at me for 4 hours now she has all her stuff packed up kinda like steve martin in the jerk says she’s leaving i’m kinda relieved smoking crack is not the problem she says ok honey
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now she put all her stuff back and whatever i am soon to have my license and then can put some miles in between its a frickin heartache for sure
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Leave!
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Perhaps i’m guilty of positive thinking whatever. I found a driver on cl. Hope do spring eternal. My business has some how survived this bs, going to jail etc… And i’m actually doin good. If i do make a move it will require a lot of thought and well it never hurts to be ready i reckon. And the emotional potential impact of walking away in success would be undeniable. Never make your move too soon
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it is the batterer’s intervention program i have to go to, ugh well i had a nice bitemark on me they saw i can pick ’em i said, iq test with logic puzzles ugh and a dsm-iv multiaxes diagnostic scantron wow and history of course, the psychologist went with im so close to watchin her smoke i was able to understand it enough to convey it to him, he was cming at all angles like a snake to see what i would say next, also to save time i reckon, and also i have a drug counselor too, time will tell! im ok today tryin to understand my impact on others that may be like vulnerable and stuff anyway
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i will have been out of jail (for child support) just 2 months, and now i’m invited back to family court for an enforcement conference, omg i can’t go back to jail
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eh. results are inconclusive today, general deescalation vibe promulgated mostly by enhanced efforts at rational communication!
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interesting dynamic i was able to say i’m googling how to tell people unpleasant things? that would really help them out? police officer, paramedic, no… oh no i’m getting ratted out i had pre breakfast vodka she’s talking to me now
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her and the girl upstairs and me and wow the other new guy that told her he was going to throw her down the stairs
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She says she’s moving out today, i hope so, she pulled the butcher knife on me last night and cut me, threatened to kill me etc. She’s worried about light bulbs she bought, so i’m in the dark, her idea of poetic revenge? Whatever, it’s a safety issue at this point, she’s been smoking every day for like 2 weeks, and acting like a little 5 year old. I actually yelled back at her last night, glad it’s the last time, what ever the bitter invective does for her i cannot abide in my so called home
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I went to my first aa meeting since i been out, tres aprops, no? It was downtown, and without getting personal, it was almost all white for the whole meeting, i feel like something has gone full circle. I mean i’m talking about domestic violence and, well, you know, and i’m pretty sure one white woman there was so scared she went back inside as i was exiting the church after the meeting, not you ‘box of wine’ issues, that hood ish, whatever…. Ugh she still didnt leave yet, im told shes gonna apologize but im not seeing anything in my inbox yet.
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She went buck azz wild again and my feral cat bit me real hard too, hmm rabies and immuniglobin shots are not fun… She promises to call fir a counselor today… {messin} with the wild things i told the student dr at the er
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Well she blacked my eye and made de it all red from blood init the damn cops didnt do nothing 2 days ago and today she done run out of crack money and hurt me again and the cops she called saw her out and she brought her sis and some large man back and i got hurt and she stole my phine she sposed to hv a warant i wish she would just get help i told the cops thank jsus ima felin or i woulda capped all 3 of them u just dont come in someone door like that omg it my home godsmit
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For the record, if they smoke coke let ’em alone. I am striving mightily to move on and not let this poison me. Of course once my face heals up i am free!
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One thing I wonder about Hispanic/Latino people in the U.S. is don’t a lot of them have some Native American ancestry?
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it’ll be nice to not feel like i have to carry my phone, keys, and wallet with me to use the bathroom upstairs; however, the locks do need to be changed. I am somewhat shamelessly seeing how lame okc, pof, etc still are after 5-6 years, right now, i’m not worried about it, but meeting someone that’s not semi-homeless, unemployed, and completely subjugated to cocaine and alchohol would be a nice thing. I am not going to worry about it, right now i am trying to get to talk to my children (the boys at least) on the phone, even that is a process. am i glad she is gone, jesus!!!!
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these two that came over with the ex-BI live a block away and right next to each other, trying to get over like fantasizing about putting a crew on them, having linda beat them up, make a drone to fire freon powered bb’s etc not good, man, and happy mlk day yes there is no new bank money today
enchante’!
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i mean they’re supposed to celebrate you when they’re dead/gone right but did you put them/you there too? #ijs
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that didn’t come out right but actually it might pass inspection
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the shrinky dink black guy ‘head shrinker’ at the wife beater school wants me to go back, of course, it was a blurred line of something pretty heavy with race too, talking about the families etc ah jesus i do not want to take them pills
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Well my rent is paid, im not locked up, and due to her threatening my safety to my landlord im getting moved out of the city proper to a new crib gratis. Id considered this one chalked up in the win column. Ymmv.
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actually she orchestrated the whole thing, getting me out of there and resuming residence in the last place (for me) ugh well i slept there last night (not so much sleep) had a nice talk about ‘wild things getting squished into a box’.
the black guy shrinky dink did give me some other pills, i’m not so sleepy any more, idk i guess i was a little blacked out the night of the fight sheesh she had a point of view too, that differed from my impressions/ability to recall
we did need a ‘cooling period’ that’s why you can’t buy a handgun right off the showroom floor, ya know!
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shoutout to herneith again of course; but in this most curious of circumstance, the impact of having you last words walking out of her/your last place being “i don’t have a rent problem this week” is undeniable
sometimes the wild ones look at you;nothing shows love like a wild one
if you don’t know, well obviously
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Apparently? In general? Like 4-5% of people are smarter than me? She asked me why do we smoke crack. More importantly she said thank you for coming back home
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And? I still have my 2nd crib for 2-3 days if you dont know, obviously
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y’all woke stand up i said
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I love mondays right about 3am time to get up. You get all week too, not just 2 days.
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so my counselor for the wife beating class, as i described the wife’s overwehlming estrogen flowing over me she rapped like steps forward, back, the wife said the same thing almost word for word, well
i actually like/am good at my job, it’s so fun and great, and sometimes? after midnight? poetry just pops out of my head, the zen/pauciloquent thing, omg it is just unbelievable
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also i need a guitar a mexican or korean strat i think the music it comes too from above
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Shes saying forgive them its true i strayed from what jesus taught me the agape it is
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ugh the theme is she’s a discrete and uh less robust perhaps idk that’s condescending, ah man discrete human being i said it was all i could think of and i have to respect her boundaries it is a fine line!!!
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“sources say NO” actually, it is, i will not escape police custody tomorrow over child support, she out and drunk right now, i made her smile the other day i told her “at least we didn’t give up on each other, who does that?”
it’s true
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i guess if the die roll comes up ones i will not pass go and i think i will have 200 on the books but i guess the wife should get it for rent,
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i bought composition books, 5
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well she came home and we avoided open hostilities but i am not pleased
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Ooh i get to go out the front door of court today.
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well it’s definitely trouble in the turn she about to get put the eff out
but i must say, it did cause some consternation, i must admit to comparing the ‘crest commercial tissue teeth test’ to the ‘brown paper bag test’ i felt there could be no other way to consider it, it was not well received…
i am not giving up on black women just the one…
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i am on a mission to buy a house and car, license back in june she can sit on some raggedy couch have a great day! blessed be
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and i found a house for $6k and a car for $1k sitting in my buddy drive way you know some people just dont get it they dont want to learn after the fifth lesson or so on ‘wasted resources’ well it been about 15 ijs
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nothin to say just tell yourself i’m part of the world and the world done moved on just keep that to yourself and they’ll know, one day, and the joy sucked out of your essence do go somewhere it’s on you to make it work for you sublimation it’s called i think jesus’ example go real deep if you look at it just right
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Ugh still it lives… The beyond all she could say crying wolf always going back to him… Well that it dont end up like last time so mote it be
So it is priniting child fd docket style family court thingies for me… U know maybe in their early 20’s i can have a positive impact. Ugh my fb friends just dont even comment
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My business is doin great, phones, pbx like? It is my thing. But i want to sell them new sip trunking stuff
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Shes obnoxious i figured it out. And well idk her name the tv show superstore s2 around e4 talking about something ‘i’m going out with the boys i’ll see you in church’ ok maybe
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you know i started getin a bit uppitey like peasants grumbling she said well you do you and i do me and i’ll see you back at the ranch i told her that was daring the other person to f* someone. she said we don’t want that, i don’t want that; that is our bottom line, the keepsake, the reason…. say it loud and proud
talking bout her ex lol that’s the one i need to get in a fist fight with, ugh so much more to tell clearly i’m not there right now, i been paid my dues, 2.5 years without driving! so, it’s coming down to you know my car always gets there and back or wherever eh… i’m disappointed there a threshold of culture/abusive upbringing just becomes really irresponsibilyt and it is a slipery slope down to treachery! watch out now and have a blessed day!
-tc
🙂
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2 months gernerally speaking to a baseline driving privilege restoration possibility will occur, that is all
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that’s the great thing around here you can be in ohio, dc, or boston in 5-7 hrs
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and never forget anger is so pure it will keep you alive sometimes, but not recommended. and the wetanschmerz eh counter productive, it’s like duh…
i really dont care bc i made my nut for child support actually
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gonna be a lot
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well jesus taught me agape
the goddess taught me … huh if you dont know
the 93 people taught me free will
‘unbent unbowed unbroken’
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and if she all high, all due respect i don’t need my tween/early teen boys to suffer that
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me too
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Oh wow a popup ad for pinterest just came from this site i forget
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Well im going to a traditional drug/alcohol outpatient program and i have enough to pay my child suppirt. She says she’s moving out again, its like go head at this point. She made it clear she will not stop smoking that ish.
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well she didn’t leave and i had to pee in a cup today how nice!
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eh might try to snag a regular job on the road trying to get the wife to crew up but always that local ish
i’ll be ready for lockemup johnson or jackson the family judge my biggest job is tied up in corporate pushback! ah whatever i’m really moving the focus of my business to corporate phone and communication systems, like that have several or a few us branches the routers and security is so annoying much to remembr
anyway tryna git this BI home and go out imagine that oi vey iz meer
blessed be
ps she still maintains y’all aint black
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wow she came home im feelin lucky tonight
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You know ii if u rl feelin it withe the righteousness of conviction you can say dont question my love but also she needs as i say a black female counselor for childhood her sister told me too
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the agape it puts it on them, even then
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omg so i put in a 14 hr shift yesterday and the whole house is up at arms over her attitude apparently police involvment i was in a different state!!!!
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it was an incident between the wife and the ho upstairs to be fair the ho was hitting on me showing me her body parts etc i told her i would never do it with her ever. it’s bad, jesus christ, man, she at her sister house for a couple days i’m trying not to freak out actually i have to find my penndot letter a i think it’s june 2 and june 5 i think is family court i am just getting a whole pile of cash right now jesus she refuses to go to a traditional civilian hospital (rehab) only a religious dirty ghetto transitioning from street life to housing etc. its ltc omg it’s harsh like white painted cinderblock like jail etc. so, you know, she refuses to discuss her psych issues it is a plan always i find the spiraling path through the bullish it’s always there but she is working at least omg but frfr the things she has been through and sw phl is not 12th st in los angeles but anyway… wow man unreal but i’m ok i can concentrate and go to work. i’m not drinking! f that yo
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have a great day at least i have work tonight and cigaraetts and the rent
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so i have to start paying $300 a week to the head for child support i think next week it’s a goal it will be a ramp, or such i would say but i have a minute to get it right for that bald head bastard lockemup i am not going back to county but i will sure go to court
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omg i need 4 wheels under my behind stat!
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yee ha?
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also the agape it must be practiced towards one’s self, that’s how jesus i guess was able to show faith but did he practice it at the end? the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one? just objectively and abstractively speaking, of course
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idk i guess she got high and drunk she was blacked out apparently hit the neighbor with her keys, she carries a whole big pile of the and i required medical assistance last time she hit me with them!!! and she stabbed her big screen tv with a screwdriver or something, it’s time to move!
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wow so i am looking for a place now, i called it, it’s time to move. her sister is in her ear telling her i cheated/am cheating on her with the ho upstairs, ugh
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well she says ‘she has a gun on her’ ok? and she will ‘throw a cocktail’ ie molotov up in this bi etc lordie lordie lordie
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so i said i found a new room to see after work today she’s like love you too ah goddess unknown and unknoweable
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talking about quotes here’s one just from me to you
it is of little worth nor effort starting a war; stopping one on the other hand….
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wow,man! i do not get bored very often!!!
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There is no more dangerous game
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whatever she showed me her room last night and we smoked a lot of jamaican weed, i have my depost to move lordie lordie lordie wish i could sleep
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Well we made it to our new place
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wow so i let her trim my mustache due to indolence and irritation and wow what a mistake!
and so we went shopping yesterday and both got a few outfits and so forth, and today we’re 3 blocks from the new house and guess who we see but the ho from upstairs at the last place and her dude. wow, so the women set to the pre-scrapping ritual name calling and so forth and the other couple is concerened with video surveillance but what does mine do? buy bleach and maple syrup and commences to create an IED in the gas station with a tanker fueling the pumps right there, oh boy, so i stepped outside and light me a newport nothing happened, i made sure them too didn’t get within closing distance, how random, well we’re only about 15-18 blocks away from the old place
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omg i wish i could make this stuff up, so when you gonna write your novel, yeah right, i’m living in one, stuck even
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ooh another spirited debate tonight we did have a physical altercation police in the house event recently ooh she mad now
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puttin my business all on there she say
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Our first ~sober (thc only) major holiday, together, huh i gotta say several black guys have commented she’s so… That’s how she do. Whatevs
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it’s like flowers from her, letting me listen to the white music eh i pulled a triple
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these corporations clowin like they got another couple weeks to pay my tab is like $5k now im ready to hit the don’t panic button court impending
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woo hoo she’s wearing her hair out no more ponytail, i’m very pleased with that
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June 12 —
50th anniversary of Loving v. Virginia.
This is a Loving Day that I would love to experience back in Washington, DC.
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Interracial marriage became legal in Virginia 50 years ago today
http://wtvr.com/2017/06/12/loving-day-virginia/
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http://wearethe15percent.com/
things seem to be rapidly changing…
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We moved again, and the front of the house fell off, the fire dept put us out. Omg. Great landlord.
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Well fam ccourt tomorrow again, even; domestics 11 jul hope i got enough scratch the rezt i’ll tell u later
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@Abagond oh yeah always with the agape ‘i’m trolling’ and other things…
Anyway, the devil (you know or otherwise) is in the details i can understand ‘white flight,’ i’m getting my ish together and i feel like a ‘ringer’ sometimes ie you know othertimes im a$$ out…
Seen my man stone last night or the night before leah joined me up there ppl were like where u been, almost 10 or so. Crab barrel indeed. Well blessed be and light a candle to the goddess of luck, that’s in general mind you! 🙂
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Looks like i get to go out the front door today, happy 4th, if ya blow stuff up or watch!
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“Phase one in which Doris gets her oats”
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Patience and humility we keep reminding each other it’s a positive message, i say.
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This i guess should go on my blog too
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having an interesting thing with the wife re: (her call) 7 deadly sins, and degrees of intelligence, slices leading off into other specialties, she demands i recognize (here, even!) her superiority in certain of them, of course i have 9 states left to visit and um yeah the april 29th florence and normandie etc. so well she insists on being the alpha i wouldn’t have it any other way, ymmv! 🙂
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she posted here once under her name, i do encourage her to follow up, now…
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I told her. I lied i really never had a day of fun in my whole life i mean reall
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A lot of times…
Idk its true
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lol the general populace apparently refers to me as ‘turkey wing’ something about being white lol, the players laugh and say ‘tom bomb’ whatevs, noone called me turkey wing to my face
if they say ‘they say’ consider it a favor? approaching respect or a nod something like that ‘tip of the hat’
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i told her get me a guitar, i dont care how, its what i want
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@ v8driver
This thread should have been named “diary of v8driver”!
Eh eh eh…
By the way, v8driver, in your profile picture, is it you (White dude) + another person (Black guy? gal?) ?
Just a curiosity…
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Yes munubantu and am i grateful every day.
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@munubantu black american female, my wife, her name is leah.
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omg i hate arguing over weed
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i do smoke all the weed
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and another sortie of airstrikes from domestic relations! how nice
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someone better bring my damn boys to philly for a saturday afternoon real soon and i dont mean a county visit
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wow she is challenging me to a write off again, the last one kinda fell through, but for me, the story is obviously there, the potential energy? i guess is overwhelming of it, and obviously everyone i talk to is like, yes, tom, you need to write this, eh abagond talking about good porn sheesh i was not alone 90% of the time watching that crap so there is a lot of pi$$ed off people involved, i hate lawyers too soo, i guess i can just do it and send it to the editor, ugh its brutal though omg you have no idea. (yet)
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yeah im all effed up but i been making conscious efforts to improve my relationship ijs
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whee yet i still can say quite heartfeltedly? “another tool for your quest of total domination as an alpha” i mean what else could one say? omg well we have a somewhat flexible 24 hr rule, it kinda speeds things along that one landed in
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https://wordpress.com/page/irrirl.wordpress.com/62
so i’m starting my book, a public first chapter i will reel them in and take their $34.99 for a hardback, it’s just unavoidable, now it’s was a real series of flashbacks from california my wife was talking to me it’s not fair to leave that in there like a subroutine or malware
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my goal is 3-5 pages a day, well it took this long jesus
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omfg when vickie died its lik wow i was really seeing it again i had to stop too much real rap
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russell brand is getting some juice over his book, lol i think i shall buy a copy and try to learn something
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she told me today she got my back more than vice versa in so many words because apparently it’s popular? and im equated with the police due to my phenotype huh says someone who has not been arrested like 25 times
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luck or chance she asked me i said luck and skill
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real quick also some wierd back channel static re: what’s happening the epsiode with the doobie bros? no i went into depth. she found 100 years of lynching today as well, interesting. maybe that should gointo media bias thred
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Hi my name is Leah West and im married to Tom but he wanna take everybody else opinion off this website ,but im a Asiatic WOMAN of america ……HE better recognize its starts at home
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SORRY cross identity whatever no it’s my wife
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ah jesus we’re arguing she has a word press id lordie we’re working on it
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now were not arguing 🙂
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oh lord she told me she’s sick of seeing me so i you know pulled a job for today and she was mad i guess the drinking had well maybe just getting started (hers) i dont drink on the job and she was yelling at me and called me three times and i was putting a self tapper through a stainless steel covered pressboard counter top to mount the pinpad i dinged the dude’s ish up 3 times he did mention it, wow had to go to airplane mode she was mad but it got installed it was the dude’s first store (franchise) you dont even know we be home together though lately like for a while its been no egregious like at all i gotta say
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real quick the alcohol for $20 i can really just blackout and become a menace upon the land, the coke, like just to become someone i cannot abide and pay ‘mortgages and homes’ again if you don’t know {now ya know|you better ask someone}
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the coke, crowley said it a ‘moral’ issue, dope, speed, they are more physical, alcohol more than some
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ok writing sorry jfk i think im getting it dialed in shes sleeping its like a rare thing
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and no i didnt blame her i said i did it the drill popped off the screw off the self tapper i didnt have my 3/16″ titanium bit to make pilot holes and i couldnt borrow that so you know just banged em in i said i take responsibility eh its his first store he was like that red wire yes sir all fire alarm wire is red had to explain inspections etc also the scale on the cash register state, not township aii yaiii yiii i tell ya
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like look at the stainless at walmart bro but no not that one, ‘it wont stay like that for long sir, sling 50 lb bags of dog food (that seems to have mor nutrition than my whole diet) across it trust me on that one) eh it came out ok another store doesnt even have a google yet well thats what the power of a big company is
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corporate closed it out with pictures uploaded
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Russell brand, a white guy, british. He has a slick, ‘high production value’ downloadable pdf file for recovery from sex and intoxicants. It reads like a ‘vendor agnostic’ technical instruction manual. Ie watered down 12th step. It’s interesting in that i had a technicnical project i never saw through called unphuck to fix dameged windows operating systems.
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wow i guess cultural competence isnt a matter of life an death for some
well now we know
it is for us all
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i quit drugs and alcohol i hope they give me medical marijuana i have to go to pain management i told them i will not take opiates.
she stabbed me in the head with her glass little pipe and maybe i have a black eye you know i have to sit there and watch her smoke, it’s so hard, omg, i will never escape my demons by running
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back to counseling, i slipped a bit
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here we go, i got to say i’m not doing anything to you if they say that omg ‘shelter in place’ i can smell it
i told her the other day i will have my boys line up at attention for you and show you total respect but like on the other hand im like i have to tell them yes this is my wife right now i mean it’s not that deep
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blessed be! she insisted i admit to respecting god, i have some questions like evil and so forth but i went with it, she don’t like the goddes, still, jesus i turned my back to the plowshare twice now, and apparently my ebonics or what i consider cultural competence could be considered ‘drawing’ some how, i don’t say drawling well it’s been a rough one but she taught me a lot and she said we’re both not really going to leave, and like my mom said ‘hope do spring eternal’ it was regarding a cat but definitely a quote
so right now i am considering the boundaries of putting my sex life out there ie ‘on blast’ in my book, it just nasty really not mainstream? omg
2 peas in a pod today she said she yells a lot though, it’s known though, through the neighborhood
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living in the hood and being assimilated are you for real
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(https://www.facebook.com/V8Driver/posts/10214556877704235)
soulfly – tribe
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f a mirror you just like me FO
she said uh huh
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some times it helps? to just spit on the floor, i guess its a jersey thing its a whole thing like
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having a problem now!
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no i didn’t steal your rock i watched you smoke it, ‘f u you stole it from me my man so petty that why all them mfers crack on me it aint got nothing to do with me’
today is a wreck
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my theory again as always you know bring $1000 home
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time kick my boots up and to listen to some black sabbath and finish this 40
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but that’s just me
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSFSBufM7cs)
anthrax – invisible
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they told you dont walkl around with a gun and a list of names its easy just say no
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now it’s a whole thing the white man holidays blessed be have a great day! 🙂
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well, as annoying as some of our experiences have seen to be; overall they seem to draw us together…
and, as always there’s something more annoying to worry about, like someone shooting a bb gun at the house right next to our window last night, twice even, and a few blocks away someone dumped a clip, no sirens even.
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well i didn’t wuss out, i discussed it with her, after the 2nd shot i had to go outside, so i made a quick trip to the ‘deli’ (philly for single beer store, rather expensive), got me a 40, hurricane that is, i waited to get back to the block past the running car parked with the door open, kinda looked at that, and a women came out of the bando (abandoned house) trick/liquor? idk never went in any way that’s 3 doors down, to open it up and take a nice pull as i was looking at the group of 4 or 5 kids standing across the street in front of the other 2 bandos right there, so they kinda milled around and one of them gave something to the tallest one, i guess it was his car he put it in the trunk and they left, the gunshots was like about a half hour later, probably in little park there close by
enchante!
exhibit some decorum, people!
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well as more often than not-ish? and as of late especially she said us too need to chill out, right. there’s a reason for everything
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whee it’s going better with the mother in law than my own mom
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sigh covering fire~ defillade or just suppressive and, as you know that’s ridiculous major violation of the social compact like shooting our dwelling
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not gonna drink tomorrow had a great time today me the wife and i call her mom always
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she was helping remember my dreams getting chased my team is up the ridge radios ok i usually cant remember thats like nightmares right?
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so writing a video game thats all i can come up with anyway
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highlights at 11 hmm lets go with the one where it’s no reason to have drones and ‘invasive surveillance’ and go with that one! ok and pick one story and go with it on an ease of execution tip in general, and hm i aint even gotta say nothin at some point, and its not a ciceronian poetic device actually a quote but better received than a speach sermon, lecture, etc usually
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eh.
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lordie lordie lordie its our anniversary we shall have dinner together! 🙂
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@abagond sorry, i try to show gro jo all respect but he do stray into ad hominem quite easily, i’d say,
and
@gro jo lol my wife laughed at your post history buff nerds she said and again with their not all black and had to go into you and kiwi and solitaire
so anyway… wow so much drama in the ‘east germantown’ neighborhood it’s a good 5 pagers just with facts alone like today, please.
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*pager ie report police contact they asked the black guy for id and well thats not even the opener
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so submitting white privilege it’s like saga noren not laying down on the tracks like her sister, although that’s not strictly intergenerational whatever i gotta write texas state a op ed piece have a nice day
blessed be
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and she bought weed thank god
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‘your grace’
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again, i am most grateful for abagond and the platform and mic here to speak out it is the 5th step, so it’s not really version control over the chapters so to speak but idk wwyd
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omg all this procrastination martinez i have it on screen, wow, it’s something, to not go ad hominem on it wow its something i need to do healing up for a few weeks from surgery im home
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hmmm
equally yoked comes up a lot
it’s so hard but eventually you can just watch them drink and smoke! but not a newport still
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i guess Martin Luther King’s day isn’t something you say ‘happy’.
to me, the political computer programs they had to deal with the VC/NVA issue in vietnam, that is the rand corporation, was brought home, interesting that it pretty much was contemporaneous to cointelpro.
i mean, they took everyone out. so you know, i’m not christian, but i’ve been reading about the NOGE as well, um… i think the original ‘knowledge of self’ islamic writing (commentary or whatever) like is good to read, a very nice piece, but english gematria? really, well i can see this asiatic thing also is dipped in myth, it’s horrible, everyone hitting each other with large old books. i’m a secular humanist, really, there is no populism.
it’s always an agenda that xenophobic ogp thing…
it’s a big ol’ mess, for sure.
sorry bout that?
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working towards an understanding, i came up in 18th st territory so called ‘the gateway of heroin to hollywood’
i can say you su*ck at this stuff, thats how i can put up with it also jesus told me so blessed be
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and why do i say this, well i am doin reasonably well at watching her smoke right now and the guy (corroborated 3x) who stole my tv called me out tonight i am in counseling and no vodka wow like really? blah blah it’s called where the rubber meets the road
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i’m not trying to make this my block, it’s a whole mess, talking about tv, though? really? like step away from the keyboard that is all
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i told her you dont even know what you the lieutenant of
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may you become a power upon the land an that it hurt none
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and i’m not innocent but she do try to overtalk one (i’m from NJ so that’s both of us too), i’m tired, don’t want to be yelled at, i asked for a temporary 6 hour rule, it was denied out of hand but it seems to be sinking in,
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she’s not happy whatever, everyone all day be tellin me ‘you did it to yourself’ most ppl aint built to take that, angle?
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i shouldnt have drank but i went to do a job yes im back at it and she were high as ykw when i come home, talking about some stuff that’s not going out here like that ,and she wants my last sip of beer she’s ready to leave over it, she does not have ‘carfare’ a phillyism for the token and maybe a dollar to get on the bus and across town, jesus h,
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well hopefully i will be a medical marijuana patient soon here in PA and you know that always keeps me on a even keel maybe help with my arthritis and work related repetitive stress injuries
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she says she’s borrowing money to get high tonight and to leave, ‘borrowing carfare’ to leave tomorrow how many times i been said 80% of the time they take they own damn self out of the picture
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she’s looking out the window for the drug dealer that lives downstairs, i mean i guess if i had my old .45 (since confiscated) under my left armpit all the time, ppl still gonna test you, just gotta kinda breathe and i wouldnt say woosa but idk again its coming up again shes not the only one i told i know im not supposed to walk around with notebook, list, blah blah same old ish jesus h like just say f it, it’s the hood? i know there isn’t a whole topic here about that, go deep ppl,
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man what do you do, nobody the church going the slinger the banger they do not care, nor the politician the priest nor the taxman definitely not the cop wow you know, its just your ppl at the end of the day
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omg and never let em see your hand that’s key
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i’m pretty much done with this routine tellin myself i want to go home while in my own bed
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so we have, posted now, a 10 commandments-like list (most of them are still blank) ‘rules to help fix our relationship.’ it was her idea, not a bad one either, whaddaya gonna do
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someone outside yelling come on cool whip like 18-20 times well i just need to stay out of the static and i can make a support nut like a stack and a half and get my license back, then, we move.
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Think i’m lvng. Pretty sure. Its the crack and the lies. But mostly hittin me
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definitely defcon 1 or whatever, i’m not innocent but i stopped putting my hands on her she whipped me with a coffee pot, a usb charger while monologuing on some ‘slave’s revenge’ type speech, and punching, a sheet rock cutter she likes out my tool box it’s an abomination upon the land, i kept breaking the crack pipes she didn’t like that she knows how to chase me out of the house, ‘pretending’ to call 911 etc g2g
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have a nice day 🙂
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now that i think of it i did have to tell her ‘you’re gonna stop’ but it didn’t work she screamed louder and louder daring me to hit her jesus h well orchestrated!
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i got me a medical marijuana hookup, vapes like, i found my mecca, and she damn well can’t afford that crack, it’s partly my fault for showing her how to smoke $1000 worth on a weekend, or all month, once, so… but i’m good, it makes me crazy, the coke, paranoid, and searching through crap and hacking and violating boundaries, true psychosis, and there’s more, she said she’s not gonna be able to quit like that, i am not strong enough to watch like that right now, i’m an addict too, whatever, i’m starting to rebel against it like. i guess i’m going to have to go out when she is getting on, that’s plan a, so that’s my fault i always want to escape, before, when i have money, it’s a personal goal, and should be achievable, eh, we’re talking, we’ve had worse days much much worse
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the hardest lesson to learn it’s not always about blood i guess my kids will have been done learned that one or something i’m going to pretty much pass out now thanks
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i gotta go back tomorrow and redo the pinpad card swiper on bull’s stainless steel i dinged (vide supra se puede), it’s a warranty but the company’s being cool about it.
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well i told my counselor something happened i have an appt i stay in touch
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lordie lordie lordie pants on no hacking and 6 other things i must do just to be wierd jesus h well i need to just stop throwin crumbs and finish my martinez piece and a couple chapters,
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well in my defense nothing could have happened for lack of visualizing the worst possible outcome
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So icm trying. I need to dig deeper towards my hypervigilence etc but i think i know enough to explain and perhaps should do so. And indefenso de martinez
Oi its procrastination also the day job and is it white flight she asked me to get away a long time ago. I could ask for no better than her on a lot of different levels maybe we can find a nice mixed community a little more out to the country. The hood will surely otherwise claim us both.
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i love her, i don’t preach, i have this thing 15 seconds, real quick and i use a ‘praying hands’ gesture, , you know sometimes there is things someone like me can tell a body; ah jesus it’s like im saying dont tell this short con like gaslight or edging towards its hard like well idk this bears introspection post haste and amelioration im trying to say it’s like i think ‘exhibit decorum’ people wow at least i saw my domestic abuse counselor today she burnt me with her glass crack pipe yesterday and hit me sometimes well its ugly but im trying to avoid vide supra the criminality and stuff
but i’m cleared for medical marijuana apparently coke and alcohol shes accusing me of stealing her rock i gave her the weed back ah jesus h mary and joseph with a 3 on the tree
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some things there’s no easy way i did whisper and make sure she heard me at a somewhat dampened volume not loud at all ‘i’m gonna make you stronger’ i mean it too
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🙂
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she asked me, we were at the bar, and i hbefore ad to pour her into a paper bag and take her home, if i was going to be ready when the money is worth nothing, yeah, i think so, pretty sure, the boy scouts done that for me and also living in the park for the summer
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she bit me pretty hard, i like have her dental records on my bicep, who needs a tattoo?
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i have some dissociative thing, the rapes and ppl caint afford the cocaine i guess mostly and doing some county time know what i mean maybe some lurker do, it’s hard, if i was to break out of IT for work, i don’t think a MA in psychology is great, idk i prefer computer security
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i had better than marginal to like fair to middlin success watching her smoke not last night but today you know they often times will know you aint gotta say nothing they often times will however if they aint wanna google gaslight show agape or roll out. out.
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omg i think i’m going to have to leave her after last night, it is so lame in this bs neighborhood and she just smokes and pulled a screwdriver, butcher knife again, screaming out the window like 5 times, help, he’s beating me up, he’s trying to push me out the window, everyone knows she is full of ish, it’s time to leave.
move her into an apartment in a neighborhood where you dont have to light a house on fire before the police show up? yeah right
well thanks everyone it’s time for me to get off line for a while, and get right with some type of thing, and write that martinez piece, she is lost and i’m defeated without recourse except i still have my wits about me, blessed be
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Im like damn that kinda hurts, this morning, she stabbed me with the screwdriver apparently and 2 new bites on my back. Well if this what it takes for me to stop smoking and drinking
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N then she makes breakfast?
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i’m bleeding a little but i got a huge contract today she’s sayin where’s your money at, omg smoking always it’s really distracting and annoying me
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eh. well the rent and phones are paid. noon’es going anywhere, we had a deal to split a deposit to get out of here but we collectively wasted about $4.5k, it seems to be about me acting out somewhat on stimulants and also the paranoia and non-respect of personal boundaries we’re set back some what on trust, ie we’re not blocked but not friended on fb, still both ‘married’ jesus h with a 3 on the tree
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ergo why i um i think she says ‘deserve to get whipped on’ eh well thankfully i have an active relationship with my counselor yet
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so no i have to watch her smoke i did it the other day i can do it, jesus h with a 3 on the tree i need to see my kids
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i think the trick is if we both went out as soon as i get home with money and go food shopping at target or what not
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i can do it but i resort to drinking alcohol i guess its what it takes for me
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i think it’s really over, i owe child support, obviously, she ran out of the room in her bra and panties in the house with like 5 other dudes in rooms, screaming i attacked her, and dialed 911, i swear i didn’t touch her, she was airing our personal sex life and stuff, real embarrassing, especially when the coke is involved, she smashed my phone, and pulled a knife on me, saying she’s pressing charges, mocking me in front of one of the dude’s brother who crashes on the couch all the time, saying i’m a crackhead etc but she wants to do nothing but leech coke money off of someone, and so i’m leaving out she’s yelling “anyone want to buy some tools”, so manipulative in a ‘state-sanctioned’ sense ie using the police as a tool against me, well they sure didn’t turn up in the 45 minutes it took for me to get my gear together, well i don’t know what to do i guess i’m free, and no it’s not a black thing, it’s about people who got leveled up in terms of the amount of coke they were granted access to and couldn’t participate in financial terms and it all turned to crap, she is a miserable person and is lost and turned herself out, i just said good luck with that as i left, so whatever, the warrant squad has had my paperwork for like 5 months, obviously it’s not a priority, again, in the neighborhood where you have to light the house on fire to get the cops to come, it’s a damn shame, but well i’m free, huh imagine that, and if the girl says ‘let’s get a hit,’ RUN! herneith been right the whole time, and she has a herpes outbreak on her mouth, now it’s good she hasn’t been kissing me or having sex, i still never had one, jesus h, she’s i guess so at prey, been preyed upon so much i was just the path of least resistance for her stored abuse to flow out,
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i’ll be alright, and thanks for letting me find my way here, i got a headache and i need to go to the phone store, she did something to the ‘family’ account where it’s ‘high security’ obviously i need to turn her phone off well, to be continued! i will never give up
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i originally felt ambiguous but she orchestrated the manipulation so well i saw but i didnt see because i didnt want to
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oh it should be something you can leave at home a little droid like in star wars that can do all manner of sensing and reporting real time it could have lasers too like a personal guardian angel raspberry i dont think so the only crowley quote i can relate to is ‘if there be no joy in what thou doest let there be subtlety within’
wow im tempted to explain
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her schizophrenia my counslr pitied me for a minute over that she is like in a blackout and wakes up another person so it is fractured )i(it happened to me after about 12 heinekens at the bar one night ) personality/id/identiy/person{x} due to ptsd hardcore shit its bad what happened to her as a child and as an adult and well thats something for another day peace out blessed be
-tc
jesus h oh my god this muslim cat was lie ‘h my god what he got to do with it’ so i reminded him ‘that’s not particularly helpful either sir’ and so i had to go to 3 phone stores like i have nothing to prove, the best impact she had was well a couple she is like a mid con but its running shorter
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like a heroin prostitute her mom is as well christ if you wanna carry 4000 around and sell ounces go ahead because people die over that crap its ridiculous my own self impact is why would i give it to my wife who already coughs every 3-5 minutes
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also calling the police on someone for no charges, she left before they arrived i’m told, no note was in evidence, so thats an improvement personally speaking and i’m not turnt out on the street shes also technically homeless right now or ita setup its like the google told me things see the things the path its always there but fighting and crap? its lame she just had her back turned to me on the bed she couldnt save one dollar rright now shes shot out sorry
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she did always go deep due to her own DBR status? so she never let me ignore anything
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so loud and obnoxious and lies all the time!
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the bulls out there are laughing but i need to park a car legally out front so now i can go wheels up too sweet
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yo back home in sw well its going that direction with her gone i got a need for about 4 stacks let me go now may you find your path as well
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well i cant find my pof style requirments list i think having a job needs to go over there and also doesnt smoke crack but maybe is in recovery or at least you know like once a year or something sheesh
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yeah jesus, its a lot to leaern there ao it atermed a sacrifice but wasnt it like a negative event in re the progression of peace on earth
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was that tianamen square cat a christian i wonder its like that nowadays i think similar then
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no her highest impact angle was you wont fight a man you want to beat on a woman but i did stop hitting my wife and now it’s #54 i met this real life black woman in baltimore i dont want to be stalkerish oh lord goddess of luck guide my hand i thinjk they call that pagan jesus mmm mmm mmm h
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and the takeaway is i dont have her name tattooed on me!!!
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just on the alpha my mommy yold me the dating sites its not riiiight stil my daughter
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hi sorry flappy but on the alpha tip on the strength of me? make em jealous of course it would not be worse looking and get a new car then will hate and well everything happ[ens for a reason
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ny counselor yes she is a white woman from ‘the county’ ie not in town she basically independently concurred or corroborated? i was the path of least resistance for her stored abuse to flow she actually used the term ‘vessel’ well she went to school for the head shrinker crap and also a smart person whattayagonnado
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it stops with me mm mmm mmmm
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i’m kinda sad today, she called a couple times and hung up but finally was able to tell me ‘you ruined us’ and hang up, she sound sad too oh well i’m not exactly in a rush for a rebound or whatever i just want to kind of recharge and rebalance chemically and financially for starters
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wow i cannot cook either i burnt the crap out of my hand last night, sheesh, but if i can learn that, huh,
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on the other hand, this relationship in particular has inculcated the strong love for mondays in me, so i can go back to work, strange but true, i love mondays, it’s coming soon! gets my mind off everything if i can conentrate, an im not so shot out, i’m actually sober and ok today, just a little maudlin, peace out!!!
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yeah, it’s over, i have such a stockpile of hostile circumstance and intent and words spoken to me, even, it’s a real thing, her cycle is like 6-7 months for a drunken fight/speaking so harshly as to be unable to have been ignored? speaking words? so this guy who stole my tv he has invaded the philadelphia housing authority house next door and came running up to me on my porch omg i cant sit in my room with this little 3.5′ steall pipe i have i like the stick you see i called his boss i was just going next dorr the girl owes money omg im feeling a range of negative emotions apparently a street fight is not necessary jessus h its time to move or what make a bilarteral grassroots committe to what? elect a ward member please its a joke
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so they came through the house next door the first time when it was unoccupied across the rooftops took 2 tvs out this house i am really not feelin this, the landlord is calling me due to the residual from dearst leah and well its just i guess one in the tie column oh well i will need to get over this feeling to approaceh other women sensibly my cousnelor recommended the bar i do not think alcohol is well advised at all
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please. the ppl that live here, the civilians hunker down and keep it movin, not tryin to be on a white savior trip or anything i have no beefs right around here so i just need to put my stuff in storage and go back on the airplanes and the highways!!! so much easier and more fun better food too, meeting ppl with jobs even
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im havin a panic attack!!!
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thank god a cpl ppl gave me weed and newports have a blessed day out
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Sorry bout that? It sounds crazy but i wouldnt lie here, it hurts, and i aint got noone to call.
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Oh lord she called me and damn if i didnt say i didnt change the lock yet wth is wrong with me … Careful what u wish for well this is like the 7th time its been like this roughly speaking jesus h i better make sure about this i was about to change my # and everything
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well she’s staying at her mommy’s house, who does have significant clean time, and she’s calling me, well if we can just get our ish together, it raises the chance of success greatly, takes all that dating pressure off, i won’t have a panic attack, and maybe she’ll see me this weekend, intermediate vector plotted, is that sad? not really considering what was happening just one week ago today and i still love her so whatever, man, it works for me for the time being, and time will tell
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to me, the mere concept that this could be done properly is overwhelming,
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ok so the 4 blisters on my hand from trying to reheat lasagna and also a 2 liter bottle of pepsi exploded on me it was frozen of course well she called me this morning its something real i just cant say words too slow
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well she didnt come over this weekend but she called me today it was enough to hear her say she loves me and damn if i didnt tell her id wait for her, she misses me too, its all good, also the crack house next door got shut down by the housing authority today wow i couldnt believe it
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she did make an impassioned plea furthering her argument its not my cocain psychosis nor alcohol ‘retardedness’ since that is temporarily in play due to the other thread {implying perhaps} its’ my stored trauma seeking a path of least resistance to her vessel or whatnot. huh.
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idk i am a non conviccted hacker so idk i hope its not like whatever takes the whole block to get to the bar sheesh well idk i have a cpl bucks and the rent
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like also since i been in philly its like rooming houses the front door in like a really bad neighborhood? its like nevere even locked usually this latest one is pretty low wow man egt
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i wrote door must be locked at all times on it but well never mind
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omg the amount of bs i reported to the govt that i found when i was all about the life made up for it someone looked me up aparently im legit
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the hackers took over an island’s internet they mined bat guano or something i think it was technically japanese or something and well never mind
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real quick 15 seconds if they think then dont forget! cause i just did
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oh lord i feel bad i yelled at the burger king cashier and well i code shifted to the male shift lead it made me check myself i gave the shift lead some advice i feel bad i yelled at the girl well it got wierd my wife was gone my nose was open sheesh well the ring did call me like gollum again its on not hers have a great day
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um yeah everyone in the restaurant was black but not me
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besides the precinct she filed a complaint with fb too idk maybe yea
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she just called me she was trying not to yell she did good you know its real
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i proposed a 2 week spousal vacation, per year, just you know, no other ppl whatsoever, just a break?
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the ring done called me like gollum again frodo didnt wear it she asked after hers maybe a cpl days she come get it she said so
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wait didnt frodo go invisible just once
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im going out its been so long im bringing my writing notbook not the schedule, whatever, did i leae anything out? she be playin all coy or whatever on the phone i can understand it got ugly and the cops came but jesus i guess its like far beyond normal? i just need to go out i have no $$$ but can get anywhaere with my bus pass yay its saturday too oh well i am tempted to drink but no i got some weed that’s what i shall do roll up and roll out peace out blessed be everyone you guys are great, here, for real 🙂
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im not hungry an i have clean clothes and i have a fresh haircut and shave and some little bit smell good ok alrighty then,
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know what i feel like going to a spoken word open mic and i got black skin white masks its heavy starts right off in that free for association apparently my counsoelor has informed that is the basis of freudian psychotherapy too heavy for me right now, sorry, need to be irl!!!
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some rich person was donating some books i got dibs some nice stuff anyway ciao
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she says she’s at her mommies feelin like a little kid well i cant have this all goin on inside an apartment building sheesh i hope we can chill!!!
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i seen the dr and my counselor too, i’m pain and narcotic freee and also got a comphrensive std test again, including herpes lol i guess it was time she said it’s over 50% in philadelphia
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jesus h
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well she’s been calling me all day i guess im a little nervouse but when you split for a couple/few weeks, it’s always a little wierd but it sort of brings it back too like well when we first met it was crazy not tryin to go back to that lifestyle we are having a ‘talk about our relationship’ so whatever i been wearing the ring and she was asking me about the welfare office im getting us both a bus pass and well there is some food we can make my burns are healed pretty much now from last time i tried to cook
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tomorrow i guess? she is probably going to be here well it will be nice i havent drank in 3 days so there’s that
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she says she’s on her way, and her mommy searched her bags when she went out to the store for a minute, and she’s claiming her mommy said ‘you may as well move out if you’re going to see that tom’ so i could just tell her i’m ready, i am have some super strong coffee in me and well a little nervous perspiration but she said she’s coming home now so … that’s here btw ah jesus
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My baby done come home
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So far so good. We’re both grateful.
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apparently there’s a corresponding component to my ‘batterer’s intervention program’ a survivor thingie at my place obviously not in the same building my counselor suggested she go i guess we’re both relenting? caving is for beta catfish, idk it’s different and better
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Well i dont have any diseases including herpes 1 or 2 which is literally a miracle.
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i do i do listen my voice is all high she said the other day it’s about interrupting her, my opinion it’s a loud nj guy vs her philly style she is commanding me to look at her timeline now well i need to write a book, sheesh martinez first that’s going up then intergenerational responsibility of white americans even not involved by blood in the triangle trade she’s saying i don’t respect her wow g2g thx blessed be
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So ‘beta’ is a perjorative and logical construct outside of pua. It’s when you know things are going south with the convo.
So we talk about overtalking, that’s why i didn’t like church or court didnt matter what you say even if you could.
And demons it puts a pin in something like a bsd v daemon it’s a namshub or whatever so you know shes on team j and of course i know a thing or two
Im supposed to learn what is root like a hog die like a pig
I guess the rooting part threw me off whatever
Also i dont think and pretty sure she dont think a hyperwhite environment like rural ohio would treat us bettet than the hood but most cops around here are not from here iks this thing with spatial reconstruction or whatever i mean philly eg is a black town i think memphis or something i heard so some of thst? Is obviated as i love to say
idk its like i saide sometimes it is spiritual warfare but not always
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we have bedbugs too they suck it’s a 2pc meal dark and white meat
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Lol itskinda like the quad the tv show the white qb at the hbcu she was going on about the backstory but i drew an analogy? Simulacrum or whatever two rotations or 3
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Today its good. To be home with the little missus not playing hookey broke or trippin
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Yay its 420 tmrw we hv to go out and in philly? It’s center city? Not the city centre.
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and now? she’s bouncing leaving me to deal with the bedbugs and the landlord, i don’t know which is worse, the slumlord or a giant bloated bug four times the size of a full tick full of rotten blood
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time to find my floor sander im afraid to pull up these rugs
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ah, when she says i don’t mean you no harm and then slaps you in the face, it’s my birthday too! well
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i think chapter 1 idk yet i think the gangs was to the level of or not sure if it was more than the rapes
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definitely the leader i can see from here is i just dont remember if someone told me or i figured out for myself its not right to walk around with a list of names an a gun its true
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well we’re moving, she’s one step ahead like any woman usually is, and her sister’s taking her in for a minute, sheesh, the bull who took my tv started saying he tricked my wife i told him i would shoot him in the ass with a .25 but his friend sucker punched me, i’m ok. then, she beat me mercilessly like with the belt buckle wound around her hand jesus h well it’s on good terms, rings on, pants on no hacking yay i’m packing, got a truck ride brewing and also this cat that knockd like 12 holes in the walls here then movd back to atl is back on the 3rd floor and its tmie to go he was in one other house and the cat on the 2nd floor is total mental health case like 302 time his room is like a animal’s cav wow bye thanks for listening
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no real rap, 3 months in minimum security was lookin pretty good, i packd my ish up and found a car apparently i dont have a warrant hre, so good news? what’s the takaway i get a payment plan on my last two traffic tickets and get my resticted alcohol ingnition interlock license, thats fine i need that thing so its easy to see a bar and pull over.
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Well the room is shut down each one i give a little name like LP0. This one was forward base alpha. Anyway. As usual its a mixed bag of emotions but my jaw is such that maybe in a few days i can eat a sandwich easily (from the street fight) and well she didnt cut me bad but did stab me 10 times with my scissors and my screwdriver. FB deleted my rant over that one go figure. Anyway. Time do tell.
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Well we spoke today, i found a ‘sober living house’ and she got turned out of her sister house, ugh its a mess, but she says she doesn’t feel like killing me any more. And she loves me. Hmm. Love is a harsh mistress. Personally i dont want to get stabbed or dismembered while sleeping or get put out of a nice place which i can clearly afford without our habits dragging us down, whatever, man. I got me a safe place. That’s an improvement over the last 4 years.
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day 8 sober for me, actually it’s amazing how much clearer my mind is, like, wow, man!
so I’m in a ‘sober house’ and she’s staying with her mommy, it’s ok, we had a great date yesterday, and on saturday we’re going to a hotel hmm
anyway,
what i find singular about our relationship, also, we are both hood fabulous, like we were never introduced? just knew who each other were and met up in a point of time that will never be again
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My qotd: ‘i love you unconditionally, but if you do the right thing it will be magic.’
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Well we’ve pretty much totally reconciled. We had a great time yesterday, she’s at her mom’s and it’s day 14? clean for me. But i’m in south phily, omg these white cats in the sober house are totally free with the n-word and really seem to exhibit hate just as freely. With the royal wedding, and the choir and preacher, i try to speak up but it’s like they’re not gonna change, wow. I don’t know how to deal with it quite yet.
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I mean somebody calling me turkey wing or whatever, who cares. But ‘i hate this part of the royal wedding’ etc etc. jesus h. It’s way more tolerant of a white in the black neighborhood than vice versa, it’s totally obvious.
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Well it’s ugly and ignorant and not even 6 am on a sunday, i had to go with ‘how bout you keep that ish to yourself.
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Doing better than ever!
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60 days clean! Happy july 4th?
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time to go home
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ugh. started writing idk wwhy it been scarin the ish out of me. the public 5th step. im told its ok to invoke prurient interest. for money? ugh my family will actually i have a feeling there will be some negative back channel chatter. also the 4th step its about what’s bothering you.
sheesh what would you do she doesnt like that.
she’s here we’re home
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stay tuned!
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@abagond she is continuously saying lately you are white or an ‘uncle tom’ sorry bout that i dont think so
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lol bull at the papi store said it’s “dias de pavo”
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grumble anyway, it’s interesting in that i can say ‘that’s an abagond moment’ to my wife, it’s been maybe 2 lately, the first of which having been going into the black woman hair store after we smoked this weed which was so strong it was ridiculous, and then of course, we’re down here towards dc, some little old white lady coming out of her hotel room saw my wife and thanked her, as we disected the event, considering her to have been the ‘help’ as the room cleaner (a different non-white woman) had just left the white woman’s room just a little bit earlier,
and well we were getting breakfast this morning and the definitely spanish native speaker just said ‘oh my goodness’ in considering the totallity of me and her just sitting there, it was most singular, and a person i’ve known since like 2008 really just showed his racist stripes, and him and my wife hate each other obviously i’m still with her anyway,
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she helped me hack the x wife profile, my boys are all fat and the girl her teeth are all fucked up she’s only 10, i feel like a total failure, well i guess i will have one in the ‘w’ column for now? who knows, man.
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lol wow lots of things going on, the holidays etc.
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A new one, ‘no cookie’. It’s pretty intense, it’s up to me to get us a house and a couple cars, it’s kinda white flight? Idk we both have vicious substance issues, i’m going to iop or something,for my license, jesus my oldest will be 16 this year he needs a car too jesus h with a three on the tree.
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she’s the only one
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Always ask why and make sure you have carfare and cigarettes!
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hm, and there’s always things like ‘you look at me like i’m the plague sometimes, like i’m all the white man’s… like i’m plymouth rock’
‘oh well i’ve been treated better by a lot of black men that were broke, you make a lot more than them, so i expected more, even the drug dealers…’
jesus h, well it’s time to get a car etc, i am going back into the outpatient and well gd’it i’m used to having a house and 5 cars or whatever if i dont learn why the f i’m getting high it’s really useless in terms of therapy etc, and to propagate some sort of non-nihilism! anyway… yeah i made $17000 from october to january she just maintains complete innocence or perhaps her only tip of the hat to an alpha role? if ya don’t get it, well sorry bout that, it’s um, a ‘sticky wicket?’
the neighbors are not pleased either or our families
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on the other hand, i was thinking this and tha tlast post came out, i wasn’t sure how to segue into i was in the hospital last night? and fox news was on while i was waiting and they made this whole sort of ‘meta-segment’ on how ‘skin color’ ‘skin color’ isn’t a defining sort of aspect or diviseness, so disingenuous obliterating the non-white experience in america, it’s really f*in sad
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http://www.fox9.com/news/study-students-benefit-from-having-teachers-of-same-race-in-early-education
this one, they were ‘discussing’, total ‘horse hockey’ as an old boss of mine used to say occassionally
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basically back to tryin to watch her smoke, it’s the only way i can put up with her scatterbrain gaslighting routine thank god i don’t pick up a 40 oz of hurricane every time i have $3 no more, well the medical weed vape thingie do keep it on the beam, need to get my paperwork for that, i guess it can wait for the drug school, it’s required for my license and i can refresh my drug tests at work and it will help with the family court,
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ooh lord i’m glad i didn’t jump off the front patio today, it’s raised from the sidewalk a couple feet like, i had just come outside and was smoking a cigarette and waiting for the wife, because some young kid had his off road dirtbike pointed the wrong way on our one-way street so he does a donut on the sidewalk to take off and then a patrolman ran past tazer so bright and his buddy was driving a patrol car, they’re not supposed to chase the kids on their dirtbikes with no plates helmets or even long pants on, sheesh
cuffing season is over!!!
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ah lord its not goin good, got in a fight with young buck upstairs in our rooming house i had to stop her from stabbing him twice previously, i guess he was losing, hell if i know, he ran upstaira grabbed a knife and slashed my face neck and arm 22 stitches jesus i was leaking like bloodbath is a real thing, so i am in a program now, medical even. she wants to go out like she was single ima bout to pack me a bugout bag, tbc…
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i had a knife in my pocket i got it at the tractor supply store it was there it went through the cops and the hospital took it i git it back
wow you know we have so many domestic incidents between me and the old lady it is typically no less than 3-5 cop cars now, and well it was a lot of them this time and they were standing around like 10-12 (flashback to LA), and one took point a 50ish 61 ish like white dude and he had his flashlight in my eyes and blood is litterly flowing out into a puddle commanding me to get down finally a whiteshirt showed up i guess water meets its level does anyone read this stuff? any way
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i told him fu absolutely not i am the victim his hand only twitched once to the gun not the taser the whole block was watching jesus h with a 3 on the tree
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lord, we’re barely holdin on but its been way worse!
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she did not like the ‘lords of chaos’ movie, either!
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always insist on saturday night!
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ah damn so i just got out of rehab? for the medically advisable minimum! and i can get my driver’s license back because i had therapy and also i have ptsd and um neuropathy due to the used to call it ‘repetitive strain disorder’ i think it’s mostly holding the damn phone to my neck while drilling? for over a decade in all types of weather; so ,the MMJ card is a lock in jesus h wow man i told her another thing not the main one that makes me love you is like we don’t even need to say anything sometimes
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i got hurt a ways back also i think it was a 26′ 2×10 it won
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lordie lordie lordie she’s getting woke, as jim morrisson said she done ‘canceled her subscription to the resurrection,’ effective postdated even, and no more black israelites her brother is a moorish american, so here we go with the whole person thing, she’s quite passionate and effected by it, the early stages, so it’s like yelling at oh 0540 ‘just treat everone as an individual!’
also, ‘you’re not supposed to teach me about black history’
no ‘all y’all’s’ like that i said and also i was told black leaders are supposed to tell you about that stuff
‘and i’m supposed to teach the (no longer) white people to not be effin racists!’
stuff like that
also like the fun neighborhood stuff! jesus it’s not even summer ppl b trippin
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its funny she was trying to school me on nuit, i found that aspect to evoke some hope
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just like what someone ele eats, going to rehab dont really help your wifes crack habit and im tired of getting hit because she us a noncontributory memebe and doesnt loike hearing about other ppls feeling and now she threatened my kids and broke my glasses among other thing
out for a while. peace
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no glassea again a whole of cops came she was hurting me when told to be quiet and stop lying and smoking crack the black man cop talked to me i rold hime my mommy told me nit to kill her they said have a good evening i well its a whole chapter
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still no glasses sorry the data must flow it happened in california first idl of it was an angel or a person it told me to throw away my notebook the names it was eed the gangs were mucj worse its like stockholm survivor syndrome im back as i notified her i mad 600 in the last 23 hrs she was exponuding some emotional dissatisfaction like i get sentenced in court for 90 and still my company luves i have some ppl too sheesh i wint call anybody white how bout that
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take it from experience in philly the white cop is going to approach u 1st like a red shirt oh and by the way? shanrwua martin green or like that wow ijs so im like this fin guy is tellin me aint u got somrwhere to go etc eviction nlah blah im like f no foh and i quote so shes allowed tosmoke crack and yell at me and hit me on the head with an ashtray and a coline gottle i can usually repel the first eavr or bend if driving? a little not no.more berbally? go in parade rest too it could you know desecalte a little ijs
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i got my car fare and 1 cugarette im packed too
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weeeeel guess who jyst out of jail agaim not to go into racial crime stats but a whitish black guy did you notice pne’s spelling doesn’t change it shoild nepinkish amd browmish how bout one on that @abagond just hit me in the back with a smoothie on my way frpm property, i didn’t even use fb yet well the app crashed i all fairness… the slushie/smoothie (it was not from 711) was fin pink oh my god i guess he really didn’t want to fight leah on the other hand ok ima take a breath done a lot writing too amazin what a difference not even 30 days make… lots to tell dont miss out i might even use punctuation
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well it was the water storm last week made the shelters like overfull im goin to classification today plus its lawyers involved ima hv to go’undergound’ for a minute but im going to hopefully (?) put a ‘security protected” blog i hope on wordpress bc i dont want to learn html lile tjat everor ajax so.. it wont be fb live were moving soon just like ‘court’ well u lno wut id say wait for it.
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guess who called me today, as if. she’s blocked for now…
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ah jesus im still married we sre at the legal aid for tenants
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omg she got 2 F2 charges and a wobbler and simple assault on a street car while i was locked up holy ish she lookin at state time
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@Abagond:
Perhaps you should rename this section ‘The trials and Tribulations of V8Driver’. LOL!
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that would be redundant…
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v8driver
“that would be redundant…”
Redundant what?
That v8driver has been for long in “The trials and Tribulations“?
Or rather that v8driver is living an “interracial relationship“?
Or…
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@munubantu both, obviously
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well im going to go home monday after my court date but ima ask my (trans?) counselour here at rhe shelter for 2 night passes monday tues. to make sure we’re both comfortable with me coming home at least our cat is doing ok before i check out it took me all week to get a spot here and its a 30 day cooldown
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wow shea butter is great, even for sunburn, what white person knew?
and @herneith this is my miniblog remember xpraetorious and someone else got one right around the same time, 2016ish?
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so we met up at her lawyer’s place, she_s a pleasure to be around until she starts drinking but of course it’s my lack of recall (extremely convoluted gaslight).
she made dinner it was great i got continued
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always ask for a supervisor!
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It’s not going good… She told me the cops were gonna let me go last time but she started crying on cue… But it’s just really like touch n go, i am not gonna kiss her ass,
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Yeah well, then she calls me and tells me to come home…
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goddamn if i can remember now but i was really sincere, like the righteousness of conviction i figured out and told her one of the top 3 things that makes me love her
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aaaand… she’s back to ‘god in the name of jesus,’ kinda thought that would be the case! I was thinking the other day, even though the goddess of luck has given me signs when I was most down and out and bugging, i always say ‘oh my god’ etc, and I do not consider myself a pagan, and then, in true 93ish fashion, the duality must be reconciled, so there seems to be a higher order, the classical ‘creator’, or just a dice roll, so that whole over complicated nonsense is defeating the purpose of trying to get/stay sober,
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Wow i have literally 4 consecutive court dates next week: victim, occupant, defendant, moral support not in exact order talk about lit up like a tree in jeremiah sheesh
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Weeeelll all the charges againt the guy who cut my face off are dropped, i guess i threatened him, on video; the wife’s offer is 11-23 mo’s, huh well tenant court is in sep., i go back for the domestic on thurs, what a shitty week!
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Well my charges were dropped and i’m back home – until tenant court which is not about us paying rent! She just said, “you better be there for me, no matter what!” That much is obvious! (Not what i said)
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Eh, i need this child support thing off my neck, and she doesnt purport to view this whole smoking routine the same as me, it’s getting ridiculous, hmmm…. I didnt go to jail and rehab and this stupid outpatient thing, to be stuck bankrolling some bs all nite long….
And in counseling, my main counselor basically accused me of complicity/hastening/major contributing factor to vickie dying, since we used (very small amt) the night she died; then the counselor left the next day, yay more flashbacks, dale dale
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‘Left’ as in no longer with the company, technically speaking, vickie took my atm card to the bar the night she died, that much got back to me, that she was seen doing that or ‘a card,’ so i guess i passed a ‘legal responsibility’ test in some type of way in that it was her initiative, jesus h
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Her mommy told me she loves me and i responded the same. The both of us with this one i cant even say that bc thats what daenarys would say or the unsullied well idk i have to craft a compelling case to nj for a non custodial event horizon
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Well i guess it’s step 4.5 idk blakksage was getting on about that french guy and also im not sure to put myself on blast with the whole e ticket ride she says you may as well sell your ass its the same thing and my kids
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Ie my children would probably endure significant exposure to um potentially negative feedback?
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She’s flailing absolutely out of her mind smoking everyday it’s not gonna be long now.
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She hit me again and was about to whip my with my belt it’s gonna be a restraining order.
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It doesn’t matter if you’re 25 or 50; some women DO get taken care of and sit around and do nothing.
Not with a pipe in your mouth.
So she agrees to take smoking as a top priority, it’s her birthday coming up too,
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And i have explicitly and programmatically learned and profess and continue so that i do not go in the bar.
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Me and the mother in law had been doin so well too horns locked
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The most common interracial marriage is 15.7% White woman, Black man. The first three are the most common interethnic marriages. https://timmieblaze.wordpress.com/2019/06/15/the-difference-between-interracial-and-interethnic-marriage/
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And… She stumbles right out of the gate, she’s going to go down with that stem in her mouth, it’s all i can do to save myself at this point.
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I’m the son in law today
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Landlord/tenant court today, that and child support, and pay a couple fines? I’ll be good.
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She’s in custody for aggrevated assault on me, she broke the ashtray on my head this time. I got hit by a car (only about 20 mph) today too, must be some planets lined up or something
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Her mommy and 2 police came over to let her get her laptop and some clothes, it’s a damn shame i hopes she can get better in the head
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One thing i thought up? A mental health safeword? To go across the personalities it might be planting a flag, “you’re late” i just keep saying it at certain times so she can remember and not gaslight? It’s f*d up
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Lol our cousin said mr tom please take that gin right there last night sorry? Not. Ah jesus im have to see her tonight i am staying outside and hopefully brief, household new business.
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Maybe it’s codependence, aka having a need for someone specific,
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i have skipped a couple posts; i really know agape pretty well — it’s amazin how you can just pick a greek word like thelema or agape to define yourself! again, did jesus suicide? pretty much. pretty sure that’s a mortal sin. sabacthani, not a good evidence of self-love, kinda a tautology?
back on planet earth…. well in the commonwealth of pennsylvania, it’s the preliminary hearing, her’s from me was today, i ran about 3-4 hours late at work all day as it was, so anyway her beatdown on the trolley trial comes up weds., she’s being nice now, ah jesus we both nervous
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suicide and deicide or at least 33% thereof
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i fail to see the intrinsic altruism in this conundrum/story other than to make a soldier or citizen sacrifice themselves for god, king, country, what have you, it’s not pretty if you peel back the edges, sorry bout that ie jesus, or god killed a god, there you go, that beats the OT
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Today idk it was the muse, i told her we have to forgive ourselves, jesus didnt talk about that. But it’s true
flashback to group counseling
I can just be so overwhelmingly rude now i have learned many levels.
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Today idk it was the muse, i told her we have to forgive ourselves, jesus didnt talk about that. But it’s true
flashback to group counseling
I can just be so overwhelmingly rude now i have learned many levels.
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So she says, ‘all that stuff thatvhappened to you in the past? I don’t need to know everything!’
Progress is slow, but there.
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her mommy wanted to know why, you know, i put her in jail, i told her on a text i couldn’t let her kill me i mean jesus you have to sleep next to someone some time (soonest)
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idk if it’s valuable ethnographically, psychologically, or morally; but, i noticed my long down hill slide was really pretty much when vickie died, that pretty much was like wow man, that’s too much! my homelessness,and massiive drug abuse and idiotic amounts of alchol and the anger… sheesh
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my waaay back homie is a professor at etsu, of communications, he really demands an ethnography — as a recovery tool, it;s the 4th and 5th steps (weighted towards the 5th) — mine would be an ethnopornography, again, i mean ah jesus
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anyway… say it like yer from joisey!
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so what does agape say from what happened in the NT specifically, jesus says ok, if someone’s there, and they’re suffering, help/feed/heal them? and yourself, well if she asks you if you don’t love yourself how can you love me well it’s a wide field to explore with jesus’ chronicled adventures even without chapter and verse numbers, #ijs
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wide open for why are you with me right thur
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that does go from # if ya have to ask to something else, just another #friday
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yeah i got high last night but i found us a place back to the straight hood north philly again moving tues now im looking for my divorce papers, also onmy fb i mentioned i am an ordained minister its kind xian backing but it is a unique name the CoG church of the goddess, also wow man, it’s hard being free i have to back to church thelesis another greek word and also the sex meetings i told her and u?
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I think i broke up with her, i still never had a day of fun in my whole life, and im tired of hating myself. Ciao!
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Any questions? Vide supra. And for the record, know what, i aint even gotta say nothin. And thats the truth.
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And then i talk to her jesus its been 6 yrs now, hard to quit, whatever, im just trying to keep my head on straight. Goddam holidays too. It never ends.
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our family is fuckin obliterated like express elevator right to hell remember the MUDs
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just telling my mom you and her momma is the same just black and white we both deaf so also we are a loud people
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So im going home she said ok then u ring off or watever gang up ie storm out the door first hey keep the rubber side down its america day soon
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And then i see her
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ugh she at her mom house i’m in west philly it’s a safe neighborhood no chicks no pets, her mom called me yesterday, i’m searching but pretty sure that’s unprecedented pretty sure, i have to save $$$ and get her out of her mommy house or it’s gonna blow up, i knew i had 2 weeks so anyway i have $$$ she says dont get mad at her for the past shit, i explain to the ones who will comment, it’s difficult or something like that, the women will go into it but they dont even know her like i do
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so supposedly she found a place for herself and the cat, at the end of the month, so since we’re finally dating after 6 years of marriage this kinda really represents her exegesis? From her mommy crib and me from reading pa and all that and we’ll be doing your place or mine, we were talking the phone today, and for me i just listened to her she’s right on point with my vision, she said, ‘oh my god something’s telling us to go back and do it right!’ Well that was a refreshing moment and a top 3 epiphany for me personally, scary seeing what you want within reach, or is that just me.
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And it turned into come get the cat she’s kickin me out ugh
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it wouldn’t be drama if you couldn’t tune into the next episode!
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So we’re having it out a little bit, drinking slightly, hmm. Well i hv the cat too
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it was a whole thing we were recapping? as i would say in um 5th grade class ie a book report i could skip whole chapters
wow so rude like and cheap i told her more than a jew or a scot!
i had the slapping her once yes i did 24 days in county over it nolo contendere
and she hit me with my glass ashtray (large 10×4″ oval)
she said also my face yes but my beard is comin in nice
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but it is significant things like really she wow and idk im going out she doesnt like crowds
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the fast talking gaslight it is understandlably inconvenient to have been reminded
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idk she coulda been a lawyer and me some type of miller from the expanse
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happy New year she is prideful
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When theyre high and they say dont go into some old ish is the best time to reiterate you forgive them and eventually that you got them back in their own special way but she is just not really good with intimacy i basically am jumping out of my skin these days wow i got a new counselor
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she split last night yelling in the street about her $1 crack pipe, her mom called to tell me she’s fired, i’m done!
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In other news, i have encountered someone that piqued my interest, not sure yet, want to stabilize and groom up, catch up with the landlord etc 1st.
Also: the movie ‘black and blue?’ It’s pretty intense, i mean the action? Eh. But the themes and what i run parallel to as subtext, it really affected me, i”m only half way through it yet.
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huh. anyway so, i’m coming home on the bus, saturday after dinner, this guy he seemed unnoticable, he sees a muslim cat with the kufi on talkin about his koran, and so i get up at my stop, and it’s almost at the end of the line, as an aside, he says, i love me some skinheads or whatnot, like i’m comin off a 6 year run as we all know, i had to say like 5 or 6 times why are you talking to me like that and he goes on with it, at this point, people are listening, there’s 30 ppl on the bus, and the driver got a white shave head like me, i’m sober so, ok, i’m just why would you lead with that, he’s not listeneing seems like pharma not alcohol on his part, i am just like that’s not me, that’s not my people why would you say that, and he goes on about the mummers parade, he’s saying a whole legion in his own way of the kkk marching, it was actually one white dude went in black face supposedly to ‘honor’ the flyers,he got kicked out of the parade, so i’m like i read about that in the ‘paper’ it was online but sometimes, and i was not there, he said if he was there with a machine gun he would have killed the whole ‘lot’ of them, i said the cops would be white too, he laughed and said he was kidding i said no you arent’ but i was able to exit the vehicle at that point thankfully wow
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Guess who came back. She promised to address all my concerns when we’re sober, idk, i
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No chicks, no pets, it’s just one of each sir! At least the cat is authorized. So far so … not sure what, still didnt have our talk
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I spoke at a black Baptist church today, it was a community event organized by the people who bailed me out of jail last time? the 24 days? over $250 for some misdemeanors that all got dropped? Wow, I was nervous. There were some white people there, techies and the liberal organizers, and me. Several council members were there, the DA for philly, and some state reps and a state senator. Only 2 cops in view, they were white also.
So then this guy starts chanting, what does democracy look like, and already my pulse is about 99 and it never goes that high in almost all cases, and the whole call and response thing wow, he really pulled everyone together. I’m not a stand up and clap kinda guy, maybe you could have sensed that?
It was hard at first, the crowd was very understanding, I kinda liked it, I did get the ‘wrap it up’ sign flashed at me, minor drift, wow, it was fb live streamed, looking for an archive…
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it was very empowering and my story was bs compared to everyone else, it was 7 of us, #endcashbail I think I’m supposed to say?
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Interesting article. I’ve always noticed this trend and wondered at the motives behind them. Well, not really, I know why.
https://herneith.d.pr/H5OWXx
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Sad to read of the end of your marriage. Who gets custody of the weed?
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I’ve been telling him to get rid of this broad for a donkey’s age, doesn’t listen, keeps going back.
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She came back, in spite of my express stated wish to not be that roughneck couple that fights and gets back together again, so it is. I can’t even find the words any more
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Weeel now the illegal cash only landlord decided the chick was too much. Enchante. And why i take her back, i want to say the devil you know.
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Abagond, shouldn’t there be a limit on how much this v8driver character posts? This thread has tanked. Like someone upthread said, this should be renamed ‘the diary of v8driver’, except I don’t think anyone cares. Just..make..it..stop..!!!!
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@ merrimay
I will repost it, maybe update it too.
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So the electric co. Turned off the power and said it was illegal and a fire hazard, using that and don’t forget ‘on the spot self-help eviction’ … I believe i ‘badgered’ him into letting us stay and in 2 weeks me the chick and the cat are supposed to be moving to a new spot ‘out in the county’. The electric was back on just after nightfall as well. Also promising $ helps too,
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Guess icm a little stuck on ‘nobody cares, (duh) and mjb’s comment on the other thread, comingled with a real old comment about side hustles, it’s a bit tangled up in my head yet but i actually havent been getting high, believe it or not
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Honestly (uh oh) no, real rap considering what we both been thru in our own special way, i hate to say it but if ya love em get your ish together and tell em to wrap it up if they cant and you’re still doing better, then there is still at least that!
And relationships are hard, how could it be otherwise hood problems all that.
As always i’m grateful to still be albeit somewhar annoying a member of this community right here
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v8Driver, is there a reason you turn each of these threads into your own personal journal? I feel for you, but stop
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no.
me praetorius x and someone else was granted limited guest access, sorry human!
so the side hustle? she said that guy’s out there, ah exasperation you don’t know what his struggle is, and education is hard for black people to get.
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so she finally went to her final hearing before trial on her adventure on the trolley, the judge counted it up, and made a grandiose statement about how, if served consecutively, of course: she stood up to 32 years incarceration and $75000 fine, no bones were broken or anything of real value lost…
unreal, also her mom has stage 4 cancer, lymphoma, or some such, the struggle is real!
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ah man i had to go to court the day after her, it was because i got drunk after our fight on nye vide supra on jan 3 i was at the bar getting wasted on vodka and the chick next to me said her name was Leah i was like i gotta go i did have some wings there but i fell asleep on the trolley and they woke me up in the county and i was apparently not walking to well, i yelled at the cop told him off and challenged him to a fist fight in the jail processing area but of course i did not touch him, he f*n shook my hand and the judge, she was like half black probably irish she had freckles, they said if i go to outpatient for mh/sa they will drop it wow i was like were you the arresting officer? i was blind. it was 2 summaries, she got an extra charge in court ‘receiving stolen property’
and its wierd at work, the mall i work out of all the time every week is closed! wow man
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So she’s taking care of her mom 24/7, i’m sort of easing in, it’s public housing (a step up from our room, where he is coming over to get rent today, how nice), i’m staying overnights now usually, and sober? We’re great. Good luck with that, right? So one nagging thing, her brother? We’re circling around each other, you know, things can be on again, off again but it’s not about us right now… He (and leah too so she says) is A moabite canaanite? Lordie lordie so i can get with not using ‘black’ and ‘white’; however the military ‘getting involved’ and shooting people in the head if they say they’re a ‘white american,’ not eg irish? And if self-describing one’s self as the latter, “they” will be sent back to ‘where they came from’ and the ‘white americans’ stole the land from ‘real americans?’ ADOS? No not that. i’m just like sorry i can’t get with that at all… And trump was sent here to achieve this? Wow. I can’t even unpack this mess, it’s second hand, and not to put my brother in law on blast etc etc
“Dear Mr. Fantasy!”
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Wow, this rabbithole, you can drive a truck down it. The moorish nation apparently comes from the days of pangaea, or ‘asia’… It’s a whole thing.
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Wow, this rabbithole, you can drive a truck down it. The moorish nation apparently comes from the days of pangaea, or ‘asia’… It’s a whole thing.
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apparently it goes back to the annunaki, nebiru all that scientology stuff came from moor syncretism?
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Yeah ok personal sovreignty and whatever, maritime law he fudged, ie discussing the ocean as sovereign to ‘morroco’ outside the tmz? And european aren’t supposed to be in america? Yes i’ve heard this before somewhere, hold on that’s a hard stop,
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Yeah ok personal sovreignty and whatever, maritime law he fudged, ie discussing the ocean as sovereign to ‘morroco’ outside the tmz? And european aren’t supposed to be in america? Yes i’ve heard this before somewhere, hold on that’s a hard stop,
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RIP Patricia West
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RIP Patricia West
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Her mom died right in front of us,
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Her mom died right in front of us,
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Post #666, how bout that; but it is so clear me amd my wife, with all that extra stuff boiled away, we’re like two little orpan kids hiding from the scary world, and all the people, they’re so mean.
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Eh whatever that local yokel bs, i like her brother everyone came over today it was nice i dont he likes that im european, matrilineal thought dipping into 144k, eh i think he a fast talker mostly, i need my civil rights back and to drive all my kids and wife around, buncha bs, proper person i can go for days not even carrying a key. This is tough, her personalities are real and she know she’s going to jail.
Also he was saying phenotype is offensive bit the moors he was unclear on the border of ‘mooracco’ or whatever but it’s worse collecting all this data and remembering and just like how do i not like tank this important conversation, hand sanitize, repeat and maintain dignity throughtout ah well i hate ppl that drink and smoke crack, like she’ll say it’s not the smoke but it’s tightly interwoven with the belligerent selfish libertine trip and add fast talking well chalk about +50 cultural competence?
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Well now she’s taken over her mom’s public housing unit and kicked me out while i was out for 3 hr’s for work. If this isn’t resolved today i promise this is done with this one, she’s going to jail for a year anyway in may, obviously, i tried. Thanks.
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the ashes came today; i have only gotten kicked out a couple of more times, but well … ish i live in the projects now it’s not like either one of us gets a pass? but it’s been like 8 breakthroughs between me and her and noone else lately we go deep what can i say
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it’s ok to keep a bugout bag and also try to conceal some cash from your SO? js…
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and apparently i’m obliged to recommend for your own personal housing space, just in case, know what i mean?
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It’s done. Beta sex worker i told her its true
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so anyway, i get my cable modem installed today, and so a cop car bloops his siren and comes rushing up across the street, my cable guy is in the back (guess his complexion!), and the cop runs up the stairs with his gun drawn to the house across the street. Someone yells No! or something a couple times (sounded like an older person), on our side of the street; the cop holsters his gun and runs up to a porch on my side of the street, a couple doors down. He doesn’t even look at me, then he runs around back of the ‘patch’ of row houses where the cable guy is, whose truck is right there, and so i’m told, draws his gun on the cable guy, ah man this is getting out of control!!! So the cop drives off, fast, in his SUV. A female exits the residence across the street (same complexion I might add) that the cop first responded to, and walks away.
Another cop comes up in a car, not a white shirt, and lamely apologizes (this one’s an Asian male) and admonishes the cable guy that he should have a logo on the back of his jacket, not sure how that would help getting out of gunpoint when you’re facing the police!!!
unreal. The cop was like oh I gotta have my mask on, and know who I’m talking to here, like he just woke up or something, just astonishing.
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From another classmate, masks
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spreading rumors to work an angle, 365 deg mason the khemet masonry whatever my eyes are glazed over with the details,
but he said the fn 5g is interacting with the virus
there is someone else said its a raid on someone’s dna
and pete haron el whatnot is always on about genocidal ripping a family’s bloodline out jesus h can we just go back to work already
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So itook a hit and im standin herepants on no hacking. Obviously i called her well did u just ever had that i told you know thanks for setting me free and i just goes so deep like no other person otherwise not a success
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Did i ever have that to sayi loveu b andshe. Say i love i 2
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I dont remembe getting home last nite but i dud so ut was better than last time i drank over her. All that and she had just hung up on me cuz she needs sime $ right now, to get high of course. Oh well plan (no) b is still in effect. And i do hv a cpl irl friends.
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ah christ we back on FB again, cats and …’s i guess part of is it we just rag on destroy and emotionally cruficy each other? kinda wierd junkie short memory syndrome mostly probably
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and she ragged and destroyed and emotionally crucified me on FB today, so eh not to go into too much detail but whatever, oh yeah she was like you have to love yourself this whole gaslight angle, well devloped and also her mom bolstered it eh not really because i loved her truly despite everything eh so not really and i got myself into this situation
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oh lord we had a semi-civil phone call just now
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im going to see her soon we shall see!
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We had an ok day, it’s something of a force of nature
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We had an ok day, it’s something of a force of nature
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so, interesting bits, floating up and down like an iceberg, someimes you see the tip, when, and it’s real now, seriously: when confronted with a contest to your alpha-ness, and they don’t like co-alpha, you have choices, and FTR you may not want to get into with them? you can get sneaky, pushy, deceitful, bow down, or leave? or i’m still with co-alpha because like yes you have a crib now but come on now i aint gotta say nothing, she refuses to acknowledge any possibility of real jail time, anyway…
my next heavy metal song, it’s gonna be called ‘hot mess’ cue heavy guitar
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tres gauche her attitude, but i have been a colossal d*k for some time for paranoid insecurity mostly brought on by spending $400 in a sitting etc but wow, so i live in the projects, and she got her tax check and we both should? not sure with cs, get our stimmies and the +$600 a wk is nice we both got uc, so i’m just like we both are going to have our own money the struggle is real and is to be continued!
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the co-alpha dillema who’s gonna be nice first
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no its going south fast now and then it’s not im glad to be home in sw it sucks but what was that old milwaukee commercial it doesnt get any better than this
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armed robbery at gunpoint and home invasions are becoming the new normal, it’s pretty bad here actually
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I clicked on philadelphia ms also a house for if she should go upstate gs12 jobs jackson its like the only city in ms
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St louis mo is apparently the capitol of getting shot in the face too its just ugly
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hard to tell her you know bad timing and also its nice to tell you those things they wont (that just wanna throw you down) haha yeah your habit is +200
also whatever i have pulled a couple stacks against all adversity and a car, my friend is getting it ready for me so the storage spot a po box and car, and stimmy to child support etc etc like im good you can fix stupid just be nice and patient but not dont wanna learn
so and yeah not MS it has the confederate flag on the state house how do you fix that
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and im just like i am a con artist, know guns computers, animals, cars, 4×4 camping like wtf talk all that proper person and whatever clearly 45 is trying to repoin the us to avoid whatever but idk they just fn shoot guns around here every weekend like close here and ppl getting shot its messed up but i just could not say i made moves and so forth wow
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and to put a bullet in it frfr im just like (your sister and brother) gonna take this stuff from your mommy to storage when you go upstate she dont like that one
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so we saw ‘the good kisser’ last night; it was not what i was expecting — but anyway — for a great example of a beta sub personality cf the ‘jenna’ character, oi vey!
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Its getting wierd and uncomfortable, even to me. Imagine that level, if you will.
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*dupe comment above
The segue in is slitting her own wrists and lighting everything else on fire while i’m out for work potentially after leaving my stuff on the front step? I know i should call social services but she got a new court date in august, i told the DA on my case when my face got cut off i didnt want to ruin her last few months out, all she said was ‘yes’ as she nodded.
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She done really f’d it up apparently we have notice to vacate im about out rent is not the issue
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Idk what to do she going on about suicide im a b she dont need me im a european shes taking pills omg f me now shes another b that died on my watch omg shes burning the house wow i mean i come on strong like yeah we had no $ last week and u smoked 16 bags ($10) in front of me like wtf wow anything i said had no basis rooming house after rooming house you wanted to smoke every time she said get me some or ima f someone she hates being reminded
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Flailing idk its like beyond blessed be 93/93
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Time to move again honestly i told omg no thats why i would never put this on paper and that ish is not following to a real place what is she gonna tear up my block/apt bldg gtfo time to move thx for your patience
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So she recallss me to base 3 cop cars are there and at least her niece scooped her up
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well i have to clean up this sh* show again, no permanent damage done, i will heave this roadhog over to its proper lane at irrirl.wordpress.com
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certain things have gotten better? but she is withholding food she already cooked? and yelling? like she’s gonna stay out if she wants to? yeah ok well i just got a new extra part time contract? i explaing it as a part time job? ish it was a straight offer no blah blah so anyway… say it like you’re from nj
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‘you can take that to your next dwelling or habitation as valuable skill item, it just came out like that no thinking involved or required
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out of context of the ‘crescendo of doom’ of the last ~2.5 weeks it was over washing plastic dishware properly
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I want her to leave
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whee just trying to do that one last job 15 blocks from the house, just got jumped by like 12 kids, lost my backpack, drill, and new iphone! whiny residential customers, well what are you going to do, carry a gun or something?
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is paralipsis racist? well i got in between a feuding bum and someone who supposedly works at the municipal services bldg. ie downtown police hq, got coffee thrown on me punched and maced/peppersprayed not sure which right across the street from city hall the other day and also kicked out of the hospital, i was not a good customer.
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about 3 pm, i think it was a tuesday
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my damn show better be on tonight, one of 2 i watch live! of course SVU is the other one,
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interesting ,seems like your going through some destress ,but this america
I like how you are going to be ignored just like most poor \ homeless people in america
and individual americans just like most of the commentors here
don’t care
but I do so I will try.
What information can I convey to you that will help you?
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well thank you, i’ve known you here for a long time, not sure. my wife is a real problem
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@mbeti idk maybe i would like to say somethings too obviously.
i said to her what if you were in a all white neighborhood and they was kickin your ass every day on the street in the house what would you think did you even ever think of that
and whatever, man so she still says it is not black or uncle toms here so its a lot to go through really
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she acknowledged being a ADOS today
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mostly i just wanted to say how desparate people are, i’m homed here thanks
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i reached the end of my rope, she invokes weakness i’d say
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wow, man. well i told her to go to rehab and smokin here is done, and anywhere else guess what that too, it’s really reaching the boiling point
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agape
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she’s into the lord of the rings and hobbit movies now too, that’s kinda cool
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she knew the lore of the ring, five wizards i was like damn i need to read the books again
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@ v8driver
I have a few questions for you as somebody engaged with a partner of different color (race) in the USA.
Do you feel signs of disapproval of your relationship when going outdoors with your partner?
Had you suffered from disapproval from members of your extended family (brothers, cousins, sons/daughters, etc) regarding your relationship?
Who, do you see as more critical against interracial relationships, Blacks or Whites?
Have you ever considered quitting the relationship because the “heavy toll” that race differences is eventually playing in your relationship?
Do you believe that some White males avoid falling in love to a woman because she is Black/Colored and they don’t have the “guts” to go against societal disapproval against those relationships?
Thanks in advance for your attention.
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yes, she’s drunk, screaming at me, and it is too many unexplained occurences, and the gaslighting is exacting a heavy toll, i kid you not. this is far beyond just being with a black woman with a job, not out on bail for a felony robbery charge, like normal is not a component here
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On the alpha male tip? Never accept gaslighting, she will try to run circles around your head, and you might be tired and a little hazy, she will overtalk you and you know when it sounds like preaching… If saying a conversation is 2 ways, etc, doesn’t work make a note of it, they will say your crazy, a mark, that’s why noone like you etc, maybe even some racial slurs she will trot out but hold it down, just remember.
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@ v8driver
Thanks for your quick, concise and clear response.
I’m now more enlightened regarding these issues of interracial dating in America.
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My little bro used the pluperfect ‘been done’ properly, I was surprised, he didn’t get the tone quite right I helped him but he teaches catholic school physics and chemistry. My mom’s in the hospital, she’s ok but I think about her mom not making it.
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My mom’s not gonna make it either
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i guess i’m supposed to cut her some slack tonight? do you say happy juneteenth?
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well never thought I’d say lucky our gas is cut off; they’re selling the house we’re living in, and we found an apartment (yay no more rooming houses and rando bloops with no jobs hanging around my wife all day!) but for the SECOND time someone entered the house, put all four burners on half high and left the piezoelectric starter (clicker spark thingie that lights the burner) on click click click, that’s a booby trap intending to commit a double murder right there, enchante,
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Originally Posted By V8Driver
What the hell you babbling about ?
If anyone can make any sense as to what you just wrote and it’s relevancy to the topic in hand then they’re a smarter man than me.
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Someone tried to kill me and my wife twice I mean Jesus I’m gettin a complex about all these shootings but it’s not even safe inside ok?
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When the stove is pumping natural gas out 4 burners and the igniter is ticking when the gas reaches a critical density in the house it will be bricks and little pieces of us n the cats for a 3 block radius ok?
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