Comment Policy

How to do italics in the comments

Last important update: December 23rd 2021.

If your comment does not appear, tell me in a comment that begins with the word “abagond” (so I can find it in the spam filter, which I usually check once a day).

The main thing to keep in mind:

Comments should be about the post or other comments, not about commenters!

If you do that and do not use too much bad language (see below) then my comment policy will be of little concern to you. Imagine that I have invited you to my house for dinner.

Click here for tips on commenting, like how to do italics, set your avatar, etc.

You can get banned for:

Repeatedly violating the comment policy.
Ignoring my warnings.
Using a sock puppet.
Using a proxy server.
Using a fake email address.
Threatening other commenters.
Calling for violence.
Being a self-confessed troll.

Moderation: Comments get thrown to moderation if they:

Have more than two links.
Use a moderated word: asshole, bitch, calice, chink, cialis, cock, cracker, cunt, dick, faggot, fuck, gook, gorilla, honky, Japs, jigaboo, kaffir, maricón, Mahometan, merde, Mohammedan , motherfucker, Muhammadan, nazi, nigga, nigger, ofay, pendejo, pink, piss, pussy, savage, shit, skinhead, tabarnak, terrorist, thug, tits, tranny, trailer trash, twat, white trash, wench, whiteboy, whitey, youtube and any form of these words.

Most of these words are trollspeak.

“Youtube” is moderated because longer threads would become unusable if every YouTube video was embedded. Therefore I need to catch the YouTube links before they appear. If you put YouTube links in parentheses, they will get through moderation more quickly.

I reserve the right to delete comments that are:

cut-and-pasted from other sources and exceeding 500 words (please summarize and put in a link instead),
thrown to moderation,
IN ALL CAPS,
in Mock Ebonics,
in another language without English translation,
spam,
way off topic,
ad hominem attacks or name calling (or using people’s wrong names),
plagiarized,
advertising,
about genitals,
obscene or linked to obscene material,
necrophilic,
pictures of dead or disfigured bodies or links to such material.
about another commenter’s sex life or psychiatric condition,
has a telephone number or an email address.
quotes more than 250 words from a given source (a possible copyright violation).

Insulting language: I also reserve the right to delete those that use insulting language. Note, though, that “racist” and “troll” do not count as insults. On a blog that talks so much about racism, both racists and trolls need to be called out. Calling someone a plagiarist is an insult unless it can be backed up with an example.

Advertising means not just trying to sell something but also providing a link to your content while giving no sign of having read mine.

I do not want to punish or limit ideas. These rules do not punish ideas but certain ways of expressing them. In my experience those who express their ideas in these ways are not all that serious to begin with.

If you are an established commenter, one who has been here a while whose name I recognize, I will say why I deleted your comment. Established or not, you are always free to dispute a deletion.

If you have questions or suggestions about my comment policy, then please comment below or contact me.

Peace.

– Abagond, 2009, 2016.

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707 Responses

on Sun Dec 6th 2009 at 22:08:46 dan

u need to take in consideration black men raped irish women in west indies.irish,scot and poor saxons were put in to slavery before blackls were brought to this country.thr mixed black men over see black and white slaves in west indies.they rape the irish women.also masters would breed men with big healthy women of both races .for more slaves.

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on Sun Dec 20th 2009 at 03:07:51 Nita

Dan get a life!

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on Sun Dec 20th 2009 at 21:26:53 islandgirl

I love this header! It’s very beautiful and appropriate!

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on Sun Dec 20th 2009 at 21:28:53 abagond

Thank you!

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on Mon Dec 21st 2009 at 01:55:40 Herneith

How did you customize your site? Do you use FTP? If you want different themes, you have to either pay for them or download them with a FTP client.

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on Mon Dec 21st 2009 at 01:56:53 Herneith

Should have said in my limited experience, you need a FTP client to download the themes.

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on Mon Dec 21st 2009 at 07:01:28 abagond

WordPress has a set of themes you can pick from. You can, of course, always design your own and upload it, but I have not done that (yet) and do not know how. But it is possible. This is my fifth theme, though the last one I had lasted for almost two years.

If you mean just the picture at top, that is merely a setting. There is a page where you can upload a picture through a form and then crop it to the right size.

The snow is also a setting. It will go away on January 4th.

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on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 20:38:33 leigh204

I just wanted to wish Happy Holidays to everyone, or whatever you’re celebrating, and may 2010 bring good health, great prosperity and wealth! 😀

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on Thu Dec 24th 2009 at 23:36:36 AO

Thanks Leigh same to you and yours. Happy Holidays. Here’s to a troll-free 2010. LOL 😀

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on Fri Dec 25th 2009 at 03:31:23 Thaddeus Blanchette

And in that spirit, let me make the last troll of 2010… 😉

So we’re watching Hizholinesses’ midnight mass here in Brazil, Julian, and damned if they aren’t making an effort to portray Catholicism as multiracial. Who’da thunk old Adolf XVI had it in him?

But seriously man: do you think they used make up on those kids in the choir? All the white kids had perfectly rosey cheeks; all the black kids that weird glittery-silver color.

Creepy.

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on Thu Dec 31st 2009 at 18:59:44 leigh204

May you all have a wonderful, happy, and healthy New Year! 🙂

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on Thu Dec 31st 2009 at 19:12:02 Mira

Happy New Year! (4 hours till 2010 for me)

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on Thu Dec 31st 2009 at 19:26:31 Herneith

Happy New Years!!!

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on Tue Jan 12th 2010 at 21:16:20 I'm white

Do you know how you can tell if you have won an argument?

The other person will call you names.

Unity by any means necessary!

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on Mon Mar 15th 2010 at 09:49:57 Noaj

Finally, a civilized place to converse. I am so sick of the hate found in so many places online.

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on Mon Mar 15th 2010 at 13:50:52 ColorOfLuv

Welcome Noaj !!! You’ll find “hater’s” and propagandists here, but overall, this is a great area for healthy dialogue on a multitude of topics.

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on Fri Apr 30th 2010 at 16:38:35 Y

hello!

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on Fri Apr 30th 2010 at 16:39:18 Y

Just practicing

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on Fri Apr 30th 2010 at 16:41:16 Y

Hello There Mate!

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on Sat May 22nd 2010 at 06:19:05 aeigfc

Abagond I can’t thank you enough, I’ve been googling high and low and can’t figure out how to italicise comments, until I remembered you wrote about this before. *blows online kiss*

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 00:35:14 abagond

Dear All:

At the very beginning of my comment policy I say this:

“Note: If someone is calling you names or otherwise breaking the comment policy please tell me directly.”

So if someone makes a personal remark about you and you want it deleted, email me as soon as possible. Do not wait a week or a month and then write me a long, angry email calling me all kinds of names. That is not a good scene for either one of us.

Unfortunately I get so many comments any more that I do not always get a chance to read them all all the way through.

For example, you could probably make a fair case that B.R. got banned instead of Thad simply because B.R.’s comments are shorter and more likely to be read all the way through by me.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 00:46:28 leigh204

Wait, B.R. was banned?! Where was I when all this went down? Dang.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 01:33:06 Herneith

Do not wait a week or a month and then write me a long, angry email calling me all kinds of names.

People actually do that? Email you, and call you names? I thought I was weird!

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 01:33:25 peanut

why did BR get banned?

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 03:00:43 Thaddeus

From my point of view, it was getting to the point where I simply had to repeatedly say “I’m not fighting. Make a point.” I’m willing to take some good-natured name-calling, expecially when I realize that my opinions piss people off from time to time. I can handle that. But when someone follows me thread to thread, complaining about months-old posts and ignores repeated advice to take the complaints elsewhere (seeing as how there was a whole thread dedicated to the kind of arguments being made) and, on top of that, starts calling me evry name under the sun…

Well, the guy really needs to cool it.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 04:25:20 Y

so BR got the boot?

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 04:27:55 peanut

hmmm…BR is gone huh?

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 08:19:53 J

Personally I cannot help but apportion some blame to you Thad for BR’s removal

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 10:14:27 Mira

Wait… BR got banned?!? Why… When? What happened?

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 11:16:31 Thaddeus

J, I know you don’t like all my comments either and Lord knows I don’t like all of yours. I TRY my best to not engage in ad hominems and I’m fully aware of the fact that what is an ad hominem is hard to define.

I think if I say someone is a fascist twist, that’s an ad hominem. If I say I think that a certain idea that’s espoused is a bunch of fascist tripe that, to me, is not an ad hominem: I’m critiquing ideas, not people.

I try to apply the same rule to my own reactions, so I don’t call for moderation when someone calls me a “racist”, even though it is an ad hominem, because discussing racism is what this blog is all about.

But I DO think it’s trolling to follow me around from topic to topic openly insulting me and refusing to back off even when I and others say “Hey, cool it”.

Neither I nor anyone else is responsible for that sort of behavior.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 11:45:41 Thaddeus

Oh, and btw, I’d like it to be known that I didn’t call for B.R.’s banning, nor did I ever complain to Abagond about him.

The only person I’ve called for banning, to date, is The Great White Guy, who seems to get his rocks off by publically describing his fantasies of genocide.

From what I gather, B.R. told Abagond off.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 11:56:51 MerriMay

As nice as B.R seemed he couldn’t argue without resorting to name-calling. The more exasperated he became, esp at Thad, well he let it rip, lol.
On a side note..was No_Slappz banned as well???

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 11:57:20 J

Mira,

…Because he ignored Abagond request, whilst continue to argue with Thad. He got banned for the same reason as No_Slappz

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:34:36 abagond

I banned No Slappz because:

1. I warned him in an email in no uncertain terms not to tell anyone where Jasmin went to school but he did it anyway.

2. I warned him TWICE that O.J. Simpson was off topic but he talked about him anyway.

I banned B.R. because he would not lay off of the name calling. He would make a perfectly good point but then end it with calling Thad names.

In both cases neither were even TRYING to follow the comment policy.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:35:04 abagond

Note that I do allow certain ad hominems: you can call someone a troll, a racist or a sock puppet, especially if you can back it up with reasons.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:37:29 Mira

I believe No_Slappz (who was usually very careful not to violate the comment policy) got banned because he went way off topic in a thread; Abagond had to delete many of his comments, and it is said in the comment policy that “If I find myself deleting too many of your comments, I will ban you”. I believe that’s what happened to No_Slappz.

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:39:42 MerriMay

Oh no poor Jasmin 😦

I hope it was taken down swiftly before anyone had time to read it, what an awful thing to do to someone!

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:42:00 peanut

how did no slappz know where jasmin went to school. i wouldn’t tell someone like no slappz any personal information about myself….

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on Thu May 27th 2010 at 12:49:16 peanut

abagond…are you annoyed by my comments? Why don’t you ever respond to me, i’m sorry!

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on Fri May 28th 2010 at 15:58:29 helen

Hiya. how do you open this your site. It looks great and more mature!

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on Thu Jun 3rd 2010 at 21:21:11 Natasha W

^Wow, you really went to every post she commented on and deleted her comments? That’s dedication.

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on Thu Jun 3rd 2010 at 21:33:06 abagond

It was easier than that: I can search for comments by email address of the commenter.

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 01:42:21 LaganjUntranslatable

LEFT because I am done with the ignorant ad hominem attacks on me and the loser stalkers on here.
You fools can say whatever you want and then you turn around and complain when somebody says something about you. Not worth my time.

“on Wed 31 Mar 2010 at 13:10:30 Thad
Or just use your real name.

It is VERY easy to find out who is who here. It took me about 15
minutes of digging to scare up an ID on a certain poster here and I am
certainly no haxxxxor.

Presonally, I think it’s better to presume that you are known rather
than think you’re hidden behind some wall of anonymity. You’re
actually safer that way and it will make you think twice before you
post truly inflamatory things that you wouldn’t want to stand by IRL.

Unless you’re REALLY protecting your I.D. (i.e. posting through
multiple proxxies and the like, with NO cognitive traces to anything
else you’ve written on the net), I would say post under your name and
leave it at that.

It’s a reminder that you are not anonymous simply because you use a handle.”

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 01:43:39 LaganjUntranslatable

Thad knows where you go to school jasmin because he sits on his butt all day stalking people on the computer.

His sock puppet No-slappz knows. LOL

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 08:35:02 Mira

I understand this. But why did you delete your own comment about Thad not being a sock puppet of No-slappz?

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 08:48:41 abagond

PLEASE NOTE:

Erzulie Red Eyes has complained about me to WordPress and threatens to take me to court for slander because I allow people to say mean things about her.

I have deleted all her comments from this blog as she requested.

In addition I have deleted all comments that have her name in it.

Any future comment that talks about her will be deleted too.

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 08:55:09 abagond

Erzulie Red Eyes has been banned. No one is to speak of her ever again on this blog.

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on Fri Jun 4th 2010 at 10:10:06 leigh204

Whoa. Stuff always happens when I’m away.

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on Sat Jun 5th 2010 at 00:15:07 Peanut

😦 😦

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on Sat Jun 5th 2010 at 00:30:23 Peanut

BR, blankey and No Slappz all banned…

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on Sat Jun 5th 2010 at 00:33:19 leigh204

@Peanut:

Who’s blankey? I’m afraid I’ve never heard of that poster before.

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on Sat Jun 5th 2010 at 00:34:06 leigh204

Wait, I figured it out. Doh!

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on Sat Jun 5th 2010 at 05:35:12 Eurasian Sensation

Shame about some of the bannings; but it will be nice to be able to have respectful arguments/discussions without the unnecessary hatefulness.

Btw, I’ve been coming across No_Slappz over at Field Negro’s blog. I’m not sure why he so loves hanging out in the black blogosphere, since he sure don’t love black people.

But I noticed he found a home at Guy White, which is more his style.

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 20:38:56 Dahoman X

Here, a question!
How do you quote other commenters’ posts?

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:02:09 leigh204

@Dahoman X:

You mean, like the quote below?

Here, a question!
How do you quote other commenters’ posts?

abagond gave examples above in his commenting policy.

Italics: Put at the beginning of what you want to italicize and at the end. So if you type Vogue, it will appear as Vogue.

Boldface: Put at the beginning of what you want to make bold and at the end. So if you type Jasmin it will appear as Jasmin.

* For the blockquote, simply type the word

in the beginning and at the end of what you want to quote. Well, that’s how I do it. Also, don’t forget the slash on the second blockquote. Please refer to abagond’s examples. Hope it helps. 😀

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:05:46 leigh204

Oh, shoot! Dahoman X, please look at the examples abagond had in his commenting policy.

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:07:00 leigh204

Type the word blockquote and then you’ll have your quote.

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:11:08 Mira

I think putting ” around the markers solves this problem. Let me try

It goes in the form of:
I want to make this text different.

For italic, the tag is “i” or “em” (less the “).
For bold, the tag is “b” or “strong” (less the “).

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:12:05 Mira

Ok, it didn’t work. Let me try again, lol.

I want to make this text different.

(But without blanks between < and tag).

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:13:41 Mira

It’ not working. I give up.
But now let me try something about the links:

My website

I hope is working. This way, you don’t have to type the whole URL and you can give it a custom name you want.

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:37:31 Dahoman X

Alright, let’s try:

blockquote This should appear quoted. /blockquote

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:39:16 Dahoman X

er, something went wrong…

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:40:28 Dahoman X

How about this?

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:42:10 leigh204

Yay! You did it! Congratulations! 😀

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on Sun Jun 13th 2010 at 21:42:37 Dahoman X

Hurrah it worked!!
Thank you, Leigh and Mira!

Btw, Abagond, this blog needs smileys.

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on Mon Jun 14th 2010 at 03:18:30 Y

is this it

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on Mon Jun 14th 2010 at 03:40:07 leigh204

@Y:

You got it, girl! 😀

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on Mon Aug 30th 2010 at 20:20:10 abagond

Policy change: I will delete comments with a telephone number or email address.

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on Sun Sep 12th 2010 at 01:45:29 Marga

Hi everyone,

Interracial marriage and bi-racialism is an interesting topic. I am half Japanese and half of English, Irish and French. I was born only thirteen years after the ban on interracial marriages was enacted, in1980.
Unfortunately, my parents did not receive the support they needed to keep their interracial marriage strong; both from their parents and the community at large. They divorced by the time I was three years old. It was a tragic event in my personal life. My father left me to move to another city to start another interracial marriage. I felt grief about this huge loss from my childhood.
For this reason, I support the growth of interracial marriages by families and communities. Sometimes I think if my parents had received the support they needed from those around them, their marriage might have survived. I’m glad that interracial marriages are on the rise. I hope that one day, every marriage will either be an interracial marriage or originate from an interracial union.
Lastly, THANK YOU to the author or creator of this Blog. I think that this blog will help spread the message that biracial people, myself included, are capable, competent, intelligent and successful people. They deserve recognition and support.

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on Wed Oct 6th 2010 at 14:09:47 Mira

How to make ~~strikethrough~~ font: HTML tab for it is STRIKE, or S. (I believe both work).

Let me try: you should put <strike> at the beginning, and </strike> at the end. Or <s> at the beginning and </s> at the end.

Examples: blablahblah

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on Wed Oct 6th 2010 at 14:11:18 Mira

Correction: S does not work, only STRIKE.

So you have to put <strike> at the beginning and </strike> at the end.

(Real, working) example: ~~blahblahblah~~

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on Wed Oct 6th 2010 at 14:12:58 Mira

Oh, and if you want < and > to appear and not to be turned into HTML code, you must type their codes:

< is & l t ;
and > is & g t ;
(less the space between characters).

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on Thu Oct 14th 2010 at 22:31:52 Peanut
on Fri Oct 15th 2010 at 04:45:44 aeigfc

~~just testing~~

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on Fri Oct 15th 2010 at 04:46:52 aeigfc

Mira rocks!

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on Wed Oct 20th 2010 at 17:10:36 Bruce

Hi Abagond– great blog! I found it sort of by accident, while searching for a similar one I’ve visited before, and I came upon a topic from kind of a while back on the issue of relationships between black women and white men. I saw that you posted some pix of particularly beautiful black female celebrities, whom you described as having “cutesie” faces, and you suggested white men would be interested in black women that looked this way, but would not be interested in women who looked another way– and you posted some more pix of women in whom I couldn’t see much difference apart from fewer of them smiling, I think.

I don’t know what other white guys are into– you’re surely gonna have a better handle on that than I will, BUT, for whatever it’s worth, I didn’t see any women on your second list who were any kind of turn off to me. Now, it’s true, I’m almost forty, and am a happily married dude, so maybe a person at my point in life isn’t a good proxy for these questions– I mean, if I were ever single again, personality would matter a lot more than it did when I was twenty, it would matter more than it did when I was thirty, for that matter, and when I was thirty, it mattered a lot.

And by the way, I got your point (this was a while back so maybe you won’t remember these details) about the distinction between a mere sexual attraction and attraction upon which real friendships can be built, and on that note, I might be a guy you were sort of questioning– but I like a strong woman (and I mention that because in it’s my experience that though there are a lot of exceptions, black Americans tend to be what I’d call the strongest Americans in a “mental” sense– a strong presence, a steady eye contact, not apt to show a lot of fear), and not because I’m some soft and velvety dude but because strength is the life force and that’s an attractive, trustworthy thing. I wouldn’t want a woman that overpowered me, but in the sense I mean it it could apply to a woman of any race.

One thing that’s different about me compared to what I’ve noticed in some of the very street smart, urban black communities is that the men and the women adhere pretty closely to traditional gender roles (this tends to be true in the working class of the white and Latino communities, too) and this might be an area where myself and a black woman from that background who hit it off early on might find some compatibility issues: not that I’m at all uncomfortable with being masculine and playing most of those roles, but for the most part, with myself and the women I’ve been close to over the years, the roles have been more an act than a real way of life. Not totally, of course– I mean, I open doors for my wife, I usually drive the car when we’re together, and when there’s a situation that looks like it could be threatening of course I naturally step up to investigate it and if need be, deal with it– but beyond stuff like that, I don’t consider the whole “man” thing to be a big part of my identity. For example, I can’t fix anything or use any tool more complicated than a hammer, and when a machine breaks on me, I look at it and have no idea where to begin. My wife scolds me for this because she’s the sort who will usually try to see if she can figure it out, and over the years, she’s picked up a certain set of skills with stuff like that.

Also, in a general sense, I’m better with our children than she is. Childrearing is such a complicated endeavor I mean this only in a general sense but overall, I’m better, and this has been true pretty much since the kids were just out of infancy.

She owns and runs her own business; I’d never want to do that– I used to teach high school and now I write professionally, these are things she’d never do. She has an incredible to keep going forward when things go against her– she does most of the selling of her products and she undergoes so much rejection in order to make the sales she makes I don’t know how she does it– whereas rejections and setbacks hit me pretty hard– I also get back up, but sometimes it may take me an hour or even a day or two.

My overall point being I’m not sure a woman who had been brought up to expect men and women to follow tradition very closely might find me unreliable in some situations. I don’t know.. it’s not a huge flaw in my character and anyway I’m also funny and smart and usually make friends with people easily.

And finally, how is all this relevant to that discussion you were having on your blog– maybe I’m wrong, but I think there are probably a fair number of white guys more or less like me as I’ve described myself. I mention it because when we deal with the black white thing in America, there’s a strong tendency for us to have difficulty, especially in the beginning, to not be affected by stereotype and past experience, even if we have a fair amount of experience mingling among each other’s cultures. I mean, first you’ve got all the nervous emotion connected to the beginning of a man/woman connection– does he like me does she like me, did I say that in a cool way, am I looking like a dork– and then you’ve got the complications of what we may mutually expect and believe to be true about people of the other race and culture. In a worst case scenario, we may act on the basis of these old wounds and begin unconsciously creating or imagining we’re seeing the negative things we dislike or are afraid of in each other.

BUT, I am also quite optimistic that all these things are things people can deal with and get past if they have goodwill and if they like and care for the other person.

I hope I’m right about what I assume and I hope this might throw out a little bit about someone from the whole white community– I keep reading that black women and white men are increasingly finding companionship and love with one another and to me, that’s got to be a good thing– not that I want to black women to leave their own communities but I think love is a great thing and not easy to find, and if two people find it with each other now, when society is more open to accepting such relationships, and when the people themselves are more open to allowing themselves to go forward with them, that’s gotta be a good thing. 🙂

Sorry for the length 🙂

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on Thu Oct 28th 2010 at 20:08:37 Gary Munson

Abagond:

Regarding the “Brazilian Women” blog – in pure numbers – you might be correct (although it is difficult to quantify because virtually all of South America has significantly mixed ancestry – and those that live there do not carry labels, like we do in the US).

However, as a percentage of population, the Dominican Republic/Haiti has far more people of African ancestry – probably followed second by what used to be Gran Colombia (Panama, Colombia, Venezuela and parts of several other countries).

Contrary to popular myth, the slave trade was not centered in the United States. The main ports of entry, for the vast majority of slaves, were in Cartagena and what is now Puerto Tejada – and second, in various ports throughout the Caribbean islands of Cuba and Haiti/Dominican Republic. This created population centers of Africans – in the southern portion of the Western Hemisphere – none of which migrated back when Liberia was founded. They remain in these areas, today, and (in certain areas) comprise almost 100% of the population.

Gary

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on Tue Nov 2nd 2010 at 16:32:50 ann varela

Sorry, but I have to tell you the truth. Black people in America do not like their race. They are always looking at people to see if they have black blood or if they are mixed. It is insanity. I have done a lot of traveling and the black people from other countries are normal, they do not care if you are mixed or are 1/4 pr 1/8 black, they just accept you for who you are. The black people in America are mean spirited and all they do is talk about the white man this, the white man that etc. White people hardly ever talk about black people. They are just not interested in black people. The only thing we are truly concerned about is why are black women having so many children, with different Fathers. I think that black people (not all) are stupid, their command of the english language is terrible, they are intellectually inferior to other black people around the world. The reason why White men do not marry Black women is because White women are prettier and more feminine and not as coarse as black women.

Grow up, white people are bored with black people.

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on Tue Nov 2nd 2010 at 17:47:37 King

“Sorry, but I have to tell you the truth. Black people in America do not like their race. They are always looking at people to see if they have black blood or if they are mixed. It is insanity.”

And do you know how this self-consciousness classification of Black people emerged? Y’know… all the mulatto, quadroon, octoroon nonsense? I’ll give you a guess who started the problems not too long ago…

White people hardly ever talk about black people.”

Do you find it vexing that a 12% minority population talks more about the 70% dominant majority population than the other way around? Or are you to bored to actually THINK?

I think that black people (not all) are stupid, their command of the english language is terrible, they are intellectually inferior to other black people around the world.”

Let me ask you a question… do you think that White Americans, in general, have a good command of the english language? I mean, if you walk around the streets of America, is the Queen’s english being spoken, for the most part? Or is the language filled with jargon, shortcuts, dialects, and neologisms?

Why is it somehow different to you when these things come from a Black person? Do you really think that most Black people speak jive? Do you think that ebonics is an actual language and that most Black people can’t speak passible english without employing it? Where are you getting your understanding of Black culture from, 1970s Black exploitation movies?

“The reason why White men do not marry Black women is because White women are prettier and more feminine and not as coarse as black women.”

So “prettiness” and “femininity” are just things that are set in stone for all time? Tastes and perceptions about these things don’t change and fluctuate? And Stereotypes about how THE MAJORITY of certain people act and look has nothing to do with it.

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 17:01:56 Hannu L

@Agabond

Just wanted to clarify that I’ve never used gravatar before and have been toying with it a little in the last few days. I think I’m happy with my username -which is and always was my real name- and my avatar pic, which is now in sync with my facebook profile. So I didn’t want to confuse anybody, I just needed to make up my mind. Takes time sometimes. 🙂

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 17:15:41 abagond

Okay.

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 17:21:15 Hannu L

And by the way, that avatar pic is a self portrait, me being an illustrator after all. 😛 It should have a great resemblance, at least that’s what a guy I met who I had known previously on-line only.

Great site you’ve got, but I have to admit I was accustomed to sites where discussions were more like virtual cage fights at times. Glad that I stumbled on the rules finally… 😛

Done.

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 17:49:22 BleuParfumRoses

ann varela wrote: “Black people in America do not like their race. They are always looking at people to see if they have black blood or if they are mixed. It is insanity. I have done a lot of traveling and the black people from other countries are normal, they do not care if you are mixed or are 1/4 pr 1/8 black, they just accept you for who you are.”

—

LOL, you’re must be very obviously mixed if Blacks “always looking at people to see if they have black blood” is even a concern of yours. “White people hardly ever” concern themselves with such things. Nice try, though….

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 18:09:47 FG

“And do you know how this self-consciousness classification of Black people emerged? Y’know… all the mulatto, quadroon, octoroon nonsense? I’ll give you a guess who started the problems not too long ago…”

Actually, many of the people who were classified under those labels were not “black” in any meaningful sense. Referring to these people as “black” is just a way to wipe them out of history because when people hear “black”, they tend to think of someone of pretty dark compexion. In fact, a better color description in many cases would be “olive”, “tan”, or just plain “white.” Sally Hemings for example is often referred to as “black”, but given that 3 of her 4 grandparents were white, she probably looked something like Mariah Carey. Mixed Americans in the 1800s often embraced those labels as accurate descriptions of their origins and many are again adopting them (despite sounding somewhat archaic) or similar terms.

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on Wed Nov 17th 2010 at 18:17:08 FG

“OL, you’re must be very obviously mixed if Blacks “always looking at people to see if they have black blood” is even a concern of yours. “White people hardly ever” concern themselves with such things. Nice try, though….”

Oh, that’s not just a concern of mixed people. I recently read comments by an unmixed Sicilian American woman on a mixed website complaining about black militants constantly questioning her on her origins because they suspect her of being mixed.

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on Sat Nov 20th 2010 at 00:30:50 fancyface

This article is very insightful, analytical, precise and illuminating. This is not only about “hiting the nail on the head”, It is also about disecting stereotypical and racist views that have so long existed in America.

I couldn’t agree more with this article. It is very accurate and informative. Bravo, Abagond! Thumbs up!

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on Thu Nov 25th 2010 at 11:26:59 leigh204

@Mira

Oh, and if you want to appear and not to be turned into HTML code, you must type their codes:

is & g t ;
(less the space between characters).

I hope this works.

lt;blockquotegt; lt;/blockquotegt;

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on Thu Nov 25th 2010 at 11:30:25 leigh204

Shoot. I suck at this html stuff. 😉

But thanks Mira! 😀

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on Wed Mar 2nd 2011 at 03:58:02 James

Lawrence Auster: The truth about interracial rape in the US

http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=26368

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on Mon Mar 7th 2011 at 01:27:36 The Cynic

Can we use the word retarded?

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on Wed Apr 6th 2011 at 16:39:34 lifelearner

*testing quotation*

blockquote is & g t ;blockquote

I didn’t see any explanation on how to quote, can you point me in the right direction?

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on Wed Apr 6th 2011 at 16:57:32 lifelearner

[quote]testing once again[/quote]

hopefully this will work 😀

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on Wed Apr 6th 2011 at 17:07:09 abagond

Use blockquote in place of quote and angle brackets in place of square brackets.

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on Wed Apr 6th 2011 at 17:36:41 lifelearner

thank you

😀

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on Sun Apr 17th 2011 at 21:19:42 The Cynic

Is the word N@zi allowed??? I’m trying to figure out what thru me into moderation…

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on Fri Jun 10th 2011 at 19:46:41 Godwin Sunday Akan

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on Fri Feb 10th 2012 at 04:22:10 Parfum Bleu

What’s the policy concerning individual commenters clogging up commentary with scores and scores of gibberish-filled posts?

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on Fri Feb 10th 2012 at 09:38:21 abagond

I do not delete comments because they lack logic. My policy is to delete comments that are off topic, use moderated words or call people names, though I apply that policy much more strictly to trolls or unknown commenters than to others. Both Herneith and Dave Lister, for example, are given quite a bit of latitude, though I do delete some of their comments.

One of the holes in this policy is that it is completely possible to say something that is arguably on topic while talking in a civil yet free-associative way. Like Mik, Gorbachev and Thordaddy. For them I apply the on-topic policy more strictly than for others.

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on Sat Feb 11th 2012 at 21:53:01 Parfum Bleu

Abagond, thanks for your response.

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on Mon Apr 2nd 2012 at 18:20:27 satanforce

Testing tag

href = https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2002/10/01/race_and_iq/page/full/>Not surprisingly, I can always count on you to miss the point of our comments

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on Mon Apr 2nd 2012 at 18:27:43 satanforce

Testing anchor tag again.

Not surprisingly, I can always count on you to miss the point of our comments

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on Sun Apr 15th 2012 at 01:00:55 grin and bear it

Ah, I got thrown into moderation for quoting what someone else said? Her post was published, complete with the questionable word.

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on Tue May 1st 2012 at 16:46:39 JT

I had comments deleted in the open thread for saying thank you for those that have shared their stories in the “What was your first experience with white racism.” thread – which to my understanding was supposed to be free from comment deletion.

Whites that are allies of social justice get the same or worse treatment as the whites that are posting daily anti-Black positions.

Its one thing to say this is a blog for Blacks and it is another to behave in equal measures in contempt of whites regardless of their contributions/positions.

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on Tue May 1st 2012 at 17:07:21 abagond

@ JT

Be glad that is all I did.

I said I did not want whites commenting on that thread. Doing it on the Open Thread instead is an undehanded move. If you had been on the blacklist like Bliff you would have been banned.

I know you meant well but allowing your comment would have undermined the ban. Bliff would still be here.

I drew the line at white because it followed from the title: “What was your first experience of white racism?”

Whites do not directly experience white racism unless they have been racialized somehow, like Muslims or the mother in “The Color of Water”. But in that case they have been kicked out of the white club and are no longer socially white.

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 17:35:04 duckduckgoofs

Abagond

I’ve noticed a couple of readers have been banned for comments they’ve made concerning a certain restricted thread. I hopped over to the restricted thread to see what the fuss was about and noticed I was mentioned by name. I personally find it easy not to comment either on or about that thread because I haven’t bothered to read past the intro.

But it looks like some who aren’t restricted are referencing that thread on others. In other words, some would appear to be violating the spirit of that thread’s restriction. By making comments concerning that thread on other threads, they are putting those portions in the public doman, so to speak.

So my question is… Will I now be sanctioned for responding to comments that I read on non restricted threads if it pertains to topics mentioned on the restricted thread even though I’m not even reading it?

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 17:37:46 abagond

@ Duck

Please be specific. Which comments are referencing that thread?

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 20:20:29 duckduckgoofs

Abagond “Please be specific. Which comments are referencing that thread?”

It would be difficult for me to know for sure which stories correspond to the restricted thread because I haven’t read it. But the context in the open thread suggests several have been. It would also be difficult for me to list all the discussions that have been carried over from the restricted thread because some appear to have been deleted.

My point is that if someone were to mention issues discussed on the restricted thread and it became a topic of discussion in the open thread then some would be sanctioned while others would not even though everyone violated the spirit of the restricted thread. Indeed, a number of readers appear to be willfully violating the spirit of the restricted thread by mentioning it in the open thread.

In other words, some are not using the restricted thread as a “safe space” but as a tool to harass and bully others. Some have even bragged about using it as a “trap”. If you’re going to restrict the thread then there should be sanctions for anyone violating that restriction. Therefore, if some people are restricted from commenting on that thread then everyone should be restricted from commenting about that thread on other threads.

Anyway, many of these comments mention the restricted thread. And some do so in a flippant and harassing fashion.

(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126433)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126435)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126441)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126475)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126550)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126594)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126595)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126603)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126605)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126613)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126621)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126623)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126751)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126764)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126765)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126767)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126781)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126786)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126824)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-126990)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-127009)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-127045)
(https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread-2/#comment-127070)

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 23:34:10 JT

@ Abagond,

I understand that there is a rule and system in place for moderating comments and that you are the blog owner.

My belief is that i don’t think that this is the supreme court of the USA and the rules do not need to be engraved in stone and strictly applied equally (necessarily). If ANY poster proves to be obnoxious to you (which ironically has recently been me) or embrace opinions towards Black oppression, that individual case should be measured (and possibly removed) based on what they are motivated to accomplish at a nearly all-Black board. Why aren’t they at StormFront having fun with the other white patriots and why do they deserve equal protection as those that fight vehemently for Black issues (even if they are not Black).

That’s all i’m saying.

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 23:48:09 darqbeauty

If people don’t like the way Abagond runs his blog, they are always welcome to leave. Abagond is courteous and displays a saint like patience when dealing with some of these bigots. Bigots who invade Black blogs with disparaging and hateful remarks and then whine because these remarks aren’t “protected”.
No one is forcing you to come here. Perhaps Ni*germania, Chimpout or Stormfront would make you feel more at home. It’s HIS house and he can do what he pleases.

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on Wed May 2nd 2012 at 23:49:54 darqbeauty

I LOVE that animated picture at top by the way!! LOL It’s very apropos.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 00:29:31 cleonette

When is duck going to realize this blog is not for duck? Hmmmm….

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 00:35:05 JT

@ darqbeauty,

I respect and hear what abagond has to say as well as the other respectful posters here. This thread is the comment policy thread. I am staying on topic and being respectful. Im not sure if your comment was directed to me but i am listening to abagond and doing my best to follow the rules.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 00:50:10 darqbeauty

@ JT it wasn’t directed at you. 🙂

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 00:58:16 JT

@ darqbeauty,

Sweet. I am guess Ive gotten worked up of late. Time to do some zen meditation to take me down. School is done so it is time to breath…

anyway thank you!

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 01:00:31 darqbeauty

Yes, this blog can be mentally exhausting. I have yet to post on the Racist Experiences thread because just reading it takes so much out of me. I think I will post my experiences then take a break as well.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 01:13:59 JT

I have been taught that from an early age from numerous Black women that I have lived with (a few were staff at a group home that I lived at and one was my step mom) that I am the recipient of white privilege. So i know that accordingly i nor any other white will ever understand nor appreciate the full scope of racism.

Nonetheless, it doesnt mean that we can’t oppose it in action when we see it. Which means we have to listen to Blacks tell their stories to learn what racism means to them and each Black has a different experience of it with different people so it means something different to them.

This is why i urge Doug1111 and anyone else to listen first ask questions later. Instead of being arrogant enough to think you know what you are talking about!

But that is my opinion and i hold it. I learned a lot from those Black women and men in my life so yes I respect them and revere them and thank them (and got an earful at times too LOL) .

=)

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 01:48:53 B. R.

JT, you have been making lots of good commentaries on here. I just think, if Abagond had to erase one of your comments , to be consistant with holding Bliff up to standards so he could be banned, its ok for you to take one for the team…I think that is what it is kind of about, at least how you should take it..

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 03:15:15 duckduckgoofs

I wasn’t aware abagond put darq and cleo in charge of comment policy. Next time I have a question I’ll be sure to ask you two first.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 03:20:59 darqbeauty

Don’t like what’s being said, or enforced, you’re welcome to leave the blog. This is Abagond’s blog. He can pick and choose at his discretion. Your whining doesn’t change that. If I didn’t like the way a blog was run, I would leave. I certainly don’t have a sense of entitlement to tell the blog owner what to do. Unlike some people 🙂

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 03:30:43 cleonette

Duck, if i were in charge, you would be banned so be happy with Abagond.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 03:35:51 duckduckgoofs

Do you have a problem with me?

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 05:03:15 abagond

@ JT

B.R. and Randy have the right attitude about the whole thing.

If I banned based on obnoxiousness you would be gone. I did not like, not one bit, your commenting on the FIrst Experience thread on another thread. That was the same slick move Bliff pulled. The only thing that saved you was that you were not on the blacklist.

If I knew then what I know now, I would have taken Doug and Randy off the list and put YOU on it. Doug and Randy disagree with me at the ideological level but at least they respect my wishes and do not give me a hard time about my rules. Unlike you,

You may think that unlike Doug and Randy that you are well-meaning and not racist. But they ALSO think they are well-meaning and not racist. So do most white people. So if I allowed you and not them it would be seen as rank favouritism and it would be much harder to preserve the thread as a safe space. It is hard enough as it is.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 05:05:19 abagond

@ Duck

Thank you for the list. I will review it.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 05:49:03 abagond

@ Duck

I deleted the first three as grey cases but the rest were fine – either because they were by people of colour or they were by whites talking about bannings or the idea of the thread and its comment policy.

So, to answer your question, so long as you say nothing about the comments on that thread you are fine. If you act as if you never read that thread you should be fine. What Bliff and JT did crossed the line since they were responding to what they had read there.

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on Thu May 3rd 2012 at 06:03:23 duckduckgoofs

Abagond

I appreciate the consideration. I was just just looking for some clarity on what the rules were.

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on Sat May 5th 2012 at 03:32:50 cleonette

No Duck, not a problem with you; however, I hate ignorance.

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on Sat May 5th 2012 at 21:05:12 grin and bear it

Sniff, sniff. There’s a faint aroma of “personal attacks” in the air. Perhaps it’s time for someone to be banned?

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/05/04/the-white-racist-guide-to-talking-to-blacks-about-race/#comment-127706

In the post alluded to above, Inconvenient Truth didn’t seem to be responding to any particular point or comment, but merely resulted to insulting one commenter’s intelligence, then suggested another was timid and lazy. And for what reason? It certainly didn’t further the discussion, nor was it to debate a point that either of the named commenters made.

Yes, there’s definitely a stench in the air. Please, Abagond, do your thing. It’s time.

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on Sun May 6th 2012 at 07:46:08 abagond

@ Grin

Unfortunately I have done little to shield Inconvenient from abuse so I cannot ban him for doing the same.

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on Wed May 9th 2012 at 01:17:34 abagond

It just supports simple ones.

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on Sat May 12th 2012 at 08:49:44 satanforce

Testing hyperlinks with “”

a href=google.com>”satanforce is almighty”>

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on Sat May 12th 2012 at 08:57:50 satanforce

I swear to God that I am a retard

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on Mon May 21st 2012 at 17:47:48 phoebeprunelle

ok

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on Sun Jun 17th 2012 at 22:13:16 tb

u have the best blog on the internet! are u on facebook or twitter so i can keep up?

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on Mon Jun 18th 2012 at 04:52:00 Parfum Bleu

Time for a change in usernames. I’m bored with Parfum Bleu. I’ll be Fiamma (Italian for ‘flame’ )…for a while anyway.

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on Fri Jul 13th 2012 at 10:16:00 Dahoman X

~~test~~

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on Fri Sep 14th 2012 at 09:25:30 der

Why not do a post about mixed race people

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on Sun Sep 16th 2012 at 22:56:12 mai7

This is very interesting to me and better than utube where people get angry when they don’t agree and start name calling. I won’t comment today on this subject but will be following it.

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on Sun Sep 16th 2012 at 23:08:50 mai7

Hi, Abagone. How do I change that mean ol’ icon you gave me. I’d like something more serene.

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on Mon Sep 17th 2012 at 00:07:43 abagond

@ mai7

You can set your avatar here:

https://en.gravatar.com/

It may take a few hours to take effect.

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on Wed Feb 13th 2013 at 04:13:19 Fiamma

@Abagond

Just a heads up: in the coming days if you see a new username with my old IP address (though I mostly use AOL, so I figure my IP address probably isn’t static), I’ve made a name change– no sock puppetry, or anything of that sort….

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on Sun Mar 3rd 2013 at 05:54:37 Caffeine & Nicotine

Hi Abagond

My current username is temporary. I plan to change it when I think one I like.

[For anyone who might be wondering — it’s just a name, as I was a long-term smoker but quit cold turkey 4 years ago this past December (if I can do it anyone can), and I’ve never been hooked on caffeinated drinks of any type….]

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on Wed Mar 6th 2013 at 18:47:28 Linda

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on Wed Mar 6th 2013 at 18:48:26 Linda

let me try again

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on Wed Mar 6th 2013 at 21:19:59 lifelearner

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on Wed Mar 6th 2013 at 21:21:38 King

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on Thu Mar 14th 2013 at 11:04:28 abagond

Note:

The way to disagree with someone is to disagee with their STATEMENTS, particularly the FACTS and REASONING that underlie them.

Not with their (guessed-at) motives.
Not with their (guessed-at) race.
Not with their apparent personal faults.
Not with their grammar or spelling.

NONE of those disproves the truth of what someone says.

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on Thu Mar 14th 2013 at 11:06:01 Kwamla

@ Abagond

I think you really need to revise your policy of simply deleting comments without explanation or warning. It simply sows and breeds feelings of animosity.

And it is certainly not an open and democratic way to administer a public forum. It may be your blog but showing simple courtesy to frequent commentators should never be beneath you.

There is obviously a long history here but you do yourself no favours by setting yourself up as Judge, Jury and Executioner!

Are these not simply the hallmarks of what we know and would call a Dictator?

It also demonstrates your degree of tolerance for freedom of expression the irony of which should not be lost on you on a blog which deals substantively with issues of racism…

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on Thu Mar 14th 2013 at 11:29:08 Kwamla

@ Abagond

What you’ve displayed in bold is a fair and reasonable approach to adopt. But not everyone may share this approach. There are many ways to disagree with someone besides this approach. Many of them we have seen taken up on this Blog

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/the-seven-levels-of-disagreement/

This is what allowing for freedom of expression is all about.

This doesn’t have to be a situation where anything and everything should be allowed to be expressed continuously. But it should at least be given the opportunity to be expressed in the first place.

In any public forum no one person needs to be: Judge, Jury and Executioner

But then I am just expressing my own view here on how to avoid the abuses of power we see reflected in our own societies and institutions.

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on Thu Mar 14th 2013 at 20:47:58 Herneith

@Abagond:

You can start by getting rid of the no swearing rule!

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on Thu Mar 14th 2013 at 22:10:10 B. R.

“I agree with everything you have written although I have skipped your posts. You know why? You are white, so therefore you know everything. No need to ‘debate’ you. How dare those culluds do that? As a self-loathing negro, you have my support 100%!! Respect, straight up!”

Straight up, Herneith, you got me all wrong, Im an equal oportunity brawling debator…I think there are a whole lot of other self loathing shades colors and hues that give exactly the same support as you when in my presence….

what ever you do, skip and dont read this link:

http://www.thecoutureexchange.com/

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on Fri Mar 29th 2013 at 20:46:58 Anna BAgwell

I love your blog, I agree with almost every thing you have to say. However, I think it’s a little racist that you assume all whites are racist hypocrites. ALthough it’s sadly true for many people, not everyone who’s white is a hypocrite.

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on Fri Mar 29th 2013 at 21:01:38 abagond

@ Anna BAgwell

“you assume all whites are racist “

I wrote a post about that:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/the-not-all-whites-argument/

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on Mon Aug 19th 2013 at 10:38:30 Moorish Prince

Testing HTML tags to see if they work in comments:

a
b

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on Sat Aug 24th 2013 at 22:27:51 abagond

@ Kiwi & Randy
@ Linda & xPraetorius
@ B.R. & Bulanik

Any comments between the above pairs will be deleted on sight.

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on Sun Aug 25th 2013 at 20:29:18 abagond

@ All

Until further notice:

1. All of xPraetorius’s comments will be moderated.

2. If he finds a way to avoid moderation, he will be banned instantly.

I take these measures because he has way more free time than I do and writes very long comments. While I am trying to catch up, other commenters are baying for his banning. It is like I am at the back of a crowd during a fight and can barely see what is going on.

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on Thu Aug 29th 2013 at 01:30:17 abagond

@ All

Additions to the Comment Policy:

1. I reserve the right to delete any comment that uses insulting language. “Racist” and “troll” do not count as insulting language.

2. When I declare something off topic, I will not retroactively delete comments by established commenters.

3. When I delete a comment by an established commenter, I will note the action and reason in this form: “@ <username> Comment deleted for <reason>.” At that point you can either appeal to my conscience or change the comment and resubmit.

Definitions:

Established commenter: Someone who has commented long enough and frequently enough that recognize their name. Examples: Sharina, Peanut, Gio, William Bentley, Jefe, King of Trouble, Da Jokah, etc.

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on Thu Aug 29th 2013 at 01:38:50 abagond

@ Kiwi & Randy
@ B.R. & Bulanik
@ xPraetorius & Linda
@ xPraetorius & Sharina

Any comments between the above pairs will be deleted on sight. They cannot talk about each other, though they can talk about each other’s opinions.

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on Fri Aug 30th 2013 at 12:28:46 abagond

@ Sharina @ Linda

Since xPraetorius is banned you may say whatever you like about him.

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on Fri Aug 30th 2013 at 13:49:24 Herneith

How about cussing the fool out?

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on Fri Aug 30th 2013 at 16:37:54 abagond

@ Herneith

Go for it. But note that it might become part of his “study”.

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on Sat Aug 31st 2013 at 02:12:07 Herneith

I sent the ar$ehole two obscene limericks after requesting he do a post on them, especially filthy ones. The two I sent him were particularly tame compared to the other ones I have perused the internet for. I went back several hours later and he deleted my comment! He is constant in that he has confirmed my impression of him as a goof and a turd, not necessarily in that order mind you.

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on Mon Sep 2nd 2013 at 01:02:49 abagond

Abbas,
Mr Satan,
Rebeca from Brazil,
Rosalinda,
Victor,
João Adécio,
Andros flamestrike,
abbasilvernight300

is banned for using seven sock puppets!

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on Mon Sep 2nd 2013 at 01:08:36 Sharina

WOW!!!

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on Mon Sep 2nd 2013 at 01:39:54 mary burrell

I knew something was fishy with that. But Abagond banned them. Good riddance.

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on Mon Sep 2nd 2013 at 01:42:47 mary burrell

I knew something fishy was up with that Abbas and Rebecca from brazil. I knew they were probably the same trolls. But I didn’t want to be the one screaming troll all the time.

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 01:10:06 MrDevil

@Abagond why you banned me? I live on a republic of students, have eight living with me.

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 01:18:47 Abbas

You let my girlfriend crying, she isn’t bad person. What you done? This is manner to handle this, banning?
I’m not using anymore abbasilvernight300(too lenght)
João Adécio is a friend Rebeca knowed and, unhappiness has lost his life one year ago in an car accident.
Now, Rosalinda? Hmmm someone in under the age of twelve put her hands on what not to pu(a girl with only twelve) I’ll inform her father.

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 01:24:35 Abbas

@abagond Yes, mrsatan is my colleague, I informed him about what you done!

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 01:33:30 abagond

@ Abbas

How I discovered your sock puppets is that Mr Satan sounded just like Rebeca. I went back and checked the IP addresses and sure enough they were the same. So save the sob story.

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 04:13:30 Brothawolf

This is one for the list of “Shake my head” moments.

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on Sat Sep 7th 2013 at 04:23:18 jefe

If they are banned, how can they still post comments?

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on Sun Sep 8th 2013 at 04:59:07 abagond

“White trash” and “trailer trash” are now moderated as racial slurs.

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on Mon Sep 9th 2013 at 17:55:14 Lonely Voice

Since my comment on Open Thread is stuck in moderation, I thought I would read your comment policy.
I am not sure if the link from Youtube I posted on open thread is obscene, yikes! I did not find it offensive, but I can see how others might. I’m sorry.
You can delete it if you like. I’ll be more cautious in the future.

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on Mon Sep 9th 2013 at 18:06:16 abagond

@ Lonely Voice

I moderate ALL YouTube links. If you do not put the link in parentheses, WordPress will embed the video. Which is cool – except on the longer threads, which can take forever to load if they have too much embedded video.

As a general practice, you should always put YouTube links in parentheses, like this:

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiQ7S38nKog)

It will still be moderated, but will probably go through quicker since I do not have to stop and edit it.

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on Tue Sep 10th 2013 at 15:07:56 Linda

So Sondis can make up LIES about me, call me “negress”, sellout and whitewashed and that’s OK

because I call him a girl, my comments get deleted.

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on Thu Sep 26th 2013 at 22:39:53 Pay It Forward

I’ve finally settled on a new username. Normally I like really girly usernames, but from now on I will be “Pay It Forward”.

If someone does you a good turn, you can either pay back, pay forward or both. Paying forward is especially nice as one might get a domino effect going by getting others in on the action!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward

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on Thu Sep 26th 2013 at 22:42:14 Pay It Forward

Oh, I forgot to mention that my username heretofore was “Fiamma”.

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on Thu Sep 26th 2013 at 22:49:20 mary burrell

@ Pay It Forward: That is one of my favorite movies.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 01:37:04 abagond

Tilmatar,
Naija Girl,
Asplund,
FirstGaySatanist

is banned for using four sock puppets.

Troll begone!

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 05:31:43 TruthAboutTheSituation

Kiwi-

The reason it seems weird us that I’m not a troll. It just took me a while to stick with a name I liked. If you notice, I never caused a problem under those names or any name for that matter. My girl used my pic and Abagond is using that as an excuse to try and block me. The real problem is I have a phd in history and am not easily dismissed. Thus the ridiculously untrue attacks on me as a white supremacist, troll, whatever. I’m actually anti- racist and only 3/4 white. Some people on here just can’t stand being taught.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 05:44:55 King

Abbas,
Mr Satan,
Rebeca from Brazil,
Rosalinda,
Victor,
João Adécio,
Andros flamestrike,
abbasilvernight300

is banned for using seven sock puppets!

And He asked him, “What is thy name?” And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion: for we are many.”

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 05:51:31 mstoogood4yall

@ king

rofl. speaking of legion where is he

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 05:57:06 King

Dunno, I miss his comments though!

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 05:59:04 abagond

@ Asplund / TruthAboutTheSituation

Wow, going for sock puppet #5 AFTER I banned you. Proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are Bad News.

Your sock puppets were not your first offence – both you and your “girl”, your “chick”, used racial slurs, derailed threads, insulted people out of the blue. Threads have topics, but you and Miss Girl are too special for that – you two think you can just shit on my threads and talk about whatever you damn well please. When I first read Miss Girl I thought she was white. Nothing wrong with being white, but in this case it was the first sign that maybe she was a sock puppet.

Even if all that was somehow an honest mistake, your coming back under a NEW sock puppet after I banned you certainly is not.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:09:00 mstoogood4yall

* grabs popcorn http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac187/rhdthree/GIFS/popcornsjpg.gif

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:14:20 King

Might not be much to watch, mstoogood4yall.

Abagond’s ban hammer kung fu is strong.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:14:48 Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit

Hello Abagond. I was wondering about something. I have commented on your blog using three names so far. The first one was the name I was using when I was blogging. That blog has now been deleted and I haven’t used that name to comment again. The other two names are this one and some random name I came up with to comment some time ago. The tricky part comes up when I realized that one computer has one name saved and the other computer has another one saved.

Should I select just one and go with it, or do you have another suggestion?

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:15:13 Confused Reader

Abagond.-

A sock puppet is deceptive. My identity here is pure honesty.

As for my participation. Yeah maybe I ventured off topic a little- but no more than the rest and when you noticed it I ALWAYS corrected it, out of respect for your writing. My admiration was a little misplaced because this blog can’t tolerate a difference of opinion.

I’ve also never intentionally used a racial slur In my life. If I did it was in quoting a historical source or someone else’s views. I’m not aware of any one instance of my doing that.

I didn’t derail threads either. To the contrary I beefed them up with discussion. And any insulting I did, was mild relative to the accusations leveled towards myself, always first and always out of frustration. And when I veered a little off topic, it was ALWAYS when someone else dragged me there.

Again this is not a “sock puppet.” As for Rosé “Naija girl” you’d have to take that up with her. What she said doesn’t have any bearing on my history arguments.

I am at a loss. I actually was beginning to think you found my comments Interesting, considering your replies. I’ve been reading this blog religiously for months.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:17:50 King

^ the battle continues

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pdsZ3wnElo)

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:20:16 mstoogood4yall

@ king
“Abagonds ban hammer is kung fu strong”

u mean like this http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kung+fu+fighting+song&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=FE2394F953334C7AF91BFE2394F953334C7AF91B

rofl, man this is like 101 Dalmatians except instead of puppies its 101 sock puppets lol.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:21:03 mstoogood4yall

Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit

rofl don’t feel bad u aint the only one that needs to selectanameandstickwithit.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:21:58 Asplund

Show me one instance whee I’ve had a “sock puppet?”

Tilmatar- a name I considered using but decided it sounded too weird.

First gay satanist- a name I thought would be funny when I was drunk. I made one comment about Weezy with that name.

Asplund- the name I kept with.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:22:08 Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit

Lol. 🙂

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:23:51 Asplund

Missroogoodfortall-

Hell I am being banned for it. No warning or anything. There are white supremacists on here yet Abagond bans me. Crazy

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:27:46 Asplund

And I made Rose stop posting once everyone had a damn fit, so don’t hold me accountable for that. She needs to come back. After all you banned me not her.
Stupid because stevia the sweetest person I know.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:31:31 mstoogood4yall

^ I know what u mean I get in trouble if my room isn’t clean but oh my brother has his room looking like those febreze commercials but he don’t get in trouble I do. its so unfair I mean dang I don’t get a warning either, they could warn me before they come in my room idc if it is their house and they own it and can make the rules and I am supposed to follow . I mean the gall of some ppl smh

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:35:22 Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit

Maybe I am being too lenient here, but if imitation is a problem wouldn’t it be possible for the person to use a SPECIFIC name/user combo and mention to Abagond that he should delete/disregard comments from the same IP that has another name?

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:37:07 mstoogood4yall

abagond asslund isn’;t a sock puppet he obviously pimpin, got rose and naji girl posting on the same computer that is a player move. he11 rose and naji could be twins and he getting that double mint twin double ur pleasure double the fun treatment and u hating on it. tsk tsk. lol

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:38:27 Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit

I suspect that you may be exaggerating.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:41:23 abagond

@ Ms Good

LMAO!

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:48:08 Asplund

Now the comments are just childish, mean-spirited, and unprovoked. Ms- when did u ever utter one unkind word toward you? Yes I’d expect a warning. Most blog owners give out such.

Rose and “naija” are the same person. The latter is her handle. I really regret introducing her to the site now.

Lets get down to basics. She hasn’t posted on here in a long time to my knowledge so we know she isn’t really a concern with this ban. This ban us about me and my arguments. It’s not a very sportsmanlike move from my perspective.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 06:48:41 mstoogood4yall

rofl http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=turkey+on+rover+dangerfield&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=9581B41021047454A6289581B41021047454A628

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 07:06:21 Asplund

Abagond was it that bad?

How long were you itching to find something to get me banned? Was it as early as my “spotlight history” posts?

I endured a lot of attacks based on emotion, a ton of Intellectual dishonesty in order to bring some facts to that thread. Same with the thread on Spain. Here I am getting blamed for other people veering off-topic. If you notice, in threads the one time you pointed out I went off topic, the blame was placed on me even though I didn’t take it there but was responding to prior commenters. I even contributed a good deal toward a discussion on secondary education and African history.

Anyone can note my courtesy on these boards. Hell I’m still holding out for civility and the repairing of things.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 07:27:22 abagond

@ Asplund

I will give you a second chance. Here’s the deal:

1. Read the comment policy. There is link to it at the top of each page on this blog. Ignorance is not going to be an excuse. If it says something is a racial slur, it is a racial slur for the purposes of this blog. It is not up to you. “Intent” does not matter.

2. You will be under a microscope for a while, probation, probably for a week or two, until I feel confident that you are not going to go troll on me. You will NOT be given the same leeway as more established commenters. Because you have raised suspicions, you have to be beyond suspicion.

3. Stick to Asplund as your name. If you want to change your name, make it crystal clear that you are doing that – otherwise it will seen as a sock puppet.

4. Rose goes and any of your other lady friends. Anything coming from your IP address will be considered to come from you. That is just the way it has to be. Otherwise any troll can just say, “Oh, that was my girlfriend / cousin / roommate.”

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 07:28:17 abagond

Asplund is unbanned.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 07:37:04 Asplund

Sounds good to me. Thank you.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 09:42:37 Rick Buddhuu

Took me a while to get my username a$$ in gear.

When I commented via my FB profile login my username was toooooooooooooo long (Rick Marauderdad Buddhuu Cadger). Then I posted logging in with an old WordPress account and I think I was either Buddhuu or Rick. When I changed my blog to my own domain hosting I had to change stuff again so my username didn’t link to the old blog.

I tried to keep it clear, but I was pretty disorganised there for a while. The current username will stay. Apologies if I annoyed anyone.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 09:54:08 abagond

@ I Need

If you pick a new name, just announce it when you do so that there is no confusion.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 13:51:18 Linda

wow, I step out to make money and come back to a madhouse 🙂

Asplund, sorry darling, but I am not so petty to wish someone banned just because they disagree with me — your words, tone and actions seemed very suspicious and similar to past trolls — plus your quick response when you realized your “girlfriend” answered for you.

The fact that NaijaGirl responded to me and spoke in “firs-tperson” as if she was you, is Definitely suspicious… especially if that person (Naijagirl) was very Rude and derogatory to people on another post.

I had defended NaijaGirl when everyone else thought she was a Troll — so I have every right to be “not pleased” when her actions make her seem to be someone who says he is a “dude” and “white, kind of” on a totally different thread.

You personally come off “Very Eurocentric” – so yes, I called you a race realist because you sound like one… but no malice went into my exposing your slip-up… I just felt I should let Sharina and the others know her/their radar(s) were not broken.

but if you say that you are not a race-realist or an irate Nigerian woman, I’ll go with that and we can keep on disagreeing/ debating on whatever topic you choose.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 14:10:51 Herneith

And He asked him, “What is thy name?” And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion: for we are many.”

I had him pegged as a minion of Cthulu.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 14:13:39 Herneith

@asplund:

Are you related to Thad or no_slappz?

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 18:19:29 sharina

@ Linda

Regardless of what he says I have doubts that it was even his girlfriend.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 19:44:36 Asplund

Yall have this idea that internet trolls are more powerful than they are. First of all they don’t generally put much effort into posts. Secondly, they cant really do much damage as they can be banned at any point. No reason to have a discussion over someone’s identity.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 20:00:07 Pay It Forward

“Yall”? You have family the South? With your username etc., I was thinking you must be Swedish.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 20:01:04 Pay It Forward

*You have family FROM the South?*

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 20:08:38 mary burrell

@ Pay It Forward: I thought the name Asplund was Swedish as well.

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on Sat Sep 28th 2013 at 20:10:32 mary burrell

@Pay It Forward: “Yall” lol!

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 05:26:46 sharina

@ Asplund

Who called you a troll. I think you are borderline, but troll is still out for verdict.

“First of all they don’t generally put much effort into posts”—Wrong. There are different types of trolls and depending on what type of damage they want to do will depend on the effort they will put into it.

“Secondly, they cant really do much damage as they can be banned at any point.”—Wrong. They have to do something to be banned. They are not banned simple on disagreeing or calamity. Read the comment policy and it will tell you the reasons. One in which you recently violated.

“No reason to have a discussion over someone’s identity.”–True because you can pretend to be how many people you want to be. Just don’t let abagond catch you next time.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 05:29:00 sharina

Personally I think it is common curtsey to tell people when you change your name. Especially on a blog you claim to be a regular to and want people to recognize you. In short i smell a rat.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 05:56:46 Asplund

Sharina et al:

Still talking about me eh?

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 08:55:10 Asplund

Pretty funny that on a predominately african American forum my “y’all” would be noted. For those interested, and since who I am matters a great deal, I’m from West Virginia. Mother is Choctaw. My father is from Finland. I only date non- American women, of any race, thus my showing this site to others.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 08:56:48 Asplund

Also I have up say before I shut up, the herd mentality behind ganging up on me is a little disturbing. Does t happen on some of the other blogs I lost at, such as Heartiste and Return of Kings.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 11:23:07 v8driver

heartiste just deleted my comments i haven’t been there since abagond’s thread on him. you like that crap? i don’t need some type of “DENNIS” system to get girls.
return of kings? huh let’s see, i never heard of that one before let’s look here a sample thread:
“How To Control Your Woman’s Diet” oh. well i have problems getting them to eat because well nevermind about all that, sheesh, if she can cook its a good thing. another mysognistic manly man site? ugh dude i though you have a nice girlfriend

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 11:59:10 Asplund

I read all sorts of blogs, some of which say some crazy things. I’m currently big on the blog of this conspiracy theorist from Kenya.

I bring those up because those blogs are known for savage comments. This blog is generally regarded as being milder in tone I think. Just my opinion.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 13:46:26 v8driver

@asplund about the mall attack?

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 14:18:45 Asplund

Yeah apparently this guy claims the mall and twin towers were owned by the same guy.

Btw, in your profile pic you resemble James Hetfield of Metallica.

Abagond sorry for the chit chat in your comment policy thread. Didn’t plan on it.

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on Sun Sep 29th 2013 at 14:53:47 v8driver

move it over to open thread dude

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:06:46 sharina

@ Asplund

I am not talking about you but to you. Another epic fail. 🙂

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:20:57 sharina

@ Asplund

“the herd mentality behind ganging up on me is a little disturbing”—It is not herd mentality but rather you got yourself into some debates with people…lost and decided that it was better to try and “shame” or “whine” your way out of owning up to it.

You made some claims you can’t prove, you spent too much time trying to read minds, went off topic, and then got caught in the use of sock puppets. That is no ones fault but yours. If you want to debate then debate, but the things I listed have put you in a situation of no credibility and people will treat you as such with good reason.

Instead of blaming them for suspecting a person who talked to them and treated them the way you did try owning up to your failures…and thank your girlfriend for bring so much suspicion on you.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:22:10 Asplund

Sharina

WTF?

At least your desperate tirades about my sexuality were entertaining. U can’t make sense if that though.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:24:05 sharina

@Asplund

Where did I talk about your sexuality? Oh the failure! ROFL

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:26:13 sharina

I make sense but you can’t keep up. Which is why you are still failing. LMFAO

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:31:01 Asplund

I think when you told me not to let my mascara run would be a good example.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:33:45 Asplund

Read the above daughter.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 00:42:19 sharina

@ Asplund

oh! so you finally caught up. I thought according to you I said I massacred you. LOL. Anyway that statement actually has little or nothing to do with your sexuality in my book. It has to do with your whining (which you did a lot of). On top of that one statement does not equal a tirade. Try again.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 01:09:06 Asplund

Sharina

You need to quit hatin- plain and simple.

I haven’t lost a single round of a single discussion on here.

I also never tried to shame any one. You attacked me as an individual totally unprovoked, with no basis to your claim.

How about you stop talking about daddy Asplund and actually address the points I made which you have so far tried to act like you didn’t see.

My premise: people who believe interracial relationships are wrong are racist bigots. People who oppose interracial relationships discriminate on the basis of race. People who oppose interracial relationships demean the unions from which multiracial people emerge.

Look up what I posted and you tried to hide. Look up that Louisiana judge who refused to marry a black man and white woman. If you’ll tell me you agree with that judge’s ruling, and that the vast majority of people are wrong on this issue, ill leave you alone. Have some integrity.

And also I’ve never put words into anyone’s mouth. I’ve pointed out the logical conclusions of their arguments to reveal their weaknesses. Educated people know how to do that.

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on Mon Sep 30th 2013 at 01:49:34 sharina

@ Asplund

“You need to quit hatin- plain and simple.”—Hate on what. A small man with a small mind that can’t keep up with simple things.

“I haven’t lost a single round of a single discussion on here.”—I here they have drugs for these types of delusions

“How about you stop talking about daddy Asplund and actually address the points I made which you have so far tried to act like you didn’t see. “—I highly doubt a man with your level of inadequacies could measure up to anyone’s daddy but do dream. As for you points not being addressed…more delusion on your part. Not only did I address your points at length, I watched you engage in exactly what I said you would. Deflecting. Because after I addressed your points you managed to come back with nothing.

Your premise is an opinion….not a fact. You have provided nothing to show it as a fact other then you opinion.

“Look up what I posted and you tried to hide. “—How did I try to hide? I never denied a Louisiana Judge refusal to marry a black man and white woman, but this is not proof or a solidification of what you claim as your premise.

“If you’ll tell me you agree with that judge’s ruling, and that the vast majority of people are wrong on this issue, ill leave you alone. Have some integrity. “—Can you comprehend or am I just too much for you to handle. I don’t nor have I ever had a problem with interracial marriages or any type of marriages for that matter. . I’m married to a Mexican moron. Said this several times throughout this exchange and you have not gotten it yet.

“And also I’ve never put words into anyone’s mouth. I’ve pointed out the logical conclusions of their arguments to reveal their weaknesses. Educated people know how to do that.”—Actually you did. You mentioned your penis on a thread where I never brought it up (claiming I thought it). what does that have to do with logic? If anything you are a joke that keeps on getting funnier by the minute. You know if you are the new generation of educated then I pity the future seriously.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 00:03:39 mary burrell

@ LEGION: Hello, Hi there, HEY!!

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 00:42:37 mary burrell

@ Legion: I am good, Yes, Miss truth, is not blogging now.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 01:26:50 v8driver

me and tbt/diary never saw eye to eye much, it seems like she has moved out to the boonies and forsaken society to a large degree

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 01:31:06 v8driver

wb legion

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 01:40:24 sharina

I don’t want to get too excited but it legion back?

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 01:43:26 Adeen

Legion

You are back! Hooray from this young woman right here! How are you? BTW I am still mad about the Trayvon Martin issue.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 02:39:21 sharina

@ Legion

Well we were a bit worried about you, but I am glad that things are better and to see you commenting again. 🙂

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 03:01:36 King

Welcome back Legion, old friend 😉

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 03:42:33 King of Trouble

Nice to see you commenting again Legion.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 05:25:53 Asplund

Sharina-

Boo you are gonna have to get right. Look if you think people who are opposed to IRR are not bigots, I gotta tell you, that’s discrimination, and a violation of another person’s right to both freedom of association and a denial of someone else’s love.

That’s why the LA judge’s ruling is part of it guy. Dude’s a bigot. You know it now. Don’t act triflin over nothing.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 07:19:16 Bulanik

@ Legion, sweetie 😀

How I missed you…

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 07:19:54 Bulanik

…I am not alone in that, obviously!!

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 08:01:35 Asplund

On second thought, as I think more about this, I can see your pov, all joking aside. There might be some circumstances in which a person could oppose such for non-bigoted reasons. But really, concerns about bigotry would be something to consider in these cases.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 12:00:51 sharina

@ Asplund

I am right. So right that I have you scrambling(looking dumb in the process) to make a comeback. 🙂

“Look if you think people who are opposed to IRR are not bigots”—I didn’t tell you what I thought of those people. What I did say was I am married to a Mexican so why would I agree with the judges ruling. On second thought I did make countless hints that I did not agree with it, but I guess when you are losing or rather have lost an argument then the next best step is to make up what the person said. Did it work for you?

“Look if you think people who are opposed to IRR are not bigots, I gotta tell you, that’s discrimination, and a violation of another person’s right to both freedom of association and a denial of someone else’s love.”—Please do explain to us all how what I think violates a person right of freedom and denies them love? I have got to hear your explanation of this because this is a riot. You should be a comedian. I mean really. Is there some legal precedent for my thoughts? Seeing as you got my thoughts wrong I am curious on how this works.

“That’s why the LA judge’s ruling is part of it guy. Dude’s a bigot. You know it now. Don’t act triflin over nothing.”—How do I know it when I can’t read minds? How do you know it when you can’t read minds? If anything your stupidity is trifling. For anyone to claim to have such high degree of knowledge yet can’t manage to comprehend or read one statement. You need to hand in your credentials and never ever mention them again because you make anyone that holds the same look bad.

“On second thought, as I think more about this, I can see your pov, all joking aside.”—Awww and here I thought I would get a good joke from you. You don’t have to see my point of view. It is and was not a matter of points of views. You made and claimed a fact. You failed to prove it as a fact. You are still deflecting from proving it as a fact. Post after Post after post is not going to help you save face. You either need to prove your so called facts or concede they were opinions. Otherwise do not continue to converse with me on any level. I don’t like liars and cheats.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 16:12:45 Asplund

Sharina- I’d still like to meet you halfway, but I don’t think that’s not possible. I don’t want to make you look bad on the blog, because I know it’s important to you for social reasons.

My original premise: People who are opposed to irr are bigoted.

Here’s my syllogism demonstrating it:

A: People have the right to love who they want. This isn’t subjective. I don’t believe in subjective morality. This is an objective human right. A violation of this principle is a violation of U.N. standards as well as the ethical standards of many major world religions.

B. Because there is a universal human right to love who you want, those who oppose irr are discriminating against people based on race. They are opposed to people loving whom they choose, because of that person’s race/ethnic/religion/national identity, etc.

If A is true, and people have the right to love whom they choose, and B is true, that people who deny them that right are discriminating based on race, well……..

C: I also believe that people who discriminate based on race are bigoted.

Therefore if A is true, and B is true, and C is true,then people opposed to irr are bigoted.

And come on with the judge argument now. You know that judge was a racist neo-confederate. I mean, I guess because i lived in LA I had more exposure but still, everybody knows what’s up with that guy. He claimed he made that ruling “for the children.” Everybody knows that fool doesn’t care about the damn kids.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 18:04:40 abagond

luckylarrysilverstein / Pip Power

YOU ARE BANNED for using a sock puppet and for repeatedly spamming my comment sections with articles, showing no sign of having read the post, much less being human.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 22:33:54 sharina

@Asplund

Why should I agree now to meet you half way? I am not the one claiming an opinion as a fact. You are and there is no need to meet half way if your facts were in fact proven….which I am still waiting on.

“I don’t want to make you look bad on the blog, because I know it’s important to you for social reasons.”—Your free to try, but I think you excel at making yourself look bad already, so nothing you do to me could possibly measure up to you.

I know what your premise is. You repeating it won’t make it anymore of a fact than my 6 years old repeating her ideas of being a princess when she is older. You made your premise a fact. You have not proven it to be such. So should I proceed to embarrass you by quoting your claims of facts and how you presented % value to this?

A, B, and C is nothing more than you elaborated opinion. Might be put up fancy but still not a fact.

“And come on with the judge argument now.”—I didn’t make an argument about the judge. You brought him in. i think it is time you take your meds. 🙂

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 22:48:47 sharina

@ MrSatan

Adeen is a she and I thought you were banned.

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on Wed Oct 9th 2013 at 23:09:09 Adeen

@Mr.Satan

I am a young, Black woman growing up in a White town and I don’t like White people. I had bad experiences with White Americans. I am not insane and if you had repeated bad experiences with this group of people, you wouldn’t like them either

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 01:06:30 Asplund

Sharina-

Zero portions of my syllogism came from anyone’s opinion. I’m going off of universal ethical laws- laws acknowledged by the U.N. and U.S. Supreme Court.

It’s just basic logic. If you believe it’s wrong to discriminate based on race, then, well, it’s wrong to discriminate based on race when we talk about whom we are allowed to marry. That isn’t ” my opinion,” that’s one ethical principle logically derived from another.

Is there any part of that chain of reasoning you deny? You gotta deal with the substance I’m bringing. When a syllogism is presented the logical counter argument is to disprove the syllogism.

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 01:31:53 sharina

@ Asplund

“Zero portions of my syllogism came from anyone’s opinion. I’m going off of universal ethical laws- laws acknowledged by the U.N. and U.S. Supreme Court.”—So then provide these laws that say people opposed to interracial marriages are bigots or some scientific research that proves this to be true. Put a link in here or something. You are trying to tie your opinion into a fact or legal matter. There is a difference here and it is almost sad that you don’t see it.
An opinion is defined as a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
Your argument is about as logical as me saying Americans are bigots and that is a fact. Then trying to use an example of a few to prove it as a fact or in your case claim that “laws acknowledged by the U.N. and U.S. Supreme Court.”
Another thing you need to realize is acknowledging something does not make it a fact. You would have to go into the minds of all people against interracial marriages and prove their reasoning to be based on bigotry.

“You gotta deal with the substance I’m bringing. “—You are not bringing any. You have an ego that is not allowing you to see how flawed you are in your supposed reasoning is. Here are two claims you made and the two I am asking you to prove with links or something other than what you believe. If you can’t then you should not have made such a claim.
“You can walk into any university, government building, and most churches in this country and 99% of the people inside would be horrified at the thought of prohibiting interracial relationships”—Yours words. Prove it. As well as proof of your premise to be a fact.

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 05:50:27 Asplund

Sharina-

Loving vs. Virginia, 1967. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that laws forbidding interracial relationships violated the constitutional rights of Americans, because such laws discriminated on the basis of race.

This is what the Supreme Court presented and as a result anti-interracial marriage laws were struck down throughout the country.

The Supreme Court ruled that those who sought to forbid interracial marriages were discriminating based on race.

People who discriminate on the basis of race are bigots. Therefore……….

“You would have to go into the minds of all people against interracial marriages and prove their reasoning to be based on bigotry.”

Not really, as opposing interracial marriages is a form of discrimination, which is itself sufficient to determine that bigotry exists. If we embraced your logic, we could defend people who engaged in lynchings. After all, it’s not as though we can go into the minds of Emmet Till’s murderers.

“Yours words. Prove it. As well as proof of your premise to be a fact”

Sharina show me someone in public life who has come out and advocated against interracial marriages. How many can you find in mainstream society? I found you an example. You refused to acknowledge it and tried to act like my including it was some out of the blue red herring, when in reality I was trying to demonstrate this very point.

The judge in Louisiana was denounced almost universally as a bigot, just like everyone else in the public eye who promotes discriminatory thinking,.

I’ve laid out a pretty solid case here. After all, there’s a reason anti-racist activists suffered to bring down racist laws..

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 07:59:03 abagond

I deleted some posts by Mr Satan. He, aka Rebeca from Brazil, is banned:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/#comment-190314

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 08:02:33 abagond

@ Legion

That is a good idea. I could repost the more popular posts and close their old threads.

@ Legion @ All

Which threads do you find too hard to comment on because their threads are too long?

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 08:06:33 abagond

OFF TOPIC: Interracial relationships

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 12:11:34 sharina

Here is my response to your post in the proper thread.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/06/07/my-position-on-relationships-between-black-women-and-white-men/#comment-196012

I will say this…Unless you are going to provide a link or further proof to your claims then you need to vamoose. It is embarrassing and a crying shame that you are failing in the way you are. I guess you figured comments in here will cause you the least amount of embarrassment, but whatever.

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on Thu Oct 10th 2013 at 22:15:57 sharina

furthermore Abagond has a new thread for this type of talk so here is the link to my comment there.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/interracial-relationships/#comment-196078

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on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 00:28:24 abagond

@ Asplund @ Sharina: Comments deleted for being off topic.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 00:39:40 mary burrell

The thread I find hard to comment on is Why do whites, fear and hate and demonize black people and white woman’s tears.

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on Fri Oct 11th 2013 at 00:48:35 sharina

@abagond

I have no objections to that.

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on Tue Oct 15th 2013 at 13:01:09 abagond

HonestJohn / Rick Miller banned for using sock puppets.

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on Tue Oct 15th 2013 at 13:09:56 abagond

sarah / selina banned for using sock puppets

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on Wed Oct 16th 2013 at 11:40:05 abagond

PersonaNonGrata
IJustWannaSay
MoodScope
Shanda
SheilaG
is banned for using sock puppets

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on Wed Oct 16th 2013 at 23:24:20 Sharina

@ Abagond

If you are to allow an individual to call me a b*tch (I know you deleted it later) and then to make remarks in regard to sexual acts with my husband then is it fair to say you will allow me to make at least one equally derogatory comment without it being deleted?

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on Thu Oct 17th 2013 at 21:36:05 B. R.

Abagond , are “recent comments” section not on anymore? Or is it just overloaded ?

I think I tied in burying tap dancing in a political agenda in the black movement in the 60’s, very well with interracial relationships and the political agenda in the black movement in the 60’s … dont you.?

.I mean , seriously, thanks for giving me the chance…Id like to think I made good on it…

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on Sun Oct 27th 2013 at 09:29:08 abagond

Negro bed wench, pink and pinkskins are now counted as slurs

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on Sun Oct 27th 2013 at 09:31:38 wordynerdygirl

@ abagond Thanks for your fairness.

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on Sun Oct 27th 2013 at 09:39:03 B. R.

I commend you also, Abagond, especialy about the slur on black women, Mbetti can call me what he likes(you can erase the moderation, i used the word counted as slurs)

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on Mon Oct 28th 2013 at 02:19:08 mary burrell

Thanx, I don’t like that word NBW either.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 17:53:37 abagond

@ Asplund

You are banned.

The fact that you found a way avoid moderation and used it shows that you have no interest in following rules, that you think you are above the rules. That makes you a menace to free discussion, a vandal, a troll.

All further comments from you and any responses to them will be deleted.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 18:02:45 abagond

@ Legion

I used to have no comment policy at all. It was not a big issue because I did not get many comments. In fact, I saw blogs that had a comment policy as authoritarian, but now I know why. I have learned the hard way.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 18:15:13 Sharina

Oh man Abagond. I just got around to responding to his nonsense. 😦

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 18:22:39 Sharina

@Legion

True. Our exchange was across three threads. LOL

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 19:01:30 mstoogood4yall

oh snap he banned….. again… ok.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 20:13:27 Sharina

@ Legion

Thanks. 🙂

@ Mstoodgood4yall

Yep again. Though he never should have been unbanned in the first place.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 20:26:13 mstoogood4yall

^ yep I think the reason he was unbanned was because of his persistence and changing names like crazy. I think he’ll be back under a new name like he did the first time he was banned smh rofl. but even if he is gone it will always be a new troll waiting in the darkness to come out in the next few days or weeks.

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on Wed Nov 6th 2013 at 22:02:46 abagond

Unbanning him was a mistake – his Nigerian girlfriend was about as real as his Choctaw mother.

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on Sat Nov 9th 2013 at 17:04:49 Ebonymonroe

@Abagond

Abagond, all of my comments keep taking, like 24 hours to appear. I’ve emailed you about it. They’re not going to moderation, otherwise it would say, and when I’ve tried to repost (initially assuming they hadn’t gone through at all) I page that says something along the lines of “this is a duplicate, it seems you’ve already posted” comes up. Are all my comments going to spam or something? Does anybody else get this problem? This just started happening yesterday, (on Friday).

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on Sat Nov 9th 2013 at 17:22:47 abagond

@ Ebonymonroe

It is just you. Unfortunately, your IP address partly matches that of someone I banned, so your posts are considered spam. Since it has been at least a year since they tried to post, I will un-blacklist their IP address, fingers crossed.

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on Sat Nov 9th 2013 at 17:44:45 Ebonymonroe

Aww man! Thanks Abagond, much appreciated.

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on Tue Nov 12th 2013 at 16:43:40 Da Jokah

test

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on Sun Nov 17th 2013 at 03:36:14 Sharina

@ Legion

You changed your pic? Want to make sure it is you and not Asplund attempting an impersonation.

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on Sun Nov 17th 2013 at 22:53:42 Sharina

@Legion

The situation with Jorbia and the link you provided serves as a great test. Only so many would know about that. 🙂

I better get some type of pic gravatar thing going before I end up an aslpund victim.

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on Sun Nov 17th 2013 at 23:55:02 abagond

Colalover is not Jorbia, but she is Delores:

colalover / Delores is banned for using a sock puppet.

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on Sun Nov 17th 2013 at 23:57:57 mary burrell

@ Abagond: I don’t know who Delores is, but she must be a white woman. Causing all kinds of trouble. Look at the how she has stirred the hornet’s nest. She is somewhere laughing.

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 02:03:55 Sharina

@ abagond

I never believed it to be Jorbia. Even if she did not leave on the best terms I don’t believe she would do that.

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 02:06:39 Sharina

@mary burrell

“Look at the how she has stirred the hornet’s nest.”—uh oh Mary. You may not want to say that. It implies the room has a hive mentality. LOL

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 02:17:52 mary burrell

@ Sharina: I never thought it was her, Jorbia, even if she was mean had class, and she was eloquent in her writing. This Delores not so much.

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 02:18:42 abagond

^^ LMAO

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 02:19:39 mary burrell

@ Sharina: Well we certainly want to guard against hive/herd mentality. As we are not the borg.

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 03:08:28 Sharina

@ Mary

Even though I won’t say we have a hive mentality, I will say that I noticed that certain behaviors are more or less acceptable depending on who does it.

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on Mon Nov 18th 2013 at 03:18:24 mary burrell

@ Sharina: Agreed.

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on Thu Nov 21st 2013 at 07:08:25 abagond

Liiam / Vader is banned for using sock puppets

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on Fri Nov 22nd 2013 at 22:44:36 Sharina

Another one?! What is up with these people?

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on Tue Nov 26th 2013 at 04:00:43 Sharina

@ Abagond

You may want to enforce the sock puppet rule. Some trolls have taken it upon themselves to take advantage of it and openly use sock puppets. October has two he is currently using.

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on Fri Dec 6th 2013 at 14:00:50 abagond

@ Legion

Example:

This:

<img src=”http://25.media.tumblr.com/64a77c06413bc6e0cd2dd6a60267c747/tumblr_mp052xH2Ga1qenlr5o1_250.gif” />

will look like this:

Make sure the URL for the image is between double quotes.

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on Sun Dec 8th 2013 at 00:31:43 abagond

Trinidad African is banned as an Asplund sock puppet.

I am deleting all his comments.

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on Mon Dec 23rd 2013 at 04:14:56 abagond

twat is now a moderated word.

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on Mon Dec 23rd 2013 at 04:21:55 King

Trinidad African is banned as an Asplund sock puppet.

Nice call, Herneith.

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on Thu Jan 2nd 2014 at 21:18:19 abagond

@ Legion

Done. Only two of your comments are left on the White Santa thread.

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on Fri Jan 3rd 2014 at 05:58:48 Legion

Thank you.

Did you get my email? With regard to the email, I don’t mind leaving the two comments in the White Santa thread. And the rest can just be done as per the email, thanks.

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on Fri Jan 3rd 2014 at 07:15:27 Legion

… don’t erase my comments in “woman” either; last exception, I promise.

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on Sun Jan 5th 2014 at 03:20:50 Legion

Ok, really, really the last exception. Leave my comments intact, in the following thread:

Europe is a Continent
—————————————–

Thank you for your patience Abagond.

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on Tue Jan 7th 2014 at 15:40:00 abagond

“ofay” is now a moderated word.

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on Tue Jan 7th 2014 at 19:36:36 v8driver

thanks, buddy

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on Wed Jan 8th 2014 at 08:59:27 Pay it Forward

Abagond, your stoicism is enviable (nah, it’s got nothing to do with the word “of@y”). 😉

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on Wed Jan 15th 2014 at 17:36:19 B. R.

Abagond , if you can tell me why my comment has been sitting in moderation for hours now, I can at least try to correct it..

Other comments sat for a day or so..if there is something wrong , ive got to know, so I can change it

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on Fri Jan 17th 2014 at 01:55:14 Pay it Forward

Abagond, this is in request that you not delete any of my recent comments in the thread under your “Woman” post or in the Open thread (that is, if you haven’t deleted them already).

I have learned from a past mistake that when dealing with a charming and manipulative pathological liar, it is best not to deleted any comment of mine that directly concerns said liar, or comments made by said liar.

And, too, I have learned my lesson in attempting to take the high road with people who fight dirty (which includes known liars), as they will definitely try to make that work to their advantage as well.

Thanks in advance.

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on Sun Jan 19th 2014 at 20:39:35 anonymous

how do i have my name removed on a comment i recently made about black women that white people think are beautiful?

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on Mon Jan 20th 2014 at 15:01:51 B. R.

Abagond, people ought to be held accountable on here for lying on here , about what somebody else has said…they should be forced to produce quotes to prove their point

Kiwi has blatently lied , saying I said things I never said

Like I associeted Mosh with Islamic terrorists, Jefe with Asian Communists, and tried to say I was anti Asian male..all lies, all muk raking slimy below the belt smearing falsehoods . Which is what people with weak agendas do

I demand he officialy produce one quote I said to prove it , or , delete his lies, or let it officialy be known he is a liar, because this is really starting to head for bs land

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on Mon Jan 20th 2014 at 15:07:02 B. R.

So why the moderation? There is no word on there that is a banned word

What is this PraetX X shackle you got on me, Abagond?

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on Mon Jan 20th 2014 at 16:00:26 abagond

@ B.R.

I have had to put several of your comments in moderation because they were rude and insulting. So for the time being all your comments will automatically go to moderation till I have time to sort through them.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 11:21:31 abagond

@ B.R.

Your comments are no longer automatically moderated.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 12:54:13 Sharina

@B.R.

That is precisely why I always ask people to quote me when they claim I say something; to avoid the mishap of putting words in ones mouth or fabricating the matter. Though I can honestly tell you, even if kiwi did or did not produce such evidence I would not see him or you in a bad light. Reason being is because I think both of you bring value to the thread and I refuse to choose a side in the matter when I also know both of you have been wrong or gone overboard. I have been wrong in cases as well and handled certain matters in a bad way, so I am not speaking as if I am better than anyone. I feel the exact same about the Bulanik and pay it forward situation.

You guys are going to choose to do and feel as you like regardless of my input, but I have to ask what will you achieve in having him posted as a liar. Most don’t really know how or where the argument began. I am one of those individuals.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:10:55 B. R.

ok, Abagond, I apreciete your explanation…the truth is , I constantly find myself on the defencive on the blog right now…you sizing up my remarks on the Obama gratuitis pictures, as those of “a white man”, when the subject had nothing to do with race and i was actualy introducing more in depth links to the discusion , to say the least, leaves me cold…and , I feel like distancing myself from here (note legion , im not saying im marterying myself or stopping, just disenchanted with commenting if i just am going to be classified as “tyhe white man”, when the subject has nothing to do with race)

Im very confident in saying the subject has nothing to do with race, what with the implications that its america making war on poc , since americans of all races and creeds have died in much greater numbers fighting white people than poc in all its wars put together…in other words its just mind boggling to me that my position on american international policy is just broken down into that of “a white man”…you know most of your ideas on international american policy come from white people, anyway

Sharina, I certainly understand you shouldnt have to chose between differant people…Im not really looking for blog support or defence…my main point about this is, Im not going to just sit there while someone tells false things about my position…things I never said…

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:16:55 Sharina

@B. R.

I understand your position more than you know.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:17:35 B. R.

..continued , Sharina, my computor cut off…

its really simple , Sharina…I was acused of associating Mosh with Islamic terrorists and thinking Mosh was the perpectual foreigner when he/she stated they were from Pakistan

I was acused of linking Jefe with Asian communists, and also thinking he was the perpetual foreigner, when I always knew he was born in America and never linked him with Asian communists

and an attempt to think Im racist because I dont have empathy with Asian men, when there is nothing I ever said to equal that

that is simple, and its very damaging accuasations, especialy if they arnt true and there are no statements to prove it…this has happened before on this blog to me…as well as being called a racist for no real reason …people call me these things but dont bring any specific links to prove anything…its always nebulous , like because I defend black genius to use the term sub sahara Africa..I mean someone may disagree, but it doesnt make me a racist…arguing in favor of black genius

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:19:24 Sharina

and I am sorry that I implied you wanted blog support or defense.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:20:04 B. R.

I know you know, Sharina, Ive seen it go down on you, and was sympathetic to your situation

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 14:24:00 Sharina

@B. R.

My noisiness gets the best of me. Well I can’t say I have read where you said those things in your comments, but then it is also fair to say I have not read every one of your comments on this blog either. Only thing I can say is take care and hopefully you will not let this bother you too much.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 15:52:34 Bulanik

I’ve found that it might be down to just choosing the battle because sometimes, in life, having the last word doesn’t “prove” or change anything.
In the same way, in a real life argument, being silent or being the quieter one doesn’t mean the one doing the talking has the monopoly on truth about a person or a situation, or that they “win” — only that they have better lungs to out-talk the other person.

Some battles are worth fighting and others just aren’t.
On a blog a lot can go wrong.
There is no way of knowing what is really going on when the person isn’t standing in front of you. Conversations in real life don’t go this way at all.
Conversations in my offline life contain a lot of listening and a lot of effort to try-and-find-solutions. In my own life, I never to to bed on an argument, and my family, kids, friends and colleagues know that they don’t have to shout at me — and that they won’t be shouted back at — if they want to talk or know something.

People are going to say what they are going to say, and believe what they believe for whatever. There are times and places and situations where having the most words might drown out everything else for that moment, but it might not make any difference. On blogs, it passes.

I think that King had it right when he said an argument is worth answering with rationality and clarity. It either stands or falls on its merit, and nothing else counts, especially with trolls. When anything that comes down to appeals for “support” or whatnot, then it stops being about about the argument and doesn’t belong in written form among strangers.

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on Tue Jan 21st 2014 at 16:16:12 Bulanik

@ Abagond, thank you for retaining my comments on the “woman” thread.

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 19:01:03 Bulanik

@ Abagond, why is “idiot” a moderated word?

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 19:19:58 abagond

@ Bulanik

Because it is used by drive-by trolls.

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 19:21:57 Bulanik

@ Bulanik

Are references to mental health or mental conditions slurs?

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 19:22:34 Bulanik

Such as retard or moron?

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 20:01:23 Sharina

@Bulanik

Very well said.

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on Thu Jan 23rd 2014 at 20:11:13 Bulanik

@ Sharina

Cripple and spastic used to be the names for physical disabilities, but no more. I don’t think understanding of mental conditions is at the same speed.

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on Sat Jan 25th 2014 at 12:49:35 Bulanik

@ Sharina, thank you.

Words which aren’t classed as obviously trollspeak like retard or cripple, liar or sociopath, can be used — and repetitively so — as subliminal micro-aggression.

Repetition does not make a thing truer, only “louder”.
It force-feeds the reader into hearing what the loudspeaker wants to broadcast.

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on Wed Jan 29th 2014 at 17:10:14 Legion

@ Abagond

Why have you not yet followed through on my comment deletion request? Please carry it out. Thank you.

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on Wed Jan 29th 2014 at 17:12:22 abagond

@ Legion

You kept changing your mind, so I was waiting for the dust to settle – but then forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder. I will do it some time over the next few days.

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on Wed Jan 29th 2014 at 17:50:23 Legion

The exceptions to the deletion remain as stated above:

• Europe is a continent
• Woman
and
• Science (as stated in the email)

delete everything else.

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on Wed Jan 29th 2014 at 17:55:46 abagond

@ Legion

Thanks for the handy guide. It will make mistakes less likely.

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on Thu Jan 30th 2014 at 20:52:22 Legion

Abagond, you’ve got mail.

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on Sat Feb 1st 2014 at 07:15:20 abagond

Lola / Sam is banned for using sock puppets

There are at least two other Sams on this blog. They are NOT banned, just the one who also called herself Lola.

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on Sat Feb 1st 2014 at 07:24:57 abagond

NOTE: I deleted a backlog of comments in moderation. Nearly all of them were there for moderated or insulting language. If you believe I deleted your comment in error, please let me know.

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on Fri Feb 7th 2014 at 14:46:31 Legion

Wow! Abagond, when you get to it, can you tell me why my most recent comment in science went to moderation? (I doubt it even qualifies for those moderated words you’ve kept a secret.)

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on Sun Feb 9th 2014 at 19:36:51 thwack

First, I am in no way, shape of form challenging the authority of this blog owners comment policy. Abagond can DECIDE to have any policy he wants, or no policy at all, or just make it up as he goes along…

My comments about it are strictly of the academic perspective.

Regarding the concept of “mock ebonics”. It is a term composed of two words.

1. Mock

and

2. Ebonics

Together we get the term: “mock ebonics”

My first question is

1. What is ebonics?

My 2nd question is “what is the opposite of ebonics?”

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on Sun Feb 9th 2014 at 20:41:39 thwack

BTW, the reason Im asking these questions here instead of Googling the answers is because I need the answer from the person using the term; because they may have/use a different definition than the one provided by Google or Wikipedia.

So far Im finding conflicting answers. Some say ebonics is a valid dialect of the English language endowed with all the protections and qualifications of any other dialect.

While other say it is nothing more than poor grammar and usage of the English language and therefore null and void?

Hmmm…?

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on Sun Feb 9th 2014 at 21:17:02 abagond

@ thwack

Read the comment policy. It has a link to the post on Mock Ebonics.

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on Wed Feb 12th 2014 at 16:41:18 abagond

@ Legion

Tell me if this is right: I will delete ALL of your comments EXCEPT for those in the following three threads:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/science/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/07/10/woman/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/europe-is-a-continent/

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on Wed Feb 12th 2014 at 22:15:06 abagond

Clarke / Leverage is banned for using sock puppets

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on Thu Feb 13th 2014 at 05:03:59 Legion

@ Abagond

Yes, what you’ve said there is correct.

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on Fri Feb 14th 2014 at 04:04:49 Legion

Abagond said:

You kept changing your mind, so I was waiting for the dust to settle – but then forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder. I will do it some time over the next few days.

Abagond, a “few days” has turned into two weeks since you made that comment. Do you think you will be able to go through with the deletion by the week-end?

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on Fri Feb 14th 2014 at 04:09:30 Legion

It is over a month that I made the initial request.

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on Fri Feb 14th 2014 at 17:49:20 abagond

@ Legion

This is done:

“Tell me if this is right: I will delete ALL of your comments EXCEPT for those in the following three threads:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/10/25/science/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/07/10/woman/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/europe-is-a-continent/
“

I left up your more recent comments on this thread for context.

I deleted over 2,000 comments. If you want any of them back, the sooner you tell me the more likely I will be able to fish them out of the blog’s Trash.

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on Sun Feb 16th 2014 at 04:32:17 Legion

^ I’m surprised you’d offer that, but appreciative too, thanks. How do you know I won’t pester you again and again with reversal requests? Your offer is a potential can of worms, no?

I have one reversal request. It will be the only one. Please restore my comments for In my Dreams.

There is another reversal to do but I can do it myself. A Cornell West video that needs to go back on a certain thread, though the thread is never commented on…

Thanks for doing the deletion.

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on Sun Feb 16th 2014 at 10:24:01 Legion

Damn it!

One more reversal, if you please. That whining Canadian princess Jane did some thief-thief arguing on a thread. So, please restore my comments on Asian Atrocity Argument.

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on Tue Feb 18th 2014 at 15:52:38 abagond

@ Legiion

I restored your comments for the “Asian atrocity argument” and “In my dreams” threads.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/asian-atrocity-argument/

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/in-my-dreams/

Please let me know if there are any problems.

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 16:20:16 thwack

abagond

@ Thwack

I declared Detroit off-topic:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/alligator-bait/#comment-215852
—————————————————————————————————–

Yes I see you did; but only after I participated in the Detroit discussion which you had allowed to start and continue until it came to dominate the thread.

why didn’t you declared Detroit off-topic when King and bygodsloveandgrace flooded the thread with a Detroit discussion?

Do you need help with moderation?

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 16:27:59 King

^Flooded? It was maybe thee exchanges all told. But if you come in at the end of a tangent you when it’s 5 or six off-topic comments, why would you wonder why it wasn’t cut off at one or two?

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 16:29:15 King

My spell check just mangles my sentences somehow.

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 18:10:46 bygodsloveandgrace

“why didn’t you declared Detroit off-topic when King and bygodsloveandgrace flooded the thread with a Detroit discussion?”

This is a gross exaggeration of what transpired.

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 18:22:38 thwack

Its not a charge against you bygodsloveandgrace; Im just seeking some continuity and integrity regarding the “off topic” enforcement policy. (I feel like Im being digitally profiled?)

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 18:26:29 bygodsloveandgrace

@thwack

If it makes you feel better, I’ve gone OT once before and once abagond notified me of this I stopped. It doesn’t just happen to you. I just have to be more mindful about straying too far from the original topic!

Stay blessed.

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on Wed Feb 19th 2014 at 18:53:13 abagond

@ Thwack

“Yes I see you did [declare Detroit off-topic]; but only after I participated in the Detroit discussion which you had allowed to start and continue until it came to dominate the thread.”

Wrong: You did not take part in the Detroit discussion till FOUR HOURS AFTER I declared it off topic.

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on Fri Feb 21st 2014 at 02:40:32 Legion

XP

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on Fri Feb 21st 2014 at 02:44:34 Legion

:-{}

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on Fri Feb 21st 2014 at 02:45:05 Legion

I hate wordpress!

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on Thu Feb 27th 2014 at 04:03:45 Sharina

All my comments on the Moral Monday thread are going into moderation. I did not say anything that would usually put in in there and I am unsure of why it would be thrown into moderation.

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on Fri Feb 28th 2014 at 03:46:39 Pay it Forward

Curiouser and curioser. Two comments of mine managed to post themselves without my username showing up in in the recent comments queue What gives?!

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on Fri Feb 28th 2014 at 05:31:51 Pay it Forward

Some of my posts are delayed in being published or are not showing up at all. If I’m not welcome here, then simply ban me.

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on Mon Mar 10th 2014 at 19:50:23 Legion

Abagond, if it is possible to do so, please restore my comments to these two threads:

• Miles Davis
• When Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkeys

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on Tue Mar 11th 2014 at 04:37:51 Legion

Also please restore my comments on Is Obama a rented negro.

If possible.

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on Tue Mar 11th 2014 at 15:53:50 Legion

Lastly, could you also restore my comments on the What would you call Quvenzhané Wallis? thread.

My thanks, if any of this is possible.

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on Tue Mar 11th 2014 at 20:26:42 Legion

And restore the comments on Fake Indians. Sorry. That’s it now.

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on Tue Mar 11th 2014 at 20:36:36 Legion

Did you disable this thing from showing up on recent comments? Let me know if the reversals are possible, thank you. My apologies on the bother.

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on Tue Mar 11th 2014 at 20:46:27 abagond

@ Legion

1. Recent Comments does not seem to show comments to top-level pages.

2. I should be able to do it tomorrow, but I will not know for sure until I do it. I will give you a status one way or the other.

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on Thu Mar 13th 2014 at 20:46:38 abagond

@ Legion

I restored your comments for these threads:

– Miles Davis
– When Jimi Hendrix opened for the Monkeys
– Fake Indians
– Is Obama a rented negro
– Quvenzhané Wallis

I think I got nearly all of them, at least of the ones that were still in the blog’s trash can.

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on Sat Mar 15th 2014 at 10:37:23 Legion

@ Abagond

Ah! You have my sincere gratitude. Thank you for tolerating my backpeddle.

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on Sun Mar 16th 2014 at 18:23:20 Legion

It [this thread] still won’t show in Recent Comments Julian.

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on Sun Mar 16th 2014 at 18:24:15 Legion

Thank you Sharina (for a recent comment you made).

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on Sun Mar 16th 2014 at 22:29:43 Sharina

The one you deleted was in reference to alligator bait and not talking about “Shirley.”

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on Sun Mar 16th 2014 at 22:48:19 abagond

@ Sharina

I think I got it right this time. Please let me know if i haven’t.

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on Sat Mar 22nd 2014 at 18:16:11 abagond

ALL:

I just wiped out everything in my spam filter. If you had anything stuck in there, please resubmit.

Thanks.

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on Sun Mar 30th 2014 at 08:26:49 Legion

please unbold the second stanza of my most recent comment in Bitter Hearts (the method man song)

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on Tue Apr 1st 2014 at 06:31:20 Anthony

I know that this is getting of subject but how make black americans have passposts? how many of us travel outside of the plantation that is the USA? are you a member of a travel group or evern a black travel group? do we travel aroud the country and see and do things that we or our parent could only dream to do?

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on Sat Apr 19th 2014 at 20:41:54 abagond

Better late than never:

Da Jokah is banned as a self-confessed troll:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/11/11/the-black-illegitimacy-argument/#comment-228683

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on Sat Apr 19th 2014 at 20:44:28 abagond

NOTE: I am going to wipe out everything in the spam filter. If you anything stuck in there, please let me know.

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on Wed Apr 23rd 2014 at 22:37:59 Sharina

@ Kiwi

I agree. I honestly don’t believe that churchs was his first one. I know you remember duckduckgoofs. He had an oddly similar life story to churchs. In fact I believe i accused him of being duckduckgoofs, but had nothing else to go on other than similar stories and knowing things they should not. If I am not mistaken they were actually mixed, which would explain da jokahs need to bring up if people are mixed or not.

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on Fri Apr 25th 2014 at 05:05:42 jefe

Randy was able to pick him off at least twice, and the response was almost a carbon copy. Kudos to him on that.

I can imagine the banned troll saying in Schwarzenegger’s voice “I’ll be back.” 😛

Yeah, and it is also great insight from Kiwi and Sharina about his comments on part-white persons regarding their “cognitive dissonance” – being able to condemn what white people do without resorting to self-hatred. He hasn’t passed out of that cognitive dissonance stage himself, so he cannot understand how the others think. 90% of black Americans are part white and 30% of white Americans are part black, yet we still have black and white. I guess over 100 million Americans should have this cognitive dissonance problem according to him.

He was an admitted troll, but Biff and Randy are not. They actually do attempt to have intelligent discourse at times. Where it falls through is when their “white savior” “mighty wh1t3y”, “white man’s burden” instincts start to come out. After encountering the “natives”, they fell compelled to use that acquired authority to colonize (or as it used to be called “Christianize”) them by thinking they can dictate their moral thinking and behavior. The “natives” are incapable of having logical, moral thought themselves. However, they appeal to irrelevant arguments which actually reflects the broken moral basis of that “white savior” thinking. They even went as far as to marry one of the “natives” to save them. Alas, such is the white man’s burden.

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on Fri Apr 25th 2014 at 06:25:32 eco

@Abagond

I wrote a comment in this thread a week ago and it’s still in moderation. “comment-228364”

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on Fri Apr 25th 2014 at 12:54:34 abagond

@ Eco

I deleted your comment. You are going to have to let it go. Cases like these are part of why this forum is English-only.

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on Fri Apr 25th 2014 at 23:40:25 Sharina

@ Kiwi

It makes me wonder what happened that made Duckduckgoofs/churchs/da jokah obsessed with Abagond.

@ Jefe

I actually respect Randy even if I don’t agree with a lot of what he says. Biff on the other hand simply creeps me out. He has said somethings that just make my skin crawl and I can’t really see past that.

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on Sat Apr 26th 2014 at 14:06:33 eco

@Abagond

So, you are saying that the language barrier prevents me from being able to prove my point, but doesn’t make you unable to establish whose side you should take?

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on Sat Apr 26th 2014 at 15:04:50 abagond

@ Eco

Here is how the Oxford dictionary defines “let it go”. I am using it in the figurative sense:

2 (also let go or let go of) Relinquish one’s grip on someone or something:

‘Adam let go of the reins’

• figurative ‘you must let the past go’

MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
‘William refused to let her go as his grip around her tightened.’

‘She shivered slightly as his fingers gently gripped hers then slowly let go.’

‘I let out a yell and tried to twist out of his grip, he let go and I fell with a thump.’

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/let?q=let+it+go#let__41

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 09:48:30 eco

@Abagond

Oh that’s so clever. You must have been very proud of yourself when you thought of that one.
Thing is, I do not want to let it go. I think it’s interesting you put more effort into avoiding a simple question than answering it would have taken. Is it because you do not want to acknowledge that you are being biased?

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 09:54:15 abagond

@ Eco

This forum is not in Polish. Very few people here know Polish. So comments in Polish do not count.

If there are any comments in Polish that I forgot to delete, please let me know and I will gladly delete them.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 11:24:16 eco

@Abagond

You should use your favorite dictionary and look up “changing the subject”.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 11:37:55 abagond

@ Eco

That is my policy that applies to this case. I am hardly changing the subject.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 12:04:51 abagond

@ Eco

This is not some policy I made up to put you off. It goes back to at least 2010 when Thad and B.R. would use Portuguese, bypassing my moderation.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 12:43:11 eco

@Abagond

It’s completely unrelated to this situation. This isn’t about your right to delete a comment and at this point I’m not even arguing about the ‘it’s impossible to figure out who is a native speaker of a foreign language’ thing. I think your stance on the latter is unreasonable, but I let that one go.

This is about the fact that you are being biased, but not willing to admit that you are. In the “Map of white people” thread you said:

“I deleted your comments about Bulanik’s Polish friends. You are dragging in her private life to smear her. Not cool. I know you think they are imaginary, but you have no way to prove it, at least not on an English-only forum like this one. You will just have to let it go.”

That’s clearly not a neutral stance. You are taking her side and supporting her version of events while placing the burden of proof on me. As I mentioned before, this means the language barrier prevents me from being able to prove my point, but somehow doesn’t make you unable to establish whose side you should take. Doesn’t prevent you from assuming that her samples of Polish were coming from real native speakers, even though that’s obviously something she can’t prove.

I’m not expecting you to be impartial. Only naive people believe it’s possible to be unbiased. But I do think someone as intelligent as you should be honest enough to admit a bias and not hide behind a comment policy.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 13:14:28 eco

I should say this explicitly – I’ve never questioned your decision to delete comments written in foreign languages.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 13:22:12 abagond

@ Eco

For me to make a decision based on Polish, a language where I do not even know how to say “Thank you” or “Goodbye”, is nuts, even armed with an online translator. No matter which side i come down on, the other side will be unhappy and be able to exploit my ignorance. Not going to happen.

At least with Portuguese I have a reading knowledge, but even there I was not going to allow it because anything subtle would be over my head.

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on Mon Apr 28th 2014 at 17:26:27 eco

@Abagond

“No matter which side i come down on, the other side will be unhappy and be able to exploit my ignorance.”

True, but that’s a false dichotomy, isn’t it? You had a third option – delete my comment, say you did it because it was off topic or an ad hominem and end it there. You did not have to pick a side and support one of the stories, but you did. Why are you trying to present this as a neutral solution or a choice you had to make, when that’s clearly not what it was?

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on Mon May 5th 2014 at 21:37:51 abagond

No longer a moderated word: “spic”.

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on Sat Jun 7th 2014 at 07:23:12 Legion

Possible solution:

Trolls can just be ignored, like Jefe said. They will post less and less if ignored, as will anyone else. This is not a rocket science solution, it’s obvious. Trolls or whatever you want to call them are also dishonest and dishonorable, so they won’t even yield when you’ve bested their points. Knowing this, why converse with them?

Possible solution 2: Abagond could close threads after some duration instead of letting them remain open indefinitely. If people know a thread will close on them eventually they may choose how they comment, and to whom, in a different manner than currently. practiced.

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on Sat Jun 7th 2014 at 10:24:16 jefe

Abagond has been doing some control when the troll deflects into an unrelated tangent:

OFF TOPIC: Blah, blah, blah

But they come back with another deflection.

I don’t like closing threads too much, esp. when someone is attracted to an old topic. Besides, he also has “See Also:” with links to old topics. If those topics were closed, you could never reply to them.

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on Thu Jun 12th 2014 at 04:48:53 Legion

@ Abagond

Hey, if you print my comment, then replace my “you’re” with what I meant to say: “your”. (recent comment for Coates thread)

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on Thu Jun 12th 2014 at 04:55:43 Legion

@ Jefe

Re: closing threads

Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. It’s going too far I guess. There’s a few threads I never could have commented on if they were closed. There’s a whole bunch you and Bulanik never would have been able to comment on. You’re right, it’s too drastic a solution; I was in Terminator mode that day. 🙂

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on Fri Jun 13th 2014 at 21:55:19 Sharina

Anyone else believe Ally is xprae?

These two lines got me thinking:

1.”Acute poverty is simply not a factor in North America any more.”
2. “Many believe there is a direct link but I, and many others, remain less convinced.”

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on Fri Jun 13th 2014 at 21:55:56 Sharina

If others keep him talking long enough he will likely give himself away.

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on Sun Jun 15th 2014 at 00:42:17 Violet Miller

I love the song Black Sugar. It does not say a negative word about blacks, only that the women are sweet. Blacks are much too sensitive but since racism is a business now it will never end. Sad. Where would all the rabble rousers and preachers go then?

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on Sun Jun 15th 2014 at 01:40:36 Sharina

Violet

Racism has been a business for years. Not just now. The only change is the ability for it to get out and spread. What is your point?

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on Sat Jun 21st 2014 at 15:55:58 Legion

Violet that’s adorable, you have a ‘thing’ for sweet black women! This is not a lesbian blog but I’m sure you can find one somewhere on the net.

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on Mon Jun 23rd 2014 at 10:54:55 abagond

@ Sharina

I doubt Ally is xPrae. Ally has a much thinner skin and gets upset at being considered white.

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on Mon Jun 23rd 2014 at 22:18:29 Sharina

It may be just me, but I just find it so odd that you ban one troll and everyone under the sun just jumps out of the woodworks and are new trolls not the old ones returned.

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on Sun Jul 20th 2014 at 18:19:11 Legion

please delete my faulty link in “woman”; it is my most recent comment in that thread

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on Sun Jul 20th 2014 at 18:29:03 Legion

… rather delete my second last comment in “woman”; my most recent comment is fine.

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on Sat Jul 26th 2014 at 03:57:26 Legion

Before I give you the bad news, a question: have you heard of 3d printing?

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on Sat Jul 26th 2014 at 04:38:38 Legion

The technology to do the following is not there yet, but perhaps one day:

imagine those nasty robots you drew our attention to, imagine that they can repair themselves after taking combat damage. Not a pleasant thought.

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on Sat Jul 26th 2014 at 04:43:22 King

Yes, but I know the technology as Additive Process Manufacturing. I’ve even used it a few times. Hmm… That would be VERY bad indeed! Where can I read about it??

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on Sat Jul 26th 2014 at 04:55:25 Legion

I’ve just been reading general articles on it. The military application popped into my head, it wasn’t something I read. The articles I’ve read were mostly American and I think one was British. Naturally, the message was all about consumer benefits and revolution in manufacturing.

You’re pulling my leg about asking for recommended reading on the subject; you’ve used it. But here’s one that toned down the hype a bit:

http://gizmodo.com/why-3d-printing-is-overhyped-i-should-know-i-do-it-fo-508176750

Kiwi is probably interested in it too.

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on Sun Aug 3rd 2014 at 11:51:12 wordynerdygirl

@ Legion & King

They’re already using 3d printing for crime reconstructions in law enforcement.

On a related note, I read an article the other day that predicted worldwide employment will drop by about 40% over the next 50 or so years because of inventions like this (http://www.futuristspeaker.com/2012/02/2-billion-jobs-to-disappear-by-2030/)

It makes me sad to think that one day human beings might not actually make or craft anything.

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on Fri Aug 8th 2014 at 01:18:20 sharina

@Abagond

Just wanted to let you know that sometimes my post show with the name sharinalr instead of sharina.

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on Wed Aug 20th 2014 at 13:01:58 abagond

sb32199 is banned for being a troll.

He keeps derailing and spamming threads with his Broken Africa stereotype. He knows I wrote a post on it, yet never talks about it there. Which tells me that he is not truly serious about the topic at all but is nothing more than a troll.

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on Wed Aug 20th 2014 at 18:34:56 jefe

^ He was derailing threads with all sorts of tangents that included some nonsense information. He was never serious about the discussion of any topic.

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on Wed Aug 20th 2014 at 19:40:26 Legion

@ Wordy

It’s not all bad; some of the job loss will affect traffic cops! 😀

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on Wed Aug 20th 2014 at 19:48:13 Legion

@ Wordy

The King and I took the discussion over to the science thread. I’m going to cut and paste your comment to that thread too. Because I am awesome and nice, that way!

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on Wed Aug 27th 2014 at 12:41:46 Sharina

@Abagond

I believe Wordy just outed assplund again.

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on Wed Aug 27th 2014 at 17:36:30 sharinalr

@Abagond

Northern lights is asplund. The individual admitted as much in the comments you deleted.

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on Thu Sep 11th 2014 at 18:44:05 abagond

@ Kiwi

Deleted comments comparing a commenter to a dog.

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on Fri Sep 12th 2014 at 00:37:45 abagond

@ Bulanik

Pay It Forward has also gone under the names:

Caffeine & Nicotine
Fiamma
fiamma blu
Parfum Bleu
BleuParfum
BleuParfumRoses
Paisley
Tsk Tsk

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on Fri Sep 12th 2014 at 03:21:18 sharinalr

Wow. Stayaway too long and return to a sh*t storm.

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on Fri Sep 12th 2014 at 15:27:22 wordynerdygirl

A few quick examples of Bulanik’s continuing plagiarism:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/leila-mourad-ana-albi-dalili-%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%89-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7-%D9%82%D9%84%D8%A8%D9%8A-%D8%AF%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%84%D9%8A/#comment-247198

Plucked almost verbatim from another comment here:

http://community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/43901/30134811/A_Response_to_BDS_Supporters?post_num=1

Adapted from the Wikipedia article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquistador

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/three-ways-to-write-about-asians/#comment-232930

More Wikipedia (this time attributed):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Act_of_1875

This comment:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/10/18/notes-towards-a-native-american-history-of-george-washington/#comment-198299

had an unattributed source:

Click to access histofthought1.pdf

This:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/11/21/the-world/#comment-203952

Was pulled from this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ink
And the first reference in the Wikipedia entry:

http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Atramentum.html

I’ll find more examples tomorrow. I found these examples in less than 20 minutes.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 00:24:05 Pay It Forward

Here below is the source material followed by the plagiarized text (I promised in the Open thread that I would get back to it with the correct source link):

“Fewer historians try to tackle ALL OF THE VARIOUS HISTIOGRAPHIES RELEVANT TO A BROADER INTERPRETIVE OR ANALYTIC SYNTHESIS, and some suggest that A POST-MODERN PERSPECTIVES DOES NOT ALLOW FOR ANY REAL SYNTHESIS. On the other hand many scholars have been calling for a “new synthesis” in AMERICAN history for years. Thomas H. Bender has argued that synthesis raises its own unresolved issues such as teleology, CAUSATION [emphasis mine], agency, and subjective meaning; and INCLUSION AND EXCLUSION.[22]….” [emphasis mine]

Extracted from: http://www.answers.com/topic/historian [Scroll down to about mid-page to a entry on historians taken from Wikipedia. Entries on the Wikipedia site itself are allowed to be edited.]

—

Information from the above source excerpt is repeated — verbatim, in some instances — in the comment excerpt below:

“Facts and analysis are fantastic, but I don’t believe that your approach deals with ALL OF THE VARIOUS HISTIOGRAPHIES that are RELEVANT TO A BROADER INTERPRETIVE OR ANALYTIC SYNTHESIS.
“A friend of mine told me that ^^ some while ago, and he also pointed out that many modern historians, especially North AMERICANS, are a mixed up bunch because their POST-MODERN PERSPECTIVE closes them off to ANY REAL SYNTHESIS . Synthesis, he said, is not set in stone, so something like “CAUSATION”, what to INCLUDE or EXCLUDE…. ” [emphasis mine]

Extracted from: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/09/25/the-spanish/#comment-194915 [It’s buried in there somewhere.]

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There was, of course, a minor and obvious rewording attempt made (actually it is supposed to be one’s own phrasing/wording rather than a simple — and meager — attempt to hide the actual source material). And, unless this same friend, who has been offered as the source of the information, is also the author of the original Wikipedia entry, then there is also a false claim as to the actual source for the information.

So there it is, as I promised. There are plenty more examples though, and probably even within the same individual comment / extended commentary that this excerpt was taken from, however, as I wasted my time on this sort of thing in the past, I will no longer bother with it after this.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 11:56:27 B. R.

Abagond?

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 18:05:31 Ebonymonroe

On one occasion, I looked up some information in a study book on brain plasticity to refresh my memory. On a second occasion, I scanned a wiki article to refresh my memory on statistics on an area in psychology I just couldn’t remember because I couldn’t be bothered to dig through m books for the post. On both occasions, I can’t recall listing the source material. I better make sure I don’t neglect to do that in future.

If she did, can’t she just be given one more warning? (Runs out of thread.)

Side note: from reading further up on the comments policy page, I see BR got banned once. When I used to stick to reading the blog over participating, I remember seeing BR’s site where he was protesting about the ban. I remember because the site had a number of pictures of nude women standing in the street. How come he was allowed back on? I also see Biff is back. Are banned commenters banned for a period of time and then allowed back on? Just curious.

@Abagond

Does this power give you a rush? Do you stand in the mirror and flex a lil bit at the thought of it? Do you randomly let out evil laughs that end with pretend echoes at your computer? I’m only saying this . . ..because that’s probably what I’d do.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 19:02:54 jefe

@wordynerdygirl,

I wouldn’t classify the quote regarding the Paige Act of 1875 as plagiarism as the source was quoted.

I think she should just quote her sources if she copies text, or just leave a link. Then one is not passing one’s information off as one’s own.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 19:31:28 B. R.

Ebonymonroe , wtf are you talking about on my site? I dont have a site…you mean my youtube channal ? What nude women on the street? You mean bikinis on a beach? Im suposed to be banned for that? You really are uptight about nudity arnt you ? Or did you actualy go to Blanchettes website, where he complained about the ban…you better get that straight , Monroe…Im tired of getting implicated

Lets get one thing straight, Im not advocating anyone being banned, Im saying see the bs for what it is…since Bulanik had all of her past comments erased, you cant see she manipulated and connived this blog into thinking I was stalking her…or like I was flirting, total bs, I dont relate to cyber blips in the first place , I live on a Brazilian beach, I relate to real life sensuality and near nudity, not black and white type on a page, so , this was total crap , weaved over a period of time with a hush hush , under the table until she brought it out in the most fake drama entry , trying to manipulate

I dont have any real special connection with PIF , yet, one of the last comments Bulanic had erased , in her first fall out with her, she tried to link me and PIF up as colaborating as Americans against her

Me and Wordy dont have any real connection , if I said Gail Dines sucks raw eggs, Wordy, Bulanik and you would be trying to bury me, but ive done enough research on this women to blast her out of the water, but , one of the conflicts Bulanik has with Wordy is she dared say that the disgusting Global Report fantacy crap , implying the cia created Boko Haram and sent suicide bombers out on LSD, was conspiracy theory, and truly was…and Bulanik gets all out of joint about that, for disagreeing that American foreign policy isnt the cia invents everything…

If you dare disagree with Bulanik , she will manipulate and conive and go to all manner of extremes to insult and degrade you, especialy if its against her bs about America…which a whole lot of bs about America has been quafing on this blog from across the Atlantic…people ready to urge everyone to tear the system down

This disgusting personal bs, and in my case it was disgustingly personal , seems to tie very handily into bringing in bs lies about the American foreign policy…its like there is some kind of vendetta going on , to undermine all things American…it smells like crap

These examples they brought in, isnt a couple of examples, this is cronic , Bulanic had her past comments erased…wonder why…

These two women backed up their statements , after being dragged over the coals about it…they deserve to be acknowledged that they were right

I really dont care about banning, Im not even out of joint about plagarising, its the conniving manipulation and lies, that play out personaly and in political degrading of USA policy, and this is what I want to see…this crap called out for what it is

And Monroe , you better get it straight about whose site you are talking about,yes I was banned, but allowed back…as much as I know Abagond regrets that

You know , you apologised for cursing at me once, but , you never really indicated you included the disgusting things you said about me with black women , just because you got squeamish about some things I said on the booty dancing thread or porn thread…unless you clarify that, I dont really trust your judgement about me

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 20:30:06 Ebonymonroe

BR

What on earth are you talking about? I asked why were you banned.

Can’t you read?

I never told you how to feel or what you feel about Bulanik, it was a general question to all.

Fair enough it wasn’t your site, but where did I give my opinion on the site with nudity in the post?

I’ve never said anything about your wife I used your subtle racist fetishist misogynist Sotomayor ideas on what Black female culture is and told you what you were actually implying in a more vulgar to-the-point way. I’m not apologising for telling you the things you’ve said.

Posting videos of little Black and brown girls twerking.
Spewing garbage about the joys of seeing Black women and girls nude and twerking under the guise of “it’s African culture preservation.”
When it turns out Twerkin is a Pop culture dance and the Mapouka’s the traditional dance you insist it must be because you’ve got video footage of Black women behaving this way.
Posting footage of little Black and brown girls shaking their bottoms like some pedophile with an archive collection
Winding your neck up about Black women on the blog saying little Black girls shouldn’t be twerkin in Beyonce’s video then telling me I’m a pop culturalist as you defend a pop artist and a raunchy pop dance.
Telling me this person’s Blacker than me because I don’t agree with little Black girls turned around, bending over and sticking their jiggling bottoms into a camera, because I don’t think that’s natural, traditional Blackness unlike you.
Fighting for nude Black female dancers but telling me you simply can’t wear a thong, you can’t fight for that because blah, blah, blah, like a blatant hypocrit.
Telling me how much the display of nude women in dressing rooms has added to your life. As soon as you get to Talking about Black women all that comes out of your mouth is twerkin, nudity, and voodoo.
Insulting my stepdad’s work with Prince, The Ohio players, Roy Ayres and Nina Simone because these Black musicians are just Pop funk bands to you. They were the next generation of Black people creating the culture you’ve appropriated. And then having the nerve to ask me to help you pass on your son’s CD. You’re the one who gave us gory details on your wife being beaten and raped and how much you’ve helped her, using her as some disgusting Black badge of authenticity. I’ve never said anything about her.

The only difference between you and Sotomayor is that he bashes Black women for seeing Black women this way but you get off on Black women for seeing them this way.

You’re a racist, patronising misogynist. I’m more than able to respectfully engage with people who are like this, but don’t go thinking I’ve changed my views. Sam is right. And if you’re looking for an apology you’ve got it, I’m not about hurting anyone’s feelings, I’ll be the bigger person. I apologise. But I apologised then and now for the way I said things, but not for what I said. I stand by it. You’re a White colonialist in Black music who see’s the Black aesthetic from a racist Pop culturalist perspective. And I’ll always think that of you. But you have the sincere apology you want, even though it’s for something I didn’t even do.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 20:51:00 Ebonymonroe

When I have time I will copy and paste the racist things you’ve said. I will do it.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 22:44:58 Sharina

Ebonymonroe

The problem is that she already had a warning. Pay it forward brought it to abagond’s attention before and that is when abagond made the plagiarism policy.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 22:46:15 Sharina

Biff had been banned? Oh man where in heck have I been.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 23:56:09 Ebonymonroe

@Sharina

I really don’t know or have knowledge on this. I just like many of the commenters here including wordy, PIF, and you. I don’t know anything about it.

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on Sat Sep 13th 2014 at 23:59:46 Herneith

@Sharina:

I think it was a clown by the name of ‘bliff’, not biff who was banned.

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on Sun Sep 14th 2014 at 03:59:41 wordynerdygirl

@ Ebonymonroe

I totally understand what you mean about refreshing your memory with a quick google search or glance at Wikipedia. We all do this and I should clarify that’s not what PIF and I are disgreeing with.

What I disagree with is copying and pasting from Wiki or other sources and then passing it off as one’s own research or in-depth knowledge about a topic.

I really like your commentary here too, sorry about getting into another barney!

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on Sun Sep 14th 2014 at 10:39:27 wordynerdygirl

* disagreeing. Sorry for the multiple typos.

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on Sun Sep 14th 2014 at 12:32:11 sharinalr

@Ebony

I understand. This situation is going to be a tough call.

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 00:31:43 Ebonymonroe

Oh, there was a Bliff.

You don’t need to apologise @wordy

Is Bulanik Demerera?

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 18:34:07 Bulanik

@ Abagond

I haven’t the time yet to go through all PIF’s plagiarisms. But I will.
Only the ones cited on the LYING thread. This one:

From that thread I said:

… in the australian-aboriginals-according-to-national-geographic thread: Pay it Forward, as Fiamma this time says — this:

In cultures where breasts are not traditionally viewed in a sexual context — e.g., the Himba people of Africa, among others — going bare-breasted is not a political statement or a means to titillate… In these cultures, the female breast is viewed as an organ meant to feed babies, and this being the case, there is no need to cover / hide them. Bodily parts which are considered sexual are often — but not always — covered in some manner or other.

I recall in one of my anthropolog {books}… In these cultures, the female breast is viewed as an organ meant to feed babies, and this being the case, there is no need to cover / hide them. Bodily parts which are considered sexual are often…

No references are given.
No links are given.

At first glance this reads like: Broad Blogs, from 2010:

“…Men and women both resist the claim until they’re reminded of tribal societies. We’ve all seen pictures from National Geographic. And we all know that among tribal people women’s breasts are no big deal.”

Above it, is a photo of the Himba!! Continuing in comments, it says:

“… And the breast fetish does not exist in them all. … Being flattered by sexual activity will make it no more sexual than it ever … Female breasts are viewed as sexual or functional depending on the …. If that were the case, it would be found in all cultures, but it’s not. …… They’re there to feeding babies, that’s all.”

http://broadblogs.com/2010/11/04/men-aren%E2%80%99t-hard-wired-to-find-breasts-attractive/

No link or book reference given in Fiamma’s original post.

This is a cut and paste job. It took me 45 seconds to find that when I looked for it. I can and, will, find more of the same.

T

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 19:44:30 Bulanik

And by using Shakespeare’s words it doesn’t amount to plagiarism.

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 19:46:45 Bulanik

@ Ebonymonroe

Is Bulanik Demerera?

Why would you ask that question?

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 19:52:47 Bulanik

@ Ebony

What you have to remember in looking at this issue is this:

The same rules MUST apply to everyone.

I’ll find you some examples of PIF’s plagiarism. Wordy’s too.
It’s just a matter of time.

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 19:53:52 Bulanik

I mean, some MORE examples of PIF’s plagiarism.

This means ANYTHING reworded or vaguely familiar sounding.

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 22:04:20 abagond

@ Wordy @ Pay It Forward @ Bulanik

Thank you for your examples. I will review them and come to a decision by the 18th, if not sooner.

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on Mon Sep 15th 2014 at 23:24:55 Bulanik

@ Abagond, I haven’t begun on PIF’s and not opportunity to go deep into Wordy’s.

PIF’s

I recall in one of my anthropology textbooks seeing a photo of a young girl, whom, as I recall, was Melanesian / Papuan, suckling a piglet at her (bare) breast. She looked in no way perturbed in doing this, and, as a matter of fact, her suckling that piglet probably meant not only life or death for the creature, but also the potential well-being of her family as well. Her unclad breast being used to suckle a barnyard animal is a pretty strong indicator that for her people it is simply a source of nutrition.

(Judging a dissimilar culture according to the values and customs of one’s own is called “ethnocentrism”. Most of us do it have done this at some time or other.)

As for Ethnocentrism.
More or less same wording here:
https://www.englishforums.com/English/BridgingTheGapOfCultures/czwj/post.htm

And here:

Click to access 121107.pdf

And here:
“Ethnocentrism is judging another culture solely by the values and standards of one’s own culture”, first line here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

A young girl suckling piglets and such, pretty similar wording and description here:
“….What if a human breastfeeds an animal? … she included an image of a piglet suckling on her breast….”

http://aprilleflye.blogspot.ie/2011/04/15-unique-women-who-breastfeed-animals.html
Or:
“…to suckle piglets and forpig-caring to take precedence over child-bearing …”
Just type in “Bibliography of Pig” or “Melansia and piglets”. Also “Papua and pigs”, producign something like this: http://www.papuaerfgoed.org/en/Pigs_and_Pig_Ceremonies_in_New_Guinea

Looking at it, it looks like a summary of few other articles are human-animal feeding practices. If I had the time and energy I would look them up.
I don’t.

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 04:41:46 wordynerdygirl

@ Bulanik

So where are your examples of my plagiarism? That’s right, you don’t have any because I haven’t plagiarised.

Please stop making allegations that you can’t support with evidence.

Anyway, I’m sick of this fighting and I am going to take Jefe’s advice.

@ Abagond

You can expect a guest post from me by the end of September.

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 04:46:22 wordynerdygirl

@ Abagond

Thanks for clearing that up.

Bulanik, I apologise for asking whether Demerera is really you. I won’t apologise for my other comments because unfortunately you are the one who started to get personal.

I’m happy to email Abagond my essay. By the way, it’s not a thesis: as per my post, I won the prize for my essay as an undergraduate.

Abagond knows my real name, has received emails from my google address which has my photo on, and is perfectly capable of looking me up on LinkedIn.

Abagond, if you look me up on LinkedIn you will see some of the places I have worked. As you will note, I have an extensive background in policy and communications, and am currently employed in a very senior role.

QED.

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 05:04:08 Bulanik

“Please stop making allegations that you can’t support with evidence.”

Wordy, aren’t you the expert at that?
You said a number of things — assumptions, allegations and accusations — that you couldn’t support when I showed you the evidence.

And what did you say when I showed you the evidence…. Zero.

You also lie, and then act like butter wouldn’t melt.

And the reason I haven’t found your plagiarisms yet is because I haven’t STARTED looking! If you actually paid attention, you’d have copped on by now.
I work, have projects, meetings, commitments.
As much as you stomp and strut around the blog like you’re the dog’s bollocks, you aren’t important enough to be my priority.

I simply intuit something “fishy” about you, you are too loud and snotty, and that sets off alarm bells for me.

Therefore, yes, I WOULD APPRECIATE the essay, as there are a couple of people who might not share the confidence you have in your very extensive and very senior, snotty self.

*****

That said, thank you for the apology.

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 05:22:00 Bulanik

@ Sharina

The problem is that she already had a warning. Pay it forward brought it to abagond’s attention before and that is when abagond made the plagiarism policy.

Who’s the thing you are talking about here?

@ Ebonymonroe

If you want to understand what is going on I’ll tell you about the thing, Bulanik, cue *sarcasm*:

– it is illiterate
– it can’t string a sentence together, let alone a paragraph.
– it doesn’t have thoughts. In fact, it can’t think.
– it doesn’t have any life experience.
– it never had a friend (only imaginary ones).
– has no education (remember it can’t read).
– it has never had a conversation.
– it has no memory of anything.
– has done nothing.
– been nowhere.
– it is evil, and only has intentions that are evil.
– it is, of course, heartless.
– it robs and maims.
– it is bereft of any virture or talent.
– it is guilty of everything no one else is, and guilty of all others says it must be.
– it deserves to be lied about, slandered, attacked, trashed, talked down to.
– it is not allowed to defend itself. That is “starting it first”.
– it has no entitlements others take for granted.

And most of all, it is a Complete Airhead.
(Not a threat at all.)

Get the picture?

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 05:40:47 wordynerdygirl

@ Bulanik

I’ll email Abagond, I am not emailing you anything.

You talk about ‘stomping’ around the blog. I do not post here often, however somehow you manage to find the time to post upwards of 20 comments a week.

I will not be engaging with you any more, full stop.

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 05:45:24 Bulanik

@ Ebonymonroe

Notice an example of that here (I had said next to nothing, or probably nothing about, the commenter in months, the desire to beat to a pulp is irresistible, and later the saying will be that IT NEVER HAPPENED.): Enjoy:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/#comment-253015

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 06:04:34 Bulanik

@ Wordy

You mean you thought I’ve give you my email address? Be real, girl.
I wouldn’t elect to have you clog up my filter! Goodness knows what kind of abuse you’d inject into my life.

The people who know better than you will scrutinize your magnum opus-essay in due course, so, I will wait for it in whatever form it arrives in.

Now: not everyone works for someone, like you.
Some people create jobs, and do what is called “thinking”. Try that sometime; it’d do no harm to attempt it before you open your considerably-sized gob, rather than the other way round.

Which brings me to stomping. This is not the same as being present.
Abagond once gave me the invitation to comment: “my blog is at your service” when my father died, and, after I learned that his death was actually a suicide, commenting takes off the edge (better than other things), so why not slip away and leave me be, Wordy?

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 09:18:35 abagond

@ Wordy

“You can expect a guest post from me by the end of September.”

Awesome!

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on Tue Sep 16th 2014 at 09:26:28 abagond

@ Bulanik

FYI, the other day I let you and Pay It Forward say pretty much whatever you wanted. This thing has been building up for over a year, so I thought it would be good to let you both vent somewhat.

You complain about personal attacks, but you can be pretty nasty too, not just to Pay It forward but to Wordy and to me, among others. Just because I try to remain calm does not mean you are not being a dick.

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on Wed Sep 17th 2014 at 23:53:05 sharinalr

@Bulanik

I did not see in my quoted comment where I said “the thing”. I am not so low as to refer to a human being as such. As to who I am referring to in the comment it is you. I was taking the time to explain what happened to Ebony, who is quite unaware and confused on the situation. Though I am not fully aware of it myself I did share what I knew. This is in no way an attack on you as I think it is a tough situation period. One in which I would rather stay out of than engage.

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on Thu Sep 18th 2014 at 12:52:11 jefe

@Bulanik,

Looking forward to your guest post. When will you announce it?

To be honest, I drafted a few guest posts when I was completely flabbergasted over the commentary on this blog. For example, I drafted the one on Manila Galleons when XPrae was trying to enrage as many commenters as possible by making personal attacks (about a year before it got posted). Instead of engaging him, I shifted to writing about something I was interested in.

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on Fri Sep 19th 2014 at 01:38:29 abagond

@ Bulanik

Pictures of bare-breasted Himba, are pretty common, probably because they are bare-breasted and colour themselves red. Pretty dramatic looking. I see them on my Tumblr dashboard all the time.

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on Fri Sep 19th 2014 at 02:28:29 abagond

Bulanik is banned for plagiarism.

The smoking gun is here:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/#comment-252900

My remarks on that example:

Bulanik uses the phrases “various historiographies” and “any real synthesis”. Both are scholarly expressions. “Any real synthesis” is kind of dated. It was common between 1902 and 1980. “Various historiographies” has never been common. It appears nowhere in Google Books, for example.

There are only four pages on the Internet that use both expressions: Bulanik’s comment, the page Pay It Forward linked to and two others. The three non-Bulanik pages are clearly cut-and-paste jobs from the Wikipedia.

The Wikipedia page for “Historian” had those two phrases, in the same paragraph no less, from March 12th 2012 to January 9th 2014. Bulanik wrote her comment during that period, on September 30th 2013. Here is how that Wikipedia page looked on that day:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Historian&oldid=575188247

“Various historiographies” was added on October 20th 2009 by Jim37hike, a PhD student of history at the University of Mssouri.

“Any real synthesis” was added on March 12th 2012 by Rjensen, better known as Richard Jensen, an American historian at Montana State Univesity, Billings. He got his PhD from Yale in 1966, thus the somewhat dated language.

The odds of her using both expressions without copying the Wikipedia – which just happened to use both on the very day she wrote her comment – is probably less than a billion to one.

Compare:

Bulanik’s “friend”:

“Facts and analysis are fantastic, but I don’t believe that your approach deals with all of the various historiographies that are relevant to a broader interpretative or analytic synthesis.”

The Wikipedia on the same day:

“Fewer historians try to tackle all of the various historiographies relevant to a broader interpretive or analytic synthesis, and some suggest that a post-modern perspectives does not allow any real synthesis.”

In commenting on what her “friend” said, she threw in, by an amazing coincidence, “any real analysis” and “post-modern perspectives”.

She is apparently cutting and pasting from the Wikipedia and then editing it.

I will be deleting all her comments.

Background: A year ago she was accused of plagiarism. Since she was willing to have all her questionable comments deleted, I let her off with a warning.

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on Fri Sep 19th 2014 at 05:05:10 jefe

Gee.

Indeed, it would be best to delete the comments that were actually plagiarized.

Of course, that would be an impossible task.

But, by deleting all her comments, many of the meaningful interchanges on some threads would no longer make sense. I noticed that occurred when her comments were deleted in the past.

I might also request that the comments addressed to me not be deleted either for my personal reference and for continuity in certain threads.

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on Fri Sep 19th 2014 at 16:15:26 abagond

@ Jefe @ Kiwi

I will think about it.

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on Sat Sep 20th 2014 at 15:41:55 sharinalr

@Abagond

I know this is strange to ask, but I am curious on whether or not Bulanik had a explanation for why she chose to do it. I just don’t understand it. What makes one do that? It was not as if she needed to prove how smart she was or learned.

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on Sat Sep 20th 2014 at 23:12:13 sharinalr

Kiwi

Agreed.

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on Sun Sep 21st 2014 at 00:43:55 abagond

@ Sharina

If she emails me an apology and wants me to put it on the blog I will.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 19:40:36 Legion

@Sharina

The problem is that she already had a warning. Pay it forward brought it to abagond’s attention before and that is when abagond made the plagiarism policy.

No dear. The plagiarism policy is older than that. That is why it was highly problematic that Abagond did not ban her from the first. Past plagiarizers were basically two-bit trolls and never lasted long: warning then ban. Bulanik was aided, favoured, treated with kindness or kid gloves (depends on perspective); she abused it all. Entitled self important liars do that.

Oh, and hi. 🙂

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 19:50:33 Legion

It was not as if she needed to prove how smart she was or learned.

Sharina dear, I think actually this was indeed what she felt a need to do:

demonstrate high intellect and learnedness. Just think about her comments and then also recall our lovely discussion that a bunch of us had on the woman thread regarding mental traps and so on that get wired, with near, permanence into our brains. That brain of ours feeds out into the nervous system it is easy to become something and not see it (self perceive) happening. It’s a remarkable feature of being human, it’s also a double edged sword, depending on the sorts of practices one takes up, regardless of whether those practices are mundane or profound. I do hope that you and Pif did read the book recommendations that were mentioned, you both seemed interested in the subject matter.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 20:01:49 Legion

Kiwi said:

Even after learning of her plagiarism, I do not doubt Bulanik’s intelligence for one second. Pay it Forward admitted to as much. More than just feeling a sense of betrayal, which Abagond no doubt also feels, I feel a sense of confusion as to her motives. Out of respect for the many commenters that Bulanik has engaged in dialogue on this blog over the years, I believe she owes everyone an explanation.

Her intelligence is obvious and burns brightly. I would say Pif paid Bulanik a compliment rather than “admitted” to something we all could see. Indeed, her intelligence was simply one of her good features that engendered fondness and respect from the rest of us.

I disagree that she owes us an explanation. She may not know, herself, precisely why she was plagiarizing. Rather she owes herself the explanation. To all of us, if we are to place a claim on debts, then she “owes” us an apology, but nothing more.

I am stung and saddened that in her final days, on the blog, she levelled a charge against me of racist othering and exoticising, when she used Orientalism against me, saying I was practicing it. Me, a man who follows a religion whose founder was Indian. It was a moment of wretched lowness on her part. It is also wretched that Abagond allowed her these attacks and deleted my responses.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 20:13:11 Legion

@ Abagond

I will add to what Kiwi and Jefe have said.

Do not delete Bulanik’s posts. My reasons are not out of sentimentality, however. All her posts should remain as a testament to folly we all engaged in, in allowing her to carry on her lies. It is also a testament to your favoritism. You could have stopped this long ago, but no. Again, (as I said on the cure lying thread) her lies were obvious when she invented the Polish friends in the exchange with Eco, somewhere around the time period of the Warsaw Ghetto thread.

Also, her posts should remain so that the ways of a crafty charletan can be seen in plain view. Don’t sanitize what went on here, you helped it along, own that.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 20:22:25 Legion

I myself was dumbfounded upon learning the news of Bulanik’s plagiarism

Kiwi, weren’t you commenting when Pif busted Bulanik the first time around?

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 20:51:16 Legion

Abagond said:

Bulanik is banned for plagiarism.

The smoking gun is here:

The “smoking gun” was a long time ago. Please, it’s too late to play vigilant and fair minded observer.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 21:54:54 Legion

Background: A year ago she was accused of plagiarism. Since she was willing to have all her questionable comments deleted, I let her off with a warning.>/i>

Incomplete.

She was not just accused of plagiarism, and the plagiarism was proven.

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on Tue Sep 30th 2014 at 21:57:21 Legion

sigh, I meant to say:

She was accused of plagiarism and the plagiarism was proven.

It was not just a matter of an accusation that was a mud slinging affair with no substance.

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on Wed Oct 1st 2014 at 02:08:42 Mary Burrell

I am sighing a huge *SIGH* I am sad about this. This got very ugly. I don’t know what to think.

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on Wed Oct 1st 2014 at 02:28:25 sharinalr

@Legion

Thanks for the explanation. I was not aware there was a prior policy in place for plagiarizing.

I will read the book, but please drop by every now and then. I am not here as much as my life has been a bit crazy, but do visit here and there.

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on Wed Oct 1st 2014 at 04:48:04 Legion

@ Sharina

I hope everything works out well; I get the sense that the ‘crazy’ is of a negative variety. I’m going to bed in a few, I’ll remember you in prayer before I hit the hay; don’t thank me, my bad ways mean I have to take opportunities to create good Karma 🙂 .

I also came back to say good bye to people whom I appreciated here, you are definitely one of those people. Be well.

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on Wed Oct 1st 2014 at 11:47:50 abagond

@ Legion

I do not remember when I deleted comments where you defended yourself against charges of Orientalism, so I cannot tell you why I did that. Maybe you can refresh my memory. I can only suppose that I deleted them because you used insulting or moderated language or something like that.

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on Thu Oct 2nd 2014 at 09:00:53 wordynerdygirl

@ Abagond et al

My guest post is coming soon – sorry I missed the original due date! I’ll have one finished this weekend, it’s Labour Day on Monday so I have lots of extra time.

@ Legion

So glad to see you back!

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on Fri Oct 3rd 2014 at 05:41:18 Legion

comment in moderation
i bolded more than was intended
too tired to spell out the correction.

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on Sun Oct 5th 2014 at 12:19:17 abagond

@ Legion

I emailed your comment to Pay It Forward.

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on Wed Oct 8th 2014 at 05:18:52 Legion

@ Abagond

When you read that thread now (warsaw ghetto) do you see it as pretty clear that the “polish friends” were inventions?

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on Wed Oct 8th 2014 at 05:20:55 Legion

I emailed your comment to Pay It Forward.

Thank you Abagond.

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on Wed Oct 8th 2014 at 05:30:45 Legion

I do hope you continue commenting.

Kiwi, you’re a discriminating reader of various commenters, so thanks for saying that. I appreciate it.

I got a real gift from my exchange with Jefe on the China thread, I seriously treasure the exchange I had with him there. I hope I’ve been able to provide some value to you or someone else with whatever thoughts I have shared.

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on Wed Oct 8th 2014 at 05:37:44 Legion

@ Abagond

You think I would dare call you or anyone else evil? And I know you’re not stupid. I confess to knowing (believing) she was lying and still helping her carry it through (that day anyway). If i called others evil, I’d have to call myself evil too.

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on Mon Oct 13th 2014 at 16:37:20 abagond

@ Legion

The Polish friends thing is clear to me now, but it was not back then.

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on Sat Oct 25th 2014 at 04:30:50 Pay It Forward

You’re welcome, Legion. 🙂

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on Mon Oct 27th 2014 at 13:21:10 jefe

@Legion,

I got a real gift from my exchange … on the China thread, I seriously treasure the exchange I had … there.

You never shared what that was. When you looked like you were getting p155ed off I just dropped it.

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on Tue Oct 28th 2014 at 19:06:43 Legion

^Not so. We resumed the discussion and I’m glad we did. Why? Because, somehow I was able to let go much of the resentment I was still carrying, that is what the gift was.

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on Tue Oct 28th 2014 at 20:17:24 Legion

…hmm

I would have to go back to the thread to see the path of the discussion (it veered to another thread as well briefly). But anyway, the net result was that I was able to let go of much of the resentment I still had, a fine thing to have happened!

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on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 05:32:31 Legion

(not to mention just)

I don’t see that it would be just; I think it would be generous, perhaps, but not just.

I don’t want to debate, I just wanted to give my opinion too.

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on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 05:40:23 Legion

Abagond said:Not everyone who disagrees with you is necessarily evil or stupid.

Trying to frame me as a villain is not an explanation of why you didn’t see something that was not hard to see at the time.

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on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 20:04:17 Legion

Sharina, I am posting the comment in maybe two parts (i didn’t want to risk losing one long comment). Problem is the first comment has gone into moderation.

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on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 20:06:20 Legion

I think it’s in moderation because I used the word “doll”. I will carry on as though the thing will come out of moderation. Hopefully it does and then you’ll have an answer that makes sense.

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on Thu Oct 30th 2014 at 20:07:12 Legion

but wait. I just used word d0ll up there^

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on Sat Nov 1st 2014 at 20:31:03 sharinalr

@ Linda

You managed to sum up my feelings except that I refused to follow it up and just kind of drifted away. A complete refusal to get involved on my part.

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on Sun Nov 2nd 2014 at 09:56:54 Pay it Forward

@ abagond,

My apologies for my role in creating the ruckus on your blog. I am often too quick and perhaps a little too diligent in defending myself against bullies, since I, as a chubby kid, was frequently bullied, beaten, and otherwise mistreated at the hands of others, including several adult family members, while growing up.

Most of us have our own sob stories, however, the reason you are just now learning of mine is because I never saw any value in plastering them all over your blog’s comment sections.

And there is no need to fret or anything, as I am not returning as a commenter, but I do feel a need to acknowledge comments in this thread that mention my username.

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on Sun Nov 2nd 2014 at 17:27:02 Linda

Pay It Forward,

Thank you for understanding.

I truly don’t blame you for what happened — you saw an issue, you brought it up and it needed to be addressed.

I wish you would reconsider your position and come back or at least, don’t be a stranger and drop in every once in while when time/life permits.

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on Sun Nov 2nd 2014 at 17:46:14 Linda

Legion, you’re Welcome..

like I said, I Respect you for putting yourself out there – and after reading your comments, I knew I couldn’t let you stand Alone.

and I really don’t feel guilty or bad…I admit to my selfishness by looking the other way, with no qualms.

and I admit, that if you did not speak out, I would have remained silent on the issue – so in a way, I have to Thank you for being the first one to open the door and helping me to “man up”

Sharina:
you weren’t alone, because trust, I was bound and determined to slink away from the issue 🙂

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on Sun Nov 9th 2014 at 16:28:58 v8driver

kinda curious why my recommendations in Welcome to Native American Heritage Month 2014 got erased?

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on Sun Nov 9th 2014 at 19:55:20 abagond

@ v8driver

No sign of it at my end.

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on Mon Nov 10th 2014 at 09:24:32 jefe

I saw it mentioned in another thread that B.R. got banned, but I don’t remember when or for what. Does anyone have the link for the action? Was it a violation of the comment policy?

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on Mon Nov 10th 2014 at 21:20:42 v8driver

ok it was probably from my phone np

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on Mon Nov 10th 2014 at 23:03:39 Omnipresent

Is BR Banned?

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on Tue Nov 11th 2014 at 19:14:54 Omnipresent

Kiwi

I get how B.R could be seen as a pain in the ar$e. He’s obstinate and hard headed but I always attributed it to his age because I figure he must be getting on a bit and so stuck in his ways. And the way there is always a lot of repetition which I find is something that people do when they get older.

It not about ‘caring’ just out of curiosity really.

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on Tue Nov 11th 2014 at 22:39:59 Omnipresent

Kiwi

Being ‘principled’ is a good thing, I can respect that in a person but obstinance or hardheadedness can cloud peoples judgment entirely so for someone of a certain age already stuck in their ways, it will take an earthquake for them to change.

I do agree that a lot of the dialogue between him and other commenters made for very uncomfortable reading though

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on Wed Nov 12th 2014 at 21:58:59 abagond

B.R. is not currently banned.

He was banned from about May 2010 to March 2012. I unbanned him because I came to see that Thad had egged him into losing his cool, knowing I would ban him.

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on Thu Nov 13th 2014 at 18:50:04 Legion

@ Pay it Forward and Linda

Thank you so very much, both of you, for your kind words. I too am moved by reading what you have both said to me. In fact, I was at a loss as to how to respond for a while, then I realized my sincere thanks is probably enough.

—————————————————

Abagond, could you please email Linda and Pay it Forward, that a message is in this thread for them.

Linda and Pif, no need to respond. I just wanted you both to know I am appreciative and grateful to both of you.

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on Fri Nov 14th 2014 at 06:03:58 jefe

Thanks for the explanation about B.R.’s banning status.

I guess he got egged again into losing his cool, but not by a single commenter this time.

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on Wed Nov 19th 2014 at 07:17:57 Legion

@ Abagond

Did you send the e-mail to Pif and Linda?

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on Wed Nov 19th 2014 at 19:16:26 Linda

Legion, I read your last comment…no worries

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on Tue Dec 30th 2014 at 18:02:08 sharinalr

@ Abagond

In the Are Muslims more violent than Christians? Did purplehaze have a comment directed at me and if you don’t mind am I allowed to view it? I won’t respond back I just wanted to see it.

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on Tue Dec 30th 2014 at 18:09:30 abagond

@ Sharina

PurpleHaze said:

“George I can’t decide if you are the joke for trying to provide reason with a brain washed Liberal who only thinks A or B is the answer or if you were actually serious.”

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on Tue Dec 30th 2014 at 18:24:08 sharinalr

@abagond

And another one. 🙂

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on Wed Dec 31st 2014 at 17:49:29 v8driver

ive been having some actual comments, not just some drunkin one-offs being just like … dissappearing, oh well got a few stacked up… anyway happy nye

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on Wed Dec 31st 2014 at 19:46:11 sharinalr

Well V8 I had been wondering if you up and disappeared on us. Good to know you have not.

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on Wed Jan 7th 2015 at 21:33:31 abagond

Jay / Daz is banned for using sock puppets

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on Sat Jan 10th 2015 at 14:31:11 sharinalr

@Abagond

Thank you for deleting that last comment. I think it is best I go on to ignore George.

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 12:10:39 abagond

twobells is banned for plagiarism.

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 12:43:12 jefe

To be honest, this time I was surprised to see a commenter banned so quickly. The policy above says that you reserve the right to delete comments that are plagiarized (which you did), but a commenter is supposed to be banned after repeat violations of the comment policy and after ignoring warnings.

Wouldn’t the normal course be to throw the relevant commenter’s submissions into moderation until after they demonstrate that they do not commit the same violation or did not heed any warnings? This banning came really swift.

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 13:00:07 abagond

@ Jefe

Twobells was unrepentant:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/#comment-273421

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 13:24:14 jefe

Yes, I saw that, but did not see the comment that you deleted, so most of us will not know how he plagiarized.

But the comment policy says nothing about being unrepentant. It talks about repeat violations and failure to heed warnings. Others have suggested that you argued in poor faith after deleting one of their comments, but it did not lead to their immediate banishment (at least not until a few more warnings).

I am not trying to defend him in any way, but this swift banishment looked like it was done more out of anger than out of repeat violation of comment policy and failure to heed warnings. It just looked that way.

OK, I’ll drop it now – a blogger needs to run his blog as he sees fit.

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 14:31:42 abagond

@ Jefe

He cut and pasted this article without attribution and with the author’s name removed:

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html

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on Mon Jan 12th 2015 at 14:51:00 abagond

@ Jefe

I ban people when it becomes clear they are not going to follow the rules. Twobells would not even admit that what he did was wrong but instead tried to turn it on me. A bad sign over and above his plagiarism.

Maybe I am in a bad mood, but I do not see the point in giving a second chance to someone who will not admit that what he did was wrong. Also, as you probably know, my experiences with giving plagiarists and sock puppets a second chance have not been good ones.

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on Tue Jan 13th 2015 at 16:38:12 jefe

That link is pretty heavy stuff and looks hate mongering. I don’t see why the relevant commenter didn’t simply supply a link and express what he agreed with and did not agree with. I still don’t get why people need to copy stuff verbatim and claim it is their own.

Not that I take the message in that link seriously, but at the same time, that link has piqued my curiosity about certain things, I would like to learn more about what happened in those countries where the different religions met up face to face, like Christianity and Islam in the Philippines, Hinduism and Islam in south Asia and Indonesia, Islam and Buddhism in southern Thailand, and what happens in officially atheist states like China. The opinion piece claimed that the muslims were ALWAYS the violent murderous ones. I know that is not the actual case.

I know this is off topic here. I only replied here as the link was placed here. If I go further I will move to the other thread.

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on Wed Jan 21st 2015 at 07:03:09 Legion

@ Abagond

Twobells would not even admit that what he did was wrong but instead tried to turn it on me. A bad sign over and above his plagiarism.

Very unpleasant to have this done to oneself, isn’t it? Yes indeed, quite unpleasant. And it put you in a bad mood too, huh? Gee, poor you.

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on Thu Jan 29th 2015 at 01:17:39 abagond

George Ryder is banned.

I told him:

“Please do not call Sharina anything but her name. This is a warning. I have deleted more than enough of your childish comments. Next time I will simply ban you. I am not your babysitter.”

Source:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/are-christians-more-violent-than-muslims/#comment-273476

He said

“sorry resw77 that last comment was not directed at you but at the lady in the plaid skirt.”

Source:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/the-isis-papers/#comment-275162

and:

“& i wouldn’t speak too much with that plaid skirt lady, she’s nuts.”

Source:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/the-isis-papers/#comment-275162

And then, for the gazillionth time, proceeded to insult her:

“stupid is as stupid does sharinalr

you can’t tell a psycho she’s crazy

a hit dog will holler

a fool & her money are soon parted”

Source:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/the-isis-papers/#comment-275174

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on Thu Jan 29th 2015 at 19:17:05 abagond

Added:

“I reserve the right to delete comments that are:

…
about another commenter’s sex life or psychiatric condition,”

Saying someone is “nuts” or “crazy” or “out of their mind”, etc, is all right since they do not imply an actual need for psychiatric intervention.

More specific insults, like about meds or therapists or use of clinical terms, are not all right.

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on Fri Jan 30th 2015 at 14:25:02 Kwamla

I have to applaud you Abagond in your use of transparency here to show the process involved in coming to your banning decision.

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on Sun Mar 15th 2015 at 21:20:55 Linda

Abagond, it’s your blog

but is banning Veronica the right thing to do. I think she used “V” because she is upset and wants to be heard

Other people have done worse and have gotten warnings

and even if right now she is being confrontational, she brings a new and fresh voice to the subjects at hand

I hate to see new commenters get banned when long time trolls, resident race realist get to stay and disrupt to their hearts content

just my 2 cents

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on Sun Mar 15th 2015 at 21:23:26 abagond

@ Veronica / V

You are BANNED for using a sock puppet. And for trying to get around moderation.

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on Sun Mar 15th 2015 at 21:28:38 abagond

@ Linda

She is bad news. She was flooding my moderation queue with her foul mouth, and called a commenter a beige roach. That I could have forgiven if she brought it down a few notches after a day or so of moderation, but she instantly went around my moderation, which means she thinks she above the rules. She is OUT.

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on Mon Mar 16th 2015 at 10:45:01 abagond

I gave Veronica a warning and put her under moderation:

“@ Veronica

You REALLY need to take it down a few notches.

Please read the comment policy.

Your comments are moderated till further notice.”

Source:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/blackoutday/#comment-279075

It was only when she purposely went around my moderation that I banned her.

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on Tue Mar 17th 2015 at 07:53:32 abagond

Emme banned as a Veronica sock puppet.

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on Tue Mar 17th 2015 at 17:02:41 abagond

Thwack is banned as a self-confessed troll:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/blackoutday/#comment-279064

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on Thu Mar 19th 2015 at 11:39:04 jefe

Just wondering, should we mention in the comment policy that one may be banned for hinting that they are a troll?

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on Thu Mar 19th 2015 at 12:01:34 abagond

@ Jefe

Updated. Thanks.

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on Thu Mar 19th 2015 at 15:28:47 Benjamin

I found my most recent comment was “awaiting moderation”, whereas my previous ones were not. Was this because the conversation that resw77 and I had on the Herodotus post went off topic? Or did I break the rules in some other area? Thanks.

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on Sun Mar 29th 2015 at 11:38:45 Monitorsan

In speaking of genocide, you must speak of the ongoing genocide that is the plight of Palestinians by the racist regime of Israel. Their story is that of Native Americans. In 1838, the Cherokee and other native peoples of east US experienced their “trail of tears.” One hundred plus years later, 1948, Palestinians experienced the Nakba, the forced removal from their lands. Obviously the 2014 Israeli war on Gaza, killing 2200 Palestinians–500+ children, is Israel’s continued genocide of Palestinians. Read “Road to Genocide” by A. Clare Brandabur.

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on Sun Mar 29th 2015 at 16:29:35 v8driver

i been having some problems posting, don’t know where that test post thing you had used to be or if i said something awkward?

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on Mon Mar 30th 2015 at 22:58:31 abagond

@ v8driver

The spam filter thinks you are Thwack – sometimes your IP address is close to the ones he used. I will keep a close eye on it.

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on Thu Apr 2nd 2015 at 01:13:53 sharinalr

@ abagond

Just made a post on a thread and it says I have a duplicate but the post does not appear. The post should go into moderation due to the links, but I can usually see it still. I can’t see it at all.

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on Thu Apr 2nd 2015 at 02:56:33 abagond

@ sharina

You had a comment that appeared to be empty. I deleted it.

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on Thu Apr 2nd 2015 at 02:58:09 abagond

@ sharina

And you had one in the spam filter that just came out of moderation.

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 01:57:55 lifelearner

just testing …. http://funmozar.com/wpcontent/uploads/2014/08/Beautiful-flower-02.jpg

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 02:03:15 lifelearner

[img]http://funmozar.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Beautiful-flower-02.jpg[/img]

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 02:16:31 lifelearner

I think I got it! 😀

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 02:21:02 lifelearner

<img src=http://cdn.photolabels.co/images/www.designzzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Flowers__by_spacedude89.jpg

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 02:21:37 lifelearner

boo!!! good night :p

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on Sat Apr 4th 2015 at 02:25:40 lifelearner
on Mon Apr 20th 2015 at 02:26:54 lifelearner

http://blackourstory.tumblr.com/image/116810829464

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on Thu Apr 30th 2015 at 20:53:53 abagond

Louis Farrakhan follower /
idownloadpicturesandpassthemoffasmbecauseimgenuine /
icutoffmyheadcauseimgenuine /
fakemormonwhoneedslove /
leroy

is banned for using sock puppets.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Fri May 1st 2015 at 19:20:28 abagond

Comments by mariareginacd from April 13th 2015 and before have been deleted at her request.

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on Thu May 14th 2015 at 19:39:45 sharinalr

@Abagond

Could you email pay it forward and tell her I miss her and wish her well?

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on Sun May 31st 2015 at 19:53:48 Linda

Abagond, can you fix the problem, sort of weird making comments that I can’t see

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on Mon Jun 1st 2015 at 01:09:26 Linda

Abagond, still having the same issue.

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on Mon Jun 1st 2015 at 01:25:54 abagond

@ Linda

Please send a comment with just the word “Test” and I will look into it further.

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on Mon Jun 1st 2015 at 01:44:19 Linda

Test

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on Mon Jun 1st 2015 at 03:31:10 abagond

@ Linda

You should be good now. Please let me know if you still have any problems.

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on Thu Jun 11th 2015 at 17:09:44 abagond

@ Kiwi

Your new IP address was close to that of a banned commenter. If you still have problems let me know.

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on Sun Jun 21st 2015 at 03:39:32 Roland

@Abagond,
I’m white and have been following your blog a while now. I have the hardest time getting other white people to understand how denigrating to people of color the term “Wh*te Tr*sh” is even though I explain and they just don’t get it. Do you happen to already have a piece on your blog that I could direct them to? Thank you in advance.

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on Fri Jul 10th 2015 at 18:43:47 abagond

Sango Kainde is banned

for spamming this blog, making the same off-topic comment on nine threads (four of them after being warned).

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Wed Jul 15th 2015 at 13:57:55 abagond

rick / lhunter

is banned for using sock puppets.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Fri Aug 7th 2015 at 01:07:32 sharinalr

@Abagond

I keep getting the can not post this commentioned message.

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on Fri Aug 7th 2015 at 03:31:28 abagond

@ Sharina

Hmm. I do not see anything at my end. You do not have any recent comments in moderation or the spam filter.

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on Wed Aug 12th 2015 at 12:27:33 abagond

George Ryder’s comments have been deleted from this blog. His name is now a moderated word.

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on Sun Aug 16th 2015 at 04:04:48 abagond

Added calice, tabarnak and merde to the list of moderated words.

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on Sat Aug 29th 2015 at 19:17:01 abagond

The commenter Truth is banned.

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on Sun Oct 4th 2015 at 17:28:42 taotesan

@ Abagond

May I suggest that ‘savage’ be a moderated word?The prolific use of it by the troll, epgah is very demeaning.

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on Sun Oct 4th 2015 at 20:55:49 abagond

Note: thug, terrorist and savage are now moderated words. Too often they are little more than glorified racist slurs.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/02/05/the-term-thug/

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/the-term-terrorist/

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on Sun Oct 4th 2015 at 21:02:41 taotesan

@Abagond

Thank you!

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on Mon Oct 5th 2015 at 01:16:25 abagond

EPGAH is banned for plagiarism.

Compare:

EPGAH at
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/10/01/black-power/#comment-295858

“Eric Holder, held in contempt of Congress, sued states that attempted to enforce purposely unenforced federal law, never provided all Fast and Furious documents requested, and hid behind heavily redacted papers as well as Presidential “Executive Privilege,” bent downward the justice curve of the office of Attorney General.”

That was in his own voice. It was unquoted and unattributed.

James Longstreet at the American Thinker at
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/08/loretta_lynchs_black_panther_moment.html#ixzz3nddQqqDv

“Eric Holder, who was held in contempt of Congress, who sued states that attempted to enforce purposely unenforced federal law, never provided all Fast and Furious documents requested, and hid behind heavily redacted papers as well as Presidential “executive privilege,” bent downward the justice curve of the office of Attorney General.”

Thanks to taotesan for catching this!

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on Mon Oct 5th 2015 at 11:03:45 taotesan

You are welcome, Abagond. In my grandiosity, feeling like a small time Jacob Grossman at Al Capone’s indictment for tax evasion.

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on Mon Nov 16th 2015 at 11:13:06 abagond

tdog / Nathan t is banned for using sock puppets.

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on Mon Nov 16th 2015 at 11:29:36 abagond

Update: I reserve the right to delete comments with pictures of dead or disfigured bodies or links to such material.

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on Tue Nov 17th 2015 at 02:05:14 Herneith

Thank you, I find such pictures sickening.

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on Tue Nov 17th 2015 at 12:42:27 abagond

Everett F. Pomare is banned as a source of spam.

More:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/11/15/top-mass-murders-of-2015/#comment-300388

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on Wed Dec 2nd 2015 at 23:15:03 abagond

Update: I reserve the right to delete comments that are necrophilic.

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on Wed Jan 6th 2016 at 07:12:55 munubantu

This is a BLOCKQUOTE!

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on Sat Jan 9th 2016 at 01:46:23 abagond

Update: maricón is a moderated word.

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on Sat Jan 23rd 2016 at 21:54:23 abagond

Henceforth, “Bulanik” is a name that shall not be uttered on this blog, along with the three other Unmentionables.

Any comment that uses her name will be deleted, retroactive to October 1st 2014.

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on Tue Jun 28th 2016 at 19:16:55 abagond

Update: I reserve the right to delete any comments about genitals.

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on Fri Jul 1st 2016 at 19:08:43 abagond

Bobby M is banned.

He is either unable to or uninterested in calling people by their right names. He also seems unable to stop talking about genitals.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/06/28/joseph-kahahawai/#comment-319120

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on Mon Aug 1st 2016 at 23:03:58 abagond

Rage / loftus / John Almeida is banned as a sock puppet.

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on Thu Aug 4th 2016 at 04:13:44 abagond

karen is banned for repeatedly going off-topic.

See:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/12/02/sally-hemings/#comment-322215

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on Wed Aug 24th 2016 at 20:27:18 abagond

Added “asshole” as a moderated word.

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on Thu Aug 25th 2016 at 12:58:56 Herneith

How about a festering anal aperture?

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 00:50:05 Solitaire

@ Abagond

I am switching e-mail addresses but not my username.

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 00:50:58 Solitaire

And I like this gravatar so much better! Whoot!

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 00:52:54 abagond

@ Solitaire

“I am switching e-mail addresses but not my username.”

Okay. Thanks for the heads-up.

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 00:57:29 Solitaire

@ Herneith

I’m currently reading a book called “Holy Sh*t! A Brief History of Swearing” by Melissa Mohr. I highly recommend it. I’ve already learned so many new words! None of which are on Abagond’s moderation list!

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 01:50:03 Herneith

Fantastic! I have always said that there are thousands of ways to cuss people out without using actual cuss words!

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 01:54:41 Solitaire

Oh, these are actual cuss words, just obsolete, obscure, and archaic.

My new favorite actually uses a word still considered improper: “Turds in your teeth!” Apparently a very popular insult in Shakespeare’s time.

Turds in your teeth, Donald Trump!!!

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on Thu Sep 8th 2016 at 02:08:49 Herneith

Trump the caitiff! Sard off Donald you beardsplitter!

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on Sat Sep 10th 2016 at 23:22:22 Solitaire

@ Herneith

He is a plugtail and a right rantallion, and that thing on top his head is one large fartleberry.

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on Sun Sep 11th 2016 at 00:18:45 Herneith

Pestis! Furcifer! Cacator! My Latin is a bit rusty!

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on Sun Sep 11th 2016 at 00:24:47 Herneith

Rantillion, nice one! Fartleberry or clingon!

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on Sun Sep 11th 2016 at 00:45:37 Solitaire

Someone needs to pay hecklers to follow Trump around yelling “beardsplitter” and “fartleberry.”

See, this is what I’d do if I were rich. Why waste money on private jets and caviar when you can torment Donald Trump while simultaneously improving the nation’s vocabulary?

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on Sat Oct 1st 2016 at 06:45:28 Legion

test

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on Tue Nov 29th 2016 at 19:21:57 abagond

Everything in moderation has just been deleted. Going forward all moderated comments will be deleted to avoid the appearance of hypocrisy or favouritism.

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on Wed Nov 30th 2016 at 20:51:48 resw

Don’t worry. As long as you continue espousing your love for Hillary, abagond will continue allowing you and all the other white racist trolls to break the rules.

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on Wed Dec 7th 2016 at 20:11:23 abagond

Added:

– I reserve the right to ban those who use a proxy server.

– I reserve the right to delete comments from other sources that are over 500 words long.

– I reserve the right to delete comments that use people’s wrong names (an old policy, but added only just now to this page).

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on Thu Dec 8th 2016 at 18:57:56 resw

And what’s the motivation for banning those using a proxy server for privacy and security purposes?

Is it because a commenter who didn’t support Hillary like you frequently uses one?

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on Thu Dec 8th 2016 at 19:49:06 abagond

@resw

1. You know, right, that it has been a month now since Hillary Clinton lost? Why do you keep keep bringing her up?

2. Some genuine, serious commenters, like Matari, have used proxy servers, so I am not going to ban all proxy server users out of hand. But it is the mark of a professional troll and, in my experience, a definite red flag.

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on Thu Dec 8th 2016 at 20:56:31 resw

@abagond

“Why do you keep bringing her up?”

Probably the same reason you keep sniping at and unfairly treating people who don’t love her like you do.

“Some genuine, serious commenters…”

Some genuine, serious and fair bloggers don’t keep making up new rules targeted at commenters who tell truths about your Hillary.

“But it is a mark of a professional troll…”

Right, I forgot you’re an expert on all things trolls, especially the Russian ones. I just hope you don’t think anyone is buying your bull.

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on Thu Dec 8th 2016 at 22:01:25 abagond

@ resw

The proxy stuff is not retroactive. It only applies to NEW commenters who act suspiciously like trolls.

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on Thu Dec 8th 2016 at 23:13:18 resw

@abagond

Thanks for making up that new stipulation to the new rule you just made up. Hope that saves face for you among the few remaining commenters who still believe you’re unbiased.

Since it’s not codified, all I ask is that you don’t dishonestly delete your previous comment and then use the use of proxy servers as a basis to ban your old commenters.

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on Tue Dec 13th 2016 at 19:30:25 Baron Waste

I am a straight white male Reagan Republican gun-owner who voted against Hillary, and I am genuinely thankful that I live in a country where your world-view and mine may freely co-exist, and both be expressed.

You’re bookmarked. I’m reading.

All we got to say on this proposition is this: first, me and you is as good as
anybody else, and maybe a damn sight better; second, nobody ain’t got no
right to take away none of our rights; third, every man has got a right to live, to
come and go as he pleases, and to have a good time whichever way he likes,
so long as he don’t interfere with nobody else. That any government that don’t
give a man them rights ain’t worth a damn; also, people ought to choose the
kind of government they want themselves, and nobody else ought to have no
say in the matter. That whenever any government don’t do this, then the
people have got a right to give it the bum’s rush and put in one that will take
care of their interests…

H L Mencken, “The Declaration of Independence in American”

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 03:29:20 Herneith

Figures you’d quote that white supremacist goof:

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-12-05/news/mn-198_1_h-l-mencken

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 10:39:17 Baron Waste

It figures that I’d quote that particular work, regardless of its author.

“We are a nation that has a government — not the other way around. And this
makes us special among the nations of the Earth. Our Government has no
power except that granted it by the people.”

– President Ronald Reagan

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government
big enough to take away everything that you have.”

– President Gerald R Ford

As to the article you quoted, you may not have read it to its end:

Mencken regularly published black writers in American Mercury and
persuaded his publisher, Alfred A. Knopf, to publish their books. The last
article he wrote for the Evening Sun in 1948 attacked segregation laws in
Baltimore.

But the diary discloses Mencken’s “deeply ingrained conviction that black
people were by their very nature inferior to white,” Fecher wrote.

Which was a standard view of the time, along with canals on Mars and that rockets needed air to push against and thus would not work in outer space. How he would have anachronistically arrived at 21st century views on these subjects, I doubt you could answer. [Give him an Android while you’re at it. It’s no greater an impossibility!] In fact he was progressive for his time, as the article points out.

But again, the article itself is what mattered.

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 10:46:00 Baron Waste

It figures that I’d quote that particular work, regardless of its author.

“We are a nation that has a government — not the other way around. And this makes us special among the nations of the Earth. Our Government has no power except that granted it by the people.”

– President Ronald Reagan

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”

– President Gerald R Ford

As to the article you quoted, you may not have read it to its end:

Mencken regularly published black writers in American Mercury and persuaded his publisher, Alfred A. Knopf, to publish their books. The last article he wrote for the Evening Sun in 1948 attacked segregation laws in Baltimore.

But the diary discloses Mencken’s “deeply ingrained conviction that black
people were by their very nature inferior to white,” Fecher wrote.

Which was a standard view of the time, along with canals on Mars and that rockets needed air to push against and thus would not work in outer space. How he would have anachronistically arrived at 21st century views on these subjects, I doubt you could answer. [Give him an Android while you’re at it. It’s no greater an impossibility!] In fact he was progressive for his time, as the article points out.

But again, the essay itself is what mattered.

Updated to add: Mr Abagond, this edited comment may appear below the first rendition, and if so I do apologize – I’m still learning WordPress’ way of doing things.

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 13:56:42 Herneith

‘It was the times!’, excuse. Heard that before.

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 14:39:59 Baron Waste

… Was that meant as a rebuttal of some sort? Or was it just a pointless observation? (I’ve “heard things before” also. Most people have. So what?)

– Did you brush your teeth today? How about yesterday? Five hundred years ago. people had never heard of such a thing. They took it as God’s Will that the teeth you had at fifteen were rotted out by thirty. Moreover, dyes were not colorfast and clothes were not Sanforized®, so getting your clothes wet would shrink and smear and ruin them – so they never washed their clothes. Nor themselves – one bath in winter and two in summer was high rolling. When Queen Elizabeth I died, the attendants who bathed her body for burial, people who were used to this as a lifestyle were nauseated.

Bad teeth exhaling the stench of rotting food and gum disease. Unutterably filthy clothing wrapped layer upon layer over bodies just as filthy, lousy [I’ll leave the smell of female lack of hygiene to your imagination.]

Now imagine a crowded marketplace or theatre audience on a hot summer day – with horse and cattle dung thrown in as well. You would throw up!

It was, indeed, the times. Yeah. And times have changed since then. Aren’t you glad?

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 15:54:46 abagond

@ Mr Waste

This thread is about the comment policy. Please comment on the Open Thread instead:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/

Thank you.

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 16:00:38 abagond

@ Mr Waste

I just deleted your comment. Please take it to the Open Thread (see above).

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on Wed Dec 14th 2016 at 16:09:47 Baron Waste

Mr Abagond:

Thank you, sir, I will do as you say – if the need arises. Here my introductory purpose is served, and I’m quite happy to call it a day… and go back to spelunking around your blog! All sorts of interesting things here.

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on Tue Dec 27th 2016 at 18:14:03 Afrofem

@Abagond

How can commenters add inline links like the one Satanforce used in this comment?

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/fritz-haber/#comment-361501

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on Mon Jan 9th 2017 at 16:49:11 resw

Gro jo has broken the comment policy repeatedly, calling nomad “nono”, and abagond still turns a blind eye:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/12/31/2016/#comment-362419
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/programming-note-30/#comment-360045
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/programming-note-30/#comment-360065
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/23/programming-note-30/#comment-360074
etc. etc.

In the not so distant past, abagond quickly deleted comments “using people’s wrong names”.

So this is yet another example how abagond has one set of rules for a select few, and another set of rules for those who tell truths that abagond does not want to hear.

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on Mon Jan 9th 2017 at 16:54:36 abagond

@ resw

Thanks. I deleted those comments.

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on Mon Jan 9th 2017 at 17:18:36 resw

You’d think someone like abagond who often writes about injustice would actually practice justice on his own volition, instead of only doing it when people call out his unjust acts.

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on Mon Jan 9th 2017 at 17:34:52 resw

Within seconds of my posting the comment above DEMONSTRATING how abagond was not enforcing his comment policy on a certain commenter, abagond deleted a comment I made elsewhere, FALSELY accusing me of advertising.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/01/05/black-americans/#comment-362428

These are the types of deceitful, vindictive things abagond has been doing for months against people who told truths he did not want to hear.

Not to mention, he’s never once enforced his anti-advertising policy against his colleague and favourite racist, lord of mirkwood, who has been advertising his own crappy blog for over a year now:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/01/28/bernie-sanders/#comment-308411
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/us-geography/#comment-299277
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/us-geography/#comment-316276
etc.

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on Mon Jan 23rd 2017 at 19:42:15 Sharina

Getting the error can’t post comment.

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on Tue Jan 31st 2017 at 15:28:43 resw

“If you are an established commenter, one who has been here a while whose name I recognize, I will say why I deleted your comment. Established or not, you are always free to dispute a deletion.”

Another policy that abagond ignores, and yet another example of his hypocrisy.

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on Tue Jan 31st 2017 at 19:53:38 resw

@”repeatedly violating the comment policy.”

For months gro jo has repeatedly defied the “using people’s wrong names” policy as I have noted above and is still doing it:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/obama-retrospective/#comment-364021

“Deleted a comment here and on the Black Liberal thread where you used a moderated word to address another commenter. Please use a commenter’s right name or shortened version thereof”

No action was taken against gro jo until I called out abagond’s hypocrisy.

No warnings or threats of being banned were ever made to gro jo for “repeatedly violating the comment policy”.

It’s just another example that there’s one set of rules for gro jo and those who worked for and/or defended abagond’s boss and another for those who told truths that abagond did not want to hear.

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on Thu Feb 9th 2017 at 16:07:33 resw

“If your comment does not appear after 24 hours please let me know!”

It’s been over 24 hours and comments still haven’t appeared (still not as long as the 48 hour wait I had last week).

No doubt this is payback for calling him out on his LIES the other day:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/01/20/guide-to-trump/#comment-364473

And his HYPOCRISY:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/01/20/guide-to-trump/#comment-364518

Instead of being petty and vindictive in reaction to me telling the truth, why doesn’t abagond just stop lying and being hypocritical so much?

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on Thu Feb 9th 2017 at 19:39:38 abagond

@ resw

My apologies.

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on Mon Feb 13th 2017 at 02:45:48 Afrofem

@Abagond

“Mea Culpa!”

Sometimes I get on a soapbox and lose track of the original topic. I will be more mindful of topic drift in the future.

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on Mon Feb 13th 2017 at 03:33:54 Solitaire

@ Abagond

Same here. When the thread drifts, I have been negligent in shifting elsewhere unless you officially declare the drift off-topic and redirect it. In the future I will work on being more proactive in moving to a different thread before you have to put the hammer down.

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on Thu Feb 16th 2017 at 05:45:29 resw

Abagond is once again allowing scribh… aka lord of mirkwood free reign to use “insulting language” with a “moderated word”:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/breitbart-news-diet/#comment-365286
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/breitbart-news-diet/#comment-365277

Since abagond has been quick to delete “insulting language” with a “moderated word”, this is further proof there’s one set of rules for his racist colleagues and another set of rules for those who tell truths he does not want to hear.

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on Fri Feb 24th 2017 at 14:21:58 Solitaire

@ Abagond

Do I have a comment stuck in mod or the spam filter?

I think this would be the link for it:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/02/10/doomsday-clock/#comment-365776

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on Thu Mar 9th 2017 at 04:17:20 resw

Here’s yet another example showing abagond’s comment policy bias.

When abagond was caught allowing his campaign colleague scribh aka lord of mirkwood to use French, his lame excuse was:

“As to the “oui” in your example, it hardly requires translation” https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/#comment-366309

I guess abagond thought I didn’t know there was plenty more where that came from, for example: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/frances-cress-welsing/#comment-305529

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on Wed Mar 15th 2017 at 18:09:15 resw

It’s already well established that abagond grants special privileges to his racist campaign colleagues, but here’s yet another of dozens and dozens of examples:

“Use a moderated word:”

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/03/02/russiagate/comment-page-1/#comment-367154

“about another commenter’s sex life or psychiatric condition”

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/03/02/russiagate/comment-page-1/#comment-367168

Here we are several months after the election, and abagond is still treating commenters who told truths about his boss unfairly. When will he finally get over it?

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on Thu Mar 30th 2017 at 12:28:34 Sharinalr

@Abagond

Sorry about the name change. I accidentally forgot to check what it had at sign in.

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on Thu Mar 30th 2017 at 16:54:23 abagond

@ Sharina

Thank you.

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on Wed Apr 19th 2017 at 18:44:02 resw

As we can see from this thread, “idiot” has long been a moderated word:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/#comment-210755

Abagond even explained why: “Because it is used by drive-by trolls.”

Abagond has deleted many comments for use of this word, such as this one as recently as late 2016:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/08/23/reverse-racism/#comment-332996

But since his campaign colleagues love calling truth tellers idiots, he recently granted his colleagues an exception to the rule, but when called out on it, he sneakily removed “idiot” from the moderated word list: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-flight-3411/#comment-368923

Yet another example of abagond’s deceit and biased policy enforcement. More to come…

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on Wed Apr 19th 2017 at 21:19:42 resw

Abagond once said, “The way to disagree with someone is to disagee with their STATEMENTS…Not with their grammar or spelling”

So when people outside his campaign team do it, he’s quick to label it as “off topic”: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/12/02/sally-hemings/#comment-322019

And even bans people for doing it repeatedly: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2006/12/02/sally-hemings/#comment-322215

But those rules don’t apply to his favourite white racist troll scribh aka lord of mirkwood who does it constantly does it without even a warning:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-flight-3411/#comment-369165
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-flight-3411/#comment-369168
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-flight-3411/#comment-369190
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/02/13/breitbart-news-diet/#comment-365263
https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/#comment-366411
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/bernie-sanders-and-black-voters/#comment-297789

etc.

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on Thu Apr 27th 2017 at 04:51:27 abagond

@ resw

“Idiot” used to be a moderated word to catch trolls. But since you complain when I do not strictly enforce the comment policy, I took it off the list. And now you complain again.

The purpose of the comment policy is to keep down trolling. It is not supposed to become an auto-immune disorder driving off ordinary commenters.

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on Thu Apr 27th 2017 at 04:54:03 abagond

@ resw

“Abagond once said, “The way to disagree with someone is to disagee with their STATEMENTS…Not with their grammar or spelling””

That is advice, not part of the comment policy.

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on Sun Apr 30th 2017 at 02:15:49 resw

@”That is advice, not part of the comment policy.”

You don’t say! Yet that didn’t stop you from using that “advice” as a basis to label as off topic and delete people’s comments. Except, of course, scribh aka lord of mirkwood’s.

Good try though.

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on Sun Apr 30th 2017 at 17:15:27 resw

@abagond

“But since you complain when I do not strictly enforce the comment policy”

Actually, I could care less whether or not you “strictly enforce the comment policy” as long as it’s done universally. I only have a problem with your strict enforcement on some of us, but not your besties.

It’s all about fairness, something I thought the old abagond valued.

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on Tue May 2nd 2017 at 03:26:42 Solitaire

@ Abagond

Do I have a comment stuck in mod or the spam filter?

I think the url would be https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/05/01/welcome-to-asian-american-history-month-2017/comment-page-1/#comment-370123

It hasn’t been anywhere near 24 hours and I apologize for the impatience — but my computer did something weird when I was trying to submit it. I’m afraid the comment may have gotten lost in the ether.

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on Tue May 2nd 2017 at 04:50:29 abagond

@ Solitaire

No comment at this end.

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on Tue May 2nd 2017 at 06:46:55 Solitaire

@ Abagond

I was afraid of that. Thanks for checking. I’ll try to rewrite it tomorrow.

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on Wed May 3rd 2017 at 15:06:05 resw

Abagond is still granting special privileges to his white racist colleague, scribh aka lord of mirkwood, who was caught passing off a line of a W.B. Yeats poem as his own: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/19/bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-369894

Abagond rushed to the defence of his fellow plagiarist with the following weak excuse: “Ordinarily I would not check a phrase as short as “Things fall apart, the center cannot hold”, but even when I do, there are over 30,000 hits, which makes it seem like common English wording.”

Since that excuse has nothing to do with plagiarism and the fact that his fellow plagiarist even admitted he stole it from a W.B. Yeats poem, this is yet another example of abagond’s completely biased enforcement of the comment policy.

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on Wed May 3rd 2017 at 16:44:37 abagond

Just for the record, here is my plagiarism test:

“In practice this is how I determine if a comment is plagiarized: I cut and paste about 20 words of the suspected comment into Google and see what pops up. If I find the same or almost the same wording from a source that does not seem to be the commenter himself, I count it as plagiarism.”

See:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/19/bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-370122

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on Wed May 3rd 2017 at 17:02:09 resw

“Just for the record”, abagond’s “plagiarism test” has nothing to do with plagiarism. And his fellow plagiarist admitted (after he was caught) he stole it from Yeats: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/19/bill-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-370087

And his excuse was: “This line from The Second Coming is such common cultural currency that anyone should have known I was not trying to pass it off as my own.”

Here was abagond’s response to a similar example where another commenter attributed the unquoted text to the owner (something scribh aka lord of mirkwood did not do)

“Deleted the Margaret Kimberley comment. It was unclear whether you were quoting her or talking about her. Please use quote marks and throw us a link”

“https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/21/normalizing-trump/#comment-360320

One rule for the plagiarist and abagond’s posse, a separate rule for the rest of us.

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on Sun May 21st 2017 at 01:35:22 abagond

unwantedtg / Paul Joseph Watson

is banned for using sock puppets.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Tue May 30th 2017 at 01:19:38 abagond

RoarShack (I twisted my own name) / Rorschach

is banned since he has no intention of abiding by the comment policy:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-371947

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on Wed Jun 14th 2017 at 20:20:01 resw

Here’s more proof of abagond’s comment policy double standards:

Abagond was quick to tell nomad he was off topic today: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/06/11/abagond-used-to-be-great-but-has-devolved/comment-page-1/#comment-373663

No problem there.

But when kiwi derailed the Ghost Dance thread, which had nothing to do with blacks oppressing Asians, to start yapping about blacks oppressing Asians, I said:

“And of course abagond is quick to tell nomad when something’s “OFF TOPIC” but silent here. I wonder why?”

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/ghost-dance/#comment-361011

Abagond’s response was not to label kiwi’s racist, anti-black rhetoric as off topic, but to make up a phony excuse why it was on topic:

“I think relative privilege and questions of racial hierarchy and so on are on-topic here. It does not seem that Kiwi is just trying to troll the thread or deflect from serious issues.”

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/ghost-dance/#comment-361175

When challenged on that, abagond retorted:

“Get real. I have let you and others speak out against Hillary Clinton AT LENGTH.”

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/ghost-dance/#comment-361202

As if that were true or relevant.

So why is there one rule for kiwi, etc. but another rule for nomad, etc.?

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on Wed Jun 14th 2017 at 20:38:08 resw

Abagond was recently proven wrong as he was reminded (with evidence) that his attack squad member scribh aka lord of mirkwood was always the initial aggressor in any exchanges between us:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/03/20/pinky/#comment-367582
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/programming-note-32/#comment-369741
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/04/23/programming-note-32/#comment-369741

So too was the case when abagond refused to moderate his initial attack against me using a disgusting moderated word.

So another commenter called him out on it, “An Scríbhneoir Gael-Mheiriceánach, used terms such as ” f ucking… f ucking f ucks”! I was censored for less. THIS IS NOT A CALL TO CENSOR An Scríbhneoir Gael-Mheiriceánach, just an observation of the hypocrisy of your ‘moderation’” [and yes those moderated words were hurled at me–“unprovoked”]

And abagond finally got around to moderating it to save face.

So the double standards continue, as well as the initial personal attacks by both abagond and his attack squad.

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on Wed Jun 14th 2017 at 20:42:07 resw

^And here’s the thread where that last incident occurred:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/03/11/media-guide-for-the-trump-era/#comment-371687

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on Thu Jun 15th 2017 at 23:37:26 sharinalr

Abagond

Why are all my comments going to moderation?

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on Tue Jun 27th 2017 at 12:44:53 abagond

Resw and nomad are banned:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/06/27/i-am-banning-resw-and-nomad/

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on Mon Jul 10th 2017 at 12:49:04 abagond

I am banning Lord of Mirkwood, aka An Scríbhneoir Gael-Mheiriceánach:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/07/10/my-apologies/

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on Mon Jul 10th 2017 at 16:06:30 Solitaire

@ Abagond

Since last night, all my comments seem to be going straight to mod (although I’m not getting the notification that sometimes appears).

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on Mon Jul 10th 2017 at 17:12:59 abagond

@ Solitaire

You use an IP address extremely similar to a past troll. You should be good now.

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on Mon Jul 10th 2017 at 17:34:17 Solitaire

@ Abagond

Thanks for fixing it.

I think when I’m on my phone or using our wireless hotspot, the ISP isn’t always the same? At least it seems that way on my end, because Google sometimes thinks I’m a couple hundred miles from where I really am.

I don’t know if that’s the same as a proxy server or not.

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on Mon Jul 10th 2017 at 18:28:28 Solitaire

Or maybe above I should have said the IP address instead of the ISP is what seems to be changing. Sorry, I’m not terribly computer literate….

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on Thu Aug 10th 2017 at 15:41:23 Afrofem

@ Abagond

Please cancel my email request to delete this comment:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/#comment-377474

I would like for it to remain.

Thanks

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on Thu Aug 10th 2017 at 16:33:22 abagond

@ Afrofem

“Please cancel my email request to delete this comment:”

I was just about to do this!

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on Sat Aug 12th 2017 at 21:39:59 Afrofem

@ Abagond

Whew! I’m glad I wrote to you when I did.

Thanks, again.

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on Sun Nov 26th 2017 at 03:40:58 abagond

anarchyst is banned for plagiarism:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/11/24/whitopia/comment-page-1/#comment-385425

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on Mon Dec 18th 2017 at 14:14:28 v8driver

@abagond any helpful hints, tips and tricks, for searching this site, especially in regards to things one has posted oneself, sometimes I sure would like to cite or refer back to my own plateaus of lucidity now and again.

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on Fri Feb 2nd 2018 at 17:19:03 abagond

Katherine Johnson / Taotesan

is banned as a sock puppet..

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Fri Mar 2nd 2018 at 16:53:57 lifelearner

https://tenor.com/view/wakanda-forever-black-panther-gif-10892015

https://tenor.com/view/wakanda-forever-black-panther-gif-10892015

blah blah blah

*practicing

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on Fri Mar 2nd 2018 at 16:58:44 lifelearner

Wakanda Forever Black Panther GIF from Wakandaforever GIFs

https://tenor.com/embed.js

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on Fri Mar 2nd 2018 at 19:41:31 Becca Camarto

@abagond, we can speak here?

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on Fri Mar 2nd 2018 at 22:45:04 abagond

@ Becca Camarto

Speak, troll.

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on Fri Mar 2nd 2018 at 22:49:41 abagond

@lifelearner

For image links to embed on their own they need to end in .jpg, .gif or .png.

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on Tue Mar 6th 2018 at 18:46:10 Becca Camarto

I’m no troll, I’m using my unique account – I closed the others at wordpress request, Yet I’m kicked out. Also, since when I trolled recently? I only said to Mary Burrel calm down but she acted negativatly.

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on Mon Jun 4th 2018 at 17:29:40 abagond

Update: I reserve the right to ban any NEW commenter who uses a fake email address.

Notes:

#1. All those who commented on or before June 4th 2018 are grandfathered in. So if you are using a fake email address, PLEASE do NOT change it. I would rather the avatars remain consistent. And if you do need to change your email address for some reason, please warn me.

#2. I have neither the time nor inclination to verify all email addresses. In practice I would only verify the email addresses of suspected trolls and sock puppets.

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on Tue Jun 5th 2018 at 01:28:29 abagond

Josh Hollow / Jamal e Brooks / gerald

is banned for using sock puppets.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/comment-policy/

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on Sat Sep 22nd 2018 at 17:16:10 abagond

Daniel Jones is banned.

See:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/oriana-farrell/comment-page-1/#comment-406755

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on Mon Apr 29th 2019 at 16:48:04 etta james

I’m going to petition y’all you gave this pale bastardy a site to go to comment racism on them,

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on Mon Apr 29th 2019 at 16:56:22 etta james

This mess is not a good thing all this comments here is in one race I’d people and u do not know why you allow this mess on your site, unless you love it how we are targeted, this mess about other race you shouldn’t even allowed,we are tired of these pale people messing with us dailyso you must be racist yourself to allow these vicious racist slurs to be posted, man talk of rape, you did more raping to the slaves than one ugly Irish woman, this site needs to be looked into, looks like you have this site for racist people to degrade us

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on Thu Jul 4th 2019 at 16:48:02 bigbig40boy

And white people say China censorship is bad, they don’t have nothing on censorship in. White America.

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on Fri Jul 5th 2019 at 11:14:33 Herneith

Put it to music and compose a concerto!

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on Wed Jul 10th 2019 at 12:51:40 Neurostis.com

I’m amazed, I must say. Seldom do I encounter a blog that’s both equally educative and amusing, and without a doubt, you’ve hit the nail on the head.

The problem is an issue that too few men and women are speaking intelligently about.
I am very happy I stumbled across this during my hunt for something relating to this.

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on Wed Sep 25th 2019 at 13:16:01 abagond

Update: Added pendejo as moderated word.

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on Wed Mar 18th 2020 at 16:12:21 Afrofem

Hi Abagond,

Please delete these comments:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2020/03/10/the-coronavirus/comment-page-1/#comment-434879

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2020/03/10/the-coronavirus/comment-page-1/#comment-434880

And this one. Thanks!

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on Wed Mar 18th 2020 at 19:25:32 abagond

@ Afrofem

Removed.

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on Tue Mar 31st 2020 at 19:45:09 Afrofem

Hi Abagond,

Not getting the purple avatar when I add my email address and screen name.

I tried Safari and Firefox and still get a green avatar. Any way to recover the purple one?

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on Tue Mar 31st 2020 at 19:46:47 Afrofem

Hmm. It shows up here. I will try again on the Trump-Coronavirus thread.

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on Tue Mar 31st 2020 at 21:15:25 abagond

@ Afrofem

Your avatar, unless you set it yourself, is based on your email address.

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on Tue Mar 31st 2020 at 21:15:25 abagond

@ Afrofem

Your avatar, unless you set it yourself, is based on your email address.

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on Wed Apr 1st 2020 at 03:55:53 Afrofem

@ Abagond

Thanks.

The purple avatar is showing on posted comments. It used to pop up next to the email field, before posting.

Oh well.

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on Wed Apr 22nd 2020 at 21:20:01 abagond

Update: I reserve the right to delete comments that quote more than 250 words from a given source (a possible copyright violation).

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on Tue Aug 4th 2020 at 08:32:03 Solitaire

Test

⚬this is a test
⚬this is only a test

Let’s see what the results are of this test

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on Sun Aug 9th 2020 at 02:23:12 Solitaire

@ Abagond

#5 to go to the spam filter, apparently:

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/oriana-farrell/comment-page-1/#comment-465896

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on Sun Aug 9th 2020 at 19:59:19 Solitaire

@ Abagond

And I just now had three more on the same thread that didn’t go through.

They are all variations of the same comment, so two of them can be deleted if you find all three.

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on Tue Oct 27th 2020 at 05:15:57 Afrofem

@ Abagond

I want to embed a Sound Cloud player on a thread. Do they chew up resources and slow down your site like YouTube videos? If so, I will post the long quote in text format.

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on Wed Oct 28th 2020 at 12:51:30 abagond

@ Afrofem

If in doubt, put the link inside of parentheses. But, if you want, you can emed it and see. I can always put it in parens later.

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on Wed Oct 28th 2020 at 17:14:32 Afrofem

@ Abagond

Thanks!

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on Mon Dec 21st 2020 at 21:25:33 Afrofem

@ Abagond

I spent some time over the past few weeks reading selected posts from your blog. This morning I clicked on the 2010 “Why I Write About Racism” post. Your description of Dr. Beverly Tatum’s five-stage cycle of growing up Black in America made me think about how long you have been on the “racism beat”.

Writing about White supremacy, racist ideology and anti-Blackness can be exhausting. Especially when you delve deep into the subject matter—-which you have done for more than a decade. Even writing (only!) 500 words means you had to research, read, compile and condense reams of source material.

Abagond, have you reached another stage five (internalization-commitment)? Are you ready to move onto other subjects? If you are, I want to convey this to you:

I’m glad I followed links years ago and came across your blog. I’ve experienced several rounds of the five stages. Reading deep into your “back catalog”, commenting and interacting with other fellow travelers has been quite an education for me. Thank you for facilitating that process.

Because of my own interests, I’m in perpetual stage 3 immersion mode. My most surprising discovery is the fact that the rationale and methods of White supremacy has remained constant for over 345 years, as has Black resistance.

No matter your next direction, I want to express my appreciation for the body of work you have produced. Your work has been most illuminating.

Thank you, Abagond.

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on Wed Dec 23rd 2020 at 02:41:49 abagond

@ Afrofem

Thank you for your encouraging words.

Stage #5 – “now you can move beyond race” – I have not yet hit it the second time. I am still in stage #4.

https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/why-i-write-about-racism/

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on Sat Apr 24th 2021 at 23:29:28 Broken Records: Arguments About Race | Marmalade

[…] you are new here you should read the Comment Policy. You might want to see the Reader’s Guide [Read this! Many criticisms have already been […]

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on Thu Dec 23rd 2021 at 22:23:46 abagond

Update: If your comment does not appear, tell me in a comment that begins with the word “abagond” (so I can find it in the spam filter, which I usually check once a day).

Explanation: This blog is flooded with spam. Especially about cialis and tadalafil. The only way you can cut through that is to use my name.

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on Sun Jun 19th 2022 at 22:11:47 Afrofem

@ Abagond

I posted two identical comments with one link in the Mythic Past thread. Neither showed up.

Did I trip some unseen wire?

Please daylight one and delete the other.

Thanks

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on Thu Jan 5th 2023 at 19:39:57 Solitaire

Test:

The Mystic Past is a test.

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on Thu Feb 9th 2023 at 04:51:25 Solitaire

Test

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on Thu Feb 9th 2023 at 04:59:57 Solitaire

Test 2

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