Emotional Negro Thinking (ENT) is a cognitive disorder common among people of visible African descent in North America.
Have you ever noticed:
- How blacks are oversensitive?
- How they get angry about stuff that is no big deal?
- How it is like walking on eggshells with them?
- How whites are fair and neutral and calm while blacks are not?
That is because they suffer from ENT.
Symptoms:
- Oversensitive to perceived slights
- High blood pressure
- Talking while angry
- Hatred towards white people
- Overconfidence and overblown self-image
- Poor judgement and decision making
- Failure to face facts and take responsibility
- Failure to use facts and reasons to come to the correct conclusions
- Failure to agree with white people
- Lack of a neutral, objective point of view
- Feel-good thinking preferred over reality-based thinking
- Imagining stuff – like racism
Remarks:
- Black people are like children. They do not think in terms of facts and reasons. They just get angry and stamp their feet like a child, expecting the whole world to stop and listen to them. They can only see things from their own point of view. They cannot put themselves into another person’s shoes. They are overconfident and cannot think ahead, making poor decisions – and then blame others for their mess! Their hatred and anger further clouds their judgement.
- ENT makes it hard for most blacks to lead productive lives in American society, despite all the the government help they get. It is why Africa has always been a backward hellhole in constant need of outside help.
- Not all blacks suffer from this condition. Thomas Sowell, for example, can be just as objective and logical as any white person. The same with most of the articulate, well-dressed black people on cable news. Most black leaders do not suffer from ENT either, but take advantage of it among the black masses for their own gain.
- ENT is why blacks, for their own good, require firm moral guidance from whites. Punishment and discipline have to be much more strict and severe because of their limited mental functioning (and bad parenting). Punishment is pretty much the only thing they understand. It is not as if you can reason with them. Their overblown self-image makes them incapable of admitting to any fault.
Causes:
There are several theories:
- Evolution: Living in the tropics is so easy that their brains have never evolved beyond that of children. Testing shows that the average IQ of black Africans is 70, meaning they have the mind of an 11-year-old child. Even with all the advantages of Western society and education, like in America, that average does not get much above 85.
- Environmental toxins. Black children are far more likely to grow up near places that have been poisoned by industry. Lead paint is more common in their homes too. So is poor diet.
- Lack of discipline at home and school limits the effects of education.
- Whites suffer from ECT and yet assume they are being objective, making it seem like blacks suffer from ENT.
Cure:
- Unknown.
Disclaimer: For those not familiar with this blog, this post was meant as parody of a common white racist trope.
See also:
LOL!!!!!
Abagond, you made my morning!
“Whites suffer from ECT….”
LOL!!!!!
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This. Is. Brilliant.
Love it!!!!! 😎
I complimented a topic…I guess that makes me an ‘Abagonite’ – LMFAO
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Summed it up very nicely. Thank you.
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@abagond:
I saw on tv in USA that blacks are also very good dancers because they have the rhythm in their blood and also they are very good athletes because they are so close the natural human condition. I think this must be true because I saw on tv in America.
However, I don’t know why whites are so poor dancers. We have rhythm too as anyone can see from the polka music and military marches, famously in nazi Germany and in USSR.
We are also equally good athletes. Whites dominate chess because it requiers superb intelligence and extreme durability of the gluteus maximus, that is butt cheeks. We also dominate car racing because we go everywhere in cars where as black folks walk because they can afford nor know how to drive cars.
And just in case somebody doesn not get it, I am jokin of course.
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@ Sam
Television shows about Negro life produced by White Americans are breathtaking in their accuracy, scholarship, honesty and insight. Truly amazing, especially when you consider that most of them live in communities that are less than 1% black.
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I wish American television would really show black American culture with its music and dances….its pretty much non existant
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By the way, great satire, Abagond, definitly in a league with SatinForce
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Spell my name right. Or there will be consequences…….
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Countdown to the race realist racists to come and prove yet another post: T – 60 mins.
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Are you questioning a white man’s ability to spell, SForce?
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Except for #4, this is the only post so far that does not suffer from ENT. I think you finally hit the nail on the head as to what the problem is. Now that you finally admit your own faults you are on the road to success is I’m the civilized world. Sorry but you are going to have to find that success on your own like the other races have though because it would not be “equal” or “fair” to the others. Back on the boat now. I wish you luck back on the most fertile and resource rich continent on the planet.
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Didnt you get Destuctures memo ( I think it was him) that white people by the natural grace of God, are better spellers than …..anyone?
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you forgot, “Riots for what they don’t like”
“Fear of the last Air Jordan Sold”
Stabbings and fights results of air jordans and over emotions. over a pair of shoes.. who spends over 115 dollars too 130, there was fights and stabbings.
white people buying new IPAD.. Orderly and peaceful.
OVER SHOES! the only people who makes black people look bad is black people them selves.. this probbly has nothing to do with the topic, and I will more then likely be looked at as a racist.. and you also think I am generalizing black people. the sad thing is.. incidents like the “Air Jordans”, happen at least once a year.
All races have mob mentality and I am not denying that at all. its what you do during the mob mentality that defines a person, or a group, or even a whole city. like so if Zimmerman was found not guilty, Florida will more then likely become a war zone.
The fuel of this will be such organizations are the “New Black Panther Party” Who in which should be investigated and torn apart, because the fact they put a bounty on a man who was at the time currently innocent, is nothing more then Domestic Terrorism.
if it was the other way around, if Treyvon was white and Zimmerman was
black, it would more then likely get the same attention and if the KKK put up the same 10,000 dollar bounty then it would be evil and riots would happen (in my opinion that is, don’t forget you already decided I am racist bigot”)
Think what you want to think.
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….on the money, Brothawolf
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I think Uncle Rufus doesnt quite get the concept of satire
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Yeah….neo-troll ‘Stephen Haws’ now wants to claim that there should only be ‘riots for a cause’…LMFAO
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Hey, everybody! White people only riot for VALID REASONS, such as this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/16/vancouver-riots-2011_n_877924.html
…or this:
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/02/riot_erupts_at_umass_amherst_f_1.html
I think this is how white racists view the differences between crimes committed by white people, versus crimes committed by black people. See if you can spot the difference in the following satire:
http://teamcoco.com/video/vancouver-hockey-riots
😎
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I don’t want to be a thread derail-er, but I honestly believe that there are some White people like this and some that aren’t. Although I’ve come into contact with a large number of White people that think like this, there seems to be an equally large number that doesn’t think like this – or are willing to have their horizons expanded. Last summer I worked with a White girl (the job was 24/7, on call – summer camp counselors). Less than a week of knowing her she admitted to me that before she came to university she had never seen a Black person before, and then she told me that a lot of the Black people she had met she didn’t like because she didn’t get on with them. By the end of that summer she had learned so much and I, a Black man, became one of her closest friends (to the anger of her semi-prejeduce ex boyfriend lol). Now whenever I pass her in the hallway or library she always stops what she’s doing and makes it a point to come up to me, say hi, give me a hug, and ask how I’m doing. Her one good experience with me changed her entire outlook. I just believe that a lot of White people (not all, but a lot) that come across as racist are like that because they haven’t had any positive one on one dialogue with a Black person. In which case it’s not so much a “color thing”, but a cultural thing.
And as far as ENT, despite it being a parody on how some White people view Blacks I believe that in some cases it is absolutely true. Example: my landlord’s (Asian woman) boyfriend (Black man) is 29, going 30 soon. He played football for his university and was working out a professional deal with the coach that was training him. A couple of months ago I attended one of the games with his girlfriend. Apparently his teammate tackled the rival player, and the player said “get off of me you Black cunt”. The teammate who was sworn at pushed the other player and got sent off the field. The landlord’s boyfriend took it upon himself to curse at the referee, tell his coach to “fuck off”, and then throw the ball at the ref. He was then disheartened when he got sacked at the end of the game, stating that the referee was racist and now his big shot chances were dead in the water. Could the referee have had a racial bias? Sure. Is that the reason why you were suspended? NO. You were suspended because you 1) jumped into an altercation that had nothing to do with you 2) verbally attacked your coach and 3) physically assaulted the referee with the ball. WTF? When the game was done I was honestly embarassed by his actions, considering he’s a full 10 years older than me and should be conducting himself better. So in that case, yes – he showed symptoms for Emotional Negro Thinking – and that sh*t was disgraceful; he could have handled she situation so much better. Now not only will that player from the rival team (who was obviously racist from the start) just have further “confirmation” of Blacks being inferior / childlike, but everyone there who came to see the game that isn’t Black probably went home with their own thoughts on the matter (which probably weren’t any better).
Abagond man, I love your blog and I appreciate the way you tackle issues that face Black people in America, but on the flipside I’ve seen *A LOT* of Black people do the exact things that you bash White people for *thinking* Black people do. So at the end of the day I think there needs to be more positive dialogue between all racial and ethnic groups; and in my opinion, this article doesn’t really make any room for discussion of that nature.
Peace.
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Here is a perfect example of ENT
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120412/ARTICLES/120419865/0/frontpage
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Hold on, is this bullshit for real??? if it is just another example of republican nazis what I have read joking or not sucks. There is NO room for this kind of joking it can lead the wrong way.
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Oh my gosh, Uncle Rufus is so right! He sure educated me!
Black people need to just stop with that ENT and be fair to the other races by doing everything on their own, just like white people did! Yep yep, yep, remember the better times when white people just got where they did on their own, without any laws, codes or house slaves to do the work for them? I sure do! In my imagination!
By the way:
You all remember the good old days when white people used to riot for good reasons, unlike uppity black people? You know, like losing (or winning) sport events? Ah, I remember how white people used to know how to really pick their battles! Like, lynching teenagers! See, what you guys need to learn is that white people are the only ones who know anything about black people! Black people have the minds of children, so of course they should naturally defer to the whitest face in the room!
Everyone knows that ENT is what’s kept black people back, not any bias, statistics, or uneducated bigots who are put in charge of stuff they shouldn’t have been!
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This is a perfect post. There is no way for racists to respond to this without just looking stupid. Well, more than usual.
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To B. R. :
I wish American television would really show black American culture with its music and dances….its pretty much non existant..
Ahh the dancing techniques of Whites should be sufficient entertainment for you:
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@ Abagond
I have the perfect cartoon for you for this post.
http://leftycartoons.com/at-the-bus-stop/
EXCELLENT post, by the way. Excellent!
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The comments on this thread are literally making me laugh out loud! Ohhhh, you guys aren’t playing today! No sir. No ma’am! 😛
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@ Darqbeauty,
That cartoon cracks me up.
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Liked the cartoon too….
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@ darqbeauty.
I’m truly laughing my lungs out! That cartoon is so funny, and it makes you reflect as well, unfortunately that’s how things are! Poor lady, atleast she was concerned about her action!
I must admit; great post abagond, i really loved the satire. It really amuses me because most of my friends and colleagues who are not blacks have all of those syndromes, even worse! So, how can that be explained? Whites (not all) came up with that crap just to justify their untenable and unwarrantable misconduct towards black people as a whole.Unfortunately sometimes (some) blacks just serve us to them on a silver platter by acting that way.
I just hope blacks can learn to contradict their belief about us by acting in the right way because they(not all) truly get disappointed and crestfallen when a black person doesn’t fall into their stereotypical way of seeing us due to what they’ve been thought by society and media.
I could remember, one day I was with a group of friends, and we saw a group of black friends chatting and laughing, and one of the people i was with said” why are they laughing, do they realise that they’re blacks? I don’t think there’s anything good, lucky or funny about that!” I was baffled. Maybe he forgot about my presence, and the rest told him that i was black and always happy, good humoured and always smiling. So he apologised and said that he was only joking.
Same thing happened one day when i was walking with this collegue and a well dressed black guy drove by with a very flashy Ferrari car, and this was what my colleague said” Oh, how i hate that guy that just drove by! So i asked him, do you know him and why do you hate him? And to my surprise he said, i don’t know him but i hate him because he’s black and his driving a car like that! I love blacks who are opposite of him, i thought what he said wasn’t real but unfortunately it was, and he quickly added, ” well, i was only kidding!” but i could read from his face and voice that he wasn’t.
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@Uncle Milton:
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@ Bell,
Well a huge part of the “anger” that white racists feel towards black people and their “attitude” is that black people aren’t “under their thumb” anymore. They “liked” black people when they had to serve white people and it was still correct to call black people any degrading name in the book. They liked black people when black people couldn’t do anything about how they were treated. They like black people who prove their “inferiority” by being poor and living in ghettos (how else can they prove how much better white people are?). Any black person being happy, proud, or better off than they are really burns them because black people should hate themselves and exist purely to reaffirm their racist ego.
Hence where ENT kicks in.
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I hear a lot of complaining but I’m not hearing any solutions
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@Badwolf
Thank you.
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@ Ace
I’d also like to add one thing to your astute comment.
Whites will deny to no end that any black person having black pride threatens their whiteness.
Since white is superior, being proud of anything else other than white is an outright insult.
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@ BadWolf,
Do you have any? I can’t speak for anyone else, but I would like to hear what your solutions would be. I myself don’t have any other than giving each other a collective cold shoulder. However, I am often accused of having a pessimistic view point on certain things, so I am open to hear suggestions from others.
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“…so I am open to hear suggestions from others.”
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Same here!!!
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@ Darq
If I may…
No solution is probable. Too much damage has been done in the name of money and hatred. How can you honestly make up for centuries of pain, death, missed opportunities, future generations and their opportunities?
And the blatant continuation of that hatred, evil and emotional violence?
What does one say? Ooooops?
I for one have given up on any amendments.
It will never happen. In some ways, this blog has opened my eyes to the ways of the wicked. I’ve had so many instances where I’ve seen the evil minds and hearts of white Americans, I’m exhausted. God must destroy us all and start over fresh.
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“God must destroy us all and start over fresh.”
Why should we have to perish for their sins? I am in favor of the collective mutual cold shoulder. I would like for them to be left to their own devices with no one to blame for their slip ups. The rest of the global community can start making strides in the right sans the umbrella of white supremacy looming over us. But again, I know I have a somewhat pessimistic attitude.
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White racialists aren’t angry, they think they are being ‘logical and reasonable’ when discussing race and we are being emotional especially when they ‘cut and paste’ racial statistics to prove their points that 38 million African- Americans are running amuck killing and committing crimes against ‘Real Americans’.
If you offer up anything refuting thier statistics , ( they most likely got them from Wikipedia) they fiegn ignorance and say “your community should focus on these issues” , like they know what’s best for African- Americans. These people are predictable and aren’t that bright outside of their cut and paste albilites. Great blog abagond, hopefully I may post more even though there are a lot of white racialist trolls lurking here.
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Really funny, Uncle Milton, Herneith and Darqbeauty
Ace, isnt that something, those white hocky fans will riot after winning the cup !! What is that all about !!??
I dont know about solutions, people , but please dont ban me to a life of having to hang with only white people, with their weird ways of having fun, you know, lighting farts, mooning out of passing cars, drinking beers and just screaming for nothing, saying things like “you are darn skippy…”, playing golf and going fishing ( no offence to golfers and fishers I just have really cooler things I like to do),
I started to actualy really apreciete the surfer thing, that is as about as close as I can think to some white people having soul, then I realised it was a sport invented by brown skin people…
I mean, nothing against white people, I am one, I just know there is a great big beautiful alive world beyond “whiteness”
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And you know, I love myself and my race, the human race
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@ Darqbeauty,
I’m the sort that believes that there’s a chance at true reconciliation. Yes, I’ve already brought a soapbox:
I also recognize that for that to be a true possibility, there has to be some sort of humility on the part of white people. They have a lot to answer for, and racism won’t go away as long as they are too afraid to just sit down, be honest, and look at why it’s still a problem and actually help find a solution.
No I don’t mean find a solution as in tell black people what to think or think that being nice to a black waitress gets them a medal. I mean genuinely sitting down, looking at themselves and realizing that there’s a whole world out there beyond themselves and their culture, and they don’t have the right to pretend the entire universe was reserved for only them. Humility. Black people (and other races) have spent too long sitting there with arms open asking for better treatment. Why should white people have to be prodded or begged to act decent? Why can’t they just be humble, and just treat someone with darker skin like they’d like to be treated themselves? Many problems would be solved if people would just think, “How would I want to be treated?”
As long as they just view the situation as a case of “ENT” instead of viewing things from a perspective that doesn’t favor the privilege they (deep in side) are too scared to lose, they won’t have that “Kumbaya” they keep asking for.
@ B.R.
Well, as we all know, winning cups is the thing to get emotional about.
Also, I agree completely. There are things beyond “whiteness” and people shouldn’t have to defer to it in order to have a happy existence.
(Also, surfing is awesome. I am not so awesome at it. However, I am a decent golfer.)
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Truthbetold brought this up on another thread but it applies here too: Tim Wise.
He can repeat word for word what a black person says and NOT be seen as an emotional thinker. He can disagree with mass white opinion and still be seen as objective and rational.
He would be the first to admit that people like Maya Angelou, Angela Davis or Malcolm X have far more wisdom and insight than he could ever hope to have – and yet each are assumed to be imprisoned by their skin as something they can never rise above while Wise, like most white men, is assumed to be completely unaffected by his white skin.
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Although I based this post on the ways black opinion is discounted by whites, it is, in effect, a restatement of Derrick Bell’s first two Rules of Racial Standing:
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Dear ,,,
This is a bunch of BS, pardon my French. Most people 98% spend 98% of their time just trying to live their life, raise their kids, make a little more money do they can pass something along. We are not that messed up because of the trauma we have suffered if that were so 1) they would have had to shoot every Jew who came out of the concentration camps because there would be no coming back from that 2) the same for every slave after the civil war. I could name countless more who have made the sacrifices in my past to afford me my life. They wore their scars like medals of honor and went forward into an uncertain world. So effing what if they , that doesn’t say a thing about you that says something about them and don’t worry about them evolution always takes care of the stupid. Just don’t be stupid yourself and things will work out.
That is the solution just live your life to the fullest. They’re not out to get you, not because of any high minded morality but because you’re not worth it and they’re too lazy. Count your wins and keep moving on.
Not saying things won’t go wrong but keep your wits about you and should do all right in the long run
ps: what’s wrong with money?
How is that for a solution?
Sorry for the rant.
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The truth is rich white men are just as “emotional” and imprisoned by their skin and driven by self-interest in their thinking as everyone else. But unlike everyone else they have the power to have it presented as neutral and objective, to have it stand as the centre point of all thought and opinion, to have it taken seriously no matter how brainless it is.
For example, the idea that Mexican immigrants, not corporations sending jobs overseas, are the true enemy of American workers is completely laughable. Yet people take it seriously. Why? Because rich white men push it as a serious opinion since it serves their self-interest. But it is generally not seen that way. Instead it is “part of the debate”. It is like the Emperor’s New Clothes.
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The solution, at least at the individual level, is for whites to give blacks the benefit of the doubt, to put themselves in their shoes, to presume blacks are just as informed, objective and logical as anyone else (which, yes, is not saying much), to not privilege white opinion, to notice how whites are imprisoned by their skin. That is easier said than done, I know, since some of what blacks say threatens the image whites have of themselves.
My advice to whites is to privilege BLACK opinions, at least as an experiment. Not because blacks are always right and whites always wrong – it is nowhere near that simple – but to counter the biases and presumptions of their own culture and upbringing.
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good points , Abagond, and,I like what you are saying, Ace ( I was just kidding about golf…I just dont do it….actualy, Im a body surfer {note how Im saying that like Im serious, haha} so I dont surf also, but, I love watching it)
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Angela Davis, Maya Angelou, etc, are seen as imprisoned by their skin. And to a degree they are. Yet most whites are even MORE imprisoned by their skin. The reason is simple: blacks in America are forced to take white opinion seriously – at school, at work, on television, etc. Whites, meanwhile, are rarely forced to take black opinion seriously. As bell hooks points out, it is rare for a white person to be forced to listen to a black person talk for more than a half hour.
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I hear what you are saying, , Abagond.Sounds like white peoples minds are in a prison also…a prison they dont know about.
It seems white people have a blind spot about seeing the humanity in other people. The opinions of others dont mean anything to them…
haha at least Doug, Biff, Brahms , Rufus, Mr White etc have to read the opinons on here to answer them…..not much consolation , I know
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@abagond:
“Television shows about Negro life produced by White Americans are breathtaking in their accuracy, scholarship, honesty and insight. Truly amazing, especially when you consider that most of them live in communities that are less than 1% black.”
😀 right on! specially the accuracy and honesty! 😀 😀
We must also remember that He-Man is, after all, a white man, just like Superman too. I saw that too on tv.
And as we watch a regular weekend on NFL or NHL or any european football, sorry soccer, stadium, we can all witness the calm and studious behavior of the white folks and their un emotional rational exchange of ideas and communication. Chants repeated by thousands are clear indications of the controlled emotionality of the white man compared to the over emotional black people who just live for a day and can not behave in controlled way like those football fans or other calm and reasonable white men.
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Here is a reasonable and emotionally stable white man. Actually he was so calm and kept his emotions so well checked that they called him The Ice Man.
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I don’t want people to think I hate black people or that I think they all are bad so here is some recent positive news.
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@ Ace,
“Well a huge part of the “anger” that white racists feel towards black people and their “attitude” is that black people aren’t “under their thumb” anymore. They “liked” black people when they had to serve white people and it was still correct to call black people any degrading name in the book. They liked black people when black people couldn’t do anything about how they were treated. They like black people who prove their “inferiority” by being poor and living in ghettos (how else can they prove how much better white people are?). Any black person being happy, proud, or better off than they are really burns them because black people should hate themselves and exist purely to reaffirm their racist ego”.
Hence where ENT kicks in.
——— truthbetold
@ Ace
I’d also like to add one thing to your astute comment.
Whites will deny to no end that any black person having black pride threatens their whiteness.
Since white is superior, being proud of anything else other than white is an outright insult.
100% CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys hit the nail on the head.
@ BadWolf
I hear a lot of complaining but I’m not hearing any solutions.
I think the solutions are:
1. the “Golden Rule!” Which cites: ” do unto others what you would like them to do unto you”.
2. “And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul……………..and you shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” ( Mark 12:28-31)
And above all, we all should start seeing each other as individuals and understand that factors like: race, colour, religione, ethnicity, etc should be an enrichment for the betterment of the HUMAN RACE and not a division because “together we stand and divided we fall”. Let’s make a better place for the next generation, and that can not be done if we don’t start now; it is never too late!
@ B. R.
“And you know, I love myself and my race, the human race”
Excellent comentent!
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Abagond:
Personally, I wouldn’t attribute such qualities to Tim Wise. I find his commentary to be riddled with emotionalism and fallacy, often embarassingly so.
Further, this then speaks volumes about his adherents who accept such fallacious thinking not with criticism, but fawning praise.
Malcolm X on the other hand comes across as eminently logical and reasonable, particularly in the later speeches of his which I’ve listened to.
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@ B. R.
“And you know, I love myself and my race, the human race”
Pardon, i meant ” excellent comment!” I was in a haste.
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Bell, Im the worst speller on the whole blog,if I expect péople to make sence out of my twisted misspelled words , I can defintily make sence out of what you said…..and thank you
I wonder why a whole lot of white people cant accept black anger, indignation or protest at the absolute opresion and racist atitudes that black people in America have had to endure for so long, and continue to endure ? Do they want black people to just be docile about it and let the white person be the one to speak about it? Are they too ,much in denial that it is too uncomfortable to see black people expressing themselves about it?
Dave, I apreciete you trying to show what you did, I havent seen the video yet but I think you were in the right frame of mind
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Bulanik:
Tim Wise comes across as a venal, exploitative race-grievance careerist who either lacks critical thinking skills, or cynically believes his audience does. I’m not sure which is worse.
I suppose those characteristics could be described as being rather opposite of my own. I’ve nothing to sell and no hunger for applause. I don’t subscribe to any dogmas and am not bothered if a revealed truth contradicts a previous belief.
So I’ll take your comment as being high praise indeed. Thank you.
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@ RANDY
” I find his commentary to be riddled with emotionalism and fallacy, often embarassingly so. ”
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Fair enough.. you’re entitled to your opinions.
Do you have any actual written examples of his emotional and *faulty reasoning* that supports your pov?
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Right-wing White American men also frame women and those on the left as emotional thinkers, as in the expression “bleeding-heart liberals”.
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Matari:
I’m tempted to take back that comment so as not to have to summon the mental energy needed to read and deconstruct Wise. On previous occasions I’ve found it dispiriting.
Abagond:
I generally find that right-wing people suffer from similar types of fallacious thinking, and are just as prone to clinging to dogmas.
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Bulanik:
I’m not nordic and have never advocated violence. Perhaps what bothers you most is that someone like myself won’t fit neatly into your own pre-conceived stereotypes and biases, that is someone who has a different point of view from that of a large, predominantly non-white community but who isn’t a bigot or a racist.
This is creating cognitive dissonance. Maybe an epiphany awaits once you let go of your own dogmas. I’ve been there. It’s freeing.
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@Randy
Perhaps what bothers you most is that someone like myself won’t fit neatly into your own pre-conceived stereotypes and biases,
No dear, it is YOU who perpetuates stereotypes and biases and presents them in hyped up scaremongering propagandist way to suit your agenda.
You come across as emotionally detached Randy and its quite possible that you are not even in touch enough with yourself to realise that you do present yourself as a narrow minded zealot.
From one commenter to another, I suggest you ought to accept this and admit it and then at least what you say on here could be taken in context.
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Randy
“I’m tempted to take back that comment so as not to have to summon the mental energy needed to read and deconstruct Wise. On previous occasions I’ve found it dispiriting.”
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Mental energy required for ready for reading Wise?? You do have ISSUES.. but
we already knew that! LOL
Here, let me help: http://www.timwise.org
I could read TW day and night, the next day, and the day after!! If there were MILLIONS more like him, in terms of his awareness, and willingness to nudge the applecart/status quo, America “might” be a better country.
Meanwhile, I’ll take your response as you taking back your comment – unless you deliver as requested. BTW, are there *any* anti-racists, white or non-white whom you do agree with??
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@Bulanik
The Lost Negro – Yes, how apt. It seems this label applies to European knee – grows in certain eyes….
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@ Randy
You like to present yourself as open-minded, enlightened, neutral, objective, all about facts and reasons, etc, but it is all show. It is more for your own benefit than for ours because you certainly are not fooling us. Once you cut through all that cotton candy you are as racist and unbending as they come this side of the Klan. After several days of arguing with you you MIGHT move your goalposts, but then a week later you quietly move them back.
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@ Dave
Hi, David!
Thanks for yet another video. Booker saving a life, eh?
WOW.
And that comment that you don’t want people to think you are a racist…
Dave, give up now. If you’re like Douglas, you’re one Merlot away from just saying it. But in your case, I’ll wager it’s Budweiser.
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Abagond and Bulanik,
If you really think I’m a racist, then it should be no trouble at all to present a single racist idea which I’ve advocated.
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@ Randy
You’re too sly for that. Too slick.
Unlike Douglas, you won’t drink spirits and be caught “off gaurd”.
That’s why you’re the most dangerous type of racist.
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@ Bulanik, Truthbetold,
The thing I find so funny about that is that we can just point out how he only supports racist arguments on this blog, yet he’s classified anti-racist arguments (almost consistently) as illogical in some way. He’s pretty much used ENT as an argument in every race debate he’s been on in some way shape or form on this blog.
Randy doesn’t use racial epithets, he runs into the trap of thinking that if he doesn’t blatantly call black people names he’s not being racist. He likes to portray racist arguments as the “logical” argument. He has yet to talk down to Dave or Bliff like he does to people here who he knows isn’t white and/or an anti-racist.
@ Randy,
I’ve actually got a suggestion. Why don’t you do your own work, and present a time you’ve commented AGAINST a racist idea, openly, without jumping through hoops or arguing around the conversation? Give me one time you used your “unbiased” point of view to call out the factually unsound claims of the racists who do post here?
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If I remember correctly, Randy has a professed phobia of Jews based on baseless conspiracy theories and revisionist history. That is pretty much Nazi ideology.
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@ Silent Return,
I also remember him implying that Hitler wasn’t really a racist because the Jews are considered white…
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Judaism is a religions with a dives amount of adherents; from the European Jews to the Ethiopian Jews who are descended from one of the tribes of Israel. Saying Jews are white shows profound ignorance. Also Hitler imprisoned Slavs and other ethnic groups other than Jews. He also believed the ‘Aryan race’ was superior to all others which is the definition of racism. Aryans were actually a ancient civilization from northern India; so the blond-blue eye aryanism is fictional.
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sorry
* religion with a diverse demographic of adherents
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Also nobody gives a damn about how racist Hitler was, he was still evil.
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Ace:
You’ve taken the original comment completely out of context.
I was responding to teddy1975 who suggested that the supremacist stereotyping, bigotry, and genocide against the Midianites and Amelekites in the Bible were not examples of “racism” since it didn’t fit the recent modern definition of pertaining to the handful of global races.
Hitler is an example of someone who as recently as the mid-20th century is considered a “racist” even though he did not limit his discrimination to the modern definition.
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@randy:
And in that last response you revelaed yourself neatly.
“Hitler is an example of someone who as recently as the mid-20th century is considered a “racist” even though he did not limit his discrimination to the modern definition.”
Hitler WAS the ultimate modern racist. He not only supported, advocated but based his whole poltical thinking on racism. So called “Race biology” was the very core of Hitler’s thinking and his poltical ideology. He saw the whole world as a set up of racial hierarchy. Nazism was racism. Period.
You think you can defend mr Hitler and white wash him because his racism included people that today are considered as whites but oh no! He was a true blue racist indeed. It is just that for him blacks were semi-animals, not really even humanbeings, and human races were people from there on.
Randy, that slip shows what you really think and how you define racism. If you think mr Hitler was not racist, then we all can see where your claim comes from. If Hitler was not a racist, then neither are you. Unfortunately, you can not alone define what is racism and what Hitler was. Thus, both of you are racists.
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@Randy
Hitler is an example of someone who as recently as the mid-20th century is considered a “racist” even though he did not limit his discrimination to the modern definition.
WHAT
THE
FUCK?!?
You can not be serious! Hitler was the demon spawn of modern racism itself, not to mention anti-semitism! There is no other way around that simple truth. He dedicated his latter life to biological white supremacy and was getting his party to help him do that all over Europe and the world if he had the chance.
I swear to God, if He exists, that only someone so sheltered from reality would make such a statement. I’ve known 4th graders that knew that simple truth.
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sam, Bulanik, and Brothawolf,
Reading comprehension is apparently not your strong suit, so allow me to help.
Nobody is saying anything nice about Hitler. The topic came up when discussing whether the genocides in the Old Testament constituted “racism” even though it’s between differing tribes, and not races in the black-white-asian sense.
Here’s a link to the original conversation : https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/grada-kilomba-on-racism-in-europe/#comment-123649
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Abagond
Notice how Randy cannot address this thread about blacks and their sensitivity so he’s talking about Hitler?
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@Randy
Racism is more that black-white-asian. There are other people as well.
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In my opinion, 90% of everyone on the planet thinks irrationally, and this isn’t limited to any race or races. Most people think emotionally, on nearly every topic, and would be hard pressed to come up with rational reasons for their positions. Such people can be identified in some cases by a preference for rhetoric (Obama is a SOCIALIST!) as opposed to a reason (the statistics I’ve seen show national health plans as increasing debt when structured as Obamacare is) whether or not that reason is accurate. I get kooky right-wing emails from my neighbor all the time, and she thinks she is being rational.
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@randy:
you said:
“Hitler is an example of someone who as recently as the mid-20th century is considered a “racist” even though he did not limit his discrimination to the modern definition.”
Lets see:
you say Hitler is an example of a person who once was considered as a racist, implying that he no longer is considered at present as he was in the past.
You say that he was considered a racist in mid 20th century, in mid 1950’s I assume, and “still”, implying that no longer he is but was back then.
You say “even though” , that is despite of the fact, regardless of the fact, implying that he was not a such a fellow since ( and then comes your reasoning):
“HE DID NOT LIMIT HIS DISCRIMINATION”. Meaning he was not a racist since he did not limit, he did not set clear boundries, he did not draw the line, he did not specify his discrimination. To what? Blacks only?
“the modern definition”. As if there is a modern, or post modern definition of racism which excludes mr Hitler from being a racist.
So you said that mr Hitler is not a racist by modern definition. Meaning mr Hitler was not racist as we know it, understand it, since the term Modern ilmpies that our definition of racism excludes mr Hitler and there fore he is not a racist.
What a croak of s**t.
“Nobody is saying anything nice about Hitler. The topic came up when discussing whether the genocides in the Old Testament constituted “racism” even though it’s between differing tribes, and not races in the black-white-asian sense.”
Well, you just said that mr Hitler is not a racist in a modern, present sense, and we say he was THE MODERN RACIST. Absolute racist. In fact, you can not be more of a racist than mr Hitler was. Now you make excuses about it.
Besides, how an earth you know weather the biblical genocides and massacres were racist by nature or not? Where you there? Are you an expert on historical racism? I do not think so since you claim that mr Hitler was no racist by the modern definition.
The attempt to re-draw the definitions of racism and muddle the concept of racism is an emotional response by you Randy. And, remembering your previous posts here o other threads, one can conclude with pretty big certainty, that you are a racist too.
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Randy, do you consider “Canadian” a racial designation?
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@Joshua
Most human beings know what the truth is, they choose not to acknowledge the obvious. When truth is not respected, folk get emotional. Whites wonder why some of us have razors in our tongues, because, they insult our intelligence. I’m a laidback brotha for the most part, but, i don’t like to be treated like a child. Liars and damn’ liars i have no tolerance for. Try to punk me, i’ll hurt your feelings…Real Talk! Folk get treated a certain way based on what they don’t know. Most whites practice what i call Ass-U-Me…which is why their so-called empire will be defeated. All blacks are not deaf, dumb, and blind. They don’t think like that. However, i want them to continue being in the dark about the thoughts of our people. It’s too our benefit in the long run.
Tyrone
MindScape
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@Tyrone
which is why their so-called empire will be defeated.
Which empire is that, Tyrone?? And how will that help the black community?? If the BC still has high crime, poor school performance, and an entitlement mentality, how would black people advance, even if there were no whites around?
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@ Jay
You can post the Nutter video on the Open Thread (put the link in parentheses). Here it amounts to a derailment.
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Dave,
If you’re still around, it’s too late for that. You’ve made your point loud and clear. You’ve also made your point that you don’t care what we have to say. So, why should we care what you have to say when it’s the usual racist BS?
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Abagond,
I think that’s what Jay was trying to do as that seems to be his goal, derail this post.
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Whites globally–since the beginning of the enslavement and colonization of Africans–have always come up with “scholarly” theories, writings, literature, etc. to prove to themselves that we are sub-human.
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Phoebe: It won’t end. I picked this up from a “Catholic” forum:
What is it Like to Teach Black Students?
by Christopher Jackson
http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html
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@ Joe
This behaviour is no different from poor white students of the south.
Where is the article about them?
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@Joe
I wonder which black school SHE attended.
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@Bliff
“The Enemy Within” is the greatest threat to our race, not whites, asians, etc. Nobody can whup black people except black people. Whites are in bed with the black devils who do harm to our race…killers, rapists, terrorists, child-molesters, war-mongers, and so forth. In essence, we’re fighting a war with our own people, whites and others just happen to be soldiers-in-arms with crab a** black people…Real Talk! As a nation, we’re waging war in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we’re really fighting Iran…Ditto! White folks don’t matter when it’s all said and done…good blackwomen and blackmen must defeat wickedness regardless of their race, nationality, religion, etc.
Tyrone
Free Aquarius
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@Tyrone
If i understood what you wrote, I may or may not agree with you.
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what are you talking about? i’ve never seen anything like this
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ill just leave this here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118501/I-kill-f–Students-death-threats-professor-evolution-class.html
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its all true
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Caucasians in general have an inferiority complex about their world position.if they were secure within their alleged superiority they would not have to shout it to the world so often and so loudly-The Iceman Inheritance-by Michael Bradley
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Every other race, asians, jews, arabs, latinos, and whites have racial cohesion of the likes we simply don’t. Their communities possess stable family structures, economies and an overall sense of self governance and freedom. The only race that does not qualify for any of these parameters is blacks and only blacks. When several of these minority groups have faced equal or worse oppression than blacks and still manage to be successful in their endeavors there’s obviously something wrong.
Whites have historically done their fair share of oppression to blacks just as men have to women and there’s no denying that but blacks today did not experience slavery and have every means available to them to become successful and even use their new found economic power to get back at their so called oppressors if they’d like to just for kicks but they won’t because doing that would be too much work. Instead it’s easier to throw tantrums, constantly complain and demand reparations from white society as if that will ever happen.
It’s naive and shows the childlike, unrealistic minds of most black Americans. If black America really wants self governance like they say they do, they need to examine their problems, the source of their problems, the solutions and the courses of action necessary to carry out those solutions. They need to adapt quickly however as natural selection does exist and those at the bottom of the totem poll that refuse to adapt are always weeded out as history and evolution has shown us (black people are at the very bottom).
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I am sure many racist jackholes would agree and approve of this post.
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Dylan Roof the cave beast murderer who shot nine people in North Carolina in his sick manifesto made reference to black people being racist and stupid always thinking something or someone is racist when white people arenot even thinking about anything such thing. I am sure many racist trolls lit this post thread on fire agreeing and cosigning this parody.
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@Blackninja
“Their communities possess stable family structures, economies and an overall sense of self governance and freedom.”
That’s mostly a myth. In America, red people have the highest divorce rate, and the white divorce rate is only a percentage higher than for blacks. Even though blacks are less likely to marry, a CDC study showed that black fathers who did not live with their children were more involved than white fathers of the same circumstance.
As to unity, blacks are the most unified politically, as over 80% are self-affiliated with democrats, and blacks more religiously unified than whites, with over 83% being Christian, 48% Protestant, and 53% very religious.
I think the problem is blacks are unified on all the wrong things. Perhaps look at starting a separate political party and giving up Christianity would be a good idea.
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@Blackninja
“Every other race, asians, jews, arabs, latinos, and whites have racial cohesion of the likes we simply don’t.” -You mean like the refugees entering Europe to the point where countries want to build borders to keep their fellow man out? That kind of cohesion? Or the kind of cohesion we’ve seen from the US Congress over the past decade?
“Their communities possess stable family structures, economies and an overall sense of self governance and freedom.” -So stable that Greece is bankrupt and threatening to leave the EU as are other countries.. Yes.. so economically stable.. I’m sure you also have data to speak on the stable family structures across all ethnic groups worldwide.. I’ll wait..
“Whites have historically done their fair share of oppression to blacks just as men have to women and there’s no denying that but blacks today did not experience slavery and have every means available to them to become successful and even use their new found economic power to get back at their so called oppressors if they’d like to just for kicks but they won’t because doing that would be too much work.” – So we are just going to ignore Reconstruction, Black Wall Street, Jim Crow, Sun down towns, the civil rights movement, the prison industrial complex, redlining, redistricting, voter disenfranchisement, police brutality, resource disparities and the continual residual effects of slavery that still affects Blacks and other POCs. Despite that, there IS a lot of Black economic empowerment and achievement. Plenty of information out there for you to find before making such an obtuse comment.
“Instead it’s easier to throw tantrums, constantly complain and demand reparations from white society as if that will ever happen. ” – What Black people do you know acting like this? Are Black people a monolith? Is there a daily meeting of Black people with an agenda to demand reparations? I missed the memo… I’m sorry, the Black people I know are working hard and trying to survive within a White Supremacist society. We don’t have time to “constantly complain”. We’re not given that luxury.
“It’s naive and shows the childlike, unrealistic minds of most black Americans.” Ha ha.. I chuckled reading this. Real zinger there….
“If black America really wants self governance like they say they do, they need to examine their problems, the source of their problems, the solutions and the courses of action necessary to carry out those solutions. ” -Do you think preaching to people works? How about worrying about your own backyard instead of coming here trying to tell “Black America” what to do. Oh and please research Black empowerment when you have a moment. You may learn something.
“They need to adapt quickly however as natural selection does exist and those at the bottom of the totem poll that refuse to adapt are always weeded out as history and evolution has shown us (black people are at the very bottom).” -An example of respectability politics at its finest. Come back to this site when you read up on African and African American history. Good luck to you.
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You seem to have it all figured out as I know plenty of white people with the qualities listed above.
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