There are only 34,000 black men in America married to Asian women. That is about one married black man in a hundred. Asian women marry black men at about the same rate. Some number of these men met their wives overseas while serving in the military. Black men are five times more likely to marry an Asian than are black women.
Despite their low numbers they have some famous sons and daughters: Tiger Woods (golfer, Thai mother), Amerie (singer, Korean mother), Hines Ward (football player, Korean), Will Demps (football player, Korean)Tasha Reid (rapper, Korean), Crystal Kay (singer, Korean), Tomika Skanes (video vixen, Korean), La’Shontae Heckard (video vixen, Korean), Kimora Lee Simmons (businesswoman, Korean-Japanese), Sharon Leal (actress, Filipino) and Lou Jing (singer, Chinese).
Steve Sailer, an intellectual skinhead, says that Asian women are the most desirable women and black men are the most desirable men – more desirable than even their white counterparts. He bases that on the amount of body fat men and women of different races have.
That helps him to show why so many white women are with black men and so many white men are with Asian women. But he never stops to ask why the match made in Sailerite heaven – black men and Asian women – is so rare, less than 2% of all interracial marriages.
In an OkCupid study of online dating, Asian women were the least likely to show interest in black men.
Some say it is because Asian parents are even more racist than white ones. I am not sure how you would prove that. Kate Rigg put it this way:
My boyfriend’s Black and there’s gonna be trouble
My parents want to live in a Negro-free bubble
For black servicemen in Asia the circumstances would be different since presumably they would be seen as being more American than black.
Then there are some who say it is because Asian women do not fit black ideas of female beauty. Their bodies in general are too thin. Smooth magazine, a black men’s magazine, lists its top 100 women every year. In 2009 not a single one was clearly Asian – though in the past some have been part Asian, like Tomika Skanes and La’Shontae Heckard.
Even granting all that, there are most certainly black men who love how Asian women look and Asian women who are not about to let racism get in the way of their own happiness.
But maybe it is simpler than all that: As it turns out white men, who so famously have an Asian fetish, marry Asian women at about the same rate as black men: about one married man in a hundred.
But then why do white men seem to have an Asian fetish when black men generally do not? Because one Asian woman in six is married to a white man. But it is probably not even a case of a white fetish among Asian women: many of them live and work in places where it is much easier to meet white men than even Asian men, much less black men.
See also:
Gong Li is gorgeous.
i guess asian women have more cultural access to black men and white men than black women. That surprised me that bm and wm marry asian women at the same rate in proportion with their population. That’s funny because the only asian-black person that I know well is half Japanese and her father is Japanese and her mother is black. Seriously though, there has to be a reason that bw seem to not date out as much as other groups, really there must be a reason, it makes me wonder and why bm date non-blacks at such a higher rate…
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I think bm and aw date outside their race more not because they are more desirable but because they are weak. Asian women think having a white man makes them better and bm think having a white women makes them better. I’m sorry to say but it’s true. If Asian men and black women wanted to date out they would do it. But they love their people and want to make babies within in their race. Black guys try so hard to date out. They try harder than other races of men. They are always bothering or trying to get a # from another race of female (I see this every day). And they don’t quit bothering them untill they get there number. I’m 18 and on my campus it is definetly like this. It’s like they beg these women to give them a pity date. I don’t see Latin Asian or white men try this hard. They let women come to them.
And it may because alot of black and Asian women are white washed. That’s why black men in interacial marriages have the highest divorce rate. These guys don’t marry for love. They marry because they think their wife would bring them status. Asian women marry white guys for status too. That’s why I say they are weak. I’m not weak and would never put any race of anyone above my own. I love myself and my people first.
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I was reading another blog and discovered some interesting American history in regards to black male interracially marrying, and how it was at a time encouraged by Masters looking to breed more slaves. It simply was put out of practice and frowned upon because of property issues in slavery.
Link to some interesting history:
http://www.dinsdoc.com/woodson-1.htm
I think that there are just as many men- white and black alike- that are attracted and are into asian,white, and black women. But with history being what it is and America’s failure to evolve past slavery, I think black women sit at the bottom of the totem pole is because of those American traditions to uphold white supremacy no matter the cost. BM are allowed- to a certain degree- to date interracially because it still upholds white/European beauty values and supremacy. It’s because of those Asian stereotypes of the pure, docile female, that men are more likely to move in that direction as opposed to latin or black.
I think for black men it’s a sign of successful assimilation, not so much a focus on self hate. It’s a sign of their humanity: “You see, I’m not low down, uneducated, and violent. She respects me and I her without all the baggage, which proves I’m not an angry black man.” I do believe in some cases, it might even up the chemistry factor for these men. During the early days of slavery, BM’s children had a chance at freedom due to their white mothers, and I believe that BM see the same being true of their children born of a mother of a different race.
For white men, it usually requires alot more for them to admit to being attracted to black women. but with all the stigmas thrown at asian women, they can simply label them exotic and admit freely that they’ve taken a chance on something unknown.
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Historical ANTI-BW RACISM/HATE/COWARDICE in America is the REAL reason that MOST American men of ALL RACES choose to date and/or marry NON-BW over BW.
Hopefully, as MORE American men of ALL RACES get over their ANTI-BW RACISM/HATE/COWARDICE, they will choose to date and/or marry BW.
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Well I for one think Black men with Asian women make very beautiful couples, I’ve seen a few 🙂
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abagond, you like long hair don’t you? Do you think the long hair is the reason/
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if i can recall on one of his posts abagond even said short hair was unattractive and the one thing black women lacked was long hair…where is that post?
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Steve Sailer is pitiful, he is always concerned with silly things, like making sure black women are seen as undesirable by writing negative stereotypes about us.
sailer is a moron and so are most of his supporters. they can’t stop obsessing over michelle obama and how “unattractive,” she is. sometimes i wonder about sailer, he never has anything positiev to say about black people and black women, especially. I rememer he said in one post that I found somehow through a search engine, i didn’t know who the man was before, so he’s pretty much a nobody outside the internet, but he said bw were naturally not as good looking as other races. I found his comments pretty astounding, then people came on and started saying how ugly african women were and the funny thing is, i’m willing ot bet damn near none of them have ever even seen an african woman, let alone gone to africa. I see african women all the time, the woman who braids my hair is senegalese and I can say african woman are indeed VERY pretty women. Her skin is flawless and she has a good figure, so I just find it funny that most of the people on that site like to act like they’er the authority when it comes to bw and have most likely never interacted with black women. Sailer isn’t that attractive himself, so he really doesn’t need to be criticizing other people’s appearance.
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i’m just getting tired of peopel acting like they know everything there is to know about black women. I’m tired of people treating bw like they’re a different species, seperate from other females. I’m also sick of every negative statistic and negative things in general being linked to black women. Every negative statistic is magically linked to black women. I’m sick of that. Black women are more likely to be fat,black women are more likely to be single mothers,black women are more likely to have HIV. Does anyone have any damn positive thing to say about bw at all? We’re not THAT bad, come on.
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Ladies long hair is just an excuse. They want what they want.
Even when Black women were sporting long carefree curls in the 80’s Black men were jumping ship. It’s not about the hair it’s about dating other. It’s cool, exotic and given the bad reputation that Black women have with the help of the media and some women who do fit the sterotype the number of Black men dating “out” will continue.
I predict the “Black family” will be an endangered species within the next 100 years. Oh well as long as we have Africa.
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I really have no problem with bm dating whomever they choose, I date who I want. I just don’t like the disrespect geared at black feminininty or per some (lack thereof) I truly believe that is it unfair for people to make it out to seem that just because black men date out far moer than bw that bw are somehow ugly and undesirable. Most men date out more than women don’t they? Why is it we’re the only ones labeled as ugly and unwanted just because bm date out more than we do? That is the reason some people get upset, its te disrespect. The lack of regard for our femininity and the fact that people presume things about bw and judge bw when they dont’ even know bw. It makes me crazy!
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There’s a football player/model named Will Demps. He’s half-Korean. Oh, man. He’s mighty fine. He has beautiful eyes and a great smile.
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I agree with you Nita about the hair. Also, because black women want long hair so badly, and most don’t have it, I think that using the long hair excuse works against black women because for some reason people like to play on our insecurities, particularly men. Now because our natural hair shows growth in volume and not length, and that our hair doesn’t grow down our backs, I think it leaves black women open to ridicule because we are trying to attain something I particularly don’t think we were meant to have. We should embrace our uniqueness. I mean come on, on average, we have everything else other races don’t have, etc. full lips, round hips.
If your hair is long, and straight, no offense to you, I am just trying to make a point as to how we black women go to lengths to try to achieve this long hair. I believe that in my viewpoints, I am definitely in the minority on how I think and it is not representative of any race, gender or subgroup of people. I believe that no other race of women can wear short hair like black women, and that’s because we have the stronger features to do it. Therefore, it shouldn’t be looked at as a flaw.
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I don’t plan on reading any of Sailer’s comments or blogs, but from what I read about him and his viewpoints on here, it seems as if he is obsessed with black women.
BTW, the media does seem to have a sick fascination with the First Lady, don’t they? I don’t remember them obsessing over Laura Bush like this.
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WHOA! leigh that man’s a hottie!Phew 😉
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The reason behind the fascination with Michelle Obama is because she doesn’t represent the eurocentric standard of beauty, so they resort to playground tactics. I am sure if Obama’s wife was white, mixed or a light skinned woman who looked mixed with a petite frame, the media would be on their best behavior.
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@Shani:
Personally, I do believe many bw can carry off short hair. The long, graceful neck and the high cheekbones are shown off, and it looks quite striking. I wish I had the confidence to have short hair. The shortest haircut I’ve had was a typical Asian bowl haircut as a child, and I bawled. To this day, the shortest I’ll ever go is shoulder length.
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@MerryMay:
WHOA! leigh that man’s a hottie!Phew 😉
Yes, he makes me drool. 😀
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sharon leal and amerie are gorgeous!
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Steve Sailer is always obsessed with Blacks, especially Black women. He such an insecure b@@@ard with envy and jealousy in his racist heart. He always put down Black women every time, especially with Michelle Obama in the WH, he’s fumin’ at the mouth that people have the audacity and guts to find First Lady Obama beautiful. So, he promotes lies to the world so that his racial/gender hierarchy he believed in so fervously is intact. Sad indeed.
La Reyna
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Interesting La Reyna, thanks.
I took a visiting buddy of mine from Canada(Japanese origins)around London once and couldn’t quite understand the looks we got. Mostly whites, but then again south West London is pretty Lily. Is it that unusual for blacks and Asians to fraternise in general. They just didn’t ‘get’ the combo of a black woman and Asian guy just hanging out. Bet they wondered what they heck we had to talk about,let alone have anything in common.
Maybe whites are used to being the stars in every scenario, they can’t quite fathom being excluded from any goings on.
Oh man..
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One of my favorite actresses, Ming Na. If that isn’t stunning beauty I don’t know what it. Very underrated actress.
http://www.afterellen.com/people/2009/11/ming-na
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Yes, Leigh – he is might fine! I was wondering who that is. Now, I’ll have to look him up.
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Abagond, do a post about him.:)
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Just popping in to thank Leigh for that picture–that man is fine! 🙂
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Ladies, I don’t want to get you all hot and bothered, but damn…excuse my language.
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Yeah!! Not this is more like it!!!! Bring it on, bring it on!!! More mens LOL!
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Oh my…..instantly wikipedia’d him and I thought he was that guy in that Letoya Luckett video…too fine.
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where is the post on black abortion?
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abagond how do you feel about abortion?
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Leigh, you need to quit!lol Stop tormenting us.
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I have had a crush on will demps for time he is too fine.
@La Reyna
I’ve read those colorq posts I was laughing about how can someone get involved or have a problem with something that does not concern them in anyway. If someone Black or someone Asian had a problem I would get it i wouldn’t like it but i would get it but for someone who is neither race is tripping then that is sad
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Aiyo,
Sad, but true. Whites who aren’t involved in IR nor know POC do have a problem with POCs intermarrying with other POCs. It’s laughable but it underscores the entitlement mentality of white America, espcially white men.
La Reyna
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Shani Says:
I agree with you Nita about the hair. Also, because black women want long hair so badly, and most don’t have it, I think that using the long hair excuse works against black women because for some reason people like to play on our insecurities, particularly men. Now because our natural hair shows growth in volume and not length, and that our hair doesn’t grow down our backs, I think it leaves black women open to ridicule because we are trying to attain something I particularly don’t think we were meant to have. We should embrace our uniqueness. I mean come on, on average, we have everything else other races don’t have, etc. full lips, round hips.
If your hair is long, and straight, no offense to you, I am just trying to make a point as to how we black women go to lengths to try to achieve this long hair. I believe that in my viewpoints, I am definitely in the minority on how I think and it is not representative of any race, gender or subgroup of people. I believe that no other race of women can wear short hair like black women, and that’s because we have the stronger features to do it. Therefore, it shouldn’t be looked at as a flaw.
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Shani I agree no one pulls off a short do like Black women, however, I love long hair and I want long hair. There is nothing wrong with wanting that. And it’s not like Black women can’t grow long hair and I mean really long fairytale mythical long hair. Unfortunately a lot of people are ignorant and think Black women can’t grow long hair but this is a myth. I have long natural hair, I will never relax my hair again. Many of us long haired gals hide our hair in a bun most of the day because it protects our ends from the harsh climate. Many wear their long hair under wigs and weaves. Yes they do. Unfortunately, there are many Black women who do not know how to obtain naturally long hair but the information is out there.
Look through these YouTube accounts and find Black women with long hair. Several of these ladies are entrepreneurs, one even has a book about how to grow long healthy hair.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SongsOfJoy143
http://www.youtube.com/user/Patienceforlonghair
http://www.youtube.com/user/IRRISISTABLBTCH
http://www.youtube.com/user/LeobodyC5#p/c/69A3AAFAB00BD571/0/vQ2vSLr7Vvc
http://www.youtube.com/user/dsylla#p/a/u/0/hik0XvkdiPw
http://www.youtube.com/user/MsChicoro
—Chicoro’s book http://www.beautifybitbybitgi.com/index.html
—Chicoro’s Online Hair Album http://members.fotki.com/Chicoro123/about/
http://www.youtube.com/user/sylver2
http://www.youtube.com/user/RusticBeauty#p/a/u/2/859AZG4RcuU
http://www.youtube.com/user/Longhairdontcare2011#p/u/4/gny4K8_IEZw
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I like her hair.
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my hair is just above my shoulder blades, or right at them. Not too long,but not short, I do wear it in a bun most of the time with cornrows cause it gets tangeled. I’d say that’s the worst part of natural hair is that it gets tangled, its great other than that.
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http://www.ultrablackhair.com/
u guys heard o her? Her products really work, when i used to relax my hair she helped my hair grow substantially from just below my ears to the bottom of my neck and now that i’m natural my hair has grown even more.
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now when i flat iron my hair you can see the length.
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peanut Says:
Thu http://www.ultrablackhair.com/
u guys heard o her? Her products really work, when i used to relax my hair she helped my hair grow substantially from just below my ears to the bottom of my neck and now that i’m natural my hair has grown even more.
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I’ve heard of Cathy Howse, in fact I bought her book over a year ago and I started my regimen with her products. I still have her deep conditioner. She’s a great source for those who want to learn more about Black haircare.
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Nita said:
Shani I agree no one pulls off a short do like Black women, however, I love long hair and I want long hair. There is nothing wrong with wanting that. And it’s not like Black women can’t grow long hair and I mean really long fairytale mythical long hair. Unfortunately a lot of people are ignorant and think Black women can’t grow long hair but this is a myth. I have long natural hair, I will never relax my hair again. Many of us long haired gals hide our hair in a bun most of the day because it protects our ends from the harsh climate. Many wear their long hair under wigs and weaves. Yes they do. Unfortunately, there are many Black women who do not know how to obtain naturally long hair but the information is out there.
Oh Nita I can so relate to you about putting my hair in a bun. I have hair that goes down my back. However, I wore braids in the summer and decided to take a break in the winter. My hair grew longer and healthier. Right now I don’t do relaxers anymore and haven’t since the spring. I just wash it apply heat from the flat iron like once every two weeks. It stays for a long time without it being puffy. Since then my hair has been fine. No more putting in the bun to protect it from harsh climate. I did that when it was relaxed.
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As far as Will Demps, he has always been cute but I’ve heard women say he too light and looks girly. I never got that impression. He seems cool.
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i bet steve sailer fantasizes about black mandingo and asian women…
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I think that Asian women are usually reluctant to date black men because bestiality is frowned upon in Asian culture.
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@Peter Lerman:
What a blatantly ignorant and stupid comment.
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peter lerman probably practices beastiality himself and loves it i’m sure
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Also, Asians have a keener sense of smell than other races. So the horrible negro stench probably doesn’t help matters, either.
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*sniff*
Smell that? The only horrible stench is emanating from you, troll.
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This post has obviously struck a chord with this person, LOL! The ‘stench you are smelling must be your upper lip!
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Abagond, we need some Troll-B-Gone for this post! We can’t let it multiply!
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leigh204, most Asian women don’t find blk men attractive. In Asian cultures, blks are hated with a passion. And to the blk women going crazy over will demps, just remember that he mostly dates non- black women.
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Yep. I expected the trolls & troublemakers to come out of their holes to start mess on here once Aba was up and running again. Nothing better to do with their time.
Two wasted posts right there…
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Ok this post was dead until the race hater showed up. Inspite of my efforts to post positive comments and links. I’ll say it again. Black folks spend way to much time on negative, people and situations. Ignore the troll in fact contact Abagond to let him know he has someone to boot off Inspite of what trolls have to say interracial relationships are on the rise and by the next censor they will have trippled.
Now what do you guys think of the links I posted?
Here’s someone with natural afro textured hair:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Afrohairsecrets#p/u/14/XSkjAw7mfF0
And yes, even with a relaxer we can grow very long hair:
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OK I just realized I hyjacked this post with hair videos. Abagond can you do a hair post so that I can repost these videos? It’s a great topic.
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In regard to trolls: Most trolls use bad language, call people names or go way off topic. That kind of stuff is easy to disallow through a comment policy with objective standards. But if someone wants to make a completely ignorant statement that is on-topic, I do not see how I can stop that without bringing my own subjective judgement to bear – which in turn would lead to unfairness and a narrowing of ideas.
The bestiality comment is offensive. But if it is what he truly believes, then it is better that we know it and get it out into the open than to have it buried under three layers of niceness. I mean, after all, why is it that two men can kiss in a Hollywood film but Will Smith, currently at the top of the A list, cannot kiss a white woman? What in the world does that say?
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Nita said:
“OK I just realized I hyjacked this post with hair videos. Abagond can you do a hair post so that I can repost these videos? It’s a great topic.”
What would the name of the post be?
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besteality? so much is ignorance and hatred. ahoobetty.
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While there may not be a lot of BM/AW pairings in mainstream America, I’ve seen a lot of the reverse in Jamaica. I can’t give you any numerical data or Government statistics, though; this is all based off of my own 4-eyed observations.
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How can people come to the blog with their sense of ignorance and entitlement such as Pete and Hsiu?
My postings proved right. These guys are dictating whom people date/mate/marry and cannot get any woman to date their sorry butts. They have an enormous racial envy as well as nonblack entitlement mentality.
As for the Asian/Black relationships, they’re increasing slowly but surely. I’ve seen Asian women/Black men pairings and their children in my conservative midwestern Southern Ohio city. They exist.
La Reyna
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When a human has sex with a lower primate it’s bestiality. Am I the only one who sees this?
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Give it a rest Lerman. nobody’s listenin. 😦
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“No we see whites getting arrested for bestiality all the time, nothing new.
You people are either attacking children or going after animals.”
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535400,00.html
Actually, it’s you sex-crazed Negroes that more likely to engage in such deviant behavior. The rate of sex crimes among blacks is much higher than the rate among whites. Just like EVERY other crime. Face it- blacks are complete ANIMALS.
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When a human has sex with a lower primate it’s bestiality. Am I the only one who sees this?
No, you are not the only one who sees this. Your mother saw this when she gave birth to you. Maybe this explains your obsession with beastiality and ‘sex-crazed Negroes’.
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Hsuanchi:
What offensive topics have I posted?
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“It is you and the other blacks on this site that are obsessed with white people not vice versa.”
I can’t speak for the others, but I can assure you that I am not ‘obsessed’ with white people. I am aware however as to their machinations and behaviours. Do I hate them? No. I dislike the mode of thoughts and behaviours many exhibit and the subsequent negative effects that entails. At this point I would like to make a confession as to what I am currently ‘obsessed’ with. I confess I am a software and computer junkie! I confess I am obsessed with purses. I confess I am obsessed with clothes, foot ware etc. On a scale of one to ten, obsessions with white people does not even rate. Many of these post are on the subjects of race, so I will post my comments. If this was a blog of the above obsessions I actually have, then I would be ‘obsessively’ posting on them. However this is not a post on computers and software, chocolate or purses, understand? Now back to the regular program.
In my area, I am beginning to see more black men with Asian women. I have also met some black and Chinese Jamaican people. It seems to be more regular there from what they have told me. I have met many Jamaicans who look black, with the last name of Chin or Wong as well as those who are obviously ‘mixed’.
What offensive topics have I posted?
Anything that doesn’t kowtow to what is perceived as the status quo in regards to commentary on race relations or the lack of such. In other words you are not spouting a kumbaya philosophy, but a realistic one.
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@Hsuanchi:
leigh204, most Asian women don’t find blk men attractive. In Asian cultures, blks are hated with a passion. And to the blk women going crazy over will demps, just remember that he mostly dates non- black women.
How do you know this? Are you most AW? Generally, Asian cultures particularly East Asian are very conservative. People prefer to be with people they identify with. The Western media has permeated through various parts of Asia, and the Asian people there only see what is broadcasted to them so they develop this misconstrued notion of what black people are supposed to be like. Also, you mentioned black people are hated with a passion. Other Asians feel the same way towards each other. For example, the Koreans and the Japanese have had a long-standing hatred towards one another for years.
And another thing, what if Will Demps mostly dates non-black women? It means he’s not exclusive. In the end, it’s his choice and he’ll have to live with it. Not you.
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“This topic is about Black men Asian women relationships and yet you show up talking about sex and bestiality.”
What else do you call it when a human being has sex with a subhuman primate? It’s bestiality, plain and simple.
And stop trying to change the subject. Everyone knows the truth about crime in this country- especially sex crimes. Rape is the national pastime of the negroid race (with stealing and littering rounding out the top three), and no women are safe around these animals.
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You seem to be obsessed with beastiality and ‘sex crazed negroes’, why is this? Afterall this isn’t a blog for fetishes. People are not really interested in your fantasies, for that is all they are.
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@ Herneith…not only is he obsessed with those things. he cannot even stay with the original post’s theme. pitiful 😦
He veered off the subject right from the beginning.
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“He veered off the subject right from the beginning.”
No I didn’t. This article is about inter-species romance, which is exactly what I’ve been talking about.
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Wrong again Lerman.
Last comment i will be making to you btw.
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I have an image of him sitting at his computer, masturbating furiously while he has these fantasies and types these posts. He doth protests to much LOL.
Steve Sailer, an intellectual skinhead, says that Asian women are the most desirable women and black men are the most desirable men
What’s with some of these white men and their sexual fascination with black men? They’re getting the white women and now they are moving on to Asian women, the preserve of the white men, LOL! I think black men/asian women are the up and coming couplings. The more they are exposed to black people, the more they will see them as viable partners in the dating marriage market. I already have noticed this where I live.
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I love how racist trolls have such an overinflated opinion on themselves!
Some absolutely hate black people yet they go on sites that have a majority of black people!
Then you have people like “no slapz” who uses straw man arguments and thinks that he is right!
Trolls! They have nothing better to do with their time!
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steve sailer loves black men
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@peanut:
You may be on to something! These men that refer to black men in animalistic terms may be attracted to them but are ashamed to say so!
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Thank you, abagond! You added the oh-so-fine Will Demps to your list. He’s so yummy! *sigh*
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Oh, and there’s also Apl. de. ap (hip hop musician/record producer) of the Black Eyed Peas. He’s part Filipino, too.
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“You may be on to something! These men that refer to black men in animalistic terms may be attracted to them but are ashamed to say so!”
do you know how many comments I’ve seen about white males who seem obsessed with black males genitalia? its usually the most racist ones too. Read Eldridge Cleaver and go to the part about how white men would pay bm to sleep with their white wives (cuckhold) its so strange to me…its like they’re either gay or they have an inferiority complex/obsession. Sometimes i think some of these racist white males who lash out at black females saying bw are ugly and what not are jealous because they’re gay and want black men for themselves or something…i don’t know
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and i’m not talking about the white males who don’t go around obsessed with black men, i’m talking only about the ones that are like steve sailer and that other commenter on here
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Having sex with a black man would be the most unpleasant experience I could ever imagine. DISGUSTING.
I did have sex with a black woman once, however. But I almost got sick from the stench. What a mistake! Never again will I lay with the beast of the field.
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see what i mean…
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@peanut:
I do see what you mean.
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@Peter Lerman:
Let me repeat myself, we don’t want to read about your fantasies. Maybe your are teed off as you think Asian women are the white man’s. Coming on here with references to beastiality and racist rants does your cause no good. Give it a rest already! If you want to talk about beastiality, talk to your mother as she gave birth to you. She would know all about it! As for having ‘sex’ with a black man that is probably your most cherished fantasy as you harp on it constantly. We do not want to read about it!
@leigh:
I believe Apl. de. ap’s mother is Fillipino. There are quite a few Black/Fillipino, Chinese/Black of the couplings I have seen here.
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This man Peter is way too obesessed with Black male genetalia and Black women’s sexuality. It’s really sick and disgusting. Please ban him Abagond.
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You know when Apl.de.ap came out and mention his Filipino heritage, I was surprised to know he had a Filipino mother. However, looking at him again, you can tell from his appearance. I think he is so adorable to me.
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@Herneith:
I believe Apl. de. ap’s mother is Fillipino. There are quite a few Black/Fillipino, Chinese/Black of the couplings I have seen here.
You mentioned you’re from Toronto, correct? I’m not surprised as there are more black/asian couples there than in my hometown of…dun dun dun…Winnipeg! We’re not as progressive as you guys back east, but we’re getting better. 😛
@dani:
dani
You know when Apl.de.ap came out and mention his Filipino heritage, I was surprised to know he had a Filipino mother. However, looking at him again, you can tell from his appearance. I think he is so adorable to me.
Ooh, me, too! I have what you call Filipino radar. More often than not, I can tell who is Filipino or part-Filipino and Apl fit the bill. Btw, I met Apl a few years ago. He was very soft spoken and shy. Nice, too. 🙂
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@leigh:
Move to Toronto post haste! I have heard(not that means anything) that the folks out West are not conducive to ‘coloured ‘ people. I could be misinformed! Also it’s as cold as heck! At least colder than it is here.
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Pardon the typos, I have been waxing floors all day!
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Peter Lehman is a prime example of what I called is an entitlement/superiority complex mentality. He has a huge problem with anyone dating/marrying people of African descent. He can’t stand to see White and Asian women marrying and having children with Black men. It’s happening everyday, get use to it, Peter!
La Reyna
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Here’s an example of racial hypocrisy in IRs, taken from a quote via color q world:
“A New Yorker shares his real-life observations of this hypocrisy in a 2004 yahoogroups message:
In NYC, I have seen white male-Asian woman couples make fun of Black male-Asian woman couples. I have heard the white couple say stuff like, “Where did that asian woman get that black guy? The city jail?” and ‘What’s that Asian girl doing with that ni****r? I guess she doesn’t know any better.’
“I’m on the other side of the country in Seattle, where 1 out of 7 babies born is of mixed race, but yet acquaintances who have come from other states such as CA or even ID tell me that Seattle, is in some ways, more racist than their home states. The reason they come to this conclusion is that many people who date interracially in Seattle has racist dating preferences. In fact, the individual who has no racial preferences in a romantic partner is the exception, not the norm. A friend met a white guy in a bar who said, “I can date a woman of any race, except a black woman.'”
SAY WHAT!
And finally:
“I’m Native American and a woman of independence. I would like to comment on your article White Reactions to Interracial Unions Between People of Color. Since I found out how to annoy the heck out white people especially white men about this subject, I have taken (savage) delight and enjoyed every single second of watching them squirm. Not that I’m mean and nasty about it; I saw their weakness and I tromped on it. After I ripped the thin veil away from them I could see where they really stood on racial issues, I felt like I wasn’t powerless over situations with them anymore.
I don’t do this anymore much because I don’t run into these types of white men. The ones I know are pretty cool and don’t buy into that white man’s privilege crap. Thanks for your article, it makes people think.
Happy Lil’ Indian lady
2002”
What are your thoughts?
La Reyna
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In NYC, I have seen white male-Asian woman couples make fun of Black male-Asian woman couples. I have heard the white couple say stuff like, “Where did that asian woman get that black guy? The city jail?” and ‘What’s that Asian girl doing with that ni****r? I guess she doesn’t know any better.’
“I can date a woman of any race, except a black woman.’”
SAY WHAT!
Peanut’s Response:
Nothing I haven’t heard before, that’s those people’s hang-ups.
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Peter Lehman is a prime example of what I called is an entitlement/superiority complex mentality.
No, he is a pervert and a weirdo. It is because he has no complex at all, that he resorts to these rants. This reminds me of an obscene phone call, before the arrival of call display. Now the weirdos are going online to slake their perversions!
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“This reminds me of an obscene phone call, before the arrival of call display. Now the weirdos are going online to slake their perversions!”
You can always spoof a caller id. I use SpoofCard, myself.
http://www.spoofcard.com/
It’s a great way to continually prank local cable-access shows. Especially ones hosted by uppity dreadlocked bloggers.
But getting back to the topic, Asian women don’t date black men because black people stink. It’s really not complicated.
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LaReyna says,
Peter Lehman is a prime example of what I called is an entitlement/superiority complex mentality.
Herneith says,
No, he is a pervert and a weirdo. It is because he has no complex at all, that he resorts to these rants. This reminds me of an obscene phone call, before the arrival of call display. Now the weirdos are going online to slake their perversions!
laromana says,
NO ONE dates RACIST, PERVERT, WEIRDOS with entitlement/superiority complexes (like you PH) because THEY STINK. It’s THAT SIMPLE.
Get over your IGNORANT TROLLISH self already.
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Lerman is a racist fool, and an obvious troll. But he’s probably right.
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Right about what Ahoo? About blacks being sub human? :-O because basically that is all he has been saying in each and every racist hating comment.
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http://www.blackbottom.com/watch.php?v=GY3giUcMRzj
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@ peanut.
i subscribe to this youtuber. i really like her videos
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@Peanut
I love Alfia’s youtube Channel Dear Life, she is such a sweet person
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its snowing in abagondland
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I think you have completely mischaracterized Steve Sailor’s views. He has never said that black men were the most desirable males or that Asian women were the most desirable females. He has noted that black men have a tendency to have more masculine physical traits ( higher average testosterone levels, lower body fat levels, higher bone density levels, etc) compared to other races of men. He also says that black men are inclined to be more feminine mentally (more clued in to social dynamics, greater ability to multi-task, overly concerned with issues of style, more emotional, etc.) than other men. He has noted that Asian women have a tendency to have more of those physical characteristics we associate with femininity (long hair, small stature, social reticence, higher levels of body fat, etc). Being a racialist, he would notice these things. I don’t think noticing racial differences makes one an intellectual skinhead.
Sailer addresses the issue of the low percentage of black/Asian marriages in “Is Love Colorblind”:
“Nor is it surprising that white – Asian marriages outnumber black – white marriages: the social distance between whites and Asians is now far smaller than the distance between blacks and whites.”
He says social distance, but I interpret his comment to mean intellectual distance. This IQ distance is not nullified by the seemingly complimentary physical characteristics of black men and Asian women.
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The truth probably falls somewhere in the middle.
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RR:
Do you honestly think Sailer is not a racist? Or are you just playing devil’s advocate?
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Would a skinhead concern himself with the achievements of Jackie Robinson, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Zora Neal Hurston or Skip Gates, all of whom he has written flatteringly on.
Yes. Many racists admire individuals from a group they are racist against. They look upon them as anomalies.
Instead of focusing on how offended you are by his remarks, focus on the truthfulness of what he writes.
Instead of focusing on how offended someone else is, focus on your own racism.
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Abagond,
I happen to believe that Steve Sailer is not a racist, but who am I to divine what is in another man’s heart. I’m not psychic. Unless one is psychic, how does one determine whether another is racist? Correct me if I am wrong, but from what I understand, racism is a mental state. If one doesn’t come right out and tell you that he is racist, how do you know? Even if he tells you he is racist, the statement may not be conclusive evidence of racism because the person in question could be lying. The same would be true of a person who says he is not racist. The upshot: Mental states are unknowable.
From my perspective, Steve Sailer’s alleged racism is irrelevant to the discussion of race. Steve Sailer’s remarks are plausible. His assertions are either correct, or incorrect. Truth will out, hopefully. If Sailer has made a statement that you believe to be incorrect, let’s talk about it. If you believe Sailer to be racist (for the purposes of this discussion, let’s define racism as an irrational hatred of another race. If you have a better definition, I would like to read it), could you cite an article or remark that would substantiate your claim. We can dissect it here. I found nothing in the “Is Love Colorblind” article that would indicate Sailer is a racist. It is a disturbing and offensive piece but I detected no venom. Perhaps I missed something. Please, enlighten me.
Herneith,
If racists frequently admire individuals of the target hated race, then how racist could the racists be? If they view these admired persons as anomalies, shouldn’t we ask ourselves if their perceptions are correct? Is racism absolute? Are there degrees of racism? Should we be concerned about the granularity of racist sentiment? What is your definition of racism? I will focus on my own racism if you can define it for me.
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1. You can admire someone from another race and still be racist against that race. You can even be that race yourself and still be racist against it.
2. Racism is the belief that one race is naturally better than another. It may or may not feature hatred. More here:
If your words or actions assume such a belief, then you are racist. It does not always require mind-reading. If someone calls me a racist name, for example, he is racist.
Sailer’s racism came into question because you wanted proof that Sailer is an intellectual skinhead. But, I agree, being a racist does not mean everything he says is necessarily wrong. That would amount to an ad hominem argument.
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Abagond,
You wrote:
“Racism is the belief that one race is naturally better than another.”
Is your definition absolute? By your line of reasoning, if one believes that a particular group is better at a particular thing than another group, then one is a racist. This seems to me to be a particularly naive view. Every day we see particular groups excelling at various endeavors over other groups. This is a reality. Are we to ignore reality? I personally believe that people of West African descent naturally make the best sprinters in the world. This is not to say other groups don’t have fast sprinters, but that generally speaking, West Africans are the fastest. The objective evidence does point to this conclusion. Am I a racist for acknowledging this reality or am I a racist for stating it publically?
If your definition is not absolute, I defy you to cite a single instance where Steve Sailer has asserted that one group is superior in all things compared to other races.
If someone calls me a racist name, for example, he is racist.
So, by your reasoning, if a black person calls another black person a n*gger in jest, then the caller is a racist. I don’t get that. Certainly some words can and have been used by racists to demean and humiliate, but the mere mention of a pejorative word isn’t by itself racist. It might be vulgar and ignorant, but is it racist without context?
If your words or actions assume such a belief, then you are racist. It does not always require mind-reading.
But I gather mind reading helps 🙂 In your “racist” essay, you wrote:
When I say someone is racist I am doubting their thinking
Are you questioning their state of mind or the logic they use to reach a particular conclusion? If you are questioning their state of mind, it is a fruitless endeavor, as I stated previously. If you are questioning their logic, that is reasonable. But what if the logic of the alleged racist is sound? What if it can be objectively proven that one group is better than another group at a particular thing, (like sprinting)?
Again, I would like you to cite something Steve Sailer has written that is racist by your definition. Please be specific.
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Is your definition absolute? By your line of reasoning, if one believes that a particular group is better at a particular thing than another group, then one is a racist.
If you believe that “better” is a natural characteristic of a biological subspecies of humanity, then yes, by definition you are racist.
Racism has no necessary connection to “like” or “dislike”.
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If racists frequently admire individuals of the target hated race, then how racist could the racists be?
Extremely racist. For example, Ever hear someone say; “You are different from other,_ insert racialized group”. There are micro assaults leveled at blacks everyday not necessarily macro ones such as blatantly racist name calling or physical assaults.
If they view these admired persons as anomalies, shouldn’t we ask ourselves if their perceptions are correct?
No we shouldn’t. We should call them what they are, racists. Just because they admire certain members of a group they may dislike or look down on in general, doesn’t make them less racist, they are still racist. In fact they may be worse than the average one.
Is racism absolute?
Is anything absolute? Racism in its’ current form is insidious, if it was absolute, it would be much more discernible.
Are there degrees of racism?
On the surface yes, in practice, no, it levels out in the long run.
Should we be concerned about the granularity of racist sentiment?
Yes, but one has to choose their battles.
What is your definition of racism?
My definition of racism is not reading racists like Steve Sailor for one, and finding ‘truths’ in some of what he posits. With that being said, an idiot can be right at times. You can’t’ create silk from a sow’s ear regardless of the verbiage used. Don’t ask me to provide a quote or article in order to ‘dissect’ what this man has to say as I have read enough of his writings over the years. Besides which, I do-not wish to give his views an airing. Had I wished to comment on his views in depth, I would go to web sites discussing his views . As for my further definition of race, it does not have to include hatred, as it can be a ‘positive’ racism as with the example of the ‘Model Minority’ which is a positive stereotype, or with the negative stereotype that all blacks are inherently criminal. Racism is racism, no need to ‘dissect it as if it as in a petri dish. The effect in the long run is the same. Let me ask you a question, this post is about black men and asian woman. Why try to veer away from it with with discussions on Steve Sailor’s views? Referring to his article ‘Is Love Colorblind’ is one thing, inviting people to discuss his other articles which have nothing to do with the topic is another. I believe the author of this blog has already written a post on Steve Sailor.
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I did quote Sailer in the post so he is not completely off topic, but Sailer-is-racist is better discussed here:
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No, it is not legitimate. I already wrote a post on Sailer. If you want to discuss his other works, discuss them there. Sailer is on topic here only in regard to what he said in “Is Love Colorblind?”
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What if one were to observe that white men, on average, were taller than Asian men? Would that be racist?
Well, yes. Said observation presumes that there are clearly defined sub-species one can label “white” and “Asian” for example. Asia, properly, is a geographic unit, not a subspecies. “White”… Hell, if you can give me a good, solid, biological and scientific definition of “white”, I’d like to hear it.
But if all you mean to say is “the group over here is taller on average than this other group”, that is not necessarily racist. Presuming that there’s a natural subdivision of humanity called “Asian” when, in fact, you are the one creating said subdivision, that’s the problem.
“Racial groups” simply don’t exist in biological terms. Human genetics is far too fractal for that. It’s not that “all groups are equal”. it’s actually the opposite: humanity is so diverse that any meaningful “racial group” you wish to draw will contain as much diversity within itself as between itself and any other racial group.
People who don’t understand human genetics think scientists are saying that humans are all alike when we say “race doesn’t exist in biological terms”. In fact, we are saying that human genetics is too chaotic and diverse to allow for the construction of stable and discrete subspecies.
The problem is that we’re too different to be classified in a handful of races.
Would one be racist for even asking whether the races are equal in all things?
It’s racist because it presumes the existence of stable, discrete human subspecies when we know for a fact that these do not exist. So it’s not even the comparison that’s the big problem: as we say in Portuguese, “The hole is farther down”.
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Thaddeus,
You wrote:
“Hell, if you can give me a good, solid, biological and scientific definition of “white”, I’d like to hear it.”
Sure, I’ll give you a solid, biological and scientific definition of “white” as soon as you give me a solid, biological and scientific defintion of “tall”. Or how about a solid definition of “young”. “Tall” or “young” can’t be defined precisely because both are relative measures, just like race. As Sailer states in “Race is relative”:
http://vdare.com/Sailer/presentation.htm
Note: That was my last Sailer reference.
Just because race is a nebulous concept does not mean it is erroneous or unuseful.
Let me rephrase my first question to you:
What if one were to observe that pale-skinned men with round eyes from Europe were, on average, taller than yellow skinned men with slanted eyes from Asia?
Does this construction make you feel more at ease? Has the added verbiage clarified matters? Or have I more or less made the same statement?
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Sure, I’ll give you a solid, biological and scientific definition of “white” as soon as you give me a solid, biological and scientific defintion of “tall”.
That’s pretty easy, actually. You sure you want to go there? Height is a unidimensional characteristic and it’s damned easy to figure out some reasonably objective formula for it. Here’s how we do it….
Randomly sample a significant number of humans and plot average and mean height. Define as “tall” anyone who is, say, 20% beyond the average and mean. Now sure, there’s room for epistemological slippage on this (should it be 20% or only 10%? Perhaps 30%), but it can be discussed in an open and clear way so that we can come to some reasonable consensus.
“White”, however, is not a unidimensional charcateristic but a mare’s nest of often conflicting characteristics which have hsitorically taken in skin color, hair color, eye color, hair type, skull formation, blood type, etc., etc., etc. The problem is that all these “essential” biological traits of “whiteness” do not match up in neat packages. People who have said skin color often have the “wrong” hair type or blood type or what have you.
So to even try to define “white”, you need to come to consensus on what are the key genetic markers. And you know what, RR? From about 1850 on down to today, some of the world’s best scientific minds have tried to do exactly that and have come up a cropper. “Whiteness” (or “blackness”) is like Oakland: there is no “there” there, man.
“Tall” and “young” are indeed relative, but they can be relatively easily defined. This is not the case with “white”: it’s not only relative, there isn’t even any agreement as to what composes it – unlike “tall” andn”young”.
What if one were to observe that pale-skinned men with round eyes from Europe were, on average, taller than yellow skinned men with slanted eyes from Asia? Does this construction make you feel more at ease? Has the added verbiage clarified matters? Or have I more or less made the same statement?
Well, you’ve taken a teensy, tiny step towards clarity, but you’re still being far too colloquial and general for any really meaningful scientific comparison.
Find me one “yellow skinned man” to begin with. I’ve never seen one, outside of 1940s American comic books. By “white skinned”, I presume you really mean white skin, here, right? So we’re talking, what, some Irish, maybe some Scandanavians…? Ah, but the Lapps and some other Scandanavian groups don’t have really round eyes, do they? So obviously all “white” people aren’t going to be useful for your comparison.
Define your terms, man. You can’t be talking about Italians: most of them don’t have white skin but light brown skin.
Just to give you an idea, RR, forensic anthropologists don’t recognize “white” as a color: they have a set of some 80 skin tones labeled by letter and number. When someone asks what “color” a person is, they pull out these little bars with color chips, marked accordingly, and get to work. Even a simplified skin tone system like Fitzgerald’s, which only uses six categories, has “white” people across four of those six colors.
And that’s just skin color. You want to add in eye form, too. Oh, boy… That’s another boatload of huge variance.
So define your variables, man, and let’s get to it.
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Thaddeus,
You are proving my point for me. Through genetic data, we can determine how related two or more groups of people are relative to a genetic baseline. This is done increasingly by people investigating their ancestries (like Skip Gates). “Tall” like “race” is relative and measurable. Forensic scientists are able to determine with a high degree of probability the “race” of an assailant or deceased victim through DNA evidence. Note they do not give descriptions in geographic or physical terms. They use words like, “black”, Asian, American Indian, Indian, white, etc.
You wrote:
“Find me one “yellow skinned man” to begin with. I’ve never seen one, outside of 1940s American comic books.”
You are creating a straw man here. You are questioning shades of coloring hoping to get a definition you can attack. In other words, how yellow is yellow? How brown is brown? How black is black? How white is white? These questions are utterly beside the point. The point is that you can group enough people with similar physical and genetic characteristics as for them to constitute a race.
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RR, when you don’t understand what I’m saying, it’s dangerous to assume that your argument is being proved. Let me state things much more simply for you.
The problem isn’t whether or not we can construct a baseline: the problem is “which characteristics make up race”? That question has to be answered before we get to constructing a baseline and you seem oddly unable to answer it.
“Tall” is only comparable along a baseline because it’s a simple, unidimensional trait. Race most certainly isn’t. Without that we have the characteristics that compose race cleanly laid out before us, there can be no baseline.
As for your supposed strawman, I’m constructing nothing of the sort. I am asking you to define your variables in an objective – if relative – sense. My question isn’t “how yellow is yellow”, my question to you is “What is yellow”?
Now, according to you, all this is obvious and easily definable, so I’m rather suprised that you haven’t just jumped in and given a definition so we can talk turkey. Insetad, you’re picking nits, beating about the bush and in general looking like a bright freshman who hasn’t done the reading and who’s trying to cover his ass on Monday morning’s pop quizz.
Definitions, Mr. RR! Let’s have some. Chop, chop!
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Thaddeus,
You ARE indeed constructing a straw man. You are more concerned with defining what constitutes a race rather than whether “race” can be measured in a relative manner, which was my initial assertion. Race is relative, like tallness.
What is yellow? I don’t know. I know that the coloring of Asians (Orientals in this case) is generally different than that of Caucasians or black Africans. The exact definition of yellow is irrelevant. The important fact is that the coloring is different, on average than that of other racial groupings.
Of course race is more than skin deep. One can’t absolutely determine a persons race simply by observing his color, but color is meaningful wrt race.
You wrote:
“Now, according to you, all this is obvious and easily definable”
I never said this. You are jumping from one logical fallacy to another. What I said was that race, like tallness, is relative and measurable. This is my assertion. Disprove it if you can.
““Tall” is only comparable along a baseline because it’s a simple, unidimensional trait.”
You still have not defined it in biological or scientific terms. Define “tall” outside of a relative measure and perhaps you have a convincing argument. “tallness” is clearly also genetically influenced. Maybe “tall” is more complicated than you think.
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no slappz? 😀
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hey i know it’s not slappz but the dogged determination of this one reminds me of slappz. never gonna stop. haha
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@AO:
Maybe it’s his long lost sibling. LOL!
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Neither Thaddeus nor RR are sock puppets of No Slappz.
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Mr. RR, let me refresh your memory as how science is conducted.
First, we construct qualitative definitions, then we collect quantitative data. We analyze said data and only then do we construct theories and hypotheses which explain said data. Finally, we try to conduct experiments which falsify these hypotheses.
If you cannot give us a reasonable qualitative definition of that which you wish to collect data on, then you’re in no shape to analyze data of any sort, let alone create and falsify hypotheses.
This is simple stuff you should have learned in a freshman philosophy of science class. Perhaps, however, you never took a philosophy of science class. Perhaps, to you, science consists of simply throwing big words around in support of this or that popular idea. I assure you, however, that that sort of politically correct nonsense is not considered to be “science” by anyone in the field.
Now, you started this discussion off by breezily claiming that your theories about human difference were easily falsifiable. And yet, as you’ve so succinctly demonstrated, you cannot even define the variables upon which your theory depends.
Furthermore, you’ve shown a startling lack of ignorance about human biodiversity which would be remedied if you had bothered to look into the introductory chapters of any first year human biology text. Your claim that “I know that the coloring of Asians is generally different than that of Caucasians or black Africans” sets a new standard for simple bloody ignorance. To begin with, it shows a basic confusion of racial, geographic and ethnic categories, using these as if they were all synonymous (which they aren’t).
Secondly, you ignore the simple fact – which any forensic anthropologist could acquaint you with – that the largest range of human colors are SHARED between the continents of Africa, Asia and Europe. While Europe may have a higher instance of lighter scales (Fitzgerald’s I) and Africa a higher concentration of darker tones (Fitzgerald’s VI), all three continents have very large populations of people with mid-range tones (Fitzgerald’s II to V). “Asians” are not “yellow”, and they never have been: they range in color from white to black. Just because you can’t conceive of an Asia beyond your comicbook imaginings of Japanese and Chinese, Mr. RR, does not mean that Asia does not exist.
I never said this. You are jumping from one logical fallacy to another. What I said was that race, like tallness, is relative and measurable. This is my assertion. Disprove it if you can.
Oh, dear… Sigh. Son, if you don’t keep up with the reading, we’re going to have to revoke that football scholarship.
For the third time now (and let’s hope it takes): race is not a singular trait, like tallness, but a condition made up of SERIES of traits.
You seem to be hung up on the word “relative”, but relativism isn’t what’s begin discussed. The basic characteristics which make up your variables are what are being questioned. Whether these characteristics are relative or not is absolutely of no nevermind unless you can at least tell us what characteristics you plan to measure. “Height” is such a characteristic, relative or not. What characteristics are you proposing we measure in “race”, Mr. RR?
Furthermore, we do not prove negatives in science, Mr. RR. You are effectively asking that we prove that race DOESN’T exist. That’s not how science works. Your theory is that race exists. You are thus bound to offer up positive proof of said theory. If you cannot tell us even what characteristics your object of study is composed of, then we cannot very well measure them, can we?
Sophism is not science, Mr. RR. “Prove I’m wrong” is what a child says when he makes an unprovable claim, not what one would expect a budding young scholar to say.
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(Sorry for the affected professorial tone, but sophmoric argumentation re: “racial science” just brings out the educator in me. ;))
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lol I didn’t notice this was a black site it was just in google well for racial disrespect I’m sorry but I speak truths
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Hi Matthew
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Wow, 34,000 black men in America married to Asian women? Looks like that’s still one too many for many Asians out there. For a race (most notably E. Asians) that prizes pale skin above all else, one can just imagine how their ancestors must be flipping in there graves. LOL
Don’t the Chinese have some kind of saying, “to be white is to cancel a thousand flaws”. I’m told they do not mean white as in white Caucasians but paleness.
Yah man, that’s a step down to be dark and dumb.
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I’ve rarely seen Black men/Asian women couples!
Then again My cousin did date a chinese chick a long time ago and my uncle had a fling with filipina!
Me though I’m not too bothered about race when it comes to women, however I wouldn’t mind making a blasian baby with leigh! 😉
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LOL! Oh, you. 🙂
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Check out this video:
It’s kinda nice that some east asian women are showing us black men some love (not that I wouldn’t except love from any other race of women!)
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You guys should check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lilylee55
This chick’s videos are all about what her and her black boyfriend!
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“But maybe it is simpler than all that: As it turns out white men, who so famously have an Asian fetish, marry Asian women at about the same rate as black men: about one married man in a hundred.”
^ Not true at all! Where did you get this info from?
White men marry Asian women way more than black men do.
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Because there are way more white men. I am talking about the percentage of married men, not total numbers.
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Abagond,
You are overlooking the fact that white men marry at much greater rates than black men. Given this fact, white men marry Asian women at a significantly higher rate than do black men because white men are more likely to marry than black men are. No matter how you slice it, white men marry Asian women at greater rates than do black men.
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About the hair, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of bw don’t take care of their hair properly. My hair is shoulder length and it’s short compared to the other member of my family. Some have have thin hair, wavy/curly or coarse, but they all grow really fast. My hair grows in length and I’m black. Black women can have many different features. Black men can find the same qualities in bw they find in others. But I think that some people just are more attracted to someone that’s the opposite of them. Alot of members of my family outside their “race” and I’ve never found bm attractive physically. All the problem that bw complain with bm, it’s basically the same thing with other races. Relationship problems don’t magically go away like that.When I look at a bm, I look at as a brother, literally. It would feel like incest to me to be with another bm.I’m attracted to a narrow face, meduim/small pointy nose, long curly/wavy hair, and copper/olive skin. Which is what I basically look like.
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When I look at a bm, I look at as a brother, literally.
That sound like the same thing that many Asian women say as to why they won’t date the fellow Asian men! You sound like you have issues!
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^^^^^^
I have never heard white people say that they won’t date other whites because they remind them of a brother/sister, funny that.
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Robin,
Your last post was confusing. You state that:
“I’m attracted to a narrow face, meduim/small pointy nose, long curly/wavy hair, and copper/olive skin. Which is what I basically look like.”
but then say:
“When I look at a bm, I look at as a brother, literally. It would feel like incest to me to be with another bm.”
Given that most black Americans are not copper/olive complected and don’t have long curly/wavy hair, it seems to me that your attraction to people such as yourself is more incestuous than any attraction you would have for blacks with lower percentages of racial admixture.
“About the hair, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of bw don’t take care of their hair properly.”
I’ve heard this bandied about elsewhere. I don’t buy it. You can grow your hair long because, judging from your description of yourself, you aren’t very black, racially speaking. Probably the healthiest thing a black woman can do is not treat her hair so that it appears long and wavy.
Herneith,
I read one study that asserted that people are more attracted to others like themselves than to people with differing characteristics.
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Whatever, I don’t care what you think. I’m black and my family’s black. Like I said before, many bw put alot of heat in their hair and many of the hairstyles they tend to wear breaks off hair. I can never wear mircobraids. Herneith, you’re stuck on just a basic set of features for a WHOLE race. Maybe my family isn’t mixed, maybe they’re from a different section of Africa. I like what I like. I don’t have justify it to anyone. Also, I said that my family has many different features. Some have thin hair and some coarse. I have no idea what good hair is suppose to mean. Does it mean straight hair beacuse i find curly/wavy hair alot prettier. I love dark red/brown color hair. Also the thicker hair, the better. I think as long the person disrespected the other group, then it should anybody else’s problem
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Edit: I think as long the person as isn’t disrespecting the other group, then it should anybody else’s problem
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Robin,
You are free to be attracted to whomever you like, just don’t blame your lack of attraction for black men on prohibitions against incest. That just doesn’t make sense.
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Given that most black Americans are not copper/olive complected and don’t have long curly/wavy hair, it seems to me that your attraction to people such as yourself is more incestuous than any attraction you would have for blacks with lower percentages of racial admixture.
Right you are RR, I agree.
Probably the healthiest thing a black woman can do is not treat her hair so that it appears long and wavy.
I agree with the first part of your statement. As to the second part, it doesn’t matter if your hair is ‘wavy’ and long. The texture and length doesn’t matter as long as it is healthy.
Herneith, you’re stuck on just a basic set of features for a WHOLE race.
I am not stuck on ‘just a basic set of features for a whole race’. How did you arrive at that conclusion? I remarked upon the contradictory tone of your post. On one hand you say that you see black men as ‘brothers’, likening any potential relationship as incestuous. Then you go on to describe your preference as basically having the same physical characteristics as yourself. Not all blacks look the same, conversely, not all whites and asians do either.
I don’t have justify it to anyone.
Who said you did? You can date whomever you please. It is none of my concern. I found it bizarre that you would compare dating black men with committing incest. Many asian women do this to, hence the comparison. Oh yeah, you are bashing black men as a group, by comparing a relationship with one as incestuous in nature. I really don’t care who one chooses to hook up/date/marry. Just do so without bashing your own kind.
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I really don’t care who one chooses to hook up/date/marry. Just do so without bashing your own kind.
I strongly agree with this statement.
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Before several of my male cousins were married, all to AW, mind you, they’ve always expressed their desire to date and marry AW. My cousins have said some of these particular AW told them to not bother as they were only interested in WM.
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Same here.
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I seriously don’t get the white guy worship, goes straight over my head.
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My cousins have said some of these particular AW told them to not bother as they were only interested in WM.
Lucky for your cousins, they ain’t missing anything. That is those dumb heifers loss!
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@Herneith:
My cousins have said some of these particular AW told them to not bother as they were only interested in WM.
Yup. They don’t know what they’re missing. Besides, these certain AW did my cousins a favor. Why would anyone want someone like that?
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Why indeed?
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Herneith, I’m sorry that you and some others unable to take care of your hair. If your hair’s healthy, it will grow and be soft. Coarse, kinky hair can be very long and soft, too. My mother’s a living testament.
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@Robin
you confuse me but it’s okay since you are making me laugh.
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Herneith, I’m sorry that you and some others unable to take care of your hair.
Um where did you get this idea no one said this
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Leaveumthinking,
I wonder if you afro-comb logo had anything to do with it…
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I wonder if you afro-comb logo had anything to do with it…
I dont see how a afro pick would suggest that one doesnt take care of their hair. Actually the pick is the best comb to use for my hair type.
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Leaveumthinking,
With regard to:
“I dont see how…
British humour did not ‘Leave-YOU-thinking’ if not amused
has ‘left-me-thinking’.
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J
I figured it was a joke but this blog is like being in The Twilight Zone to me so I answered just in case. Maybe Robin was joking too with her last comment. I really dont see how she came to the conclusion she did.
Merrimay
I seriously don’t get the white guy worship, goes straight over my head.
Only on the internet have I witnessed this white guy worship. Its pathetic to me. Nothing wrong with dating whoever you want whatever the race but the downing of your own people part is what I dont get.
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198 cm you say? It’s too bad I’m not looking for a long distance relationship, otherwise I’d give you a go. Good luck!
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>>But then why do white men seem to have an Asian fetish when black men generally do not? Because one Asian woman in six is married to a white man. But it is probably not even a case of a white fetish among Asian women: many of them live and work in places where it is much easier to meet white men than even Asian men, much less black men.<<
For black men, it tends to be the same issue that causes some of us to be overly attracted to light-skinned black woman. As said in some movie I watched long ago, "She's the white woman you can get." Light skin, long hair.
For military men, it has not been that, though. More than anything else, it's been the very desperate economic situation many Asian women have been in over the last half century that has cause THEM to see black men as imminently acceptable mates.
I spent 12 years in the Far East while I was in the military–Thailand, Okinawa, Korea, Yokota, Philippines. I was also an Army brat, so I grew up with a number of kids whose fathers were black GIs and whose mothers were German, Japanese, or Korean.
If I hadn't been married to a black woman (and had taken her with me) to the Philippines, I almost surely would have married a Filipina. At Clark AB, a GI was like a rock star, or a star athlete. In fact, any GI was a lottery ticket–a way to the Land of the Blue Light Special. I can't fault the women. Compared to the local men available to them, any American was a home run–more considerate, more kind, and more wealthy.
The Philippines was more so in this regard than other Asian countries because the Philippines had been an American colony for half a century. Colonialization creates ties that are not easily broken by the stroke of a pen. Filipinos were "American-sensitized" to the extent that unlike in other Asian nations, having an American son-in-law was seen as a benefit regardless of the social status of the father. If he were wealthy, an American son-in-law could be a business link to new markets.
Unlike other countries, you didn't have to meet a girl through her father in the Philippines–it was quite possible to chat her up where she worked…then she'd invite you to meet the folks.
Here is a story: I got to Clark AB, Philippines, on an Ozzie "Flying Tiger" 747 on a Wednesday morning at 10:00 a.m. (ten-hundred hours in military speak). We were told to report to the base recreation center at 0900 (Oh-nine-hundred hours) the next day for mass in-processing.
That being my fourth tour overseas by that time (and having a wife waiting at home for me to find a house), I'd spent the night chilling in my hotel room rather than roaming the 'ville. But the next morning, the entire group of us were sitting in the rec center as ordered. At my table was a kid right out of Basic Training–slick-sleeved (no stripes at all), had never been anywhere outside his home town.
His first question: "I met a girl last night. What do I have to do to get married?" I looked at my watch. We'd only been in-country 23 and a half hours!
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WOW Americans issues with race will always amaze and shock me, as if their lives are just base on that.
One of my best friend is from Philippine, I met her back in College in 2005 and we both came in the UK in 2003(I’m from Congo,DRC) and are both in our last year in University. We’re both preparing to get our bachelor honour degrees this year,she’s in nursing and I’m on Airport and Airline Management and we love each other very much.
One day after a long day of shopping, we went to eat in a Vietnamese restaurant and while sitting there, there were these 2 Filipino women sitting at a table just next to us, they start talking to her in their mother tongue then after few minutes she turns to me and tell me that those 2 ladies told her that they liked and were happy of our friendship and hope to see those kind of friendship more and more,
because it’s rare in London to see these kind of friendship and were amaze to discover that we’ve been friend for so long and told us to cherish this friendship, I was so touch by what they’ve said and their kindness.
One day she had a BBQ over her place and when I was there I met some member of her family brothers, sisters, family friends, cousins…what wonderful people they are and I was the only black person there and one white man who was her sister boyfriend and all the rest were Filipinos. They were all so nice with me and curious at the same time, I’ve never been asked so many questions in my life than that day, they wanted to know so many thing about black people but the image of black people they had were Americans ones and I have to remind them that I was African and not American and that the only common thing with them was our skin colour. But I have to tell them that not all black people are the way they’re being portrayed by the media, as the told me that back in the Philippines most of the media they watch are Americans media.
I know there are some racist Asians people out there but most of them I met are very kind people and I HATE racism more than anything because when I meet someone of another country I don’t meet their colour or culture but I meet the person/the human being first than I learn to know about him/her and his/her culture. The Asian women that I know here in London are not that obsessed by WM and most of them are dating or married to people of their country I’m not saying all the AW but the one I know and my Filipino friend is married to a Pakistani and they struggling for their families accept their union.
I believe that when it comes to love there’s no colour, yeah it’s true that some people want to get involve or marry certain race for money, fetish or status but there’s people out there as well who do really marry for love just L.O.V.E, sometime I wish that God will just delete(lol) all the racist people from all races of the surface of Earth maybe we’ll have a healthy life and mind.
“LOVE THOSE WHO LOVE YOU AND IGNORE THOSE WHO DON’T BECAUSE LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WASTE IT IN SUCH INSANITY”
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Malaika,
So there’s NO racism in the UK? There’s only racism in America and South Africa?
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@Malaika
Oooookaaaaayy….
I was born and raised in the UK (London) There is a lot of racism here. I get where you coming from, but rare for a black and asian person to be friends? Alright maybe that’s where you live but, see it all the time no big whoop.
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@ Witchsistah
I’m not saying that there’s “NO racism” in the UK, I’m not that stupid. It’s just that since I’ve been living in the UK I haven’t experienced racism personally from any race and it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t hurt and upset me when I see other black people being racially attack…but I was amazed on how it’s such a huge issue in America.
To be honest when I was back in Africa I was thinking that Europe was very racist than America and was dreaming to go and live in America but in my surprise I found that it’s the very opposite, especially by the way black women are portrayed and I’ve discovered it by reading abagond blog. To be honest I never thought that some type of men were thinking that BW were not beautiful and feminine.
What shocked me even more is the black on black racism such as dark skin against light skin, black men not liking some type of black women because they were too dark, which I find “totally ridiculous”while in Africa especially in my country very dark skin are considered very beautiful.
All this is what shock me a lot about America. I know that America have an ugly history regarding race but couldn’t believe it’s still so strong today, in the 21st century, especially for a country and continent with such a multicultural population.
@Aiyo
Contrary to you I’m not born in the UK and as I said to witchsistah I didn’t say that there was no racism in UK but that I haven’t personally experience it and hope never to experience it(even if it’s very delusional for me to say it). It just that I hate being in trouble with people, especially for ridiculous thing like race. I love travelling and meeting people from different countries and learn about there cultures, so for me racism is something I will never tolerate in my life because all it does it destroys and never create. So if one day I have to experience it I will just ignore the person and carry on with my life instead of troubling my mind over it.
Regarding friendship between blacks and Asians in London, if you read my comment carefully you’ll see that I’ve said that it was the lady in the restaurant who said that this kind of friendship was rare not me.
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And as I always tell my friend, if today, God take off the skin of every human being and leave us with just muscle tissues, you’ll be surprise by the IR couple pairing as people will be more attract by personality than skin colour.
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‘But then why do white men seem to have an Asian fetish when black men generally do not? Because one Asian woman in six is married to a white man. But it is probably not even a case of a white fetish among Asian women: many of them live and work in places where it is much easier to meet white men than even Asian men, much less black men.’
I love how so often, people say it’s the men with the fetish for asian women. Never the reverse. And who so often says this? Why the asian women! Many of them, esp the pseudo-intellectual types, love to bemoan this supposedly rampant ‘yellow fever’ but 9 times out of 10, guess who these same women are dating/married to? NON-asian men.
But ya gotta admit, it’s a very clever ploy on their part. Plant the idea in everybody’s minds that it’s the men chasing the asian women, and then on one willl think to question HER and her dating ‘patterns’.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Sure, some men do have yellow fever, but I propose that a number of them have it only because they know the asian women have a thing for THEM. What man doesn’t like to be desired? For a non-asian man to get an asian women, it’s like taking candy from a baby.
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People IR dating rates really don’t tell us much about anything. You have to take into account that all racial/ethnic demographics DO NOT SHARE THE EQUAL PORTIONS of the population. That makes a huge difference when it comes to these statistics…
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I’m very surprised Wesley Snipes hasn’t been mentioned here. Not only is his wife Asian, but he famously insisted that in One Night Stand his character be married to an Asian woman.
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Are you on tumblr, I swear you are one of my tumblr followers. Well having read about your character on here, insulting black women all the time, I will be removing you, which is funny since I have a blog only dedicated to black people and mostly black women are shown.
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http://abagond.tumblr.com/
What is your Tumblr blog? How am I insulting black women all the time?
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I’m attracted to whatever I’m attracted to. Race isn’t an issue. The biggest issues for me are intelligence, mutual respect, empathy, love, honesty, commitment, communicative skills, and confidence.
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JUST US BLACKS FROM USA CAN with asian girls, nowhere else. The lowest grade men are chinese men of China with boys over girls. they cannot lure any other asian girls from richer countries, like my Thailand. so they can only get black african women from Africa, the poorest continent with low education. chinese men from mainland china are being insulted again. 150 years ago, chinese men were bought by european powers as low cost labourers (slave labor) in Cuba and had no choice but just to have sex with black slave women at that time in cuba. in fact chinese men at that time wish to have sex with high class white women, but they could not.
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i’m a thai women. Tiger wood is Thai woman like me. I know best the reason why she married to a foreigner. THAI MOTHER OF TIGER WOOD MARRIED HIS FATHER BECAUSE HIS FATHER IS US CITIZEN, the richest and the most powerful nation on earth, NOT BLACK. in normal circumstances, a thai woman like me and mother of Tiger Wood will not marry any foreigner, but Thai man only who looks more handsome to us thai women. BLACK CANNOT GET ANY ASIAN WOMEN AS THEY ARE POOREST LOOKING MEN IN OUR EYES OF THAI WOMEN, but because some blacks are US citizens.
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I am asian women and I don’t love a man from appearance. I have black man boyfriend and I love him soo much. He is arab african. Love never see to a skin colour or race or the language as long as ur love is pure. Yes asian women is almost with white man with so many reason n we don’t know their personal reason. For me, I love him n it doesn’t matter he is black or not. I am proud of us bcz yes its rare asian women with black man. We love each other n we want to make it real. Pray for us please 🙂
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@malaika: yes I agree with u… There is a lot of mix race couple n we can’t know their real reason why they married with their partner for ex: asian women is very often with white man. Maybe they really love each other or maybe they have any purpose to marry white man, but there is also a person who love their partner just for who they are. N didn’t see the citizen, the colour and anything. Once u love him and u sure he is for u, just go on. Do not use any other purpose for mariage bcz married is not a game. Do not marry white man just bcz they are US citizen or just bcz they want to have a white children, or bcz they think wm is financially better than a bm. Do not ever think about that.
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I’m a black man in Korea married to a Korean woman. I fell inlove with her not because she’s asian or Korean. I love her because she’s smart, attractive, has self-worth, confidence, shows respect for me and herself, but most of all because she loves me for me! I could careless what color she was or what race she was. People need to look past racism. Racism is alive only because people let it. Ignorance is the reason for most stupidity. Educate yourself and stop continuing the cycle of ignorance. Trust in God and your feelings.
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A study I read in my senior year of college, I don’t remember the title (sorry) but the study said that one reason why maybe some Asian women were attracted to white men and Black men could be attributed to height, and visa verse for men. Because there are racial disadvantages for black men and because of family pressures, some aw more likely would prefer wm as partners. Basically the study pointed to the perceived thought that women are attracted to tall men and men are attracted to short women. I don’t know if I agree with this study, I wish I could reference it properly, but it’s worth discussing. I’m a 5.7 black female and I seem to attract all races from almost anywhere. I haven’t visited South America yet. But one thing the men I attract almost always have in common is that they’re short. Short guys are attracted to me. I have a feeling that women and men want what they lack in their sex partner, whether that be socioeconomic advantages or good genes. I feel that we ignore our biological preferences, strong t-cell and b-cell count which differ from ours, and go for socioeconomic advantages, white partners or rich and educated POC. If we all sampled the scent of a potential partner before we saw him/her and went on a date with the scent we liked best, it could be an interesting thing. Whenever I think of preferences I think of the “Sexy son Hypothesis” where women mate with the most attractive man they can get in order to conceive good looking kids. I think women at the same time struggling with the choice to pick a nurturing mate (most of the time unattractive) who can provide opportunities for them and their potential kids. I’m pretty sure that women want to mate with a particular sort of man (manly, tall, athletic) but marry another sort (smart, nerdy, nurturing, rich, easy to control).
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@Munira
Homespun wisdom at It’s best…
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Was there any blog post on Asian men / Black woman couples and their children?
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No.
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@ Peanut
I agree. A new one is up.
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i notice the asians that date interracially with blacks are usally korean,even their music videos have a lot of hip hop dancing in them.Will demps and amerie are beautiful.
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@ mstoogood4yall
Also Filipinos
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Merry Christmas, Peanut!
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@ Peanut
A good idea but no way. I am done writing about personal stuff like that.
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Abagond you do seem to often talk about relationships from the angle of who black men marry. Interracial marriage between black women & non black men is not so rare & those black womem also end up marrying Asian men, latino men etc, not just white men. So far I have only seen you discuss black women & white men. I suppose as a black women with a preference for black, asian & latino men rather than white men I just find all the white men/black woman dialog gets boring.
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Black woman Asian men marriages are also becoming more common. This site states that in 2008 5% of black women married Asian men which is 1 in 20. In the caribbean Chinese men marrying black women has also not been uncommon.
http://www.pr-inside.com/in-terms-of-interracial-marriage-black-r3579976.htm
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Correction that is in 1 in 20 of black American women who are in an interracial marriage are with Asian men (2008 statistics).
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It is rare to see a Black man date an Asian girl. And I am a Black woman. Most of the Black American men that I knew and spoke to told me that they don’t like Asian women.
But where my family is from in the Caribbean, many Black men marry or date Asian women.
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Merri May I notice when I go into south west London I don’t see many interracial relationships even though they aren’t uncommon in London. I guess the amount of white people and tourists in London overshadow them. What I find interesting is that people seem less suprised at seeing south asian & black people couplings (whether friends or romantic) maybe because they have a darker skin tone also but east asian & black seems to garger more attention. Sometimes stares are just bewildermint though I pay no bother to those people. I’m mixed black &white & dated a Japanese guy before & in London I & can recall a few stares but nothing major. However a white guy did ask me why I would want to date a Japanese guy so I guess for some strange reason some white people do get bothered by interracial relationships that don’t even concern them.
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Prior to the repeal of Anti-Miscegenation Laws in 1967 and the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and especially prior to the repeal of the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1943, there were more Asian men / Black women pairings in the USA. Such marriages were legal, whereas Asian / white pairings were not. The Chinese exclusion act (together with the practice of “paper sons”) created a very skewed sex ratio. I read that up to 1/3 of the Chinese (and other ethnic Asian) men who settled in the US South prior to WWII married or had common law relationships with Black women. This might explain why there is a small, but significant Asian component in the African-American population.
A few Chinese men took common law white wives, but that was not common.
And yes, Caribbean Chinese marrying Black women has been common since the 19th century.
But most of this is explained by the sex ratio imbalance also. I know of some Jamaican (and even US) fathers sending their mixed race son to China for some education and possibly to get a wife, or arranging their son to marry a Chinese woman. This practice is no longer common.
The Asian woman / non-Asian man thing is really a more recent phenomenon, something that grew post 70s. It has more to do with social trends, not with the rationale given by Sailer. The truth is that there are more Asian-American women now than before, they may now legally marry outside their race and they have more opportunities to meet non-Asian men (esp. white men) and to be socialized / acculturated into white American norms.
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I should say that the Asian woman / non-Asian man phenomenon is a post 1970s phenomenon in the USA. In Asia, it was the norm (as opposed to Asian man / non-Asian woman) as it was mostly young, single non-Asian men that traveled to Asia 1500s to 1900s (and even today, for that matter).
The Asian man / black woman pairing phenomenon was common only in the places where the sex ratio imbalance for the relevant Asian ethnic group was heavily skewed towards males in areas which had a large number of African-descended people (ie, US South, Caribbean, or even Africa itself), together with a social taboo or legal hurdle towards marrying white women.
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That is interesting to learn that pre 1960’s asian male black woman marriage was common in the states. I guess they were more likely to marry black women than white women because with segregation came signs such as ‘no gooks or blacks allowed’, I guess they had more of a common bond in dealing with that racism.
It seems that Chinese men in particular have more of a history of marriages with black women than other Asian men. A Chinese-Jamaican restaurant sounds yummy to me.
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I don’t think it was because of segregation signs or due to a common bond in dealing with racism, but because
– Asian / Black marriages were legal; Asian / White marriages were not (before 1967);
– Prior to WWII, the sex ratio was heavily skewed towards male, in some areas over 90%. Asian men would have preferred Asian women, but there were very few of them;
– in the US South prior to WWII, a Chinese male who worked in a business serving black clientele was more likely to encounter more black women than white women, at least to the point of having a social relationship
The situation changed by 1940s. In order for Asians to circumvent at least some of the Jim Crow laws, they had to either terminate their relationships with blacks or not welcome those Asians who decided to maintain relationships with blacks. After the 1940s, Asian / black relationships became very rare. They are still relatively rare today.
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Abagond,
I just discovered your blog, and I love it!
Of all the interracial couples I’ve seen, Blasian dating is definitely the rarest. I remember in high school, I and a group of friends (some interracial, others not) discussed “Blasians” and one of my friends talked about very rare that couple was. We joked around about how “ugly” and “weird-looking” their kids would be. (I had so much growing up to do…) I spend a lot of time in Oakland Chinatown (across from SF, CA), and I have only seen one Blasian couple in my entire life walking around. People around them were definitely judging and saying the woman wasn’t a good Chinese girl.
On the other hand, I am more likely to demographically see a white man/Asian woman together far more often than an Asian man/white woman in the SF Bay Area than compared to NYC. Would you possibly consider doing a post on the latter couple? I’d love to hear your opinion on it, since it’s a rare pairing.
Thanks!
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@ Kiwi:
For me, it wasn’t bitter glances, but AFs aggressively clinging to their white BFs’ arms as if I was going to steal them away or something. I’m thinking, “Insecure much?” 🙄
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April 2016
Just look at what this old white “truthseeker” is upto. This is the comment I posted – if he does not delete it:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z61cnpsbTdQ)
“It is not the norm anywhere in the world for women to cohabit with men twice or more their age. Sex and marriage have a whole load of taboos in Asia. Yet so many white men come to various parts of Asia and pick up women, some young enough to be their grand daughters. Is this slavish inferiority complex on the part of local women part of the white man’s colonial legacy? Is this not sexual colonialism/imperialism? The white masters of the black slaves in America could do as they pleased with the black women folk, even take them away from their partners. How this has scarred the Afro-American psyche right up to our times.”
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