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A new Open Thread.
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Peanut did a post on her first day in Brazil:
http://blacknotwhitedippedinchocolate.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/my-first-day-in-salvador-brazil/
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Hang in there, Peanut
Abagond, note to you, I havent exited your blog at all, Im listening…after being falsly acused of “stalking”, I want to make it plain to you that that was catagoricly false , by not even commenting
I prefer to not subject myself to slander by not participating in the conversation and show that acuasations of me “stalking” are ridiculas
I am enjoying reading your blog
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Anyone ever read Medical Apartheid by Harriet A. Washington? It is so horrific the accounts made in the book regarding early medical procedures and the enslaved in the USA. Those MDs were no more than butchers back in the day. I’m not even half way through, but I’m compelled to finish it.
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A meta analysis of polls shows a 91.6% chance for a President Obama victory. Woooooo! XD Please be true….the American people/world deserve a leader with competence, integrity, and humanity.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/state-and-national-polls-come-into-better-alignment/
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While reading blogs, I discovered new horrors of slavery; the rape of black men, and the lynching of black women. I read about the case of Mary Turner. There are no words to describe the sickness of this filth. Of course none of this is ever taught in schools.
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How long do you all think it’ll take for this one to fill up? It seems to happen faster and faster. 😛
Also, nice posts on your visit, Peanut. Almost makes me want to visit Brazil again.
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@Peanut ; Nice blog nice pictures of Brazil, I had no idea racism was so prevalent. Such a beautiful looking people and ugly spirits. smh..
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Happy we can have our Commander In Chief another 4 years. God bless The Obamas and The United States. Praying for everyone one the east coast. Stay warm Abagond.
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And then Mary reminds me that I didn’t read the second post, and my nice feelings towards Brazil evaporate entirely. 😦
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@ Peanut
Please keep writing about Brazil!
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People, Brazil is racist, discriminatory, has colorisation etc, but, Peanut is writing about her American co workers
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i heard brazil was racist they had a music video mockin dark skin women. like alot of other countries with dark skin ppl they treat them different and worship lighter skin. i was shocked to learn blacks weren;t the only ones that deal with light vs dark skin issues.i sometimes see posts where cubans and other light skin latinos will say harsh things about brazilians,dominicans,and puerto ricans.
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I wonder how long before “they” exploit this bright ladies with their hard work and innovation. I wish them well! http://io9.com/5958887/oh-this-just-some-teenage-girls-from-africa-who-invented-a-urine+powered-generator#13524748923403
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Sorry for the language, but “Wow….what a friggin’ baby.”
Anders Brevik the “Aryan Champion” (who had to get surgery to look Aryan), is complaining about his “inhumane” prison conditions. Some complaints in his 27 page letter to the guards included that his three section cell suite and coffee are cold, not enough butter on his bread, and he’s not allowed skin moisturizer.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2012/11/09/norway-massacre-breivik-prison-condition-complaints/1695835/
I wonder how much he’d hate the taste of an American, or Developing World prison.
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He is ‘superior’, hence his ‘superior’ attitude. You cannot make this s**t up!
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As of Saturday November 10, 2012, citizens from 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.
States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.
http://www.examiner.com/article/15-states-including-texas-have-filed-a-petition-to-secede-from-the-united-states-1?fb_action_ids=10151078848096504&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=timeline_og&action_object_map=%7B“10151078848096504”%3A415461161854039%7D&action_type_map=%7B”10151078848096504″%3A”og.likes”%7D&action_ref_map=%5B%5D
Idiots!!!
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http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/allmynotes-organizer/
Nice organizer program and it is free today only!
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The potential for another autocratic Arab regime topped in Jordan:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/14/riots-erupt-in-jordan-the-end-of-absolute-monarchy.html
President Obama’s political influence is far-reaching. Let’s hope that Jordan is able to transition to popularly elected governance in the near future and nothing like Syria happens there.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/11/14/president-obama-holds-press-conference
President Obama’s Nov.14.2012 Press Conference.
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Maine GOP Chair charges voter fraud by “dozens of Black people.”
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/15/maine_gop_chair_alleges_possible_voter_fraud_by_dozens_of_black_people/
Just when you thought that the GOP couldnt sink any lower…
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@ Abagond
I would love to hear your commentary of Lincoln. It comes out this weekend. I want to go see it, but I don’t know if my expectations will be let down. Steven Spielberg does have a good track record regarding getting the historical lens (ie. Schlinder’s List, Saving Private Ryan, and The Color Purple)
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@ Lifelearner
I will not be able to see it this weekend but I hope to see it next week over thanksgiving. I will write a post on it when I do.
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@ Peanut
Travel safe! I loved your posts about Brazil. I hope you can do a few more.
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abe lincoln was racist heres a quote. “I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races—that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
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@ Peanut
Wow, cool – and flattering. Glad to be of assistance!
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One word. Blackemon. I laughed so hard that I vomited up my rice and peas.
http://tommysotomayor.com/?p=12426
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The significance of the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington and its impact on the drug war in North and South America:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20397335#TWEET378521
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@ Peanut
LOL! Have a Happy Thanksgiving too!
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^ What?? If Abagond is indeed “getting some” he is certainly required to blog about it 🙂
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Just wanted to wish you all a Happy and safe Thanksgiving!
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happy thanksgiving, but i looked up the real story and its so sad and horrific. In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared “A Day Of Thanksgiving” because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.
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@ mstoogood4all
Actually the events you describe are from the Pequot War (1634–1638) which began as a trade dispute involving the Pequot and the Dutch and the mistaken killing of a group of English traders who were mistakenly thought to be Dutch. Anyway, the origins of the celebration go back beyond the Pequot War. Early trade association between the English and the Virginia Algonquians peoples were much less troubled, but in any case, the Thanksgiving holiday is not a celebration of the events of the Pequot War.
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Have you seen Africa for Norway?
http://www.africafornorway.no/
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Peanut you are seriously having some Abagond-withdrawal. LOL. Just playing. 😛
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lol – I DIDNT. lemme see whats in the Bulanik mix today.
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Yes. Its gorgeous. The Gen Y-er in me had to fast forward the opening monologue though. But the music is superb. Thanks Bulanik.
On another note a reminder of the voices of the White-Right (wing):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/24/1163910/-Saturday-hate-mail-a-palooza-pre-election-predictions-edition?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos%29
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Capitalism’s grossest win: The final triumph of Black Friday :
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/23/capitalisms_grossest_win_the_final_triumph_of_black_friday/
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Folks, please sign this petition!
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/adopt-bugs-bunny-road-runner-and-alfred-e-neumann-national-symbols-american-people/BQWt23qf
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@ Bulanik,
^^ Oops. I misread your post with my first response. I thought it said “Did you HEAR the music vid that i sent you a week ago?” not “Did you like…”
I missed that post a week ago – thats what I meant when i said that I didn’t (hear it) but that i wanted to see what you had so i was going to scroll up. Then my second response says how i actually feel about it once i had heard it. The saxophone is beautiful as are the vocals.
Very confusing responses on my part. Excuse me.
*puts down the blunt*
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Condoleezza on American intervention in Syria:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/condoleezza-rice-syria-is-central-to-holding-together-the-middle-east/2012/11/23/200e583e-2ebf-11e2-89d4-040c9330702a_story.html
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@ Peanut
I almost always get diarrhoea when I travel overseas. In most cases it goes away on its own, but two times it did not. One time it hung on for like two weeks before I went to see the doctor and he put me on antibiotics. A clear liquid diet (soup, juice, etc) helped it to be not so bad till it went away.
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@ Peanut
I you have not deleted your book don’t! Even if you think it sucks and is going nowhere now, you might be able to do something with it later.
If you sent anything to me to read in the last week or so I have not received it. You will need to send it again.
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@ Peanut
I have been sort of out of circulation since the middle of last week. I was not purposely ignoring you or anything like that.
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@ Peanut,
I think your book probably rocks! Keep writing! It isn’t easy. For anyone. But keep doing it while you develop your voice it will get better and better. Abagond can attest to that I am sure. Good luck! =)
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Peanut , I would think that if it was something in Brazil, it would have hit you there , it sounds strange if it came from Brazil that it would kick in after you got back, unless it was the last meals or the airplane food …if its Dengue fever, that kicks in about 10 days later or so, but that would be achy bones and horrible headache…for sure go see a doctor if it doesnt get better…
Ive always been getting sick in South Beach, but, no matter what, anytraveling outside of the country you are accostomed to, has lots of differant bacterias that your stomach has to get used to…good luck on getting better
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@ Peanut
You had one of those days, huh? If all you have is just plain diarrhoea and nothing else that points to some kind of disease, I had awful diarrhoea for about 2 weeks a while ago. I couldn’t leave home because of it. The doctors just threw pills at me and didn’t tell me what it was. It wasn’t until the second doctor told me to completely avoid these foods: oily (no frying, no butter/margarine on any bread), no dairy products, no meat, no fish. Eating apples also helps. The days of sticking to that were excruciatingly boring because homes here do not automatically come with ovens and grills, so I had to boil everything. Flavourless, soggy and gross… but it worked. If not, I’d recommend getting some anti-diarrhoeal medicine. Hope you’re feeling better soon.
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@ Bulanik.
True. You and your tunes are great – keep on posting them (at least thats my selfishness speaking =))
IN my opinion this board has a lot of outstanding commentors and i think everyone feels ignored at sometime.
I know that others and myself have felt the same way.
But that doesnt mean you should ignore the feeling of falling into the background.
I think the idea that you mentioned that some Brothers have suggested of getting your own blog would be kick a$$. There is currently a gap in the internet content – one that has your name on it. Fill that gap if that feels natural.
Thats my pov.
I know ill be reading (even if i dont post all the time). =)
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@ Bulanik:
Perhaps you should give blogging a try. Going by what I’ve read of your many contributions here on Abagond, your blog would be insightful and thought provoking.
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@ Bulanik
Wow, I never thought of myself as attracting that much attention nor being very memorable, but that you mentioned me as one of the people whose comments you come to read is very flattering! Especially since I feel very much the same as Leigh204. Often, I find your comments are some of the most interesting and enlightening to read and I think many regulars here feel much the same way about you. 🙂 I would read your blog, even if it’s posted on irregularly and jumps from one thing to another. Ultimately, whether you want one or not is up to you, though.
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@ everyone,
Just got a great email! Had to pass on the message. I am being examed for a university student government p0sition in immigration!!! Wooo. This is what Ive been wanting for soo long. Dreams do come true!!! Now I have to pass two tests and face-to-face oral exams. Can’t wait to try. =D here is hoping i pass…
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@ Bulanik,
Thanks – looking forward to reading more from you! 😉
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@ JT
Good luck!
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@JT
That’s great to hear! I’m sure you’ll do fantastic. 😉
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Thanks @ abagond & @ tehnoun,
Thank you kind Sir(s). We’ll see what happens! I would really like to work for the government and help change things in the immigration system from inside out. Obviously, that doesnt start from day 1 but something that would be a long term project…project infiltration …muahah. =) Just playing. Ill follow the rules but with a more progressive bent. Thats all im saying. XD
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All this talk about Christmas-related stuff has saddened me. This is the first Christmas without my mama. I went shopping at the mall today and while listening to the Christmas songs being played in the stores, I became emotional and I broke down in tears. My mom’s favorite song em”Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas” came on. When I was a little girl, I would play this song for her on the piano and she would sing. Now my mom’s Filipino accent was very thick. And she was so proud of herself that she could sing this particular song entirely in English without stumbling. Oh, those sweet memories. Gosh, I miss her so much. 😦
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@ JT
Congrats on getting to do the exams and good luck for all the tests. 🙂
@ Bulanik
No need to thank me. 🙂
If you do decide to start a blog once you’ve tackled your workload, I’ll be looking forward to reading it!
It’s not too hard for me to believe that you’re rather silent offline. After all, I’m actually very much the same myself! People always complain I don’t talk enough. Writing is far easier than speaking when it comes to putting my thoughts and feelings into words.
Despite what you say about the difficulties of writing, it has always been my impression that writing well comes naturally and easily for you since you explain everything so well.
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@ JT:
That’s awesome news! Best of luck in your test and oral exams!
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@ Bulanik:
Thank you for your support and encouragement! I spoke with my significant other just now about what happened and he said he would play that Christmas song in remembrance of her and for the good times we had. I smiled in anticipation.
And I find it comforting that I’m not alone in all this. I know you, dear Bulanik, that you are experiencing the same feelings regarding the loss of your father. This makes us kindred spirits. We’ll get through this. I’m sure of it. 🙂
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@JT
Miss, sweetie. Unless something has changed that I wasn’t aware of. 😛
Still, it’s nice to hear things are working out the way you planned. Good luck! 🙂
@Bulanik
You don’t give yourself enough credit. Your comments are always some of the most insightful around. A blog by you would be a real treat, but don’t feel pressured to do anything if your workload would make running a blog difficult (which I’m not the best example of, given my horrible update schedule). 🙂
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Trayvon 2.0
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zKxprhqfs8&feature=g-u)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG5RO1-31Bw&feature=g-u)
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@ leigh204 & Bulanik
Wishing you both courage and strength as well as all the love and support you need for the holidays! I’m sure you’ll both make it through.
Bulanik, I think everyone loves you. 😉
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Time flies when there’s too much work and not enough play.
Anyhow, just have to get this off my chest:
I am so tired of these idiot politicians in the US!
Now that the election is over, these Republican idiots haven’t yet got the clue that everyone is sick of them and everyone just wants them to Shut Up and do their job in Congress…which is –Fix the Mess that You All Created 10+ years ago.
The majority of the population just made it loud and clear that they are sick of Republicans and their big mouths — that’s why they lost the Election in a big way….and as usual they are Not listening.
They keep talking and talking about Susan Rice and Benghazi…before the attack, none of those Republican people (or even half the population in America) could spell the word “Benghazi”, much less find it on the map….all of a sudden–everyone’s an expert and a critic about Libya, Syria and the middle east.
The Republicans started a war in Iraq based on a HUGE lie, which they bold-facedly repeated over and over, and now 10 years later (4000+ dead Americans and 1+ million dead Iraqis later), everyone is supposed to look to the Republicans as the torch-bearers of Truth and Light..
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Funny news of the day:
$150 million dollar fail by Jewish-American magnate to get President Obama out of office:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/03/sheldon-adelson-2012-election_n_2223589.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada
Geez … even i could have saved him money – it was obvious to many that President Obama would be reelected.
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That snow effect startled me for a moment. I thought something was wrong with my monitor or something.
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Everyone,
Forgive me for intruding, but the following is a continuation of a long argument eco is having with a statement I made in a post entitled “Why do whites, hate, demonize, fear and look down on blacks?”
“And why should it matter if others should or should not agree with me, or accept my claims as the truth? ”
Do you consider saying ignorant things as something negative? If you don’t, then you don’t have to care if the things that you believe are true are actually true. If you do, then you might want to analyze which elements of your worldview can be considered true, ‘objective’, and which are a matter of a person’s perspective, their individual experiences and beliefs. Being precise and avoiding talking about large, vaguely defined groups of people would be a nice touch too.
You can’t even answer a simple question, eco. Plus, you have shown not only your arrogance but how inflated your ego is. What I’ve said came from my worldview. Like I’ve said over and over, part of what I said was based on research. Still, this is a personal view that I have of the world.
Whether or not you agree with it or think it’s rational doesn’t matter. It matters less than yet another attempt to pick apart and cherry pick another response to keep the conversation going veering it to a subject about how you – that’s right, you think it’s wrong and the millions of reasons why. None of which matters to me because I don’t care. I don’t see why you do, and yet, you can’t explain why you do.
“So, why are you even bothering to drag this on if nobody, including you, according to you, has a reasoning most appropriate for this conversation?”
That’s not what I said. There MAY be a reasoning better than the one I presented, but such a reasoning hasn’t been put forward yet.
And I have a feeling that won’t accept that reasoning because it interferes with your reasoning. So, what’s the point in continuing this argument? So that you can have the final say? So you can win? What is it?
“I don’t see why this is such a big deal to you. Nobody does.”
That’s true. A lot of people here do not recognize ignorance when the ignorant statement fits into their worldview. Apparently some believe that certain ways of thinking are wrong only when the people they disagree with use these ways of thinking.
That is such smugness. You, once again, are implying that what I said was ignorant. And it is based on what? Whatever it is, it’s based on what you say as if you have the ultimate qualifications to determine what’s what.
Then, you say that most people here, which I assume you mean the regulars of this blog, don’t recognize ignorance if it fits their worldview. If it does fit their worldview, why call it ignorant if they have dealt with complications related to the subject in the first place? In that case it’s only ignorant to those who could not and would not consider that the perspective of others is different from their own only to call it ignorant and wrong.
Next, Some believe that certain ways of thinking are wrong if those ways disrupt the basic human rights which include happiness and heath, among others. If a certain mentality hurts them in such a way that scars them somehow, they have a right to speak up for themselves and say what’s wrong. And that’s what I’ve done in that post. Plain and simple.
You see eco, that’s what white racism does to POC everyday. It is based on nothing more than the notion that white skin tones are indicators of intelligence and strong moral values. So, when POC have something to say about that, those, like what you’ve done in the post, call it wrong, immoral and racist. Yet, those same people will not acknowledge the real power which is white racism. The trolls that you see represent that mentality, and they have same plenty of offensive crap that pours salt into the deep wounds of POC. Why? Because it continues to exist. White racism won’t allow itself to die as long as those with the white racial frame want to keep it alive and going so that whiteness continues to be the false norm and a phony, cheap cloak of supremacy.
Now, I know what you’re going to do, you’re going to keep this going with more redundant questions and more pseudo-logical assumptions. The truth is eco is that you are being highly illogical yourself.
In the first place I don’t want to pull any straws, but how could you know what it’s like to be a POC in a white dominated society? Let’s go a little deeper while being critical, who could you know I was talking about ALL white people all over the world? How do you know I wasn’t just referring to whites in the West? How do you know I wasn’t referring to most or many whites in the West?
You’re basing your arguments on a mere assumption, an assumption you want to take apart and reassemble into something other than what it was.
That is highly illogical.
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@ Brothawolf,
Sounds exhausting. Kudos for holding your ground. I would ban his @$$. Just for tiring me out and thinking he can justify racism as a logical extension of his experience. That is just annoying and probably even trolling.
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Looks like we have a Trevan Martin part II brewing:
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/this_is_no_country_for_young_black_men_20121203/
http://blackstarnews.com/news/135/ARTICLE/8575/2012-12-03.html
I hadn’t heard of this story till today. The woman speech in the video is riveting.
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@ Abagond
Is there a reason why you no longer have the map icon that displays the various countries that visit your blog? It was quite interesting piece of information. Twitter lingo now in its place. I’m guessing a majority of hits are from the USA. I definitely could be wrong 😉
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@ lifelearner
I got rid of those. I did a post on the traffic on this blog. I has a screen capture of one of the widgets:
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@brothawolf
I think our conversation doesn’t belong here. IMO it’s safe to assume that most people who visit this topic are not familiar with the details of our discussion and, more importantly, they do not care.
Oh well… Here is my summary of our exchange of comments…
My point is very simple. People are not supposed to make generalizations about millions of other people they’ve never met and say/pretend their opinion about those millions of people is the truth. It may seem like the truth to the person voicing the opinion, it may look justified, but it is not ‘objectively’ true. It’s an opinion, a belief, their perspective, etc.
Brothawolf keeps bringing up his subjective experiences and the experiences of other people he knows to justify his generalizations, but doesn’t seem to get why that can’t make the generalizations ‘objective’, that in order to be ‘objectively’ true they can’t rely on anyones opinion. I said that people who can’t recognize their opinions as what they are and try to make it seem as if their subjective beliefs were ‘objectively’ true are being ignorant and illogical.
I feel my point is clear, but he keeps trying to present it as something it is not: me attacking his freedom of speech, me telling him how he should think/feel, me protecting white racists, some kind of personal feud, etc. I think he either doesn’t understand why my point is or is trying to avoid a conversation about which aspects of his worldview are ‘objectively’ true.
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@ Eco,
Don’t pi$$ on someone and then tell them its raining. Or if you do, expect that it will come back your way and then some.
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@ Abagond
Cool stuff right there. Now if you only there were a monetary exchange for each hit your received. You would be rich, my friend! 😉
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@JT
I’ve criticized him and constructed a reasonable argument. In return he rants about his experiences and tries to make it look as if I was attacking their validity and the experiences of all other POC. Instead of constructing a rational defense, he is trying to appeal to ‘bystanders’ (in this topic and on his blog), hoping others will accept his narrative, ignore my actual point and side with him because they feel empathy for him. You see that as a strong comeback? Looks more like the Black version of white woman’s tears to me.
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eco,
I don’t care if other people are familiar of what’s going on with his argument or not. I brought it over here because it was making the thread longer and harder to load, and it was veering off course of the topic of the post itself.
Once again, you are bringing up my comment as a case of generalization of millions of certain people. Yet, you have not said one word to the countless trolls who take it upon themselves to do the same thing with nonsensical reasons. I never said that it was objective. I said that there are many POC who share the same sentiments based on their experiences. So, there must be some truth to it. And I’ve brought other examples to back up my case.
My point is clear also. I’ve stated firmly that I will not take it back no matter what you or anyone else says. The only person seem obsessed with trying to take it apart and make someone the bad guy is you. I told I am done. Yet, you continue to beat a dead horse. This is why I think you want to have the last say and win this argument.
Finally, I presented it as best as I can. You are the one telling me in some way or other, over and over that it’s illogical or wrong without any good reasons.
And what good reason is there for me or anyone else not to think you are protecting white racists, that you are taking this personal, and the like? So far, all of the evidence is against you, and you just can’t or won’t see it. That’s why I don’t think you’re being as logical as you say you are.
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eco,
What makes your argument any more reasonable than mine? That is just your opinion and not a fact.
Others have accepted my points many times because they can relate. What I’ve said was identifiable because they’ve had similar experiences or they agree on certain topics.
Does that happen all the time? No. And that’s okay. I don’t try to argue with them unless they bring it in a disrespectful, pretentious way as if to say I don’t know what I’m talking about.
I’m not here to play on anyone sympathies the same way some white women do as you’re brought up white woman’s tears. I’m here because this is the one place online or anywhere where I feel like I can learn and give feedback. I don’t pretend to know more than everyone on a particular subject and act high and mighty especially when they give their opinions. The only time I ever go on the “attack” is when, and only when, certain people start something they can’t finish.
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@brothawolf
“you have not said one word to the countless trolls who take it upon themselves to do the same thing with nonsensical reasons.”
So? Does that make my point in your particular case any less valid?
I have mentioned I do recognize their actions as wrong, but I generally avoid having conversations with people who do not seem reasonable. Why should i waste my time on them? Just so you wouldn’t feel singled out?
“I never said that it was objective.”
You presented your opinion, your generalization, as the only possible conclusion. That implies objectivity.
“I told I am done. Yet, you continue to beat a dead horse.”
We are both replying to each other. We are equally responsible for the fact that this conversation hasn’t ended.
“What makes your argument any more reasonable than mine? That is just your opinion and not a fact. ”
The truth is ‘objective’. That is one fact. Subjective opinions based on a person’s experiences are not ‘objective’. That’s another one. Claiming a cherry picked group can be representative of millions of people is subjective unless a ‘objective’ justification/explanation exists. Third one.
My argument is more reasonable because I’m relying on obvious facts and basic logic and not my personal feelings, opinions or experiences.
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Legion,
You’re right. This has gone on far enough.
Eco,
If you haven’t applied your “logic” to the dipstick trolls who have made clearly racist comments regarding blacks but instead leach on to my one and only comment regarding my so-called generalization of whites, that makes you look like somewhat of a hypocrite and someone incapable of having a serious conversation with regarding the issue of race and racism.
I already said my piece, and this case is closed. And in closing, I suggest you stop showing off as if you are some highly logical and morally responsible paragon. I’ve presented my arguments appropriately, staying within the original thread.
I never said that my worldview is objective and you know it. So, don’t try to spin what I’ve said to mold yourself in your self-serving image to satisfy your ego. I said my piece and more.
The only one making a fool out of himself is you because you’re arguing with a man of color that you have NO clue about the subject important to him. You don’t know what you’re talking about and you need to humble yourself and quit putting up a front.
That’s why I’m closing this circus, once and for all. It’s gone off long enough and it’s getting extremely pathetic. You are trying to find illogical flaws in a conversation that doesn’t call for a logic test in the first damn place especially since racism isn’t logical in the first place. You merely are trying to portray yourself in a role that isn’t for you. You can think what you want to think and I can do the same and move on. That’s why I’m saving any more further embarrassment by calling this case closed.
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@brothawolf
I would have been a hypocrite If I applied different standards of logic to you and the trolls. I haven’t. In my first comment addressed to you I have pointed out you are using a faulty thought process they are using too. The fact that I chose to talk to you merely means that I preferred talking to you over discussing this with them.
If you really believe that the fact that you haven’t explicitly called your opinion “objective” and have based it on your unique experiences means it shouldn’t be criticized, then you should apply this to the trolls too. Why should they be criticized? Why are their generalizations (about Black intelligence or violence, etc.) wrong? They are only voicing their opinions based on their experiences. They are not explicitly saying their beliefs are the ‘objective’ truth. Can we know how it feels to be them? Can we know and understand what they experience? Nope. So, can we determine that their generalizations are wrong? Yeah, by knowing how to distinguish opinion from fact. We do not have to know how it feels to be them to be able to recognize that what they are saying just isn’t ‘objectively’ true.
Racism being logical or illogical has nothing to do with it. It’s just a context in which the thought process of the generalizations is being used in this particular case. People can make this kind of flawed generalizations about many other things.
You are right about one thing – I’m not an authority on logic. I just value it. It allows people to draw a line between subjective and ‘objective’ things – to realize what is actually true and what only seems true to them.
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@ Eco,
Why don’t you invest some time reviewing Abagond’s/Brothawolf’s/others archives of SYSTEMIC and PROLONGED WHITE INSTITUTIONAL RACISM. There are probably millions of exhibits of evidence. Instead of relying on Brothawolf to issue all of them to you in the course of a response and then for you to try and pedantically pick them apart to make a conclusion that he is illogical and that SYSTEMIC and PROLONGED WHITE INSTITUTIONAL RACISM does not exist nor ever existed.
You might learn a lot – or nothing – this all depends on how open your mind is.
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@ Eco,
Furthermore, your false equivalence of Black people expressing their dismay with the system vs. the cyber-KKK community (i.e. most whites that wage verbal wars on this subject) is especially LUDICROUS considering the context of the last 500 years of history and the social-economic pit that white people have tried to shove Black people down. It is not hard to see this if you have eyes open. And there are more enough illustrations of this subjugation outlined on this website and others. If you are SERIOUS about discussion, do your homework first and then maybe talk can be had on equal understanding. Right now you are woefully unprepared to come to the table.
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it was a fireball that landed somewhere here in texas yesturday. its lookin like the maya prediction is being somewhat true.anyway the stores are already being packed as hell and christmas songs are playing. i don’t like christmas music that much but i love mariah careys all i want for christmas and silent night.what is everyone else favorite songs?
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i love old school music because it was a story that the artist told and some of the great songs were recorded during jim crow. they were used to show others that blacks loved,laughed,and felt pain too. now music today is just full of ppl that act and are being someone they are not[rick ross] just to get money.the rappers today talk about struggling and im just like what. ppl back then had to struggle because of racism,lynchings,and unemploement and being uneducated, you maybe have to deal with 2 of those things. i like tv one more than bet because it has shows on there that aren’t showing all the sterotypes of black ppl but Bet does. i hope more black ppl wake up and not try to be like the blacks they see on tv.i miss good black shows like the cosby show,sanford and son.and good times. its like 1 step forward 2 steps back. there is punishment for killing blacks now[1 step forward]. now we have ghetto shows like basketball wives and terrible rappers who promote drugs and sex[2 steps back].blacks need more positive shows now more than ever because now we are not held back physically but only mentally if we overcome that we will be on the right track.
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@ mstoogood4yall
My all time favorite Christmas songs are Silent Night by the Temptations, This Christmas by Donny Hathaway (blame my parents, always enjoyed old school music, growing up in the 90s 🙂 ) and would also have to agree with you on TV programs nowadays. I enjoy TVone as well-Amen, Different World, Martin are some of my favs as well. The only reality TV I do watch is Tia &Tamara, Welcome to Sweetie Pies, and Fix My Life.
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@lifelearner
i love those shows as well and i feel tvone is more for empowering and educating blacks than bet is.isnt sweetie pies the show on oprahs network that has the highest ratings outta all the shows on there, and am i the only one that thinks charles is gay.iylana fix my life is great too that episode with that woman leaving her family for another man was crazy.
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Abagond i love your blog and i love that i can type how i feel without being moderated. Other black websites i’ve been to have nothing but posts about dumb rappers and swirling like bossip and madamenoire. I cant stand those websites because the posters on there are mostly trolls and say negative things about bw/bm and are rude. The posters here are kind,educated,and enlightening. Even when there is a disagreement they don’t resort to cursing and calling each other racial slurs.
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im thinking of changing my poster name…. any suggestions
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mstoogood4yall
How ’bout *Good4All* or *Good4U*
: )
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@mstoogood4yall
LOL! about Charles on Sweeties Pies. You are not alone. I thought the same thing. Or maybe he’s just effeminate, he does hang around a lot of women. I support OWN, some folks can’t stand Oprah, but she really is a great role model, at least to me 😉 Iyanla show is off the chain, she tells those folk like it TIS!
as far as name change, maybe? *2Good4U* or *MissGoodie* or *2Good2B*
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lol thanks for the suggestions. i had toogood4u as a name b4 but ppl thought i was a boy so i changed it.
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http://www.pawnation.com/2012/12/10/photo-of-panda-flying-business-class-tricks-thousands/
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@JT
You have extremely misunderstood and misrepresented my comments.
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Sign this petition please, “declare Stand Your Ground law illegal” https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declare-stand-your-ground-laws-illegal-accordance-federal-law-require-states-amend-laws-match/pLR1JYxh
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http://sportyafros.com/hair/rhonda-lee-fired-her-responding-to-comments-about-her-natural-hair/
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a gunman killed 20 kids and 6 adults in conneticut pray for the families.this is tragic that kids can;t even go to school to learn without being shot by another studentor adult,or be bullied by both adults and students,and deal with teachers having sex with students.school is definetly not the place it used to be.now they are saying the gunman had mental illness i can figure out his race based on that.
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@peanut
i think gun control is a great idea its just most ppl say its making the good suffer with the bad.i definetely think they need to have mental evaluations on all ppl that purchase guns.if you wanna homeschool your kids go for it. i was homeschooled and am grateful when i see how some of my classmates turned out.
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whites don’t want gun control and say it is to protect against the government and criminals. well where are u gun enthusiasts when ish like this goes down where are your armed militias.thats right their too busy killin young black men instead of killing the real murderers.guns are a part of their history. guns and whites go way back from the killing of natives for manifest destiny to using guns to keep the blacks in line during slavery and jim crow.to the modern of using guns to kill innocent kids.most of these ppl just have guns for the what if scenario but i know more stories of guns being used for bad than good.if the good gun owners must suffer with the bad so be it if it saves lives. if the good gun owners are really good they won;t mind going through more red tape to get or keep guns to keep guns outta the wrong hands. i know the ppl are going to defend guns and say well in china a man stabbed 20 kids and that’s a weapon too. guns are more deadly than knives will ever be just ask the natives and africans that tried to bring a knife or spear to a gun fight against the white man.
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@ Peanut
I feel you and i am outraged as well. The thing that cheers me up is the upcoming days i’m staying in and gettin my popcorn to watch these crazy people go crazy because they think the world is going to end because some ancient ppl said so.Its funny to me how whites say they believe in god but the moment someone says the world is going to end and there is some science involved they forget all about what the lord said about nobody will know the time nor the hour not even jesus himself only the father.So unless the mayans are god their ish is invalid.
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@ peanut
The other thing that i find funny is how everything is whitewashed. Santa is white and jesus is supposedly white. Its like white savior stereotype is everywhere.Behave little black kids and you too will get presents from the great white man known as Santa Claus.Santa will bring your black a.ss a present even if you live in the hood and have been good,but your parents can’t afford gifts.There will be presents under your tree. Child wakes up the next morning no presents.Momma why are there no presents.well child we couldn;t afford them this year sorry. But santa is supposed to bring me presents i’ve been good haven’t i ? Yes you have. Then why didn’t i get presents but cindy lou who is always picking on others that aren’t like her, how come she gets presents. she should have gotten coal. Well sweetie your father and I couldn’t afford to and her parents could.But santa was supposed to bring me a present then. Sorry son but Santa isn’t real. What?!! Then there won’t be a great white man coming to give me presents and take me to white heaven.That is an excert from my upcomin book entitled Behave Little Black Child: A Christmas story. My next book is going to be titled Behave Black Man: A Gun owner’s Handbook.
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@ mstoogood
“My next book is going to be titled Behave Black Man: A Gun owner’s Handbook.”—ROFL…Thank you for that. I was about to write a long rant about the shooting and read that and decided not to.
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@mstoogood4yall
After reading your comments, I’m beginning to agree with your username. 😛
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@ Peanut
I told my kids straight that there is no santa. Save them from the harsh reality later in life.
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lol thanks yall are too much. i love making people laugh. it is sad what tragedies happen daily in our world but if you can smile you win.i wonder why ppl do tell their kids santa is real. i think its peoples way of manipulating their kids to act right when they won’t listen to them,but that fails when they become teens.
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Ok Peanut so we are to believe that this heavily armed guy dressed in all black with body armor(pretty convenient since he killed himself) brought three guns “legally” owned by his mom. First his mother worked there…. then his mother may have worked there. Look either she did or she didn’t. There should be no may have and if she worked there then why wasn’t she there? and if your beef was with your mom then why go to her “school” and kill all kinds of kids with no motive. Even you guys that think there are white nuts who are prone to be serial killers have to think this doesn’t add up. I mean first they were saying the mom was a teacher then she may have volunteered there. I just don’t get it.
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check it out .. now they’re saying his mom had no affiliation with the school. So first you kill your mom with no known motive… then you go to a school that your mom was at first a teacher then a volunteer then no known affiliation… now “maybe” the shooter went there….. If these fuckers are pulling some funny stuff we need to take action. I hope I’m wrong and there is no conspiracy and the news people were false reporting on some hunches or false reports…. if not I’m very worried.
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how does that not add up.There was a guy a couple years ago that went to a school board meeting and tried to kill the board memebers because his wife was fired.the guy that shot up that conneticut school didn’t need a motive crazy people don’t need a motive.The guy that shot up the movie theater didn’t need a motive either he just did it or do you think he had something against twilight.people don’t need a motive to do terrible things and its not the prosecutors job to know the motive it just helps them make their case sound more convincing.The media is always mixing up facts it doesn’t matter if she was a teacher or a volunteer either way the fact is she had connections to the school.It would be suspicious to me if she didn’t work there and her son had no guns or had an alibi.this case is closed.
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People are saying that all of these recent massacres are a part of a larger orchestrated plan to crack down on personal gun ownership. I don’t know if that’s true but I don’t believe in coincidences and especially not back-to-back stuff like this. Initially in the presstitute they reported a 2nd gunman, what happened to that? In the Aurora shooting intitially eyewitnesses were saying they saw 2 gunmen but you don’t hear about that anymore. Bottom Line: you can’t trust anything the media says and you cannot put anything past the US govt–they have proven time and time again that they have no problem killing ‘innocents’ to move forward a larger agenda, ie: 9/11.
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lol peanut that song is funny now its stuck in my head.
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@ maat433
Manchurian Candidates
Mind Control
Project MK Ultra
False Flag Operations
Managed/Conditioned/Programmed Societies & Populations
Gun Control
Dumbed Down Curriculums
Depopulation agendas
Secret FEMA Concentration Camps
Police State
Genetically Modified Foods, etc..
Biological, Genetic Warfare
Deadly Vaccines
The North American Union/Amero
New World Order
One World Govt
Powerful Lobbies
Bankers, Fiat Money, IMF, WTO
Secret Experiments
…just to name a few things THEY have in mind for us…
even the institutional so-called church has been compromised (they should all echo the message/warnings of Rev Jeremiah Wright)
There are no coincidences, or accidents!
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Chocolate balls……
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@ Peanut
No. I took a wild guess. LOL
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@Legion
I am the General of the Feminist Legions. PREPARE TO DIE! 😛
You avatar does look nice, Bulanik.
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@Bulainik; You are just stunning if that’s you in your avatar.
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@Bulainik; I want a picture of a weeping angel statue, I think they are beautiful.
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I saw one in a cemetary and it moved me.
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I do love tehnoun’s rainbow rose.
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@mary
![](https://i0.wp.com/f.nanafiles.co.il/upload/Xternal/IsraBlog/07/39/82/823907/misc/26545824.jpg)
You mean like this? 😛
[/bad reference jokes]
Also, thanks, mary and Bulanik. Rainbows and roses are amongst my favorite things, so I figure combining the two can only lead to awesome results.
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@Legion Macy Gray and Cee Lo doing Crazy. Now that is just totally bananas.LOL!
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@ peanut
i saw that story on yahoo and the commenters were saying it was a joke and get over and i’m offended that you’re offended.i can’t stand how people expect blacks and other people of color to not be offended by such foolishness.they are on the outside looking in and don’t know how it feels.Even when victorias secret offended the native americans with their parading around in skimpy outfits with a native american headress on people thought they shouldn’t be offended.I’m tired of people telling me or other people if they are allowed to be offended to me that is their way of trying to control people and the way they feel.
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj30lbc5_mI)
Abagond… Please shed light on this. It will tell me you care for all people not just blacks. Watch the whole video.
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Actually Abagond, delete this I have my reasons. I’ll send you an email… thank you.
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@ Dave that vid reinforces why i don’t trust cops and that vid of them beating up that homeless man in california and killing him is very disturbing too.
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@ Peanut:
I never believed in Santa. My parents told me from the beginning Santa Claus wasn’t real. They said strange, fat white men aren’t physically able to climb down the chimney bearing gifts to good girls and boys. I think that was my parents’ way of telling me I wasn’t going to get the presents I wanted that year. LMAO! :p
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OMG, it’s official! I’m engaged! My bf proposed to me today on Christmas Day! That’s the BEST Christmas present EVER!! I’m soooo happy! 😀
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@ Leigh
Congratulations! What a wonderful Christmas present.
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@leigh204 Congratulations. What a lovely Christmas gift.
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@Peanut; Great post on your blog about Christmas during slavery. Good job.
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Abagond; Happy Kwanzaa.
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HAha!! Congratulation Leigh, many happy years to you!!! I wish you every happiness!
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@leigh204
Congratulations! What a perfect gift. Were you surprised?
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Congrats Leigh!!!
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How exciting! Congrats, Leigh. Maybe you’ll get on one of reality wedding day shows 🙂
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@leigh
Congratulations! Your future husband’s a smart man, and I hope you’re really happy together. 🙂
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@ Abagond;Did you have to get Staci-Anne Chin’s permission to use her image on your open thread? I think she is an interesting person. I saw on a PBS program called Point of View.
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Oh you know what I just typed her name in the search, I found a post that you did on her. I think she’s cool.
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I have bought at least 2 books based on posts from Abagond. Now I am looking for a book the does a good job of detailing and explaining the institution of salvery in North America from beginning to ‘end’. Can someone make a recommendation? Something you would give a 9/10 or 10/10.
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@Looking For Answers Bull Whip Days by James Mellon quite compelling.
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@ Bulanik:
Thank you very much for the warm well wishes, sweet lady! Oh, and the YouTube clip, too. As always, your sweetness and thoughtfulness are appreciated! 😀
@ abagond:
Thanks! I’m on cloud nine.
@ mary burrell:
Thank you! I’m still finding the whole engagement thing taking a while getting used to. 🙂
@ Legion:
Thank you so much for the lovely congratulatory message!
@ King:
Aw, thank you! I’m very happy right now. 😀
@ Iris:
Oh, thanks! I was definitely surprised. My fiancé was helping me unwrap the Christmas presents when he pulled out an engagement box and opened it to reveal the ring inside. My eyes popped and my jaw dropped.O_O
@ Sharina:
Thank you, girl. 🙂
@ lifelearner:
Thanks a bunch! Idk about a reality wedding show. I’m a pretty private person, but a reality wedding show would certainly be interesting. 🙂
@ tehnoun:
Aw, thank you for the congrats! Speaking of smart man, my honey’s friends have been telling me the best thing he’s ever done was to propose to me. How funny is that? lol!
Again, thank you everyone for all the wonderful engagement wishes! I’m touched! My fiancé and I feel truly blessed. ^_^
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Totaly missed this , Leigh, super congradulations
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@ peanut
what didn’t you like about it.i will not see that movie anyway but what in particular did you not like.i heard they say the n word a lot in that movie is that what upset you
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Leigh
You deserve this happiness… bask in it.
Undoubtedly your fiance knows he’s getting a VERY special lady. : )))
I’m happy for you both!
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@ mary burrell
Thanks!
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@ Peanut and Matari:
Thank you two for the congrats! I can’t wait to build our future together! 😀 😀
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So for such a concerned brother no reference to Kwanzaa?!
Interesting.
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@ Peanut
Check your email.
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@ mary burrell
I do not celebrate Kwanzaa, but thanks. Have a Happy Kwanzaa!
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Mbeti,
That’s the same comment you left me. I’m sorry, but what’s up, man?
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@ Mbeti
I do not celebrate Kwanzaa.
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Happy New Year all.
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Happy New Years!!!
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Happy New Year!! @ All Any new’s year goals?
@Abagond-Are you posting in book recommendations, this year? I’m set to read 30 books for 2013 (I know, it’s not a lot compared to most, but it’s an obtainable goal for myself-with my busy life.) 🙂
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@ Lifelearner
I will later today.
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@ Peanut
You actually went into Django, thinking that it was going to be historically accurate? From the first mention of Django Tarantino said that it was going to be nothing more than a Spaghetti Western. You not liking it is your own fault because you didn’t do research into what the film was going to be like. So you went into it while assuming that it was going to be something, that it was never intended to be. It’s just like Tarantino’s movie Inglorious Bastards, where Jews kill Hitler. It’s a Michael Bay movie with a revenge theme.
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@ Legion
All I can say is wow to that link you provided.
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Agabond, have you read anything about this story?
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@ Anne
No, but it sounds good.
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Agabond,
I am tempted to buy the video to watch it.
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I stumbled across this restuarant looking for a painting of Shaka Zulu: http://www.shaka-zulu.com/
Is it me or is this place awesome?
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@Looking for Answers; That place is awesome.
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Another trash reality show, coming down the pipeline. Please sign this petition “all my babies mama” *SMH* http://act.colorofchange.org/sign/oxygen/?akid=2789.1430754.5E9Qr_&rd=1&t=2
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Wow, I think model Cameron Russell says some very true things about race and cashing in on a genetic lottery on her Ted talk,
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM4Xe6Dlp0Y)
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@ King
Thanks for posting this…
This was an honest presentation on the effects of internalized racism as it affects white people. Well, in this particular case, young aspiring to be female models. Its not often we get to hear in the media women in Cameron Russell’s position addressing and speaking out about the false media constructed images of beauty and the inherited legacy of white privilege this confers on white people in our societies. Also, the anguish and fears of insecurity it internally manifests along with this.
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This beautiful THING speaks for itself!
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By Denene Millner for Parenting
It’s a ritual I began the first day my girlpie, Mari, started kindergarten. I’d fluff her super cutie outfit, adjust the fancy barrettes in her hair, take her little moon pie face into my hands, kiss those beautiful cinnamon brown cheeks, and pump her up all the way from the garage to the front steps of her school, where she was the only black girl in her class. “You are fantastic, baby girl — the smartest little girl I know,” I’d say, looking directly into her big browns, like a trainer does a sweaty heavyweight champ between rounds in a boxing bout. “Be fabulous, because who are you not to be?”
Kids who hear they’re the best tend to believe it and rise to the challenge — particularly black children. A recent study published in the journal Child Development backs me up on this; the study, authored by Ming-Te Wang, assistant professor of psychology in education at the University of Pittsburgh, and Harvard University’s James P. Huguley, found that when parents promote feelings of racial knowledge, pride and connection, black kids do better in school.
Mr. Wang and Mr. Huguley could have saved themselves some time and research cash; those of us black parents in the know would have happily told this to them quickly and for free.
Affirmations chased Mari and my baby girl, Lila, into classrooms in New Jersey and Georgia for years — encouragement I thought important enough to repeat again and again. For the sake of my daughters. For the sake of their psyches and their self-esteem. For their own good.
They wear the armor.
It’s a brilliant coat of self-confidence instilled in them since the womb, not only because I believe them to be clever and beautiful, but because the world conspires to tell my girls different–to ingrain in their brains that something is wrong with their kinky hair and their juicy lips and their dark skin and their piercing brown eyes and their bubble butts and thick thighs and their beautiful brains and their eclectic culture and black girl goodness. I promise you, some days — a lot of days — it feels like I’m guarding them from a tsunami of “you’re ugly/dumb/fat/incompetent/inadequate/insert-your-racial-insult-here” pronouncements; magazines and TV shows and popular radio and movies and all of the rest of pop culture act as if black girls, teens and women do not exist on most days, and on the extra special ones, we are reduced to hypersexualized, drink-tossing, weave-pulling stripper bullies, climbing our way to the top on the backs of rappers and ballers.
Then there’s the micro-aggressions that feel like death by a million cuts: the teachers who assume my girls are below average, until they discover quite the contrary; the store clerks who follow us — even the 10-year-old — around the store, until we pull out the cash at the register; the silly mothers who practice their “hey, girlfriend!” theater around us, until they find out the hard way that we don’t do Ebonics in mixed company.
Don’t believe me? Spend a little time on children’s channels; my daughters can go, literally, for hours without seeing anyone who looks like them. Then flip over to MTV, VH-1, Oxygen and all the other TV homes of “reality” shows (or any show that’s not written and produced by TV “it” girl Shonda Rhimes, an African-American woman), and watch the necks swizzle and the weaves fly. Come with us to the mall on a quiet Tuesday afternoon. Or a school mom gathering.
I can’t have my daughters thinking they are invisible. Or worse, that they’re ignorant, loud caricatures unworthy of respect. So I make a point of encouraging my girls to own their beauty — on the inside and out. And I demand that they pull and stretch and reach for the highest rung, because they’re capable of being more talented, brilliant and confident than any other kid who crosses their paths, black or white — in the classroom, on the soccer field, on the stage, in all that they do.
Examples of black folks who’ve achieved this abound: I surround my daughters with books by and about people of color who’ve shined a light on the beauty and complexity of us — fill their ears with the music of masters who rep us with their talent and lyricism. Television and movies are watched with a critical eye, our complicated history is explored and talked about and picked through — our culture celebrated through food and travel and relationships. They are told “we are an amazing people” loudly and often, not just during Black History Month or Martin Luther King’s birthday, but every day.
And most importantly, my daughters are made to understand and know that 24-hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days of the year, they are expected to bring home the top grades in their classes. No exception. I’m not all Tiger Mom about it, mind you; just a huge cheerleader and a no-nonsense support system who works hard with my girls to make them understand their true potential.
After all, when a child is told that she is fearfully and wonderfully made, who is she not to be fabulous?
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@Matari; Thank you and Dene Millner for this. Maybe if more parents had this kind of affirmations for their girls we wouldn’t have these damn discussions about Why are black women thought as ugly.
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Ms. Mary,
Thank you, but all the credit for this piece belongs to D Millner. This is a great example of why and how we should plant these seeds of affirmations within ALL of our children – girls and boys – beginning in the womb so that they might grow and flourish into individuals that expect and demand nothing but excellence from themselves – and each other..
How else can we break the cycle (meme) of confusion – internalized self-loathing, self-hate, self-doubt?
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Ms. Mary,
Thank you, but all the credit for this piece belongs to D Millner. This is a great example of why and how we should plant these seeds of affirmations within ALL of our children – girls and boys – beginning in the womb so that they might grow and flourish into individuals that expect and demand nothing but excellence and beauty (in all its forms) from themselves – and each other..
How else can we break the cycle (meme) of confusion – internalized self-loathing, self-hate, self-doubt?
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@ Abagond:
Thanks for your “Arab racism against blacks” thread. I’m hoping you’d do a post on Asian racism against blacks in the future. I would like to put in my two cents.
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Abagond,
Lovely picture that you are using…it is so refreshing that people are beginning to display the beauty of Blackness.
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This is all in fun, but the thread about “original names” vs. “boring names” made me think of this Key & Peele skit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gODZzSOelss&feature=player_embedded) 😀
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ROFL
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@ Legion
While I have not finished reading your link on the New Delhi rape, so far it is very interesting. It does bring about a concept in regards to Economic growth as a cause.
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Yes Abagond I agree with phoebeprunelle I appreciate you are showing the beautiful sisters as well.
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Wow, I missed this tragic story about Hurricane Sandy.
Nice folks in Staten Island.
http://axiomamnesia.com/2012/11/02/race-play-role-staten-island-mom-refused-hurricane-killed-sons-video/
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@ peanut
I saw your question and i am trying to think of the best way to respond.
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@ Abagond,
Google sketch of today was Jackie Robinson. Pretty cool homage.
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Fail, that ad. What’s the point of the Volkswagen ad? Cultural appropriation at its best. I think commercial executives should remember this adage, “if you have to ask the question-Is this offensive or not? 9 times out of 10 it probably is- Don’t do it.
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That as is just beyond terrible. I have a feeling a lot of alcohol and controlled idiocy went into that monstrosity.
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*ad.
tehnoun, master typist at work.
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@ King
I had a hard time even looking at the pic with the two boys. That is sick. I don’t believe she tried to break the door without even shouting repeatedly for someone to let her in and this is why I don’t believe the homeowner actually thought she was a man. Even if the person asking for help is male, so what? It’s a life and death situation. He seemed more concerned with not looking like a sack of sh!t on camera.
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Who are they kidding with that Volkswagen ad? Unreal.
Anyway, Happy Black History Month! 🙂
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That volkwagen advertisment is so ridiculous. If you got to ask is it racist, It probably is. Epic major fail on the part of Volkswagen and the geniuses at Madison Avenue. SMH. What a bunch of idiots.
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volkswagen and cocoa cola can remove their dumb ads.volkswagen should have just stuck with darth vader.coca cola did an ad with an arab on a camel and had a poll on their website of who should win the race to the coca cola bottle and they didn’t have the arab as an option.these ads are just dumb and offensive.i’m not jamaican but that ad reminds me of whites trying to sound ‘black’ and making fun of an accent.i bet if people made an ad with americans running around with a german accent and swastika on their clothing they wouldn’t like it too much.i can’t stand people who don’t treat others the way they wish to be treated yet think they are entitled to respect even when they haven’t earned it.
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@ peanut
I don’t agree with the comparison.It seems whites want to compare their struggle to blacks all the time.The white women did it the gays did it and now this.Black men in the military before the U.S. was integrated were sent to war on the front lines,whereas with the women in the military its the opposite they are trying to keep them off the front lines.they are comparing apples to oranges.Black men would fight for a country that didn’t want them and would not be treated as war heroes.The women are being kept from combat whereas the black men were disposable and sent into combat.Everybody wants to be down with the black struggle only when it can be used to gather support for their struggle. Its like look we are struggling like the blacks did so give us support.all i can say is good luck with that because blacks didn’t get the support they deserved back then so don’t expect to get better treatment.
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@ Gen
EPIC FAIL!
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@ Interested Parties:
Though I’m an uneducateded American NegroI currenty go buy the username of FIAMMA BLU; It’s means ‘Blue Flame’ in Italian”.
I’m growing tired of it so you won’t be incumbered of it much longer….Grazie!
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Yeah, that did not work out like I hoped. It rarely does actually.
To clarify: my current username is ‘fiamma blu/.
It means ‘Blue Flame’ in Italian. I’m tired of seeing it mangled so I will be changing it shortly.
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To all the lovely ladies on Abagond:
Does anyone know a make-up line that does NOT contain titanium dioxide? It seems most brands have it. Even though I apply a product sparingly, I get this ashy look, and I really dislike it. Any recommendation would be appreciated. 🙂
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i don’t really care about the superbowl my team didn’t make it[steelers].anyway i just love the commercials lol.
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it ain’t over yet.
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They are are still leading but what a nail biter.
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RAVENS WIN!!!
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@ peanut
lol im happy yall ravens won because the 49 didn’t need to win that would have put them with 6 rings like us steelers and we can’t have that.Enjoy your victory
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My girlfriend proposed to me! 😀
I mean, technically we won’t be legally married (Florida is silly about that), but I’m way too happy to give a crap. Woohoo!
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Congratulations Tehnoun! 🙂
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@tehnoun; Congratulations, I hope you two are very happy in the coming years.
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Are you by chance engaged too?
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I feel like sharing some music right now.
“Kangaroo” by Tic Tac & Batman, a.k.a. the proof that Ghana is the REAL country of the Kangaroo.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbb_sMbrpgo)
And for the ladies, the return of Makmende in “Ha He” by Just A Band :
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mG1vIeETHc)
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@ Bulanik:
Thank you, Bulanik for the suggestions. I checked out both links and I think I’m going to go with the holistic beauty one. I read some of the products are titanium dioxide free. 😀
@ tehnoun:
Congrats to you and your lady love! This is great news! 🙂
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@ tehnoun
Congratulations! I don’t know much about the laws in the US, but is it possible to tie the knot in another state?
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@ peanut
You go girl! 🙂
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Congrats tehnoun on the engagement
and congrats peanut on….gettin some lol.maybe u can write a post about it for us virgins here to give us hope lol
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ty peanut im about to be 19 on the 22nd of this month i do plan on waiting but there are temptations out there.Right now i’m just stressed and mad dealing with my family issues and don’t have time for any of that.
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Peanut u seem like a great person and i hope you do find someone who will treat you like the queen you are.Even some married people aren’t satisfied or have that real love that i hope to have one day even my parents don’t but thats another story.sometimes i just don’t think i will find that.My mom is a great woman but sometimes i feel like my dad lets her down and me down.I don’t want a man like my dad i want a man like my uncle who is kind,patient,and listens.I don’t know how to tell my dad that he wasn’t all that i needed sometimes.I feel so much hurt right now because of what just happened.
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lol peanut u got me blushing.i never did any of those things except masturbation.i know i’m definetly not ready for love or sex because i need to deal with my own issues and emotional baggage from childhood.
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lol well i want all the above in one person someday that would be nice.idc if you go into detail its all natural,im not gonna lie it gives me insight into what to expect
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peanut idk how they never orgasm and it baffles me how some will have sex and not orgasm yet don’t want to try pleasuring themselves or oral because they think its dirty.If i ever have a man and he can’t get me off i’ll put that mouth to work lol or get our the toys
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lol out not our typo
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i wouldn’t know but i’ll take your word for it lol
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peanut i was on your blog and saw that erotica article you did umm was that really about your experience
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yes.I don’t know if it feels better during intercourse than oral because its different.the clitoris has more nerves and some women need their clit stimulated to reach orgasm during intercourse.
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not trying to be too graphic but maybe u should try a dialator or sticking fingers in there to see what its kinda like.I tried once and it hurt a little so i stopped.
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ok peanut
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Seems like an excellent time to post a link to an 80’s fave: “Don’t Disturb This Groove” ~ The System
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7pZZGHLQfw)
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wow a former lapd cop is hunting other cops that he says cost him his job.The story is he was let go for making false statements about his field training officer of brutalizing a mentally disabled man.The mans father said he noticed bruises on his disabled son and said he was kicked.Now the cops are trying to find him and they’ve already shot 2 civilians thinking it was him.smh. black men in LA definitely need to stay indoors because these cops will shoot and ask questions later thinking they all look alike.THe cops in la think all black men look alike while the cops in new york mistake wallets for guns.smh
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Hi,
Can anyone recommend books related to Britain and race, historical or contemporary? Preferably written by people of color. So far I’ve read the autobiographies of Mary Seacole and Olaudah Equiano, both well worth reading. I know I need to learn a lot more about colonialism, and whatever else people recommend.
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another hate crime against a white man that didn’t catch national news….. Just raising awareness. Not trying to cause a fight.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1YWd4lk54I) What makes this important to me is there are plenty of black men dating white women walking freely on any street in America. This man is just walking down the street with his girlfriend. Seems like the national news would be all over this if it was the other way around.
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@ dave
Would it? I know of some crimes the other way around and it is not national news and if it concerns you that much, then blog about it. What it seems like you want is for blacks to sympathize or for us to feel bad for crimes committed by bad people who are black. I didn’t commit the crime and I did not raise the individuals who did, so why is it my problem? If they are guilty then they should be in jail (which is likely where they would be). I assume that is what happens to criminals. Once you realize that skin color does boy dictate criminal behavior, then the better off you will be.
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And before you misconstrue what I am saying. I don’t agree with it and the men responsible should and probably will go to jail, things don’t just not make national news because of the color of the parties involved skin. I will say in some cases, but most of the time they look for things that will give long term ratings. Not so much the “he did it!” “Case closed” type. News is about profit like everyone else.
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Regarding the Christopher Dorner the ex LAPD officer. I believe the L.A. police department is corrupt and this man probably witnessed a lot of corrupt activity in that department. He probably tried to go through the proper channels and was ignored. There are many missing pieces to this puzzle. The media is playing into the black brute sterotype portraying Dorner as the ultimate monster. I don’t trust the media and the distorted way they put out information. It will be interesting how all this pans out. I think Dorner will not allow them to take him alive. Or they will kill him on sight. He is a dead man either way.
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An addendum to my previous thread we all saw how back in the 80’s how corruption of the LAPD was during the Rodney King incident.
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@ marry
Yeah he is a dead man for sure.I can’t believe they haven’t found him yet.Its kinda ironic that he is roaming and is painted as the threat to civilains yet the lapd shot 2 civilians that they thought looked like him .I believe his story as well,its a shame the military and the law enforcement are so corrupt that even if someone does report things they get told to shutup and are the ones who get fired.Basically its like they say its your duty to report but only if its someone who is low ranking and disposable not the higher rank because they are soo important.Its something really wrong when a black man gets fired for reporting corruption but white men just get desk duty for shooting unarmed black men or jokin about killing the first lady.
I saw another story about a black family going to disney land or was it world.Anyway they had pics with the rabbit from alice in wonderland and he didn’t hug or touch their kids,but a white family came and took pics with him and he was hugging them and putting them on his lap.I’m glad the black family refused those extra tickets and instead want an apology and that person fired.
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@mstoogood4yal: I hear you. The Disneyland incident was crazy too. Disneyland and a mofo in a rabbit costume this is how this idiot makes his/her living and they are being racist that is so pathetic to me.
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At Mary, He probably went through the proper channels and got harassed like hell. LAPD not fun at all. It is the only place a cop dared me to go to the police station to report him. Which I did, which they said I didn’t have evidence and then I pulled out my recorder and played the whole thing for them. They had the nerve to ask for the recorder I told them they’d get the recorder but it was only a copy and I took out my other recorder with missing tape then they filed the report. I’ll never trust them as far as a baby can throw. They think people were born yesterday and he is a dead man. He just counting down the time till they shoot him shoot him with a pat, pat, wink, wink.
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@mstoogood4yall: That little 6 year old boy and his brother got their first taste of racism. I’m not surprised by this. Walt Disney was racist.
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@Legion, thanks, I’ll have a look at those.
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Abagond: I would like to make a suggestion. I was introduced to Damali Ayo. And now I’m a fan. Now i would like to see a post on Nancy Gilies she is one of my favorite commentators.
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I will not forgive Dorner for killing the daughter and her fiancé of the lawyer who represented him at his LAPD hearing. When he did that he WAS in fact, being a brute.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/02/04/Fullerton-Women-s-Asst-Basketball-Coach-Shot-to-Death
I suspect that LAPD did was up to their usual crap, but I simply cannot let pass the murder of two young people who had nothing to do with it.
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I don’t condone him killing inocent people.But something happened and he snapped. I think he has dirt on some people there.
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Well, if you want proof of how LAPD rolls, a protective detail was guarding the house of a Cop that they thought Dorner might be after. So the paper delivery truck pulls up to toss the newspapers on the front porch and are shot without warning!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/cops-opened-fire-on-mother-daughter-during-dorner-manhunt.html
It turns out to be some poor hispanic lady and her 71 year old mother. Of course, the truck is riddled with bullet holes. So it wasn’t the same model of truck, it wasn’t the same color, and it had two small Latina women in it rather than a Large Black man. This gives you an idea what really goes on with LAPD. If this had been a black teenager on an average night they would have said that he tried to run them over and then run away, so they had to shoot him. The whole thing would have been played out to the benefit of the officers and to the detriment of the victim.
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“Charmonium@
Hi, Can anyone recommend books related to Britain and race, historical or contemporary?”
One contemporary writer that I always liked was Caryl Phillips – he’s a tad bit cynical but still touches the heart of the matter when it comes to Britian, Europe and race.
Two books I’ve read: “The European Tribe” and “Foreigners”
He has other books that you may find interesting
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@sharina… I’m not looking for sympathy… just balance. If people wanna jump on the activist civil rights band wagon when the perp is white and the victim is black…. then if you want credibility from me then you should be just as outraged on the other way around scenario . I realize that 99.999999% of decent blacks wouldn’t do something like that. But I just want the people on here to realize when a white hatemonger acts up that 99% of whites wouldn’t do that either. In fact I’m a business owner and my black clients are cooler on average then the white ones. … and that’s coming from a white man’s point of view.
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@ dave
I cant speak for everyone and I am just guessing, but blacks have shared outrage with whites on almost every tragedy that has made news, but if it was vise versa…..only a few whites care to sympathize. Some blacks are just tired of caring for that very reason. There is balance but you often time go out of your way to look for black on white crime. With the “look see” attitude and often ignore the vise versa. Stop trying to look at crime in skin color. A criminal is a criminal.
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新年快樂! Happy lunar new year to all who celebrate it. 🙂
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fair enough sharina. I hear ya.
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Argh, looking for African American Lullabies for my Son. So far only Brown Baby sung By Diana Ross, and Odetta singing all the Pretty Little Horses. My Mom was absolutely no help. Does anyone have any suggestion? I even tried looking it up on the internet but the results were so sparse I had to check I didn’t make a spelling error. Maybe African American Lullabies isn’t the right phrasing for the search.
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@ King of Trouble: No luck, I saw the same thing you did. I think that is all you will find. Sorry.
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Hey King 0f Trouble, there are some here, but I don’t know if they’re the kind of thing that you’re looking for.
http://mamalisa.com/?t=ec&p=2150&c=187
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@ peanut
I read the story and the family had pics of their kids and the rabbit and they showed pics of white kids on the rabbits lap and huggin him,they said those pics were taken after their kids.
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@ peanut
I never went to disneyland or world.Idc. shoot if that was me i wouldn’t care about that rabbit from alice. Who the hell goes to disney and wants to see an old dusty white rabbit anyway,he should have been grateful for someone even wanting to take pics with him.Most ppl go to see the princesses and mickey mouse.Me personally , i would have been chillin with princess Tianna.I would’ve been asking princess tiana what it is like to be the first black princess and if i can join her.Then i’d ask her if prince naveen and her are still together,if not then i’d be like can i have him.
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@King of Trouble:
I also like Miss Lou’s Jamaican poems too!
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@ King, thank you so much my son gets all the Japanese part of lullabies and we have done mother goose, and the rest of those CD’s are disney. I want my boy to also have his other heritage and be comfortable. I remembered as a child I didn’t know a single lullaby made by blacks except Brown Baby. This will certainly help he’s only 6 but there is no time like the present to let him explore his culture. Besides if I hear another version of rock-a-by baby…
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@ Mary, I just assumed that there a lot we’ve been around for a while and we have famous black singers who have children. I thought I could find at least one cd that focus on that. A while back I say on the internet a book of Hush Songs but you can’t get it here in Japan. So looks as if I am going to have to get some friends together find the songs and do some recording.
Which means I am going to have to find some black artist that are up for it. I have abandoned most of my musical contacts when I came to Japan because I felt the industry was so slimy. I like the muscians I do not like the record companies. However, I will get over my dislike for my son. We’ve done the Disney songs but disney keeps doing things like this. I don’t want my Prince to enter the hostile Kingdom.
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@ Charmonium
I wish I knew some good books to recommend to you as I have actually been wanting to find some myself. However, what I want to research right now would focus on the colonisation of Hong Kong and the daily lives and experiences of the people living there at the time and of the early Chinese immigrants to the UK (e.g. The sailors who married British women, had children and then were ordered back to Hong Kong without their families being told anything). Through my own searching, the vast majority of books on the topic of race are from the US. If they are from the UK, it often focuses on the perspective of South Asians or Black people. It can be tough to find something about a group that is all too often a `forgotten minority’.
I also tried searching the databases of all libraries in my home county and none of them have anything on the topics I wish to learn about…
Don’t suppose anyone knows of any good books?
@ Linda
This looks like fiction, but sounds interesting. Would you say he is a good writer?
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@ King of Trouble: Maybe Vanishing Point’s suggestion will help you. If nothing else you can read the beautiful words of Langston Hughes. I’m into Langston Hughes this month. I am reading his book of short stories The Ways of White Folks and The Best of Simple stories. I bet Japan is cool. Are you in Tokyo?
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King of Trouble, Emmylou Harris’ “Didn’t Leave Nobody But the Baby” was supposed to have been adapted (rewritten) based on lyrics from an old Black lullaby… I guess it depends on how you look at it whether this would qualify.
Here is the altered version of the lyrics:
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Your momma’s gone away and your daddy’s gonna stay
Didn’t leave nobody, but the baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Everybody’s gone in the cotton and the corn
Didn’t leave nobody, but the baby
You’re a sweet little baby (you’re a sweet little baby)
You’re a sweet little baby (you’re a sweet little baby)
Honey and the rock and the sugar don’t stop
Gonna bring a bottle to the baby
Don’t you weep pretty baby (don’t you weep pretty baby)
Don’t you weep pretty baby (don’t you weep pretty baby)
She’s long gone with her red shoes on
Gonna need another lovin’ baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
You and me and the devil makes three
Don’t need no other lovin’ baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Come and lay your bones on the alabaster stones and be my ever lovin’ baby
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I remember that from O Brother Where Art Thou. That’s a good song. I think it’s from a black slave song. I think I read that somewhere. Anyway I like that song.
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I would like to thank everybody, I will work on it. I have a steel pan band that is interested in recording something. I also have an orchestra that feel they are up for children’s tunes. I hoping my singer friend from Trindad and Tabago will join. Will see if I can push a CD through or at least a personal one through. Anyway I will be heading back to the states soon and hopefully there I will be able to gather more things together. I wanted to get “Wade in the Water” but my wife says it is too loud to calm him so I guess I will have to find a composer and get it hushed a little. Anyway I need to find the right people to get it together I think even those songs that little black girls use to jump rope and do hand rythms are great. So I guess I will have to find an african american children’s choir and try to get it recorded. There is always a lot of work but hey it is well worth it to see a smile on my boy’s face.
@King thank you I can work with the song.
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The Pope has resigned, and his most likely successor is a black African man, Cardinal Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson from Ghana. I would love to read JA’s thoughts on this matter! Personally, I think it would make sense to have a pope from one of the world regions where the Catholic Church is really thriving right now, as it is in Africa (or so I hear). Europe is not even that religious anymore, at least as I understand it.
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@King of Trouble,
My kiddos enjoy this one, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzywl8FXXQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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@Vagabond:
If a black man wins the pope-ship, there will be a mass exodus of whites to Protestantism.
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@ Vagabond
Demographically it should go to a Latin American – but he can be black too! Like with the Secretary General of the UN or the Olympics, it should rotate.
The cardinals vote for pope. Not sure how demographically well proportioned they are. Based on past popes, Europe, and Italy in particular, seem to have an oversupply.
As far as I know Europe still has more Catholics than Africa but, like with whites in the U.S., that will not last for much longer.
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They have the lapd ex cop surrounded in a cabin.This is not going to end well.Another officer just died from the gunfight they had.
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The young earl grey tumblr. is just too adorable. I saw that somewhere else it just stole my heart. I loved Micheal so much and I was equally sad about Whitney. Thanks Abagond.
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@Lifelearner, you put a smile on my boys face thank you.
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Actually, I thought ‘Kiwiitos” was a different commenter altogether, albeit one who liked your username and then decided to use a variant of it….It’s not at all unusual. I’ve seen several glaring occurrences of this phenomenon on this blog since I’ve started following it. It’s even happened to me once in the 17 years I’ve been cruising cyberspace, even though I’ve always had the habit of choosing somewhat obscure /non-Anglophone usernames.
I suspect that some people intentionally use a variant of established usernames, while others do so unconsciously.
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@Linda and Iris,
Thanks for the replies. I’ll check out Caryl Phillips.
I only heard about this a year ago, from George Alagiah’s Mixed Britannia Documentary. It’s such a horrible story. There’s an interview with the daughter of one of the couples in this episode; the section starts at 14.47.
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@King of Trouble
No problem. 🙂 It’s nice to know other parents are trying to instill a LOVE for our culture at an early age. We are doing our best as well. Here’s a great resource too for AA authors/subject matter for young readers –> http://thebrownbookshelf.com/
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@peanut lol
i’m single for valentines day too.Even if i wasn’t i think i’d still hate it.I’d rather be appreciated everyday than just for one day.I went to the store with my mom and got some junk food so i’mma eat my self to sleep lol.Anyway i hope abagond is having a good valentines night. *wink* *wink*
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i would love to hear what everyone else’s valentines is like.I just love a good love story lol.tell me what ur significant other did for you today
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@peanut and my fellow singles on v day
here some ideas to get through this lonely day
1 get drunk
2 hang out with friend who tells u they don’t need a man
3 buy yourself a gift
4 or to surprise yourself buy a gift while tipsy and hide it
5 sober up and try to find where your drunk arse hid the gift
6 just cruise around on the blogs and thirst at pics of celebritity crushes
for yall info i’ve done number 6 and 3 because im not old enough to do 1 and 4. enjoy.
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Valentine’s day was mostly just eating an expensive dinner (partially paid for by a friend of mine because she’s a sweetheart <3) and coming home to find one of my roommates has filled the apartment with about a million flowers in order to impress his girlfriend. Going to be irritating to clean, but at least it smells nice.
I don't plan on talking about what happened next because my sex life is private, thank you very much. 😉
(I really hope this doesn't sound as egotistical as I think it does)
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omg i don;t know how to post a clickable link forgive me for the double post
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96LOLbCzb50)
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@ Charmonium
Thank you for the tip. I think this may have been where I first heard of it, too. It’s such a shame I cannot find more information. I have only found one book on Amazon.
@ mstoogood4yall
I’m married and we rarely do anything on Valentine’s day. Why should showing our love and appreciation for one another be celebrated then? Why not, for example, the anniversary of the day we met? Then it is unique and special in its own way.
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Yep ditto-what Iris mentioned about V-day. It’s a joke. The hubster and I have our own special day to celebrate “our love.” We often say Valentine’s day is for the amateurs of love. 😉 We do celebrate it with our loved ones (i.e family/friends)
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I’m sure a movie on Lifetime movie channel will be made on Christopher Dorner. L.L.Cool J. would be perfect in the role.
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Did anyone else see this feature on the Hymn Lining tradition?
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Would help if I included the link, eh?
http://screen.yahoo.com/hymn-lining-disappearing-african-american-182216113.html
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@ KIng: No I didn’t see this. Thanks for this. So that’s what those elderly people would be doing in church at the opening song. Hymn Lining. I can see where it would have it’s roots in slavery. I guess it’s like call and response. So many things in music have their roots in black spirituality. So much of our history is disapperaring. It goes with Black History month. We need to study our history everyday.
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valentines day sucks everyone.
Not to me it doesn’t! I am looking forward to the sales on chocolate!
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@herneith
amen i love me some snickers,twix,and babyruth but the stores mostly have reeses on sale lol
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Iris@ Linda: This looks like fiction, but sounds interesting. Would you say he is a good writer?
Linda says,
I guess so. I read his first book, “European Tribes” back in the 80’s — which was an autobiography of his travels. Even thought I liked it, I thought he was a little too pessimistic.
His more current books are fiction, mixed in with true events—I think his writing style has gotten better – still a cynic but he is able to bring together all the little nuances of living in the “Mother country”.
@ Charmonium
You’re welcome. Enjoy the read and good luck finding other authors.
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Lol! I couldn’t help myself.
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BREAKING NEWS!
Mississippi has ratified the 13th Amendment outlawing slavery:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mississippi-ratifies-slavery-ban-after-lincoln
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Damn, looks like I’m going to have to sell my tobacco plantation! 😦
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Mississippi sold out? NOW what are all those crazy redneck militiamen going to do? They can’t possibly stage a coup on the government without the infinite wealth provided by Mississippi’s… er… whatever it produces!
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SomeGuy, Welcome Back ! 🙂
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Thank you. 🙂
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@Abagond:
Are they insane? that’s absurd, really, it sounds like something out of a satirical magazine.
@SomeGuy:
How are you doing dear?
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I feel like granulated dog feces, but still alive and kicking.
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By the way, has anyone ever taken one of those “ethnicity” DNA tests?
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SomeGuy,
I took the Genographics 2 autosomal DNA test. Sent it off in October and got the results online (3 months later) in January. The company 23andMe claims to give faster and more thorough results, including health-related genetic info.
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Until further notice the price of the 23andMe “spit kit”, excluding S&H, is only $99. As a heads up, it is illegal to mail the kit from NY though, due to restrictions from the NY Department of Health.
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@ Fiamma
So far, I have taken the AncestryDNA test and thought about doing the 23andme one. I’ve gotten some surprising results and a second opinion with another company would be great.
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I’m dumping my off-topic post here. I just want to thank Abagond and all of you on the site. I have learnt so much from this blog. It is such a treasure trove of information, and the views here have helped me widen mine. Thank you all so much!
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Random topic for future posts:
Why is it that we are told the human race is equally violent and racist but at the same time unequally intelligent or attractive?
Why do people use interracial relationships to prove the superior attractiveness of one group yet ignore the fact that both parties are mutually attracted to each other. Doesn’t that negate the superiority of either party?
How is it that a group of people who are supposedly more intelligent than everyone else could not foresee the cultural effect of colonization on their society?
How do you explain the existence of a multiethnic nation with a strong economy that is not governed by Europeans?
Also how do you explain the fact that there has yet to be any ethnic conflict in this country despite the different groups that live there?
Just suggestions.
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i don’t know we need to have factories and shit in like reading and philly thats is all im about also who i am i have this thing for job opportunities for the un-hireable
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@ Legion
I read that article. Great find, It’s very telling, but only from the aspect that it was recorded “statistical” information presented for reflection and debate by everyone. Still, glad it’s out there.
“To say “invisible” makes it seem that the black women are marginalizing themselves and takes focus off of who is really doing the marginalizing and agenda setting.”
~I agree. But it doesn’t take away from the subconscious assimilation of our historical depiction. (the nappy head, dark skin, big lipped, wide nosed, loud, troublesome female)
It’s really damning for us, especially when we try to be upwardly mobile. And even to be seen by the white media, you have to be vetted, non threatening and definitely not too “ethnic”looking. I’m sure we have heard and seen that term before…
Unfortunately, I see the absence of black women all the time currently in the media having meaningful, loving relationships, in places of authority, making important decisions, running nuclear households, her absence as desirable for a mate or even the attraction of sex…
And the “dark-skinned” woman?
Palleeaaasseeee…
I am actually battling this “invisibility” complex at my job. No matter my years of experience, impeccable performance history, vast knowledge base, trust among my peers and even the leadership qualities I have been told by others to exhibit..
I am no more than the “worker bee” who should be “happy and grateful” to be working at all…utilized overwhelmingly for my qualities until it’s time to promote somebody. I know I’m not the first and won’t be the last…
Then their eyes just start blinking, words become stuttered and they will look anywhere else for a leader than to the the capable black professionals they work with everyday. White authority (at my workplace) typically have no interest in developing black professionals, they will just hire nice, vanilla, barely competent ones or an ‘acceptable’ minority (that would be a great post abagond–especially in the workplace) to be typically accepting and non argumentative while promoting workplace hierarchy.
Well, a house Negro, I am not. And as far as my issue of “invisibility”… I’m up for the challenge.
SK
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eh yeah we wore our shorts in the 40 degree fairenheit weather in upstate ny miss teresa asked me today you have no jacket on you must be high as hell i said no white people we have different temperature sensors?
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that is all
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@ Peanut
Sunday is best.
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Exactly one year ago today, my mom passed away from cancer. Many of you have read my postings of the times I was taking care of my mom, and I just wanted to post a tribute to my mom for this one year anniversary. I found this poem I’d like to share with you all. It’s called “A Daughter’s Promise” by Allie B. Quaglieri.
A Daughter’s Promise
Every time that I smile,
Every time that I sigh,
I think of your face,
And a tear escapes my eye.
You were my world,
My inspiration and my heart,
But when you left me,
I thought I would fall apart.
You were my best friend,
My one true ‘confidante’,
And that’s not all you were,
You were also my mom.
I didn’t want to live without you,
But you would have wanted me to,
And if there’s anyone I want to make happy,
That anyone is you
I would have given anything to have you back,
But I know now that it was meant to be,
For you are still watching from up there,
And I know you’re watching me.
I’ll make you proud mom,
I’m going to fulfill your wish,
You’re going to see me and smile,
That’s a daughter’s promise.
Dear Mom,
Not a day goes by that I don’t think about you. No matter what I do in my life, you will always be in my heart. Gone, but not forgotten. I love you and miss you dearly, mom.. ❤ ❤ ❤
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@ leigh
I’m sure your mom is watching over you and smiling at the beautiful,smart and,confident daughter she raised.
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That’s a beautiful poem, Leigh!
: ))
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@Legion I really appreciate what you have been sharing with me. I value your viewpoints and opinions.
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leigh 204: Lovely sentiments. I’m sure your mom is proud of you.
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@ leigh
Through the the things that you shared, we remember her with you. A lovely poem for a lovely Mom. I’m sure you know that your Abagond family supports you 🙂
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@Thomas Conlon
I’ve seen white men walking around in below freezing temperatures while bundled up on top, but wearing only shorts and sandals on bottom. I’ve never been able to wrap my mind around that phenomenon….
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@Leigh – a lovely poem *the mother-daughter bond is truly a special connection* thanks for sharing! I’m sure your mother is quite proud of you. 🙂
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@ Bulanik
Thus spoke Gertrude the Queen to Hamlet upon the death of his father:
We who are grieving the passing of our parents have to stick together 🙂
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Haha!! Legion you are well worth listening to.
Let’s hear no more nonsense about you going on comment hiatus!
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@ Peanut
Haha. I am not going there!
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you know being a interracial person it means hearing it from your family the other ones family everyone you know dont be hatin
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@fiamma cross country running is a fall sport
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no but mmy frosh year at st bonnies it snowed from september to april it was warm? declarative interrogative its called in california
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🙂
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all due respect
sorry abagond the commies and socialists is more like phenotypically neutral even muslim jawns x post soonest
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Haha!!
Well, as you can see, I have no such quibbles about my own self importance!
Serendipity or something else… 🙂
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Abagond, did you see any of the Rand Paul 12 hour filibuster in the Senate on 3/06/13?
If so I’m curious of your opinion. Maybe a post on it? The absolute support of Obama by democrats and the media has really made me worried lately. It’s funny how they roll people out there on MSNBC and no one seems to have any alternative view point. I know there are alot of black people who have been critical of Obama, but they disappeared during the election. I’ve said this before but there were some districts in philly where Romney received zero votes, not 0% but a count of zero.
I feel like he’s a president who wants no due process and wants to be able to push any agenda he wants.
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@ Dave
Obama is off the chain. MSNBC has ceased practising journalism. They need to hire someone to design cheerleader outfits.
I did not see the filibuster and do not plan to post on it. But I will do a post on MSNBC.
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@ Dave
I agree. There is little serious, reasoned critique of Obama in the mainstream media and that is bad for everyone, except maybe the rich.
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@Legion
I think your response to my topic suggestions is referring to the wrong country. Try somewhere smaller and further south where the population takes pride in their liberty.
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@ All
I’m in the middle of a really interesting book, called ” How To Be Black” By Baratunde Thurston. Two thumbs up thus far…maybe Abagond if you read it..might do a post on it.
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hi test post ima blackout drunk have me own blog now too irrirl.wordpress.com
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@Peanut: Yes I saw that. It was horrendous. He had some sorry excuse for his messed up behavior. He is a major turdpile for sure. I don’t think anything was done about that incident.
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My but pugs are CUTE DOGS!!!
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uuqXXT7VYo)
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Ricky Smiley show — “things Jermaine Jackson needs on tour for his hair” — funny, it had me in tears!
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Racism = Insanity
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/11/irate-man-shouts-racist-obscenities-strips-naked-on-6-train/?src=listicle
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King,
Increasing unemployment, homelessness, cost of living (rent/food/energy/etc), segregated communities, growing inflation, higher taxes, racial animus plus a feeling of general hopelessness is steadily creeping into the cauldron that is the Big (rotten) Apple!
Word to the wise. Get out of NYC!
Life in NYC = INSANITY
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@peanut no i’m a white dude, now i’m single but i date outside my race hence inter-
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i only date black women pretty much that’s how i got here, pretty much looking for some answers and did i get a lot!
Ima do a piece on the philly magazine ‘being white in philly’ –it’s atrocious — and i want to do one on white stereotypes but like funny, kind of, surfer, golfer, like that, eh a lot of the new blog is also since processing what was ultimately summed up by me to not be self-hate but cultural competence after a lot of drunken facebooking, crying, blah blah, you guys really helped me learn a lot here and i wish to expand in my own direction yet still maintain friendly relations if that makes any sense at all.
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just sayin
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it also concides with me being not able to get better from my addiction be being ‘private’ and crap and oh well it’s just all public on fb and you know whatever a 5th step, i give up, i need to write, it is something i did for a lot of my life but was blocked for so long
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I just came home from a delicious meal consisting of salmon sashimi, salmon and tuna maki(plain and spicy) complimented by miso soup with pickles and wasabi. Jealous?
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and sorry about switchin avatars now logged in to wordpress because i’m still need a little motivational something or other to write it will not cross authenticate with my facebook thingie so i dont know how to fix that (yet)
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eh ima let it go at this a long ways back on here i been said i was finding my voice, thats done now i just need to remain reasonable sane and sober and let it flow, through appropriate channels
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and thanks.
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@ Matari
Hmm.. I see what you mean!
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@ Abagond
I think you really need to revise your policy of simply deleting comments without explanation or warning. It simply sows and breeds feeling of animosity.
And it is certainly not an open and democratic way to administer a public forum. It may be your blog but showing simple courtesy to frequent commentators should never be beneath you.
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@ Kwamla
Thank you.
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Your are welcome Abagond!
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facebook has been just deleting stuff for years
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Abagond, please give us some insight about Detroit. I think there was a bit of OT discussion of it on one of the threads, but I’d love to get your perspective on what’s happening there and how it got to be that way.
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i’m mostly irish that’s what i identify with and scottish and british and italian and some other who knows man
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@legion you never lived in a homeless shelter?
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Does anyone have any opinions, good or bad or mixed, about Iris Chang? She is best known for writing “The Rape of Nanking” (1997).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_Chang
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@ Abagond here is a subject that living in Japan it is blacklisted to talk about. I would love to talk about it though.
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@ King of trouble
What do you mean blacklisted? They teach it at school, right?
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@ Abagond and King of trouble
I would be interested in hearing more about this.
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Does anyone have any opinions, good or bad or mixed, about Iris Chang? She is best known for writing “The Rape of Nanking” (1997).
Apparently she committed suicide leaving behind a daughter and husband. Some say she committed suicide because of depression. Anyhow I understand why the Rape of Nangking wouldn’t be taught in Japanese schools. Hundreds of thousands of Chinese were slaughtered by the Japanese in Nanking. For some truly stomach turning situations, go to some historical sites dealing with Nanking and the Japanese occupation in China during WWII. They were equally vicious with the Korean comfort women.
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She was battleling bipolar disorder maybe that is what caused her demise. She was leading a charmed life otherwise.
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This is all very cloak and dagger to me. It appears that Iris Chang removed the band aid from the sore and started the pus and drainage, that the Japanese government wanted forgotten. Maybe the government had something to do with her demise. She described in graphic detail the horrors of this event. Maybe they didn’t appreciate her writing this book. And as did her in as payback. This is all speculation on my part. I can see why the Japanese government wouldn’t want this taught in schools. They are probably ashamed of this horrific incident and want it forgotten.
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* As payback did her in* Forgive typos.
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@ Legion I read that as well; That is horrific. I wonder what is going on over in that part of the world were the sexual assault of women tourist is happening quite frequently?
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We lost one of the great black Brazilian song interpreters, Emilio Santiago
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebw3U_gWPAI)
RIP Emilio
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Yeah, Peanut, Emilio is a galan, isnt he? What class..(ha belated happy bday Abagond)
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^ I am also very curious about this focus on Iris Chang.
BTW, I met her in person in 1998. My Aunt was president of the OCAW (Organization of Chinese American Women) at the time and they honoured her with their outstanding woman of the year award. She gave a speech (about why she did the book), did a booksigning and I also spoke briefly with her.
Anyhow, I heard about all the ruckus in China after that book came out – about how Japan has “whitewashed” the whole thing.
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Rest in Peace, Chinua Achebe.
I will never forget Things Fall Apart as a very necessary step in my intellectual journey in my thinking about race.
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This might be of interest to the ones interested in American Black (rather than US-Black) History
http://ancestors-unknown.org/
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“Let’s face it, BR.
I simply get under you internet skin because you consider me anti-American and cannot beat me down, and want to badly. Maybe you don’t like encountering females on line who read books, and can’t get personal info about to bash them with. LMAO.
Abagond lets you get away with so much I could not.”
hahhahahahahaha this is a hilarious joke, right? I mean , when we do clash, its because you have made some weak arguments that beg to be smacked down, I have proven many statements you have made on here to be catagoricly false..Abagond just deleted my comments also…grow up,really
Abagond, you ought to make the “B. R. versus Bulanik” thread, like the broken record thread…it will be the most popular of all
Or maybe just start the “African drumming” thread….
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And your take on calling me “stalker” is ridiculous, you play the game of telling me not to talk to you, yet , did your little digs in your posts at my postions, i didnt address you, I anwered your digs in a round about way
YOur position above about how our interaction is going down is absolutly hilarious
what really is happening is that you are so eager to show the blog how you can bag a “white American male”, that you keep breaking your face on the wall because it just doesnt stick
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my two statements are direceted at Bulanik
yeah, Abagond, the “B. R. versus Bulanik broken record” thread….there is an idea whose time has come
or the “African drumming” thread , now there are some ideas that are really incredibly special and blatently big and important
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” It is wrong when commenter B.R. does it by emphatically claiming that Che Guevara was a racist, in order to get people on this blog to ignore Socialism or the details of Castro and Guavara’s politics and revolt and against American power.”
Legion, you cant be serious about this, I mean, I have brought in some serious information totaly incriminating the social health progams in Cuba,and, I have seen Castro rail about the prostitutes under Batista, but, I just read an article on the prostitution and child prostitution with gringos in Cuba right now…
I am questioning directly , the pristine noble characterisations of their health programs, and, I definitly am questioning directly their Marxist politics . I dont have anything against Socialism that doesnt feel it has to blab dribble about American Imperialism , you can beleive Castro and Fidel were practicing Imperialism as well.I am so happy the Che call for a thousand Viet Nams in South America didnt happen. You know, the people hated the military dictatorships, but, even more, they didnt want a Marxist revolution, they didnt support it at all.
I also dont have anything against rejecting American hedgomy in the Ameicas, but, not under some Marxist ideology…Are you going to try to tell me Fidel and Che werent Marxists? Or is everything ok with you as long as they bash the USA
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So, I want you to get it real clear that, I am not against Socialism, I am not against rejecting American hedgomy in the Americas, as a matter of fact, I say dont trust Americans, make them have to earn it, but, I wouldnt bend over in the shower just because the USA isnt in there…I reccomend dont trust anyone
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@ Legion
I LOVE that book!
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@ Mbeti
Followed over from the Melanin thread.
Well, I think it depends on what you mean. If you believe that someone is attacking you with their religion, then that’s one thing. But if someone simply holds a belief, I’m not sure why it would have to be dealt with. I’m not saying that one should never ask questions, or point out inconsistencies, but as a general rule, trying to change someone’s religious beliefs is not likely to be achieved with an argument on the internet. Don’t you agree?
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That would be difficult to determine while sitting on one continent on planet of 8 in a solar system that revolves around a star that is one out of 300 billion stars in the this galaxy, which itself is one out of a trillion galaxies in the observable Universe. Exactly how would you know if things were the same everywhere or not?
Science is very helpful and quite needful in our understanding of reality, but it is not all that there is. Certainly some room must be left for things that seem to defy scientific appraisal.
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OHTEllmS0s&feature=em-share_video_user)
An open air pedestian maul gig where I produced a music dance festival with great examples of : samba, breaking, tortinho, locking, candomble , popping and Wayne Shorter songs…Im not playing a full drum kit, but, the Brazilian percusionist is wicked
This is multi culturalism and Afro diasporic grooves and dances on display
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I think this is too cool 🙂
http://www.naturalgirlsunited.com/natural-hair-dolls.html
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^^ Me too.
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^ Nice header
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i love the first doll on the second row.
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@ Bulanik
Partial payment for that African belly dancer girl you got me hooked on!
@ mstoogood4yall
She is fierce 🙂 I must say
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Diggin’ the new masthead Abagond. The doll in the top row 3rd from the left is best representation of my natural hair. Loving it! 😀
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Happy Easter, for those who celebrate it.
If you don’t… well, chocolate! 😛
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Happy Easter!! To all commenters, trolls and lurkers!
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Happy Easter to everyone.
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I just love the dolls.
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Folks, I am going to have the initial start of my Human Rights complaint on Tuesday. It is to set dates for a hearing. Wish me luck!!!
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@ Herneith Best of luck to you. I hope things go in your dfavor.
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Good luck Herneith!
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Thank you, Bulanik, Mary and King!
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i hope you win, Herneath , great you are fighting for your rites
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Agabond, are you going to write something about the recent shootings in Texas and Colorado?
http://wonkette.com/509700/slow-news-day-except-for-those-seemingly-coordinated-nazi-attacks-on-public-officials?onswipe_redirect=no#idc-cover
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@ Henrieth
Hope the hearing goes in your favor and there is a huge $$$ settlement for you! 😀
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Folks, my case is going to a full hearing. The procedure chosen is to my advantage. But then again, they do not have much of a leg to stand on!
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@ Herneith; I am praying that everything goes in your favor. And that you get justice.
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Thank you Mary!
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@Abagond & everyone else
Have you all seen this British documentary before?
(http://youtu.be/s7EwXmxpExw)
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@Bulanik
AH yes! But it was hard reading that thread since all the videos kept making my browser lag 😦
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Good documentary.
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Four girls are fighting to end a racially segregated prom system in their hometown:
http://www.wsav.com/story/21866654/macon-students-fight-segregated-prom
A black girl was elected prom queen by the student body, but could not attend the whites-only prom.
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Oops, I meant she won for homecoming and couldn’t attend the same one as the king. Still ridiculous.
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Hang in there, Peanut, wait for the right guy…you deserve it…
there are lots of ways to enjoy your sexuality and not have to have direct intercourse with a man
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@ Peanut
If you’re really anxious to have sex, then that is very likely to get in the way of your whole “connection with a man thing.”
It’s kind of like going to the pound to pick out a dog that really seems to like you, but you’ve got a t-bone steak hanging around your neck. Strangely enough, ALL the dogs seem to like you!!!
If you want to connect with a man you’d better do it BEFORE the sex card is out, because it’s going to be hard to determine exactly what he’s connected to after that.
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I read this and I thought wow, I can’t believe this is real, then I read it again and thought how is this possible.
http://news.msn.com/us/georgia-high-school-students-unite-to-fight-segregated-prom
Have I missed read this or is it because parents pay for it. I really didn’t think you could have segregated proms or the likes of it.
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oops Vagabond beat me to it.
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yet another test post
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the takeaway from doin cable tv in nj for 2 years is how many americans able to afford private housing dont have one book in their house
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v8driver, I know what you mean as a teacher I visited a lot of my students homes and many of them didn’t have any books but the tv was like an altar. Before I left I brought all 180 of my books to the school and told my students to take them. A lot did but many couldn’t see where the books had value. You can’t eat it, hard to sell it, and maybe they could read it one time maybe not was the answer I got. High School is too old to install a love of reading you have to get them in kindergarden and grade school.
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On another note, another teacher gets in trouble trying to make students imagine they are on the dark side of history. Instead of slaver driver they were asked to be a good little Nazi
http://news.msn.com/us/ny-high-school-writing-assignment-explain-why-jews-are-evil
I am shaking my ruler on how this teacher didn’t know something like this would get him in trouble. I wonder if it was poor communication skills or just plain ignorance?
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@King of Trouble
I couldn’t believe the segregated prom thing either. Also, have you heard about this new song “Accidental Racist” (http://ideas.time.com/2013/04/11/viewpoint-you-cant-be-an-accidental-racist/), where slave shackles are equated with jewelry? Since I started reading this blog I have started to notice racism all over the place.
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@Legion:
Thanks Legion! My case is coming along, I will say they are f88ked and know it! All signs are good! Fight the power is all I can say. The more the merrier. Educate yourself as to how white supremacy works, there are academic disciplines and legal aspects such as critical race theory. Document anything which you feel may not be right(it probably isn’t). Email the clowns if you have any concerns(they hate putting things on paper!). Try not to depend on witnesses if possible. Many will ‘secretly’ support you but when it comes time to testify, will conveniently ‘forget’. Try to depend on documents ie, the systems, policies and procedure, that is where I got them! Anyhow don’t obsess on it but at the same time do not let these turds walk over you. I could go on ad nauseum but I won’t. I prefer hilarity and absurdities. Laughing at these fools is also a great boon! I will say that this has caused me to divert myself away from things I wish to do as it takes work. I had no assistance nor support except for a couple of people when I initialize my complaint yet I persevered. A higher being was definitely looking out for me! Take care!
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oh man i need to go to a alcoholics anonymous meeting there is only one around here and its like 25 blocks away i’m not supposed to smoke cigarettes either the doctors told me
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there’s this old new jersey saying, “yeah, right?” … it can mean anything based on tone and inflection too
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Lol. I’ve certainly used “yeah, right!” in my time. Didn’t know it came out of Jesrsey. I’ve typically used it when I was faced with some thing or something someone said which I personally perceived as being false.
The phrase “I know… right!?” seems to be used in a different way than “yeah, right!”
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Bangladeshi man beaten for looking Arab after Boston bombing:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/bronx/bx_idiots_beat_up_arab_in_revenge_76qKozmZwDUpLUbacqqP3O
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He must be breathing and earning a paycheque. He must be willing to hand it over on pay day. He must be willing to be in a woman led relationship!
What attracts women to men?
Triple Ds’!
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test post again eh i snapped
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Herneith, Was wondering how things were going with your case?
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Herneith I didn’t see the above comments but am still lifting you up in prayer.
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“sorry” aint really my style, but i apologize, as you know i’m not supposed to use alcohol for any reason whatsover but i do, and then i get on the internet well i guess its better than running around getting in fights. its not easy finding anyone to even have a freakin normal conversation that doesnt revolve around someone elses pharmacological needs around here, in the hood, and its getting to me. have a blessed day
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Definitely “share” worthy
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@ Abagond- can you fix and make apart of above post-thanks
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D-eVF_G_p-Y)
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@ lifelearner
I think you just posted my favorite video. I loved that. He spoke the truth. So many thoughts are running through my head, but it was amazing. Thank you so much for that.
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#Legion you are such a man. Articulate and well read. And you challenge a sister to think more critically. I nominate you Sir..
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@ Bulainik, Kiss lots of leprachauns. Be safe. Come back soon.
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@Legion I was feeling cheeky.
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@ Sharina
I know right! Keeps me grounded regarding raising critical thinkers. I hope his parents are proud. His creativity speaks volumes.
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eh well i am too annoyed with myself to pick through accidental racist and black girl dating part 2 and 3 most of the comments was to abagond anyway he had to have read em if they got pulled too. like i just let stuff build up its some psychological defect but damn if i didn’t go out there and go to the little town meeting last friday all tuned up and confronted my schiz no fighting no new charges can’t beat that. well i cant say it improved my station any but it happened i still think round the way girl is the ish
the other thing is maybe you can see it’s not so great to be white they shoot anybody now you can see when pulled over like the pickup truck in california two women and dbr? it is i. have a blessed day.
-tc
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and im not with that whoever was sayin there more enlightened sites out there i am out of extreme necessity trying to define a more than thuggish hood persona and believe me i got the arrest record to back that up i find myself really addicted to this blog but in a good way it is nice.
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@ Peanut
I have been kind of ignoring everyone lately. I would not take it personally.
I will take a look at Heartiste. It does seem like a Roissy joint. Do you have particular posts in mind?
I did do a post on Roissy:
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heartiste? wow that is harsh… “i am an alpha male but i have a blog and waste time ego-tripping on lesser life forms” i just checked that out for the first time and it makes me just want to step away from the computer and go outside
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@ Abagond
Hey, how do I find those adorable Black dolls you have featured in the banner up top of your site? I tried looking under Black barbies, but none of them have the awesome hair of the dolls you have up top. Help! Thanks in advance. 🙂
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@legion yeah man about 3 doctors and at least one dentist told me not to smoke but here i am with a newport 100 and well hey it’s not heroin
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@abagond and you know what the eff i be talkin about dude
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eh a lot of my cultural competence and btw havin a pulse is due to the eternal search for decorum
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@darqbeauty
King posted a link further up. Here it is, http://www.naturalgirlsunited.com/natural-hair-dolls.html
I’m definitely going to support this business in the near further. 😀
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its not 400 years wife is stretching it
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yay i got some posts through last night, i guess my who’s team do you want to be on is rhetorical because abagond lives in the us. so asked and answered. with the polemics, ac130 gunship…
but to keep it 100% because i really dont feel like reading and writing right now, but i was on the track of something last night.
as us ‘well-meaning’ at least quasi-enlightened ‘white people’ you should not be so critical of white guilt it is a way to process you know relations i guess in a general sense, it is what i feel when you know, you talk to a black american and they can’t tell you about their family before two generations or so, and not due to out of wedlock blah blah but you know, slavery, it was an undeclared war, again, the tricky part… not all of us were involved, i mean there is a way through all this
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The young women who were fighting for an interracial prom achieved their goal! It will be held tonight, Saturday the 27th. I wish them all the best; they have earned it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/democracy-now/love-has-no-color-georgia_b_3163360.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
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@abagond you’re comin up in the blogosphere
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@abagond and i know i can be a little rough, tryin to get there, man… eternal search for decorum
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yep.
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Cornlia:
From: http://www.pacificcitizen.org/columnists/james-kumpel/asian-americans-and-higher-education
“Specifically, to have equivalent probability of admission as a black student with an 1100 SAT score, Hispanic students would need a 1230, white students would require a 1410, and AAs would need a 1550 (fully 10% higher than whites and 40% higher than blacks)”
I would not characterize this advantage as resulting from “never giving up”, but rather from selecting a particular race on a college admission form.
Linda is right about this line of discussion being off topic to the SSA post which is why I’ve placed this comment in the Open Thread.
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honestly that what i want a nice black girlfriend with a southern accent not too fat drives a stick even on a truck not too much to ask right? like just be nice to me.
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water seek it own level
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(http://townhall.com/columnists/kyleolson/2013/03/12/wisconsin-education-officials-want-students-to-wear-white-privilege-wristbands-n1531315)
This is a very bad idea. It’s reminds me of nazi germany pointing out jews.
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oooh i didn’t know if i should put this in white american music
“sample slim shady”
wiki wiki wiki
10 minutes most days
500 words or less
let my viewpoint through
i’m a member of the press
i will classify your schiz
and write about it too
and we’ll let the mob decide
are you disadvantaged too
well stats can reveal the truth
if you read the book just right
but you know i already saw that
on tv last night
i’ve done everything just right
i’ve done what you should too
i got my kids from that psycho
where do yours go to school
dont worry bout where i live
or how i have fun
my name is my name is
none of your business
rollin down the turnpike …
rollin down the turnpike …
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Aren’t Heartiste and Roissy the same the person?
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ah man here we go again this is how my wordpress credentials got afu… hostilesector.com it is a game between that and facebook
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@legion even i get that one
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@legion hey well no problem… you may have notice my plate is full at this time.
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also from my groovy little fb thread:
another thing i learned over at abagond excepting that im a [explicit words alert] freak!
is i’m mostly irish, but i’m not irish, but i identify as irish. huh. how’s that for higher learning
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@ Legion
The masthead is about the feeling of being the only black person when everyone else is white. It comes from here:
http://abagond.tumblr.com/post/49451916496/beautifulblacksheep-thetpr-bana05
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lol that guy in the pic looks like come save me!!!! everyone else is laughing and having a good time he looks miserable. Everybody hates chris.
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For $10 a day you can help this poor black man surrounded by whites.The survival kit includes: a blanket,a flashlight,a little black friend,a black doll,a night light,and some ramen noodles. So please don’t delay pick up the phone and help,he needs you. call 1800helpme thats 1800-435-763 or go to http://www.helpthisman.org but wait if you call in the next 5 minutes we will send 2 kits for the price of one and you will get a t shirt.please time is running out. Thank you
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I don’t know why I am doing this or what I am hoping for, but here it is.
I am so very sad and angry right now. No one has passed away, but in a way I almost feel that would have been better than the actual situation.
My father is one of the most intelligent and well-read people I know. He has worked hard all his life. He managed to become head of one department in a company. He made a lot of leaps forward for the company and raked in huge amounts of money for them, but never went above that position. Never even got close to the 30K a year salary. I was still a kid when he was suddenly fired and life became more difficult. He went from going to work in a suit and tie to going to work in a cleaner’s apron. He, the hard-working East Asian employee, soon became the mule of the company. Covering everyone when they were away, doing extra hours without extra pay, staying up all night because if he didn’t, they would make up some complaints some people had about his cleaning. They knew he needed the money. He was in charge of all other cleaners, but received no more than minimum wage. The other cleaners knew that if they felt too lazy to come in, he would do their work for them. They took advantage as often as they could. When the boss heard he was trying to set up his own cleaning company, they fired him.
He was working three jobs (my mother, two). Salesman, cleaner, taximan. No weekends. No holidays. I never get to talk to my father. Even when I visit them and stay in their house. The only reason my parents could pay the rent and buy food was because of cash from his taxiing. Everything else is swallowed by other bills and paying off old debts. His boss was corrupt, though. Charging every taxi driver weekly payments to buy the car they were driving. By the time he would have owned the car, he could have bought five of them and it would be so old it would be useless, but when you need money and no one else will give you a job, what can you do? With three jobs to do, he didn’t have the time to taxi and cover those fees. They said he owed 4K. They took his car and fired him. He’s nearly 60. No pension. Now has to walk 3.5km every day to and from his sales job. Can’t pay the rent. Being taken to court. Threatened with repossession when there’s no money available to pay. Can’t get any benefits because after paying their bills, they have 1 pound for rent and food per week and that is apparently `sufficient’ and means they should be fine… And that was before he lost the taxi job.
The company he sells things for are awful, too. He was part-time and came second in a country-wide competition for person who sold the most. The winner was full-time. So, in theory, he is the best salesperson in the whole country if he can come second, part-time, against a full-time worker. They gave him a `full-time’ job as a reward (which he had been asking for for years), but it was basically the same part-time hours rearranged with the same minimum wage. And for all the extra hours he spent covering for other people and doing over-time and consistently being top seller for months on end while coughing up blood from a persistent chest infection, they gave him… a piece of chocolate.
I feel so helpless and useless because I have no money to send and it is illegal for me to work in the country I am in. Compared to UK wages, my husband’s salary is nothing, so he can’t help either. I can’t help. I can’t do anything. I can only watch and wait… And it is one of the most awful feelings in the world.
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@ Iris,
It sucks not being able to help. Sounds like your father is a great man with a tremendous work ethic. Maybe you can find some solace in this, once one hits rock bottom, the only way is up.
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Welcome back Bulanik. Hope you had a great trip.
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Check out this clip regarding Amanda Berry. Charles Ramsey’s was speaking nothing but The Truth! Check it out, especially 2:30 couldn’t help but LOL!!! “DEAD Give away!!” http://youtu.be/gcLSI3oyqhs
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@lifelearner,
I saw that too. His statements about “when a pretty little white girl runs into a Black man’s arms…something is wrong” makes me wonder if this is the media’s newest attempt at character assassination of Black men?
I don’t believe anything the media puts forward is accidental.
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@ phoebeprunelle
I feel ya. But look at him, he’s an avg joe Black man and he went to help someone in need. Charles Ramsey was speaking truth, that girl had to be in trouble! Under normal circircumstances a little white girl wouldn’t dare ask a Black man for help so she must have been in dire need. Amanda Berry didn’t care about race at that particular moment she wanted to be free.
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@lifelearner,
I guess there are alternate views…but are they really “little” girls though??
The whole thing reminds me of the post Abagond did called “Missing White Woman Syndrome”…
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@phoebeprunelle
Yeah I know about the syndrome and I agree with Abagond’s commentary *2007* ( wow, I wonder what post was your first one Abagond?) I digress.
Yep she wasn’t even “little” so you are right about that. There are so many subliminal messages in that clip, there could even be a post about it. But I must give Mr. Ramsey props for being a hero. I’m sure the media will gloss over the fact that a Black man was involved with the safe return of this family member.
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lifelearner,
I did not post here until last year, but commentators have revisited that thread since i started…
There are plenty of subliminal messages in that clip, but here is where i disagree:
On the contrary, I think the media is having a field day with the fact that he is a Black man who rescued a “little” white girl:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/05/07/a-pretty-little-white-girl-ran-into-a-black-mans-armssomething-is-wrong-here/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/cleveland-hero-charles-ramsey-says-something-is-wrong-here-19125172
I’m not making a big deal out of it, but what else is new…
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lifelearner writes:
“Charles Ramsey was speaking truth, that girl had to be in trouble! Under normal circircumstances a little white girl wouldn’t dare ask a Black man for help so she must have been in dire need. Amanda Berry didn’t care about race at that particular moment she wanted to be free..”
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I totally agree; and under similar circumstances, I myself might even seek assistance from a young white guy with tattoos and his hair in a very low buzz cut, whereas I would otherwise make it my business to avoid him!
Regarding the usage of the word “little”: while it is often used to indicate the person in question is either a child or even just small in stature, it can also be used colloquially to mean that the (often young) adult person being described is quite a bit younger than the person using the term. I used to hear it used in this latter way occasionally as I was growing up — mostly by transplanted Southerners.
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Well I’m sure there will be an autotune coming down the pipeline. Just like the ones that have come before him ( i.e. “Sweet Brown” and Antoine Dobson)
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^Yeah…15 minutes of fame LOL!
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This is in relation to a conversation here
and above this comment by Mbeti.
Bulanik, your writing is good in its own right (don’t know if this means something ?) and also and mostly because you do have things to say !
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I know it’s a little silly, but someone actually remixed the interview into a song.
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@Franklin,
I saw that this morning…i’, smh all the way…
But, this whole thing about those women and what that guy is saying just doesn’t add up!
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Guys, I don’t have time to read the comments above now, but I see you were talking about this kidnapping thing. Yesterday, we (I and husband) were wondering about this all out focusing on only the woman called “Amanda Berry”, as if she had an importance that overshadowed her other co-kidnappees… Is it because she is “white”, we wondered…
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Iris, sorry about that.
This is unfortunately the way this world works more and more… “progress” is nowhere to be seen, except in the benefits stockholders make, on the back of others.
My husband works in a big American firm, and he is telling that he sees that they are laying off more and more Indian/Pakistani Engineering, which they used to praise, simply because they want to keep jobs for Americans. They are switching from “real” so-called “diversity” hiring to hiring (American) women, who are also counted as “diversity”. Which is not changing the numbers, but the “diversity” concept is doing what it was invented for: benefiting “whites”…
Talk to your dad to tell him you admire him… That will probably be one of the best things he’s ever been expecting without knowing it…
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(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/angel-cordero-amanda-berry-neighbor_n_3246169.html?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D310818)
It seems the man Charles Ramsey had mentioned seeing running towards the house where the kidnapped women were being held, is his neighbor, Angel Cordero, who lives across the street from the house in question.
Mr Cordero, who doesn’t speak any English, states in an interview conducted in Spanish that he is Amanda Berry’s actual rescuer, as he was the one who arrived at the house first, and that he was the one who kicked in the bottom of the door, allowing Berry’s escape.
He claims that Charles Ramsey, as well as other neighbors, arrived moments AFTER Berry had already been freed.
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I am probably wrong for this. But this handling of this Charles Ramsey fellow is embarrassing to me. I hate the mainstream media and the way it handles black people living in urban communities. I am glad the young women are safe. But by the same token it rankles me the way they are using this Charles Ramsey fellow. I feel they are making him look foolish. I don’t know, but I am feeling some kind of way about this. It seems the media is creating a buffoonish character of Ramsey. That’s just my opinion.
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@ Legion; I have always believed Sylvia Browne was a charlatan. I always felt she was pulling the wool over peoples eyes. Montel Williams has always been disgusting to me. I never was a fan of his.
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And yes, I concur this is Charles Ramsey’s fifteen minuets of fame. But wait he may get a reality show out of this. Maybe Oprah will give him a spot on the OWN network. Maybe him and Tyler Perry will get together.
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Re: Charles Ramsey meme-ification, this commentary sums it up pretty well. http://www.illdoctrine.com/2013/05/t-paining_too_much_the_meme-if.html
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all that sex crap is all mixed up in my head it’s a real problem and it’s not well received by the neighborhood
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then again who cares what a prostitute says bad against you or a drug dealer or crack smoker
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I thought this might be of interest here…It seems science is finally catching on!
“…Researchers establish link between racism and stupidity…”
http://m.ucanews.com/news/news/researchers-establish-link-between-intolerance-racism-and-stupidity/41572
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You’re not alone Bulanik it had me in stitches too!
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@ Peanut
Great idea. I will research booty dancing. If all goes well, the post will go up this coming Wednesday.
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what is that ajax that is so slow here on wp it is not really keeping up with the excessive 500+ posting
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and flash needs to get open sourced bye bye
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the thing about those dna tests is that you are in the database once you get it domestic relations in PA was very sketchy and vague about their information sharing policies
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and with the cameras it’s a little different taking pictures of black people vs. white people even with the digital ish dont know what that’s all about there was that thing with the xbox software too on some real ish
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fb cleans my pics up up some but can’t balance both
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Mary Burrell I felt the same about Charles Ramsey… I don’t think you’re wrong. They’re using him, pretending they are “letting black people express themselves”, while filming him (always up close, for instance, almost with the camera in his nose, outside, never quietly sitting somewhere with a dimmed light) in such a way that it shows it’s not what they are doing.
They definitely don’t treat him in the same way they do most other witnesses. I’m pretty if he had had well trimmed hair and beard, glasses and an suit, we would never even have learnt from him…
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@Legion; That’s for the information. I will certainly check it out. The cancer pink ribbon business is suspicious to me as well. All that money for research where does it go. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark where that is concerned. Again thank you for responding to me.
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btw someone was trippin on romulus and remus a while back it’s like moses but this wolf mother found the twin boys and raised them as her own
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Thanks you for the book recommendations, Legion.
I myself have had a few minor run-ins, so to speak, with precognition, as well as other forms of ESP/PSI phenomena.
Instances such as physically sensing (not just knowing alone) that the phone would ring moments before it does, and physically sensing, as well as knowing, that I would win a drawing (the prize turned out to be a few Sham-Wows rolled up in a rubber band lol) seconds before my number was called (this latter case was sort of an unpleasant / nauseating *quickening* sensation where everything appeared sort of wonky and surreal just before my ticket stub was pulled and number called
There have been a few other incidences, also, none of which I had any real sense of control over. Mostly they were things that just happened rather than things which I MADE happen.
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Abagond, do you think my comments are relevant to your blog ?
I am getting a little tired of either the personal stuff or the “you’re white and shut up” things.
I am not here to interact that way, to “justify” my “self”, but to give my humble but convinced opinion on the things you offer to discussion.
There are too few places in this world for non-racists (and non-racist classified as “white”) to express their opinion freely and I know why.
It makes me a little sad that people would perceive “me” (because it’s seldom what I say that gets pointed to) as they do, but they have their “reasons”, I guess.
If you tell me my comments don’t bring any particular perspective, I’ll stop posting and will unsubscribe, because I actually put some time in this and I think (¨thought”) it was time spent positively.
Thanks.
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@Legion; Thank you so much. I always appreciate your input and commentary.
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The MURDER BLACK PEOPLE “system/network” is just rollin’ along – exactly as designed… Another case of DEATH by cop, and “oops, sorry … wrong house, … of course race had absolutely nothing to with this!”
Especially in Nashville, Tennessee.
{{{ Yeah, right. }}}
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475&page=1&fb_source=message#.UXvQ_EpNXOv
White people with guns – and their enablers – are hazardous to the well being of Africans.
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@ Cornlia
I value all perspectives, even (or especially) those I disagree with. When offering an honest opinion there will always be people who do not like it. I hardly let that stop me.
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A day like today is making me miss my mom very much right now. Happy Mother’s Day to all!
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@leigh204; I am sad as well. My mother passed last month on this past Good Friday. Happy Mother’s Day blessings to all the mothers.
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@ Cornlia
I agree with Bulanik. Don’t let people get you down. If you believe in something stick by it and fight harder. Most of the time those people look like fools anyway. We all have had our share.
@ Leigh and Mary
I am sad to know you guys will not be sharing this special days with your mothers, but rest assured that they are looking down on you and love you.
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I don’t think that last sentence came out right. They are looking down from heaven at how amazing their daughters are and love you.
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Abagond, have you covered this one on your main site yet?
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwINn5DEL1c)
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God bless everyone today.
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@Sharina and all Thank You.
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I’m waiting for this to get Michael Vick coverage>
http://www.baltimorenewsjournal.com/2013/05/07/harford-county-public-schools-employee-stephanie-mikles-indicted-on-bestiality-charges/
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Police State news:
http://gizmodo.com/5890507/police-drone-crashes-into-police
****
As predicted, the LOCAL police/military forces are IMPLEMENTING DRONE technology on AmeriKKKan soil (and in her skies).
*What they do to people overseas, they will do to us over here.*
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Legion, you have been acting like an a hole to me , but, I hope you get through your rough time
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…and , Mary, may your mother rest in peace…hang in there
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@Bulanik; No, I haven’t seen the Star Trek films. But I think Naveen Andrews is HOTTT!!!! I loved him on Lost and The English Patient. He is super sexy.
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Yeah, He’s just yummy. LOVE HIM!!!!
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Hang in there Legion. Best wishes to you.
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good luck legion i’m goin thru it too obviously, but i didn’t go ballistic last friday first time in a while. the whole porn thing, it’s like some psychic cyst got lanced and drained no freudian slip intended. br’s funny he is like a pittie with a locked jaw. my current strategy is to avoid everyone i am not even really posting on fb it is time to turn this slight calmness into a wider entity of peace. thanks everyone on some real ish
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@ Legion
I am late with the well wishes but hang in there.
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@v8driver
I wish you luck as well.
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🙂
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right, well i didn’t go insane vis a vis ranting and drunkin posting last friday; that’s an improvement. Friday has been my day to sort of explode from poorly constrained stress. Posting about my sex issues is a step towards healing. BR is ‘stuck’ as we say or somewhat attached to the porn thing; a pit bull dog has jaws that will lock if the animal’s lower jaw goes past a certain point when it’s biting and it can’t be removed excepting with the animal’s death. An ‘analogy’. And I’m avoiding people because mostly, they want to get high here in my lovely neighborhood and I’m done for now, feeling peace-ish, good karma, namaste, all that! cheers!
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I’m sad to hear of your mother’s passing, Mary. You have my sincere condolences.
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Legion, you’ll be in my thoughts, and I hope that everything turns out for the best.
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@Legion I will lift you up in prayer to the Father in my daily meditiations my friend Blessings to you. Mary
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@ Fiamma; Thank You.
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thanks bulanik
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@ Legion, Bulanik, lifelearner & Cornlia
Thank you for your kind comments and support. I really appreciate it.
I spoke to my parents recently. They had applied for working tax credit as they are not entitled to any benefits. Despite several people they know who get it earning MORE than them, they were denied. My father insists what they have currently is enough to cover rent and food, but I am afraid.
I really did think for a long time that, once they hit the bottom, the only way was up. Yet so many times they went one step forwards only to tumble two or three steps backwards due to some random awful event immediately following any good news. The other issue that holds them back is a bad credit rating from when he first got fired. Once you’re in there, you fall deeper and deeper. No one wants to give you a job. No one wants to have you renting their property.
It’s a shame that is the way the world works. I wish I could do something, but I don’t know what…
@ Cornlia
If it means anything, I am always interested to read what you have to say.
@ mary burrell
I am very sorry to hear that. May she rest in peace.
@ Legion
I am sorry that you are also going through a rough time. I hope that there’s something you can do to improve the situation. Wishing you all the best.
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@ Iris; Thank you. I will be think of you and your family during my meditation and prayer time. Blessings to you.
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@ all
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=39c_1368515756
A bit of comic relief, now just imagine if the childbirthing was up to the males. The human race would be extinct! LOL 😀
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@ Peanut
My studies in bootyology proceed apace. I have not forgotten! I will have the post up tomorrow, God willing.
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Yeah, well Im girding my loins for battle on that one , Abagond
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gees , its a joke, meant to be funny, and at the same time, not knowing what kind of uptight commentary that could take it into “capatalism, racism, sexism” could be lurking….
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@abagond you are confusing me
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@ B.R. (and anyone else):
What kinds of booty dancing do they have in Brazil? What do they call it (in Portuguese) or the different kinds of dances? Where does it come from? How far back in time does it go? Are there any good studies on it or stuff online? What do you remember of it in the U.S.? If you want to send an email you have my address. Thanks for any help you can give.
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@ v8driver
I am working on a post on booty dancing.
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Make sure you include some man booty dancing for the girls!
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Here is a citing concerning views on ethnicity in the UK:
“A study conducted for the Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) in 2005 found that in England, the majority of ETHNIC MINORITY (emphasis, mine) participants called themselves British, whereas INDIGENOUS ENGLISH (emphasis, mine) participants said English first and British second.”
Also, according to the link, the UK Census breaks down its white population as follows: white British, white (other) and white Irish. Non-whites are listed as being neither British NOR English nor Scottish nor Welsh nor Northern Irish; they are listed according to their actual ethnic / geographical origins: Black Caribbean; Black African; Indian; Bangladeshi; Pakistani; Chinese et cetera.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom
I won’t be returning to the Briticisms thread. Straw man arguments, appeals to emotion (‘Blacks and Browns died for England’ — I can die for Mars; it won’t make me a native Martian) and insinuations of my being racist against Black and Brown Brits (absolute nonsense) are rampant over there and all because I view non-English ethnics, regardless of race, who were born in England as being ‘British’ (which is actually a common descriptor for ALL citizens of the UK without regards to race or ancestry) rather than as ethnic English people.
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Oh, and Abagond, please do something about the obvious examples of plagiarism which pop up in quite a few commentaries on your blog. If I’m aware of them, others are too. I’ve been guarded about saying anything concerning it here for months now, but the problem is never addressed despite it being so apparent.
One recent example can be found in the comments under the Tasmanian Genocide post. The thoughts and wording which a particular commenter claims for self were actually words taken from the author of another blog. The link for said blog is contained in one of my posts in that thread (unless that particular post has been deleted for some reason, of course).
There are many other examples, and I can point them out with proof if need be. This is why it is important to cite sources and/or provide links. Looking up info as a refresher to knowledge already acquired is one thing; lifting entire articles with a reorganizing here or a minor rewording there, and without citing sources, is another. My apologies, but it needed to be said.
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I need friends my own age.
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Hi. This website is a bit scary. I’m a young black women from USA. I was planning on studying abroad in the UK at the completion of my program, but after reading this website…I’m not so sure anymore. It looks like the UK is just as racist as the US. I don’t know if I want to spend extra money to be treated like crap over there, when I get treated like crap here for free.
I actually found this site after looking for advice regarding some racist white women at my job who are trying to get me fired. Only to find that the place I’m eager to travel to (England) will treat me the same way. I don’t know what to do…I really want to travel abroad. Can any black women suggest some countries for me? I’m a bit upset, actually:(
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@abagond you must have been typeing that just as I was commenting…
yeah i kinda think someone else too has seen lately grouping of 3-4 threads that has some definite flow-through in there, i got it roughly at the time i was posting that more or less, and it’s interesting how i guess as sort of a late posting from the charles ramsey thread, the vogue thing came up. Damned if I say it, more damned if i don’t but a lot of ‘white folks’ wouldn’t even dream of seeing that hulking brute meme in the vogue picture, i know that for a fact, and there is a real disconnect there in perceptions.
my thing is sort of refining again, my motivations to be here, i have to admit truthbetold makes me feel some kinda way like you know because i’m white, i guess it’s analagous to ‘white shame’ ie that there really aint much i can do but i have a relatively clean conscious and so if it don’t apply let it fly i said so before…
and everyone talks about what they like in a sex partner, and their most likeley either married and probably bear little resemblance to the original body style into which they entered that sacred union, or are lonely and pining away into their computer monitor, i’m just looking for one who’ll give me a damn chance, not too fat, black, southern accent be nice but not required, and drives manual transmission, not too much to ask, right?
she out there.
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@legion I’ll check out Wayne Dyer, thanks, goin to the library today as a matter of fact…
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@lovelygirl; I think you should travel and have your own adventure and experience. Racism will always be here no matter where you go. But I don’t think you should let that deter you. London is really cool. I would like to to go back there in the future. Maybe Bulaink and Legion would show me around some places I didn’t get to see. London really is cool. I think you really should travel abroad. To be well traveled is a great experience for a young woman.
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Well….thoughts? Anyone else read about this?
http://newsone.com/2465709/real-bronx-tours/
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Thanks, Mary Burrnell. That’s encouraging. I should not let racist systems/people keep me from doing what I want to do in life. That is giving them power over me.
I also read the “invisible black woman” article. Black women in USA are not invisible; it’s more like people choose to ignore us.
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@legion i read the autobiography of malcolm x in about 1992, i remember it pretty well. I’ve always maintained that’s one thing about true communists or true muslims they respect all races.
and don’t mind me too too much, my depression is pretty severe even when i have a breakthrough as i have on a couple items here, it only lasts for a little while, like a pink cloud vis a vis “recovery concept”, but the pills they give me make it worse…
in terms of clarifiying my motives, i certainly don’t want to become some type of ‘know-it-all’ with regards to black culture, like a cocktail party socialite (yeah right), a wonk if you will, i suppose i identified that as a possible offshoot of participating here, not that being knowledgeable is bad in and of itself, but most of the women i have dated (yes, black) were not so much about history and stuff and perhaps moving up in a ‘class of understanding’ of black culture may put me in sort of a context of people that are more aware of race and the problems we have and maybe more reluctant to socially and/or emotionally bond with a white person, but then again this is philly…
in any event, uber-libs up!
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Bulanik writes:
“What this musician/shop owner told me and believed, was that the lute developed in a culture that started to favour polyphonic chordal harmony while the oud developed in a culture that started to favour greater micro-tonal complexity. There was no need to eliminate frets for the lute, but much need to do so with the oud.”
(extracted from Is the term sub-Saharan Africa racist? comment #159493)
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The above was plagiarized from the following site:
Excerpted from the site itself:
“The lute developed in a culture that started to favour polyphonic chordal harmony while the oud developed in a culture that started to favour greater micro-tonal complexity. There was no need to eliminate frets for the lute, but much need to do so with the oud.”
This is not a singular incident. There are many more. Even Wikipedia articles, which are easily accessed, have been plagiarized by this commenter….
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“Wichita Lineman” is, like, a perfect song. The lyrics describe the loneliness that a man feels while he works and his longing for an absent lover. It paints a word picture of someone working high-up. The words alone are poetic and resonant.
The phrase “singing in the wire” always stuck out for me.
I thought it referred to the sonic vibration from by wind blowing across small wires / conductors, making them whistle or whine like a harp. In the recording itself, the orchestral arrangement is the effort of the violins and keyboards to mimic these ethereal sounds and morse code, and the words, “I can hear you through the whine” further alludes to them.
white-american-music/#comment- comment #160909
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Plagiarized excerpt:
“The lyrics describe the loneliness that a telephone or electric power lineman feels while he works and his longing for an absent lover.
The phrase “singing in the wire” can refer to the sonic vibration commonly induced by wind blowing across small wires and conductors, making these lines whistle or whine like an aeolian harp. It could also, or even simultaneously, refer to the sounds that a lineman might hear when attaching a telephone earpiece to a long stretch of raw telephone or telegraph line, i.e. without typical line equalisation and filtering.[10] In the recording, a notable feature of the orchestral arrangement is the effort of the violins and keyboards to mimic these ethereal sounds and morse code, and the lyric, “I can hear you through the whine” further alludes to them.”
Uncited source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Lineman
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^Link to comment ^
link to other plagiarized comment follows:
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Good point, Fiamma, there never has been a connection between you and me…but I noticed Bulanik seemingly quoting word for word from African Holocaust…..you are very obsevant
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And I really find it funny that Bulanik, with her ability to bring past posts by people forward from the past, cant even bring in the post where I supposidly “belittled her as a blakc woman”, which she accused me of doing
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I find this very strange trying to push a connection between me and Fiamma, I have hardly had a discusion with her, and she never really defended any position I took…..I mean this is bizzarre
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the comment was removed about the suposed link with me and Fiamma…mentioning Mira…it looks like Im bringing up something out of nowhere
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‘line noise’ it is one of the most interesting sounds to me to hear the wind through that threaded steel cable, or yeah a ungrounded buttset (telephone tech test phone) on an analog system, would be some 50 Mhz carrier noise and staticy stuff… the telephone lines carry 40-120 volts to carry signal and make the old style phone bell ring
talkin about some other ish being up on gaffs too, that was not fun.
and for what it’s worth sw philly is a great place to lose that “white is the default” mind-set.
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@ Kiwi
con’t from Kartina Richardson thread
I’m sorry you had to experience that. Fortunately, I was only ever there as an adult so it wasn’t as bad, but people’s treatment of me definitely stemmed from the same sort of thinking.
I definitely experienced the worst when I was a kid and teenager in the UK. I think that view of me as being immature because of my race also existed, but people didn’t want to help me. Instead they over-estimated how weak and sensitive I must be and repeatedly told me my pain was `probably nothing’. One time I tore all the ligaments in my ankle and everyone insisted it was `just a sprain’. I came in the next day with crutches. Another time, I had to go to the emergency room in the middle of the night to have a retainer removed from my mouth as the wire had pierced its way into my gum. When I had complained of pain in school earlier, they brushed me off saying `braces are supposed to hurt’. As an adult I even had a small tumour (benign, thankfully), but the first doctor I went to condescendingly told me `everyone has pains now and then. It’s a part of life.’
All I can do is roll my eyes.
I’ve experienced this too. I live in Asia at the moment and people seem to feel the same way about White Americans. Or any White man. That people will actually be hurrying around and going out of their way to please him. Or that people will take a White man’s word over mine when it comes to English, even if it’s his second or third language and I’m a native speaker!
That’s sad.
I agree Asians can have a fetish, too. I see it here every day. Any young White guy with a little height gets looked at and flirted with endlessly by local women. It goes to these men’s heads and makes them vulgar.
No need for an apology! I liked reading it.
Glad to know I’m not alone with feeling like I’m going crazy. I naively thought moving to East Asia would free me from it, but you still feel the influence. Also, since I am half White I do get mistaken for 100% White half the time. It’s bizarre to go from being `the Asian’ and hearing all sorts of microaggressions about my Asian heritage to suddenly having people only seeing the White side. Hearing the compliments on my `big eyes’ or my `tall nose’ is also creepy. Even if that’s not mentioned, I always have to wonder if someone is only complimenting me because of the Whiteness they can see. This is also the first time where I have truly felt rejected by East Asians as well as White people. So while I may enjoy some things here, I do struggle internally with it sometimes.
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@Iris,
Yes, your experience echoes many Eurasians who move to Asia. It seems whites see Asian features first, but Asians often see “western” features first – a perpetual foreigner everywhere. Also, you understand how a “compliment” feels more like a rejection. Do you understand the local languages / dialects well?
Have you been to Xinjiang or Central Asia? That is an interesting experience.
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For those readers who are unsure as to why plagiarism is considered an unethical practical (a form of thievery, essentially), the following is an excerpt from:
http://www.ehow.com/list_6574936_effects-plagiarism.html
“Habit
Plagiarism is a form of cheating, and when a person commits plagiarism they’re not doing their own work but rather riding on the coat tails of someone else. If plagiarism remains undetected then the cheater may end up getting higher marks or credit than he deserves. If a plagiarist gets away with it once, then he may think he can get away with it more than once as well, which leads to repeated cheating. This practice can eat away at a person’s integrity and work ethic, especially if they’re not getting caught while they use another’s work as their own.
Embarassment
Another effect of plagiarism is that it creates embarrassment for both the plagiarist and for those who didn’t catch the plagiarism sooner. This is especially the case when the plagiarist has passed off his work as his own and he’s been given praise, grades or admittance to a college based on plagiarized work. This can lead to a loss of face for the organization, but it can also lead to a loss of face for the person who got caught plagiarizing.”
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Absolutly, Fiamma, and it raises a lot of other questions , like how much else of what the detected plagiarist is saying is true? How much anecdotal evidance the plagiarist has given in the past is true ?
There is a show on MTV where they go investigating cyber relationships, where a person has built a cyber relationship on the net, and they go to find out if one of the people actualy is who they say they are, and, they discover they are completly differant, sometime a differant sex than they claim.
Fiamma, you were maliciously attacked for pointing out the incidents that were plagiarised…Abagond had to delete one post because it was an obvious attack on you
The truth is the internet is rampant with cyber fraud, unfortunatly, it is one of the vulnerable areas about it
When something like that happens on a blog like this, there is a short moment where you start to get these are just cyber blips , and you start looking around at the other cyber blips around you and wonder if they are for real or not
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Ive got to hand it to you, Fiamma, I could learn a lot from you , seeing you start to get belittled leading to malicious and deceitful attacks, you calmly went ahead and did the research and sliced and diced to get to the truth
I guess for the literary, the plagiarising is the moral issue, for me its the malicious deceitful belittling , charactor assasination, and the lingering stench of lies that carry over from these charactor assasinations
“Another effect of plagiarism is that it creates embarrassment for both the plagiarist and for those who didn’t catch the plagiarism sooner. This is especially the case when the plagiarist has passed off his work as his own and he’s been given praise…”
Unfortunatly, I dont see you getting much support on the blog, now, Fiamma, only me and Abagond have noticed how astute your work was.
People have invested in being “freinds”…you got courage,
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eh i don’t think next>> is going to cut it… and i have problems with embedded videos in general here phone and computer it might be international rights who knows my flash is up at home
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last person called me ‘my n’ i said no i take that as a compliment i mean that is a simple fact of life of talking to black people in the hood, that is another you know real issue to address for me and you know white people in general, but ‘ns and bs’ you know that is not my place to say stop that
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@Kiwi
Re: Iris
If you cannot understand that, how would you feel if someone got complimented by their Asian features, eg, “I love your slanted eyes and flat face” would that turn you off? What do you imagine the difference would be to an non-mixed Asian that hears that vs. a Eurasian?
If you can understand why that might be a turnoff, then maybe you can understand why being “complimented” on having certain “white” features can equally be a turnoff.
Regarding your cousin, it might be that they might listen to white people saying all day long how “oriental” they look and when finally someone points out that they look part white, they might feel a sign of relief that someone finally recognizes what their background is. But it is not the same if someone does that in Asia.
I hope you could see how it is possible for even a full Asian to feel a compliment if someone asks her if she is part white based on her features, and how a Eurasian might feel differently, especially if it is disguised as a compliment, but the subtext is that the person does not COUNT as fully human (or at least not at all like them) because he/she cannot be categorized in their mind. In the Eurasian’s case, they feel like they are being dissected.
Please keep this in mind the next time you are thinking of complimenting someone on this.
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I think it is always creepy when someone compliments you on something (not race-related, like being intelligent or talented or high achieving or tolerant of cold), implying that race itself has something to do with it. It is also creepy to be complimented for “having their Caucasian’s parent’s (tall) height, when it is their Asian parent that is tall and the Caucasian parent is shorter. These things are simply creepy.
Compliments can sometimes be disguised racial remarks. For example, I am sure you have experienced someone telling you how good your English is, but be miffed if you alert them that they made a glaring error in their English (as though you, someone who probably does not have a full grasp of English in the first place, could have the gall and disrespect to do that) when all you were trying to do was clear up a misunderstanding caused by their defective English. Now imagine a Eurasian being told by white people how good their English is, and by Asians how good their (Asian language) is, when you know, full well, that they did not mention the subtext.
That is beyond creepy.
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@ Jefe
Yes, I was expecting it in a way, but perhaps not as bad as it is.
It makes sense that one group sees the features `opposite’ to theirs first, but in Europe and North America, it seemed other Asians recognised I was Eurasian a lot easier than White people did. (Without me telling them.)
My father didn’t get the chance to teach me when I was young. I am learning, but it’s not at a high enough level, yet. I can do most basic things necessary to survive here, but not have a casual conversation with anyone beyond a few sentences. I can read a lot more than I can speak.
Unfortunately, I haven’t had the opportunity to travel there. If I ever have the chance, I will. What was your experience?
Yes, you understand why being complimented on being half White is uncomfortable and does not feel flattering for me!
It is, isn’t it? I also dislike it when you are talented at something and someone takes away from it by bringing up your race as if that should automatically grant you that skill. One person said I am learning Mandarin so quickly, then another said, `Oh, it must be programmed into your brain because of your Chinese genes!’ Nothing to do with my intelligence, hard work or will to learn, it’s just easier for me because of my race…
@ Kiwi
I have had that exact same experience as well. Where I will give an answer and it won’t be accepted, then the person asks a White person (whether they are a native speaker or not) and their reply IS accepted. (Even when it’s wrong.)
From what you’ve said, your cousins don’t sound as aware of racial issues as you and I. I probably would’ve welcome the compliments when I was unaware, too. Thanks to internalised racism, I used to wish for a narrower, pointier nose along with bigger, greener eyes and bigger eyelids.
Jefe understands partially why I dislike it.
Another reason is White people have always been the ones hurting me and attacking me for being East Asian, so why should I be happy for being recognised as one of them?
In addition, being perceived as East Asian has shaped the majority of my life and personality. In being seen as only White, it is as if I myself am erased along with my life experiences. It also takes away from my strength to fight through adversity instead of being handed things due to privilege.
Also, my father is quite dark. The darkest on his side of the family. I have never heard any hateful commentary on dark skin from him or my Chinese side of the family. So there was no emphasis on having `beautiful’ white skin.
Jefe already mentioned being racially dissected. That’s a very uncomfortable position to be in. It is also awkward to have everything tied to race. `You’re beautiful because you’re White’ is just as bad as being told, `You’re good looking for an Asian.’ It’s a back-handed compliment. Is my Asian half supposed to be a stain that made me uglier? Why must it always be about my being mixed? Why not a compliment for ME the person, and not my race?
It depends on the individual. I’m sure there are plenty of mixed people who have had an easier life than me and you. As well as those who’ve had it worse. Being mixed just adds another layer of things we may have to deal with in addition to the usual things in life.
If you’ve seen my post further up about my father’s struggles to succeed in the UK, you’ll know I agree with you 100% on the useless bootstraps…
Thank you for the same. 😛
On the Asians not valuing blackness and hating being dark, yes, that’s 100% true. Darker skin is seen as ugly here. The whiter, the better. I always thought I was fairly light (feel neutral about that), but I’m considered medium here. If I pick make-up in the darkest tone, it’s still too light for me and people hand me whitening creams on the street and in stores. I find beauty in various skin tones, but the locals definitely don’t.
Hmm, I can really write a book on this, can’t I?
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@Iris
Sorry for the long reply, but here it goes.
I understand that too.
My mother is from a small city in Alabama. I was her parents’ first grandson, born during the time of the Freedom Rides (Abagond even did a post on my mother’s hometown — I did one on my hometown neighborhood too) 😛 . Most grandparents are proud of having grandkids, esp. their first. Mine were deeply ashamed. They would not take her in after she had a fight with my father (if she brought her baby with her). When I was a child, they brought out the Bible and told me I was cursed by God. My family could not travel together as a family before the anti-miscegenation laws were repealed. When we moved into neighborhoods, we (and our house) were attacked, windows broken with rocks, fires started on the property, signs and flags planted in the yard stating “Jap, Go Home”. I was bullied regular by both whites and blacks “let’s go get the Chink”. Couldn’t wait to leave. That is one reason I went to New York (and later, away from the USA).
My grandparents got better for a while in mid-childhood (sharing themselves more with me), but re-condemned me after I got to my late teens. They told me I could never be an American, unless I castigate any association with “non-American” things (eg, learning Mandarin, making friends with some Asian-Americans, etc.), and maybe after 3-4 generations of dilution, my great-grandkids could be reclassified as American.
It didn’t stop there. At job interviews people asked where I learned English, and how long I had been in the USA. Coworkers circulated a lot of “oriental” jokes around the office. Real Estate agents in NYC would not show me apartments or steered me to certain neighborhoods or landlords. I strongly believe it was also a factor in getting fired from at least one job. And once, someone who hired me (a Jamaican-born black American) told me that he hired me because he prefers “orientals”. I was sick and tired of it, and felt that I had to leave.
So, yes, I understand how being classified as “white” on random, but frequent occasions is not only creepy, but somehow seems to erase a lifetime of experience. But, for multiracial people who get accused of kissing up to whites, I can never condemn however they decide to live their lives either. Whatever is fine as long as it does not hurt others. If it works for them, then great.
But, it didn’t stop by moving overseas. For example, in my prior job, when I brought a bowl of congee and rice crepes to work for breakfast, I had a Chinese colleague tell me that she was surprised to see me eat that and thought “you all” (referring to me) eat bread for breakfast. Within the same week, a British colleague (who happened to be married to a Taiwanese) saw me bring in an Egg McMuffin, and told me that he thought “you people” (meaning me) eat congee and fried noodles for breakfast and HE was surprised. You can never win. No matter what I do, people will be shocked or surprised, or attribute it to something racial. It gets weary.
Still, it is not 1/10 as bad as it was in the USA.
It might help to keep note of multiracial people that the general public knows, so that they can associate you with something. When they have a familiar concept to latch onto, then they might limit some of their creepy behaviour. For example, in China and Taiwan, everyone knows who “Fei xiang” (Kris Phillips) is – a model, singer and actor in Taiwan and China, but also a model and broadway performer in New York. In the late 1980s, his performances in China were a form of peace offering from both Taiwan and America – the first person from either place to perform on Mainland China national television in a public venue in Beijing. I tell people, even now, that back when he was popular, someone circulated a rumour at a party full of Taiwanese girls in the USA that I was his younger brother (Suddenly everyone was dying to meet me.). In any case, behavior such as speaking both English and Mandarin does not seem strange (for a Eurasian) if people have a reference to explain things for them.
Then they might attach some of their attitudes towards that person onto you. But if you can steer them, at least you might be able to manage it.
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@Abagond
Please delete ALL comments on this blog-site made by me up until 23rd May, 2013.
Please delete each and every statement, personal account, question, answer, video and link provided by this commenter, on ALL THREADS.
I have requested deletion of my comments before, and this request is not different.
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In doing the above, note that:
1) it’s not for you to judge your commenters from a position of moral superiority. As you judge others, so shall you also be judged. And,
2) you have no entitlement to make a “patsy” out of me because I do not flatter you.
Thank you.
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@ Anyone who would like to respond…
Have I missed something here?
abagond
@ Fiamma
Thank you for the examples. They are helpful.
@ Bulanik
1. I deleted two of your comments where you question Fiamma’s motives or make light of them.
2. Fiamma’s examples are pretty damning. I have unwittingly repeated things I have read, using some of the same words and phrases, but not to that level of detail. I still put things the way I would say it.
The dyslexia thing I could maybe buy, but attacking Fiamma makes it seem like you have a guilty conscience. Plagiarism is serious. Someone who did it unknowingly would be embarrassed and apologetic, not trying to turn the tables.
I’d like to know where these examples are? Have they been deleted why?
Bulanik has made many and extensive contributions on this blog…Informative and factual. More than ANY other blog commentator you could care to mention regularly and persistently commenting here.
Granted she has allowed her comments to diverge into petty and pointless pursuits – Sometimes. But then I could quote or provide far worse examples displayed by other commentators much less informative comment. So I repeat…
Have I missed something here….!
Why is crucial evidence not being publicly and honestly displayed in the spirit of openness we all take for granted on this blog?
@ Bulanik
Your comment to Abagond to delete ALL your contributions up to this point seems ridiculous and childish to me and would prove nothing regardless of what has been said whether it was true or false. IT RESOLVES AND ACHIEVES NOTHING!!!
@ Abagond
If you comply with Bulanik’s request you will also be guilty of condoning such behaviour. (as well as shining a light on your own) Not to mention ruining your own carefully recorded historical account of the many freely given contributions of Black, white and non-white commentators alike. Is this really what you want to do?
Is it really worth just throwing all this away…over what…?
This is not the first time I’ve seen this type of “acrimony” break out… I have commented on it before and will doubtless do it again…
Surely, in the midst of these (in my humble opinion) childish, petty, immature and superficial squabbles you can find a better solution than that???
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I have a simple question I would like to pose on the evidence of plagiarism (true or false) levelled at Bulanik on this site…
What was she hoping to gain from this assuming this was true?
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“Bulanik writes:
“What this musician/shop owner told me and believed, was that the lute developed in a culture that started to favour polyphonic chordal harmony while the oud developed in a culture that started to favour greater micro-tonal complexity. There was no need to eliminate frets for the lute, but much need to do so with the oud.”
(extracted from Is the term sub-Saharan Africa racist? comment #159493)
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The above was plagiarized from the following site:
Excerpted from the site itself:
“The lute developed in a culture that started to favour polyphonic chordal harmony while the oud developed in a culture that started to favour greater micro-tonal complexity. There was no need to eliminate frets for the lute, but much need to do so with the oud.”
This is not a singular incident. There are many more. Even Wikipedia articles, which are easily accessed, have been plagiarized by this commenter….”
Kwamla , Fiamma starts a bunch of posts showing plagiarism here…I dont know how to link up posts, but it is right up above on this thread, maybe May 23, you can read her other proof after that link
Interesting how people are implicating me “petty squabbles”….”high school”…this has absolutly nothing to do with me except my name was brought up in the deleted post as though I was colaborating with Fiamma against her
I have nothing to do with it, Im only commenting on it…after all, it is valid to note Fiamma was maliciously attacked, the fact I have been maliciously attacked for two years being called a stalker doesnt really count
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Is this a high school confidental or a blog for grown ups?
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@ all
I am away from my computer and am unable to do any mass deletion of Bulanik’s comments till Monday.
It is her right, in my book, to have any or all of her comments deleted, however unwise that decision might seem to me. She knows her situation way better than I ever will.
I do hope she reconsiders. Her comments play a big part on many threads. Removing them will make those threads hard to follow.
What makes sense to me is to remove only the questionable posts, the ones Fiamma pointed out, and put Bulanik on warning to be more careful in future, writing it off as an honest mistake.
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@Bulanik: I wish you would reconsider and keep your comments on the blog. Your commentary is a very integral part on this blog site. I hope you consider commenting. I really enjoy your commentary.
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@bulanik, hope you stick around it’s great to get perspective from outside the US
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@ B.R.
1. You need to cool it on what someone said about you in a DELETED comment. Even I am forgetting what it said. Give it a rest.
2. We do not know who Bulanik TRULY is, but the same could be said of you. Apart from ordinary human vanity, I have no reason to suspect her of being anything other than how she represents herself. If anything, people are TOO honest about who they are, a leading cause of Massive Comment Deletion Syndrome.
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@ Peanut
She did not give a reason. You probably know as much as I do.
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@abgond ” If anything, people are TOO honest about who they are, a leading cause of Massive Comment Deletion Syndrome.”
you know white people’ll tell you their whole life story, that’s what vicki always used to say she wasn’t the only one
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Except I can direct you to 50 video clips that bear out who I describe who I am
You can google up my name with an added word “cd” and get many pages of reality of my experiances, which Im happy to direct anyone to
Unless you argued that Im totaly stealing some ones identity…
While most of the people here , and especialy those belittling me are mostly cyber blips we really dont have a real idea who is who
, yes, that is the point, Abagond, its a bunch of cyber blips , and unless someone can direct us to proof of who we are, people could be totaly hiding behind their screens, and pretend anything, its sure happened with the plethora of sock puppets. I have also maintained , its not even the plagiarism, its the malicious nastiness that is on display, that really is something I dont like and have no problem defending against
I have already said , it doesnt matter if anyone doesnt see the deleted post, what is important is I saw it
I also said Im not asking for any punishment, but I would be relentless if any nasty things are implied or directly sent my way in any future debate, and Im too lazy now , but it wouild be my pleasure to find more posts that are plagiarised, Ive had my suspicians before and mentioned it on the SSA thread, I just didnt go and try to prove it
You see Abagond, in my real life , I laugh at what has gone down…but , my cyber blip has been attacked, belittled, lied about and ganged up on, its obligated to do its duty on some cyber space survival leval, I couldnt stop it if it wanted to…for sure delete any comments that are against your blog rules, as you are doing
For the people throwing up shock and feined upsetness at our “sqabbles”, look in your own mirrors, none of you, absolutly none of you have not been in your own nasty squables
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Is this a high school confidental or a blog for grown ups?
I’d haard a guess and say it is a bit of both!
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yo if i knew what i knew now in high school i would be a different person by seven league strides
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@.br you come across, i don’t know how to say it, a little help here?
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@herneith: Yeah, I think it is gettin hard to guess.
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@sam sometimes watching abagond’s process is like watching a binomial search progress he is good at what i would call a reductionist psychological process
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eh, i jumped into this fb group called “THE GREAT DEBATE OF THE RACES!” it is basically the broken record dep’t here x10 and it is a very short grace period, it is not recommended for serious study
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Ill tell you what, Abagond, Im happy to make a trade here, Bulanik can come back on, she isnt banned, and Ill leave, to not be a constraining force….just to show Im not playing games here…
Im extremly disalusioned with attitudes on the “bootie dancing” thread about Brazil…I dont really keep company with people who think like that, as well as the international American policy threads constrain me if I cant curse people out
Its not you or your fantastic blog, I just dont like keeping company with people who describe passistas as “bootie wiggling, propositioning coitus” ” over sexualised” and try to tie in Baile funk with child prostitution, and where malicious deceptive behaviour is accepted because a person apears to be ideologicly hooked up…Im very disalusioned with the side of the left that accepts lies , half truths , hypocracies where they scream bloody murder at the USA but wont utter a peep at the other side…or even try to champion Fidel or Che…underneath the supposed squables are serious ideological battles going on…and I absolutly hate the right wingers…but im very disapointed in the left wing that is getting uptight and more uptight as time goes by
So, if Im the constraining factor here, Ill gladly leave, if that is what Bulanik needs to come back on, because if she comes back and im on here and she makes some kind of negative remark about what Im saying,Ill be relentless, all she has to do is come in and accept the trade…on one condition, no mention of my name aftewrwards or make a statement about a position I took, or an implication of a position I took
Again, its not you or your fantastic blog…Ill just offer up a solution here that might satisfy the blog commenters
And you people feigning shock at the long winded arguments, you must be joking, you all need to look in the mirror…I mean , when you all pretend its so highschool and the whining and how horrible these battles are , its just comedy central at that point
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@ All
Despite what might have been said in those deleted posts (I didn’t bother seeking out her responses, as I knew they’d be extremely catty given the circumstances), I actually liked Bulanik as a commenter; she is quite personable.
I’ve known for at least a year of the plagiarism but sat on it and even tried to throw out general hints for commenters to provide links to their sources etc., but she didn’t seem to catch these hints. And, no, I wasn’t stalking her. The very reason she was caught by me is precisely because she wasn’t providing sources despite the fact she was giving extensive detail (dates, names, figures, obscure terms and phrases) in her comments. When links or sources aren’t provided with such a great amount of detail and assertions, I tend to cross reference to make sure what I’m reading is based on fact and not, say, someone’s faulty memory. Banned commenter no_slappz used to write similarly long and unlinked comments mixing fact with inaccuracies and outright lies. I double checked his posts for accuracy, too. My habit of double checking is what caused me to uncover the plagiarism and not because I’m any kind of internet stalker (which is an ad hominem in itself)
I could have posted about it a year ago, but I did not do so because Bulanik is a much loved commenter. She crossed a line with me, however, and I had no reason to continue keeping the lid on the plagiarism – and deleting all her comments will certainly get rid of the evidence of the plagiarism, as it’s not because there aren’t any more of these plagiarized posts, there are indeed many more…I made my point by finding and posting just 2 of them. If I wanted to spend my precious time digging through all her posts, and if I was just the hateful of her, I could provide many more.
I know that I am ‘persona non grata around’ here, I’m certainly no social butterfly and never intended to be. All I ever intended to do was to post my thoughts and opinions; I wasn’t looking to be part of a coffee klatch. And actually I started out just posting my comments without taking too much notice of others or their comments, but was drawn in to things by a commenter who apparently hates to be ignored and who finds Americans to be too rude. I should have maintained my rude stance of mostly ignoring other commenters and none of this would have been uncovered, and everyone would still be happy lol. No one likes a whistle blower; they are almost always made out to be the bad guy in a bad situation. And I see that happening here especially with some of kwamla’s comments.
I will stop posting here — for once and for all — and Bulanik, if she desires too, can return.
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@Fiamma; For what it’s worth, This is so unfortunate. I enjoy your commentary as well. I find it sad that anyone has to leave. I learn much from your commentary as well. I repeat this is just so sad to me.
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@ Fiamma
In my book you are hardly a bad guy. You did not do anything wrong. Anything but.
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Fiamma,
You need to stay…I’ve always enjoyed your comments because it provided another perspective… all the different voices on here is what makes this blog interesting.
As I said, I do understand the big deal of plagiarizing and was not making light of it…and like I told Bulanik, I’m cool if the information comes from somewhere else, as long as quotation marks placed are around it to let me that it’s sourced information.. but I believe Bulanik was coming from a good place and was genuine in her Intent.
I know it’s hard to Not take things personally sometimes but we all have to remember, this is the Internet… we don’t affect each others lives in the real world…this is suppose to be place to come to “get away” without having to use spend money or gas.
I wish you would reconsider and Stay!
we have lost too many valuable voices already…such as DeepChocalate and Jorbia…we need to have dissenting points of view because we are all coming from different places in life..
how will we to learn from each other if people can’t accept the good, bad and the ugly every once in a while.
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Come on now Legion, there are plenty of other Bridges closer to you than Brooklyn 🙂
Yes, as crazy as that sounds, sometimes DeepChocolate actually had some interesting things to say…
I didn’t say she was nice — she was abrasive as H’ll and rubbed people the wrong way, but if you sweep aside the acid dripping from some of her words, she made some relevant points.
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@ Mary
Thank you for your comment. You really are are doll, you know. Not to call you out or anything, but a recent comment of yours where you say, “Please don’t judge me” struck me to my heart. I found it very touching and genuine,
@ abagond
Thank you for your comment.
I’ve never been ‘popular’ here and it seems that popularity is more important than anything else. Honesty doesn’t count for much. I and my foibles (mostly which took the form of attacks on racist trolls) were there for everyone to see. I never denied them or backed away from them. I try to be as forthright as possible — as much as an anonymous internet persona can be, anyway. Folks tend to like what makes them feel good even if it’s disingenuous. Scheming, plotting, ingratiating and manipulating are tactics of those who feel weak / powerless. I’ve tried to live my as straightforward as I possibly can as a Black American woman. ‘Sneaky’ is a despicable trait as far as I’m concerned, it is however, A-OK to some, as long as they find pleasure in the person pulling it off. (To all the snobs here who think they’re so smart: get yourselves in check. You’ve been duped and it wasn’t by me.)
Abagond, as a long-term follower of your blog, I’ll still read it; I just won’t comment. I want others to feel comfortable with the status quo, even if it’s in the face of deceit.
My apologies to those who were unduly shook up by the acknowledgement of the ongoing deceit from a much admired commenter; you can now carry on as you were. I’m over and out.
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Ahhh, I just read your post, Linda. Thank you so much.
I thought I’d entered the Twilight Zone where no matter the circumstances, I was going to be paintedas the evil troll who lied on the Fairy Princess.
Again, thank you, so much, Linda. 😀
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@ Fiamma
This thing will blow over soon. After it shakes out please reconsider returning.
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You’re welcome, Fiamma
I would never hold it against you, you stated how you felt — I’ll be honest, I don’t know and didn’t want to know what started the argument (I’m battle weary — so many small battles on this blog) but I know that you are a straight up commenter and I don’t believe either you or Bulanik had malicious intent.
I don’t want to see either of you go, so like I said, I hope you reconsider.
and for the record, it takes a Lot to offend me …I’m too old and jaded to give a s’it… I’m like a duck, I let things roll off and keep on walking but I will stop for a good fight every once in awhile to keep my claws in good condition.
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@Kiwi,
I remember when that Model Minority Stereotype was started and promoted in the late 1980s. I always thought it was sick and perverted. Most Asian American “activist” groups condemn it, but some other groups (Republican Asian-American committee groups) do like to show the other Republicans how they buy into the Model Minority Stereotype (my Aunt was involved with them in the 80s – 90s in DC) – I joined her some time and met Bob Dole when he was running for president, as well as Elaine Chao when she was Deputy Secretary of Transportation and before she became Secretary of Labor. But the theme was often about how Asian Americans are not like Blacks and Hispanics — they do not need affirmative action quotas and how they get ahead like they are supposed – through education. White Republicans ate up that Model Minority Stereotype right up.
In any case, the Model Minority Stereotype was one invented by white people, and just as dangerous as any of the black stereotypes they dream up and promote (coon, welfare queen, brute or criminal, etc.)
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Legion, I just saw your comment. Thank you. I only wish there were more men like you where I live. Please post more. You have a lot to offer here. Au revoir ~ Fiamma.
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Fiamma, the bad air you may sence about this is really due to my fanning the flames, like I said my cyber blip has no choice, its obligated to behave in cyber internet survival protocals, and Im so sorry you got caught up in this, but as your on going valuable testimony once again demonstrates, its not just a couple of posts , and as you said, some people have been duped……
You also hit the nail on the head by identifying attitudes about Americans, and I jumped on this because Ive been perceiving this and noting malicious behaviour for a couple of years now, aas well as being called a stalker…Im not sure if she called you that…but you know if she did,,but I noted the malicious behaviour towards you
But , beleive me, the cold winds coming down the pike are less directed at you but because of my deep issues reguarding this subject , and i apologise to you for any bad feelings you are getting, although lack of support for you from the beggining, except for Abagond, then Legion kicked in, was noted
But there is some deep ideology conflicts underneath this, and , Im frankly tired of being in the company of people that we are clashing this greatly and I cant use the appropriate language I would like to…Im accostomed to international blog disscusions I can curse..which the lack of on here leaves too many frogs in my throat
Because I know Im pushing the issue , and against the grain on here, because I dont like the uptight attitudes I saw on the bootie dancing threads , Im more than happy to make a trade off…if that really is the problem….but , I actualy feell. your testimony of your awareness of many other plagiarisma by the same person, indicates something much bigger
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@BR:
“Its not you or your fantastic blog, I just dont like keeping company with people who describe passistas as “bootie wiggling, propositioning coitus” ” over sexualised” and try to tie in Baile funk with child prostitution, and where malicious deceptive behaviour is accepted because a person apears to be ideologicly hooked up…Im very disalusioned with the side of the left that accepts lies , half truths , hypocracies where they scream bloody murder at the USA but wont utter a peep at the other side…or even try to champion Fidel or Che…underneath the supposed squables are serious ideological battles going on…and I absolutly hate the right wingers…but im very disapointed in the left wing that is getting uptight and more uptight as time goes by”
I am going to answer this one since you once did accuse me, out of blue by the way, of championing Che and Fidel. 😀
What you should BR is grow up and act your age. You make some valid points here but you ruin it by acting at times like a cry baby. If we are debating something over here, having a heated discussion here, lets have it, but drop that “I am insulted here” tune. I think if we are grown ups we can have a debate, we can even disagree, even argue loudly, but to act like “My feelings have been hurt” is ridicilous.
I understand you are patriotic guy and good for you, so am I, but like so many americans have said: Isn’t it the true american way to be critical about your government?? Since when it became american to be non-critical? If anything, USA and its history, the greatest things in it, have been brought by those individuals and thinkers who have been critics of those in power. The best in USA has been brought by rebels and people who have not obeyed and toed the line.
“But there is some deep ideology conflicts underneath this”
Of course there are. You are an old right wing guy with old school attitudes and I, for example, am from The Left, as you put it. So? There can not be discussion?? No debate? We all should sing hymns of praisal over here?? We all should agree and march on the same beat?? Like in North Korea?? Hell no…
“your testimony of your awareness of many other plagiarisma by the same person, indicates something much bigger”
I understand that you may be old enough to be grown up during the McCarthy years but this? C’mon. “something much bigger”. Ho Hoo. Induendoes, suggestions, hints… That is ridicilous, man. What that “bigger” could be? Invasion of the Body Snatchers perhaps?? International communist conspiracy?? Perhaps FARC??
I won’t get into that Bulanik-BR-Fiamma show here but I think people should really chill out, keep calm and think about few things. People should really grow up.
This is a blog about racism, which is very relevant thing. This is a blog which is highly critical of USA, its racist culture and system. I think if you are looking for a “patriotic” forum, there are those too, but as I have understud this is anotherkind of patriotism over here, like the one those had who signed the constitution of USA. They were, after all, revolutionaires and freethinkers, who opposed the powerful and mighty. It is a kind of patriotism which Martin Luther King showed. All those radicals. All those guys who have gone against the main stream and powerful politicians. What is wrong with that??
I’ve said time and time again that I love the country, I love its culture, music, food, the people, but does that mean that I have to be silent and non critical about the wrongs? Hell no. I am not silent in my own country either. I have publicly accused our government to be organized crime in the guest editorial of the largest daily news paper. Actually it is the largest in the Nordic countries by its circulation. But that does not mean I hate my counrty. I just do not like what my government is doing.
@all:
This is not just in here. It is all over the place. People these days tend to act like little kids. They behave like kids. Their feelings get hurt and they go berserk. It is used in USA, in Europe and elsewhere too. It is used in all sorts of media and on the streets, in cyber space and real life. It is the culture of “getting hurt”. It is one way to control and shut down debate. “You are hurting me bu hu huu”, “You are insulting me bu huhu huu”. “You insult my country/religion/music/clothes/hair/pants/food/height/politics/car” etc.
Islamists use this very effectively. Anything critical is condemned because its insulting against their religioin, supposedly. Bush government used the same method. Many people use it too. It is “either you are with us or against us” mentality. It is a way to terrorise the others to obidience. It is one form of bullying. Just like a kid throws a tandrum, grown ups can do the same. That is what I see here sometimes. I think its funny, irritating but funny.
Now Abagond knows I do not sign at all all of his opinions and policies. He knows I am highly critical of any religion or church. I have had some of my comments deleted for one reason of other. But so what? This is his blog. He can do it anytime he wants. I don’t throw a tandrum over those. I’m not demanding to know why he did it. It is his blog.
I have have been accused and shouted at, this and that, over here during the years I have been commenting here. That is what happens sometimes. If you have anything relevant to say, some people get offended by it. That is natural. Sometimes it happens. If you disagree with me, go a head. I salute your comment. I may not like, I may disagree with it, I might get even angry, but I do not want to shut anyone down or bully them out. Like some one once said: I may not agree with your opinions, but I am ready to die for your right to express them.
You can get mad at the issues, policies, opinions, you can use colorful expressions and words, all that is ok. But when people, who ever they are, start to act like little children whose icecream cone dropped to the ground, I find that extremely funny and ridicilous. Irritating but funny.
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Sam , you are a prime example, and you did it on bootie dancing thread various times , of twisting my words to the opisite meanings and then belittle me. I used to think you really doidnt get what I was saying , now I know its your deceitful puposeful tactic
You tried to make it like I equat bootie dancing with sexuality but it is you who called propositioning for coitus…right above you actualy acuse me of being right wing…that is really sick on your part, I have stated catigoricly I am not and only highlights how you are the one who tries to bully people, especialy by attacking their charactor, into lock step and twist their words…that is really low leval on your part
When I have absolutly made you look like a fool, like on the Hugo Chavez thread, just bringing in truth and facts, that I have learned from actutly living and following these affairs in South America, and you just belittle me, and you have the nerve to call me juvunile…your posts can be the longest as boring as anyone
I have brought as much criticism against racism in the USA, and Brazil, as you, how utterly pompaus and arragont to imply I havent…and that I am right wing, I have pointed out dirt the USA has done in South America, but this lie you just put out is so typical of your style in here
You are actualy a great example of the uptight left Im talking about , instead of a left really looking at the issues that matter, you are uptight about naked bootie dancing wiggling their butts propositioning coitus, and sitting around in your European cofee houses just saying everything about the USA is bad and try to rewrite history…oh but you love books and music….I love Cuban music , too….your psyche is so see throughable
And you have the nerve tosay grow up? You are like the bully who if you dont lock step to their ideas, you go belittle them when your ideas get absolutly slauhtered
No I dont want to have anything to do with your kind of uptight,thinking, like shaved genitilia equals pre pubesence…I like to get away from people who think like that
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What people really dont understand is that the serious anti Americans, the ones who find that everything the USA is doing now is wrong, who are trying to rewrite history like how we got into World War 2 and the atom bombs, and everything after that as equal to the worst things in all history, they look for anti racist blogs as an entry point to run their dogmad one sided drek ideology on Americans…no Im not saying they are communists or islamic terrorists.
I live in a place that has Anti Americanism up th wazoo, grade A,B,C,and D varieties..I see the average people brainwashed in beleiving lies are the truth, I see people making America the big boogey man intheir lives , unable to look at their own faults in the mirror, and I smell the stank quafing the air from a long ways away
What people dont remember is, back in the 60’s, the communists tried to infiltrate the Black Civil Rights Movement, and to thr credit of most of the black leaders, they didnt buy into it.I saw this go down, they also tried to enter the labor movement in America, and were severly put down
Again, Im not saying anyone now is a communist, Im saying that it is just a logical tactic for someone who hates and resents the USA government, that they try to have a diolouge with Americans about it by entering an anti racist American blog…yes, they may actualy be anti racist, which is a good thing to be, but in the discissions, out come one sided , dogmad half triths, distorted facts and looks at the cold war, and constant bashing and put downs about American policy…you can smell them because they absolutly have nothing good to say about America in the cold war…its all negative half truths and lies
Ann, the Vietnamese was a great example of someone who could look at what happened in tne Viet Nam war, not be supportave of USA policy, but give the truth about the way it was, with facts, not Sam’s cookie cutter story
Americans dont really know how to defend themselves from this, they are either the gung ho “America is number one, and fights for democracy”, or they are like deer in the headlights and dont really know the dirt the USA has done but also have no idea of the absolute horror that happened in communist countries, and they dont go to a country in South America to see how the people in the cold war were assisanting people, kidnapping, robbing banks and setting off bombs, really wanted a Che revolution, I have seen interviews with some of them who stated absolutly that
I thank god for the education I have gotten in South America, how anti Americanism works, it has developed my nose in a really special way
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@ All…concerning the… “… Bulanik-BR-Fiamma …& Abagond show …”
As I view it… Its a shame that things should have to be portrayed in this way. But this is the reality people seem to have chosen to act out in. Certainly it doesn’t have to be this way.
But then there are Egos involved. And any time Egos are involved we can all be guaranteed a spectacular and entertaining show!
Good indications of the display of the Ego mentality are declarations of offers to “fight it out ” or “withdraw from the battle (debate)” . Of course this is the only reputable way Egos can remain in tact. Any other way would show weakness or defeat – a loss of carefully constructed reputation.
So my comments are directed to all the main protagonists listed above here…
Is it just possible…., just conceivable that any one of you could have unknowingly misinterpreted this situation? Things are not always what they seem or are perceived to be. Certainly in my experience and particularly when we are having cross-ethinic/cultural, social global cyber-media exchanges.
Much of the bad “feeling” and “emotion” generated from this show stems from what people perceive to be the intent or motivation of the other person. But do you really know what this is or was for sure?
Maybe you do… maybe you don’t ….
I do have to ask this question though: Does it really matter that much? Is it really that important to you?
Consider this….
In the GREATER context of the creative participation, engagement, and contribution of socially excluded peoples experiencing being part of a global communal enterprise gained from association to a welcoming shared internet space….
– Which is a bit more than just being “…part of a coffee klatch…”
If your answer is still YES!….It really is that important to you. Then you have made an obvious choice as to what you believe is more important to you in your life. And you will be bound to act this out accordingly…
I personally believe the Ego is highly overrated…but that is just my own opinion…
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The whole thing about Che and you Sam, is when I pointed out Che was a racist, you called me a liar…I then brought in the facts that proved he was, and when I said Cuba still has racism, you objected and I brought in a proof that many black leaders around the world had signed a document that said Cuba under Fidel’s system still purpetuated racism, Fidel, now get this I didnt say Fidel was a raging racist, im saying communism doent address racism, and it is in affect in Cuba right now…Che is a racist, his statements definitly implicate him,no matter what ( anyone who wants to debate the recent article in Huff post about a schill for Castro and Fidel sais about it, bring it in and Ill rip it to shreds, bottom line being, if Fox news can finaly get this information, its just public reality, only a fool would debate otherwise)
But you never acknowledged that it was the truth, never admited you were a fool for calling me a liar, no, its on to the next half triths and lies, because after all, the truth doesnt matter in your ideolicgical tragectory, only any dirt and charactor bashing and stating dogma and lies to win
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@Fiamma & Bulainik, I wish you guys would truly reconsider being commenters. I will really miss you. Please think about it.
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@BR:
There you go again, man. You really think this blog about making somebody “look fool”?? 😀
If a grown man lives in a foreign land and calls it Candy Shop, praises exposed buttocks and goes on and on and on and on about exposed buttocks and open sexuality of its women, what I should think? Agree with him? Hell no. In my eyes that guy is sexist westener who sees the local women as exotiq objects, just as in Candy Shop. You said that, not me, and then you go nuts when somebody gives an opinion about that?? Really, grow up.
” im saying communism doent address racism”
Not that I am a communist but you are dead wrong there, buddy. Do you know which party was the first american political party to denounce racism officially in its policies?? No you do not. It was the Communist Party of USA. Funny, huh? 😀
“the truth doesnt matter in your ideolicgical tragectory, only any dirt and charactor bashing and stating dogma and lies to win”
I mean, really, grow up. This is not an competition. This is or it should be a dialogue, exchange of ideas and point of views. If you do not like what I say, fair enough. You are not winning any medals here, you are not going to be nro 1. Nobody is going declare you a winner of anything. You are just one commenter on this blog. I might have been wrong, mistaken, but a liar… That is pretty steep, dude.
“if Fox news can finaly get this information, its just public reality, only a fool would debate otherwise”
Now, this here is part of your problem. You think that Fox News is news. You think Fox News is realiable media. Really, dude, grow up fast. When a right wing republican politician got caught trying to lure young men to have sex with him in public toilets, Fox News showed his picture for days with a capital D and did not mention his party once. They just placed D for democrat on the screen. Just an example. The cartoon show Simpsons has more information in it than Fox News will ever have. And this is pretty common knowledge, not just in USA but around the world.
I have no idea what makes you tick, but it seems that you have a real trauma about critical thinking. You really buy into this anti-american poop, that there is somekind of international conspiracy against USA across the world and that behind it there are the commies lurking in the shadows. I can tell you honestly that there are no commies left on this planet to threat USA in any way. In reality, behind the cold war propaganda, there were not enough even back then.
But I find it really interesting that a man of your age and supposed experience with other cultures is so narrow minded and paranoid that he really thinks there is a large looming conspiracy against USA somewhere and that I, for one, or Kwamla, could be a part of it somehow. That is very interesting phenomena psychologically and politically.
I understand that you might feel offended, but if you bring up the wonder of nude buttocks, wonder of the shaking buttocks, wonder of the open sexuality, and keep on going about it comment after comment, surely you know that some one will disagree with that?? When you claim time and time again that a black brazilian woman does not know as much about black brazilian culture as you do, surely you must realise that some one might challenge that claim??
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@ Legion, Happy Memorial Day.
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@ To All, Happy Memorial Day.
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Ha , Legion, a couple of things, like your honest words to Fiamma are refreshing, this ram rodding of her into some box of me her and Bulanik is very telling, and I know you like Bulanik, but arnt playing that game…yeah, I am being stuborn and confrontational, but, Fiamma isnt being like that
Sam , this referance to Ana , again, after I explained it,is getting boring and tired, I said I know about Afro Bahian drum dance, you are twisting my words again, its a nasty trick you do all the time and Im calling you on it, it is pure b s
I have great conceptual disagreements with Brazilian musicians , who just havent had the experiances I have with the top players in Rio or Recife, are you implying I cant disagree with them? Or I cant disagree with her? You sure disagree with me about America…I do back my disagreement with her up, with mad experiance
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@ Legion
We all have Egos. Lets just say its a typical human quality.
One Ego will tend to feel challenged or threatened in the presence of another perceived superior one. It will want to belittle or marginalise the other Ego.
Which Ego is most representative of you here Legion?
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@ Legion, You are right that. Most people just barbeque and drink alcohol. But honoring our fallen soldiers is the real reason for this day. Thanks for sharing the other information that’s something to think about.
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@ Legion, I hope things are getting better for you.
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“BR,
I am still offering Bulanik if she wants to come back, Ill leave to not constrain her , as long as no one mentions my name or bashes my posts”
Linda says,
BR, GTFOH with that Bullsh’t! are you serious!
You ain’t in the position to offer, sh’t…. either you go or you stay…
if you stay, EXPECT to be challenged if you say something someone disagrees with…you are just like the rest of us… you are not special.
I thought this bullsh’t was done with but here you are all by yourself making it the “just me, BR show”
drop it already, d’mn
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@ Bulanik & Fiamma
I do not wish to comment on the plagiarism issues and I myself don’t know the whole story, but I would like to say I enjoy reading posts from the both of you. I will be sorry to see you leave, but understand if you do. Whatever you choose, I wish you both all the best.
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I wanted to add these author to the fold for young readers re: African-American writers. We are enjoying several: Christopher Paul Curtis ( books-Bud Not Buddy, Elijah of Buxton: really lively stories) and Mildred D. Taylor (The Land, Let the Circle Be Unbroken-the Logan family- extraordinary read!)
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I’m not even surprised at this smh. this country is messed up. This is a reason to not give your money away and cook your own meals.
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There is a scandal here in Toronto where the mayor was filmed smoking crack! I haven’t stopped laughing for days!!!! Here is a comical video!
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gypGP2g2lxs&feature=share_email)
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@ Legion; About the five toys that will never be sold again. ‘”Wow”,Nice. That is really disturbing. Misogynist play things. That was pretty interesting.
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@ Herneith; How did your case go? Did everything work out? Curious to know the outcome.
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Thanks Mary. My case is going to a full hearing.
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@Herneith; That’s good to hear. I will be thinking about you in my meditation and prayer time.
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@lifelearner; Those are excellent titles for the young ones. It’s good you read with your young ones.
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@ Legion
It’s très très, not trés trés… 😉
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“è” as in “pen”, not “é” as in… Hey ? Bébé ? Cliché. Yeah, Cliché.
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What, Bulanik is leaving, too ?
Linda, you cracked me up above ^^
Bulanik, please don’t leave. Thanks.
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Humm, I didn’t realize the Big Raleur was around here too…
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Sorry for killing the humor Legion.
That’s because I’m a teacher. Bah.
😉
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@ Mary Burrell
Thanks. I’m cautiously optimistic, one has to be raising AA children in the USA. Whatever I can do to make their futures bright. We will do it. Reading has done it me. 🙂
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^^*for*
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*kiss*
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Peanut, all four at once…. Ouch. My brother looked like a squirrel when he had the same… Do you look okay ?
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@ Peanut
Get well!
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Oi, looks like I’ve been missing out on a lot of drama and discussion. Hope you all didn’t miss me and my useless commentary too much. 😉
Eep, sorry to hear about the wisdom teeth, Peanut. I had to get the upper two removed, so I can sympathize with how unpleasant that experience is (though clearly it was a bit lesser in comparison).
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tehnoun, Welcome. I’ve missed you.
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With the crazy pizza debacle in Sanford and the Cheerio’s commercial featuring the interracial family racism still continues to rear it’s ugly head.
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The criteria for PTSD are being changed, which means PTSD should be diagnosed in those who have suffered racism. If you’d like to read the article, here’s the link:
http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/15855/20130523/dsm5-racism-racial-trauma-post-traumatic-stress-disorder.htm
Although I have suffered some extreme racism for someone of my generation and background, I don’t think I have PTSD. However, it was eye-opening to read the symptoms of generalised anxiety disorder. I do wonder if the constant racism I faced growing up contributed to the anxiety I suffer from today.
Does anyone else feel the racism they’ve experienced has led to problems or even a disorder?
@ Peanut
Hope you’re feeling better soon. At least it seems they didn’t give you painkillers that made you really ill! I had that when I got mine out and it wasn’t fun!
@ tehnoun
Welcome back.
@ mary burrell
I wasn’t surprised with the pizza thing. I regularly read about servers naming customers on receipts and cups as `lady ch*nky eyes’ and `ching chong’, so wasn’t all that shocking to hear some other guy likes to make fun of Black people.
The Cheerios thing, though… Although I’m not part Black, it was nice to finally see a family similar to mine. A family shown as perfectly normal. The little girl is adorable. It’s sad that so many people have a problem with her and the family portrayed. Just goes to show that all those people who claim inter-racial marriage and mixed children will `cure racism’ don’t know what they’re talking about.
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In one of threads I commented in, I mentioned a project I organized in my school in 2010, before the Soccer World Cup in South Africa. I was looking for info on the net to help my friend Shaqir who came to do the workshops at our school then but lost his job as a tour guide in Cape Town in between (after the World Cup was over). He needed a letter of recommendation and I wanted to find links to articles that were made during his stay at my school.
While looking for the articles I came across this, which I think some of you might be interested to watch. That’s from when he still had his job as a Tour Guide.
In the second, he talks about the period of slavery and Apartheid.
Enjoy.
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Check me out on tumblr
http://thesatanforce.tumblr.com/
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Abagond,
I have a suggestion for a future post. I have been thinking a lot of the song “Stoned Soul Picnic” and i can’t figure out which version i like best–the 5th Dimension one or the Laura Nyro one.
And besides that–i could never piece together the meaning of the lyrics.
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@ Legion
Good question. I need to sort that out.
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@ satanforce
Thanks for the heads up!
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Chinese in Africa from Al-Jazeera. Check it out.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz0bhb5m3pQ&feature=player_embedded)
WHAT CASE!!!????
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I wonder what it is that they call “muffins”, because it sure isn’t American type muffin. Fish and rice in Senegal is this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=thiébou+dieune+recette&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PJuwUaGYL4zE4AOi0oCADw&ved=0CEUQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=780
The “national dish” you can say.
Interesting video.
One big difference between the Chinese and the Europeans in their attitude with Africa: they learn the languages (in Cameroon too I was told). The Europeans imposed theirs.
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After watching that video I don’t really see a great deal of difference between the Europeans and the Chinese approach to colonisation. Both are exploiting the poorer countries economies for their own ends and not putting anything back in.
How is any of what China is doing going to benefit African economies in the long term?
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I really do not want to sound polemical on this but an honest comparison is necessary.
Religion is not involved.
The military is not involved.
Languages (cultures) are not imposed.
They are “doing business”, also striving to give their children a better life.
The French (that’s who I know best about) in Africa NEVER acted the way the Chinese do. They never, for instance, lived in the same districts and did business in the same places. They came to impose their way of life, their vision of things, in addition to so-called business (which was not business but pure exploitation). Here I see Chinese people working, not imposing work on others for their benefit.
It may change (maybe it has already), but so far this is what I have heard about the Chinese in Africa (from Africans themselves).
Plus, the “flooding” of Chinese goods is world-wide, not just in Africa, it *seems* to me.
If the African states concerned with doing business with the Chinese want them to stop coming, they can impose stricter visa/emigration rules. But they need the Chinese and other countries to do business with them.
Gbagbo in Ivory Coast was taken away from power because he was doing just that (that’s not the “official” story of course, which says he supported “massacres”): giving markets to the Chinese, the Brazilians and a few others that the French used to dominate completely. He paid the hard price for it.
Senegal is a country were “trade” is part of the culture. Senegalese people are excellent tradesmen (and spend a lot of time talking, bargaining, enquiring about how your family is doing, are never on time, etc… as the woman pointed to, but not in a scornful manner, I found, contrary to the way a typical French person there would).
I’m not really worried about them and the Chinese. I would be more worried about the increasing “buying” of Senegal by the United Arab Emirates people (especially the coasts), who are also “selling” their version of Islam, which is absolutely not the same as the Senegalese’s who are extremely pious in general.
It really makes me laugh when I hear and read westerners and the French in particular “complaining” about China in Africa ! Really ? Can we talk about Niger and Mali and Cameroon and the rest ? The so-called “Françafrique”…
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I hadn’t looked at the second of the video yet.
Wade offering the “KEY TO THE GATE” to the Chinese president ? I guess the Chinese don’t have to colonize much, right ? Ultra-liberalism does the job. The Chinese are basically playing the capitalist game as it is “supposed” to be played.
“Yellow commerce” ? Oh my…
What the Senegalese man says is wrongly translated. It reads as if the Chinese came and intruded in the district to do trade, but what I hear is that Senegalese small trade people came in the district where there are “more than 100 Chinese shops” (and not 200, but yes, it’s roughly the same) and got settled with their ambulatory commerce in front of the shops (which is what they also explain in the first part of the video) and that created tensions, because the Senegalese set up their commerce while blocking the Chinese’s view, basically.
Also, he says there were tensions “between residents”, which not the same as what the translation says.
This happens all over Africa, where small trade people settle on the sidewalks and regularly literally get kicked out by police, because “they tarnish the image of the district”…
The word “crise” is translated by a whole sentence that includes “local problems”, to point to and emphasize the problems “between people”.
Accusing the Chinese of producing “bad quality” is the usual refrain, everywhere around the world… But no one says why it is so. The Chinese can produce very good quality… if they are asked to. The specifications they get from foreign demand is not quality, it’s cheapness. Period.
The Chinese (the people) are doing what can help them live, like everyone else, they are not doing it “on purpose” to destroy others’ economies.
If we want to accuse someone here, it’s the international institutions like the World Bank and the IMF we should target. They are the ones promoting this type of economy.
Anyway, very soon Africa will participate, because it is going to be where work is gonna be cheapest. Even Bengladesh is starting to be deemed “too expensive” !!
Again, Senegal is a very small country, so it’s not easy for them. It’s even worse when your president hands the “key” willingly !
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http://www.bdlive.co.za/world/africa/2013/03/13/africa-warned-of-china-exploitation
The Chinese are buying raw goods, minerals , and not buying manufactured goods. The same thing is happening in Brazil , and, they dump cheap goods back on the market, the Chinese bikinis are horrible..but , in my state, they talk about manufacturing shoes and selling them to USA markets
Even on Lincoln Rd , the first two shops are huge stores full of cheap Chineses made clothes that break easily.
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The Chinese make most of their things (I don’t the exact vocabulary) on order under specifications from mostly Western firms.
If they made only “cheap” stuff that break and don’t work, Apple (for instance, but you also have GE, Alstom, and basically everyone making stuff there) wouldn’t have factories there. I guess.
About this video, it is interesting to notice that what some the Senegalese interviewed say about the Chinese migrants is the same as what some of the French say about Senegalese migrants in France. Peoples are precipitated against each other for the good of those who don’t live there and don’t work there. It’s apparently good for business…
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This is sad. http://blackgirllonghair.com/2013/06/boyfriend-of-popular-natural-hair-blogger-cipriana-brutally-attacked-in-possible-new-york-hate-crime/
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florida? personally i’d say panama city
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KW a trip too just park your little boat from who knows where like it’s a 92 mustang at the curb
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Ed Snowden – traitor or patriot?
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@ Legion
I figure this is the best place to address this. I lost my temper with DKB for a few different reasons not all aimed at him. I guess I am getting annoyed with the whining, the your not black enough rhetoric, blacks are weak, seeking white approval arguments etc. My list could go on but I will stop there. It is disheartening to read that the dividing agent are actual people who I presume to be black.
I have to step back from that because those type of people I really consider a bit too extreme for my taste.
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@mstoogood4yall: I saw that on her blog urban bush babes. Those cowards. And the cops dragging their asses. And not trying to pursue the perpetrators of this crime. This is just so shameful. The cops are not doing their jobs.
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it is the typewriter of the illiterate that is the issue at hand
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@ Peanut
I am here. What is it?
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@ Peanut
That stuff never bothered B.R. or Thad. Don’t worry about it.
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Sadly–i think it is time for Madiba’s family to just let him go.
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eh… up on tumblr, for some reason, trying to provide a more unified policy statement platform, up on sotomeyor too is he black or a dominican or something? that is something else…
-tc
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anybody? befor i ask sotomeyor, thomas if he’s black?
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ooh a black woman is coming to see me right now it takes a real man… call me aliar or something
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@ hoebeprunelle; Do you mean Mandella. He is up in age. I am always thinking I will turn on the television or set or goggle news and see the news of his passing. We shall see. He’s quite ill.
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OOPs, @ Phoebepruenell: Sorry Sister my computer is acting crazy.
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Jefe: About Ed Snowden. The whistleblower I don’t know. Maybe it’s good he is informing us about what’s going on. I am on the fence about him.
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OK that video of Emmy Lou Harris and those other women singing that “Lullaby” that King posted above on Mon 11 of Feb 2013 at 3:48:15
Is CREEPY AS HELL!
Watch them sing it and listen closely to the lyrics which sound incredibly incestuous/pedophilic.
Here is the altered version of the lyrics:
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Your momma’s gone away and your daddy’s gonna stay
Didn’t leave nobody, but the baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Everybody’s gone in the cotton and the corn
Didn’t leave nobody, but the baby
You’re a sweet little baby (you’re a sweet little baby)
You’re a sweet little baby (you’re a sweet little baby)
Honey and the rock and the sugar don’t stop
Gonna bring a bottle to the baby
Don’t you weep pretty baby (don’t you weep pretty baby)
Don’t you weep pretty baby (don’t you weep pretty baby)
She’s long gone with her red shoes on
Gonna need another lovin’ baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
You and me and the devil makes three
Don’t need no other lovin’ baby
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Go to sleep you little baby (go to sleep you little baby)
Come and lay your bones on the alabaster stones and be my ever lovin’ baby
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@ Why: Did you see the movie O Brother Where Art Thou? They sang that song in the film.
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It has some dark and somewhat disturbing lyrics.
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I saw a clip of it and thought it was creepy as hell then too.
Really bizarre song.
“Honey and the rock and the sugar don’t stop
Gonna bring a bottle to the baby…
You and me and the devil makes three
Don’t need no other lovin’ baby….
Come and lay your bones on the alabaster stones and be my ever lovin’ baby”
What the heck?!
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@Mary, yes–i am talking about Mandela..
I think he has been ready to go for a long time now, but he can’t because his family is not ready.
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@phoebeprunelle: I agree with you.
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@ Peanut
“do my comments go overboard sometimes?? I feel like I take over threads sometimes”—No they are not. It is good you are more open about commenting. Believe it or not your comments often times mimic my own thoughts. I am not as eloquent as you and it is nice that you are open about speaking as to not only get your voice out but mine as well (in a sense).
In other news:
I have as of today decided to go natural. I have been wanting to take this jump for sometime now and today I will just do it. I am so excited.
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Big Chop. A part of me wants to shave my head down and begin again.
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@ sharina
Congrats. I’m transitioning right now I’m 4 months post. Good luck with whatever u choose if its the big chop or not. I plan to transition then do a little chop lol, but I do trim my ends almost every month. here’s a website for tips on transitioning http://napturallycurly.com/transitioning-from-relaxed-to-natural-hair/dos-and-donts-of-transitioning/
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here’s some vids on this website for styles after the big chop http://www.curlynikki.com/2010/03/looking-feminine-after-big-chop.html
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@ Peanut and Mstoogood4yall
Thanks. So far I am trying out the products mentioned on urbanbushbabes.com, but I am open to any suggestions you have.
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@ sharina
It took me a while to find products that work for my hair and i’m still learning. I like to use beemine hair products, they kinda expensive but for my dry hair it is a must. I also heard kinky curly not today is good but haven’t tried it myself. best of luck to u and ur hair.
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this should be interesting!
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message sent
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@ jefe
Holy hell, your life really calls into question the Model Minority stereotype. Growing up, I always had the impression that Asians had been accepted through their education, money (ignoring higher living costs), and hard work. Turns out it’s just a lie by conservatives to pat themselves on the back for being “liberal” while continuing to practice racism against blacks, Hispanics, and even Asians.
Interestingly, Most Asian-American voters have become Democrat since 2000. I wonder if the socio-political scene will become more hostile for Asians now that the Republicans know that Asian-Americans by and large don’t buy into their model minority myth anymore. My parents are Republican, now uncommon among Asians, and I think that is a huge symptom of their belief in the model minority myth. My theory is that because the stereotype is not applied to blacks or Hispanics, they have always been overwhelmingly Democrat (since the 60s). For the same reason, Asians used to be Republican, and I think the main reason was their thinking they had been accepted into the mainstream. Yes, I do believe America’s government leans right and is dominated by racist conservatives, like Abagond said.
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I think the reason they voted Republican at the time, or still, is because the Repubs always talk about lowering taxes, which I don’t know if they actually do or not. But they seem to promise that a lot.
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@ Abagond: HAPPY FATHER”S DAY.
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Happy fathers day to all the fathers past future and present. Happy father’s day to you abagond.
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@ Peanut
dam, it seems every holiday u wish abagond get laid lol. Oh well I guess if I ain’t getting none somebody else might as well. I guess besides the food that is the next best thing.
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@ Peanut, Mary, Ms Good
Thanks!
@ American fathers
Happy Father’s Day.
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“being a “good girl,” in school and college has gotten me nowhere…”
*******
Actually, being WISE and keeping your legs closed has gotten you a LOT – though you may be presently too naive to fully realize your *blessings.*
Things that are worthwhile are seldom easy. Good luck with your interview!
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@ Peanut
I agree with Matari: you are probably too young to see it now, but you are avoiding tons of terrible choices.
Good luck on your interview!
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@ peanut
“like a week or so before my period I always get so frisky
I do too, but i’m also get annoyed at everything. peanut I know its hard to wait, I know i’m younger than u, but I look at ppl who didn’t and they sometimes wish they had. I get confused too, I see shows where ppl waited until marriage and couldn’t have sex , or they have sex and realize their partner isn’t compatible sexually. A part of me wants to wait because i’d avoid all the baggage that comes with sex, the other part of me is like what if I wait till marriage and what if my man has a low sex drive and don’t know what he doin. Or what if I never get married. I guess I shouldn’t worry about it now because i’m young and live with my parents lol. when I move out I don’t know what I’d do lol
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^ girl u don’t have to worry about pleasing him or not, u make him wait long enough and I bet he wouldn’t care he’d be excited to be getting any. I think its easier for men to get pleasure than women, because women have to be hella stimulated and have the right spots *touched,stroked whatever the fk they call it lol, Whereas men don’t I don’t think. I don’t know
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http://africansweetheart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/relationships-different-faces-of.html#.UcETquvgLs1
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Good luck Peanut… and for what it’s worth, I’m with Matari and Abagond. It’s not your age, it’s your circumstance. You won’t be sorry if you wait for the right one.
Legion, how have you been keeping?
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Legion
Right, I go by email address.
In most cases deletion is simple. In Bulanik’s case she had over 3,000 comments. WordPress is not set up to remove them all in one swipe. You can only delete 20 comments at a time. And even when I did all that, there are STILL some of her comments left, which I am currently tracking down.
Also, in her case, she was one of the main commenter on many threads. Removing her comments makes those threads much harder to follow. So, as a moderator I did not WANT to delete them. I was hoping things would shake out differently and she would change her mind, so I held off for a while. I also wanted to look into the plagiarism thing before I “destroyed the evidence”.
Every now and then a commenter will ask me to wipe out all their comments. I do not like doing it – it is like taking an ice pick to my blog – but I will do it.
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@ Kiwi
Right. It has the basics. I need to update it. Also, in order to catch trolls, I do not make all moderated words public.
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@ All those who consoled me about my father’s situation and sent prayers his way
I want to thank you again and let you know he may be on the way up. He had a chance meeting with a fellow immigrant who wanted to hire him. He now has a job that pays enough he doesn’t have to work three of them. It may also mean that I do not have to wait another two years before I see my parents again. I am nervous and excited, but still feel afraid to allow myself to be happy as so many good things have either been snatched away from him or have turned sour. I’m scared I will curse the whole thing if I smile about it.
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Ohio school bans afro puffs and braids:
http://living.msn.com/family-parenting/the-family-room-blog-post?post=d04c8e5a-0910-4343-8d5f-d8c6cce0a24e
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Let’s try my name this way and see if it gets through moderation…
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Maybe I will just go by this from now on.
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Testing a new avatar…
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@Iris: I am still think and praying for you.
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@ Legion: How are you this evening Sir? I hope you are doing better.
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Iris,
Congrats to your father… hope it all works out for the Best.
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Hmmm., a strategy
1. Go to a website whose views I oppose
2. Pretend to be a supporter of those views
3. Purposely fill comments section with plagiarized views (as I have no original views on the matter )
4. Create another account that is personality that opposes me.
5.Use the new personality demonstrate that the old personality is a plagiarist
6. Request to have ALL 3000 of post deleted, thus neutering the comment section, and robbing important discussions of their context
7. Profit.
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Southern fried food doyenne Paula Deen was fired by the Food Network. Well I knew that was coming, I knew she was apologize profusely and swear she was not a racist. Blah,blah, blah. When I heard about this I was a little disappointed I thought she was a little better than this. But I am not surprised. She is a woman of a certain age from the deep south, so this type of mindset is ingrained in her. Maybe she will take some type of sensitivity training. Maybe she truly is sorry form her insensitive racist remarks. The George Zimmerman trial is getting ready to start. I will be plugged into that. God only knows the outcome of that. And because I am so plugged into pop culture. Kim Kardashian and Kanye have named their precious little bundle North. “Wow”. They named their child after a direction. Oh well, that’s Kim and Kanye for you. Happy Summer Solitice to everyone.
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Dang, *I knew she would apologize profusely*
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@ mary burrell
I haven’t really read the story but just heard about it briefly on the radio. Do you know how long ago was it that she dropped the n-word. Was this relatively recent?
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@ King: I heard about this last year I want to say. Because she was being sued. I put it to the back of my mind. When I first heard of her the law suit I thought it was just a disgruntled employee. But since it came back into the news this week and she admitted to using the offensive word. But tell me something KIng, If Black people continue to use this offensive word and whites use it. Black people get offended. Here’s a thought call me crazy,But why continue to get offended. This is just crazy to me. It is never OK. I don’t care about the spelling. That is just so ignorant to me. Trying to explain why it’s Ok. We need to have a funeral for this and many other words in our jargon. That’s just my two cents.
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I am interested in the Bill Duke documentary “Dark Girls being aired on OWN Network on Sunday.
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I have never heard of Sargent Willie Pete before,I knew about this Tommy Sotomayor character. Where does this hatred for black women come from? Do these men feel this way about their own mothers and grandmothers aunts, and other black women in their families? I wonder about LIL Wayne and all the other rappers who spew their black woman hating misogynistic filth. Just sad. I pray for my people daily. I understand other cultures hating us, but when the hatred is in our own community I am truly sad.
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Whereas, I get that there may be some difference in context of use, I still agree with you 100% that EVERYBODY should stop using it, regardless of race. The self-justifyigng Orwellian doublespeak needs to stop in the Black community about the word. There is NO good reason for using it.
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@Mary–
the anti-Black women rhetoric has been online for the past 15 years now. I was in high school when i first encountered it on collegeclub.com (a site no longer in existence)…
1.I believe a lot of it is coming from whites pretending to be Black men
2. Those who are in fact Black men like Sotomayor is being paid to do it
3.Sgt. Wille Pete is IMO fishing for Black booty that he wouldn’t ordinarily get being a mixed race guy–basically trying to guilt trip Black women into giving him some
4. it is part of the Manosphere philosophy–men who are considered below the Beta male who blame life’s problems (e.g. lack of getting female attention because they are socially awkward) onto Black women..
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Peanut,
“Just like the Black man went to vegan meet up to get with the white woman”
– Where in the world did you get the idea he “went to a vegan meet-up”?!
” Kim Kardashian and Kanye have named their precious little bundle North. “Wow”. They named their child after a direction.”
– Her name will be North West. 😉
PS: I don’t know who Paula Deen is, but I don’t think anyone should get fired from their job for anything they say off clocked-in hours. If they say it during clocked-in hours, or on a TV show, that’s different. But on their own time? Nah.
Freedom of speech.
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Hmm…… Manosphere, I never heard of this term until one commenter brought it up. So this explains this ant-black woman rhetoric madness. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Sotomayor and his ilk are being paid by white people. I guess White supremacy is alive and well. It all makes sense now.
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@phoebeprunelle: Thanx for the enlightenment. Anti-black woman rhetoric, manosphere. New internet terms for me to learn.
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@ phobeprunell: It makes sense that these would be white men on the internet doing this.
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The White branch of the Manosphere is not attacking Black women, they are attacking White women and advising men to “go their own way” and be celibate – that’s the MGTOW branch of the Manosphere, OR to ex-pat to Asia or South America, sometimes even Africa, to find a wife who has not been what they call “brainwashed by Feminism”.
The Black branch of the Manosphere are the ones who are attacking Black women.
Basically they are all a bunch of men who hate Feminism and the fact that women are now allowed to choose our own course in life.
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@ Why: Well whoever it is black men or whitemen,it’s all effed up.
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@Mary
And that’s the point!
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It certainly is more plausible for whites who have everything to win if Black men and Black women offline perceive their is an actual “gender war” between us.
I say whites because it is not wise to exclude white women from this mix. . .some have created entire personal web pages lecturing to Black women about why they are better mates for Black men.
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“well you mentioned that he met her and she was a vegan but forgive me not having what you said word for word as it was taken down, but you do get the point that he could have LEFT his neighborhood to meet a Black woman, that was the point”
Actually – no, and no.
She was not a vegan. He was the one that claimed to be vegan when she informed him that she was a lacto-vegetarian.
He did leave his neighborhood to find Black women. He even left his country and went to Canada and Latin American to meet them!
Again, things did not work out. A few of those women had kids. A few of those women didn’t like him as much as he liked them, and a few he didn’t like so much.
Like I said, it seems to be a jungle out there in the dating world. People say its very hard to meet someone who has all of your requirements. And if you do meet someone who makes the grade, there is no guarantee they will be as equally interested in you as you are them. In fact, it is likely they may not be.
Either people are too picky or what – I don’t know. But it seems to be very difficult for like-minded individuals to be mutually attracted to one another, fall in love, and get married these days.
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Abagond,
Thank you for creating this type of blog format. In all of my years online I haven’t seen a blog or even a message board quite like it. I’m sure your efforts are appreciated by many even if at first it doesn’t seem all that apparent.
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He did leave his neighborhood to find Black women. He even left his country and went to Canada and Latin American to meet them!
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Yeah, but you failed to mention that is your original post on the topic. What you did mention was something to the effect that all the Black women in his neighborhood were either too young, too unattractive, were lesbians or that they already had children….
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“Yeah, but you failed to mention that is your original post on the topic. What you did mention was something to the effect that all the Black women in his neighborhood were either too young, too unattractive, were lesbians or that they already had children…”
I also mentioned the black women who were not interested in him for anything serious because he was not up to their level educationally or socio-economically.
I also mentioned his first choice has always been black women and he has never found white women to be particularly attractive.
The women he is with now is suffering from an inferiority complex because she knows this.
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Guys, I hope you don’t mind me ranting about something that’s really been pissing me off lately: the Far Right’s obsession with r/K Selection Theory.
The story begins with a J. P. Rushton, a racist masquerading as a scientist, and his book: Race, Evolution, and Behavior. Within said text, he makes a link between race, intelligence, and r/K selection. Here’s how it goes:
Step One, define Jargon poorly: “r selection strategists produce a large amount of offspring with low “parental investment” and rely upon overwhelming competitors with sheer numbers. K selection strategists produce a small amount of offspring with high “parental investment” and rely upon cooperation to beat out competitors.
Step Two, make a facile connection between r/K and intelligence: “Chimps are smarter than panthers, which are smarter than rabbits, which are smarter than frogs, which are smarter than oysters. Oysters are heavy r selection strategists, Chimps are heavy K selection strategists”
Step Three, apply Steps One and Two to different Races and profit: “The population of Sub-Saharan Africans and other Mud-people grows faster than the population of Caucasoids. Therefore, they are r strategists while Nordics are K strategists. Consequently, they are less intelligent, more violent, and more promiscuous. In fact, r/K selection explains exactly why all stereotypes are true”
Oh Far Right wingbats, the only science you can do is bad science.
Why Step One is done poorly: First of all, “parental investment” is a poor choice of words and makes the wrong implications about terrible mothers and absentee fathers, which have nothing to do with it (Parenting is a learned skill, not genetic or instinctual, especially for more intelligent species. A hand raised Panda won’t know what to do with her little bundle of fur). r/K selection is more closely related to the size of the litter and the time required for offspring to reach adulthood. Secondly, r/K selection has less to do with competition, and more to do with a species’s ecological niche. r strategists tend to be prey species: grass, rodents, insects, and young reptiles. K strategists tend to be predators or large game: whales, wolves, panthers, ungulates. There are exceptions and species which can’t be well defined, which leads me to part three: a species r/K selection strategy is a relative to that of other species. Sub-species tend to use the same strategy, as if humans were sub-species in the first place.
Why Step Two is Facile in One Word: Cephalopods. There are approximately 800 species in all, and all of them make this connection break into a million pieces. They are all clever little, and not-so-little, creatures that some evolutionary biologist believe will take our place as Earth’s dominant species. They are also heavy r strategist. Females lay hundreds, if not thousands of eggs, but don’t invest in the health and safety of her offspring; she’s too busy being dead. And before some genius says “they are just exceptions”, I retort: 800+ species isn’t just an exception.
Why Step Three is a Fractal Fail: Firstly, Humans, even the Black ones like myself, have an average litter size of one, and require 18 years to reach sexual maturity (25 years for mental maturity). As far as r/K selection goes, we’re about as K as possible, possibly even more so than humpback whales. Now, can people have several children? Yes, but those children are still, usually, born one at a time and mature at a painfully slow rate, ergo they are still K strategists.
Secondly, this pseudoscience ignores the economic, technological, and social impetus behind the low population growth rate of “Caucasoids” and the population explosion in Africa. As the West moved away from agriculture and into the industrial age, the carrying capacity increased and the population grew as food became more plentiful and medicine more effective. This fostered the slow transition into a service based, highly skilled economy. This also meant that children go to school for several years before learning the skills so they can support themselves. Unlike before when more children meant more hands to work the field, a large number of children is an economic liability. The invention of easy-to-use contraceptives like latex condoms and The Pill allowed people to have sex without the possibility of a pregnancy. These inventions paved the way for the Sexual Revolution which deconstructed post-Victorian norms of sexual behavior and made the radical claim that sex is fun. Of course, 18+ years of parental responsibility is as far removed from fun as possible, so the result is a society in which “Caucasoids” can have half a dozen sexual partners, but only one or two children. Note that the drive to have sex and reproduce is still the same, if not stronger, hence the porn (which is, concerning biology and r/K selection, all that really matters).
Africa is only just beginning to experience the advantages of industry and the birth rate is, on average, going down. The population isn’t growing because more babies are being born, but because less people are dying. Even so, many Tropical Africans are still farmer, which incentives having several children, but as the infrastructure improves, and energy becomes more affordably, they will automate the farming process just like the West and China and children will become an economic liability. Unlike the West, contraceptives aren’t readily available or widely used thanks to the influence of the Catholic Church (which, among other things, makes the HIV pandemic worse in Catholic Africa). All of the factors are a recipe for explosive population growth, and since Africa has yet to fully apply industry to its agricultural economy it is nowhere near the carrying capacity. The specter of overpopulation is equally fallacious, assuming we can replace fossil fuels (we probably will, necessity is the mother of invention).
Just needed this off my chest. Abagond has written plenty of posts busting the myth of supposedly less violent White people.
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I just read Nelson Mandela”s medical condition has gotten worse. I feel the obituaries are coming soon.
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@ mary so what happened to jorbia? I just remember reading some of her comments and it felt like she was always going on about how American women are this and that and where she is from the women are better etc.
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@Mstoogood4yall: There was a back and forth negative commentary between Jorbia and commenter the Alchemist. Jorbia was very angry and felt that Abagond should have stopped from the commentary she used. She was very Angry with Abagond and left as a commenter. I thought she brought a different perspective and some of the things she discussed were what we just got through discussing on the thread. But the tone of her comments were very classist and elitist. Like she was above certain socio-economic people who were not as fortunate as her. She was a bit of a Black snob. Which is the worst to me. If I had a way to be financially stable and successful in life, I would help another sister try to come up. Mentor unwed mothers. But all she did was throw poor black people under the bus, and talk about how ghetto they were. She had her *ish* together she was smart and articulate. I thought that was awesome. But to me it was ugly how she came across. Matari, and Kwamla, tried to tell her this. But she wasn’t having it. She really made some of the brothers angry. I don’t think we all need to be in lock step with our commentary. We all come from different places. But she talked about her white boyfriend and her material successes, which is cool. But she was kind of nasty to me and snobby.
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^what about deepkchocolate where’d she go
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Mstoogood4yall: Oh Jesus, Don’t conquer up that one. She was angry with Abagond. I think she left.as well.
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^ lol all these angry women mad at abagond. Oh well at least they left and didn’t have to be banned like churchs lol.
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@ Mstoogood44yall: Actually, Alchemist called Jorbia out on her mess. Go to the Is Obama A Rented Negro thread. It was on that thread you can see what happened.
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If his first choice was a Black woman–then he would have no problem getting with one.
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phoebeprunelle
I also mentioned his first choice has always been black women and he has never found white women to be particularly attractive.
If his first choice was a Black woman–then he would have no problem getting with one.
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The attractve black women over the age of 23 in his neighborhood all had kids. So strike that.
The ones without kids were unattractive or too young for him. So strike that.
Outside his neighborhood the Black women he was attracted to were not attracted to him for more than a fling because he did not meet their socio-economic criteria. So strike that.
Finally he met an attractive Black woman of his same age range who was attracted to him back, but she was in a foreign country. He went to visit her nd turns out she had a kid too. So strike that.
His problem is that he was basically from the ghetto but was not “ghetto” himself. He did go to college but then got injured and could not finish so no degree.
That means the single, childless and physically attractive college educated Black women with high paying jobs that he was attracted to saw him as beneath them and hence not long-term relationship material.
The Black women that DID see him as long-term relationship material had kids.
He was very active in the New York “intellectual” Afro-centric scene and while there were attractive Black women involved with that – they were either already taken OR they were baby mamas.
He went after a few only to find that they were Afro-centric lesbians.
Finally he throw in the towel and figured he’d give it a go with an attractive Afro-centric woman even though she already had a kid, but it didn’t work out because he really doesn’t want to raise some other man’s child.
Which leads him into my next topic which Abagond deleted the comments about over on the other thread for being “off topic”…..
BABY MAMAS!!!
If a man is not your RESPONSIBLE HUSBAND first, then why on earth would you expect him to be a RESPONSIBLE FATHER to your child later?
Ladies, you are the GATEKEEPERS OF YOUR SACRED WOMBS!
You must test, and vet, and filter any many who seeks entry to that sacred space.
When he passes your test and makes it through the filtering process, he is husband material. Next step: MARRIAGE.
THEN you have the kids.
Got it?
This is a tried and true method passed down through countless generations for thousands of years.
You cannot lay up with any ol’ dude and then expect that he is going to “man up” and take responsibility for the resultant offspring.
Ain’t gonna happen!
What you ALSO cannot expect is that some “nice guy” a few years later is going to want to become the “father figure” to another man’s Junior.
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^Sounds like a bunch of stereotypes about Black women to discredit them.
You never disclosed your race or sex (at least i don’t think you have) and speaking in second person–well i won’t complete my thought.
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@ phoebeprunelle, I think why is a white woman or a white man. I was curious about that as well.
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Well on seconds thought–i will complete my thought–your rhetoric sounds very familiar, as though i have read it dozens of time on a well known manosphere site. The difference is that save a few words and scenarios, the “logic” is recycled. Not original at all…a hybrid if you will.
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@Mary–if i had to guess, Why is neither.
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@ phoebeprunelle: The reason I say they are white is because of a question about Black history being taught in HBU”s that kind of struck me as odd. My antennae kind of went up. I thought they were Black and got to comfortable with them. Although, this blog is for everyone. I am feeling some kind of way about talking about black culture issues with whites. I just feel that way. Because I never know their agenda.
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^ yeah I wondered that too. I thought she was a ww for a sec but most ww on here don’t say things about bw and wm being together and calling out what ww do. Then at the same time she also said some things that ww say when we discuss racism, she pulled out the ole white women deal with xyz. So idk what she is she could be biracial for all I know or Asian or even black.
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phoebeprunelle
Well on seconds thought–i will complete my thought–your rhetoric sounds very familiar, as though i have read it dozens of time on a well known manosphere site. The difference is that save a few words and scenarios, the “logic” is recycled. Not original at all…a hybrid if you will.
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No, its not an original piece. Its one mans’ experience. One that he said was common in the area he grew up.
He’s stuck between a rock and a hard place because most of his brothers and cousins are “baby daddies” (but not husbands). He and his sister were two out of the bunch that consciously chose not to go down that route and both of them are without “equal” partners today.
Logic it would have it that he should just “man up” and marry a baby mama and logic would have it that his sister should just accept her lot in life and become a baby mama.
They both broke out of that cycle. Not in small part due to their (single) mothers (married) aunt who practically raised them along with her husband, to provide those two with a model of a functional family life.
The other siblings weren’t so lucky and they stayed the course with their single mother and they ended up becoming single parents themselves.
Original story? Hardly.
Its quite common in this country and pretty much even culturally accepted these days.
I don’t accept it. I find it all shameful. Extremely shameful.
Its not an exclusive “Black story” either.
The out of wedlock birthrate amongst White and Latino Americans is too damn high also.
Seems the Asians are the only ones with some dignity and sense of family left.
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@ Why
“Seems the Asians are the only ones with some dignity and sense of family left.”—I would agree with that except I know some Asians that are single parents.
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Furthermore It seems you find it too easy to pinpoint the lifestyle of groups based on what you believe or those darn stats but….guess what? each individuals is just that an individuals, so i would not be so quick as to say what all or most Asians do. Or any other ethnic group for that matter.
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“I would agree with that except I know some Asians that are single parents.”
Oh, so do I. But their numbers are considerably less.
In fact, I just did a quick review in my mind and at least 50% of all the parents I know (and I know a lot of parents), are in fact, single parents! They are either divorced or never-married single parents.
Can you believe that?! At least 50%?!?!
And my social circles span all the socio-economic classes in this country, minus the celebrity class, of course.
I want to get to the bottom of this.
Why is single parenting so prevalent and so accepted as “normal” in this country?
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I’m sticking to what i am saying–i have read that tired storyline dozens of times on the internet.
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My 2 Cents
i heard brazil was racist they had a music video mockin dark skin women. like alot of other countries with dark skin ppl they treat them different and worship lighter skin. i was shocked to learn blacks weren;t the only ones that deal with light vs dark skin issues.i sometimes see posts where cubans and other light skin latinos will say harsh things about brazilians,dominicans,and puerto ricans.
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Colorism is also very prevalant in the South Asian communities as well.
Fair & Lovely and Fair & Handsome skin lightening creams are huge sellers.
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@ Sharina, Those are wise words. I had to learn this from the Asians are a Model Minority stereotype thread. I got enlightened.
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@ Why?
I have to wonder…do you ever think that some single mothers were actually married and then divorced? Left with kids and a father who chose not to participate or a father who was killed in war or some random accident.
Not all women are single mothers because they laid up with some dude and is stuck being a single mother. My mother was not some loose woman who laid up with random men and because of her bad choice ended up raising us single. My mother married my father. They divorced and he was nothing more than a in and out contribution to our lives. So save that bs for the birds.
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phoebeprunelle
I’m sticking to what i am saying–i have read that tired storyline dozens of times on the internet.
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Well if you’re reading North American blogs I wouldn’t doubt it! The United States “American culture” does not shame single parenting and hence we have an epidemic of it here.
What’s worse – these single parents are dating, and thus subjecting their children to all sorts of possible harm and psychological issues.
In this country, the parents’ sense of “freedom” is more important than the child’s own safety.
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@ Why?
And you know their numbers are less based on what? Your experience or are you going to enlighten me on how you know all these people in the USA or world. You can guesstimate on your experience but your experience is not going to give an accurate telling of what is going on in the entire USA.
This is what becomes annoying for me when people who believe that because they know these amount of people they have the all know of the world.
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Sharina
@ Why?
I have to wonder…do you ever think that some single mothers were actually married and then divorced? Left with kids and a father who chose not to participate or a father who was killed in war or some random accident.
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Widows are an entirely different category. In the case of many widows, a loving and responsible husband and father is mourned by this wife and children. While this is traumatizing it does not have the negative long term effects of not knowing who you father is or knowing who your father is but not having him involved in your life because he doesn’t care or your mother is keeping you from him.
Divorce? That is also extremely problematic. Why is the US divorce rate so damn high? Why can’t couples get along? Or why can’t they stay married for the sake of the kids (provided no one is being abused)?
I want to get to the bottom of why the family unit is disintegrating in this country.
I feel sorry of the kids.
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@mary burrell
To be honest I recently came to that discovery myself.
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Yall see this crazy white man on discovery channel about to try to cross the grand canyon on a tightrope without a harness live smh.
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@ Why?
You assume that the kids would be old enough to mourn their dead father or know him. With war mothers sometimes give birth to kids with the father already dead.
As for the single mom syndrome you mentioned not all women go out to get pregnant. Some actually fall into the .1% of failed birth control. I had two kids with my husband while on birth control, so that is one issue. Broken condoms are another and then the fear of telling a parent they are even having sex to get birth control is another. It is shamed to some extent but it is also a matter of what can you do about it now. In my family and child out of wedlock was a complete shame and you were reminded of it, but they loved that child no less.
Moving on to divorce. Most people that I know are not willing to work it out with a cheating spouse. The trust is gone and it not easy to get back. Some people just grow apart and while we all feel sorry for the children. It would be worse, IMO, if a child grows up seeing a loveless marriage and confuse it with love. Then they marry and end up divorce because they don’t know how to love.
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Damn Why, you don’t get it. I’m not in agreement with you.
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@ Mstoogood4yall
LOL. I hope he can swim or atleast have good life insurance.
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@ Mstoogood4yall, You are talking about Nik Wallenda. from the Wallenda family. They are daredevils. I think he is the only one.
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@ Mstoogood4yall, * I meant to say he is the only one living*
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@ mary and sharina
lol yea he better have good insurance. I wouldn’t be able to allow my man to do something like that i’d be mad. I’d be like u want to do this crazy ish now after I married u and had your kids , naw yo u shoulda got this ish outta your system before I met u. And if u die i’ll be mad at u for taking this unnecessary risk, its one thing to die in an accident its another to die doing some bat crazy ish.
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Mstoogood4yall, The bat ish crazy is in his blood. He is from the Flying Wallenda family. They have been performing for several decades. I think he is trying to perform this same stunt that killed his greatgrand father.
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dark girls comes on in 30 minutes can’t wait I just hope they did a good job.
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this guy need to hurry up and get on that rope I don’t have all day to watch this, hopefully its over before dark girls come on
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Mstoogood4yall: Are you watching the Oprah special with Viola Davis, Gabrielle Union,Phylicia Rashaa, It’s really good.
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^ I am now didn’t know this was on
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Mstoogood4yall, Are you hearing what Gabrielle Union is saying about body images?
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^ yep its a shame and ms viola davis is beautiful and I love the way she tells it like it is, she looks stunning for to say she is 48 she look 30 ish
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mary u watching dark girls. that is sad that cute girl said she don’t like when ppl call her black and thinks she’s not black. I can’t help but wonder what her parents are teaching her if anything at all. doggone shame
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I can’t believe Kelly Rowland recently opened up and said that she didn’t like her skin color. She is so beautiful! I think she is much prettier than Beyoncé. It is a shame that many dark skin girls grow up not liking their skin color. I know because I was one of them. I didn’t like my skin color for years because I lived in a biased and racist area where White girls are considered the best. Black girls were considered too dark and ugly.
I seem to have too much issues, lol
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* are u watching dark girls adeen on own network? it is sad that we as black ppl do this to each other, dark skin is beautiful. I can’t stand to see these women and young girls being sad like this because of other ppls ignorance that look like them. Its like we have no safe haven not even in our own community smh.
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@ Mstoogood4yall, Did you see it. Is this sad or what? God help our people. We are truly sick. Our people need healing.
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Is “Dark Girls” on cable?
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OK. I see it’s on OWN.
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@ Adeen, Kelly Rowland is beautiful. I have a cousin who said he would push Beyoncé out of the way to get to her. Adeen, you are going through teen age angst. This is only temporary. Soon you will be !8. You should be focusing on where you want to attend college. Thinking about your new life as a college student. These things are just phases. You are going to be fine.
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Yes mary I’m watching it is very sad im about to cry. I can’t stand seeing ppl hurt. we overcame all this stuff only to be dealing with hate from our own. mlk wanted ppl to not be judged by their skin color but the content of their character and now black ppl are judging each other based on skin tone. I feel so sad for the ones who don’t have a strong sense of self
Idk fiamma its on oprahs network I have directv idk about cable.
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phoebe,
“Damn Why, you don’t get it. I’m not in agreement with you.”
Ask me if I care.
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@ Mstoogood4yall, It is painful. That little one is so beautiful. I hope her mommy tells her how pretty she is. She is such a beautiful child.
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Sharina:
“You assume that the kids would be old enough to mourn their dead father or know him. With war mothers sometimes give birth to kids with the father already dead.”
– You don’t get it, do you? A widow is worlds away from a “baby mama”. She’s also worlds away from a frivolous divorcee, a frivorcee.
It has to do with character, and that bleeds over into the example of parenting skills we provide our children with.
“As for the single mom syndrome you mentioned not all women go out to get pregnant. Some actually fall into the .1% of failed birth control.”
– Yeah! .1% fall into that category. The exception always proves the rule.
” I had two kids with my husband while on birth control, so that is one issue.”
– You had an actual HUSBAND. That is the issue!
“Broken condoms are another and then the fear of telling a parent they are even having sex to get birth control is another.
– Teenagers should not be having sex.
“It is shamed to some extent”
– As it should be.
“In my family and child out of wedlock was a complete shame”
– Good!
“and you were reminded of it”
– Even better!
” but they loved that child no less.”
Of course. Children cannot be held responsible for the mess their parents are.
“Moving on to divorce. Most people that I know are not willing to work it out with a cheating spouse. The trust is gone and it not easy to get back. ”
– That’s certainly understandable. However I do feel that if they have children then they should make a long and sustained effort at working though that. If they don’t have kids then sure, go on and divorce, its perfectly justified under that circumstance.
“Some people just grow apart”
– That’s pretty much nonsense. I count that excuse under the “frivalous divorce” category. Frivorce.
“and while we all feel sorry for the children. It would be worse, IMO, if a child grows up seeing a loveless marriage and confuse it with love.”
– I disagree with that.
In fact, there was some study done that showed couples who “fell out of love” but stayed together for the sake of the kids, their kids turned out ok and grateful that their parents stayed the course. Though there were no demonstratable romantic affections displayed in front of the children, the children grew up with a strong sense of family and security.
Kids require stability and calm. They do not require seeing their parents cuddling up together on the couch, though that’s a nice icing on top of the stability cake. What’s important is the cake batter.
And lets not forget that “love” is a verb. One develops loving feelings by doing loving things.
A few years into a marriage all the dopamine and other feel good chemicals that make one feel high and “in love” wear off. What one is left with is the daily grind of life, the routine, the banal.
Its at this point that many couples “fall out of love” or “grow apart”.
Its at this point that they have to work on their marriage by consciously doing loving things.
Besides, for thousands of years people did not marry for “love” alone or even at all. And even if some married for love, love is not what kept them together. Marriage was seen as a duty to family, community, tribe, society.
Its an institution all of its own and has a much bigger purpose than just what passes for “love” in today’s world, which is more often than not simply LUST.
Stay the course with your spouse through thick and thin, then we can talk about real love.
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@ mary
my mom came in my room and saw what I was watching and told me about how when she was younger she tried to scrub her skin and no kids would be her friend and the friends she got were because her older sister was a little lighter and would introduce her to her friends. She thought this colorism was over, sadly it is worse
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Dark people need to get a hold of the media and proclaim, “the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice!” and walk with their heads held high and when asked from where do they get their extreme self confidence, respond, “from my lusciously melanated smooth chocolate skin!”
Even if they don’t feel it, they need to express that. Feelings follow actions.
Like I said above “love is a verb”!
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@ Why
I don’t think you get it but I think you are quick to come off at the mouth with out a clue of what you have to say. You my dear are the one the brought up single parent home. You did not specify the different types of single parents home but I did, so you can’t decide what single parent is acceptable and not acceptable now because you were quick to bash the category a few minutes ago.
What you accept and what other people accept is their business alone. because a person refuses to accept a cheating spouse does not make them wrong or bad for it. Does not mean the kids will grow up bad for it. Just means they aren’t willing to take the risk of having their spouse bring them home an std or an illegitimate child.
“In fact, there was some study done that showed couples who “fell out of love” but stayed together for the sake of the kids, their kids turned out ok and grateful that their parents stayed the course.”—And please do quote what the sample size was.. Better yet don’t bother because it will not account for those that it does not work for.
Regardless of what you said who does a loveless marriage benefit? No one but the individuals who want to save face with society. They don’t really benefit the kids who in turn can create a cycle of marriages for appearances. Marrying someone because they are the same status, cheating on them with someone they found to love, leaving them when the children turn 18. Kids are bitter and confused. This is the reality of a lot more marriages than your stats care to mention. I know women whose husband woke up one morning and walked out on them. Did not bother to tell why or say anything. Married because they were young or because they had a kid together but was in the stages of learning to love the other. Love is not always enough, but being forced to stay in a marriage because it makes someone happy is bs.
“Stay the course with your spouse through thick and thin, then we can talk about real love”–Lets not assume you know what trials my spouse and I have been through. More than your mind could imagine and more than anyone should have to.
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@mary
it is a shame that these black men who have self hate are like white men. They want to try to use a dark skinned woman just for sex and not a relationship yet I bet these same types will be telling us to not mess with other men as they will only use us for sex. its funny how some ppl can call out other ppl for their bs but not their own bs.
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@Why?
“Dark people need to get a hold of the media and proclaim, “the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice!” and walk with their heads held high and when asked from where do they get their extreme self confidence, respond, “from my lusciously melanated smooth chocolate skin!””—Why should I? I don’t need the media to feel loved, sexy, or on top of the world.
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@ Mstoogood4yall, It’s just so sick. It’s just one of the many pathologies in our community. You better learn to love yourself.
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@ Sharina, I know that’s right. Sisters need to love them self. Better do the work on your own. Stop waiting for the media, white people and others to validate you.
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^ mary
this stuff is sad. I would not want my kids to go to public school and deal with this bs. Its even more sad that this bs has spread to Africa. this culture is cancerous, this is why they have these crazy rappers and actors portraying us badly because they know this mess spreads to other countries and infuences them. this is why we need to separate from these cancerous ppl asap
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@ Misstoogood4yall, I like the line from the movie Beloved. Where she talks about self love. LOVE YOUR FLESH.
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@ Misstoogood4you, This bleaching business is crazy. This fools going to get cancer, trying to bleach themselves. They want that mess Michael Jackson was using. I never believed he had vitaligo. Michael had issues of self hate.
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im crying right now because I feel their pain and can’t do anything about it. This ish is global. I didn’t have to deal with this stuff because I was homeschooled and sheltered from all this. I just hurt for these women, they are beautiful
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@ Misstoogood4yall, They bleaching in Jamaica too.
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Aw not Jamaica too, this must be changed I just hope someday I can do something about it I just don’t know what that will be.
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@Iris
Great update. I will smile for you. *so you don’t jinx anything ;-)* It will work out fine.
@ the ladies talking about Dark Girls *Shhh, lol* I’ve DVR’d it so I haven’t watched yet. But from the commentary here sounds like it should be interesting. Im mad I didn’t think to tape the pre-show with Viola Davis and the rest of the legendary actresses. I hope it will rerun.
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@ mary burrell
IKR. Especially considering the media is why we are second guessing our beauty in the first place.
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mary
rofl this comedian is killing me whites called us colored but we stay the same color they pink when born, they red when mad and blue when cold lol. it is something how black ppl can’t seem to embrace who we are yet everybody else copies us and our features. We are trying to be someone we are not we are the original yet we strive to be a copy?
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People in India bleach as well.
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@Mstoogood4yall, Yeah, the comedian is funny. He told the truth.
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^ yea I know it seems everyone deals with this colorism it was crazy that that Korean woman deals with it as well and to me she looks light as it is. this stuff comes from America, it is a shame ppl around the world see this craziness here and try to emulate it. I feel sad to be a part of this culture
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“. Its even more sad that this bs has spread to Africa. this culture is cancerous, this is why they have these crazy rappers and actors portraying us badly because they know this mess spreads to other countries and infuences them. this is why we need to separate from these cancerous ppl asap”
I travel a lot and one of the most heart breaking experiences I have is when I see American hip hop videos on foreign televisions. Not only does it give those countries a horrible image of Americans, it also influences THEIR media. Ever see an Indian film where they are trying to imitate gangsta rappers video vixens during their “item numbers”?
Embarrassing.
And I’ve heard some Americans brag about that! “Ooh look, they imitating us!”… But are they imitating us in the rest of it? Nope. They make sure too steer clear of all that hot mess. But on film, for money, they imitate. Its really a form of making fun, not of admiration.
mary burrell said,
“People in India bleach as well.”
Links to videos get held up in moderation. So go to youtube and in the search bar put “Fair & Lovely Inside”.
Its a parody made by some Indian Americans of the literally thousands of “Fair & Lovely” television commercials aired in India daily.
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@ mary
That little girl is soo cute. Am I the only who thinks she kinda looks like janet Jackson? http://img.ezinemark.com/imagemanager2/files/30003693/2011/01/2011-01-19-09-01-49-4-this-picture-reminds-us-about-the-childhood-of-mic.jpeg
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@Why
”“the darker the berry, the sweeter the juice!”
Well said Why. Black is beautiful in all shades.
@Mary
My mother was the lightest Black in her family. She was high yellow while her parents and siblings were dark skin. I never understood why she was so fair. My mother has darken up to be Lauren London’s complexion but she is still light skin. My father is dark skin and I take after my father’s coloring.
However my mother never understood why her darker siblings(Aunts and Uncles) had low self esteem about their skin color. My mother is the only one who had full Black kids while her siblings have mixed race children because she told me that they didn’t like their dark skin.
@All
I am watching the documentary, Dark Girls. It made me cry because of my own struggles with my skin color
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@ Mstoogood4yall, Yeah, I see that. She was cute. All these beautiful people. I love Viola Davis. She is so elegant. “Rise Dark Girl Rise”. Good Night. I am going to sleep now. Thanks, sister Mstoogood, It’s been a pleasure,
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Night sister mary it was a pleasure as well.
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@ adeen
How are u doing? did u enjoy the documentary?
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Um, Mstoogood4yall, that IS Janet Jackson!
The bottom line is that dark skinned people need to take the reigns of the cultural narrative and assert their pride in their chocolate skin.
Next time someone, a relative or whoever, tries to make a snide comment about your skin tone, reply with, “girl, you only WISH you looked as good as me” or something like that.
I’m watching a homemade youtube documentary about shade-ism amongst Indians. Its the elders in the family who are telling them to “stay out of the sun or else we won’t be able to marry you off” etc.
They are also selecting for skin tone in their filtering process for prospective brides/grooms from their adult children.
The young people in India and the Indian diaspora need to grow some balls and stand up to this nonsense instead of keeping mum out of respect for elders.
As long as we remain silent, it will be the light-skin obsessers who control the cultural narrative.
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@ Why
I am guessing you mean well in your statements, but you have a habit of believing that your ideas are more right than others. You ignore obvious differences in situations and circumstances to insert your way as right. This will get you ignored and thus far you have racked up a few people who seem to already be doing just that. If you want to be heard people will listen but if you are going to do the “I know best” rhetoric people will quickly start avoiding any dialogue with you. Not trying to be rude but I thought I would point that out as you are not the first to do this.
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@Mstoogood4yall
I am fine but this documentary really affected me mentally.
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Mr. Piggle-Wiggle,
I disagree. It may take two to tango but fathers aren’t the ones getting pregnant. Why are these women so quick to spread they legs for some guy who won’t stick around? Why aren’t they getting married first? Why aren’t they using birth controls? Women say it’s their body and they can do whatever they want with it. If it’s their body then it’s their responsibility.
What about in some cases where they are forced into having intercourse with these men? (There’s a word for that by the way.) What if they get pregnant from that? Are you still going to say it’s their fault even though they were victims of a crime?
Yes, Tommy and the rest of the blame the black women horde can accuse black women of this problem, but at the end of the day, like you said, it takes two to tango. If you spend so much time blaming the female, then you lay MOST of the responsibility on her. Common sense tells you that she didn’t get pregnant by herself. Yet, you make it sound like the male isn’t as much to blame as the female. Why isn’t he and others with the same anti-black woman disdain saying a word about those men, huh?
I stick up for black women because they need support, not insults. And people like Tommy thinks it’s a punk’s move. But I think bashing black women is a punk’s move because he capitalizes on his pain instead of confronting it like a man. To me, he’s a punk that needs serious therapy. And to be honest, so do you for believing him.
Have I’ve been hurt by black women in the past? Yes. And for a while, I had the same mentality that Tommy had inside. But, in the end, that bitterness did nothing for me. Do, I still have some emotional scars. Yes. Still, I think it’s cowardly to blame everything on black women and not mention one word about institutional or historic racism, sexism and classism. Not to mention that he’s sticking up for whiteness with his rants. Whiteness includes the demonization (as illustrated in the documentary “Dark Girls”) of black women and it’s no different than what Tommy is doing?
In my opinion real brothas would fight this insanity, not encourage it. Tommy, or should I say Uncle Tommy, encourages it not through tough love but through genuine hatred.
And please don’t tell me that I don’t know what I’m talking about because I’ve managed to stomach a few of his videos. I couldn’t take anymore after those few. I know what’s going on, and if you’re smart you would free yourself from his influence and take a good look at what his messages are really saying and doing.
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@ Adeen
It is late, but when I awake tomorrow I will share something with you. I know how you feel because at your age I went through similar feelings. I will detail something in the morning. I promise.
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@Sharina
Thank you.
@BrothaWolf
You are deserving of the cultural term Brotha. You seem to love and stand up for Black women and I like that about you.
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I know he’s persona non grata around here but Sotomayor has a video where he calls out the Black website “Hello Beautiful” for posting a pic of a light skinned “half breed” (his words, not mine) in place of the actual person (a dark skinned black girl) they were writing an article about!
He says they did this because the website staff thinks black people would not be interested in reading the article otherwise!
Since putting youtube links here automatically gets the comment put in moderation, just go to youtube and type in their search bar
“15 Year Old Black Girl Is Going to Harvard But Is She Too Dark To Be Praised Hello Beautiful Thinks So”
Its on the tommynewsnetwork1 youtube channel.
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Here it is!
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jHQf69Raw0)
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^^^^I watched that video previously. Its his usually strategy. When black women fail or are badly behaved, its bea\cause they are black women. If black women are exceptional, then it is “Go Team Melanin!!!!” Hypocrite much?
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW31Te1awVw)
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@ Satanforce
I just deleted a comment of yours. You will have to somehow express your opinion without calling women “bitches”.
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@ Mary, Ms Too Good, etc
I was not able to see “Dark Girls”, but thank you for your commentary. I am glad Kelly Rowland said what she said because it shows how utterly senseless the whole dark skin thing is.
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Damn. You’re tying my arms behind my back and expecting me to write. OK. here goes:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW31Te1awVw)
OK, I’m looking at this Dark Girls trailer, and I can already tell that it is some bullshit. Most of these chicks is bawling because they think that people don’t like them because they’re black. No, people don’t like them because they’re ugly. And raas howgly at that. The most triumphant example occurs at 3:48 in the above video. Just pause it right thee and prepare to laugh, scream and vomit all at the same time. Funny shaped head with bunny rabbit teeth. If nature favors 1.61:1 as ideal proportion, then that woman’s face has a damn uranium ratio, because it looked like a nuclear bomb went off in her original face.
All but two of those women are so fundamentally fucking ugly that they should be used as case studies for potential cosmetic surgeons to study and analyze. Dozens of academic papers would be published just on the epidemiology, epistemology and aesthetics of their fugliness.Those who are not fucking raas ugly either need to get their teeth fixed, to do some pushups and some jogging, or to get the damn chemicals tooken out of there head, looking like some hair hatted hooligans (yeah, I said it!)
Don’t give me any shit about the Doll Test. It was good for dramatic effect back in the old days, but nowadays, it is just some unscientific bullshit, dragged from the anus of that fat ass cow called social “science” and reproduced whenever some set of black people want people to feel sorry for them.
And that’s what this is. A bunch of ugly ass women who want to guilt trip society into liking their fugly fucking asses. NO BEAUTIFUL DARK SKINNED WOMAN HAS TROUBLE GETTING THE LOVE SHE NEEDS. Obviously she will encounter several painful situations that would not be faced by a …ahem… more mainstream woman. The sad thing is that those ugly women in that video could easily fix themselves. Just look at Viola Davis. When she was cooning in that maid movie she looked like geriatric crackhead. At the award show, she fixed herself with that hair and that dress, and I was like OMG MILF!!! (emphasis on the ILF.)
They are a lot of dark-skinned women that people find beautiful and talented. Just look at Jada Fire, Baby Cakes, Maserati XXX, Aryana Starr or (especially) Karina from Culioneros. And no, I’m going to mention no damn Michelle Obama or Gabrielle Union or whoever because we live in a fully pornified society that does appreciate women for anything other than their physical beauty and ability to take dick. If you want the appreciation of that type of society then fine, but you will get the neuroses you deserve. Only a sick woman would seek the attention and love of a sick society.
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@Satanforce
Gabrielle Union spoke about being rejected by a Black guy who chose the light skin girl with ”pretty hair” over the dark skin girl. And she is beautiful too! Not ugly.
I think you missed the point of the whole video. It was to uplift dark skin girls not put them down based on your standards of beauty.
Watch this:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyN0UcZ85bo)
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@ Adeen
I will share this with you as promised. When I was 16 I wanted to be white. I was going to save up and buy the skin whiting cream, get the brown contacts when I went to my eye exam. My hair was wavy then so I felt good to go, but was going to die it brown. The odd thing about all this is I did not want to be white because I felt unpretty or anything but because I wanted to escape being connected to black people. Blacks females hated me in high school and the ill treatment I received from the group I wanted to be connected to the most scarred me on a whole new level. It took years to recover.
When I hear young sistas talk abut struggles with their skin I feel hurt for them. I want to cry for them. I think the most beautiful thing in the world is brown skin. I know that might not mean much coming from me, but it is in my eyes. It also does not help to be around black men and women who uplift this view of beautiful black skin. Stay strong and don’t let not a soul question your beauty.
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correction
*It also does help to be around black men and women who uplift this view of beautiful black skin.
Frankly even with T. Sotomayor doing a video like that I would still not praise him. I am not into falling into a war of light-skinned vs. dark-skinned.
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satanforce, I’m watching the same preview and I’m seeing more than just 2 women in it who are attractive. I’d say most of the women are at least average looking (which is not ugly by any means), and a good number of them are above average (pretty). Yes, there are a few very unattractive ones and a few morbidly obese ones who would look better 100 pounds lighter. But overall, most of the women featured look ok if not more than ok.
I agree with you that a dark skinned beautiful woman would *probably* have no problem getting a man of her choice.
The problem is that a lot of people tend to overestimate their own looks, like thinking they’re a 7 when they are really a 5 (like Tommy Sotomayor), or underestimating their own looks.
But in any case, no body should be verbally abused for not being good looking. That is just downright cruel and uncultured.
Human beings are so much more than our looks.
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@ why
Well said.
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`That stuff never bothered B.R. or Thad. Don’t worry about it.` that is cold , Abagond
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brothawolf
“What about in some cases where they are forced into having intercourse with these men?”
I’ve never heard Tommy blame a woman for getting raped. How can you compare the innocent victim of a crime to some tramp?
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@Why
Well said, that is why I didn’t agree with Satanforce whe he said that the Black women in the video are ugly. It was like he was implying that dark skin women are ugly. I do agree with your premise but it seems to be that Satanforce thinks that light skin women are more attractive.
@Sharina
Thank you very much.
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Piggle Wiggle
”I’ve never heard Tommy blame a woman for getting raped. How can you compare the innocent victim of a crime to some tramp?”
Not all Black women are tramps. I know I am not one. However to the Black women that are tramps, well you can’t change them overnight. They either will change their ways when they realize their ways are wrong or never change. You may mean well but I really think you internalized a lot of Tommy Sotomayor’s nonsense when it comes to Black women.
I am not even part of the problem. I have no kids or a husband.
Have you thought it was men like Tommy Sotomayor that was part of the problem?
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Mr. Piggle-Wiggle
I’ve never heard Tommy blame a woman for getting raped. How can you compare the innocent victim of a crime to some tramp?
I wouldn’t put it past him if he did or will. I’m just using an example, and how would you define innocent in this case?
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Mr. Piggle-Wiggle,
To piggyback on what Adeen asked, have you even stopped to question what he said at all before just agreeing with him?
And even if there are black women who are, as you say, tramps, they are still human. Casting them down won’t make them change. Making them feel lower than they already feel won’t uplift them.
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The real problem is American cultures and values if you ask me. It just amazes me how these actions are of no consequence when a white female does it but is just the devil if black female or non-white female does it. It is not a racial thing but a cultural thing and putting certain behaviors off on one race like tommy soyomypants does is not going to fix the actual problem.
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Sharina, nor does putting those behaviors on one gender.
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@ solesearch
True.
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@Mstoogood4yall: I am exhausted, After all the commentary over the weekend and the Dark Girls documentary, my soul is parched and my mind is just scrambled eggs right now. That was a lot. Abagond was reading our comments. “WoW’. I always feel flattered when he responds to something I say, Because I don’t feel like he thinks what I say is important. But That made my day today. How are you doing to day little sister?
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R.I.P. Bobby Blue Bland. A real bluesman. I am starting to like the blues these days. “The Blues Is Alright”.
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@ Mary Burrell
As long as you are not letting any of this commentary give you the blues. 🙂
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@ Mstoogood4yall, I once heard a co-worker tell me that her mother put bleach in their bath water when they were young. I just thought she was crazy. Well she was crazy. When I saw that in the documentary I saw someone pouring bleach in the bath. It made me think of the woman from work. And she hated dark people. She was a light skin woman from Louisiana. I once heard her say “Don’t give me any thing Black except a Cadillac”. That’s just how sick this woman was. Mstoogood,If you get the chance Look up the line from the scene in the movie “Beloved”. The character Baby Suggs poretrayed by Bea Richards is awesome. I wasn’t too crazy about the movie but that scene always reasonated with me. Look it up and watch it. It’s very powerful.
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@ Sharina: I kind of got to me a little. But I am going have a nice glass of lemonade.
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@Mary and Sharina
That woman at your job is sick. My mother is lighter and nothing like that colorstruck woman. She is considered Black in the eyes of White America whether she knows it or not. Yes the documentary really opened my eyes a lot because of my own struggles of accepting my dark brown skin. It was sad to hear Kelly Rowland say she disliked her skin color when she is such a beautiful woman. Even Gabrielle Union opened up her experiences as a dark skin girl too. She said she was overlooked by a Black guy who wanted a light skin with ”pretty hair”.
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@ Adeen; If you can like I said in the comments to Mstoogood4yall, There is a powerful scene in the movie Beloved played by Beah Richards about self-love. Adeen, you must decide her and now that you are beautiful. You can’t let society dictate to you, about your beauty and self worth. I know it’s difficult know as a teen with so much pressure from your peer group. But you must learn to celebrate and love you the way God made you to be. Don’t internalize all this ugliness from the media and society. Love You.
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@Mary
I know, it is hard since the media praises light skin and White women. Each race of women have their own sort of beauty from White, Black, Latino, Asian. We all have unique beauty and it is unfair to measure ”beauty” by the beauty of a White woman. Black, Latina and Asian women don’t fit White ”beauty” standards and never will. We are all unique in our special ways.
@All
Thank you, my self esteem is getting a little better. I don’t know what I would do without this blog. I really like it. Little by little I am starting to reject what the media thinks is ”beautiful”. I come on here and express my opinion without being maligned unlike the other websites I comment online. And I am thinking of leaving Sodahead, too much racists on there and most of the Conservatives aren’t nice to me on there at all. Has anyone heard of Sodahead?
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@ Adeene: Yes, I have seen it. It’s not good. Please leave that site. It’s just negative. You don’t need that negative trash in your life space.
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@Mary
Thanks,.
Anyone else heard of Sodahead? I am thinking of leaving it because of the sick and nasty Conservatards on there being cruel to Liberals and anyone who thinks differently.
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“We all have unique beauty and it is unfair to measure ”beauty” by the beauty of a White woman. Black, Latina and Asian women don’t fit White ”beauty” standards and never will. We are all unique in our special ways.”
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Exactly. It is also unfair, as I’ve seen some do, to judge femininity according to the standards or typical body structure of one group, e.g:
“Northeast Asian women are small and dainty and, therefore, more feminine as compared to ….”
-or-
“Black women are more curvaceous and womanly in form and, therefore, more feminine as compared to ….”
I personally have long thought it bizarre to compare features / physiques for alleged superiority of femininity, masculinity or beauty across racial lines.
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I’ve said it before. Nobody would go into a botanical garden and begin insisting that every other flower must be measured based on how closely it resembled a nasturtium.
“That’s a beautiful Lilly!”
“No it’s not! It doesn’t look anything like a nasturtium!!!!”
What a fool.
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@ Adeen
“Have you thought it was men like Tommy Sotomayor that was part of the problem?”
Women can give men half the blame if they like. How does that keep them from getting knocked up?
@ Brothawolf
“I’m just using an example, and how would you define innocent in this case?”
Are you asking why a rape victim is innocent and a prostitute isn’t?
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You do realize that I answered this in post \, right? See here:
He doesn’t like you because of that? He probably was no good anyway. On to the next one!
Yeah, I agree. I see one more.
LOL WUT!!???!?!! You must be real thirsty!!!! OK . Lets go.
@1:00 Oh my Gawd!! It looks like her eyes aregoing jump aout at me. I guess its a god thing that I didn’t buy that 3d scree for my laptop after all!!!
@1:10 it looks like a giant pigeon shat on her head and she forgot to wash it. Another one that needs to go jog instead of spending its time at the hair salon.
@1:48 Hah ha ha!! Just look at…oh my god she is fine!!!!
Goddammit, I’m tired. Just watch the below video instead
(http://youtu.be/N0_74uTcIUc)
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@ mary
That is crazy about the woman who put bleach in the water. It does get tiring seeing this kind of stuff. I had a good day yesterday I went fishing but didn’t catch anything but sunburn lol. I just watched the vid of baby suggs, was it her sermon it was good.
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Thank you Satanforce.
I would also extend this to men.
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Abagond,
May i write a guest post on “Dear White People”–the movie?
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@ Phoebe
Go for it!
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Mr. Piggle-Wiggle
No. What I’m trying to say is why blame black women all the time and everytime in a white patriarchal society where white men have and still condemn and dehumanize black women as well. What sense does it make if black men jump on the bandwagon?
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Mr Piggle-Wiggle,
It’s not about blame. It’s about responsibility. If those black men took equal responsibility for their children there would be no need to blame anyone, because there would be no problem. Unless, of course, giving birth to black children is the problem…
I thought the problem was black children growing up with little to no assistance from their father’s.
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Brothawolf
You’re saying I can’t criticize trashy behavior because of white people? I don’t give a tish about white people. Wtf do they have to do with it?
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Abagond, I’ve sadi this previously when Whitney passed away. Today is the 4th anniversary of MJ’s passing. I love the masthead. Thanks for that. May his sweet soul rest in peace.
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@ mary
how u doing today big sis?
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I can’t believe its been this long that michaels been gone. Its crazy what “his” daughter is doing
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@ Mstoogood4yall: I am good little sister. How are you? I love me some MJ. I really miss him.
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im great mary thanks for asking. Yeah mj was the greatest, I love pretty much all his songs, my mom used to like janet Jackson as well.My dad used to have the fro like Michael lol,its weird seeing what my dad looked like when he was younger.Me,”who is this fine young man in this photo?” mom, “that is ur father”
Me, *gags*, well i can see why u married him good choice *thumbs up*’ rofl. anyway what are some of ur fave songs by him?
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@Mstoogood4yall.: I love just about everything. I love young Michael’s I wanto be where you are, Maria,. Euphoria. His double album. He was like 12years old. The songs are kind of crappy. But he makes the best out of the crappy material and sings his butt off. I love “Bad” Liberian Girl, Just Good Friends with Stevie Wonder. Want To Be Starting Something. “Remember The Time. Break Of Dawn, Earth Song. Blood On The Dancefloor. You really need to listen to that whole Cd. He was so angry on that one. He was cursing. And there is a song called Morphine It’s very telling what was happening to him with his addiction issues. It’s a very dark album. I love The History cd. He was just so special and gifted. There is nobody like him. Blood on the Dancefloor is very disturbing.
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@Mary
I love Michael Jackson! my favorite song by him is Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough. I was just listening to his song, Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough last night. I couldn’t believe he died 4 years ago. I always liked his music RIP MJ.
Michael Jackson isn’t apart of my generation music wise but I loved his music. I was born after his time but I will always love his music and if I have kids, I will raise my kids on Michael Jackson’s music.
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@ Adeen: He said he wanted his art to live on. Even after he was gone. I feel he will get his wish. It’s timeless. I went to see the Cirque Du Soile show and that was so out. All ages, ethnicities, were there. It was so amazing how his music transcends generations. He is a true icon.
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*sold out*
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@Mary
I know, that is one of the reasons why I love Michael Jackson. His music will live on and I will have my children listen to this man. You see, I am almost 18 and I grew up in the generation that saw MJ in the child molestation trials and I feel that my generation missed out on Michael Jackson’s musical impact a lot. People my age listen to Justin Bieber, Trey Songz, Shitty Minaj, Lil Gayne, 2 Chainz, Dick Ross and most of the crappy Hip POP artists of my generation and they wonder why I listen to Michael Jackson.
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Plus Off the Wall was his best album in my opinion. He was telling the world when he released this album on August 10th, 1979 that he was a grown man making good music not the little boy from the Jackson Five. I also love the music from Off the Wall too, it was so groovy and good meaning to it.
I like the Thriller album but I think it was an overrated album. Most of my favorite songs from MJ came from the Thriller album.
I love Bad and Dangerous. The History album had some amazing songs on it, it was unreal but to me, Off the Wall was epic and the best Michael Jackson album.
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Is that Whitney with Michael in the banner picture?
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@V.a.g.a.b.o.n.d , Yeah. I just love it. It’s precious.
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Ebony’s 1985 prediction of what Michael Jackson would look like in the year 2000:
![](https://i0.wp.com/www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Jackson1.jpg)
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@mary burrell
It is cute. You don’t have to type out all the periods in my name if you don’t want to. I put them there because without them, my comments get stuck in the spam filter since my name is too close to Abagond’s and it looks like a misspelling a troll would make, I guess. Something like that.
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Yes, Abagond explained that to me. But I like typing the periods. I’m just crazy like that. LOL!
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Okay then! Whatever you want, LOL
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From the few Tommy Sotomayor videos I’ve watched, my opinion, based on his shtick, is that he is something of a “shock jock”…and deliberately so. He’s raw delivery enrages the targets of his negativity while it revvs up the motor of those who are looking for validation of their own rage.
He typically features a short video clip capturing the bad behavior etc. of one (or more) individual(s), usually a Black woman, and then proceeds to give his personal assessment of the behavior shown in the clip – an assessment which is typically replete with profanity, racial slurs, ad hominems and general misogyny / incitements to violence against women.
One notable aspect of this person’s rhetoric is the tendency to blame whatever nonsense showcased in the clips not solely on the Black female individual (typically) shown acting it out, but on Black women in general. Living in predominantly Black, NYC, working class neighborhoods my entire life, it is still rare that I run into women who dress and / or behave in the ways shown in the clips sent to him.
Also, this guy pretty much insults anybody and everybody, but has a particular hatred of dark-skinned Black women. “Twerking” seems to be fine with him when performed by a “Half-Breed”… just so long as is she doesn’t performed it inside of a church. White women are “snowbirds”…until they show out, and then they are “snowbeasts”. He calls weaves “hair hats”. Sheer buffoonery.
His particular brand of misogyny, though, will definitely find a home in the heart of those individuals who lean in that direction anyway … and of those who are looking for a convenient scapegoat for their own issues.
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Tommy Sotomayor is a disgrace to Black men and men in general. I don’t like hearing about that guy.
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@ Fiamma: This assessment of this Sotomayor idiot is interesting. So while he is promoting misogyny and hatred for Black women this is some kind of shock jock tomfoolery? While it helps me understand what this foolishness is about. Sick as it is. But the sad thing is he has a following.
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Well, anyway…I had a shag back in the day — its called a mullet nowadays –and my favorite MJ songs are “Billie Jean” and “Rock with You”. 🙂
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I like smooth criminal,billie jean,they don’t really care about us,heaven can wait,don’t stop till u get enough,etc. And of course the jackson 5 songs like i’ll be there, abc, i want you back blame it on the boogie. I don’t think we’ll ever have anyone like mj in my lifetime as mainstream music is getting worse each year.
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@ fiamma
what no jheri curl? lol
did ur mullet look like this; http://static.ibnlive.in.com/pix/slideshow/04-2011/birthday-bumps-eddie/vampire_in_brooklyn_030411.jpg
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do u remember the time was one of my faves too
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@Mstoogoo4yall: Give Blood on The Dance Floor a listen it’s interesting. A very angry Michael. I think it was after the molestation charges and he was fed up, It’s very dark. Especially the song Morphine. It has drug references. It almost sounds like he was drugged on this particular cut. It’s very sad.
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Supersoul Sister is a different Michael. He sounds sexually frustrated on this song. I’m telling you I was shocked. It was not sweet Michael at all. A totally flip side of Michael Jackson.
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ok sis im listening to it righ now with the lyrics, never heard of it before.
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@Nstoogood4yall: It’s crazy.
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Ok mary i just listened to blood on the dance floor it was different and i’m listening to stop tripping on me and he kinda sounds different and i guess this was made after the trial, and his way of telling ppl why are u trippin on me when we have other issues to worry about like the homeless, drugs,etc.
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im listening to morphine, wow, he sounds different. especially close to the end where he changes his voice from high and mad to low and sweet. this verse is weird to me and the way her curses i never heard this before. Relax
“This won’t hurt you
Before I put it in
Close your eyes and count to ten
Don’t cry
I won’t convert you
There’s no need to dismay
Close your eyes and drift awayDemerol
Demerol
Oh God he’s taking demerol
Hee-hee-hee
Demerol
Demerol
Oh my Oh God it’s Demerol
Hee
Oooh”
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It’s crazy. Isn’t?
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*Isn’t it*
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LOL, actually that’s not too far off from the style of mullet I wore. Mine was fluffier on top, had spiky bangs, smooth sides and back, pointed sideburns and a long shag starting near the nape of neck.
My hair at the time was wavy with a bit of curl here and there. A Jheri-Curl would have been overkill, I think. Not to mention the mess and drippage. Many people did have Jheri Curls as I recall. It was very popular for a long time.
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“Ben, the two of us need look no more” – I know it’s about a rat, but still lovely. 😉 “Gonna a make a change for once in my life…not a nickel to loan” -Wo(Man) the Mirror love that song. “Hold me like the river Jordan and then I will say to thee you were my friend”- forgot the title of that one but ❤ that song too.
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@ mary i listened to all the songs u suggested, the superfly sister was a little freaky he was talking bout get it wet wtf. i wonder who is this susie woman he mentioned her in this song and in the blood on the dance floor song.i wonder if it is someone who was in his life and sang about her just changed the name.
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@ fiamma
Rofl i had a jheri curl at one time my mom still does, matter fact she just put a jheri curl in her hair today bwahaha. that drippage is annoying,it would have my pillow wet so i had to sleep with a shower cap on lol.
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I used to think diana ross was michaels sister because they look alike and hung out alot. I loved the movie the wiz, i haven’t watched the whole thing and its been a minute since i saw it on tv.
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@ Mstoogood4yall; I wondered who Susie was too.
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@Mstoogood4yall; The Wiz was strange. Diana Ross was too old for that part I thought.
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Um …uh-oh. LOL, I hear there are products these days which are much better than back then.
Back then you’d see guys walking down the street wearing plastic showers caps on their heads to keep their curls from drying out. Youre not seeing any of that where you are, or are you?!
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@ mary
maybe she was too old lol. I haven’t seen all of it, i just remember the part with the scarecrow and them skipping down the road and singing.
@ fiamma
rofl no i don’t see ppl with plastic caps on their head to keep their jheri curl from drying out. All that was before my time, my dad tells me how people used to walk around with a boom box on their shoulder or attached to their bikes lol before i-pods, mp3s and even portable cassets there was the boombox
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@ Alright youngster, I must retire. Good Night.
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Good night ms oldie but goodie lol
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Solesearch
“I thought the problem was black children growing up with little to no assistance from their father’s.”
Fathers? These women don’t even know the fathers’ names! They ain’t fathers. They’re customers. LOL
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I like how you assume you know what those when do and do not know.
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Correction women
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Mr. Piggle-Wiggle
You’re saying I can’t criticize trashy behavior because of white people? I don’t give a tish about white people. Wtf do they have to do with it?
No. I’ve said the following:
“…Why blame black women all the time and everytime in a white patriarchal society where white men have and still condemn and dehumanize black women as well. What sense does it make if black men jump on the bandwagon?”
I’m sorry, but you’re sounding like you have a total disdain for black women for the wrong reasons told to you by the wrong people.
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CHEATING!
Since I said I was against divorce (except in cases of abuse or alcohol/drug addiction), and somebody brought up cheating, I’d like to throw out some ideas on how I think a marriage can work after you’ve even found out your spouse cheated on you. Since I’m a woman I will speak from a female perspective.
1. My spouse cheats. I catch him. I confront him. He admits. He wants to stay married, so do I. We agree to work on our marriage to make it so that he will not feel tempted to cheat again. HOWEVER since I have a strong sense of fairness, equality and justice, I also must have a fling in order to balance the scale. He understands. I have a fling. We go back to being monogamous for the rest of our lives.
2. He cheats. I catch him BUT I do NOT confront him. I let him go on cheating without him knowing that I know. To balance the scale I also start cheating without him knowing. What’s good for the gander is good for the goose!
3. He cheats. I catch him. We mutually decide to transition into an “open marriage”. However there are strict rules.
– Family comes first. Our children are not to know about our outside relationships. We are only allowed 1 night per month away from home at the most. So like he might get the first Saturday night of every month away from home with his lover and I might get the last Saturday night of every month away from home with mine.
– Our lovers and ourselves must get regularly tested for STDs and two condoms must be worn at all times for double safety.
– We are not to permit ourselves to “fall in love” with anyone else because that would compromise the marriage and family unit. Our lovers must be “friends with benefits” and that is all.
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So, any thoughts, feelings, opinions on any of the above?
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@ Why
I brought up cheating so you don’t have to do “somebody” you can just put @ and my name.
It still goes back to what i said before about putting up the facade of a marriage. It is only done to make the adults happy and does nothing to benefit the kids. For starters you can lay down rules but what happens when they are broken. Say a child is produced from these flings. Then you would be a participant in breaking up a possible family for that child and their parents. So then the choice becomes having that child be raised without two parents to help not compromise your family. That other person may fall in love then when they come to realize that it is not going anywhere then you have a hurt person pushed back into the world with a guard up or ready to hurt someone else. Condoms do not stop you from getting herpes, Aids, or crabs. What if the spouse falls in love, then they become conflicted?
Most importantly the kids. If and when they find out then they will be hurt and confused. Then the question becomes…how did you save your family when you confused them on the value and trust that should come with marriage and a family. Those actions could scar them from wanting to participate in having a family of their own. Why should they when they can sleep with who they want and save the paperwork. It seems more lives are torn than saved.
In the end it is a matter of what each individual feels in a correct source of action for them. What they are willing to accept, but even divorced parents can be good parents. In the end it is not my decision, but those that make that choice. I just hope it is the right choice for them.
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Brothawolf
“No. I’ve said the following:”
I know what you said and I had it right.
Now you say I have “total disdain for black women.” No. I have total disdain trashy behavior. If I had disdain for women I wouldn’t care. Every other man is happy for women to act like hos as long as he gets to hit it. So who has disdain… me or them?
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Sharina, I’m just throwing out ideas for discussion. If a child resulted from a fling then maybe all the adults concerned could raise that child collectively. Like maybe everyone could move in together?
“It still goes back to what i said before about putting up the facade of a marriage. It is only done to make the adults happy and does nothing to benefit the kids.”
The benefit is that they get to be raised by both their parents under the same roof. Kids want that.
Have you heard about Karl and Kenya Stevens? There are a Black American couple with an “open marriage”. Except their 3 kids know all about it and even meet the other people they date. They’ve been interviewed on Dr. Phil and Monique’s show and Fox News.
They have several videos on youtube and on their website discussing how and why they transitioned their marriage into an open one and the issues they face along the way;
http://www.jujumamablog.com
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Agabond, do a post about this picture that has been circulating for some time now. http://cheezburger.com/2389220096
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@ Abagond
I keep forgetting to ask about the current masthead. Where is it from? I remember that face from a movie. Inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks 😀
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Lol that black couple in the open marriage are kinda crazy. i saw them on dr phil show and the man was going on about how condoms isn’t mandatory with their relationships and stds and hiv are in ppls mind, and that if u don’t worry about it u won’t catch it becausewhen u stressed ur immune system goes down and then u get the stds. smh. Its one thing for them to have their relationship like that but that woman got on my nerve because it was like she was trying to make everybody agree with her lifestyle. one of the things i think ppl can learn from ppl in open relationships is communication, because when i see ppl with that lifestyle their communication with each other is on point. I find it interesting that ppl in open marriages say well im not breaking the law its not like im a polygamist, then the ppl that are polygamists say well i love all my spouses and because i choose to commit to them and marry them i’m seen as bad but if i had them as mistresses with no commitment then i wouldn’t be seen as bad or breaking the law. Its just interesting that they compare their lifestyles and say oh no that one is worse than mine, when they are both seen as out of the norm.
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@ Brothawolf
The guy you are debating (loosely speaking) is not a real blogger in my opinion and should be taken as a joke. He appears to piggy back on other posts and writes a post in regards to the arguments he gets in with the posters or says what he disagrees on in regards to the post. He came to abagond’s post once, but could not get a heated argument out of abagond so did not return. He mainly posts word for word what you as the poster says. Some of the other opposing posters may be from his site. He is the agree with me or you are a moron type.
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@ Why?
“If a child resulted from a fling then maybe all the adults concerned could raise that child collectively. Like maybe everyone could move in together?”—Then i would have to say why was polygamy outlawed. If people still see that as an option to engage in then he could also marry this woman and live like “Big Love.”
” Kids want that.”—Do they or are the adults trying to convince themselves that is what kids what? Kids in general are sharp but do not have understanding of what is going on in adult lives in relationships. How can they want anything from it? I think too often adults try to convince themselves this is best for the kids to avoid that it really is only what is best for them. Adults can be very blind.
“Have you heard about Karl and Kenya Stevens?”—I have not.
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In regards to open marriage. I did a quick search and it seems a good bit of people feel that monogamy is a cop out. In reading one post on the matter I found this post to sum up my feelings on the matter.
Erin says:
September 17, 2011 at 9:57 am
There is a little something to be said for self control. And that’s really what is culturally disappearing. We take pride in our committment to our families (children), to our work, to our pet projects and our homes. But funny that when it comes to human interaction, we find ways to justify half-assed ways to sustain a relationship with minimal effort and call it “commitment”.
You should know yourself well enough to know what you are capable of. If you don’t want a monogmous relationship and you are okay with your partner sleeping with other people, have at it. All you need is honesty in that case. However, monogomy is *just* as natural as polygamy is. And it is grossly false when people claim that monogomy is unnatural. It comes down to free will and choice. You ultimately have the choice in conducting the kind of relationship you want. The desire to sleep with people and have variety is just as natural as the desire to be bonded and committed to one person. Men AND women both have chemicals in their bodies that support both practices. So again, I repeat, it is not a matter of monogomy not being natural. And when I see people say that, I know they are grossly misinformed about how human beings operate. THere are biological positives in a couple being committeed only to each other. That include child rearing to narrowing your plain of possible diseases contacted through other people. There aer biological positive in having a variety of partners, a diverse range of off spring. But a diverse range of off spring aren’t going to survive on their own. An anthropologist told me that back in the day 50% of babies died at birth.
I am committed to monogomy. I think it’s a wonderful and beautiful thing. In my relatoinships I might find other men attractive but I do not indulge and focus on that attractoin. I refocus it on my partner. And my bond to him is stronger.
As for marriage, I see it this way. For *most* women, marriage is the complete circle of a stage of a relationship. That doesn’t mean you don’t keep growing in your relationship but when a man doesn’t want to marry a woman, he is bascially telling her that he doesn’t want to reach that stage of a relationship with her. We can bullshit around about how it’s “just a piece of paper” but if it was *just* that, then that man would get married anyway. I do not think that you can be fully committed to someone if you draw lines in the sand about how far you are willing to go for them. And that’s what it comes down to. When you draw a line in the sand and say “I don’t cross this point”, you are putting stipulations on a relationship and a woman will inherently pick up on that.
To equate it for men, it would be like your partner being okay with giving you oral sex but she just doesn’t feel too comfortable with having sex. She draws that line in the sand. She says “this is as far as we go”. After all, sex is messy and the outcome might not always be pretty. There might be pain, there might be an unwanted pregency, her partner might be thinking of other women (and that’s pretty humilating)…there are tons of things that make sex as messy as marriage is.
I don’t believe everyone should get married. But I don’t believe that you can be committed to a person, truly committed, when you put stipulations about how far you won’t go in that committment.
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/when-monogamy-is-a-cop-out/
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@ Mstoogood4yall
I agree. I think people in open marriages can give great advice on communication.
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I will share this. When my husband and I first got married i would tell my family about the problems we faced. They would pass that all along through the family and it would get back to my husband at a family gathering who was blind sided by this. He finally pulled me to the side and said..”from now on if we have a problem talk to me first.”
I did the same thing with my mother-in-law except I complained to my husband and she pulled me to the side and said the same thing and explained the did not want her son caught in between our problems. Since then I take it to them and we are close and have better communication with each other.
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@ lifelearner
It comes from “Secret Self” (2010), a painting by Tim Okamura, He is a Canadian artist who loves to paint graffiti and black women. Here is the whole picture:
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@ sharina
well thanks for sharing. i try to learn different things from different ppl even the ones that i don’t agree with. im single and never been in a relationship, but i do try to learn from other ppls relationship mistakes and successes. i do think ppl should choose what they want their relationship to be like and not worry about what others think. I think i would be monogamous but i often think that if ppl weren’t told by religion or society what a relationship should be like i think ppl would be polygamist or polyamorous and maybe a few would be monogamous. but thats another story…
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@ Mstoogood4yall
True.
“I think i would be monogamous but i often think that if ppl weren’t told by religion or society what a relationship should be like i think ppl would be polygamist or polyamorous and maybe a few would be monogamous.”—I actually think some countries actually still practice polygamy but only men can engage in this. In Mormon church they practiced this in the past (some sects still do). All under the guise of religion.
I just think people should do what feel right for them. I don’t feel it is right for me.
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Hey. If you had a man that asks for an open marriage would you consider it? Same question for the guys.
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^ aw u had to go there lol. Hmmm…. i don’t think i would i think i would be jealous and afraid about the diseases, and unexpected pregnancies maury here we come lol. Maury; ‘ todays episode is about couples who are in open marriages and want to find the babt’s father, so come on out guys’ Audience: applause and boos. Maury:” tell us why you are all here.” guests,: we are here to find out who the father of these womens babies are” Maury: ok, how many men will we be testing today/” Guest:#1, well about 6 but if they and my husband aren’t the father then we gotta track down the other married men we swang with” Guest #2″ i think her husband might be my baby’s father and my husband could be her baby’s father. Maury” ok so let me get this straight,both of ur husbands are getting tested to see if they are the father of not only their wives baby but another man’s baby as well,” Audience:: gasps. Maury: ok the results are in, in the case of guest #1 baby her husband is… not the father,,,, and the husband of guest #2 is not the father. Guest #1 runs off stage cries. Maury: and u are all dying to know who the father of guest #2’s baby the results are in. In the case of guest #2’s baby, her husband is,,,,,, not the father, but now for the guest # 1’s husband,,,,, you are the father!!!. Audience:oh boo, more gasps. Maury: how does it feel to know that ur husband isn’t the father but somebody eles husband is? guest #2: i feel relieved but disappointed at the same time that my husband isn’t.” Maury, ” well that concludes today’s episode but tune in tommorow as we test more men to find out who is the father for guest # 1 baby, goodbye. Audience; claps ooh, ooh, shout it out, ooh, ohh ,oh wait that’s the wrong audience that is wendy willaims audience. *lights fade* And now ur local news is up.
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@ Mstoogood4yall
LOL. Just curious about the closet freaks in here. LOL.
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“He is the agree with me or you are a moron type.”
As opposed to the agree with me or you are a troll type.
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Why,
1. If what you are doing is fine, why keep it from your children? Your kids will find out. They will not be happy. Children are selfish( rightly, so)and don’t really care if their parents are happy. They want stability. If their parents are actively seeking out other people to be with it will make them feel insecure. Especially if you’ve been lying to them about your relationship. If family comes first then why put it at risk.
2. Two condoms? That’s not a safe sex practice. They aren’t meant to be stacked.
3. No falling in love with your lovers? Ok… If someone has so little control of their desires and actions why would they all of a sudden be able to control them even more when they are thrown into the lions den.
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“” Kids want that.”—Do they or are the adults trying to convince themselves that is what kids what? Kids in general are sharp but do not have understanding of what is going on in adult lives in relationships. How can they want anything from it? I think too often adults try to convince themselves this is best for the kids to avoid that it really is only what is best for them. Adults can be very blind.”
How is a divorce better for the children? Actually it is the reverse. Unless there is abuse the divorce only benefits the parents.
How can children want anything from their parent’s marriage? They want everything from it. It’s their entire foundation.
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@ Mr Piggle-Wiggle
What is your point? I was not talking about his debate with you. As I clearly stated something that it was in regards to something going on on his blog. Now if you have an issue that you want to start up with me then we can go at it but if not read further and stop trying to harp on snippets. Better yet I think it is open time with those tramps you are so familiar with.
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Piggle wiggle,
“Fathers? These women don’t even know the fathers’ names! They ain’t fathers. They’re customers. LOL”
So you are saying the fathers of the 70% of children born out of wedlock don’t even know they have kids?
I find that hard to believe. I have several male cousins and a friend who have children out of wedlock and they know they exist. They are just low priority. Do you have anything to back this up?
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@ Solesearch
“How is a divorce better for the children? Actually it is the reverse.”—I didn’t say divorce was better, but I am not going to jump on the bandwagon of a big love scenario either. Seriously what kid wants their parents, dads mistress, and his mistresses kids/their half sibling all living in one house together. and as I was asking before How can they want anything from it? They are confused by it so how are they going to know what to want from those type of relationships.
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Sharina,
Oh. I agree.
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know what come up on some real ish and admit you show no solidarity like i do for my ‘brethren’ cookin meth in a trailer it is a lot of problems and if you just gonna be you all about youself it is a average liberal position have a nice day
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cause you do not show solidarity at all
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water seek water
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it’s ok, though we know, us alphas, it’s not for everyone and it could be said it is a lack of self respect to some degree to associate with other alphas, that is what sotomayor is about maybe he just doesn’t know how to make enough money? or something, i like the dude, he came up quick, and well, again, ready or not here we come
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have a nice day!
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@ peanut
I watched a little of it yesterday, all i see is ppl attacking trayvons female friend, but i didn’t see the vid of her testimony. lolo jones came out and attacked her on twitter. This case should be simple but common sense ain’t that common especially here. I think george will get off or get a lesser sentence, i would be shocked if they give him the max, but i doubt it. i saw an article where when they were picking the jurors some jurors were worried about retaliation if they chose an unfavorable verdict, and one of the attorneys said don’t worry there shouldn’t be much backlash since we have done what ppl have asked which is for george to be arrested and go to court. And the jury is all white women and maybe one latino woman so go figure with that one. And i also read that trayvons friend lied about some things and said trayvon said this crkr is following me so that isn’t going to go over well either. If he do get off it will prove that white women are just as racist as white men they just do it when they can be anonymous or its a group of them. It will also prove that racism is still a major issue in this country, there was a case in georgia of a black man killing a white man in self defense and he is serving life. http://www.theroot.com/views/can-black-man-defend-himself-home
Also this is florida the same state that let casey anthony off with the ole blame someone else. she was a white woman and her child was white, so if they let a white woman off for killin her white child u know they’d let a white latino whatever off for killing a black child who ppl look at as being an aggressive full grown man.
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Interesting article on “racial empathy.” Probably should be read hand in hand with “White Women’s Tears.”
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/racial_empathy_gap_people_don_t_perceive_pain_in_other_races.2.html
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grin and bear it,
I’ve heard about that study before. Although, I don’t think it was pointed out that black people had less empathy toward black people, as well.
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I am so upset about how Rachel Jentel is being bashed in social media outlets. Our own people are throwing this young woman under the bus. She is being bashed for her outside appearance and socio-economic status. I am so ashamed that black people are participating in the ugly name calling. Shaking my head. The prosecutor was such a Richard.
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Zimmerpuke is a pus bag.
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Yep- I think Zimmerrat will get off. I’m trying not take this personal. I’m not even watching the trial, don’t want to get too vested in the media circus. Same ol’ story wrapped in a new package. Racism is alive and well, it’s just more incognito. *sigh*
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@ mary and peanut
It is sad how ppl are attacking this woman. i’m watching the news and george’s friend basically called her precious but is saying he was just saying her testimony was priceless and precious and he repeated the word precious about 3 times. He trying to be slick and say she is precious from the movie and ppl called him on it and asked him if he saw the movie and he said i don’t recall. He is full of it. Yes the reason they don’t have black ppl on the jury is listed in the voice of colour post. They think they are unbiased,they think oh these negroes will allow their feelings and seeing racism to interfere with the verdict, but white ppl are supposedly in control of their feelings and can judge because they look at evidence and not how they feel. I felt like wtf when that defense attorney was asking rachel if she can understand english. I don’t think it will end well, everybody needs to get their passports ready, because this country don’t care about us even the paula deen bs is not really about us, George shoulda stayed his fat ass in the car.because i wouldn’t confront someone who i think is suspicious i’d call the police and let them handle itthat’s what the hek we pay them for. Now if it is ur house that is a different story, but this was on public property a dam sidewalk. I hope they slow down the 911 tape and u can hear george say c()()n.
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I’m torn a bit about Rachel because a part of me sympathizes with her because she lost her friend and is probably playing the last conversation they had in her mind and is traumatized. The other part of me feels like somebody should’ve told her how to act on the stand because white ppl will probably not understand why she is defensive and having a little attitude and it is white women who will be judging. And they probably feel like she fits the angry, overweight, dark skinned black woman stereotype.ijs. First impressions are everything.
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@mstoogood4yall, Yes that turd said that. He thought he was being smart and was calling her precious. And insulting the viewers and the other attorney’s intelligence at the same time. Let’s you know what a racist dirtbag he is. Up there being smug. He thought he was being clever saying his wife used that saying “That’s just precious.” I was so mad I was screaming at the television. And white people wonder why we are angry.
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@ peanut
I know it is crazy how they are focusing on her, but i remember this is the same tactic they used in the casey anthony case, diverted attention from casey anthony onto her father and sadly it worked. That is what they are doing here, it seems the prosecution is hardly trying, by the end they will probably blame the witnesses as the reason the case fell through. All these ppl can see is a big, dark skinned woman, who they think can’t speak or understand proper english. U got ppl calling her precious and madea smdh.Just shows how messed up this country is where a person who is black always has to dot their i’s and cross their t’s even when they aren’t on trial. where else can a policeman get away with threatening the presidents wife and still have a job. Or where can a white policeman arrest a black man in his own home then ask the president to drink beer with him and the person he arrested and not offer an apology,but the president has to apologize for saying the police acted stupidly.
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Published on Jun 27, 2013
I was asked “How do we encourage—or get the message across of abstinence in an age overrun with the titillating hedonism that threatens to undo the fragile fabric of the African-American community?”
My answer: The objective should not be to singularly endorse abstinence; the objective should be to set an example as to the value of positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions. I would add that positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions should be the primary focus of any community. The principles, values, teachings, and understandings needed to actualize positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions should reside at the apex of any cultural esthetic and should be inculcated by those who are living examples of positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions.
Unfortunately, a significant portion of African-American leaders fail to adequately function as living examples as to the ethical understandings, mental outlook, and physical practices necessary for positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions. Understand that effective and empowering community building is realized through positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions.
To a great degree the leadership present within the African-American Community, including the so called “black conscious” community, is comprised of verbose males who are not in positive male-female relationships and are not functioning as fathers to their own children; a striking percentage of these males have many children by many different women and complain about having to pay child support to the mothers of the children that they have abandoned. Expectantly, these absentee fathers tend to attract young and old males who are also absentee fathers. Consequently the community building process is maturated within a homo-social environment that is dominated by absentee fathers who are not in positive male-female relationships and tend to uphold sexist ideologies in regards to African-American women.
It is within this matrix of dysfunction that such males gather and discuss what needs to be done to uplift the African-American community. No community will thrive while guided by such leadership.
So called “black leaders” who are not in positive male-female relationships, have not produced a healthy family institution, or are still stuck in the arrested development stage of “baby mama and baby daddy drama” should not be granted an audience in regards to positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions. Logically therefore, they should not be granted input as to a functional strategy for community building.
As I see it, the first 4 steps towards effective community building are as follows:
Step one: Develop your functionality as a man or woman through personal refinement and knowledge of self which includes an understanding as to your role and function in a positive male-female relationship and within the context of a healthy family institution.
Step two: Commit yourself to a positive male-female relationship.
Step three: Build a thriving family institution.
Step four: Build community through the generations of children who have been raised in thriving family institutions and have been privy to positive male-female relationships as exhibited by their parents.
The example of positive male-female relationships and healthy family institutions should not be approached hypothetically; rather it must be lived as a shared example as to what others can aspire towards. A strong healthy community would be a natural result of the attainment of such an aspiration but cannot and will not be realized so long as leadership within the African-American community is spearheaded by irresponsible and absentee fathers.
My name is Lenon Honor. Peace.
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I was watching Melissa-Harris-Perry on MSNBC, a commenter made a statement that reasonated with me. His commented that all the people making the negative commentary says a lot about who they are more than Rachel Jeantel. So we are not as far along in this post racial thing as we think we are. All you have to do is read the comments from various white commenters who come to black blog sites. And when I saw that crazy video with the want to be southern belles, well that’s telling too. It lets you know many what things to go back to the so called good old days. It’s 2013 we have a Black president and things are still messed up.
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Yes a post on the c word would be great. I just know there will be trolls on that thread though. Ms mary how u doing? Yes these racists are letting their true colors show, with their ignorant comments. They just proving how goofy they are to be attacking a young lady who is a witness. The double standard is crazy. Black woman kills a cop and is labeled terrorist, white guy leaks info and is labeled a hero. The southern belle vid was crazy as well, all they missing is some slaves then it would be an accurate portrayal of the good ole days smh. Maybe paula deen can go there and give them cooking lessons and they can all talk about how it would be nice and their fantasy complete if they had slaves.
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@mstoogood4yall, I am good. But everything you said was true. There is a double standard in this country. I even heard that Mayor Bloomberg said about the stop and frisk laws that profile Black and Latino men that he said it was more whites being frisked than Blacks and Latinos. And that more Blacks and Latinos needed to be stopped and frisked. WTF! That is totally crazy. And they were also talking about treatment for mental health issues and Black people weren’t addressing this issue. And one panel member commented that has anyone gone to Rachel Jeantel to see if she was OK. She her best friend was killed and she was the last one he spoke to before he was killed. That is tramatic. And not to mention the awful backlash from the media. This girl needs some counseling. There is such a thing as post traumatic stress. I feel she might even be depressed from all that’s transpired in her life these past couple of years. I feel for her.
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@ mary
yeah that is traumatic what she went through, but they don’t care. All they see is her fitting the angry black woman stereotype and they don’t care because of the whole strong independent woman stereotype as well. This is why they don’t have black jurors because they know we’d sympathize with her and not really judge how she reacts but judge what she actually is saying. Some people grieve differently some cry, and some get angry, its like they aren’t taking that into account. i don’t think there is anything wrong with reaching out for help mental illness or otherwise, and some black ppl need to stop stigmatizing it. I do think this young lady needs counseling, that doesn’t mean meds but just a someone to talk to about all that’s happened and where she won’t be judged. Maybe that is why she acts defensive on the stand because she is having to recall these horrific memories and its not in a therapeutic setting but in an interrogation setting where what she says is judged and used against her,
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@mstoogood4yall, Don West and his family had some pictures on instagram. They were eating ice cream cones. In the hashtags it said some to the effect of we beat stupidity. Were they referring to Rachel Jeantel as stupid? I can’t keep watching this trial it makes me too angry.
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^ yeah i just googled the pics. it is a shame that his daughter posted that. This double standard bs is getting on my nerve. How is it obama had to apologize for saying the actions of the police was stupid when they arrested henry louis gates, but this little brat gets to say this and no backlash or apology. i might stop watching the trial and just wait till its all over and hear the verdict. I bet whites are arming themselves right now for the fallout of this trial if the verdict is not guilty. I bet we will be hearing stories like the ones that happened in katrina, where white folks was shooting any black ppl that walked into their neighborhood.
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Oh yeah and add the fact that trayvon martin’s step mom went on anderson cooper and was kinda throwing shade at his parents and seemed starved for attention and its not looking good.
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@ mstoogood4yall, Yeah, I saw Trayvon’s stepmom. If I was her I don’t think I would want to be in the media. This is not a good look for this lady. I would just keep quiet. It enough of a mess as it is. Everybody wants their stupid 15 minuets of fame. I am smh. I have a terrible feel this will not end well.
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^ And the martins and their attorneys are saying it was not racially motivated yet in the trial they are trying to figure out if george profiled trayvon. I know they are probably afraid to say it is because they know whites will get defensive and say well the ppl breaking itno the houses were black.Use the same excuse they and donald tramp use and say well they commit crime and need to be profiled if it will prevent a crime. Yeah and the ppl who go on shooting sprees and bomb things are mostly white but i don’t see them profiling whites.
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Yeah I heard that guy talking about how they had so many home invasions and it was always Black guys breaking into their homes. George Zimmerman was a wannabe cop. I don’t know why he could make the police force. He is just some crazy vigilante. I will not be following this. Until it’s over and they read the verdict. I just can’t.
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@Mary
I will find a way to navigate the waters when I move back to New York after I graduate from high school however how can I write about racism in my stories without sounding too condescending and cold? I want to be an author one day that is why.
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@ Adeen: I have it said that writers write what they know. Did James Baldwin sound warm and fuzzy when he was writing? I feel you should write how your emotions guide you. After all it is your truth and your experience. Tell your truth with all the anger and all the other things that you feel. Take creative writing classes. read books on writing. There is a website for aspiring wiriters called Everthing2.org. Abagond did a post on this. It is pretty cool. There are lots of writers writing about everything on that site. Everything2.org. check it out. I told another of my friends who wants to write as well.
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@ Adeen: Check out hunglike jesus’s blog, Depression is my muse BlogSpot. He writes some really honest stuff. Check him out.
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@Mary
Thank you, I am writing a story right now that I hope to get published one day. I want to become a famous author one day too.
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I hope this question is taken in the way it is intended.
I lived in a city with about 500,000 in it a few years back. The city center was the poorest area and where many blacks lived. It also had the highest crime rates. These are just brute facts. I’m applying no racial propaganda to it.
There were many blacks that lived outside the city center, in the ‘burbs, etc.
When I was looking for an apartment, I found that the rents were not much cheaper in the city center. I ended up with a pretty nice 1 bedroom in a nearby ‘burb. It wasn’t a ‘burb that was a wealthy area, but pretty safe and nice.
I paid $600 a month or so with some utilities included. The rents in the city center were often the same or less than $100 cheaper.
Now, what is the primary motivation for people that can afford the extra $100 a month not to get out of the city center? I haven’t asked anyone or lived in the city center, so I don’t know. And I’m not asking you to answer for all black people, just what is your general sense as you may know better.
In the apartment complex where I lived (a big one), there were quite a few black families or singles, and everyone seemed to get along with everyone an participate in community events.
Given that the prices weren’t that much different, if more blacks in the city center left and lived out in a place where I was at, would that help with racism? I think it would make more white people interact with black people in a community setting. I don’t think the reverse (more whites moving into the city center) would be as easily achievable. As I said, the money savings was not that much, and the crime rate was higher; so I don’t see the same incentive to move there as to leave.
What do you think?
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ah well another fine urban summer starting up …. and btw i feel a little ahead of the curve on the sotomayor thing, i will get back to that but you know, been outside and stuff… wish everyone could handle the heat!
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Agabond, can you add a regular post to you schedule that would focus on biographies of influential people or historical figures? I am not sure if you do that already but I do know from time to time you do.
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@Kiwi
“I know you’re not talking to me but I would say that racial steering and racist loan officers play a big part in keeping communities segregated.”
I understand that. I’m comparing rentals to rentals though. I lived in a lower middle class ‘burb of sorts with some thoroughfares lined with huge apartment complexes with “for rent” signs, and they weren’t that expensive compared to when I just randomly looked at rentals all over a map. That ‘burb had 24 hour everything (grocery, pharmacy, convenience, etc) within a few miles of any location (nice place, I miss it).
I reminds me of a white guy I knew. His parents were both doctors and they lived in a neighborhood in Brooklyn that started to go down hill. He told me about being mugged multiple times as a child (he was mugged by whites, blacks, hispanics, the whole range of people took advantage of him). His parents still live in the same spot. I was flabbergasted that two doctors (probably with a combined income of $500,000 or more a year) didn’t simply move if their child was being mugged a few times per year! So, I guess I don’t totally understand why people other than myself make the location choices that they do.
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Hey guys!
My frittata turned out almost perfect this morning–minus a little sticking!
Never thought i’d see the day 🙂
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Congratulations phoebeprunelle. What kind of pan are you using?
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@ Kiwi
I am doing a post on that. Hopefully it will be up Tuesday (July 9th at 12.00 GMT).
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@qwerty,
IT seems like you prefer suburban living to city living, but transportation costs tend to be much MUCH higher in the suburbs, even if you have free parking at your house. By moving from the suburbs to near downtown, one could easily save $800-1000 per month in transportation costs if one does not need to keep a car. There is a big difference in time and cost between being a few miles (ie, 10 mins by car) to 24-hour shopping and 10 mins. by foot or bicycle, and being 10 mins by bus or subway to work and 45 mins by driving or bus from the suburbs. I always found suburban living to always be incredibly much more expensive in money and time than city living.
That is why I normally expect inner city housing to cost at least 50-80% more than suburban housing for the same amount of space.
I remember walking to work and for 90% of my shopping and entertainment needs in DC or NY after moving in from the suburbs — transportation basically cost nothing. I’d go take a ride on my bike (for free except for buying a lock) — compared to something like $10-30 for each car trip (counting the cost and maintenance of the car, plus gas, parking, security, parking and traffic tickets, etc.). If you don’t have a car, it cannot be broken into or stolen.
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Abagond:
Love the blog. The open thread seemed a good place to pitch a post idea to you, so here it goes: I was thinking about how blacks are streotyped as criminals, but when it considered ok to be a criminal (the old west and prohibition eras), all of crooks were white. Just wondering if you could touch on that.
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@Joel Pennington
Nice post pitch. Would be quite interesting to read.
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@phoebeprunelle
I thought you were doing a post soon?
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@ joel
That would be a great post. and talk about why the white mobs were and continue to be glamorized, i mean look at all the movies they made about it. Meanwhile they criminalized black groups like the black panthers and call edward snowden a hero while charles ramsey they tried to say he wasn’t.
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Awww something to tick me off for today.
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Crazy video from my guy, Lupe Fiasco that I thought you guys might be interested in.
(http://vimeo.com/69667098)
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“I was thinking about how blacks are streotyped as criminals, but when it considered ok to be a criminal (the old west and prohibition eras), all of crooks were white.”
Don’t forget America’s continuing love and fascination for the Italian-American mafia. They glamorize that beyond all comprehension.
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@ solesearch
That vid was great, kinda reminds me of the message in kanyes new slaves. I always thought lupe was great, better than a lot of mainstream ppl. I’m still trying to figure out what it all means. so far what i gather from the vid is this. its modern minstrel stuff going on in the music industry hence the koolaid and chicken. And i noticed the lamborghini symbol was a golden calf which would mean that ppl are putting that car above a lot of things and are materialistic, i notice alot of rappers get lambos as soon as they can afford to. The black child watches that mess and then the cop comes and stops to watch the vid before arresting the child. That shows how the cops think black kids life aren’t worth anything and think well the child must be like these blacks on tv. Then the white child comes and watches nature shows and the news. It shows lions hunting, maybe that represents the saying that until the lion tells his side of the story the tale of the hunt will always glorify the hunter. Then it flips to the news, and that could show how whites watch the news and assume everything they watch is true and get their world views from a biased news media. The meeting represents who is in charge of the images we see and notice how the only black person at the meeting is a goon and everybody else is white. THe kkk guy shows how white supremacists enjoy watch black ppl degrade each other and don’t have to do much anymore and see how the ppl that are against the vid are a priest, a teacher, etc but the ppl in favor of it are the executive,the kkk guy and the goon and con man. That shows how the ppl who are in favor of it are of higher standing and have the final say, the executive gets to choose and is giving the thumbs up. THe black man that puts on the kkk hood, shows how some black ppl are wolves in sheeps clothing they are white washed, they look like us but act like white supremacists and are just as bad for us.
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@ peanut
OOH pick me picke me. rofl. naw i can’t go right now, i gotta save,learn, and work. shoot when i’m ready i’d love to go somewhere with u ooh and mary burrel and adeen, girls day out we international baby.lol
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@ peanut
rofl they must think oh if we put someone with black skin on here they should listen. i’m against rioting as well, but am not going to make a psa about it.smh. they probably say don’t raise a fist instead read a book lmbao. what no kumbaya and we shall overcome playing in the background? i just wonder why they would use a latino girl,if this don’t really concern them, it is white women with this mans fate in their hands and it was a white latino male who killed this black child And it was the police department that didn’t do their job. what next they gonna use obama, or use mlk,smh. when will they learn we are not a dam monolith.
my plan for the next 2 yrs is to get healthy, figure out what my calling is and go to college, and get back to saving my money, so i can travel.
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mstoogood4yall,
I think everyone has that problem with whatever Lupe puts out. That’s why I love him so much. I pretty much got the same thing from the video.the
The black guy in the kkk suit at the end is Lupe.
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Hi Peanut,
I wanted to respond to the comment that you made on Resegregation of American Schools:
“MY RESPONSE:
I agree and disagree…I think it’s a hybrid emotion…something between repulsion and fixation.
On the one hand, they are repulsed and frightened by her, on the other hand they are fixated on her, curious…the combination of emotions can be confusing…and we actually talked about this in one of my African-American women’s studies courses in college, it’s like cognitive dissonance.
I remember we studied sarah baartman and one thing we talked about how the people especially the European men were repulsive by her features, her larger buttocks, her body etc…but yet they paid money just to go and look at her private parts and booty… and she made money by having sex with white men during the latter part of her life…
my professor who has her PHD said that often white males who wrote about Black women during the antebellum, colonial and Jim Crow era would display this type of cognitive dissonance a type of repulsion, but at the same time fascination, fixation…and odd behavior would be exhibited by them as it related to this cognitive dissonance.”
For a long time i thought that Black women were mistreated by white men because they thought us to be “ugly”, “unfeminine” or what have you…but as i have kept my eyes open–the truth of the matter is they ARE and have been historically aggressive towards Black women simply because they are attracted BOTH physically and sexually to Black women. Even white women are attracted to Black women!
I don’t give much weight to theories saying anything opposite–the proof is in history and modern times. You brought up a point about fascination. You are right, but to be fascinated with someone the polar opposite of you, there has to be a strong point of attraction to keep the interest alive.
I have been in situations at work where white men will all of a sudden become hostile towards me when just the other day, that same white man was being normal. At first this was the strangest behavior, but then i begin to realize that the hostility only came when there were other whites around. If i were in a situation where it was just me and a white man in the copy room, then he would actually try to flirt! Not all white men are this way. I have meet those who treat women like women no matter her race or who is around to watch, but the ones i described above are pretty common. So, i don’t think the Black woman is the cause of the repulsion; no those particular white men are repulsed at having to uphold a paradigm where it says he cannot openly express his attraction to Black women, so they place their frustration directly onto the object of desire.
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Cont. from above:
Now on to those weird acting white women…
There are have been white girls that were in my classes this past year who were nothing short of obsessed! I was the only Black person in that cohort of six students. I usually left my folder (with lesson plans, time sheets,) at my school placement where i was interning. The one white girl had that placement the fall semester, so she would always stop by after school to chat and do homework. One afternoon i left her there because i had errands after school. She sent a text to me later saying that i had left my folder and that she went through my stuff to be certain i did not need anything for our university classes the next day.
Hello!! When has it become polite to go through people’s things without their permission first?! From then one, i became very wary of leaving anything of mine, even scraps of paper, around her. The other Black girl was in the same program but in a different cohort so we barely saw each other. She and i would always plan to meet up when we had time. She wanted me to meet one of her sorority sisters and my cohort invited me to lunch, but i declined because my friend had been asking me for the longest to meet her soror. I had a great time with them.
When i saw that same white girl from my cohort again she asked why didn’t i go to lunch with them. I said because me and my friend went to hang out. Then she started asking the weirdest questions: what did we do? who did we meet? until finally i had to tell her it was nothing that should concern her. Her tone was also authoritative. When i backed her off me she said, “well i was just wondering because you usually come with us”, which was damned lied.
I mean how does a Black person explain such behavior?? I have not had Black people or other people of color act this way towards me.
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Hi Abagond,
May i contact you about something?
Thanks,
Phoebe
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ZIMMERMAN HAS BEEN FOUND “NOT GUILTY” OF THE MURDER OF TRAYVON MARTIN.
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smh
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Are any of you guys involved in a civil rights organization? Can you recommend any? Would you recommend joining the NAACP?
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@ solesearch: I have always asked the question is the NAACP even relevant today? With all the injustices perpetrated against Black people, I have asked this question repeatedly. I don’t think the NAAACP is as strong as it used to be as in the Civil Rights era. But then again Black people are not as cohesive a group today as then. No, I don’t belong to a civil rights group. But maybe Black people as a collective should think about joining one. Where were the NAACP for Trayvon Martin’s family? They could have used their help. Were they even involved?
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Mary, NAACP has a petition out right now asking the DOJ to investigate GZ for violating Trayvon’s civil rights.
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@solesearch, I just read that the website crashed, 10000 signatures. I think that’s great. I will sign it as well.
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hello, i don´t live in America, i´m a black man born and living in an European country. I´m following this blog silently for a while now. And i want to say that i have a much more comprehensive understanding of my own past and present situation, thank you sisters and brothers.
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I found an NAACP branch an hour away from where I live. After three phone calls someone finally answered the phone. The lady sounded elderly. When I told her I was thinking about joining, instead of selling me on the organization, she simply told me she would send a membership form. When I asked her what all do they do she sputtered around for a moment then said, “When someone has a problem they call the NAACP for help, then the NAACP goes through the judicial system to help them.” That didn’t sound very appealing to me, as it seems so reactive. Fighting the urge to thank her and hang up, I pressed her a little bit more and she said they also try to educate young people about the NAACP. She said they need more young people and by young she means people in their 30s and 40s.
That encouraged me to at least keep investigating the organization. The NAACPs reactive stance is probably just a symptom of not having enough active people, specifically young people. They need new blood to produce new ideas and the energy to see those ideas through.
She is supposed to mail some info to me, so maybe that will give me a better idea of this branch. The fact that she is mailing the info instead of emailing it lets me know these people need serious help. They don’t even have a website. How are they going to get younger or new members with virtually no internet presence?
I’m still looking for other organizations in my area but so far no luck.
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ok toronto girl
i’m not gonna fight over some canadian bacon u can have him *waves white flag* btw he’s been seen with this dominican chick so good luck with prying him away from her. but this ones mine http://img.poptower.com/pic-32372/rick-fox.jpg?d=600
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Lol u can have him, he’s overrated! And I think that’s his sister lol…drake doesn’t do new friends…but I’m an exception
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I mean this one hmm mark taylor.
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You want Frank Ocean too!
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Ok ok, the 2nd guy is cute…lol
@Peanut I love your blog
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Rachel Jentel was offered a full scholarship to any HBCU and tutors, they said they would help her. That to me is very generous. God bless her. Much success to that young lady.
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The Tom Joyner of the Tom Joyner Morning show offered Rachel Jentel the scholarship. ^^^
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@ peanut
Great post
@ mary
That is great news, hopefully she accepts. I think she has potential to do something.
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@mstoogood4yall: I hope so too. How are you, little sister?
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oh im good considering all the genocide going on with our youth. saw an interesting 2 hour vid on youtube about eugenics and how whites have been saying that unless we are serving them there is no use for us. Just more confirmation on what we already suspect.
so how u doing? I see u keep saying ur are thinking about malcolm sitting with his rifle. Interesting. I do enjoy alot of his quotes especially the one about comparing coffee to integration.
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@ Mstoogood4yall; I don’t know. Maybe it was internalizing all the bad vibes from the verdict stuff over the weekend. It’s just weird. Plus that picture is really kinda Hott! I know that’s probably kind of sacrilegious. But I have a sick sense of humor sometimes. But you got to admit that picture of a strong black man is is just sexy. Black men back then protected their Black women and children. No way Malcolm would have let the white folks talk about his wife and kids and let that slide,like Obama. Obama has no spine.
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Maybe I just like that photograph. Don’t judge me.
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yes this image is hott http://westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/malcolm-x-rifle.jpg
i can’t lie i like a man in deep thought like this too
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Nothing more beautiful than a man with strength and more importantly knows how to use it. Yes a black man that is a protector like that and is empathetic to black women’s struggles “The most disrespected person in America is the black woman. The most neglected person in America is the black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the black woman.” *melts* They don’t make em like him anymore, or when they are they limited edition u better get yours while supplies last rofl
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@mstoogoodyyall: Little sister, you need to share your courage with the world and the community. You are so bright. You need to use your gifts. Words fitly spoken. You are gifted use your gifts,and strength. Help your fellow young people. I am impressed. And I hope you find a soulmate to complement you, who is equally as gifted as you. You got what it takes to be a mover and a shaker. I like Ghandi’s quote: ” Be the change you want to see in the world”.
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^ aw thanks mary. I never consider myself to be those things because i am kinda shy. But it is weird that my parents and i visited a church like in months ago and some there had the gift of prophesy. And one told me that she senses that i am a leader. Like i said im not into telling ppl what to do but listening and making suggestions. We as black people don’t need leaders as most sell us out jesse did it the naacp does it. I think we need motivators. I have alot to do for myself before i can help others but one day i do want to help black youth in some way, especially reach out to the girls.
It would be nice to meet a great man but if i don’t well that means i’ll have more time and energy to dedicate to everybody else.
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@ peanut
Yeah good for her i am cheering right now * silently of course don’t wanna wake the neighborhood lol. That’s one victory. That is what we need to do on a grand scale stop supporting these ppl and watch it crumble woohoo.
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@ Mstoogood4yall: Stir up your gifts. The world needs young people like you that are on fire, Be a mover and a shaker. Hat tip to that sister that shut juror’s book foolishness down good for her. She used her power. That was excellent.
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That’s what I call channeling your anger and turning into something positive. She shut that foolishness down.
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Stevie Wonder is boycotting the state of Florida, until SYG law is abolished. I think that’s great.
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u know i’m nosy. I think u should go for it peanut, age aint sheit its the mental that counts. my brother dated young women and it didn’t work out but it wasn’t because of age it was maturity. So peanut if u are mature, and I think u are, then it shouldn’t matter. U closer in age to him than I am, sheit u let me be older and have my sheit together i’d holla. rofl. I mean u say the men ur age act kinda colorstruck and goofy, and want a man that is mature and would treat u right like ur father. well no offense but they don’t really make em like that anymore. If u can find someone that is close to that but has some things that are differences well that don’t really matter. If that person acts a certain way and its one of ur dealbreakers then leave them alone. but if its something like age, weight, and height, well that isn’t necessarily a very important thing, compared to personality, how they treat others, and their respect for themselves and others. Heck my aunt is in her forties and married to a man that is in his sixties but u know black don’t crack so he look like he in his fifties. rofl 🙂
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Peanut:
awww shucks…I’m blushing over here. Had I been white, I’d be “Colored” red. ^_^
mstoogood4yall:
The way i see it, if a young woman, wants to experience love from a man, from her own age bracket, its only natural.
I believe that young love is something that everyone should experience, at least once in their life, being you’re only young once and will never get a chance at being young again.
I remember when i was seventeen, like it was yesterday…..
*sings
When I was 17……, I drank some very good beer.
I drank some very good beer I purchased with a fake ID…..
My name was Brian McGee.
I stayed up listening to Queen, when I was 17…
*cries @ : o ( ) >
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@Sondis
I am 17 and I listen to Queen. I loooooove Queen the band so much. My favorite song by them is Bohemian Rhapsody and my favorite member of the group is Freddie Mercury although he is long gone sad to say.
I guess I have it easy as a 17 year old, huh? I just wish I had a nice guy by my side. And honestly I see myself with a non Black guy the way I see things are going in IR.
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@ Peanut
You will have to wait till Saturday for the Black Exodus post: Obama just talked about race, probably his biggest statement since the Rev Wright affair. He said that HE could have been Trayvon Martin 35 years ago.
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Okay, can I hijack this thread for a moment? Something happened at work the other day and I want to get your opinions about it. I work in a office where I am the only person who is not white or Middle-Eastern. We are a cab company and I process orders. During a recent morning shift, two things happened:
1) A woman called to complain about a company driver who’d cut off her husband in traffic. She said it was unsafe, etc… she also mentioned that he was an African American driver. Specifically. And said something ( I couldn’t fully understand because of her accent and b/c we were not speaking my first language) that I think meant she was talking about black drivers as a group of people in a negative way. I said that I was an African American and I did not behave that way. She said I hope not b/c … the conversation continued. I didn’t know what else to say. I wish I’d said something less respectful to her, less… concilliatory. Her behavior was completely understandable as a human being, but also inappropriate. THAT is an example of a micro-agression. And I am encouraged to hang up on people who curse at me, but I sense that my co-workers would have looked down on me if I’d hung up on her, even though her words were sort of equivalent towards me as a Black person. My dispatcher did tell me to throw away the info I’d taken down, but mostly b/c we don’t bother with traffic complaints and he felt that clients from wealthier areas (she was one) complained too much in general.
2) That same day, another woman called, sounding like she was from the islands. Anyhow, after her cab, she called back to say that the driver had argued with her about her baby stroller. And then, as he was driving away, he called her a “stupid Black bitch”. I told my dispatcher, who checked the driver and spoke to him. The driver was known as a decent person, and not a troublemaker unlike some other drivers who rack up complaints. He then told me to throw away the complaint information, which I did. The woman could easily have been lying, but maybe she wasn’t. Is this what you guys talk about when you say whites are dismissive of Black testimony and minimize or deny racism?
I feel very ambivalent about these issues. I’m wondering if the first lady who called is right, and the stereotype is true; after all, some stereotypes of whites are true as well, as many on this blog think, right? I wondered if the second woman was dishonest, or whether the dispatcher simply didn’t want to deal with such a heinous complaint. Certainly, if it had come from a white woman from a wealthier district, I don’t think he would have thrown out the complaint (I wouldn’t believe as much for a working-class white district).
So I wanted some opinions. If I’m being inappropriate with this comment, I understand. I wanted to talk about this with people who won’t give me an answer “colored” by white privilege and denial. But I also don’t agree with every poster or article on this blog. So anyhow, what will be will be. Thanks for reading.
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@Anus
Not a good incident at all. I believe that this country was never meant for us.
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abagond
Obama just talked about race, probably his biggest statement since the Rev Wright affair. He said that HE could have been Trayvon Martin 35 years ago.
Its about time! He finally decided to talk, directly to the black community.
I’m off to, “Theroot.com to see what articles they put up on Obama’s speech, it’ll hold me over until abagond’s post is created. ^_^
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these ppl stay talking about black women’s body a dam doctor. smh
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/15/doctor-diagnoses-woman-ghetto-booty_n_3599590.html
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Peanut
That is nasty, but not surprising. here’s a link to these nasty males doing searches on black males. smh its like we on the dam auction block all over again
http://host.madison.com/news/state-and-regional/wis-officer-pleads-no-contest-in-strip-search/article_6bde9d81-5d54-51d0-90c7-2c2734266d8b.html
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I’m not a slave. My next serious investment WILL be a handgun. I won’t tolerate any PinkSkin civilian or PinkSkin cop doing me bodily harm.
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@peanut
Yeah I know what u mean. I can tell it came from his heart and was something he went through, but he will not do anything about it. He will not have a federal charge against Zimmerman. I just want to see when the whites attack him for saying this, if he will tuck his tail between his legs and apologize, or will he stand his ground and say no this is an issue that needs to be publicized and discussed. we shall see….
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Hey Abagond can you do a post on Delphine LaLaurie of Louisiana please.
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Agabond, can you do a post on this article written back in 2009 and compare it to what is going on in politics today? http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/01/the-end-of-white-america/307208/
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Interesting Article about Peru
http://news.yahoo.com/lima-where-pallbearers-black-075929226.html
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@ King
That article is interesting. Never heard of it, its like paula deens dream of wanting blacks at a wedding serving ppl. They have only blacks carrying the casket smh. Its like they want blacks to stay in servant roles, its like even in death yall are going to serve me.
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@ King & Mstoogood4yall: I just clicked on to the link and saw the blacks in Lima, Peru. Everyone wants to keep black people down. Keep the black man and woman in their place and stay subservient. Damn shame.
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@ mstoogood4yall & mary burell.
It’s funny because the FIRST thing I thought about was Paula Deen!! Haha!
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@ mary
Hey. I watched bamboozled it was interesting. its like back then they used to put on black face to make fun of us, now they use black faces to make fun of us. sadly there will always be a black person willing to play those roles, especially if they may not be able to find work. It was interesting how they got the black ppl’s approval then the whites were enjoying it as well. And how he got awards when he did that, but before he didn’t.And before he got awards he was against it especially when they changed it, but when the awards came he didn’t care anymore. And the white boss was trying to act black and telling the black ppl how to be black smh. It’s what we see today where black actors play to stereotypes to get awards, and when they don’t they get nothing. Or how white directors tell the black actors to act blacker aka more stereotypical. It was funny to me when the gang got killed by the police except the white guy trying to act black and he was sayin no i’m black why u didn’t kill me rofl. The crazy thing about it is jada and damon wayans ended up playing stereotypical roles in other shows and movies smh.
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@ mstoogood4yall: It was crazy wasn’t it? Drop Squad and Good Fences are good too.
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^ yes it was, i’ll have to look up those other movies thanks.
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@ peanut
![](https://i0.wp.com/hotchocolatefinder.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/052008.jpg)
Hmm. this one fine too
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Hmmm my my my all these men on here YESSSSsS \\
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/sexy%20black%20men
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^^^^^
Nice! I’m a married woman. But I ain’t dead. I definitely can appreciate God’s beautiful creations, lol. Since we are sharing, http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Jay+Ellis/Relativity+Media+Movie+43+Los+Angeles+Premiere/9bM0oPpMcW6. 😀
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Talk about putting in all on the table hot dam
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http://talldaddy.tumblr.com/post/27862225816/www-talldaddy-tumblr-com
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Dang lifelearner he fine but can’t u see we lookin at men without suits on rofl
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He is sexy, the man in the picture but how come President Obama avoids Black issues like the plague? And now all of a sudden, when Trayvon’s situation comes up, he starts speaking up? That should tell you how much he cares for the Black Community! I respect President Obama but I was expecting him to do more for our Community. At least, he realized that that this could have happened to him when he was Trayvon’s age. That is a step in process.
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Ho. Ly. SHIT!
This, Brothers and Sisters, is the exit plan. Use it for your Exodus post. Thank me later (and by “later”, I mean in your post lol).
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLPFwL-nBJM)
And the Chinese have invested Billions already.
We have to ensure that this spreads like wildfire.
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If you have the time, you should really check this story out.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-R5YNZxj2E)
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Oh, you should also watch the second half of the story (fist half in currently stuck in moderation)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qct_fDjiQE)
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The idea of a mass black exodus is dangerous. A lot of people see James David Manning as a sellout Uncle Tom, but even “race realists” like Ron Untz are noting the economic displacement of blacks by immigrants in low-skill sectors of the economy. Even the mainstream media has noted the ethnic cleansing of L. A. by new arrivals.
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Dont know if it is to your taste Abagond but thought some of the people on here might like it
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piIuME8rVak)
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Current schedule:
Monday: George Stinney
Tuesday: Black Exodus
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So…any opinions about what happened at my workplace last week?
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@ Anon Ymous
Idk. On one hand ur boss could just not give a fk about complaints he just don’t want to hear it or deal with it. If that woman said he called her a stupid black b. then he should’ve looked into it, he probably would’ve if a white woman said a black driver called her a stupid white b. The only thing I can think of is for u to remember or write down what the driver said and see if there are other complaints against him by black ppl and other minorities. Idk why a woman would lie about being called a stupid black b. but if someone else calls and complains about him make a note, the more ppl complain about him the better it will be for them to see its not an isolated incident or that oh he was just having a bad day. He should be professional at all times.
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@ peanut
I saw that article and
Tariq elite said this and I agree:
So #zimmerman was strong enough to lift people up out of an SUV, but he wasn’t strong enough to push a scrawny 17 year old off of him?Gotcha
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Thanks for responding Peanut. I think it’s definitely about race, and I think he would have taken it seriously if the comment were “stupid white b.” I also think there are other factors like class involved. The driver didn’t have a history of complaints. And the workplace is stressful. But if he keeps that up, he will get a reputation. And once he has that, it doesn’t matter if he says it’s true or not because the record speaks. Who knows maybe he’s known as a ‘nice guy’ with non-minorities. Or maybe she was being rude and he responded with racial violence verbally.
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@ ANon Ymous
There are different levels to racism, a lot of times we are left scratching our head and wondering if we just experienced racism or not. If a pattern develops then we realize our gut was right. here’s an interesting link on the different levels of racism http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/02/microaggression.aspx
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Lovely poem dedicated to Trayvon Martin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=w9qxaRE3-EI#at=249)
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@ Peanut
I got it.
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John Henry Spooner, gets life sentence in prison for killing 13 year old Darrius Simmons. I am pleased about that. His fossilized butt will be in prison for the rest of his natural life. What’s left of it anyway. Justice was met in that case. Thank God.
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@ mary
That is good. at least the just his system did something right this time, even if the old coot don’t have much time left anyway. so I guess that is it, their bucket list to kill a ni@@r before they die.
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@ Mstoogood4yall: I think you are right. I must retire now. TTYL.
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@ peanut
U know if it was a car full of black men, he probably would’ve pulled a Bernhard Goetz, shot all of them then say they were going to rob me or whoop my ass for revenge. Either that or he’d use it as a way to say look i’m not racist I helped these poor negroes escape their overturned truck. At least we know his behind is still in florida.
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Ok back from NY and I can say I am just sick of whites trying to justify their ignorance. Read a post from on posing the question of how can we stop the next trayvon Martun and it was riddled with what the Black Community needs to fix. I mean seriously….
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Hey are any of you participating in the trayvonMartin bblackout. It bwgins 8/1 and end 2/26/14.
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^ I didn’t hear about the blackout, I searched and all I see is the one that happened before the verdict was read. put a link up to the website plz. now if the blackout means no computer a part of me will die. smh
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Here is the link. http://www.trayvonmartinblackout.com/
It encourages spending on black businesses as much as possible. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Black-Owned-Business-Network/111930052157814
I have already started some of this to prepare, but I am excited about this movement as well as the large movement of black people. I do doubt I buy too much from white owned business after the movement either.
Also read an article in regards to the black jury saying Zimmerman got away with murder. She apologizes to Martin family.
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I will admit somethings will be trouble for me. Tv (kids) or computer and phone but I think it will be drastically cut at least for this movement.
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Juror B29, speaks out and she is of Puerto rican descent. She was the one hold out. She said George Zimmerman got away with murder!
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Dude i swear:
bots/trolls dressed as “Black women bashers” are all over the freakin net…
They even came on Blerd blogs last night where the discussions were about cosplay conventions, African graphics and gaming!
Why can’t they just stay in their own corners on the net?
signed
#mymorningrant,
Phoebe
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A Black person form the nation of Puerto Rico, yes.
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I probably should have dropped this into one of the old “Blacks and Intelligence” threads, but it’s too much work. Cool article.
http://news.yahoo.com/4-year-old-with-iq-of-145-becomes-mensa-s-newest-member-141316099.html
Girl Power!
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@Peanut
I do agree that integration doesn’t work at all. Toward the end of the Civil Rights Movement, Blacks in AmeriKKKlan should have separated from White people and built their own communities and made their own businesses instead of integrating with Whites. Now that Blacks integrated with Whites, the values in the Black Community went down now that many of us are trying to fit in with Whites.
I do contribute the lack of Black pride in the Black Community to integration but what really went wrong in the Black Community?
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That little girl is cute and she is smart wow. I also saw a vid where a black toddler knew 4 languages, black kids can do anything as long as they have the right foundation and parents that teach them instead of the school. Oh and did u hear about the 14 yr old black girl that graduated college with a bachelors degree in psychology her mom homeschooled her. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=im+teaching+my+toddler+4+languages&view=detail&mid=8A0F3FC28C7E85949E198A0F3FC28C7E85949E19&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR
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http://newsone.com/2635319/thessalonika-arzu-embry-graduates-college-at-14-video/
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That is excellent news. This reopens my thoughts on home schooling my daughter. I do feel it will simply be a better place for her to learn and be open to the reality of history rather than whitewashed history.
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Also hearing more black parents taking to homeschooling.
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And I was planning on making an all Black school when I grow up. If I had kids in the future since I am young now, I will make sure the kids are full Black not mixed, I would homeschool them to learn real history too not Whitewashed Eurocentric crap learned in public schools.
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I think u should try it Sharina. I was homeschooled but my mom used their whitewashed curriculum. I think one of the best options is to hire a black tutor and u can tell them what u want ur child to learn. Or u could make up ur own. Here is a website I think is interesting.
http://theblackacademy.com/index.php
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Anyone going to see or has seen fruitvale station?
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I am thinking of seeing “Fruitvale Station” – I would be interested too in knowing what people thought of it.
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@ mary, Linda, Legion, Irish, V8, etc.
Only now have I skimmed the:
“Bulanik is a plagiarist. She couldn’t possibly be a rote memorizer” discussion way back in May on this thread since I last commented.
I am taken aback by the assumptions and opportunism to bash, I must admit
But, on reflection, it’s not really surprising.
First, I am left wondering where I said I was “going” or “leaving”.
In fact, I didn’t saying anything. Did I miss something?
I had been dealing with 3 things in my life — a new business, a major surgery, family — and was tired, tired, tired. Meantime I thought thought this subject had blown over without much ado.
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Also, supposedly, I have something against Fiamma? I don’t.
Didn’t I say so! When did start that others put words into my mouth?
Fiamma is cool as far as I am concerned.
That feeling may not be mutual, but so what. It doesn’t matter if I rate someone.
Commenters might not remember a very, very strange thing, but on a previous occasion that Fiamma went or said she was going (on the African Queen thread), I asked her not to.
When she returned, I greeted her back.
Wasn’t this what Fiamma said when I noticed her comments shortly after:
Here:
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@ Kwamla, you allude to assumption-making and mis-understanding.
Wise words.
Yet, although you do not know my reasons for wishing my comments deleted, you also believe that request was “childish”.
Well, you can’t have it both ways, LOL.
For me, Abagond was quick — TOO QUICK — to pass judgment on me, to join in…
He was also sure, very sure, about what he could and could not “buy” about me, obviously because he knows me (!) and all about my learning issues (the way I learned to speak/read/write) far more than I ever could!
😀
What is more, he did not ask me to reconsider my request to delete what he obviously has never appeared to value before from a commenter he has “un-personed”, casually insults and and usually does not reply to.
Whilst this discussion was going on, I was abroad, did not see any of it, and did not comment. I suppose that is why so many assumptions abound.
Also, when I said this about music and the oud:
“What this musician/shop owner told me and believed, was that the lute developed in a culture that started to favour polyphonic chordal harmony while the oud developed in a culture that started to favour greater micro-tonal complexity. There was no need to eliminate frets for the lute, but much need to do so with the oud.”
Oh no, it couldn’t have come from what Iearned from the Chinese man I used to visit in his Eastern music shop in Camden Town London, this one:
(If the link doesn’t show up, it’s there on Rayman Eastern Music Shop, and the particular man I am talking about is Sifu Joseph Man, music teacher and Eastern music historian. If the clip works you can see a variety of ouds and the man himself at around 1.41.) I wouldn’t be surprised if this man had taught a large number of people about Eastern music and instruments in his time, or that his words found themselves on the lips of those who were interested in what he had to say in more than one place.
But never mind.
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Respect Bulanik,
I know it may be hard but can you find it within you to let it all go? I see you have pushed the “restart” button by commenting when you can and I am happy to see you. You’ve been missed by me and others.
As far as assumptions of you leaving — who wouldn’t assume that after the big blow-out between you and BR, then you and Fiamma…and then you asked for comments to be deleted.
so, it wasn’t too far a jump for me to think you were leaving — and if you did, totally understandable that you would want to have a “cool out” moment (a good idea so that everyone can step back and catch their breaths) because you also missed the blow-out/blow-back that followed and Abagond deleted those comments.
I know it’s difficult to deal sometimes because of different or strong personalities on this board, it can get rough. I admire how you’ve managed to stay “lady-like” through some of the dirt that gets thrown. (unlike me with my “bun a ras” moments) Disagreements are normal and can sometimes be healthy for a discussion but that episode between you 3 was very Ugly and does not need to be resurrected.
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@ Linda, yes Respect, miluv. 😀
Re assumptions about leaving: Linda you’re absolutely right.
Reflecting on it, it’s only natural that you had thought I had “left” .
(Since then, I had asked Abagond to forward my email details to you earlier this month.)
In any case, may I ask you if you could possibly know my intentions in commenting here? because I was under the impression that I was actually silent on this thread for a couple months and only stumbled on this thread out of curiosity TODAY.
That’s it.
Since then, I’ve asked myself whether a commenter must lift up her skirt for all to see underneath in order for what she says out of her mouth to be believed. The answer is no, but I think you know what I mean.
Linda, I do not come here to dig up what is best left in the past.
I only skimmed and stopped at some some comments and wasn’t impressed by it’s content and management.
However, don’t regular contributors here also have certain entitlements? and expectations from Abagond? It is the blog-keeper who sets the tone and it is he who keeps the gate. This is both difficult and simple.
I do not envy him this task.
Perhaps it simply easier to judge before ASKING.
Perhaps it is easier to be un-interested in the reasons one of his regular contributors feels the way she does because it’s never occurred to him that he could have treated her better, or even attempted a conversation with her instead.
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Neither you or I need to be spoken to and managed like we were 12 year olds.
I have said my piece.
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@ Abagond
*typo correction, please replace “his content and management” with “it’s content and management”.
Thank you.
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@ Sharina & all interested
Negress has a great post on her blog talking about the companies that we should boycott that are florida based. check it out.
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@ Abagond
*typo correction, please replace “his content and management” with “it’s content and management”.
Thank you.
@ Linda, but wait a moment.
Again you are presuming, and in doing so, I believe you are in error.
In all this assumption-making and relish taken to put Bulanik down at last — let’s face it, this was what this about and you damn well know it, too — did anyone, including you, consider why generally I prefer to to remain tight-lipped about my work or past or personal life? And did Abagond, who sets the tone and keeps the gate? Didn’t he act as judge, jury and executioner, so over-confident about things he knows nothing about (i.e., me and my life) — and telling us about VANITY — even bother to consider when he was putting words into my mouth?
He obviously thought he could, because he also assumed “she’s already gone” and couldn’t answer back, too, didn’t he?
How fucking SURE some of you were that I not could not only memorize, but couldn’t possibly — not even remotely — have anything to do with what I did not put quotation marks around?
How fucking SURE some of you were that, at one time in my life, couldn’t have moved in circles, struck up friendships, have had personal relationships with, attended seminars, researched with, taken minutes for, made suggestions about wording or direction — or whatever — with the writer/activists, artists, singer/songwriters that were cited here?
Because, for sure, I had to have “stolen” (!) all that.
It could not possibly have come from my head.
No, of course not. I could not have shared in the formulation.
Impossible, of course. It would be too threatening if it was otherwise, right?
I am not comfortable disclosing, I prefer not to name-drop. I don’t like to betray confidences and my life belongs to me.
As I said above, I don’t like to lift up my skirt.
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@ Linda
I respect you and your intentions.
But, even though I might be more “speaky-spokey” than you, please. do. not. underestimate. me. I didn’t just come off the boat, with two-two brain cell to rub together.
I won’t take part in my own gaslighting.
You know what I mean.
(BTW: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/gaslighting/)
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@ Bulanik
Type corrected.
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@ mstoogood4yall
Thanks
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“Bulanik,
In all this assumption-making and relish taken to put Bulanik down at last — let’s face it, this was what this about and you damn well know it, too — did anyone, including you, consider why generally I prefer to to remain tight-lipped about my work or past or personal life?”
Linda says,
Bulanik, you’re supposed to remain “mum” about your personal life or rather, put out as little as possible on the Internet, to make sure people can’t use things against you.
I agree that someone was “out to get you” and the issue brought up was a gift. Those of us who Respect the information you brought in, did not pass judgment on you (and I got “told off” on your behalf, by the way, since you remained silent and I got vocal on your behalf — things got very ugly and Abagond deleted those posts) — so I am not sure what you mean about me “presuming” things or “under-estimating you”
Everyone is entitled to defend themselves against what they think is unjust. I’m just saying that I don’t like to see you, having to take 2 steps down in the mud, over and over with the same person… it’s not constructive because it’s now personal between the 2 of you… and I’m sure, you don’t come to this blog for all that.
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@Bulanik
Well, Bulanik, *I* still like you and think you do some of the best work here.
Next to Abagond of course.
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“I agree that someone was “out to get you” and the issue brought up was a gift. ”
I mean who the heck was “out to get Bulanik..”? I want to make this very clear, I was never out to fuking “get Bulanik”…anyone who thinks I ever was is bullsh!tting themselves
This is turning into a hilarious joke…I know exactly what the fuk went down
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Whatever you say, BR….
you, me and everyone else was here, for quite some time, reading the same comments between you and Bulanik — so stop trying to insult my or anyone else’s reading capabilities.
You can also call me by name, because as you know, if you want to get started with me, I’m always ready to dance…
as I said to Bulanik, not interested in re-hashing all the Bullsh’t… at this point, it’s over … that’s why Abagond scrubbed almost all that mess and it needs to stay gone.
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@ peanut
are u ok? who u calling that or are u just seeing if it is a moded word or not?
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Wow, Peanut… I hope that explosion of emotion wasn’t meant for me…
I know you don’t really speak to me, so I Know, I haven’t done anything to personally offend you.
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thanks for clarification…. hope everything is going OK for you
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Wow, look at this sad and horrifying story:
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141662357/incentives-and-cultural-bias-fuel-foster-system
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Anybody here cosplay?
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Well , Linda , if you think Im the one out to get Bulanik, you are darn real I have a problem with you. Its exactly this notion that Im some kind of stalker , or “out to get Bulanik”, that I have been arguing so hard against…that insult my intelligence
Just bring it Linda, show where I am a stalker…just show how Im out “to get Bulanik..”…no I dont fuking like that manipulating conniving sh!t …of creating the notion I am a stalker ….if you cant understand that , then we have a problem…and Im tired of this sh!t…but if people bring up my name , Im going to respond and defend the wrong implications flying my way…and I saw the post deleted tying my name with Fiamma , which is ridiculas , Fiamma has nothing to do with me, we barely communicate on here
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Linda , the question I have for you is, do you think I stalked Bulanic in any form or fasion?
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@ Phoebeprunelle
No I don’t. I do like video games but not to the point I wanna dress up as them… ok maybe dressing up as atair from assassins creed would be cool lol. I can be a black female assassin. Anyway this chick likes cosplay and so do others here’s her blog http://www.blackgirlnerds.com/2012/11/cosplay-bgn-style.html
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I think cosplay is interesting its like if I could look bad like this
http://cosplayingwhileblack.tumblr.com/post/56179664408/misty-knight-by-conventiongirls-series-marvel
He11 yes lol.
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and if the male cosplay look like this I might join. http://cosplayingwhileblack.tumblr.com/ dam how u doin fine man I like ur outfit.
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http://cosplayingwhileblack.tumblr.com/#
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/84ee44ff8fcf3a56158f0274845d28ef/tumblr_mqaxx3FTvg1rztdgoo2_500.jpg hope it works this time if it does this the man I want to cosplay with
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@ peanut
I don’t even know what’s goin on all I remember is them going at it on the booty dancing thread and debating about Brazilian women.
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Definitely a site to bookmark, http://theblackmancan.org/
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love the message of this song http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dead+prez+beauty+within&view=detail&mid=761A3D93AF28DA7CA3FD761A3D93AF28DA7CA3FD&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR
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BR, I don’t think you were “Stalking” Bulanik and I’ve never said this (so please don’t put words in my mouth)
I know you and Bulanik had an argument about that, where she said “she felt like you were stalking her” and I know you were very hurt and upset by that.
Believe it or not, I’m not trying to fight with you — but I will give my opinion as to how I see things. (which I know you see differently)
I agreed with Bulanik that you were “out to get her” because you 2 can’t be civil to each other and the antagonism seems to always Start from you….
This antagonism seems to follow a predictable pattern (which has played out on so many threads for quite some time):
Abagond writes a post, the conversation would be going along, Bulanik would make comments, then eventually you would come along and challenge her statements — the back and forth begins, and sooner or later, a previous argument would enter into the argument and then it turns personal… and ugly.
(that’s why I said your arguments were like a song and dance)
so to me, it does seem like you’ve made it a personal mission to antagonize Bulanik when you get the chance; and then you get mad at me when I try to break it up because I don’t want to see you 2 fight.
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Linda , ok , I apreciate your breakdown…
I am perplexed at our conflicts ,I essentialy like your posts , I may not agree with everything you say , but,I like your South Florida perspective , I dont know why we butted heads sometimes, but thanks for reserving a dance space for me
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you’re welcome and No hard feelings, BR…
it’s the “Latina” in me that sets you off… you’re responding to my “passionate” nature (my big mouth) that gets me in trouble from time to time.
we butt heads because you don’t like that I defend Bulanik, when in all honesty, I’m just trying to “stop the madness” .. sometimes, I don’t even “know” what you 2 are arguing about.
I just don’t want the thread to be brought down because to me, everyone brings something to the table — you bring in a different perspective, especially on subjects that You feel passionate about; and for me, Bulanik. also brings in an informative perspective… I’m all about “learning” papi 🙂
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wow vagabond
that article was crazy, i’m glad they got their kids back but that is f’d up they can take them away like that based on a dam rumor.smh. reminds me of American violet movie. Dang i’m mad now, its messed up that white women have kids and do all kinds of sheit dui, prescription pills,etc and not get any jail time or have their kids taken away. But at least they stood together and stuck it to them and got the kids back, the power of being united. if somebody were to take my future kids away like that I can’t say what I’d do. sheit i’d oj simpson their ass and storm in there and take my kids back then send my kids somewhere where they couldn’t take them. Its a doggone shame they messed up native americans and now are trying to destroy them fully by taking them away from their homes and their culture. They really go after the babies and toddlers since they can’t remember much and will more easily accept new white American traditions and forget their native traditions. Ppl that say its post racial bs, if it is then show me where a black person or native person was able to take a white child and be the foster parent to them and adopt them against their parents will. Never happens because whites know they cannot allow their kids into the hands of the enemy. But i’m glad they threatened them with kidnapping charges and it worked, gotta stand up to these ppl they are mostly able to do their evil because of victims lack of knowing their rights, submissiveness and not being united.
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absolutly no hard feelings, Linda , and , I know you will speak your mind no matter what , and I apeciete your point of view , even if we disagree about some things
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@ peanut
That is crazy, a doggone shame she paid all that money and got crappy service. If/ when I have kids I would want to go with the cheaper more natural option and do a home birth or go to birthing center. my dad was born at home lol. and they do all kinds of stuff to babies when they are born and try to push their crazy vaccines, its like let the child breathe and build up an immune system before doing all those injections sheesh. That woman paid money and got bad service I hope she wrote a complaint or did something. This is why we need black hospitals, they just don’t care. I’ve seen too many articles of black ppl dying in hospitals because nobody did their job correctly and just gave them some pain pills and send them on their way. I still remember the two cases that stick out to me, the one with the black woman who died in the hospital waiting room and fell on the floor and nobody helped her even when they saw she was on the floor and she died from blood clots. and the other case of the black woman that told the doctors her legs felt numb and hurt yet they released her and when she refused to leave the cops showed up and arrested her she couldn’t even walk they had to carry her. Threw her in a cell and she died from blood clots and they sent her to the same dang hospital that didn’t help her, to try to resuscitate her but it was too late.
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Maybe they test the child of a black mother for drugs so they can have social services take the child away. That is what they want, and it would be easier to do that to a single mother so they assumed she was. And kids in foster in the past have been used to test drugs and vaccines. They probably assumed she couldn’t afford the private room, because they thought she was a single mother. They love assuming things and hate having to roll out the red carpet for a black person even when we pay for it smh. its the same reasoning they use when they pull over a black person driving a nice car, the police assume they stole it. They automatically assume black women are bad mothers and are unwed mothers.
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Greetings!
After stumbling across this site, I noticed on another thread (Sotomayor) that the subject of female testosterone and oestrogen levels came up.
Well, apparently, a higher testosterone level in women isn’t a bad thing. Quite the opposite in fact:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2253479/Why-women-stop-wanting-sex-Nearly-HALF-women-suffer-lost-libido-devastating-consequences-reasons-emerging.html
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Interesting, they think bw have higher testosterone levels and makes them think bw are jezebels all the while the so called more feminine less testosterone ones are not putting out rofl.
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OOOh that is one of my fave groups. I miss the 90’s female groups because they had great vocal ability and they were different shades. my mom told me when I was younger I would always get up and start dancing when the fresh prince of bel air theme song came on lol. I loved moesha and living single and hey Arnold and out of the box.
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oooh and I can’t forget one of my fave shows theme songs. http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=reading+rainbow+theme+song&view=detail&mid=263FD9F2DF8A1686756B263FD9F2DF8A1686756B&first=0&FORM=NVPFVR
Reading rainbow, I can be anything take a look its in a book reading rainbow!!!
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aw come on how is my reading rainbow comment in moderation?
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No that is not weird. It is good to have a father who is an example of a good man to show you the way in picking a good man for yourself.
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ugh all my comments in moderation. Peanut it is kinda unfair to try to have a man be exactly like ur father. It won’t happen, just like it is unfair for a man to compare his woman to his mom. U will never win that, it should be about sharing the love and adding to it. Now if there are certain things ur father does like be respectful, caring, etc and u find that is what u also want in a man that is fine. But if u want a man that is a mirror image of ur father that ain’t happening and it would make the man feel inadequate.
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^ ok well I don’t think anything is wrong with wanting a good man like ur father.
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wow how my comment in moderation.
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@ Ms Good, Peanut, etc
Yesterday was kind of crazy – all kinds of things were getting thrown to moderation. I screwed up a setting. It should be fine now.
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OK, that explains it. 😛
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@ Jefe or anyone
I was wondering if it is possible for me to acquire overseas schooling material etc. I am considering homeschooling and I was thinking of adding that bit to the curriculum.
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(http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R_oa_VEnNlA)
Agabond, you probably have already seen this video but I am posting it anyway.
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Shirina for what subject and how old is the child?
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Abagond,
if you feel like it, can you do a post on Why black Americans got mad at Don Lemon for telling the truth…why is being called an “uncle Tom” for telling the truth and stated he agreed with that a’shole Bill O’Reilly…
it’s not about Bill or any other white person — it seems No One can tell black America when black people are doing something “wrong” — when some black people are doing things that does not have a good look…
what does racism have to do with young black men looking like Bums because their pants are sagging — that look is Not Cute — since when does prison fashion represent black American culture — why were black people going after Don and condoning the BS
I took “facetothefloor” for his delivery of the same message that Don Lemon gave… so, When is it OK for black people to start self-reflecting…
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z8EA_4YNvw)
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She is 6 and any subject that would give her a leg up.
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I’m trying to give her a more worldly education instead of just what is taught in American schools.
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@ Linda
I personally can’t answer for every black person but what Don said rang true in that that was what I was taught. It is just disrespectful to sag your pants and say the n-word. So I don’t consider him an uncle tom.
I personally think it comes from not wanting to be judged simply based on what you wear. Many don’t see the harm in dressing a certain way. How one dresses is not going to determine if they commit a crime or not. This is just my thoughts on the matter, but I can’t really speak for everyone.
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Then if you are looking foreign Canada has a thick work book that is called the Complete Canadian Curriculum and they have it for every year. If you are sticking for extra in America then Brian Quest book for the grade your child is in. I recommend some games like MathSmart dominoes (personally even dominoes is a very good math game) for tackling math in a fun atmosphere. I even recommend to some of my parents to teach or find someone to teach their kid how to use an abacus (it helps out with mental math) I would later in about 4 or 5 suggest teaching them how to use a slide rule. For measurements I would suggest that cooking lessons teach fractions very well and dimension are found nicely in sewing.
If you want to teach her about the world I would check you tube. Watch National Geographic shows and get her opinion. Help her learn how to express what she sees and how to present information to people. Even thought it is American, Scholastic News use to do a lot of good things with world events and once again National Geographic has a wonderful site for kids.
If you are looking for alternative styles Eurythmic lesson plans are very nice for kids. Movement and learning what is not to like. I also recommend getting a kids science project book and doing some experiments with her. The world needs more female scientist and engineers.
You might even want to find her a pen pal. I think they still do them it has been a couple of years since I made arrangements between my school’s kids and kids from South America. If you have 4H clubs, YMCA, or things like that look into them if you haven’t. I got to visit many states that way and it was beneficial to have friends that weren’t school friends.
You could always do history projects. In which you pick a time in a countries history and find out as much as possible and later give each other reports on what you found. Like we tried to make mini mud brick houses and our class tried to recreate the great Zimbabwe. It must have been a really grand castle like place.
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@Sharina,
Check out IB (International Bacculaureate) Primary Years Programme sites. You can also locate some elementary schools in the nearest school district that has PYP and ask to get the name of the coordinator b/c they can point you to some really great resources.
And Core Knowledge Curriculum. I also think Cambridge curriculum has some stuff for elementary tikes as well.
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@ King of Trouble and phoebeprunelle
Thank you so very much.
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@ phoebeprunelle, the Cambridge catalogue is very good. I agree with your recommendation.
Sharina give me till tomorrow and I will give you some of the computer sites that I used as a teacher. Right now it is late and I am on and off with my son waking up and sleeping.
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Sharina, I hear you.
I kind of do get why people got Mad at Don Lemon because no matter how black people dress, talk, walk, speak, or how many degrees they get, white people will always have “white bias” and find something wrong or to use to discriminate…
Look what they are doing to Obama, how much more of a “coconut” can you get but somehow, white people actually took the time to find something “wrong” with him… he is basically bending over for them without Vaseline….
I just think that when it comes to correcting internal problems, black America need to take control of the Narrative…
I mean, suppose those statistics numbers (that the racists just LOVE to use) were to go away — then what could white people hide behind… they would have absolutely No ammunition to use to defend their weak, racist views.
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“he is basically bending over for them without Vaseline….”
Bahahaha, that gotta hurt, ooh that is so crazy.
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@Sharina,
KOT is an educator, so I think he can recommend some good materials to you. I wouldn’t be as resourceful in that area.
HOWEVER, given that your child is 6, I strongly suggest that you get her started on learning other languages, esp. ones like Chinese and Arabic and Hindi and Korean and Russian (but also Spanish and Portuguese, and traditional ones like French or Latin). It will be easier to start now. Unless you are already fluent in Chinese or Arabic, you may have trouble doing it solely through homeschooling. Maybe you can band with a few other parents to start an outside study group for this?
People from other countries are multi-lingual by high school. This is part of a “worldly” education.
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@jefe
Even so you gave me some good direction, so thank you either way. 😉
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@linda
“I just think that when it comes to correcting internal problems, black America need to take control of the Narrative”—I agree with that.
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@Sharina:
I can recommend Hindi as a very enjoyable language to learn. It has an interesting script, some sounds that are not found in UK or US English and some interesting (but not overly difficult) grammatical features.
I was taught some years ago by some workmates. I can speak, read and write but since I moved out of town and see fewer Indian people I’ve got terribly rusty. My nickname is Hindi for fool.
If a white Englishman can learn it, anyone can.
All my grandkids are around that age. My oldest grandson already shows an interest in languages. Your daughter will surely thank you for encouraging her in that kind of education.
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@ Sharina: Your child is blessed that she has a mommy who wants to give her the gift of knowledge and learning.
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@Buddhuu
Thank you. I was considering it for myself. LOL.
@ mary burrell
🙂 Thanks Mary.
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Good Internet Sites for Saturday School
Content Items
1.) Starfall
Our default system. It may get a little stale. This has extensive reading and phonics interactive sites.
starfall.com
2.) Tammy Payton Online Resource Guide
A first-grade teacher,Tammy Payton, has created an extensive list of Internet links to many very useful sites for children ranging from kids’ search engines to technology productivity tools.
• http://www.tammypayton.net/library/literature.shtml
3.) internet4classrooms.com
An excellent resource for numerous online interactive teaching sites.
4.) Mickey Mouse Playhouse
A site that has some wonderful animation with English voice and sometimes text, interactive stories and activities: Games, Activities, Music, Stories and more. Some education value, but strong on motivation and fun too.
http://atv.disney.go.com/playhouse/mmch/games/
mousekespotter.html
5.) http://www.literacycenter.net
A good site for Kindergarten and Lower Levels. It has sound, and offers the following choices: Uppercase Letters, Lowercase Letters, Shapes, Writing, Words, Numbers, Colours and Keyboard.
6.) http://www.progressivephonics.com/
A phonics resource with some free books – but no sound and not an interactive website.
7.) http://www.eduplace.com/kids/
Look at the bottom of the page under “Kid’s Place”. Wacky Web Tales teaches parts of speech. The students put specific words (and can get help if needed on the site) then it creates a wacky tale that they can read. The “Current Events” icon brings you to useful children’s website links. “Using the Web” guides students with useful tips about how to best use the Internet to get data. The “Games” icon brings you to many great games!
8.) http://www.rhymezone.com
This site is great for rhyming words, which is an area of weakness for many of our ESL kids. The teacher had it available on the classroom computer during a poetry activity and the students were using it when needed.
9.) Time Magazine for Kids
This is a great site with educational games, graphic organizers and more. There are three main headings: Grades K – 1; Grades 2 – 3; and Grades 4 – 6.
10.) BBC’s Famous People
The BBC’s Famous People site definitely deserves a mention. Designed exclusively for KS1 children, the site has information and games on everyone from Isambard Kingdom Brunel to Mary Seacole.
• http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/famouspeople
11.) Poetry Archive
Feel like hearing a poem with your class? Then log onto the Poetry Archive and listen to your heart’s content. Don’t forget to check out their Children’s Poetry Archive, too.
• http://www.poetryarchive.org/poetryarchive/home.do
12.) Tate Museum
We can’t always make it to art exhibitions – especially with 12 children in tow. So let the gallery come to you with the Tate’s staggering online collection of 65,000 works of art.
• http://www.tate.org.uk
13.) Simple English Wikipedia
Although some of its content isn’t always 100 per cent accurate, Simple English Wikipedia: The Free Encyclopaedia is a true godsend for answering all those questions children just have to ask!
• http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
14.) YouTube
YouTube, the self-broadcasting site has a clip of almost everything you could ever want. From famous speeches to science demonstrations, you’re guaranteed that someone out there has posted what you’re after.
• http://www.youtube.com
15.) Film Education
Film Education is constantly uploading free interactive and downloadable resources to respond to the growing importance of film in the British National Curriculum. Check out their latest ones for primary schools
• http://www.filmeducation.org/resources.html
16.) Puzzlemaker
Save the energy you spend on designing word searches by getting Puzzlemaker to do the hard work for you. Just type in what words you want, how big you would like the grid – and voila!
• http://puzzlemaker.school.discovery.com
17.) Roald Dahl Museum
Delve into the hidden world of the late, great Roald Dahl. Read early drafts of his work and take a 360° tour of his famous writing hut.
• http://www.roalddahlmuseum.org/discoverdahl/index.aspx
18.) Show Me
It’s hard not to be slightly overwhelmed at the amount on offer, when you first visit Show Me. But don’t be put off, as it’s bursting with free games and activities from UK museums and galleries.
• http://www.show.me.uk
19.) NASA
NASA has some fantastic images on its website, which teachers are allowed to download for educational purposes. Displaying the ‘mystery blobs’ with a PC projector will really get the children’s attention!
• http://www.nasa.gov
20.) Natural History Museum’s Dino Directory
It’s universally acknowledged that young boys are fascinated by dinosaurs. Luckily, the Natural History Museum’s Dino Directory has more than enough to satisfy budding paleontologists.
• http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/nature-online/dino-directory
21.) The British Library’s Listen to Nature
The British Library has a comprehensive collection of animal sounds in its archive, which you can explore by animal group, location or habitat. A great way for children to listen to exotic animals.
• http://www.bl.uk/listentonature
22.) The Booktrust
The Booktrust is a charity aimed at encouraging people to discover the joys of reading. They have a special sub-site dedicated to children’s books which is well worth a regular visit.
• http://www.booktrusted.com
23.) Internet Picture Dictionary
The Internet Picture Dictionary is great for showing children pictures of nouns. And don’t limit yourself to the English language – French, German, Spanish and Italian are also on there.
• http://www.pdictionary.com
24.) Google Earth
Google Earth is quite frankly, just plain brilliant. Download it to your desktop and have fun zooming in on anywhere in the world – from the Pyramids of Giza to your own school!
• http://earth.google.com
25.) The Victoria and Albert’s Museum of Childhood
The Victoria and Albert’s Museum of Childhood has a great selection of videos of moving toys. Bring it up with a PC projector, click on a video, and away you go!
• http://www.vam.ac.uk/vastatic/microsites/1482_moving_toys/toys_bband.htm
26.) The British Museum
The British Museum has a number of photographic tours on its website – from Buried Treasure to Stories from Bengal. But the real showstopper is the Animal Mummies section!
• http://www.thebritishmuseum.ac.uk/explore/families_and_children/online_tours.aspx
27.) Ordnance Survey
Suitable for older KS1 children, Ordnance Survey has developed a website to help you teach map-reading skills in a fun way. Click on the ‘Info’ and ‘Tools’ tabs to get started.
• http://mapzone.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/mapzone/index.html
28.) Families of the Orchestra
If your musical instrument cupboard is a little bare, then don’t worry. Allow children to hear the sounds of the instruments in a symphony orchestra by visiting the Families of the Orchestra site.
• http://www.dsokids.com/2001/instrumentchart.htm
29.) Story Nory
Introduce younger children to Bertie the Frog and his archive of 122 free audio stories, which can be downloaded or listened to on the site. Perfect for ending the school day.
• http://storynory.com/archives
30.) Fire Kills
Let Frances the Firefly take children on a tour of the Fire Kills website. Using interactive stories and games, children will discover the dangers of getting their wings burned.
• http://www.firekills.gov.uk/juniors/index.htm
31.) Chris’ Virtual Clock Collection
If you’re trying to teach your class how to tell the time, then pay a visit to Chris’ Virtual Clock Collection. There’s a fantastic collection of time devices, activity sheets and lesson plans.
• http://www.csmith.info/clocks/teachingtime/index.htm
32.) Simply Scripts
Does your class love watching films? Then let them read the scripts, too, by paying a visit to Simply Scripts. The website has downloadable screenplays, from classic movies to current flicks.
• http://www.simplyscripts.com/movie.html
33.) PowerPoint
PowerPoint is a nifty piece of software to use in the classroom, but don’t worry if you can’t use it. Just simply log on to Microsoft’s PowerPoint tutorial and learn!
• http://www.bcschools.net/staff/PowerPointHelp.htm
34.) Welltown
Welltown is a smashing little site for children to learn about a range of health and safety topics. With links to PSHE and citizenship, children can explore the town.
• http://www.welltown.gov.uk
35.) The Hamilton Trust
Ever wished you could have a couple of ready-made lessons? Then relax! The Hamilton Trust has 7,500 resources, so there’s sure to be something on there for you.
• http://www.hamilton-trust.org.uk/index.asp?id=1
36.) Free Resources for Education Excellence (FREE)
A rich website that offers more than 1,500 K-12 resources including all disciplines and drawn from the dozens of American federal agencies. FREE provides educators with access to professional research, videos, lesson plans, historical texts, and instructional information. Subscribe to the FREE RSS feed for new resources and news.
• http://free.ed.gov
37.) Think Quest
Think Quest is a project-based learning site where student teams engage in collaborative learning by creating educational websites. It offers links to more than 7,000 project ideas across all content areas. It also offers a competition (www.thinkquest.org/competition).
• http://www.thinkquest.org
38.) ASCD Edge
This is a place to share your lesson plans, network with other educators and brainstorm, a free social networking platform.
• http://ascdedge.ascd.org
39.) National Institute of Health (NIH) K-12 Lesson Plans
NIH offers modules, detailed lesson plans with objectives, activities and assignment suggestions; texts for students and bibliographies for teachers; videos; and other material that will help you breathe life into your science lessons.
• http://science-education.nih.gov
40.) Other Science Resources
Discovery Education – http://www.discoveryeducation.com/teachers
Free classroom resources and educational science games at PBS Kids – http://pbskids.org/games/science.html)
National Geographic has a well-designed website for kids
• http://kids.nationalgeographic.com/kids
41.) Mathematics – Khan Academy
This is a very rich, free mathematics web resource supported by Bill Gates who sees it as “the future of education”. It also has Science and is building some humanities programmes. It offers tutorials and systematic progressions for basic math skills.
• http://www.khanacademy.org/
42.) Mathematics – The Math Forum @ Drexel
A resource for math students in grades 3 – 12, this website offers lessons, problems and puzzles, video, instructional tools, and more across the math content area.
• http://mathforum.org
43.) Free Sheet Music
The Historical American Sheet Music Collection and the Library of Congress offer 3,042 pieces of sheet music.
• http://library.duke.edu/digitalcollections/hasm
44.) The Kennedy Center’s ArtsEdge
The Kennedy Center offers a wonderful resource for teaching and learning the arts. ArtsEdge provides more than 180 lesson plans across artistic disciplines. Students will love the multimedia resources, such as concerts from internationally acclaimed orchestras; videos tracing the historical roots of different types of musical genres, ranging from Cajun music to Palestinian ass to mariachi; and all the stimulating interactive activities.
• http://artsedge.kennedy-center.org
45.) PBS Learning Media
The Public Broadcasting System and Boston-based PBS station WGBH are releasing a new digital media platform for pre-kindergarten through college, called PBS LearningMedia. The site will provide digital content tied to curriculum standards and will be available in both a free and premium format.PBS LearningMedia to launch with 12,000 digital content objects, including standards-aligned video clips.
• http://www.pbslearningmedia.org/
46.) The American Library Association Good Kid Websites
The ALA Great Web Sites for Kids: A site compiled by the American Library Association, the index is found at: http://www.ala.org/gwstemplate.cfm?section=greatwebsites&template=/cfapps/gws/default.cfm
47.) Paper with decorated edges
This site provides many decorative borders that can help inspire the kids to write.
http://www.teacherprintables.net/free-printable-borders.html
48.) Scientific American Education
This site provides “Science for Everyone” with “Bring Home Science” to inspire kids and parents with experiments using household items (ages 6 – 12). Citizen Science where you can assist in Science research, collaborating with others around the world, and “1,000 Scientist in 1,000 Days” which connects educators for virtual fieldtrips and classroom discussion.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/education/
49.) Computer Science Unplugged
Free activities for classroom or home (Grade 5 and up)
CS Unplugged is a collection of free learning activities that teach Computer Science through engaging games and puzzles that use cards, string, crayons and lots of running around.
The activities introduce students to underlying concepts such as binary numbers,algorithms and data compression, separated from the distractions and technical details we usually see with computers.
http://csunplugged.org/
Young or Beginning Reader Sites
1)KIDiddles
A single mother designed this website when she came up empty handed after searching the Internet for song lyrics to sing to her newly adopted daughter. Song lyrics may be accessed through a subject index or a searchable database. Click on the musical notes displayed by a song title and hear a music box play the tune while you read the lyrics.
• http://www.kididdles.com/
2)MotherGoose.com
This site includes free preschool age-appropriate games, crafts, clip art, recipes, comics, gardening ideas, and rhyming activities. One link takes readers to written versions of over 360 Mother Goose rhymes. Another link takes readers to Tom Thumb’s Game Arcade, and interactive games.
• http://www.mothergoose.com/
3) The Biography Maker
This site provides tools to guide children in writing a biography. Links lead to tools that help students follow four steps online: asking questions, learning more about the person, synthesizing information,and telling the person’s story. An additional link provides information on six traits of effective writing. WARNING: This site at first seems empty; you need to go to the bottom to find the links that students can use. Each page is fairly dense in language for ESL learners.
• http://www.fno.org/bio/biomaker.htm
Listening
4.) Randall’s ESL Cyber Listening Lab
The site has easy, medium and difficult online quizzes. Quizzes are ordered: general, basic, for academic purposes, 20 min vocabulary tests, life tips, and long conversations.
• http://www.esl-lab.com/
5.) BBC World Service Learning English
General/business English, Grammar/ vocabulary/pronunciation, and a whole lot more.
• http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learningenglish/
Educational Games
1.) funnygames.nl
This site offer “lemmings”, a fun game for a change of pace. Simply type in “lemmings” and press “Zoek!”
2.) http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/bitesizeprimary/
BBC – Bitesize Primary, a good educational interactive site with KS1 Literacy, Number and Punctuation games, and KS2 Math, Science and English games.
3.) http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/illusion/illusions.htm
NIEHS Kids Page – Illusions. A fun, visual site, for a break from the usual.
4.) langeneggers.ch
A Swiss website with hundreds of creative games. Just click on “Spielecke”.
5.) http://app.de.mingoville.com/Mingoville
This is a great education site for younger kids. It has audio paired with text and offers a range of activities. You have to sign up, but it is free, non-intrusive, quick and easy.
6.) funbrain.com
Check out the arcade section, when you want to try some fun games for kids as an occasional change of pace.
7.)primarygames.com
This site has excellent educational games in English over a wide range of topics.
8.)picassohead.com
Mr. Picasso Head is a versatile online art drawing site where you can make your own Picasso-esque head. You can email the finished picture and save it in their gallery.
Password Protected Sites
1.) Enchanted learning
If you need a craft, colouring activity, or map this is a good site.
2.) Brain Pop Junior
This site has many Kindergarten to Grade Three teaching videos, content and printable quizzes. The content includes the typical subjects of Elementary school: Science; Health; Reading and Writing; Social Studies; Math; and Art and Technology.
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Hello Sharina, I have posted most of the sites I use the password protected sites I had to delete the passwords because they are school property. Right now it is in moderation and I don’t know when it will be off because it was a long list. I have other sites but these are a few that might help off the bat.
I love BBC Kids.
@Jefe, I don’t think you should under estimate your own skills. I have learned plenty from people who weren’t teachers.
I do agree with Jefe, I would recommend either Spanish or Chinese because they are very big languages. Most of the world speaks more than one language we however have a slight problem as having the supposed lingua franca as our own.
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@ King of Trouble: That is an awesome (in the original sense of the word) list. I’m going to share it with my daughter. My grandson occupies a slot on the autistic spectrum; learning is pretty much all he ever wants to do. It is very lucky for us that “geek” is actually cool at the moment. He thinks he is the coolest kid because he’s the biggest geek. Actually, he could be right 😀 .
Thanks for posting that.
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Re. Chinese:
I have a little Cantonese (a few phrases) from a work colleague/friend. She is Vietnamese, but she and her family prefer to be considered Chinese. Their ancestral village was right on the border. This lady is fluent in Cantonese, has a little spoken Mandarin and cannot read or write more than a few characters. That, in combination with the fact that Mandarin is a tonal language mean that anyone considering Chinese as a language to learn should be aware that it will take *much* longer to become competent than is the case with Spanish.
I wish I had the time to learn Chinese properly – Mandarin or Cantonese, I wouldn’t care which. We have plenty of speakers of both in nearby towns.
Funny, I was unimpressed by other languages when I was in school. As an adult there are few things more fascinating.
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ok so mary would u rofl. I wouldn’t because guy would always have a craving for another man lmao
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@Mstoogood: No, I don’t think I could do that. I feel like once gay always gay. That’s not saying anything bad about gays, but no, I couldn’t do that. When I first started watching Sweetie Pie’s Charles struck me as very feminine.
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@mstoogood4yall: Are you going to see Fruitvale Station or The Butler?
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^ he sure did especially the first couple of episodes. ANd when he was having attitude because he wanted to smoke, I was like yep. I can’t belive he’s I think 24 or 25 he looks like he a teenager. and I wonder why tim and janay broke up.
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@mstoogood4yall: Tim,was very immature to me. Janay probably had second thoughts about marrying him. I wondered about that too.
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oh no I won’t see the butler, I can’t stand maid or movies showing us as servants. Fruitvale station seems like a good movie, but I don’t usually go to the movie theater.
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@mstoogood4yall: Yeah, I can understand that.
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@ KOT
Wow, thanks for the exhaustive list! Love learning and the kiddos will enjoy the various link 😀
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^ Um u ok
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what’s wrong?
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Thank you Lifelearner, I really wanted to make a site that had more kid friendly history. Yet, I am miles away from this project until I find employment here in the States.
Even kids in the system should have some home schooled moments at home.
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@Buddhuu
Over 1/4 of mankind speaks tonal languages, so human beings, by their very DNA, are programmed to learn tonal languages just as easily as any other. If the child starts young, they should not find it any more difficult than any other language, even English.
So, I do not agree with you. 😛
I suggest that Sharina learn with her daughter. Now, it might take Sharina longer to learn to be proficient, but that is no reason for not having the goal.
Actually, I was going to recommend Chinese AND Arabic AND Spanish, but I was afraid I might be treated as crazy. But, actually, I think, why not? Besides, many words in Spanish are of Arabic origin.
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KOT, that is some awesome list, must have taken you hours to put it all together. 😮
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@ Jefe
Funny you mention that because those were the languages on the learning agenda minus Arabic. My daughter requested Chinese.
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Agabond,
If you haven’t seen this website, take a look.
(http://blackpeopleloveus.com/index.html)
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Hi Jefe, that is the smallest list I had to take many things away. I remember a time when it was just us teachers poster boards and hopefully a little artist skills. I agree with the Spanish, Chinese, and Arabic but I rarely say Arabic for some reason. I have studied it myself a little.
I also recommend reading the Trachtenberg system for math which you can get free down on the net. It really help out a lot of kids to
work around math.
I do like the following books.
A Sentence a day by Samantha Prust kept many of my kids busy.
Caught’ya! by Jane Bell Kiester also comes highly recommended.
Games for Adults wishing to improve their vocabulary or writing.
Literati Challenge
Writeopoly (I am not sure if they still sell this one)
English games to sharpen skills are good for not just the kids.
Just sharpening the mind I recommend Tangram and Mensa cards for fun.
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@ peanut
No u are not stupid and u certainly don’t come across as stupid to me. dang girl sounds like u going through a midlife crisis. what is ur book about?
“I need to do something with my life.” don’t we all.
“I’m upset at some Black men…not all, but some and I have mixed feelings now about my dating prospects…”
i’m glad i’m not dating yet. Peanut what is wrong? dang I know u mad or something when u post back to back.
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@ anne
I saw that website last year I was trying to find it again, too funny bahaha.
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yes I saw ur rant. lol. its ok scream and shout and let it all out [in my will I am voice]
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@ jefe:
“Over 1/4 of mankind speaks tonal languages, so human beings, by their very DNA, are programmed to learn tonal languages just as easily as any other. If the child starts young, they should not find it any more difficult than any other language, even English.
So, I do not agree with you. 😛
I suggest that Sharina learn with her daughter. Now, it might take Sharina longer to learn to be proficient, but that is no reason for not having the goal.
Actually, I was going to recommend Chinese AND Arabic AND Spanish, but I was afraid I might be treated as crazy. But, actually, I think, why not? Besides, many words in Spanish are of Arabic origin.”
LOL. Ok, but I don’t think we disagree too much.
I certainly didn’t mean to imply that Chinese (particularly Mandarin) are a bad choice, just that there are aspects that may be more challenging for native English speakers to master.
The same group of guys who taught me Hindi also taught me some Punjabi and Bengali. They tried to teach me some Arabic and Urdu as well. Spoken Urdu was fine – the grammar and much vocabulary is shared with Hindi – but the script defeated me. As for Arabic, after a few weeks I knew I wasn’t going to get it. Perhaps if I’d been trying to learn just the one I may have had a chance, but once the guys realised there was this geek “gora” with an interest in languages they each wanted me to learn their particular language of preference. There was some rivalry involved, but all pretty light hearted.
I found the Arabic and Urdu writing particularly intimidating, which was odd as Devenagri and Gurmukhi scripts didn’t freak me out at all. I guess the Arabic -type scripts work pretty differently.
I explored the possibilities of evening classes in Mandarin a couple of years back. The teacher with whom I spoke told me herself that in her opinion Mandarin was quite a challenge for English people to get beyond phrase-book level and really start to “get” it. She said that it would probably take 4 or 5 years before I could read stories in a Chinese newspaper.
What was too much of a commitment for me at the time may be a great project for Sharina and daughter.
I guess the important thing is to learn, and hopefully to learn something you enjoy.
This has got me annoyed at how I’ve let my own stuff lapse. Too late for me to learn a new tongue, I reckon, but I should at least polish up the ones I have a basic handle on.
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To Peanut, writing a book is hard for some but the internet is both the greatest help and bane to writers. I suggest finding a writing circle and like anything be choosy about which one. You should also spend some time unplugged. I write 12 books that never see the light of day each year. My wife jokes we will all be dead and buried before I try to get them publish or even finish them. However, I am finish with quite a few I just don’t want anyone to read them.
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Peanut, there is nothing wrong with you, you just answered your question…adiction to the internet…I can firmly tell you, my addiction to looking and participating on forums is hurting my business…not my playing and practice, which I am very disciplined, but , the act of hustling for gigs is severly hampered by getting side tracked surfing the comments and responding on blogs I participate on…
Its partly the frustration of facing the daunting task of hustling, with you , it must be the daunting task of facing the act trying to write something , after doing it for a while….
Dont hate your work, learn how to be critical of it but acknowledge the good parts…build off those good parts…you cant be a good writer if you dont start perceiving how to jetison the bad parts and bolster the good parts…if you dont like parts of your writing…you are growing
My father was a writer, not prolific, but had a couple of books published and was freinds with Nelson Algren, I remember him at our house,but I remember him getting up early and go to write…you have write everyday
And get out and observe real life (not meaning you personaly, I dont know what your daily habits are…but irrigate the brain cells with blood flow, from exercise and real life observations…not that the internet doesnt have inspiration, I have charged out of some of the frustrating diologues on here and took the anger directly to my practice room…but , its not real life…plus, I used to use anger to inspire me, but I realised, cultivating anger is bad for the health
good luck…keep writing…
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http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_s_palm_beach_county/boca_raton/james-martin-graduates-from-florida-atlantic-university-at-age-of-17
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If you have the time, you should spend 8 minutes looking at this.
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*Reverend Leon Lonnie Love — “Everythang Gonna Be Alright”*
A clip from my favorite episode of the early 90s TV show, “Martin”
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQNyg0keNpQ)
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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2013/08/09/politan-not-guilty-verdict-josh-young-murder-trial.hln
Another under age 17 year old white teen, enjoys white privilege. An all white jury finds him not guilty.
I’m sure I don’t have to mention, what would have happend if he was a 17 year old black teen, what the outcome of an all white jury would have been.
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Dang peanut,on the other thread u talk about ovulation now u talkin bout sex positions. rofl. no I have not had sex standing up, laying down, sitting down, or floating lmbao. tantric sex sounds interesting though, no penetration required lol.
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has anyone ever had sex standing up?
no but I peed standing up once. lmbao
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I wish those days where women wore long skirts (even in hot weather) were still here…
I wish cars still had the option of playing a cassette tape…
I wish you could walk up the avenue in the summer and see the Good Humor ice cream truck…
I wish there were still bars in the neighborhood where “everyone knows your name”..
I wish it was still safe to walk to most places in your city…
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^ well I guess i’ll stroll down memory lane with u lol
I remember the days where I had to grab a vhs tape to record my shows
I remember the days I had a Walkman lol
I remember the days cars were made out of steel
I remember the days being grounded from going outside felt like the worst thing ever
I remember the days where a kid could be a kid and wanted to go to chuck e cheese
I remember black men nodding to each other when they walked by
I remember when at&t was called singular
I remember when music was amazing and there were black women of all shades in the vids.
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@ Phobeprunelle& mstoogood4yall: Those are good memories. LOL @ when at&t used to be cingular.
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“has anyone ever had sex standing up?”–I plead the 5th
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“I wish you could walk up the avenue in the summer and see the Good Humor ice cream truck…”—Yes! I saw one a couple of years back and chased it down to see where it was going. lol
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@Mary,
I WISH my little brother’s friends still thought me “fine”–they would say this all the time back in the day…
I wish you could still hear the noon day whistle no matter where you were in the city…
And a slew of other things that i miss. Oh yeah, and lollipop briefs for girls and ladies.
: P
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I remember when jared was on the subway commercials
I remember when burger king would give u a crown
I remember when mcdonalds wasn’t every dam where
I remember when bow wow was dating Ciara
I remember usher and chili
I remember the song on the rugrats movie by blackstreet and I forget her name
I remember the show all that
I remember kenan and kel, I loved orange soda
I remember the theme songs for shows was awesome
i remember when songs were kinda nasty but u didn’t know it because they used a different word and weren’t vulgar
i remember when p diddy was puff daddy
i remember when p diddy was diddy
i remember when p diddy was sean combs
i remember when paddy or what ever his name is messed up 112 and boyz 2 men
i remember when aaliyah died
i remember tlc before destineys child
i don’t remember all the destineys child original members and don’t miss them
i remember thinking the condoms tlc wore on there clothes were candy smh.
i remember when ppl were scared to check their mail after some mail was poisoned
i remember the macarana or whatever its called
i remember the magic school bus
i remember the teletubbies
i remember when pokemon was popular
i remember when yu gi oh was popular
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@mstoogood4yall: You are such a 90’s baby. LOL!!! I liked that you thought the condoms on left eyes clothes were candy. That’s cute.
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i remember pop rocks
i remember baby bottle pops
i remember push pops
i remember laffy taffy and that dumg song laffy taffy by three six mafia smh
i remember the song pony by ginuwine
i remember the song peaches and cream by 112 and not knowing what it was about
i remember the movie bring it on
i remember fear factor
i remember playing super Mario on nitendo
i remember mrs pac man
i remember sonic the game
i remember sega dreamcast ( i still have one, i’m waiting for it to be worth some $$$)
i remember watching unsolved mysteries and the host and theme song creeped me out
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I remember when Michael Jackson had his family had their original beautiful black faces. I remember when black people were proud to be black people. Black men truly loved his family and his black woman. The music was good,artist sang with their natural vocal cords and had real talent.
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I remember when a plus size black woman was a considered sexy. Black men loved a thick sister back then, They loved generous backsides and nice shapley legs. Women of all shades and hues were beautiful.
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@ ms mary
u darn right i am rofl. what are u an 80’s baby? 70’s? 60″s ok let me stop lol.
i remember when Americas most wanted came on Saturdays on fox
i remember when the simpsons were popular
i remember the footed pajamas
i remember my mom poppin me with the back of the comb cuz i wasn’t sitting still while she did my hair
i remember hot wheels smh.
i remember runs house
i remember watching the Amanda show, before Amanda bynes turned into what she is today
i remember loving the song by monica and brandy he’s mine.
i remember thinking a serial killer was a cereal killer and was someone who broke into ur house and ate ur cereal smdh.
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I tell you what. You are bringing back some of my favorite childhood memories.
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i remember the dam hot comb u had to heat up on the stove.
i remember ducking from the heat of the hot comb and my mom telling me to sit still
i remember my mom braiding my hair too tight and getting bumps
i remember when i thought guys had cooties
i remember outkast
i remember etch a sketch
i remember light bright
i remember toy story
i remember boy meets world
i remember my first easy bake oven
i remember light up shoes
i remember lion king
i remember when mtv had one network
i remember when bop it
i remember the flintstones and taking flintstones vitamins and being hyper
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@ mstoogood4yall: To you remember Cita’s World on BET? That was shameful. Very awful stereotype of black women.
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Yeah, that hot comb was brutal.
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ms mary i don’t remember that show. i do remember bebe’s kids though smh.
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What about when Black women wore day gloves to match their dresses!
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Dear Abagond,
I could not register, but I would like to inform you about my Suriname Blue Blood Is Black Blood Museum, based on my Blue Blood Is Black Blood Theory (1100-1848). I think we are going about fighting Racism against Blacks in a wrong way, because we do not know all the facts. Basically some whites hate Blacks because Blacks once ruled whites in Europe. All the European civilizations (Greek, Roman, Modern) were founded by the first Europeans. Who came from Africa and remained brown and black complexioned, and self-identified as Black with little heraldic Moors. The whites were immigrants from central Asia. We do not know this because after 1848 when these whites who were serfs were finally emancipated, they had all old master paintings altered with beige and pink paint: claiming the paint had darkened. There are however personal descriptions which say that many an noble person now whitened, was brown or black of complexion. And engravings taken early from those paintings still show the dark complexions. So we can understand that the portraitist intended to paint a brown or black person. They were the elite, 2-3% of the Europeans and oppressed but civilized the 97% white majority. Racism and human races were invented as a liberation ideology to wean whites away from their Black oppressors and to teach them not to give Blacks positions of authority and power. African slavery was invented when the brown and black complexioned elite ruled Europe, and they saw Africans as heathens. White slaves in the Americas were their serfs from Europe. My International Campaign is to make the world aware of the fake, over paints and the falsifying of history. Se we can end racism today without fighting or bloodshed, or even a raised voice. Just point to the fake over paints. You can still see the brown layer underneath, and they done told us the paintings looked dark. So…
Egmond Codfried.
bluebloodisblackblood.blogspot.com
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Shari NA!! I plead guilty as charged….but not that often…I masturbate standing sometimes….
good question, Peanut
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check this crazy story out. a woman named her biracial child messiah, but the judge said she must change the childs name. I bet the judge just don’t like the thought of a black messiah, they say it is a fast growing name. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/tenn-judge-childs-messiah-19931569
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@Buddhuu
So we agree to disagree.
Do not project your experience on other people. And I would take the statement from that teacher with a (very tiny) grain of salt.
I used to know a black American from New York who learned to speak both Mandarin and Cantonese quite well after just 6 months (starting from scratch) and could already read and write survival Chinese. Another 6 months I am sure he could read the newspaper fine. If one is determined, one can do what they want.
I have met native English speaking white Americans who have a better handle of Chinese than many Native speakers. I think what that teacher told you is totally hogwash.
I am a native English speaker but I became a teaching assistant for the Chinese language department at my university when I was just 17. I had only started learning Mandarin 2 years earlier in High School. Some of the students were born in HK or Taiwan. I would NEVER give the advice to you that the teacher you cited did.
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@sharina
Oh, please do it. America needs more people like your daughter.
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Hello Abagond. I was wondering if you could write about “Integration without blacks”?
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/08/07/sign-of-things-to-come-integration-without-blacks-in-new-york-city-neighborhoods/
There are a lot of reasons why I suggest this topic. One is that I am not an American*, and I am fascinated with the U.S. This is especially the case when I read counterpoints to the Hollywood narrative (such as yours) which shows how it is not like as it appears to be on TV or popular culture.
Another is that there seems to be a fundamental flaw in the assumption that all ‘minorities’ (which I am using to mean non-Whites) have similar interests. I accept the fact that (as far as I know) minorities who were brought up in the US have a similar mindset, but what I wonder about is what will happen with regards to those who immigrate there. I believe the term is Fresh-off-the-boat.
In Asia, there is a preference for lighter skinned individuals and I wonder if this would result in prejudice by Asians against Black Americans. I also noticed that during my trips to other countries that there was a population of Africans (from Africa) living in the same neighbourhood as I was.
It was obvious from the start that they were prejudiced against. This included not being served in restaurants, to being denied entry to karaoke bars and night clubs, to being ignored in kedahs (like a regular place where you have lunch. Not a stall.) until they leave.
Yes there was some criminal elements who came with their group, but it wasn’t that much compared to the average.
*Note: Please don’t tell the commenters about my country of origin, as I like the anonymity that the internet provides.
Note2: I am probably going to change my name, but haven’t got around to it.
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Regarless of where you are from does not make your comments less valued, but I respect your choice in having it remain hidden.
As for choosing a name….I think the one you go by now is just fine.
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🙂 ^_^
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@ Average Bee
{bulanik blushes in confusion}
Thank you, you are kind to say this.
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I have just read what Fiamma actually said about me after I had to leave the blog, for business and family reasons, and never actually read it until now. Just now.
Fiamma describes me as many things,the ugliest parts I must have missed and are now deleted:
That the information I supposedly plagiarized was:
That, in accusing me, I was
!
Fiamma believed that my responses would be as I knew they’d be
Huh?
I SAID NOTHING. I was away from the blog for business and family reasons for several weeks. When I did drop by I went to other threads. When I came here last week, “I only skimmed and stopped at some some comments.”
This time I more than skimmed. Jesus Christ.
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@ Abagond:
Correction: please put “extremely catty given the circumstances” in blockquotes.
Thank you.
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@ Linda
Yes, this is so.
There has been so much speculation here.
But, for all that NOT revealing my sources, not name dropping, not saying how involved I was in the creative processes, what I see from my own mind, pen, or keyboard on the pages of websites, what I know of the competition, the politics, the factions, the destruction, watching others grasp for fame and recognition, etc., what has been the price for my discretion and restraint?
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Linda, I did not know what was said on here over the time I did not comment, and now deleted. I do not understand what went on here. I don’t.
If you took up sword and buckler on my part during that scene, I thank you for it. But, I DID NOT see any of it, read any of it, know the details of it.
What amazes and baffles me is that I was ABSENT and SILENT yet… I seem to read that it’s about “you 2”.
?
Where was I when that “you 2” was going on?
Answer: working on my businesses and nursing a sick relative.
I wasn’t having arguments with anyone!
In the meanwhile, in my silence and absence, I now realize that what I actually said was completely ignored. I don’t understand what happened.
Also, I have never understood why Abagond avoids talking to me.
If only he had asked me.
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@Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit
Indeed, NYC is getting more integrated with whites, but less so with blacks. As someone who lived in Queens, NY before, I remember what happened in Astoria. The European ethnic landlords considered renting to Asians and Hispanics, but not blacks. And real estate agents even today engage in blatant and rampant racial steering. As long as blacks cannot buy flats in non-black neighborhoods, they cannot rent to other blacks. But I suspect that many landlords in black neighborhoods are not black either and do not live there.
NYC is probably the most diverse city in the world, but still engages in so much discrimination. That is why we must cheer the ruling about NYPD’s stop and frisk policy.
BTW, I can tell which country you are from 😛 😛 😛 (just from your posting – if I analyse your posts, maybe I can even tell what city. :P)
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@Ineedtoselectanameandstickwithit
Part 2:
Yes, there is that skin colour concept from Asia, but I think what is going on in the USA including NYC is more a white thing — who white people are willing to live with (and thus continue with municipal services like police protection and rubbish collection). Persons lulled into the model minority stereotype might assume that attitude also, but they learned that from whites.
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@ Abagond
Why is my comment still in moderation?
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@ Legion
Perhaps you could.
You might notice that I didn’t actually say anything during the poke-fest.
You might notice anything I said in explanation or in my own defence was deleted (not at my request) and ask yourself WHY.
It might also do no harm to ask what line I supposedly crossed, and think about that, perhaps, if it pleases you.
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I wonder if you remember the discussion that took place on the Warsaw Ghetto and Poland with the commenter, eco?
For those who don’t know about this, eco is a Polish commenter, based in Poland. He didn’t agree with my perspective, because he was so very, very smart, knew the internet better than article such as myself, looked down on me from all accounts and was thus convinced that:
-I had sourced my historical knowledge from Google.
-I was only pretending to know any Polish people. And that:
-My travels in Poland were also fictitious.
Further, he could prove it, and finally “out” me because I had *crossed the line* and questioned his core belief. There was much to gain from using that.
Get the picture?
Eco did not ask what or how come I had this information. It never entered this thoughts. it was simply impossible and inconceivable that I was speaking from my mind,
my memories,
my studies during the 1980s, and,
my life experience. That couldn’t be 😀
If eco had asked me, he might have learned that I was not US-based, had lived closely with Polish Jews since the 1960s, gone to school with Catholic Poles, studied extensively, and — since 2004 when Ireland opened her doors to many 1000s of Polish workers — had employed several from that time, forming bonds in that country which cannot now be broken. Personally, I felt no need to disclose those details at the time of the discussion to “show” something.
But eco didn’t ask how I came upon my knowledge. He could have, but what stopped him — what stops anyone from asking and questioning themselves and their own arrogance?
Instead he preferred to presume, and presume the worse.
Do you follow my meaning?
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@ Bulanik
It was in moderation because I was still moderating it. I was still thinking whether I should allow it: on the one hand you have the right to defend yourself, on the hand it would likely start a comment feud between you and Fiamma.
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Has anyone been following this [Feminism/Race] Hugo Schwyzer confirmed a fraud at last.
http://bitchmagazine.org/post/we-need-to-talk-about-feminism-race-and-hugo-schwyzer
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@ abagond
I’m afraid you have to at least try to be fair, at this late stage.
When I defended myself at the start you said this was “attack”.
You deleted my earlier defences (which I did not request to be deleted), whilst allowing Fiamma her right to comment in the non-attack manner shown.
I had been silenced by that stage.
What is more, you drew your conclusions very confidently against me during this interlude. Even going so far as to putting words into my mouth.
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FYI xPraetorius is the individual that takes posts and debates them on his thread (although he told brothawolf he was an older black lady).
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thanks for letting us know sharina, wtf, so he posed as a black woman, what kinda sick tyler perry sh@t is that.
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@ sharina
thanks for letting us know. wtf he posed as a black woman, what kind of sick tyler perry,sh@t is that. I see everybody loves posing as black women, then have the nerve to call us masculine, smh, yeah ok look who represent us some dam men, posing as women. I guess it went from everybody wanna be a ni@@ but nobody wanna be a n@@ to everybody wanna be a black woman but nobody wants to be a black woman. dang makes me wonder who else is an imposter *looks left* *looks right*.
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@ mstoogood4yall
That was what he claimed on brothawolf’s post and now he is claiming to be a white dude. I don’t know which is true. Brothawolf also ended up having to block that individual because things tend to get heated. When I commented on their blog about the stuff he/she was doing they appeared to be respectful of me, but I want people to be aware that in many cases they just want to argue and that their comments (not just abagonds post) end up on their blog.
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Sharina,mstoogood4yall,Bulanik
I’ve suggested many times, to ignore these racist white folks that come on this blog, just to argue, fight and fuss with black people.
I am also very aware of these white sock puppets that pose as black men and women. 9 times out of ten, i peg em correctly.
I may have missed one, recently but i’m normally very good at spotting them. ^_^
Sure, we as black people do feud every now and again but that doesn’t mean we don’t want the same things for ourselves as a race. Every race of people has feuds, we are no different.
I’m ready to kiss and make up… @ : o O ) >
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I think the latter is true, as what black woman would say she is a white guy. There have been a few on here that I suspect were white posing as black. Even truthbetold had to deal with an imposter and had them banned then they left her a nasty message and she posted it so we could see.
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“I’m ready to kiss and make up”
sondis sondis smh. oh so now u ready to make up well maybe I’m not now, oh so everything is supposed to be on ur time lol, jk, come here *hi five* oh what u thought I was gonna give u a kiss oh no boo, u can go kiss and make up with those other two u can give the kiss for me to peanut lol. 🙂
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@ Sondis
I was not mad at you, so what are we kissing and making up for? 🙂
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mstoogood4yall:
I dunno, i may get slapped in the face if i try to make a kissy face at those two.
@ : o O ) >
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@ mstoogood4yall
I look at it like this. If you are not ashamed of being white then why pose as a POC on a blog site? Why is the need of the pretend poc to endorse the bs? As if pretending to be a person of color is going to make them more credible.
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Sharina:
ok, i’ll fess up…there was nothing to kiss and make up over. I just was using that as excuse to kiss all of the, beautiful black women.
I wonder if abagond, allows for a brotha to get smooth on yall ass… @ : o l ) >
if so, I’d buss a move…. ~_~
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Sharina
I think it has to do with them assuming black ppl will listen and follow another black person. its why they always bring up mlk and his peaceful tactics thinking we all will get a warm fuzzy feeling inside and listen to them. I’ve never posed as a white or other race, the only ones that do that are trolls.
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Sondis
rofl, u ain’t getting smooth on nobody ass whatever that means lol
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Sharina:
Its text book white folks, they do the same thing with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
whatever both of these black men say, white people see it as what all black people must believe and think. This is why they pose as a black person, thinking that we must agree with another black person.
This tactic is so old and played out but white people are so out of touch with black people, they still think we call each other, “home boys” and even think we still, break dance and pop lock. WTF?
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@ Sondis
” as excuse to kiss all of the, beautiful black women. “—I don’t think my husband would agree to that in my case. LOL
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mstoogood4yall:
I can see it now…”hey baby, you fine as wine and silk as milk” *abagond…..DELETE* oh snap! @ : o O ) >
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sharina:
Fair enough….i respect a married woman. ^_^
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Bahaha lol. rejected.
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sondis milk really, smh, how u know i’m not lactose intolerant, but that milk better be chocolate baahawwah. come on sondis u can do better smh.
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mstoogood4yall:
I must admit, i am rusty in my old age. Give a brotha a break. @ : o l ) >
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rofl, sondis, ok sir sondis u may have a seat and relax with ur old rusty self. u want a break, hmm no u need a vacation.
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excuse me as i sit back and enjoy a good movie. “The shawshank redemption” with Morgan freeman and Tim Robbins. ^_^
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http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/08/14/exp-newday-martin-messiah.cnn
Now white people are telling black people, what we can and cannot name our children for crying out loud!
This white female judge, names a black woman’s infant, after refusing to grant her “permission” to name her infant boy, “messiah”, despite this name, being the most popular name given to infants by mothers to their babies.
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^ sondis
I posted that a couple days ago, like I said I bet she wasn’t fond of a black child being called messiah. We know a lot of these religious whites would probably stop being Christians if they found out the messiah was not white. Perfect example the kkk are Christians.
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Absolutly , Fiamma ,we know exactly what happened..
And , just to add, I didnt even call Bulanik a “black girl”, I thought I was repeating back her statement that actualy was “B. R. has belittled me as a back woman”…which I admitted I sloppily did not see it correctly, yet was attacked by two people who made similar mistakes as they attacked me…but, the conniving manipulation that led up to that accuasation, whispering on the blog that someone was not to be trusted and was racist , was just creepy…with all of Bulaniks recall ability of past posts, Ive been waiting until hades freezes over to be shown where I ever “belittled Bulanik as a black woman”..
As well as trying to make it like I was only curious what her ethnic background was, and had some kind of fetish , when Im curious about all the posters on here and what it actualy would be like discussing these things eyeball to eyeball
any notion I would have some fetish for her is absurdity at its highest leval
I saw the deleted comment by Bulanik actualy trying to link us together because I was sympathetic to your 9/11 sentiments ,when we have barely interacted on here…whether we like it not we are linked together on here from now on…and it does reveal a part of the agenda underneath these manipulations , and conniving deceits and how she tried to attack you…which I think is worse than the plajarising….but you know, a lot of people will accept dirt tactics if they agree with that person’s agenda…so, I dont know how other people feel about what you are saying, but I see exactly what you are saying
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@ All
Re: Fiamma’s remarks.
Apparently, I am am a sociopath. LMAO!
This means that I am one of those 4% of the population, possessing a personality disorder, harming all and sundry with my charm and intelligence and false learning and experience, and other anti-social behaviours.
Obviously, I must make a doctor’s appointment, immediately, and subject myself to a medico-legal framework…
Fiamma is a psychiatrist, a remarkable psycho-analyst and is 100% sure about what me and my life and interior life, such as:
– the shame I do or do not, should or should not, feel….
– that I feel I am entitled to everything…
– that I lack human empathy…
– that I live on the edge…
– that I am incapable of love…
– that I have a long history of juvenile delinquency…
Oh yes. Fiamma knows this.
Because she is a clairvoyant. And perfectly rational.
I am also prone to thievery, probably the worst person she’s encountered, etc.
Maybe I am psychopath as well. Only Dr. Fiamma can tell.
Perhaps Abagond could forward my personal details to the the FBI so that they can apprehend me whilst I drink my Earl Grey tea, and my colleague who are and his daughter who are looking at me as type this, laugh their asses off.
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A few days ago Fiamma said:
I accept Fiamma’s apology, and I appreciate it. Thank you, Fiamma.
I was hoping to thank her much more for it, because in apologising, she had an opportunity to show the quality of her “sincerity”, as well as her moral fibre.
However, once again, she has taken it upon herself to presume upon — and insert herself — into the life of a perfect stranger!
Obviously I have no life-time of experience to draw from…Fiamma says so.
I must still be a teenager trying to sound “smart”.
Fiamma staged this ad hominem, but in acknowledging her own accountability, there was the opportunity to ask me some sharp questions, acknowledge some errors of her own, and bury her hatchet.
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@ For anyone interested in the ORIGIN of this episode created by Fiamma:
Regarding unprovoked “attack” that finally broke the camel’s back.
There was no attack, only “drama”.
The “attack” Fiamma is basing her remarks and actions on is this one from the thread called: “style guide: Briticisms”.
Fiamma did not agree with another English commenter and myself about what made a person “English”.
The commenter, called Bleh, concluded that what Fiamma was saying and the way she was saying it was divisive and insulting. Fiamma rejected our English-reasoning, saying: “I’m sorry if that hurts anyone’s feelings”.
However, the discussion had not been “personal”.
In fact, Jefe put forward the same argument as Fiamma, and after the point had been broken down in the same way to him as it had been to Fiamma, Jefe remarked:
Jefe simply did not know as much as he previously thought about this issue, and was honest and brave enough to say so. Fiamma reacted differently.
It was not an attack on him and it was not a attack on Fiamma.
Fiamma did not examine my reasoning or the other English commenter’s argument, concluding that it was all a witch hunt against her!
The yawn-making thread in question:
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Re: erased comments
I made 1000s of comments, with 100s of questions, 100s of links, and 100s of references.
Presumably these 1000s of comments were the outgrowth of being a quick study? Really? Oh. Perhaps it is ABSOLUTELY INTOLERABLE that I have anything in my head apart socio-pathy and thievery.
The fact is, I have more going on in my life other than to study a wide range of subjects at this time in my life so that I can “achieve” something on Abagond’s blog. The last time I studied anything was in 2001, I think.
It must be absolutely impossible that I had anything like…information or knowledge from several decades of living and learning, of course, of course. Impossible.
When reading my comments and instead of seeping in emotion, why didn’t Fiamma just ask me how I came upon my knowledge? Where did I get it from, etc.?
That is what rational, intelligent grown ups do. Children, too.
They ask questions.
My answers would have explained a great deal.
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Re: deletions
I have questioned Abagond about this.
I have said he made an over-confident and over-quick judgement, and effectively silenced me. If that is what I felt about me, then yes, delete my entries. I was angered by the way he handled it and felt disrespected.
That was how I felt.
Abagond could have waited and contacted me to ask me to confirm that I really wanted the deletions. Note “could”. That is nothing special because, that’s how he and I have spoken about too-personal deletions before on the blog or by email. This was no different.
He didn’t ask, he just went ahead and deleted it all in my absence.
I didn’t like it, it was illogical and a missed opportunity, but fair enough, I had said in the heat of the moment, and it’s his blog.
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Re: Things that are personal to me.
“Bulanikgirl” was the suggestion of…”Bulanikb0y”. Someone I’m close to.
The “girl” was was dropped because I am way past girlhood and it was not self-respecting. After all, it is not cool to call a man a *b0y* on this blog.
Bulanik is a Turkish name. As curious as one or 2 individuals might be at the full breakdown of my ethnicity, I have never broken it down here.
With good reason!
Nor have I supplied information of my work, or my relationships, and you can sure I won’t be linking a gynaecological report report here, either.
I am aware that Fiamma is racially ambiguous.
She says she can attract the desirous attention of any kind of man. Okaaay.
I wish her the best of luck in that endeavour.
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Recent chill out music, Guinean-Spanish singer Concha Buika.
I have heard her voice described as “goose-pimple-making”:
Here she is with another Spanish singer who sings the intro, Ms Buika comes i around 00.57
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li7GSExto0A)
More of her here:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icd1c3FpnC4)
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@ sondis
My prince, you have the right stuff!! Mwah.
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@ All
My responses above were to Fiamma’s calling me a sociopath, discussing my personal ethnicity, my name, my life, etc., etc.
This comment has now been deleted.
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I am going to respectfully say I really don’t care to know the nature of you guys argument. I respect all parties involved but I am just going to stay out of it (thus the reason I have said nothing regarding it).
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@sharina: to correct an in accurate post you put on this thread yesterday, xPraetorius WAS indeed a petite black woman arguing with Brotha Wolf on his blog. “xPraetorius” is our “generic” ID, if you will, at The Praetorian Writers’ Group think tank. Any one of our stable of writers can write using the ID, but if it’s for publication on our blog, it has to pass the scrutiny of the rest of our group. Sometimes, the writers of the Federalist Papers did things this way. We have a lot of very good reasons to maintain our anonymity, hence the ID gymnastics.
Sometimes, we’ll take on bloggers and debates we think merit our attention, and one of our group will tackle a topic, as I — a large white dude — have been doing on Abagond’s “Was Hitler evil” thread.
So, to repeat, Brotha Wolf was indeed debating a petite black woman…my dear friend and colleague.
I, on the other hand, am a largish white dude, and I have carried on a debate/discussion these past couple of days with Abagond over at his “Was Hitler evil” thread.
Best,
— xPraetorius
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@xPraetorius
Then I stand corrected.
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xPraetorius,
I didn’t care who I was arguing with on this post you’re referring to:
http://brothawolf.wordpress.com/2013/06/23/paula-deen-and-the-good-ole-days-of-overt-racism/
But if it is indeed true that you are a group of bloggers using the same name, you all sound exactly alike. It was like you all have one mind. And the same BS that was started by you in “Was Hitler Evil” was the exact same kind of BS you left in my post. Now, either you all have the same brain or you are one person pretending to be a group of folks.
I can’t take your word at face value especially seeing as how you behave in anti-racism blogs. For all I know, you could be just one white dude pulling the wool over our eyes. Again, I don’t know, and I really don’t care.
What I do know is that you talk straight out of your bum most of the time and I called you on it numerous times.
You think what you place online is the truth. Who’s to say that it is? Only you. And nothing that we can say will prove our cases because you’ve excepted only one view as the actual view so adamantly, that you resort to condemnation in your replies.
I will say that the way you think is wrong on so many levels. Only someone completely out of touch with reality would hold on to it so tightly without apologies and with pride. It’s not smart, and it’s not even right.
All I will say is that you are completely out of your mind. All of you.
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“All I will say is that you are completely out of your mind. All of you.”—LMFAO
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^ bahahwhwhahw.
if we wait long enough we might meet the third person with the same name. http://www.openhouseimports.com/shop/images/trolls/fossetrollthreeheadw.jpg
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Damn, it’s three people blogging. That’s crazy.
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Bulanik:
Thank you! ^_^
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Mary, girl stop!!!!!
Lol
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/14/justice/florida-teen-sex-case
another case of white privilege strikes again! a 18 year old white girl, gets away with having sex with a 14 year old, black child!
The mother is black and the father is white. Do i need to point out, if this white 18 year old girl was black? or a black male or even a WHITE male? talk about double standard!
A female can have sex with a 14 year old and get no record, don’t have to register as a sex offender and she still rejects the 1st plea and the judge was more than willing to offer her a NEW DEAL!
It must be grand to be white and a female in America!!!
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Follow up story on Eighteen-year-old Kaitlyn Hunt, charged with a crime for having sex with a 14-year-old girl, rejected a deal Friday that would have required her to plead guilty to child abuse, according to Hunt’s attorney.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/24/justice/florida-teen-sex-case
The last one i posted was about a white 18 year old boy, struggled with 5 cops and grabbed one of the cops guns and fired it off and lived to tell the tale!
This is the latest white privilege,saga! I think I’m going to create a ,”white Privilege” segment on abagond’s blog, once a week in the open thread.
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Sondis
that is crazy, she had sex with a 14 yr old biracial girl wow. If it was flipped then u know the black or biracial girl would’ve had the book thrown at her. smh her parents talking bout oh its because she a lesbian no dummy its because she a pedo. Reminds me of that white teacher being with her student and she got off as she was too pretty to go to jail smdh. More reason for black parents to homeschool their kids, these sexual predators target them as they feel like black kids are grown anyway, and have no sympathy.
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mstoogood4yall:
Yeah, they are trying to turn it into a gay hate thing, which its nowhere near that. she’s a pedophile, point blank!
she’s so confident her whiteness will get her off, so she goes to trial and she will lose, being she admitted to having sex with the minor, there’s not much the prosecution has to do!
I also remember that other white female teacher, she was a blond and she had sex with a 15 year old, Mexican boy. Got off Scott free.
There was another white women that had sex with a Mexican boy and had his child in prison. she got out and married him, when he was of age, LMFAO!
I tell ya, these nutty white folks, they crack me up! @ : o D ) >
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wtf. wow just freaking wow, so they trying to make it like the white female is a victim and make the victims mother out to be the villain. wow white supremacy at its best, what next they want an apology from the victims mother saying im sorry for being a concerned parent. This beyoth got a petition wow, then she wanna say its cuz she gay. if it was a guy and girl there may not be as much media attention but I’ve seen lots of stories where a male gets with a female and he’s 18 and she 16 or 15 and he gets stuck on the sex offender list. she thinks she’s above the law, and tha she don’t deserve to be on there think again cupcake. I can kinda sympathize with the ones who have a small age difference like 18 and 17 but why u wanna be with a dang 14 yr old and u 18. Sheit im 19 and I don’t really like ppl my age.
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predator as beyotches. like I said white supremacy allows whites off and they are the ones starting these relations. They’ve always been the initiator and dominate one in these “relationships” they are always the pursuer. But u let a black male that is 18 get with a 14 yr old white female and all he11 would break loose. Or even an 18 yr old white male with a 14 yr old white female gets on the sex offender list. And she has the nerve to say its because im lesbian, wow naw chich if u weren’t a lesbian and u were a man and pulled that sheit ur life would be over. BUt go ahead with ur white womans tears and get off, if she gets off I hope the victims parents sue the heck out of them for emotional damages and things. If anybody ever pulled this sheit on my future kids the mother bear/ lioness would come out.
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mstoogood4yall:
OMG, watch this YouTube clip, where the mother of the pedophile, says about the charges against hunt, having sex with a 14 year old girl is, “outrageous” LMFAOOO!
White people crack me up! when its them on the other side of the law, ITS OUTRAGEOUS ! hahahaha!
(http://youtu.be/TgWiYvXqJdg)
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mstoogood4yall:
OMG, watch this YouTube clip, where the mother of the pedophile, says about the charges against hunt, having sex with a 14 year old girl is, “outrageous” LMFAOOO!
(http://youtu.be/TgWiYvXqJdg)
White people crack me up! when its them on the other side of the law, ITS OUTRAGEOUS ! hahahaha!
Please delete the privious post abagond, i forgot to put the YouTube video in a link. Thanks…
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Funny how they villianize the black women yeah sure go and act like us black ppl are so dam homophobic. we don’t have a black westoboro church going to soldiers funerals talking about gays and holding signs with the f word. Interesting that u go after the black woman but are silent on her white husband, so even though he would be head of household yall wanna go after the black woman, for sticking up for her daughter. They don’t give a dam bout that girl they think black girls are loose anyways. oh no gotta protect the white female from serving in prison and messing up her life for a masculine jezebel biracial underage female. Oh no the white female is the victim its the black mothers fault for bringing this up why can’t they just be together, if it was a straight couple none of this would’ve happened omg, this is so wrong. Hmm so they attack us and say we always using the race card, yet they don’t call this bs out and say oh the gays using the gay card.
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mstoogood4yall:
I couldn’t believe my ears when the family said, they wanted the charge to be reduced to a MISDEMEANOR!!! are serious???
So i guess every man or woman that has sex with a 14 year old child, will get a misdemeanor and have it wiped off their record after probation! yeah, that would go over real good with the public!!! HAHAHHA
Here is the parents of the 14 year old victims in an interview. Notice the header, “defend actions” wtf? why do they even have to, “defend” themselves??? Are they the only people in the country who think their child was being molested and raped?
EXCLUSIVE: Parents of underage victim in Kate Hunt’s case defend actions
Story by Jana Eschbach / CBS12 News
Posted by Miranda Grossman / CBS12 News
SEBASTIAN, Fla. — A local teen’s family says she is being unfairly prosecuted for a same-sex relationship. But now a new twist in the case that has gripped the nation.
The parents of the underage victim speak out for the first time only to CBS12, and drop a bombshell that will likely turn this investigation on its head.
UPDATE: Kaitlyn Hunt refuses plea deal, will fight charges in court
“Stop the hate, free Kate,” is the Hunt Family’s message. The message directed right at Jim and Laurie Smith, the parents of the former girlfriend, who spoke exclusively to CBS12 to defend their actions, their daughter, and their rights as parents.
“We are not the type of people to go in front of the media,” said Laurie Smith.
First, let’s set the facts straight. Kate was not 17, their daughter not 15.
“Our daughter was 14, and this girl was 18,” said Jim Smith.
The Smiths are portrayed by the Hunt Family as going to the law first.
“It’s not the way it was. It was quite different. We had actually told Miss Hunt that this was wrong,” Laurie told CBS12’s Jana Eschbach.
But, according to the Smiths Kate was warned, not once, but twice to stop.
“Another adult, a mother, came to me and said ‘Ms. Smith you need to know this…we told Miss Hunt to leave your daughter alone. But they are in a relationship, and she’s 18.’ 18? My daughter is only 14,” Laure said.
Their 14-year-old began to act out, and one weekend morning they opened her door and she was gone.
“It’s the worst thing that I’ve ever experienced,” Jim said. “Somebody took her is what we thought. Because her running away is the furthest thing from my mind. You hear kids getting abducted out of your home. That was heart-wrenching.”
Reported missing, and found safe, the Smiths found out she was with Kate, who picked her up even though she had been told to stay away.
“Didn’t stop, then we didn’t have an alternative but to turn to the law, use it as a last resort,” said Jim.
“This whole story about you blaming Kate for making you daughter gay…where did that come from?” asked CBS12’s Jana Eschbach.
“I don’t know. It didn’t come from us. That’s not how we feel,” Jim said.
Bloggers shred Laurie online as a gay-basher, abusive to her daughter.
“They made me seem as if I’m a monster,” Laurie said.
But says they will stand strong.
“I will be her advocate for what she needs,” Laurie said.
Under an intense amount of national media attention their daughter still goes to high school every day. Hearing now that her parents hate gay people, and their worse fear is that their own daughter will begin to believe these lies.
“That’s why I’m talking to you…The stories that people are saying…I love my daughter and I am willing to do whatever to protect her,” Laurie said.
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wow sondis that vid oh im so mad right now
so ok she said if the victim had been with an 18 yr old male then her parents wouldn’t have cared. yes because apparently parents would be thrilled if they found out their underage daughter were with an 18 yr old male. smh. yes they would be thinking well at least she isn’t with another female wooh. They basically want this swept under the rug so their precious daughter can go on with her life and enjoy her privilege. don’t worry woman even if ur daughter gets a record she still will be hired over a black person without one.
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like I said sondis they blame the black person meanwhile all the white ppl involved including her white husband don’t get vilified. white supremacy at its best. even though the childs father agrees and went to the police with his wife, the black woman is still the bad person in all of this, not her and the husband or where the blame should be on the 18 yr old female but solely on the black female. smdh. I see they didn’t call her husband a monster but she is. ok crazy ppl. Like I said everybody stab us in the back, the gay community was going around talking bout gay is the new black now they wanna call this woman that is trying to protect her daughter they call her a monster and make up lies.
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mstoogood4yall:
“don’t worry woman even if ur daughter gets a record she still will be hired over a black person without one.”
You speak the truth, Ruth! To be perfectly honest, she’s digging herself a deeper grave, taking it to trial, where she is certain to lose and when she does, 15 years and life time sex offender, when she gets out!
That’s white privilege for you, they think they can get away with anything and everything and you know what? they’re right!
They do get away with everything and anything but the fact this case has gotten so much media attention, she has a better chance of getting off with a lesser charge.
White people will be sending in money by the thousands, just like they did for Zimmerman and raise awareness on Kate Hunt, behalf.
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u know what the crazy thing is I bet if this white beyotch get jail time they will probably be sending the black mother death threats.
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I see they talk about this white female as if she a child, got her mother crying on the news for her. Got the news ppl being all like oh this poor woman is having to go through this instead of going to college, she facing jail time. Well if she was so concerned about college she should’ve been putting in applications instead of screwing a 14yr old. Every action has a consequence, if u don’t like the consequence don’t do the action. imam tell them what they tell us if u can’t do the time don’t do the crime.
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Yeah, how sick and twisted is that? You would think they would be sending death threats to the family of the pedophile but no, lets attack the victim and the parents.
That’s the white privilege of the week! My 2nd post on white privilege but my official post via my, “white privilege” segment.
Good one, eh mstoogood4yall? ^_^
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sondis
that is the crazy thing is that she thinks she don’t deserve the sentence. I do feel sorry for the males that were 18 and had a 17 yr old and are on the sex offender list, or the ones who didn’t know the age and the chick had a fake id. but this chick right here, she knew that girl was too young. really she too young for u if she ain’t got no license, don’t have a job, don’t have a car, likes Justin bieber, has light up shoes, rides the bus to school, has to be inside before the street lights come on, has a 9pm curfew, etc. I just can’t see how anybody would want to be with someone that is that young, I see the guys my age and younger im like smh,
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rofl yeah sondis do a white privilege post every week on this thread i’ll be here.
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mstoogood4yall:
Here was the last, white privilege episode.
This 18 year old white boy, not only throws a punch at one policeman but tried to fight 5 of them at once and even pulls one of their guns and fires off a shot in the wall and lives to tell the story!!!
Do i need to say, what would have happened if the 18 year old was black? @ : o O ) >
(http://youtu.be/o2LFW9AMNxA)
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Sondis
u already know if he was black he would’ve been shot dead by the firing squad. They probably would’ve shot him before he got the gun, they would’ve shot him mistaking his cell phone for a gun smh.
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Yeah, that’s the truth right thurr….
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I still wonder how they took john holmes into custody without killing his crazy ass.
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No need to wonder, you know dang well, why they didn’t kill em.
white privilege!!
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@brothawolf
I read some of the comments from the link you posted.
It is like ‘they/she/he/it’ doesn’t so much argue but ramble on and on and hope something sticks. A lot of the tactics and topics (ex. if blacks talked ‘right’ they’ll be successful) are the same, even if the topic has *nothing* to do with it.
Actually, I can’t believe I read as much as I did.
I think my eyes twitched a little when she/he/it/? stated that slavery was the best thing to happen to black people. (???)
And the amazing thing is, these people (she/he/it) actually think they (she/he.it) is saying something.
We’re heard these things 1000000000 times.They were even using similar arguments in the height of the Jim Crow era. It wasn’t correct then and isn’t correct now.
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Yea it is a sad day when I not only have to worry about men pedophiles but now women.
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Lonely Voice,
I see xPraetorius as like a spoiled child crying to get people to pay attention. XPrae is too immature to disagree or agree with. And as expected, he considers it ‘leftist’.
All xPrae does is talk loud and are saying nothing, nothing new, nothing smart and nothing good.
I think xPrae hates it that we have minds of our own, by we I mean “black people”. XPrae wants us to subservient and be “good blacks”, he wants black people to be slaves again. And it tears xPrae apart that we refuse.
It must stink to have an 1800’s mindset in a modern day world.
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I think I’m going to create a ,”white Privilege” segment on abagond’s blog, once a week in the open thread.
Sondis,
I would also enjoy a white crime segment too. LOL
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Brothawolf:
That also would be interesting. lol
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Oh brothawolf maybe u can do the white crime segment once a week on here lol.
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Hmmm…:-)
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@ Anne
I deleted your comment on the Hitler thread. You were dragging it back into the abyss. I am not going to talk about it for now.
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I was thinking about the 14% unemployment of African-Americans and wanted to look up hiring discrimination.
So i checked out the EEOC claims of the past and i wasn’t surprised at what i read.
This is why black people “can’t find work” its not because companies aren’t hiring, its because companies are not hiring, black people!
Here is a few lawsuits that have been, files with the EEOC and have awarded monetary damages.
EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES
Hiring
In November 2012, Alliant Techsystems Inc. paid $100,000 to settle an EEOC suit alleging that the company violated Title VII when it refused to hire an African-American woman for a technical support job at its offices in Edina because of her race. According to the lawsuit, the alleged victim applied and was interviewed several times for the job in May 2007. After the first interview, the recruiter allegedly advised her to take out her braids to appear more professional. She did so and purportedly was later told by the recruiter that Alliant wanted to hire her and that she would be contacted by the company’s Human Resources Department. However, by the time she met with the company’s information technology director, she had put her braids back in. The next day, she was informed that she would not be hired. In June 2007, the company hired a White male for the IT job. The 3-year consent decree, which applies to the company’s headquarters in Minnesota and Virginia, enjoins Alliant from further discriminating in hiring based on race and from retaliating against persons who oppose practices made unlawful under Title VII. Additionally, the company will review its workplace policies to assure that they comply with Title VII and will train its entire staff on the laws against discrimination. EEOC v. Alliant Techsystems Inc., Case No. 0:11-cv-02785-DSD-JJG (D. Minn. consent decree filed Nov. 20, 2012).
In April 2012, Bankers Asset Management Inc. agreed to pay $600,000 to settle an EEOC lawsuit alleging that the real estate company excluded Black applicants from jobs at the company’s Little Rock location based on their race. The firm also allegedly retaliated against other employees and former employees for opposing or testifying about the race discrimination by demoting and forcing one worker out of her job and by suing others in state court. In addition to paying $600,000, the three-year consent decree settling the lawsuit also requires Bankers Asset Management to hold a mandatory, annual three-hour training on race discrimination and retaliation in which its president or another officer participates, among other provisions. EEOC v. Bankers Asset Mgmt. Inc., Civil Action No. 4:10-CV-002070-SWW (E.D. Ark.Apr. 18, 2012).
In February 2012, the owners of Piggly Wiggly supermarkets in Hartsville and Lafayette, Tenn., agreed to pay $40,000 to settle a race and gender discrimination lawsuit filed by the EEOC. In its lawsuit, the EEOC asserted that the Piggly Wiggly locations owned by MWR Enterprises Inc. II violated federal law by maintaining policies and practices that intentionally failed to hire African-Americans because of their race for positions at the company’s Piggly Wiggly store in Hartsville and Lafayette. The EEOC further charged that the company maintained a segregated work force and an established practice of not hiring males for cashier positions at the same locations. The four-year consent decree also requires Defendant MWR Enterprises Inc., II, to establish a written policy which provides that all job assignments will be made without consideration to gender; establish guidelines and procedures for processing employment applications; provide Title VII training on race and gender discrimination to its managers; meet record keeping and reporting requirements; and post a notice about the lawsuit and settlement at its store locations. EEOC v. MWR Enterprises Inc., II, C.A. No. 3:10-cv-00901 (M.D. Tenn. Feb. 23, 2012).
In January 2012, a Johnson City, N.Y -based cleaning company agreed to pay $450,000 to 15 former employees to settle a hiring discrimination and retaliation case. According to an EEOC lawsuit filed in September 2011 in a federal court in Pennsylvania, the executives of the cleaning company prohibited a White supervisor from hiring Black employees for a client in Concordsville, PA. The supervisor continued to hire qualified Black workers, and later was fired for defying her managers’ instructions. The EEOC also alleged that the company forced Black workers at the Concordville worksite to sit in the back of the cafeteria during breaks, and ultimately barred them from the cafeteria altogether The company later fired the entire crew, replacing them with all non-Black workers. The EEOC filed a lawsuit seeking relief for the terminated supervisor and Black employees. In addition to the monetary relief, the company agreed to providing EEO training for its managers and supervisors the company and to submit a follow-up report on remedial measures being taken at the Concordville worksite. EEOC v. Matrix L.L.C., Civil Action No. 2:11-cv-06183 (E.D. Pa. Jan. 6, 2012).
In January 2012, a marine construction and transportation company located in Dyersburg, Tenn., will pay an African-American job applicant $75,000 to settle a racial discrimination lawsuit filed by the EEOC. According to the EEOC’s lawsuit, the company refused to hire a Black job applicant for a deckhand position because of his race in violation of Title VII. In addition to the monetary relief, a three-year consent decree requires the company to use its best efforts to fill up to 25 percent of available positions with African-Americans. Choctaw has also been ordered to maintain records of discrimination complaints, provide annual reports to the EEOC, and post a notice to employees about the lawsuit that includes the EEOC’s contact information. EEOC v. Choctaw Transp. Co., Inc., 1:10-cv-01248-JDB-egb (W.D. Tenn. Jan. 19, 2012).
In September 2011, the EEOC filed suit against Bass Pro Outdoor World, LLC, alleging that the nationwide retailer of sporting goods, apparel, and other miscellaneous products has been discriminating in its hiring since at least November 2005. The EEOC’s suit alleged that qualified African-Americans and Hispanics were routinely denied retail positions such as cashier, sales associate, team leader, supervisor, manager and other positions at many Bass Pro stores nationwide and that managers at Bass Pro stores in the Houston area, in Louisiana, and elsewhere made overtly racially derogatory remarks acknowledging the discriminatory practices, including that hiring Black candidates did not fit the corporate profile. The lawsuit also claims that Bass Pro punished employees who opposed the company’s unlawful practices, in some instances firing them or forcing them to resign. EEOC v. Bass Pro Outdoor World, LLC, Civil Action No. 4:11-cv-03425 (S.D. Tex. Sep. 21, 2011).
In March 2011, a federal district court in Maryland rejected a novel attempt by a national restaurant chain to block the EEOC from airing radio spots seeking Black individuals who applied for a job or worked at the chain’s Baltimore location, in connection with its race bias suit against the restaurant. EEOC v. McCormick & Schmick’s Seafood Rests. Inc., No. 1:08-cv-00984 (D. Md. motion denied Mar. 17, 2011).
In December 2010, the EEOC filed a race discrimination and retaliation suit against a real estate brokerage and management company alleging that the company refused to hire numerous Black applicants and then retaliated against other employees or former employees for opposing the race discrimination. The lawsuit seeks back pay, compensatory and punitive damages, instatement or reinstatement as well as an injunction against future discrimination and retaliation. EEOC v. Cry-Leike, Inc., Civil Action No. 4:10-CV-002070 (E.D. Ark. Dec. 30, 2010).
In November 2010, a Chicago janitorial services provider agreed to pay $3 million to approximately 550 rejected Black job applicants under a four-year consent decree, settling the EEOC’s allegations of race and national origin discrimination in recruitment and hiring. The EEOC had alleged that the provider had recruited through media directed at Eastern European immigrants and Hispanics and hired people from those groups over African Americans, and that the provider’s use of subjective decisionmaking had a disparate impact on African Americans. As part of the decree, the provider also agreed to extensive changes in its employment policies, to engage in “active recruitment” of African American employees, to hire previously rejected Black applicants, to implement training on discrimination and retaliation, and to hire an outside monitor to review compliance with the decree. EEOC v. Scrub Inc., No. 09 C 4228 (N.D. Ill. consent decree entered Nov. 9, 2010).
In June 2010, the EEOC obtained a ruling by the Ninth Circuit that permits the Commission to pursue injunctive relief to stop a coal company mining in the Navajo Nation from discriminating in employment against non-Navajo Indians. In this Title VII case, EEOC claimed mineral lease provisions that require companies mining on the Navajo reservation in Arizona to give employment preferences to Navajos are unlawful. By honoring those provisions and refusing to hire non-Navajo Indians, Peabody discriminates based on national origin, in violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, EEOC asserted. EEOC also can proceed with efforts to secure an injunction against future enforcement of the Navajo hiring preference, the court added. Should a court find a Title VII violation and issue such an injunction, Peabody and the Navajo Nation could file a third-party complaint against the Interior Secretary under Rule 14(a) to prevent the Secretary from seeking to enforce the lease provisions or cancel the leases, it said. EEOC v. Peabody W. Coal Co., No. 06-17261 (9th Cir. June 23, 2010).
In January 2010, an international investment management firm based in Malvern, Pennsylvania settled for $300,000 the EEOC’s Title VII lawsuit, alleging that the firm failed to hire an African American female applicant for a financial planning manager position at defendant’s Charlotte, North Carolina office because of her race. She was the only African American among four candidates, and according to the EEOC, had met or exceeded all requirements for the job, had received highly favorable comments as she progressed through defendant’s interview process, which included multiple in-person and telephone interviews with high level managers, as well as an in-person assessment by a third party on matters such as personality and aptitude. Additionally, at the conclusion of her final interview, defendant’s managing director allegedly told the Black applicant she was “obviously qualified for the position.” The firm, however, offered the job to two less qualified White applicants — the first declined and the second accepted. The 2-year consent decree also enjoins the firm from making hiring decisions based on race and prohibits retaliation. EEOC v. Vanguard Group, Inc., No. 09-04424 (E.D. Pa. Jan. 4, 2010).
In March 2009, a manufacturer and distributor of foodservice equipment has offered permanent employment to an African American applicant and furnished other relief to resolve a race discrimination lawsuit alleging that the company refused to hire the Black applicant into a permanent position at its Fayetteville, Tenn., facility because he disclosed a felony conviction on his application – even though the company hired a White applicant a year earlier who made a similar disclosure. EEOC v. Franke, Inc., dba Franke Foodservice Systems, No. 3:08-cv-0515 (M.D. Tenn. Mar. 26, 2009).
In October 2008, a department store chain in Iowa entered a consent decree agreeing to pay $50,000 and to provide other affirmative relief. EEOC had alleged that the store chain refused to hire qualified Black job applicants for sales, truck driver and other positions in its retail or warehouse facilities for reasons that were not applied to successful White applicants. In addition to the monetary relief, the consent decree requires the store chain to post a remedial notice, provide semi-annual training to managers and supervisors on employee and applicant rights under Title VII and employer obligations under Title VII, and report applicant data and any future complaints related to racial discrimination to the EEOC. EEOC v. Von Maur, No. 06-CV-182 (S.D. Iowa Apr. 19, 2006 settled Oct. 29, 2008).
In July 2008, EEOC resolved a race discrimination and retaliation suit for $140,000 against a Mississippi U-Haul company. The company was accused of discriminating on the basis of race when it hired the son of a selecting official rather than a veteran African American manager, to serve as the company’s marketing company president. The Black manager had worked for U-Haul for ten years as a reservation manager, assistant manager, general manager, area field manager and field relief manager, and held a bachelor’s degree in business manage¬ment as well as having received various awards for performance. The company, however, altered the job’s requirements and hired the executive’s son who lacked a college degree and had scanty experience compared with the Black manager. The manager complained and the company disciplined and fired him. The company has agreed to adopt an online employee handbook and other documents spelling out company policies and practices; to post all vacancies for marketing company president; to provide training on discrimination and retaliation to all board members; and to provide periodic reports to the EEOC. EEOC v. U-Haul Co. of Mississippi, Civil Action No. 3:06cv516 (S.D. Miss. filed July 2008).
In June 2008, a beauty supply chain agreed to pay $30,000 to settle a race discrimination lawsuit in which the EEOC charged that it rescinded a job offer after learning the successful applicant was Black. In a deposition, the former acting store manager of the West Orange store gave sworn testimony that she had a telephone conversation with the district manager after the applicant had applied, and the district manager “told [me] she didn’t want another Black person working in the store.” When the selectee arrived at the store on her starting date, she was informed that she could not be hired due to her race because there would have been too many African Americans at the store. EEOC v. Sally Beauty Supply LLC, Civil Action No. 1:07cv644 (E.D. Tex. settled June 23, 2008).
In September 2007, EEOC upheld an Administrative Judge’s (AJ) default judgment in favor of complainant, a Staff Nurse Supervisor, who had alleged race discrimination when she was not selected for a Nurse Manager position. The AJ sanctioned the agency for failing to timely investigate the complaint. Relief included retroactive promotion, back pay and a tailored order to allow complainant to submit her request for fees incurred solely for the successful prosecution of the appeal. Royal v. Department of Veterans Affairs, EEOC Appeal No. 0720070045 (Sep. 10, 2007).
In January 2007, the Commission found discrimination based on race (African-American) when a federal employee was not selected for the position of Criminal Investigator despite plainly superior qualifications as compared to the selectee. The manager who recommended the selectee, ignored complainant’s qualifications and was reported to have previously told another African-American applicant that his “Black ass would never become a special agent.” The Commission affirmed the AJ’s finding of discrimination and ordered the retroactive promotion of complainant, back pay, compensatory damages ($75,000), attorney’s fees, and other relief. Green v. Department of Homeland Security, EEOC Appeal No. 0720060058 (January 19, 2007).
In November 2006, the Commission found that a federal employee had been discriminated against based on his race (Asian/Pacific Islander) when he was not selected for the position of Social Insurance Specialist. The Commission affirmed the AJ’s finding that the agency’s articulated reason for failing to select complainant — the selectee was “highly recommended” to the selecting official — was not worthy of belief since complainant was “definitely recommended” and that discrimination more likely motivated the agency’s decision. The Commission ordered the retroactive promotion of complainant, back pay, compensatory damages ($5,000), attorney’s fees, and other relief. Paras v. SSA, EEOC Appeal No. 0720060049 (November 6, 2006).
In August 2006, a federal appellate court in Illinois reversed a negative trial court ruling and decided that the EEOC had produced sufficient evidence to proceed to trial in its race discrimination case against Target Corporation, a major retailer. According to the lawsuit, an interviewing official for the company refused to schedule interviews for four Black applicants seeking entry-level management positions because of their race. The Commission’s evidence included inculpatory tester evidence and expert testimony indicating that the names and voices of the Black applicants, as well as some of the organizational affiliations (e.g. Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc.) disclosed on their resumes, could have served as proxies for race. EEOC v. Target Corporation, 460 F.3d 946 (7th Cir. 2006).
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Wow! and these are the cases we do not hear about. This is why I have been doing my best to buy black. Put my money into black businesses so black people can hire our own.
Black automobiles was mentioned on one of the groups I follow.
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sharina:
Yeah, you said it honey! “black automobiles” ? what does that mean?
I try to look for black owned business but the reality is, there isn’t many, being the banks won’t give loans to black people to open businesses.
This is done on purpose as white people don’t want blacks to own businesses, they want black money to keep on going into white hands, so their race will always be powerful.
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and they give loans to arabs and Koreans to open their cheap stores in black neighborhoods to get rid of black businesses. all those lawsuits wow, the only one I heard about was some store called wet seal that discriminated against black managers, and had them fired to be replaced by whites, and they wanted blonde hair blue eyed person to be the manager. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/wet-seal-sued_n_1670003.html
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@ sondis
I follow black owned businesses on facebook (amazing page that I was put on to in the last month). I buy most of my stuff from them.
Anyway they put out a post a week back about how Toyota refused to advertise in black magazines. The poster stated that they only see our money and not us. They went on to say blacks need to make black automobiles. Make our own cars.
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@ sharina
they do just see our money and not us, they know they can get away with it because we don’t demand it and still spend money with them. trojanpam did a post about that very thing, how they don’t have black babies in diaper commercials and exclude black ppl from a lot of commercials. I remember that acura commercial that was hiring for a friendly light skinned man to play the role of car salesman. Since they produce and we don’t producediaper, toilet tissue companies,cars, etc.. for now, they don’t have to put us in commercials as we will have no choice but to buy some of the products anyway. http://racismws.com/2013/07/29/have-you-noticed/ ms pams post
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For all you retro gals (and fellows) out there…
i am happy to report that after re-twisting my locs yesterday, i was finally able to style them in victory rolls to support the war effort!
LOL!!!
xoxo
Phoebe
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I had no idea what you were talking about so I had to go look it up. NICE!!
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@ : o O ) >
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@ Phoebe
rofl, I had to look that one up, but that does look nice. I saw this crazy episode of taboo where this woman had everything from the 50’s in her house and even dressed like she was from the 50’s. I kinda like the style back then as women were allowed to be women and be a healthy weight.
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ooh that was fun with expraetor he’s a funny guy ha ha like
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maybe someone can help me out here, I’m looking for the black equivalent to stormfront or amren.
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@Joel:
Try the Bugs Bunny Road Runner show.
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rofl, um when u find it joel let me know oh and while you’re at it find a black version of the kkk too. ps. the black panthers don’t count they have not lynched whites and lit crosses.
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I just found out about Black Wall Street.![:/](https://s0.wp.com/wp-content/mu-plugins/wpcom-smileys/uneasy.svg)
No one ever taught me that in school.
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@ mstoogood4yall
I have to wonder if the black panthers are as bad as people always claim. Has anyone did a post on them that you know of?
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^ sharina
no I haven’t seen a post on them, but I do see they have done positive things for the black community like feed people, created a youth band, some health clinics. they were influenced by Malcolm x. http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/
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http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/black_panthers.htm
i’m not saying they were angels but they did do positive things, and u have to wonder why they put them under surveillance not only them but the peaceful ones too. Nobody was safe, they killed the peaceful ones and arrested the ones who weren’t so peaceful. They put black ppl under watch and infiltrated their organizations and all most wanted was equality, yet they ignored the white mobs that were taking over cities and killing ppl. and the black panthers are considered the bad guys rofl.
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@ Lonely Voice
yes I learned about black wall street from a black blog about 3 or 4 yrs ago. We can’t be surprised that the enemy will not teach us about our worth or what we are capable of. They want us to stay in ignorance, if u do not know yourself u will not know ur potential and what u can do. This is why they try to take slavery out of history books, yet they are making movies about black maids, butlers, and slaves. Yet no movie about black wall street, the victims still have not received an apology or any financial compensation. They don’t want us to know that so that we buy into colorblind bs and won’t attempt to make another black wall street. They also got jealous when black veterans were returning home from the war and the black neighborhood had a celebration so they go over there and started burning things and beating ppl. They do not want blacks to out shine them if we did then white supremacy would be done. SO they close black schools and open more private prisons.
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@ Abagond
Please cancel the xPraetorius Show…
He clearly won’t stop his endless tirade. I could understand it if he were willing to accept the facts that are being given to him, but instead he just wants a medium to share his stereotypes and inaccurate beliefs, and you are providing that to him.
Of course, it’s a good demonstration of just how ignorant he is, but it’s getting a little out of hand IMO
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i think it was wise ti wise to relegate him to his own thread.
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@jefe
Why not just rename this blog, “The Miseducation of xPraetorius”
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I can’t find the suggestions link, I hope Abagond could do a post on Jesse Jackson and his wife.
http://politic365.com/2013/08/09/equal-justice-why-hasnt-bob-mcdonnell-been-indicted/
http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2013/08/18/the-bookout-matter-what-next
The above recent links show how Jesse Jackson and his wife are sentenced to jail, but these two are free as birds. It makes me sick to my stomach.
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I can’t believe the man who starred in the show the Famous Jett Jackson is dead, I used to love that show, it was one of the few shows that had a black male being the hero. He was young ,handsome, and talented, wow. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/famous-jett-jackson-star-lee-608974
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@resw77 and jefe
The thing is, I did research on Haiti before and this was *never* mentioned. I need to get my hands on some books/studies/online sites that aren’t euro-centric.
At this time he just seems to be picking fights with people, like that Magical Progress thread.
It is getting to be really annoying.
You would think with as long as his posts are they would actually be saying something.
@mstoogood4yall
I wonder how many other black centers of business were destroyed?
People always harp on blacks never doing anything and not doing things ourselves, and it turns out we do and they destroy it.
And if all of these businesses were destroyed. I wonder how much that set us back. And we have people who only think they owe us
Just like I thought Haiti was poor solely because of corrupt leaders, until I read they had to pay the French government back for the revolt.
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*And we have people who only think reparations is about slavery.
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@resw77
I agree he/it/she is just picking fights. It will only be a matter of time before every post on this blog has a stupid comment from them on it. People should have ignored their comments early on instead of feeding them with responses. Now we have this mess. As I said before, they enjoy making people on this blog angry and consider it an accomplishment when they get a response. They should,have been ignored. Just my opinion.
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@Anne: I agree with your comment. I don’t see reason to respond to him/her.
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@Anne
I agree.
Better news, is that Russell Simmons is seeking to make good after his serious Harriet Tubman mistake.
http://newsone.com/2683757/russell-simmons-harriet-tubman-interview/
I admit I teared up a bit when he mentioned that black women educated him and knowing they were hurt is what changed his mind.
I hope he really learns from this and this is not just him covering his rear (can I be optimistic?)
I feel like all BW ever wanted to do was be understood.
I wonder if any of those typical BW hating black men on YT commented on the Youtube video…?
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@Mstoogoood,
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Okay, I meant to say he was such a cuttie pie wasn’t he?
My heart goes out to his loved ones…
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RIP to the young actor from The Famous Jett Jackson. So sad.
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Can any of you in the NYC area attend the following and do a guest post?
http://www.togather.com/event/646/baratunde-and-tanner-in-new-york.html
Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race
Hosted by Soledad O’Brien Featuring Baratunde Thurston and Tanner Colby
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@ lonely Voice
I don’t care about black Hollywood period they sold out.
“I feel like all BW ever wanted to do was be understood.”
we must first understand ourselves, how can someone say understand me, know me, love me, when that person neither knows, loves ,or understands themselves? They can’t. If we have knowledge of self and love of self and understand ourself nobody can say anything that will mess that up.
as for the black women haters, they are foolish males who will stay at the bottom. If no nation rises higher than its women, what are they doing? they do not want the black community to improve because if they did they would respect, love, and protect black women. Do unto others as u want others to do unto u, if black women are disrespected, exploited, and laughed at, then the black community will be disrespected, exploited, and laughed at. Those males are damaged and are self serving they are not for black ppl but for themselves. FYI some of them are backed by white corporations, they are a puppet for white supremacy, tommy Sotomayor I heard has cocoa cola to sponsor him hmmm…
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@jefe
Now that sounds pretty interesting. Too bad I am not in the NYC area.
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@ Jefe
Trojan Pam has an excellent post on “Lee Daniels’ The Butler”:
http://racismws.com/2013/08/17/is-lee-daniels-the-butler-really-a-black-movie/
No, she did not watch it, but she found out who wrote the script and who put up the money for it – mostly whites.
The idea of doing a film about a White House butler – in the time of a black president, set in a time of the civil rights movement – sounds like the kind of thing a white person would think of and want to make. It certainly fits THEIR stereotypes.
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in this weeks episode of white crime and white privilege
A white male in his 20’s opened fire in a Georgia school, thankfully nobody was injured or killed. He allegedly had an ak 47 and told the lady at the front desk to call the media.This school ppl had to be buzzed in, and show id, so I wonder how he got in. Not surprised, he was arrested without being shot or killed ain’t that somethin. http://www.ajc.com/news/ap/crime/official-suspect-in-custody-at-ga-school/nZTSD/
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So this week I started with learning Chinese numbers with my daughter. Although the focus is on her, It is interesting to see my little 2 year old pick this up as well. I’m excited. 🙂
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@ Sharina: That is wonderful, the joy of seeing your little one learn something. I am happy for you.
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@Sharina: Congrats both. Now *that’s* the way to raise kids. 🙂
@Everyone: apologies if this has been posted before, but I just saw it for the first time and it seemed like a worthwhile article.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/06/29/bill-maher-calls-scalia-trump-palin-racist-paula-deen.html
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@ Mary and Rick
Thank you both. 🙂
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@Sharina: When my son’s first daughter was born, he had her name tattooed on his arm in Hindi Devenagri script. He had always found it an attractive and interesting script when he’d seen it in my Hindi language learning materials – even though he never learned the language himself.
His mother and I divorced when he was a kid. Although I was awarded custody of my son and daughter from that marriage, he eventually decided that he wanted to go and live where discipline was not a priority, so he grew up partly in an overtly racist environment (a subject that caused much friction during my brief marriage). When he got the Devenagri tattoo done, and I asked him who had told him how to spell it correctly, he apologised for not asking me and said that he had asked “a proper Indian lady” whom he knew. I found his response hugely reassuring – He seemed to have escaped the worst influences that he might have absorbed. He’s a good lad.
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@ Rick
Things like that put a smile on my face. I bet you are proud of him.
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The thing that is shocking to me is the more people deny racism in America….the more i am seeing people speak out on it. I think this need to happen because i am sick of the “I don’t see….it don’t exist” attitudes.
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/butler-director-lee-daniels-thinks-america-more-racist-202100995.html
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Sharina
The comments on yahoo never surprise me it is becoming like fox. as much as i don’t like oprah or lee daniels, i think lee daniels is right. Whites will not want to hear that the country is more racist with obama in office, even though they have said hate groups have grown since he became president. If they won’t even listen to ppl that look like them there is no way they will listen to a black person pointing out racism. And oprah did not help with her saying she was discriminated against then backing down and apologizing.
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@Abagond
Yep, I still have to see it, but I strongly suspect that it is targeted at a white audience with a white agenda. Something like: Yes, the US was racist in the past, but we are all past that now. Less than 100 years ago young black boys grew up uneducated on cotton farms in the South, and now we’ve got a black President. Look at far we have come! (ie, we finally got to post-racial). Already the polls show that it is most popular with white baby boomers.
The uneducated Georgia cotton farm boy thing upset me as the real Butler was from the nearby Virginia piedmont region. It upset me that he made up an activist son that he never had. It also makes it look like white liberals were always sympathetic. Those evil racist people were KKK types or southerners that white liberals didn’t like either. They really picked stereotypes there.
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@Sharina
Then the movie might even backfire, since we are still seeing white people killing black people and getting away with it. I wonder how it will mesh with Fruitvale station. Does it show white people killing blacks (and getting away with it.)?
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@Sharina
Is this a playgroup just for children, or are you also trying to learn with your daughter? Maybe you can get some Chinese language children videos to watch at home too.
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@ Jefe
I actually have been trying to learn with her.
” Does it show white people killing blacks (and getting away with it.)?”—I have not seen it yet.
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mstoogood4yall
I don’t read the comments. I might end up cussing someone out. You know I was always told to think positive so maybe they feel if they think racism is non existent then it will disappear.
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@ mstoogood4all, the comments were actually funny. Here we have an article that says racism has increased in then a bunch of people go and give good examples of it.
At Sharina, if you have a Chinese consulate around you might want to stop by and see if they have any activities or programs adverts on the wall. Also you might want to check Meetup.com and see if there are any Chinese meet-ups. I use to go the Japanese meet up and the discussions were fun. Sharina I recommend babel and you can find many good youtube videos for kids to learn Chinese.
@ Jefe, I went to the site and the author of “Most of My Good Friends are Black” the cover took me back to the late seventies early eighties shame on you for making me remember those horrible fashion years. Although, I would have to say all my school pictures look like that except in mine I am the one black kid in the class.
It will be my Son’s first birthday tomorrow. He has grown a lot, I am profoundly happy about that.
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Kinshasa: Has anyone reading this lived in Kinshasa? Or even been there? I am interested in doing a post on it and would like feedback on it so that I do not look like an idiot (the usual with my posts on Africa). If you would like to do a guest post, that would, of course, be even better.
Either way, please drop me an email at abagond at gmail.com
Thanks.
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@ Jefe
Is there any type of videos that you would recommend
@King of Trouble
Thanks a lot. 🙂
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Ok everyone. I have been following the dream defenders. Here is the result of their protest:
“Friends,
After 31 days and 30 nights in the Florida State Capitol, the Dream Defenders ended our peaceful sit0in of Governor Rick Scott’s office. Although we have left the Capitol, we are not leaving the fight.
We came to the Capitol more than a month ago to demand that Florida’s political leadership deal with the circumstances that lead to the killing of Trayvon Martin. We developed our own legislative proposal, Trayvon’s Law, to reform Stand Your Ground, end the School-to-Prison Pipeline, and ban racial profiling. We are proud to inform you that we were able to secure processes for moving forward on each issue:
· After originally denying the request, Speaker of the House Will Weatherford called for a subcommittee to host hearings on Stand Your Ground in the fall.
· The heads of the Florida Department of Education and the Florida Department of Juvenile Justice to discuss strategies for dismantling the School-to-Prison Pipeline..
· The Florida Department of Law Enforcement has agreed to discuss racial profiling policies, where Defenders will have the opportunity to bring experts in the field to testify before the department.
· Portions of Trayvon’s Law have been introduced and State Senators workshop the legislation through briefings and conferences in the fall.
· In addition to having that bill filed, we triggered a legislative poll, a head count to see where legislators stand on the issue so we now know which legislatures to focus our energy on.
We are very proud of these successes but we will not stop until we change the reality for young people in Florida. One of the reasons we chose to leave the Capitol when we did was to build our movement around the state. As we return to our campuses and communities, we will be working to involve more people in calling for Trayvon’s Law. We will continue to pressure the Governor and Legislature to take action in the lead up to the hearing and meeting that will be happening during the last week of September. In addition we have announced our plans to for a massive voter registration drive to engage young people around the state in the political process in a way that won’t allow politicians to ignore them.
We are proud of what we accomplished in the Capitol. Thousands of people joined our struggle in-person and online. We held our own legislative session, to help explain the issues addressed in Trayvon’s Law and demonstrate the kind of leadership we need. We were joined by many allies from around the country including Harry Belafonte, Jesse Jackson, Talib Kweli, and Julian Bond. We learned a lot in the process and are more ready than ever to win.
We hope you will join us in the next stage of our struggle for to end the criminalization of young people in Florida. Click the link below to let us know that you’re in for the long haul like we are”
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Aga,
Make it stop. It looks like the monster you created has found out how to comment on your other posts. I am certain that if you let this spread like I think it will, you will lose loyal readers due to exhaustion from reading those silly flame wars or whatever the old people call it. Just my opinion.
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Anne, do you really think anyone is reading those comments besides the few hardy commenters willing to waste their time…
I only read the first few comments, then stopped once I saw where the thread was going to go..
Take heart, everyone is on “haitus” waiting for this fart-storm to run out of gas.
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@ Anne
I just noticed that. Thanks for the heads up.
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I have been reading up and trying to catch up on some late reading. Have just finished “Warriors Don’t Cry.” I came across a PBS site ( http://www.pbs.org/thewar/at_home_civil_rights_minorities.htm )Which states during WW2 there were “Race-related riots occurred in 47 cities during the war” I can’t seem to find more that five spoken of does anyone else know more about this?
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Agabond,
No problem. Just some more unwanted advice, you should ban it now. Disrupting the conversation on this blog is the only goal here and you are falling for it. One of two things will happen if you don’t. Good commenters will stop because the conversation has gotten juvenile or bad commenters will increase because they found your weak spot. Don’t humor yourself and think that any strategy other than blocking it will work. But again, that’s just me.
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Abagond, where did you get that photo of the people holding hands?
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@ Paige
That is from the March on Washington 50 years ago:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/06/a-look-back-at-the-march-on-washington-for-jobs-and-freedom/
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as an anecdote, i was on the bus aways back you know reading your blog it was the ‘why do japanese people alwys draw themselves as white?’ thread and this young black kid, a boy, maybe 12 saw that heading on my phone and the look on his face was just total idk how to describe it confused i guess
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This recent back and forth with xPraetorius has invoked a change in me. While many agree that it was bad to give him a platform, I think it was good for me to realize that I am too darn nice to some individuals and it needs to stop. The end result is they take my kindness for a weakness.
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i find xpratetorious to be boorish and a snob, like intellectually for sure, but it was an interesting experiment in terms of cross-posting and sort of the context of the whole blogosphere and it’s sort of like hosting another media professional regardless of most people’s perceptions of the said broadcaster…
also abagond asking whether xp thought this site was a black stormfront, very interestiing…
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It was interesting in a sense.
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eh,
o abagond, quid factus es?
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Sharina
This recent back and forth with xPraetorius has invoked a change in me. While many agree that it was bad to give him a platform, I think it was good for me to realize that I am too darn nice to some individuals and it needs to stop. The end result is they take my kindness for a weakness.
xPraetorius:
Not to worry, Sharina, that is not a weakness of yours.
Best,
— x
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v8driver said:
i find xpratetorious to be boorish and a snob, like intellectually for sure, but it was an interesting experiment in terms of cross-posting and sort of the context of the whole blogosphere and it’s sort of like hosting another media professional regardless of most people’s perceptions of the said broadcaster…
also abagond asking whether xp thought this site was a black stormfront, very interestiing…
xPraetorius:
Funny, my opinion was much more positive regarding everyone here, despite their unconscionably rude behavior toward me. Maybe I was mistaken.
Best,
— x
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v8driver said:
xPraetorius:
@v8: just out of curiosity, what did you conclude from my response that I’m not familiar with “stormfront?”
Best,
— x
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@Abagond
Thanks. I like that photo, but I notice there’s a young brown-skinned man in the picture who is wearing a peach-colored bandaid on his arm. You know something needs to change when you can’t even cover your wounds properly. Is it easier to find brown bandaids nowadays?
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@Paige
Are there brown-colored bandaids????
Anyway,
Can anyone recommend some good, non-eurocentric history books to read? I just read the post about ethnic studies being banned in Arizona. I got some good ideas for books from that post.
I have just found out about black wall street, so a good book on that, if anyone has read anything?
I am finishing up editing my novel, and already have a new idea for my next book. I want to focus on racism and sexism. It will be controversial, so I’m probably going to have to self-publish. I’m going to write up the outline of it tomorrow and draft the first chapter. Feeling strangely excited.
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I am not a crime stat person but here you go, my numbers are probably wrong, i got through calculus 3 but i still use a calculator for a dinner bill for 4 people etc. practically for minature golf! lol
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Prisons_and_Jails#Average
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V8driver,
I think agabond is doing this deliberately. Can’t explain it otherwise.
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@anne kwamla pointed out on the notes on x thread at the top, i guess it’s easy to forget after all the other stuff, what abagond’s motivation was, but if there’s 15 of them posting as one id (xpraetorius) shouldn’t that technically violate the multiple identity rule here? in inverse, perhaps? clutching at straws here
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@v8, I saw that post but I think there is more to it. Otherwise that rule would have been applied long ago. I made a prediction that something like this would happen when they first showed up. This type is easy to spot which makes me wonder why it has been allowed to go on for so long.
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v8driver said:
xPraetorius:
@v8: Are you really poring through Abagond’s rules to find ways to haul me before Abagond’s court, have me exiled and shut me up?!? 🙂 I guess you can feel free to, but it will confirm what I’ve thought: This group does not like any challenge to their preconceived notions. I’ve disagreed vehemently with what Abagond said so well at the top of the “Notes on xPraetorius” thread: “I have become what I hate.” He could have been on-the-nose about you and others.
I appreciate the thought that I’m 15 people…I’m just one single, solitary very fast typist, and a very principled person. You all merit the courtesy of my honesty. I disagree with you, and I heartily disapprove of your hate speech. If you want me just to shut up, I’ll say to you: “Should Rosa Parks just have gone to the back of that bus?”
Best,
— x
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This week’s episode of “white privilege show”.
I am your host, Sondis. Bringing you the latest and greatest from a white supremacist, perspective.
White female teacher, has sex with 5 high school students.
I was surprised this white woman even got charged but i’m sure we won’t do the entire 5 years.
(http://youtu.be/XzvJqFfJqoM)
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@ All
I did not think it would ever come to this, but xPraetorius is OFF TOPIC here!!!
He has a whole freakin’ thread of his own. The Open Thread is already long enough without adding his long-winded comments on a topic which already has a dedicated thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LMFAO @ xPraetorius being off topic on the open thread!
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Agabond, take a look at this link. See if it reminds you of anyone on is blog that you know and love. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
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Hahaha!
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@ v8driver
Multiple people can write under one identity. It is the other way round (sock puppets) that is not allowed.
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@xpraetorius
“This is when the very thought or site of my online ID causes the IQ to drop 50 or more points”
Correction to your post: “site” should have been “sight”.
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xDS – there’s even a name for it already. 😛
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@abagond
“Multiple people can write under one identity. ”
Of course that’s not the case with xpraetorius, as he is the only one using the “xpraetorius” identity on your blog. In his words:
“Each of us has his or her specialty, so between us we cover a lot of ground. My colleague, the petite black woman, took on BrothaWolf, and I took on Abagond’s group. ”
Of course we all know there’s no “petite black woman” anyway…
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Agabond, it just keeps following people around to other threads to try to get their attention. I told you this was going to happen. And you seem to be enjoying it because you think it makes you look like you are defending open discussion. Be careful, you might not like where this is going.
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resw77 said:
@xpraetorius
“This is when the very thought or site of my online ID causes the IQ to drop 50 or more points”
Correction to your post: “site” should have been “sight”.
xPraetorius:
That is, of course, correct. If I were snarky by nature, I’d point out that you just surfaced the very first thing that anyone here has <b.actually been able to correct, but I won’t because that would be snarky. 🙂
Best,
— x
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resw77 said:
xPraetorius:
@resw77: You tell her that, ok? Then I’d suggest you step back, ’cause you will find out just how wrong you are. 🙂
Best,
— x
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@resw77
One person has been doing all these posts???
I call BS.
Unless someone doesn’t eat, drink, sleep, or leave his/her house, I don’t think that is possible.
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Herneith said:
xPraetorius:
Wow! A loon, a liar, a racist, an a^^hole, a clown! That little exercise in the irrational, Herneith does nicely cap off your entire irrational oeuvre, with a crescendo of foaming, vein-bulging, wild-eyed bile. A tour de force! Brava!
Best,
— x
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@xpraetorius
“That is, of course, correct. If I were snarky by nature, I’d point out that you just surfaced the very first thing that anyone here has <b.actually been able to correct, but I won’t because that would be snarky."
Another correction: you are snarky. You're the one who corrects "stupid" and "nonsensical" posts.
"You tell her that, ok? Then I’d suggest you step back, ’cause you will find out just how wrong you are. "
LOL. Who are you really trying to convince?
Here's a suggestion: be honest, not just b/c we see right through you, but b/c you'll feel much better inside.
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Since my post from earlier was completely buried. I’ll re-post:
Can anyone recommend some good, non-eurocentric history books to read? I just read the post about ethnic studies being banned in Arizona. I got some good ideas for books from that.
I have just found out about black wall street, so a good book on that, if anyone has read anything?
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@Lonely Voice
“Unless someone doesn’t eat, drink, sleep, or leave his/her house, I don’t think that is possible.”
Right, he could be lying (again), but I just think he doesn’t have a life…I mean, would you befriend someone like that?
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Lonely Voice said:
xPraetorius:
Or, maybe there’s another goal, as I explained to Kwamla a bit back.
Bes
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@Lonely Voice
“Can anyone recommend some good, non-eurocentric history books to read? ”
I thought Abagond had a thread on this topic, but I’d suggest Cheikh Anta Diop’s The African Origin of Civilisation (which you have probably read). It is, of course, written from a Senegalese perspective, but is full of valuable information…
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resw77 said:
xPraetorius:
More mystical, magical mind-reading, resw77? If you can read minds, why are you wasting your time with mine? (<– teed it up again for you…) You should be out there reading Steve Ballmer's or Eric Schmidt's mind. If you could do that, you'd be richer than 10 Oprah's! Then, with your newly made billions, you could go do anything you want!
Oh, I am being honest, and I feel quite good inside, thank you.
Best,
— x
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Lonely Voice said:
xPraetorius:
I enjoyed “Arica to 1875,” by Robin Hallett. One could, of course, argue that because Hallett was British, he was therefore eurocentric, but I found the book quite even-handed. He spent a good deal of his time — in the book and in his life — not toeing a eurocentric line.
Best,
— x
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@xpraetorius
“‘If you can read minds, why are you wasting your time with mine?”
Seeing through your BS, in no way implies any attempts to mind read.
“You should be out there reading Steve Ballmer’s or Eric Schmidt’s mind. If you could do that, you’d be richer than 10 Oprah’s! ”
Correction: “10 Oprahs” not “Oprah’s”
In fact, you don’t know what I read or how wealthy I am. But, I know that if you spent a fraction of the time you spend ranting and whining on this blog as you did on your own blog, you might have something worth reading.
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Agabond,
Again, I just want to point out to you what you are allowing to happen in the name of making yourself look like you’re high-minded. If a poster has to repost a comment just to get a response because it was buried…..you other be losing control of your blog. Good luck claiming your prize. Whatever it is.
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@ Anne
If it is going where I think it is going then that it a grim outlook.
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@sharina, it isn’t going there it already is there. Get ready to have them/it shout you down on every comment you make here. Their only goal is to disrupt this blog by putting the focus on them. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I warned several of you to not engage them but you did. Even when they try to hijack your comments by responding when you didn’t address them, it would have been better to ignore them. Honestly, what do you guys gain by pointing out a person’s prejudices to them when in their hearts they know the only reason they are arguing with you is because they are prejudiced? It is a waste of your time. Better to leave them to chase their own tail than to enter a war of words. Half of the time, their purpose is to see how long they can keep you in conversation so they can measure their ability to be evasive and twist your words against you. My advice for the regulars here is to grow up and leave this thing to play with itsself. Talk around it, talk over it, but don’t talk to it. You have nothing to gain by doing that.
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@ Anne
I will consider it a lesson learned. I used to wonder why some of the regulars would ignore trolls and now I know full well why.
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I’m glad Anne saw it from the get go. Stop feeding the attention whore.
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I got this on my facebook and I thought I would share.
http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/america-tonight-blog/2013/8/22/ex-cons-campaignagainstviolenceanditsworking.html
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@ Sharina
That is great those men stepped up and are helping the at risk youth. definitely need more stories like that. its nice to see they turned their life aroun and are trying to help others do the same.Another blog said that al Jazeera is a better news than cnn, fox, etc. I may have to start watching.
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@mstoogood4yall
Here is another I have been reading up on. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2180474/Philadelphias-Fletcher-Street-Urban-cowboys-tackle-gang-violence-drugs-inner-city-America.html#ixzz2d11jvMXE
So I am convinced we have others stories but the news don’t want to report much of anything positive black.
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That is cool sharina, black cowboys ridin in the city. That is really great they do that and the youth learn responsibility and have confidence. It’s good they don’t listen to their peers and do what makes them happy. I imagine if these programs were all over there would be less troubled or bored youth.
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@ Lonely Voice
What a great question! I started to give my own answer to it, but it looks like it will become a post.
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@Lonely Voice, Before The Mayflower, Lerone Bennett,Jr. one of Abagond’s book recommendations, Creating Black Americans, Nell Irvin Painter. I am enjoying these if this helps.
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Lonely Voice: Slavery,Opposing Viewpoints, Greenhavenpress. Maybe you would be interested in this put this is my contribution. Hope this helps.
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Is it me or does Miley Cyrus seem “obsessed” or “preoccupied” with Black ladies booties??
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@phoebeprunelle: She is just trying to do whatever she can do to stay relevant, But yes,about that also. That was a cringeworthy performance. I am disappointed Robin Thicke would agree to a performance like that, in that awful stripped suit. The funny thing that had me howling like a wolf, was Will Smith and his family’s facial expressions. I didn’t see the show just seeing internet blogs and LMAO.
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^I wondered about that also.^ Typo.
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I just finished reading “Warriors Don’t Cry” it was a very interesting read.
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@ mary & Phoebeprunelle
I didn’t watch but all over the internet they were talking about her so I looked at her performance and then I knew why will smith and his family were looking the way they did lmbao. Some ppl were saying the way that one black woman was on stage and miley slapping her behind reminded them of sarah baartman. She looked like she had devil horns coming outta her head, and robin steal a song thicke wtf was he wearing looking like willie wonka. And that was nasty they were on each other like that, miley cannot twerk. Lord she was shaking her little tush and her tailbone her whole body was shaking. There has to be guidelines to twerking .
The guidelines for twerking:
1. thou should haveth an arse
2. thou shall haveth rhythm
3. thou shall not be twerking in skimpy outfits, twerking is already provocative u don’t need to up it, its like having ur arse and cleavage out, choose one u don’t do both its overkill. u don’t need a thong or booty shorts to twerk, if u gonna do that go to the strip club and then u can get paid.
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@ mstoogood4yall
I have a Tumblr blog and have read some VERY interesting commentary regarding the accessorizing of black culture by white artists for white benefit and relevancy (Miley, Justin T, even Robin T) and when stuff backfires, they shed their blackness like a winter coat while still maintaining status and innocence, etc. I think it would be a great pop culture blog subject for Abagond because even these teeny boppers believe that Miley is “lost and searching for attention and trying to send a message..” It sickens me.Twerking was ghetto, hoodrat, etc before she decided to embarrass herself and take it mainstream. I stopped watching award shows years ago because of the disappearance of real music and artistry only to be replaced with white knock offs of black “sounding” music.
Eeeeeeewwwwwww.
SK
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Yes sk
I agree, other black ppl are noticing it too, I still think we should not show them anything develop a code of silence. Whenever we teach them something they steal it and don’t want to give credit to the creators. They start off with black ppl then they get crossover appeal and ditch us they start singing pop and getting white fans. I don’t watch award shows either, and the black artists that imo sound better don’t get awards and recognized the way they should, while the watered down white artists do. I blame black hollywod for this mess and the black ppl that support these thieves. I kinda liked robin thicke’s music for a minute but I never brought his cd thank god. I don’t really support any artists now, the ones that are great do not get played on the radio. I’ve been noticing them putting out crazy black rappers, talking about nothing while they starting to take over rnb and hip hop. I can’t believe we went from having all these soul singers, rnb, neo soul, new jack swing etc. to nothing, to just rappers, like how did that happen. Now the ppl in the uk are taking notes and copying us and their music is better than the garbage on the radio here.
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@ Lonely Voice
My comment to you that grew into a post:
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Seems like I am going to have to do a post on Miley Cyrus. She keeps coming up – in a bad way. The VMAs was hardly the start of it.
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And Don Lemon too.
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She does keep coming up in a “bad” way for white people who do not want to accept this about her:
She wants to be a Black woman.
I only said what i said up thread b/c she habitually “twerks” with Black women alongside her and finds a way to get those same Black women bent over in front of her.
Cyrus isn’t gay or bisexual, nor is she necessarily exploiting Black women. I think if it were so much about her wanting to shed her Disney image–there is plenty of white trash culture she could have indulged. But why go to a subculture dominated by Black youths–particularly that of the young Black women???
0_o?
Questions, questions, questions…..
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After hearing the hodge twins comment on the subject and her being called a boiled chicken by a commenter on facebook, I by no way see myself taking any subject regarding Miley cyrus seriously.
As to Robin “Zebra” Thicke……song stealing……it is best I just not say what it truly on my mind about him.
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Has anyone watched or heard of the talk show The Real?
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phoebe,
“there is plenty of white trash culture she could have indulged. But why go to a subculture dominated by Black youths–particularly that of the young Black women???”
Because it is popular especially with young people like Miley Cyrus.
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They discussed Miley on Clutch Magazine
I found this comment by Gina to be the most telling:
“Miley Cyrus started out as a rock fan. Remember when she wanted re-invent her image before as some neo Janis Joplin 70s rock stuff but it all still came out as convuluted corporate cookie cutter music? I mean she tried to say she liked Radiohead and Radiohead was not having it.
So, since the whole rock avenue didn’t work for her, now she is going the one community she knows will accept her tomfoolery. The black ‘urban hood’ community. Get outta here. She will fail in this setting too.
Her behind should have just stuck with straight pop and/or country.
The sad thing is, I was sort of interested to see what new music she was coming out with because of the whole ‘punk rock’ rebellious style but she just churned out the same crap she’s been cranking out for years.
I’m not offended or impressed.
She will never be a great musician or song writer because she doesn’t have an original bone in her body.”
More here: http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2013/06/miley-cyrus-i-love-hood-music-but-wont-be-the-white-nicki-minaj/comment-page-8/#comments
Oh yeah, and I hate how she is using black girls as props. They aren’t even really background dancers. They are watching her dance and seeming in ‘awe’ of her. It was disgusting to watch. It made me uncomfortable.![:/](https://s0.wp.com/wp-content/mu-plugins/wpcom-smileys/uneasy.svg)
I seen the music video too (since I saw the video on the VMAs, I got curious). And it has the same thing.
And she seems to have a fascination with black women’s rear ends, especially the larger ones. Like they are so other and strange.
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@ Sharina: I was not impressed with “The Real”, If you want a diversion and some fluff, then I guess you could view it for that. It’s just fluff.
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Here is a video for all the white people on this blog, that assume all black people are criminals.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2013/08/27/newday-sot-shoppers-surprise-closed-store.cnn
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@ Sharina: On the Aspire channel there is a talk show called Exhale. With Rene Syler, Issa Raye, Angela Burt-Murray, Malinda Williams. I thought that had more substance. They address important topics that offer solutions to the problems in our community and self help topics for personal growth.
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@resw77, abagond, and mary burrell
Thank you for the book recommendations.
I need to add to my library.
@misstoogood4yall
Yeah, I got the sarah baartman vibe too from Miley slapping that woman’s rear.
I think I read it here, or somewhere else, but I’m going to repeat it. I feel a lot of white artists, musicians, singers, writers feel that everything is up for grabs.
I wish more black artists would feel this way as well.
I run in a lot of circles with other writers. I am told many times that my characters aren’t universal enough (read=white) to appeal to the masses by agents. Yet, whites write stories about ‘the black struggle’, have black protagonists, and make money. In the mean time, they are seen as forward-thinking and innovative for doing what black authors have done for years. And where does the money from these books go? Back into the white community, leaving the ‘poor black community’ those writers wrote about and ‘cared so much for’ basically in the same condition.
I have written stories with white main characters. It isn’t much different and that is what kills me about this. A black face on your cover can really hurt sales, and that is even if it is merely descriptive (meaning the only thing ‘black’ about the book is the main character). You could have two basically identical books and one fails because of skin color. Or if your black main character isn’t a stereotype, your work isn’t ‘realistic’.
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I wonder what Paula Patton thought of that performance her hubby put on with Miley Cyrus?
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Honestly I liked The Real, I was just happy there was a diversity(Asian, hispanic, black) and interesting topics for the “younger” people. lol no offense.
The View is good, but people want women that represent them and relate to them, not talk about serious issues all the dang time with nothing refreshing. that’s why they’re booting all the women out b/c they know their time is up, especially with the ratings compared to The Real. The only criticism I will give The Real 1.Tamar girl, fix the attitude 2. Do start to talk about serious issues a little bit, but still in all I love the positive energy the ladies were giving me. So I do hope for another continuation.
Also to the other comments, TY for the VMA’s opinion honestly I felt like hip-hop/R&B was basically white washed, no person of color won. The only person that got something was Bruno Mars (Yay, congratz) Besides that. everything was played out and rigged. You know how the young stans are. I did not care for Macklemore, he was rude and his partner was too for not giving the background artists a lil speech for the involvement in their songs. The only really reason Macklemore was getting so much “luv” was for his views on LGBT. that’s it honestly. He hasn’t said anything for me to be considered “groundbreaking”. Miley……LMAO. You already know. Honestly the whole world is not here for her, the humping of the foam finger, awkward dancing and endless confusion was enough for me. Pretty much it was boring and typical. Also I’m mad as heck at my dude Pharrell for not performing (WTF?! Man, how you gonna put on that nice suit with Daft Punk and not perform?) But still, endless applause to the Smith family for their reaction and Miss Rihanna for her beautiful side eye. lol
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Also, I will chime in that yes this blog is starting to get that “feeling” if you know what I mean. I understand what Abagond is doing,(I agree what he is saying) but I don’t want another good blog going to waste and disappearing into oblivion for annoying derailers/trolls. I want everyone to stay on track and continue to remain here. (Seriously guys, do not leave. This is my fav #2 blog) I really love the openness and freedom from the commenters and I would hate to lost it again *frown*
On further news, I hope everyone at least got to hear Biden talk about his opinion on Syria. Keep safe family and be alert.
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@Lonely Voice
Wow, I didn’t know that about Miss Miley, but it was obvious she is a trendsetter trying to get “cool” points. *folds arms and gives side eye*
I know ho w it is. I’m hearing plenty of black artist complaining about the same thing. It gets me so mad, that creativity is OVER analyzed for us while the other counterparts always get hit with opportunities to little to no efforts. Please don’t be discouraged. I always told myself when I get my money right and have the time, I will be searching online for black owned businesses online and look for fellow underrated artists, especially to support. Hopefully, I don’t sound like I’m giving pity, but it really touches me to see other fellow black artist out there,(Since I’m one, even though I haven’t drawn in a min. lol) Atleast with support, hopefully others won’t be discouraged and spread more awareness.
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@sondis
that is great, I bet they thought those brothas were gonna loot the place. And they had the exact change, rofl if that was me I would’ve accidentally short changed them or put too much.
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@ lonely voice
That is messed up. what kind of books do u write? I don’t really see too many black books in stores, the ones that do get a lot of attention are the ones dealing with stereotypes and abuse.
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@ mary
I wonder what she thinks too, his arse is probably in the dog house lol. I just think it was weird, a grown married man grinding on a crazy looking young woman. Am I the only one that notice when white females try to be like us they go and shave their hair off, like wtf. I wonder if Brittany spears gave her that haircut.
@ drosera
what is ur fave number one blog then, lol yes i’m being nosy, the trolls are taking over this blog and my other fave blog that doesn’t allow trolls is shutting down. I did not watch the vmas and don’t know who won, but I do like Bruno mars a bit so good for him. Man the black artists might as well not waste their time going to these events if they not gonna win anything. I do feel like kanye when he said but beyonce had the best vid of all time rofl. I do feel the black artists are more talented but the white artists get awards for their copying. They would rather give awards and attention to a watered down white artist that is a 6 on the talent scale vs a black artists that is a 8 or 10 on the talent scale. That is white supremacy for ya. There are good black artists on youtube that we don’t see at these award shows and they are way better then the ones on the radio. I have a feeling all the black artists will be reduced to is training white artists into mastering and copying their style and giving them the black seal of approval. music imo is dead here.
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Oh I forgot to mention did anyone see for colored boys?
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@ Drosera
That was my first impression of it. Sadly most of the women on the panel I just don’t like too much minus Loni and Jeanie (I hope I spelled it right).
As to the recent psycho troll news….I really feel that if it was about a difference in opinion and such then why not Randy, Da Jokah, or one of the other regulars who disagree with him?
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I found this an interesting read. http://anti-troll.org/
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mstoogood4yall
@sondis
that is great, I bet they thought those brothas were gonna loot the place. And they had the exact change, rofl if that was me I would’ve accidentally short changed them or put too much.
Notice how you were the only person to comment on that video of the black men that paid for items in that store, when it was closed an could have stolen everything.
I bet if they actually stole something, it would have gotten more comments, then.
I wasn’t surprised that nobody besides you on this blog was interested in black men, being upstanding citizens.
Lets try again, shall we?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2013/08/27/newday-sot-shoppers-surprise-closed-store.cnn
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“I bet if they actually stole something, it would have gotten more comments, then.”—Someone said the same thing on the comments about black male graduating at 17. Was that you Sondis?
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@ Sondis
Goes to show that those stereotypes are not always true. I was smiling the whole video. Although highly disappointed that the trainwreck of miley cyrus and Robin Thicke played immediately after. 😦
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interesting, my wifi link went down just as i was gonna post this, ish gets erased on me all the time, let me tell you something.
so anyway i see i’ts about a new balfour, fries with that…
Thomas Conlon the un inspectors cant even operate in the cities it is bad, dude
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Thomas Conlon its rough too cuz ru talking tough and we not gonna out spesnatz or something, sheesh what you brits say a sticky wicket then
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Thomas Conlon ridiculous
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Thomas Conlon i am a born in the united states american and i feel this is adventurism and complete bullshit, that’s for the record, assad should be dealt with for shelling his citizens etc not ‘oh gee it’s some 2 month old allegation of wmd’ that’s packaged for the media as if 2 days ago was the first time
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if you look at that map saudia arabia is the only one left
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Bulanik said:
xPraetorius:
I read this, and while sincerely feeling sorry for Bulanik, I must have laughed for 15 minutes!
Apparently mind reading and clairvoyancy and other magical characteristics are absolutely rampant around here!
If this makes it past the censors, I guess my work here will be nearly done.
Best,
— x
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@ sharina
anti troll lol, that would be great to have, but I do wonder what they’d do to the trolls, fine them? And then what about false accusations? Then ppl would have to be very careful what they type as it will be used against u. I don’t troll, but I would have to wonder if this became a law if it will be abused and ppl that just say something like I can’t stand this person, if they could be accused of being a troll l or harassing someone. I see how some ppl are like oh they offended me, then those ppl could try to say this person is a troll. what I;m saying is what if we are talking about black issues and somebody says omg they are harassing white ppl. i’m just saying because I read an article about a black family that got kicked out of a restaurant just because one white person said they felt threatened. the black ppl were just waiting in line minding their own business for 2 hours, then the manager kicked them out. http://www.xojane.com/issues/mike-brown-wild-wing-cafe
so what if they use this law to get us to be quiet and they abuse it and go after ppl that are not trolls but are just speaking their mind and not doing so in a disrespectful way.
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“sharina
“I bet if they actually stole something, it would have gotten more comments, then.”—Someone said the same thing on the comments about black male graduating at 17. Was that you Sondis?”
No, that wasn’t me.
Yeah, i smiled throughout the video, too. ^_^
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@ Mstoogood4yall
I can see where it would be abused.
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dang sondis I just now saw the vid of that teacher being with those students and they tried to make her out to be the victim smh. reminds me of another story where a white female college professor had a train ran on her by black students and her military husband stood by her smh. Its crazy how she was acting like she was the victim, like oh no they filmed me without permission im a victim not them. I know they were 18 but dang, she’s still in a powerful position. imo that is the same as a cop having sex with somebody he arrested In the past, idc if it is consensual its still that person having some status or power over somebody else. I love how her lawyer was acting like she is the victim like oh this poor white woman she was taken advantage of by some mandingos, they knew she was vulnerable, and her husband was gone. This is why if I have kids they will not be around these predators, they view black kids as grown anyway so if they do some sheit like this they are always going to be looked at as the victim. Even the dam female students were like I feel sorry for her, really, I feel sorry for yall arse to be acting like only females can be raped or taken advantage of. If it was some female they would be like oh the teacher took advantage of her and she was a student he abused his power, even if they legal. he an adult she a child, cuz we know whites are looked at as innocent kids even when they not.
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rofl, that is funny the troll was off topic on an off topic thread, # majorfail. dang u know u losing when u mess up being off topic. never in my life have I seen such a thing. Dang this a new record, I mean churchs ain’t even go off topic on open thread, then again I don’t think he came on open thread.
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@ sharina
as for the black business stuff, yes investing in black business is a must. We have to get away from buying from others even though a lot of times their stuff is cheaper. And some have to get away from being jealous of successful black ppl. I don’t have all the answers i’m still figuring this stuff out but what we can do is work on our anti blackness first. Then we can come together and put our money and experience together to do something. At some point I’d like to see us saving money as a whole and using that money to buy land and start businesses one at a time. The issues are ppl not supporting black businesses and not enough are starting black businesses. If we take the money we get from working for whites and buy black that is a win for us, but if we use the money we get from whites and buy white, arab, Asian,etc, that is a loss for us.
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@mstoogood4yall
I agree. It is a hard task and the hardest part is getting other black people to see it. If I can find a black clothing company that is not attacked to a celebrities over priced clothing then I see myself as set (in one area anyway).
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@ mstoogood4yall
“yes that is right too, to do that we gotta work on building trust as we have been conditioned to not trust each other so some won’t support black businesses. what post was that comment on Trojan pams.” —Here is the comment http://racismws.com/2013/08/22/counter-racism-economics-stop-1-stop-spending-your-money-where-you-are-not-respected/comment-page-1/#comment-12648
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that would be nice to have black ppl make clothes, it’s crazy that black parents stopped teaching their kids skills such as sewing,carpentry, baking, hair braiding,gardening,etc. my brothers grandmother knows how to sew and she bakes some good cake too, i wish i had a relationship with her then i would love to learn those things. my grandmother knows how to garden i’ll have to ask her to teach me. its good to learn as much life skills as possible to lessen our dependence on whites.
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@ mstoogood4yall
My grandfather taught me to garden. We lived on a farm when I was young so I have the ability to do those things, but like most blacks I got the mind set of…..this is just easier. This store is just closer….etc. Now as I reconnect with my roots I realize that what is easier is not worth it and it has cost the black community a lot with that line of thinking.
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Also I think it is that fear that if we become too independent then we will see another situation like rosewood.
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@ sharina
my grandmother told me she grew up on a farm as well with a creek out back, i think that is a wonderful way to grow up. And yes another rosewood thing happening is in the back of our minds. But at the same time if we don’t move forward and try again we will lose and get left behind, as our labor is already being replaced. So imo if we put that money into black businesses and have black businesses that can employ us when/ if whites get tired and say no we are not dealing with them anymore we have something to fall back on.
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wtf happened to my comment? anyway let me try again. i think what happened to black wall street will forever be in our minds, but if we just focus on what could potentially be destroyed again we will remain in fear, and the situation we are in now will continue. If we have more black businesses and support the ones we do have, when/ if whites get tired and say we are not going to employ them anymore, we have something to fall back on. I would hope those black businesses we invest in will have our back and hire us when/if whites start firing us.
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my grandmother grew up in the country and she told me how they had a creek and a field to play in, i think that is a nice way to live and a good place for growing up.
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@ mstoogood4yall
Very true. I sometimes wonder what the excuse will be when blacks become independent of them. While it is not a landslide, I have noticed more blacks waking up. Which is always good.
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i’m thinking of having a giveway and buy things from a black business or two and give it to somebody, i may call it labor day giveaway lol. i’ll be oprah for black ppl.
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yes more are waking up and the weird thing is it seems we are starting to be on the same page. its weird that Trojan pam talked about anti blackness on the radio then truthbetold did a post about anti blackness, and a youtuber i watch sometimes was talking about anti blackness all in the same week.
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You gave me an idea. Buy black business this Christmas. I think that would be a heck of a start to expose it to my relatives that may not buy black.
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Thank you!!!
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Pardon my butting in…
mstoogood4yall said:
That’s all kids need. Adults don’t need a whole lot more – we just swallow a ton of advertising then we head straight for the mall.![:/](https://s0.wp.com/wp-content/mu-plugins/wpcom-smileys/uneasy.svg)
Sorry to interrupt.
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that is great ms. sharina i was thinking of doing an online giveaway for my cyber fam lol.
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@ buddhuu
rofl, that is true. its the adults fault lol, i remember being a kid and being happy over a dam cardboard box smh. i would build forts out of it and i love the foam and bubble wrap. yes simple times.
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@ Buddhuu
Feel free to butt right on in. I agree. It is the parents and this idea of my kid must have. My kids are more interested in arts and crafts, cooking, and a few things on tv. Generally they don’t really play with their toys. They are content playing pretend with just about anything.
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Here’s another nice story for everyone. An 11 to study physics at TCU.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/28/carson-huey-you_n_3829949.html
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@Anne
Thank you! Always good to hear the positive.
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I love that movie the Watermelon Man, I wish that scenario in that movie would happen to all the racist trolls who come on blogs that have these types of discussions. That would be the karma they deserve.
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wow thanks for posting Anne.
at age 5 he was in high school, just wow. and then their other child is smart too.
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@ mary
remember how u wanted to know what paula patton thought about robin and miley’s performance, well here ya go
.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/27/paula-patton-miley-cyrus-twerking_n_3822320.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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@mstoogood4yall: That Miley Cyrus stuff is just crazy, she needs to go away now. Yeah, Paula Patton was cool with this stuff, But his mother not so much. Moving on.
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I heard about the 11year old going to college. That is most excellent. Love that.
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@ Abagond
I am sorry for freaking out but at this point I really don’t know the mentality of that type of individual. I don’t mind him responding to things I actually say to him, but his little obsession with me is really going off the wall. I just feel uncomfortable and when I am uncomfortable I become defensive. So sorry.
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@ Sharina
I told X not to address you – but you both were apparently writing comments just when I wrote that. They are both in moderation.
1. Do you want me to let them through?
2. Do you want me to forbid X to address you or talk about YOU (as opposed to your opinions)? Note that that would mean YOU could not address him or talk about him (though you can still talk about his opinions).
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@ Abagond
You can just delete mine as I am tired of defending myself against every single lie he tells about me.
I would like it if you did, but I am not holding out much hope that he will stop. I mean I asked him kindly and things are just progressing. It is better that I unsubscribe to that post and no longer comment. Thanks though. 🙂
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Okay. Here’s more nice stuff. Teenager upsets 5th ranked women’s tennis player to advance at US Open. http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/us-open-victoria-duval-upsets-samantha-stosur-as-sara-errani-caroline-wozniacki-advance-082713?ocid=ansfox11
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@ Anne
I would expect every commenter to be an adult (this is my flaw or mistake). Even the trolls I expect some level of adulthood and some decency to agree to disagree or whatever. It boggles my mind that someone does not get that. It completely blows me away when you ask a person to leave you alone that the response it to continue. Over and Over and Over again. I just don’t get that.
If someone is on the level then I truly think mentally unstable.
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she’s almost ready to let me talk about her it’s rough but i am going to get to see her natural hair when she takes her braids out i can’t wait but she wants microbraids that ish is expensive
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@sharina, I would expect the same but the thing I have noticed about blogs like these is that the trolls tend to be of a specific variety. They come here with the sole purpose of making what they assume to be predominantly black commenters look like fools. That is why it only takes one minor objection to their ideas to get a rude response from them. They already made up their mind that they think you’re stupid they just want to confirm it to themselves. Your buddy x has already exposed that prejudice in the way he tends to compliment the commenters he knows are white but deride the ones he believes to be black. I think his attraction to you was that you paid attention to him. Dealing with that type requires a thick skin. Regardless, I am glad to see some new posts to read other than that one. I still check it out for curiosity’s sake but the newer ones are more interesting.
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@mstoogood4yall
I had to share this as I think there is a big movement (perhaps in secret) among black people. My neighbors always hired white or Hispanic landscapers to do their lawn. As Of this week I have seen black landscapers doing their lawns.
Back to black
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Agabond, xPraetorius means former mayor. Do you know who the person really is? Was this whole thing deliberate?
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@ Anne
I have no idea who he truly is. It could be some kind of stunt on his part.
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Well it would fit the stuff he said in his last few posts. Put them together, ex mayor, you don’t have me to kick around, gubernatorial race, and on the east coast. Sounds like someone who is running for govenor. Pallandino?
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what in the world did I miss, oh so the troll is a politician?, wtf weiner is that u, first u take pics of ur wee now u on here trolling. smh lol
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@ sharina
that Is great they hired black landscapers. So u have a stalker now, smh, idk why he keeps typing to ppl that are talking to someone else. He did that to me several times, when I was talking to somebody else, it’s some nosy ,butting in mofos I can’t stand. I have a hard time keeping up with who this person is. one minute they a black woman , the next they a white man, now they a politician, hmm he must be a….http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs47/i/2009/187/0/a/Transformers_2_Decepticons_by_CrossDominatriX5.png
decepticon.
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praetor is more like a colonial goverrnor from the roman empire days or a field general, pretentious is more like it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praetor
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@ v8driver
LMAO! xPretentious! But please, no one use that. I will delete any comment that calls him that since it is not a legitimate form of his name. You are allowed to shorten names, not add to or alter them. So X, xP, xPra, etc. are fine.
@ Sharina
Deleting the comment where you talk about xP. You two are not allowed to talk about each other.
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V8, oops. You’re right. I thought I had a lead to something’s interesting.
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This week’s episode of white privilege:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/08/29/montana-judge-newday-interview-hanlon.cnn
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2013/08/29/exp-early-lah-montana-teacher-rape.cnn
37 year old, white teacher, rapes a 14 year old, that killed herself as a result of the rape, 3 years later at the age of 17, gets 30 days in jail!
It’s good to be white in America!
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@Sondis
Thanks for sharing. I think it is disgusting that these people get a slap on a wrist for taking advantage of the youth. Yet white community does not care to fix this common type of happening. Just whine about blacks.
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Sharina,
You will see very little or next to no comments about white men like this, in schools where they pray on children, all across the country.
They rather talk about black people, because we are the scapegoat of America’s society.
The white media is making a spectacle of the 2 black boy that shot the Australian man and leaving the white boy that assistant them, out of the headlines.
They are also making a spectacle out of those 3 black teenagers, that beat a white boy on a bus, that snitched on them for offering to sell him drugs.
what happened to James homes? he came and went from the white media so quick and so fast!
What happen to the 18 year old white boy that i posted an article on my last episode of white privilege, that got into a fight with 5-6 police officers and pulled a gun out of one of the police officers holster and fired off a shot in the wall and lived to see another day?
I haven’t heard about any charges pending against him in the white media!
It must be great to be white in America!
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Here’s another case of the missing white women, syndrome.
A black teen is missing for over a month, very little is being done to find the black teenager.
They found a suv that match the description but let the driver go.
Yeah, it seems like they are really taking the missing of a black teenage girl, very seriously. ( sarcasm )
No amber alert was ever issued at any point in time.
Had this teenager been white ( Hannah Anderson ) her name and face would be plastered all over the news, across the country like this blonde haired, blue eyed, white girl.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/17/us/virginia-alexis-murphy-disappearance/index.html
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Oh and don’t you just love when they yell about how the media does not cover black crime and just covers it up. LOL
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Anne said:
xPraetorius:
Nope. It was all just a big misunderstanding! I took this for a serious blog. I see I was mistaken. 🙂
Best,
— x
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@abagond im glad youre finally talking to me im just getting better at concealing my roughneck ways anyway
You are the one that made it into his name. This all does not make me want to read his blog at all
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@ sondis
Both of those cases are crazy. That man deserved prison time and f that judge for saying oh that child looks older than she was. This teacher more than likely knew how old she was. Some of these judges need to retire, they old and getting delusional, I wouldn’t be surprised if the judge did something, and that is why he trying to defend this pervs actions.
The missing teen, I think that crazy looking man killed her, then he blamed it on a black guy smh. oh a black male came and picked her up he had cornrows and big rims, yeah ok sure. They sure don’t report on black and ppl of color missing and they take all dam day to get an alert out. white kid goes missing and its an alert out the same day. it was a show on tv one called find our missing, but I don’t see it coming on anymore. The only way I really hear about missing black youth is looking on tumblr or facebook. I used to think black kids didn’t get abducted as much, but now I see they do, its just the news doesn’t report on it when they do go missing.
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A cute picture for Michael Jackson’s birthday: http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/14500000/Michael-Jackson-Baby-michael-jackson-the-child-14598893-252-306.jpg
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@ Paige: Thanx for that. It’s giving me life. Happy Birthday, MJ. Miss You.
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Aw, Michael Jackson was a cute baby and a handsome young man. happy b day to the king.
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Dang I forgot Aaliyah, she passed on the 25, ppl were talking about they noticed mtv and bet did not say anything about her this year.
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@ Abagond,
In the light of @xP’s now self proclaimed exile and your official explicit ban enforcement. Something which we all knew, on both sides sooner or later, was going to happen. I would like to offer up a suggestion:
You may already have something like this in mind but I’ll put it out there all the same…
My suggestion is this: That at some point you do a post on @xP’s thread with a title like – @xP Troll Extraordinare: What did we learn?
Basically something like an epitaph, a final resting place. A place which would allow closure and bring out a more:
“open and honest” discussion on how many of us now feel about having been subjected to (without prior consent or knowledge) a consciously orchestrated and premeditated social experiment…
Some type of response like this I think needs to be addressed before the next Troll emerges with the idea of doing something x10 what @xP did on your blog….
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Abagond, I would like you to do write something about the wonderful discussion around the Twitter hashtag #solidarityisforwhitewomen. It basically examines the hypocrisy of middle class white women who claim to be feminists, in their dealings with black women. Most of it is just plain ignorance of the issues of women of colour.
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Abagond, I would like you to do write something about the biased, vile , hateful discussion around the Twitter hashtag #blackpowerisforblackmen. Its basically a bunch of self-hating black women bashing black men for things that the average black man is in no position to effect. It paints black men as perverts, rapists who are ignorant of black female issues. I would also like you to focus on the fact that a lot of these people are self hating black men , who are mere eunuchs who have no chance of getting any vagina.
Its the typical n!gg@s aint 5h!t tripe.
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I have an announcement to make.
I did the big chop today after 6 months of transitioning, it feels so liberating. #teamnatural (blackfist in air) rofl. http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=black+fist+olympics&FORM=HDRSC2#view=detail&id=3AACBDE520183A543F05369949BB94CFC0F9EAAF&selectedIndex=3
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Congrats! Mstoogood4yall
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@Mstoogood4yall: Kudos, I sure you look beautiful.
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Thanks sistas
It is going to take some getting used to lol, now I can’t stop touching my hair. I can’t wait for it to grow and have amazing styles like this http://thirstyroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/158393_Cris_Cros_Rows__Twists_jpg4c9a4701f997badcb71e1b46a3b4c827.jpg
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Congratulations, Mstoogood4yall! I think natural hair will be the perfect frame for a face as sweet and youthful as yours!
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^ aw thanks, I just can’t wait for it to grow my head is big rofl. It will be fun to see the rest of my families reaction bahah. My dad is lookin and like oh well it will grow back and I said yea I know u seem be the one more worried about it than me lol.
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Abagond,
as a light-hearted and positive thread about Africa, can there be an “African Royalty” post
The royal prince of Lagos, Prince Mustapha Oniru of Lago (Nigeria) got married this month… the American media very Rarely ever talks about African or Asian royalty but we hear lots about British royalty… I’m not even sure if people know that Royalty still exists in Africa.
“Royal wedding: Nigerian prince marries in Loughgall village” (Ireland, where bride is from)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-23725510
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idk why people are going on about mortgage rates under joshua soloman but i know sondis has brought it up a lot … the whole banking system is a scam i mean ok i have bad credit so you charge me like 12% to refi plus take 30k out of the equity? you have the house as collateral that should de facto mitigate any risk especially if you require homeowners insurance and build it into the payment, and now all these carmakers want to just lease these cars, its like they dont even want you to have the damn car
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@ Linda
I will admit that I did not even know. Thanks for sharing and hopefully we will see a post on it.
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@v8driver
That is why we try to avoid dealers. They just want your money for as long as they can get it.
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@ Linda: Thanx, for sharing this. But you know the mainstream media being what it is, doesn’t care about royalty from Africa. If it’s not about THE royals of London, then you will get the crickets soundtrack on the African royals.
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i’m trying to scratch up 3 grand to buy this place it’s totally gutted and stuff but it’s a house
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“cough” “cough” @ : o l ) >
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@ Linda & Sharina: When they described the entourage that comes to vist the bride’s village to meet her family, this kind of reminds me of “Coming To America”. Well, you know what good for them. I hope they are happy. It’s a nice love story. But you know someone is going to have an issue with this. But I can sincerely say it’s a nice story. The Prince is quite handsome.
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Mary, Sharina
Notice this was in the British papers–“World News” is a joke in American press –
There are more African monarchy’s that are still in tact.
I’m not sure how Abagond does his guest posts, but I will try to find more and post info on them.
I know the positive and feel good posts don’t get as much comments as the black vs white posts, but it still good info to know.
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what are u coughing for sondis,
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@ Linda: We do need to talk about something other than race stuff. It would be a breath of fresh air, or something that didn’t have to do with race politics.
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@ Sondis: Hey, sondis. How are you? Good to see you.
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Hello Mary,
I’m alright, good to see you too. ^_^
mstoogood4yall:
I was just trying to get some attention is all. @ : o O ) >
Hello Sharina and Linda! @ : o D ) >
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It’s a hot day in Paradise, Sondis 🙂
heading to the beach in a little while.
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LInda:
You haven’t invited a brotha to the Luau! @ > : o O ) >
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@ Linda: The beach, I love the beach. When I was in Jamaica, I fell in love with the beach. Cool summer clothes, flip flops and a fun, big sun hat with a wide brim and cute sun glasses, and something cool to drink with a splash of rum. Good times.
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@ mary burrell
I thought the same thing with the way the mother was dressed.
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@ Linda
After this last fiasco I think it would be good to do a positive post. I think we should do more on the accomplishments of black and brown society. I am just tired of hear the racist realist crowd talk about what blacks are not doing or have not accomplished.
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@ Sondis
Hey! 🙂
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oh yes the beach, I love the beach but I wouldn’t want to live by the ocean lol. Oh mary u went to Jamaica how was it? my aunt is planning on going there next year. Were there some fine men, did u get ur groove back rofl.
Sondis
o so u cough for attention ……oook. here sondis can u hold this sign (will cough for attention) I wanna go to the laua too, I have dibs on the firedancer *faints*
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Check this out
http://shine.yahoo.com/everyday-food/dunkin-donuts-under-fire-for-racist-ad-in-thailand–issues-apology-162415727.html
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Check this out:
http://shine.yahoo.com/everyday-food/dunkin-donuts-under-fire-for-racist-ad-in-thailand–issues-apology-162415727.html
They are once again yelling jesse and all, but I have not heard them comment on this issue not once. These people just can’t own up to their racism.
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Al*
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@mstoogood4yall: Ocho Rios, I went with friends, We went to all inclusive resort. We did touristy things. I ate good food and went to see all the tourist attractions. I want to see all the Carribean islands and I want to travel more. There is a website I was looking at a black women’s travel site. Traveling cost money, and lacks of funds prevents me right now. But I am going to make a bucket list of places I want to see.
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Oh wow, here we go with the black face business again. Dunkin doughnuts.
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@ Linda
Oh that would be a great reoccurring thread here on Abagond. I’m tried of the royal family of London. I get it USA is like the offspring of England, but still I don’t care about their lives. Now learning about other cultures royalty would be a nice change of pace.
I recently learned about King Mansa Musa I
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/king-mansa-musa-named-richest-history-article-1.1186261
*Hmm, I wonder why I never heard about him in my world history class. End of sarcasm*
Enjoy the beach, we were just there enjoying the Atlantic ocean by way of Myrtle Beach. So therapeutic to just unwind, listen to the waves and breath.
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@ Sharina: There is the little 4 year old from New Orleans who got inducted into MENSA, there is the 11year old prodigy got into TCU. Carson Huey Young, that name even sounds like brilliance. And 17 year old James Martin, on his way to obtaining his PHD. So all this hooey about what blacks can’t accomplish is just that hooey. But sadly, many black kids don’t have parents investing in them. These kid’s parents were with them from the time they were little, just like you are with your babies. I know we will never hear about the black youths that are thriving and flourishing and not in some tragic dysfunction.
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Sondis,
can’t bring you to the party, but I can try to bring the party to you. Here you go, amigo:
http://36-24-36.tumblr.com/post/816075966/dbltke-sintra-arunte-bronte
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Will do, Lifelearner — will enjoy and sip a few for all 🙂
and Ladies, Jamaica is really known for our women… if you find our men attractive, Glad someone else does besides us mothers!
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I want to read the Malcolm x biography but idk which one the alex haley one or the one by Manning marable. Which one have any of u read
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@ mstoogood4yall: I enjoyed the Alex Haley one. I remember my supervisor saying she read it and it made her angy and she threw it in the trash. I think I read somewhere the Manning one tried to allude to him being a homosexual, I knew I would not read that. Go with the Alex Haley one.
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^angry^
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oh ok thanks ms mary, I will get it sometime next month, I can’t believe its September tomorrow and truth will not blog anymore.
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Yes, that’s sad. But everything has a season. I am so pleased to have found her blog, she taught me many things. But you can still purchase her wonderful soaps. She has one Grandma’s creamy lard, that is excellent, smells like cookies. It’s very nice check it out. I will continue to support her business. Look on soap muffin, she moved from etsy.
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@mstoogood4yall: I have to rethink about not reading Manning Marable’s book. I may read that one myself, as well. Maybe you should check them out both. Now that you bought it up, I think I will read Marable’s book as well.
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@ Sharina,
I was discussing with Abagond something along those lines and after seeing a lot of trek references on this blog I suggested something along the lines of doing a thread on Star Trek and how it was the forefront with it’s ideas on racial equality. Abagond suggested a thread about Nichelle Nichols, the actress who played Uhura.
I think this would be a great subject for a thread, I am not sure if Abagond is waiting for me to start the ball rolling or if it is in the pipeline.
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@ mary burrell
That is very true. The lies and stereotypes have to keep going in order for them to hold on to white ideals.
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@ mstoogood4yall: Another book “When Chickenheads Come To Roost” Joan Morgan. You need to check out the movie Drop Squad that would make you LOL. And the film by Mario Van Peebles dad, “The Watermelon Man” it real old school, but since we were on the thread about the white guy taking the pills to become black, this is fun and thought provoking. Another book, I think you would like is “Still Brave The evolution of black women’s studies, Stanlie M. James, Frances Smith Foster & Beverly Guy -Sheftall. I read that Abagond needed to read this so he could get over his sexism issues. I received my copy and I am enjoying some of the essays. You will enjoy this book little sister.
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@mstoogood4yall: Melvin Van Peebles directed this movie, it’s a fun throw back film.
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@mstoogood4yall; Check out Good Fences, Spike Lee directed this one. It’s crazy. But I enjoyed this.
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@ Gio
Deleted two of your test posts per your request.
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@ mstoogood4yall: My mistake Ernest R. Dickerson directed Good Fences, not Spike Lee, But I would like to see Spike Lee’s “When The Leeve Broke and memory of the 1963 March on Washington, “4 Little Girls”. Check em all out. Tell me what you think about them. They all talk about the stuff we discuss on the threads.
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Why is my comment in moderation?
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Mary Burrel:
Why your comment’s in moderation?
It’s because you’ve been a naughty naughty girl….I’ma bend you over my knee and give you a proper spankin! @ : o O ) >
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@ sondis; LOL! But I don’t know why my comment is moderation, I didn’t say anything bad, I didn’t curse or use inflammatory language.
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hmm..perhaps abagond, moderated your comment in anticipation for future comment policy, violations. @ : o x ) >
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@v8driver: Good luck with your house renovation, hope you can find the money.
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@ sondis, my comment went through.
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Mary burrel:
Woo Hoo! Let the good times role!
*sings….. celebrate good times, come on! Lets celebrate!
*throws confetti
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@ sondis: LOL!
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@ mary
Thanks, I read an excert for both the biography by alex haley and by Manning, I think both are great, the little I did read the one by alex haley seems more like a story it felt like I was reading a regular book and not a history book lol. The first little part of chapter one by manning was good as well he talked about other during that time and their organizations I like that as well. I will get buy one and later read the other one.
This title made made me lol .When Chickenheads Come To Roost
this sounds like an interesting read rofl. I will try to watch those movies online thanks.
I will continue to buy her soaps as well, and I see she has an eczema cream I will try that next. I was thinking of doing a soap giveaway on my blog with truths soaps. I will miss her informational posts.
Sondis u crazy lmbao.
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Sondis u and peanut have so much thirst an ocean wouldn’t be able to quench it rofl.
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she said her microbraids hurt her scalp but its what she wanted i told her go show the world how good my girl looks
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@ Gio
That sounds interesting. You know you could do a guest post if you are interested.
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3k to buy the house… no financing available
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https://www.change.org/petitions/ohio-parole-board-and-governor-kasich-free-tyra-patterson#share
People, please sign petition. ^_^
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@ Drosera
One of your comments got stuck in the spam filter, I believe, and I deleted it by accident. My apologies. You can resubmit the comment if you wish.
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@ Sondis
signed it
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but thanks miss mary b!
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Sharina:
That’s my girl ^_^
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@ sondis: I signed the petition.
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Mary burrell:
Thanks friend ^_^
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@sondis
Thanks for recommending that petition; I signed it also.
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Don’t mean to derail the current discussion, but I wanted to share somethng I just saw shared on the Occupy London Facebook page.
Powerful, IMO.
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@ Buddhuu: Thanks for sharing that, It was powerful. I always enjoy you on these threads.
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lol
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http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2013/09/03/exp-erin-n-word-panel.cnn.html
I have to agree with Dr. Lamont hill, i am a firm believer in the N word, being used in context, when used amongst black people.
The black woman, opposite Lamont hill is white washed and white identified.
Black people in America, have been made to feel, ashamed and guilty of using the N word in our everyday vernacular, it has more to do with white guilt than anything else.
White people don’t like to be reminded of what their ancestors did in the past and also what some white people still do today.
That is why they pretend to hate the N word so much, which isn’t really hate for the word itself, its more of a hate for having a guilty conscious, whenever that word is spoken out loud, within ear shot of black people, they instantly turn red and want to get out of that situation as quick as possible. Some white women even cry and white men just ignore it like it wasn’t even said.
White people also like to keep on pretending and projecting a society where, racism doesn’t exist, color doesn’t exist, so when black people point out racist, color or even speak of a word that white people coined, to dehumanize an entire race of people, they are appalled!
White supremacy has took its toll in this case also, where even black people, can’t feel comfortable in calling one another, a word that they claimed and changed its context as a term of endearment and poetry.
The N word is a double edge sword, it can be used to greet a fellow brotha and make one laugh or cut black people down, even by other black people as in this particular case. despite the complications over this sometimes derogatory word and term of endearment, it has a very complex dynamic.
The only reason why this black woman is against, black people using the N word, is because white people are ( in public but in private or when their angry at a black person, it could be a different story ).
She is no different than most black people in America, we are so darn white washed and programmed via white supremacy, black people are not even allowed to call ourselves, whatever we want, without being made to feel shamed by white people.
This is the same way, racial stereotypes work, white people put a negative spin on things that black people are known to do, then its used against us.
expamples :
eating water melon,chicken ect.. Now, white people eat chicken and watermelon just as much if not more than black people but its a negative, racial stereotype when black people eat those foods.
White people coined the N word, its was fine back them during slavery and Jim crow and even to this day by some white people but let black people say the N word but in a positive context or poetic fashion, via hip hop lyrics, its NEGATIVE by white people’s standards, despite black people, changing the meaning of the word. We just can’t win, either way!
What it comes down to for me is that i am done with white people, telling black people, what we call one another is acceptable or not.
I say the N word on occasion and i am proud of it, i can care less what a white person feels about me using that word, they didn’t care how black people felt when they used it to dehumanize black people during slavery, why should i care about their white guilt, when blacks say it today?
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Here is a nice story. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/03/jaylen-bledsoe_n_3860585.html
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Nice story.
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https://www.change.org/petitions/duval-public-schools-no-more-kkk-high-school#share Here is an injustice, that needs to be changed, white supremacy at its best. Please sign this petition, people.
“Paige
@sondis
Thanks for recommending that petition; I signed it also.”
You’re welcome, friend. ^_^
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@sondis
You’re welcome! I signed the second one too. That website is really cool. Did you sign the NAACP petition about Trayvon Martin?
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Paige
@sondis
You’re welcome! I signed the second one too. That website is really cool. Did you sign the NAACP petition about Trayvon Martin?
Yes, i did when it first was published. ^_^
Thanks again for supporting!
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I signed and sorry for late responses. I am sick. My sneeze fest has turned full blown cold.
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Sharina
I signed and sorry for late responses. I am sick. My sneeze fest has turned full blown cold.
Sharina:
Sorry to hear you have the sniffles. @ : o O ) > Drink lots of fluids, suck on zinc drops. You’ll be right as rain in no time. ^_^
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@ Sharina
I hope u feel better *gives cyber soup*.
The thing that works for me when I have a cold with congestion and a sore throat is either lemon and honey tea or a lemon honey halls cough drop melted in my green tea, it tastes great and soothes me for a while.
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dang when is it time for a new open thread,
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I used to get colds at least 3 times a year. After I started taking the herbal supplement echinacea years ago, 2 capsules 3x a day AT THE VERY FIRST SIGN OF A COLD, my colds will usually just peter out without going beyond the initial sniffles stage.
It is important to note that echinacea, AKA “purple coneflower”, a Native American herb studied by German researchers, doesn’t do much, if anything, after a cold is full blown. I use the extract form of the supplement.
Anyone with an allergy to ragweed.or an autoimmune disease should probably avoid echinacea.
Astragalus is said to be a good alternative to echinacea, but I have not found that to be the case (astragalus is consider to be a thermogenic and as such should not be used in the case of fever / high temperature).
I haven’t had a cold in at least 2 years . . . knock on wood!
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*considered…and, as such, should not be used in the case of fever / high temperature….
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@Abagond
Not so off topic. Some depraved white guy shot a 8 year old black kid in the face in Dallas, TX. I will let the story develop. Most likely he will do some sort of time.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/09/04/8-year-old-recovering-after-being-shot-in-face/
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They at it again smh, more reason to not let ur kids go to school, I mean wtf. They go there to learn but I guess if their hair is in dreads, braided, or afros, they are not allowed to learn. Since when does how someone wear their hair get in the way of learning, that shouldn’t be important. I’m getting he11a tired of hearing about stories like these. Black kids are not allowed to be themselves, they are not allowed to wear their hair the way they want yet u got white kids wearing goth stuff and dying their hair pink ,green, blue and having highlights. But a black child can’t have their hair the way god created it. Something really wrong with this country, then they wonder why kids are failing so much, gee idk maybe because u are too busy looking at hair, wardrobe, etc, http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/tulsa-girl-switches-schools-over-dreadlocks-181400766.html
Surprise surprise its Tulsa,ok so I guess destroying black wall street wasn’t enough now they gotta destroy any black creativity or heritage.
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@ Adonis
That guy is the definition of blonde haired, blue eyed devil. He is straight evil to shoot a child in the face, such a coward. When are these b@@a@@ Mo@S gonna stop hiding behind their guns. Oh wait that is all they do, they will not go man to man. dang what happened to just brass knuckles, now everybody wanna pull out a gun. I see these mof@ are getting bolder they wanna go around and shoot little kids and act tough. For once i’d like to see these cowards go against a black man without any weapons, and stop being cowards and killing the black man and black woman’s offspring because they can’t beat the black man. This is the same dumb ish they did during the Gullah war, going kill women and children because the male warriors out smarted them and whopped their as.
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I have a joke to tell, everyone. lets see if anyone guesses the joke.
What did the homeless black hobo, ask the homeless white hobo?
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Thanks mstoogood4yall and Fiamma for the advice. I have been feeling a bit better today, but just weak. I hate being sick.
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http://newsone.com/2711044/deborah-brown-community-school-dreadlocks/?omcamp=sf_N1TW
This is messed up.
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they took my gun and the judge told me do not get caught with one and i do so thanks to all the little people
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@ sondis
Idk, did he say hey homeless white hobo how much money did u get today?
@ Sharina
I know that is crazy I posted the link earlier I was so mad I had to do a post on it. It makes no sense ppl go to school to learn and something as simple as hairstyles makes them get into trouble. I mean dang if black kids are getting sent out of the classroom just for their hair imagine what other petty stuff they get sent out for.
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Mstoogood4yall: That is crazy, The guy confessed and said “Yeah, I shoot that kid”. They said since it was so hot that day, he was probably acting so bizarre from being in the heat. Always, an excuse. Crazy from the heat. The baby got shot on his birthday. I live in the city where this happened. Yeah, it hot as hell here, so this mofo, was crazy from the heat.
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“mstoogood4yall
@ sondis
Idk, did he say hey homeless white hobo how much money did u get today?”
The black homeless hobo asked the white homeless hobo, ” so what’s your excuse?” LMFAO!!
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@ mary
yes the heat must be their kryptonite, the sun relaxes me and makes me sleepy but I guess it has the opposite effect on them. I guess all truths and the other commenters mediating is working bahwhwaw. it’s getting hot in here ….
@ sondis
rofl, ok I wouldn’t have guessed that. now I got a question for u what did the homeless white hobo say to the black hobo?
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I did not know it was the childs birthday, wow. Can’t let kids outta ur sight nowadays. They probably gonna say the guy had a heat stroke and was delirious when he shot the child smh.
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@ mstoogood4yall: It’s heartbreaking the little girl getting put out of school for her hair. Poor baby, that video is heartbreaking, she is crying “They didn’t like my dreads” And the school is named after a black woman wearing a busted wig, go figure. I hope you saw that tacky looking wig she was wearing.
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@MsTooGood4Yall
I wanted to be sad too.
But this is a symptom of black men & women not putting our differences aside, and really focusing on getting permanent rights & protections in this country.
If we can do it for one reason, it is too protect our kids.
But that is not enough for alot of people
Good day
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@ ms mary
Rofl, I just looked up the school and the staff and these two I can’t let me sit down somewhere. http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=deborah_brown
And this woman http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=gwynn_grindstaff
Their motto is students today…. leaders tomorrow. rofl, yeah more like here today and gone tomorrow. students today and suspended tomorrow if u wear ur hair natural. smh. The crazy thing is this is a black school I could see if it was a white private school but a black school wow. or could it be a black school with white funding and whites making decisions, hmm I may have to dig deeper. to get to the root of this situation roflmbao.
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@ Adonis
Yeah I hear you. but sadly I see too many ppl that are selfish when it comes to kids. Got parents keeping the children from the other parent just because they mad, so I don’t hold too much hope for a great number to really push and do what is best for the children. Too many too busy trying to spite the other and the kid suffers. Someday all will have to be put on the table and confronted for us to move forward.
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dang I just watched the vid of the girl crying because of her hair it was sad. I wanna give her a hug and a bake her some cookies. It was great to see her dad there standing up for her, take that fools that say black men don’t take care of their kids. Then their other hair codes, stating that girls can’t wear weave longer than shoulder length, but I do wonder what if a child has long hair and it isn’t weave they’ll probably make sure it is real and look at the scalp smh.
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wow yellow light come up and her failings to some degree so difficult i love her
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This is horrible. Check this out.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/09/03/dallas-police-investigating-child-shot/
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Brothawolf
Was he shooting at someone else and the kid was hit by a stray? Or was the kid the intended victim? If it’s the former we need more details. If it’s the latter give him the chair.
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@ Brotha Wolf: This happened in my city. Seeing this baby with tubes all over his little body, and how this vermin just walked up to him and shot him, I am glade he is in jail. The child having facial reconstruction. Black boys/men in America, it’s open season.
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I am so glad little Tiana Parker is being showed so much love. I am glad her daddy, pulled her out of that stupid school. I wish more parents would pull their children out of that school, teaching the babies self hate, wow, that is just shameful in 2013. To say that your god given texture of your hair is unacceptable is messed up to say the least. Then Sheryl Underwood, did a minstrel, coon, act on that obnoxious talk show where Julie Chen and Les Moonves, like to see black people look foolish, she made some disparaging remarks about black hair. When will the ignorance end? Since there was such backlash to her ignorant statements, she has had to apologize, I am so tired of self hating slaves.
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Da Jokah,
It was unknown why that guy was there shooting at all, but I don’t think the little boy was the intended target.
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^
uhm
now what language is that, google translate don’t translate that I guess it don’t translate gibberish, but I can. uhum does that mean fk i’m annoyed or fk i’m bored or fk i’m frustrated.
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Fake charities in Africa.
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/sep/05/mission-congo-pat-robertson-aid-rwanda
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@ Anne
That is beyond sad.
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@Sharina,
Yes it is. I don’t know which is worse, the fact that a “Christian” man did that or that he chose to take advantage of the Rwandan genocide for his own profit.
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rat robber son I always have gotten the racist vibe from so no surprise, I recall a couple of years ago on his show they were talking about thanksgiving and were talking about food and the black woman said we eat mac n cheese and he said oh is that a black thing. I also remember when the earthquake happened in Haiti he said something about they made a pact with the devil and are cursed. smh he crazy. I don’t trust any preacher on tv, or most of the ones in person either. Of course he went there for the diamonds, lest we forget it was the good white Christians that enslaved our ancestors.
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@mstoogood4yall
I was not aware that was even the same guy. In that case what fools was giving that lunatic their money for his suppossed charity? Heck only a bunch of fools would after that mess he said about Haiti
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And then it was her turn.
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What is going on in Florida?
http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77290039/
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@Anne
I’m starting to think Florida just isn’t a good place for black people.
Just watched this video called:
P0rn Sex vs Real Sex: The Difference Explained with Food.
Some people were saying it is disgusting. I thought it was hilarious!
NSFW??
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q64hTNEj6KQ)
*Is this allowed?
The trailer for the Mandela movie looks interesting. I’m finally seeing what everyone else sees in Idris Elba. 😛 Yum.
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@ Anne
That is crazy, I bet the white males were upset that a black male was skateboarding and were thinking oh come on they have basketball, football,etc now they wanna take over skateboarding rofl. Anyway I can’t help but wonder what would’ve happened to the black man and his son if they were the ones beaten badly would the police have cared, would these males be charged with anything. I do acknowledge the white marine stepped in and that is what whites need to do is step in and speak out when they see these things, but not in a white savior way but in a I recognize injustice and will try to make it right sort of way. The ppl just standing there recording wtf its a group of them they could’ve helped when that man was getting held down and beat smh.
@ lonely voice
I saw that vid the banana in the nutella was funny and when they chopped off the cucumber and was like this is how porn d@k look *chop* now this is how average d#k look roflmbao.
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@Anne,
I am particularly disturbed after seeing that one of perpetrators is a Eurasian male (I am guessing that his father is Korean). When my brother was that age he also joined a couple white guys to bully or beat a black guy. The thing is – I know my brother did that to avoid the fate I suffered – getting bullied by white guys myself. It is a shame that one feels that one only had two choices – getting bullied by white guys, or joining white guys to bully black guys. I do wonder if this was the case with the guy here or if that is still the situation in the USA.
This kind of ideology has divided me and my brother our entire lives.
I also noticed the victim’s father was of West Indian origin.
But I am not pleased with how the news turned it into a white savior story. It is all about how Wen Jones saved the day. If a black guy went in to break it up, I wonder if the perpetrators would have even been charged.
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@jefe & mstoogood,
I believe that the victim’s father was trying to break up the fight and that is why the ex-marine joined the fight. I think the attackers would have been charged even if he didn’t get involved because it was being recorded. Remember it took several months to make the arrest which means they got away with it at first.
For me the thing that stands out is that there are so few comments on these article. Compared to the bus incident, one would think that the public either didn’t know or didn’t care about this.
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@ Anne
that is crazy it seems even with whites beating up another white and the white males still almost got away, I wonder what takes them so dam long to charge and arrest these ppl. what bus incident? are u talking about the one where the whites didn’t want a bus stop built by their community ,or something else?
I just now saw the link u posted to that young brotha starting a business at 13 and is worth 3.5 million, that is amazing. As usual the comments are negative ugh.
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http://www.silentera.com/people/directors/Micheaux-Oscar.html
Nice!
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@mistoogood, yes, that story about the young entrepeneur is amazing. You have to dispel myths whenever you can. Here is another one. It is a little old. For Jeopardy fans.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/13/teen-jeopardy-leonard-cooper-final-question-video_n_2678420.html
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i just love my black girlfriend i thought you should know and we both the alpha its interesting
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@v8driver
You’re both alphas? That sounds interesting…
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well its over now i had vip tickets to a show and she stood me up and she is getting high and drinking all the time and blaming me i am clearing my work order queue and going to do my child support bid in new jersy ima be offline for maybe 90 days i need my license i cant take the damn bus and do field work. and also another girl is pregnant this one is a mental health and drug alcohol but she dont wanna open up she not ready i love her but im out
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i could never respect no submissive as if yeah alpha female and i think that is a lot of the whole ‘ratchet’ designation or whatever yeah man strong black woman its whats up she is gonna lose her house and i could have like about 1500 when i get out of jail im good she dont appreciate me it is personal nothing else thank you.
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Coonskin ( Adult Cartoon )
(http://youtu.be/zwjLV-RkPfg)
Every black person needs to watch this Black, Afrocentric Cartoon. Beware, there’s a lot of profanity in this cartoon, its not for kids.
Don’t be fooled by the movie style beginning, it turns into a cartoon.
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you go girl get that 1/4 oz and dont pay rent just like you said have a nice friday
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Peanut, get a “no disturb ” sign , like in hotels, and tell them when it is on your door handle , not to knock on the door
locking the door should be mandatory, they should absolutly get that
you may have to comprimise on the bill paying, people stuck in habits are hard to change, even if you have a better idea
commute may be hard, but if you could do computor work on the train, that you would do any way and it takes up the time, it could work…think of all the los angeles residents who spend thi much time in trafic every day…i probably couldnt handle it, though…depends on how bad the renting situation is
good luck (Salvador was a blast on our last visit, my son recorded with some Timbalada percussionists , and went to a Candomble cerimony )
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yeah ima get my own place again no more roommates or flatmates the last two tried to kick me out the one before that hit me in the head with a hammer, i tell ya!
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You may not like my advice, but here goes.
If your parents are willing to let you move back home, do that.
Pay whatever they charge you, and abide by their rules.
I’d rather live with my parents than have to deal with strangers from another planet!
Cable, or any other televised broadcasts aren’t worth paying for, and most TV shows AIN’T worth watching – IMO. You can still watch your favs on yt or download free tv/video/music files from on-line file-sharing services.
If you do decide to stay where you are, give up the cable and let your roomies pay for and handle the cable bill. Also, kindly explain to your housemates that when your door is shut, it means you’re unavailable – unless it’s an emergency, and locking one’s apartment door is the wisest and safest course of action. Perhaps they need to hear this from a cop.
SAVE, Save, save your money so when or if the economy perks up again you’ll be in a better financial position. Yep, NOW’s the time to start planning for your financial future!! Not in your 30’s or 40’s… now!!
Yep, it’s hard being the ONLY black person in a sea of white faces… but unless you’re willing to relocate to another region of the country, this is what you’re gonna have to deal with – for now.
So toughen up and make the best of a situation that could be much much worse!
You’ve got a lot of things going for you.
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wow, that is crazy, and I thought it was just the old ppl that want to write checks for everything instead of using up to date technology. shoot maybe u can get a lock for ur bedroom door, that makes no sense for them to keep the door unlocked. make ur room a panic room that way if someone does come in then they’d wish they’d locked the door, and u be in ur room like see I told yall, no i’m not letting anybody in, the cops will be here shortly. Oh this sound like a horror movie plot right here. Except in this movie the black person will not be the first one killed. I hope I never have a roommate after I saw that crazy movie the roommate I was like oh he11 no.
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“mstoogood4yall:
“Except in this movie the black person will not be the first one killed”
LMFAO! This is what i always say! ^_^
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^ idk why black ppl are the first one killed, especially with reflexes like these
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBU47K854g0)
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oh hell no you’re not opening my room door no way
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I;m gonna gave a regular thing in the Open Thread called “White People Say the Darnedest Things.”
Issue 01 – Sex with a goat,or sex with a Black Man? I choose…….
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/porn-star-assaulted-on-set/#comment-125605
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Issue 02 is very NSFW. Its the White Racist apocalypse as a three page comic.
http://www.heretical.com/miscella/rcnoa.html
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@ satanforce
wtf, I couldn’t read some of that comic the words were blurry. It’s funny how they are afraid of karma and still think we want to own them as slaves for payback for our ancestors smh. I’ll tell ya right now I don’t want no dam white slaves or own anybody for that matter, isn’t that what marriage is for rofl. Anyway, it must suck to be living a life of fear and looking over ur shoulder and fearing things happening to u that u did to others. I just love how they always manage to put omg the black man will be raping white women into everything.smh
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@above. Apparently, black men are like toads. We can change our sex when we want to reproduce, as the absence of black women in that scenario is rather jarring. Of course, Mr. Crumb has equally offensive views of nlack women, which I will add later.
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aw too cute, woman gives birth to quintuplets without fertility drugs and the couple has one year old twins, I rarely hear about someone giving birth to multiple babies without drugs and after having twins before.
http://news.yahoo.com/vegas-mom-gives-birth-quintuplets-arizona-152957252.html
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Rofl, satanforce my name is not above. lol im jk. i’m not surprised they always leave black women out of things, but I won’t complain too much as I wouldn’t want to see black women in that crazy comic anyway.
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^ how
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Random notes from the land of the blonde women
I’ve been from a few weeks in the Netherlands and I want to write down thoughts about this interesting country. Not now, but just in a few days… I’m too busy to write anything now!
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@sataforce are you serious
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my gawd now my headache is twice as bad i cant look at that ish that is crazy dude
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at its core its abusive agit prop
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@Peanut,
If I were in your situation I would get the cable bill out of my name. And let them figure the bill for themselves. Then I’d subscribe to HuluPlus or Netflix. Also I would look for some type of meet-up group with the same interest as mine and let that be an avenue to find true friends and potential roommates. In the btwn time network family for a temporary place to stay. Hope that helps. *Please update when you’ve found greener pastures* 😉
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yeah i gots to get out of this house the girl is hitting me now i called my family and ima man up and take care of my child support uh exigent circumstances its chicken or the egg on why at this time, but get out if you can i highly recommned it
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I’m assuming there are no blond men…
0_o?
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The following excerpt from an article on thinking in absolutes which I found interesting:
“… it is not possible to truthfully advocate against racism if you hold any prejudices. That means if you are anti racism, you have to be anti classicism, anti sexism, anti homophobia and the list of prejudices goes on. Often times I have heard people, who will rightfully speak out against discrimination and in the same sentence, turn around and devalue their righteous words by making a prejudiced statement against a particular group of people.
“So what does this all have to do with absolute thinking? Well it’s this simple, human beings, regardless of race, religion or culture, are likely to embrace any belief that is absolute. This is because absolute beliefs are simple, easy to comprehend, and false positives that offer us a false sense of security. If we come to believe that a particular population of people are either all good or all bad, then we fool ourselves into thinking that we have got a piece of a particular equation all figured out. This is a comforting state of mind to be in, as we feel assured and in control. If you have decided that a group of people are all bad, then all you have to do is stay away from them. Life just got easier. If you decide that a group of people are your enemy, all you have to do is make war against them and once they are all gone life would be better, right?
“The problem with absolute thinking is that it causes pain and suffering in the life of the person who adheres to an all-or-nothing attitude in any facet of his thought process. This is because the person is routinely exposed to contradictions to his beliefs, which creates a sense of threat to his world view.”
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/promoting-empathy-your-teen/201109/the-problem-absolute-thinking
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Thinking/believing that ALL *white* people are racist SUSPECTS (until proven otherwise) is not absolute thinking, it is wise intelligent thinking that minimizes the confusion that black people face on a daily basis, mitigating who is and isn’t a threat to their safety and well being.
It’s the kind of thinking that augments one’s thinking process, thereby enabling a black person to live yet another day.
Be wary, be alert, be vigilant around unfamiliar white people! Your life depends on it.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/justice/police-shootings/index.html
Here’s another story of a black man, looking for help from law enforcement and a fellow American citienzen, gets killed as a result of assuming, he is an American citien with rights and is seen as innocent or a victim in a helpless situation. His car crashes, he manages to escape by smashing the rear window of the car, injured he finds his way to a near by home, knocks on the door, white woman shuts the door in his face and calls police.
police show up, this black man is glad to see help is on the way and runs toward the officers as he is injured and needs medical attention and needs to tell the officers about his ordeal, the cops tase him apon sight and then shot him multiple times, killing an injured black man, that was just in a severe car accident.
I’m curious as to see how the police dept. and the white media will spin this, maybe look up his criminal background history? Look for pictures of him in Facebook to see if he is throwing up any gang signs or smoking weed?
Time to wake up black people, stop thinking color doesn’t matter and how “you don’t see color” or ” love is color blind”.
Sex is the only thing, that’s color blind, not love and just because you say to yourself over and over again as to convince yourself, you don’t see color, it doesn’t matter, white people see color and that is the only thing that matters, not that you don’t.
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^ yeah I read about that its crazy, I do wonder if they tazed him and if there is tape of it, because a lot of police tazers have cams on them and start recording when it is drawn. I also wonder if the dashcam was on, I just wonder because it seems kinda unusual for the cops to say yes our officer acted with excessive force and be so quick to charge him, normally they are like it is a tragic accident we will look into it and the guy is not charged with anything and is either still on duty or paid time off. We will see how this plays out, I won’t hold out hope though, and I wonder what the other officers that were there have to say and if there were any witnesses.
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@ Anne
I hear you are from Trinidad and I have a few questions if you don’t mind. We have an arts in the heart festival every year here and this year one of the countries will be Trinidad. Each country cooks some native dishes. I was wondering if you could advice me on what is good.
Here are the dishes mentioned:
All Dinners come with salad or steamed vegetables: Goat roti, Chicken Roti, Chana &Alloo Roti, Fried fish and bake, Bake and Saltfish Boulgol
Vegetarian
Chana & Alloo & Paratha Roti, Callaloo/white rice, Peas & Rice, Dahl and Rice
APPETIZER
Palori with mango chutney
DESSERT
Sponge Cake, Black Cake, Pone. or Pamie
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Sondis and Mstoogood,
Keep watching that story about the crash victim being shot while seeking help. Something smells fishy to me on that one, we’ve not heard the whole story yet.
Matari,
Do you read Derbyshire? I think like you do, except in the opposite direction as it turns out. I try and teach my friends and family to be wary around unknown black people, for the same reason as you stated, your life depends on it. You and I are not so different after all. We can build on that perhaps. Would you be willing to give separate but equal another shot, if in fact we can make it equal?
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“Riverside_Rob
Sondis and Mstoogood,
Keep watching that story about the crash victim being shot while seeking help. Something smells fishy to me on that one, we’ve not heard the whole story yet.”
What is it that smells fishy?
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Black men need to be careful when they encounter law enforcement. I read that the SWAT team killed a 100 year old black man in his home. Why did it take the SWAT team. He was going to be transferred to an assisted living facility. I am think the poor gentleman was confused, and his cognizant faculties were impaired. That was tragic to me. If they kill elderly people they will kill anybody .
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/us/navy-yard-suspects/index.html
Navy Yard shooter, Aaron Alexis looks like another black man has been pushed to the edge, Living in a country that’s hostile toward black men.
Not long ago, it was a Black LA police officer, named Christopher Dorner that was pushed to the edge, this is the latest tragedy in where the black man has had enough.
We’ll see and hear, countless explanations of what his motives were and why he did it, blah blah blah.
We as black people, know why black people snap like this, we are not known for this sort of killing, so when it does happen, i know as a black man, that it was how he was treated by white people as a black man.
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@ Riverside_Rob
I am going to view this as you seeking attention.
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tada…There is your 2 mins of Lame.
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Matari,
I am definitely wary around unknown whites, and quite a few of the “known” ones too (recall that dragging victim James Byrd jr knew his killers, or, at the very least, had the acquaintance of the white men who murdered him). That, however, should not be taken to mean that I think ALL whites are evil.
Thinking that all Black males are violent criminals, or even little more than rabid dogs, is what got that young Black man murdered by the white cops from whom he was seeking help after his car stalled on the road. Whites (and apparently other non-Blacks) have the advantage of killing us with impunity.
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” Would you be willing to give separate but equal another shot, if in fact we can make it equal?”
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The only way it could be equal is if WHITENESS permits black police officers and armed black civilians to shoot/kill/murder unarmed white people — and get away with it by simply stating that they believed they saw a weapon and felt that their life was threatened… or oops, wrong (drug dealer) address, unfortunate white family death by black swat cops, accident.
Do you think *WHITENESS* would go for this sort of equality??
Would you?
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3352909/
bust the trap. but mind your corners!
“Mind the Trap”: Mindfulness Practice Reduces Cognitive Rigidity
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Sharina,
Everything on that menu is good but I will tell you what my favorites are.
Goat roti, fry bake and buljol, callaloo (very good), poulori, black cake.
If you want to make authentic get some Peardrax to drink.
I hope you enjoy it. Let me know what you think.
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@ Anne
Thanks! 🙂
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Fiamma,
” That, however, should not be taken to mean that I think ALL whites are evil. ”
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I recall using the term all whites are “racist suspects”, unless otherwise known.
Nonetheless, white people seem to have a greater propensity towards evil than others, imo. Just observe what they’ve been doing all over the planet for the past 400 – 500 years.
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(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byyWQEYzS2A)
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V8, yes, that article is interesting.
On another note, it seems like some of you guys have fans who have followed you into the open thread. Why, lord?
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@ Matari,
I came across this short video pertaining to “whiteness” which might interest you. In it just white people are reflecting on their own observations about this.
I suppose you could say they are reflecting on the true status of their unacknowledged “evilness”!!! 😀
But it could prove insightful…
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/whitewashed-unmasking-world-whiteness/
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Thank you, Kwamla!
“…it could prove insightful…”
Well it should – to the clueless naysayers like Xp and others of that tribe who insist that their WHITE privilege is only a figment of OUR imagination – and the fantasy of those white commie liberals perpetuating myths in this documentary.
At the end of the day these clowns (Xp and company) will enact the same exact privilege by denying they possess any privileges … “we’re just poor regular white folks who worked hard to get everything we got.. no one gave us any advantages or anything!”
Yeah, right!
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Where has legion been lately? And tehnoun….not to mention Peanut?
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Fiamma,
“Thinking that all Black males are violent criminals, or even little more than rabid dogs, is what got that young Black man murdered by the white cops from whom he was seeking help after his car stalled on the road. Whites (and apparently other non-Blacks) have the advantage of killing us with impunity.”
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I agree!
Now the question becomes – when/how we will stop them from killing us with impunity? Being good/acceptable UNARMED Negro citizens apparently isn’t enough to stop the carnage.
(We weren’t part of the community that ran to the gun retailers to purchase weapons and ammo when Obama got elected, preparing themselves for an imagined race war.)
Apparently in the minds of too many white people, *good* Negros are an oxymoron.
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Sometimes White individuals think about “whiteness” and its social implications on the life of Black people. Look at following interesting article on CNN website:
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/19/opinion/colby-black-friends/index.html?iref=obinsite
Note:
No, I have not forgot to write my impressions on the “land of the blonde women”. This will come later…
phoebeprunelle,
“I’m assuming there are no blond men… 0_o?”
The small detail, phoebeprunelle, is that I’m male and normally my eyes lock on the silhouettes and bodies of women and their beauty “that God created for the delight of our eyes… ah…”
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@ Mstoogood4yall and Mary Burrell
I will try to get some nice pictures of the good looking Jamacian and Nigerian men that are at the festival
@ Sondis
Even though you p*ss me off I will get some pictures of the women for you
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Jamaican*
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sharina
To add to your list, West Indian Patties aka Jamaican Patties. Curried goat is good as is Roti, Bakes, Rice and Gunga?? peas/black eye peas.
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@ Omnipresent
Thanks! 🙂
I am so excited because last year I was too scared to really try anything I did not know, but this year I said to heck with it. There will be Nigerian dishes as well that I am looking forward to. I am hyped. It can not come fast enough.
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Enjoy 🙂
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Hi Sharina,
All Dinners come with salad or steamed vegetables: Goat roti, Chicken Roti, Chana &Alloo Roti, Fried fish and bake, Bake and Saltfish Boulgol
Vegetarian
Chana & Alloo & Paratha Roti, Callaloo/white rice, Peas & Rice, Dahl and Rice
APPETIZER
Palori with mango chutney
DESSERT
Sponge Cake, Black Cake, Pone. or Pamie
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Both the goat roti and chicken roti I’ve had consists of chunks of meat left on the bone cooked with chunks of boiled potatoes and West Indian style curry powder (which is yellowish from lots of turmeric) and served either with or wrapped inside cooked roti dough. Often very tasty if seasoned just right . My personal favorite is goat roti.
Chana & aloo roti is chick pea and potato roti. My sister orders this whenever she can’t get hold of the beef roti, as she can’t deal with the sharp bones in the chicken roti and doesn’t take to the idea of eating goat meat. It’s okay, but a bit bland for my tastes.
The style of Pholourie I’ve had is Guyanese and is probably my favorite dish of that cuisine. It consists of little deep fried balls of yeast raised dough which are crispy on the outside and tender on the inside. It is served with a tangy but sweet dipping sauce. I never knew what the sauce was but it was probably a thinned out mango chutney.
Dahl and rice is lentils and rice.
Black cake, I believe, is a type of fruitcake made with rum soaked fruit. I’ve had it made by a Jamaican lady, and the cake was dense and moist. The fruit seemed to have been ground up before it was added to the batter, as I don’t recall coming across chunks of fruit in the manner of American style fruitcake.
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Thanks as well Fiamma. I really hope this food does not add like 20lbs on me. LOL. I won’t be able to get it off in time for my vacation if it does.
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sharina
What Fiamma says is making my mouth water. The curried goat I have is usually served with rice – Basmati is good. If as Fiamma also says it is not seasoned well, perhaps they might have some West Indian Hot Pepper sauce nearby.
The fruit in the fruitcake is sometimes blended and flavoured with rum – probably the only time I can eat fruitcake.
Fiamma: your sister can just use chicken breasts/filleted instead of boned.
LOL – I read all this and its almost as if I personally cook the stuff myself. I dont but I certainly enjoy eating it.
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@ Omnipresent
LOL…I am a bit jealous that you guys have some great cooks in your area to have tasted it before, but I am very happy you guys were able to give me great advice on what to try for my first time.
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@ Sharina: Thanx for wanting to share the fun and festivities with me. It sounds like so much fun.
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@ Mary
🙂 no problem.
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ooh i got them presentencing jitters bad i just want you all to know you mean something to me and it is a lot and a good thing and thank you.
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Ok I had to share this. Possible blog topic Abagond.
http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/south-african-family-trades-suburban-comforts-for-slums–stirring-controversy-183911585.html
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You’re welcome, Sharina. 🙂
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Omnipresent,
Yeah, after reading my own comment, I realized how much it came off sounding like the descriptions one finds on the menus at fancy restaurants. In reading it back, I made my own self hungry. lol.
About the chicken filet: I’ve never tried my hand at West Indian style curry, but the filets are a great idea as a substitute for chicken on the bone. I might just try it!
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Matari,
“Now the question becomes – when/how we will stop them from killing us with impunity? Being good/acceptable UNARMED Negro citizens apparently isn’t enough to stop the carnage.
“(We weren’t part of the community that ran to the gun retailers to purchase weapons and ammo when Obama got elected, preparing themselves for an imagined race war.)
“Apparently in the minds of too many white people, *good* Negros are an oxymoron.”
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An excellent question, Matari, and I wish I had the answer to it, but, unfortunately I don’t.
If racist non-Blacks can somehow be made to see Blacks as human beings, this alone should cut down on the number of unarmed Blacks who are killed by so-called peace keepers. A pipedream I know, but I don’t honestly believe that turning the tables on them is the answer either. It is morally wrong and it won’t work anyway; we are grossly outnumbered (in the US anyway).
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/justice/north-carolina-police-shooting/index.html
Here the latest developments in the case of a police officer, shooting a unarmed black man, that was seeking help for his injuries, after being in a severe car crash. Looking for help, he knocked on doors to get help.
One white woman was home, she opened the door and saw it was a black man, closed the door in his face and called police and said someone was trying to break into the house! Police came, tased him and then shot at him multiples, hitting him 10 times, killing him.
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Its obvious that black people need to add to the list of things to teach our young black boys and men.
1st Never knock on a white persons door and expect for them to not think you’re a criminal, that wants to break into your house and rob or rape you.
This is the old, black men can’t be a victim, trope.
Second, never call the police when you’re in need of help, because if you do, they will suspect you’re a criminal, once they see that you’re a black man, then start to question you, give you a Breathalyzer test and run your back ground to see if you have any prior arrests or warrants.
Third, they will shoot you on site, not to handicap you but to kill you!
I hope this white woman is tormented for the rest of her natural born life, knowing her racist stereotype caused the death of an innocent person and not only innocent but in need a help, after being injured in a car crash.
Sadly, I’m already reading the CNN blogs of white people, WANTING TO SEE THIS DEAD MAN’S TOXICOLOGY REPORT!
I am not surprised in the least bit that white people, show no sympathy for a innocent black man, getting killed for no reason, other than seeking help from a fellow America citizen and law enforcement that suppose to protect and serve. Not him a black man but that’s America for you….
White people are soulless creatures,when it comes to black people and other people of color.
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The negative behavior practiced by certain non-Blacks against Blacks are individual occurrences / acts. These individuals, and only these individuals, will suffer the consequences of their actions. This remains true whether Blacks are witness to the retribution or not.
It is also true that even harboring negative thoughts have consequences. This is why it is important that Blacks do not hate those non-Blacks who wish us harm, as, by doing so, we are bringjng the consequences of negativity onto ourselves. Blacks who commit crimes, particularly crimes of violence,.will also pay the price. We are not exempt.
Being Black and suffering the effects of racism is not an excuse for hatred and negativity,.
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Am I the only one who finds a certain level of humor in the desperateness of trolls to not only be on this blog but the need and screams for attention. I truly have found I have a sick pleasure in seeing this action take place. hmmmm
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Please excuse the extraneous commas an periods. The font for posting is tiny and I’m nearly as blind as a bat.
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Folks, I am working on a post about the Racist Hall Of Fame and Infamy. Folks I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you may have. I absolutely enjoy mocking them. You can make your suggestions here:
Here is a old post I wrote about some former resident white racist tools:
Thanks!
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This was weird to read.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/19/kenya-mindy-budgor-masai-mara
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I was interested in the Aaron Alexis story because it was fresh & I wanted to see how white people responded to the story.
My whole mantra is, you cannot escape violence for the most part under European authority. They are the masters of violence. And pretty much infect any culture they impose them-self upon.
Now, if you have a problem with someone, you take it up with the person you have a problem with. And have some got d@mn aim (looking at the black thugs who terrorize black neighborhoods & innocent kids end up dead)
It seem like what Aaron Alexis did was senseless & not well-thought out. I can’t co-sign killing of the random innocent lives.
For example, we have an incident in NYC, where a white dude had an issue with an ex-boss, and he walked up to the man he had a problem with, and blew him away.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/25/empire-state-building-shooting-nypd-bullets-shot-all-nine_n_1830007.html
Now, only one death happened, the NYPD made it worse with there poor training & reaction skills (which seems to be an American police problem) and nine other people got hurt.
I believe the NYPD shot two other bystanders last weekend trying to subdue a black man.
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Just like any white mass murderer, they go with mental illness, so that is what I am rolling with until all the facts & details are on the table.
I truly doubt this black man was on some racial retribution tip like Colin Ferguson.
RIP to the victims
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Adonis:
“Just like any white mass murderer, they go with mental illness, so that is what I am rolling with until all the facts & details are on the table.”
Unfortunately, we as black people, are not given the diagnosis of having a “Mental illness”, when we murder in mass or an individual.
This way, they to keep black people, categorized as criminals and white people as innocent, when determining a reason for a white person that kills.
try again…..
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@Sondis
Oh wait, I wasn’t finished
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Who Benefits From The Safety Net
Just in case you were keeping score!
It goes to show, that even a poor white person is very privileged. And receives more TANGIBLE help, than white people would like to admit.
But gives any black person within earshot, FAKE OUTRAGE about any progress, & any crumb that a black person receives.
I do not want to hear a welfare argument ever again.
White people are the one & only true moocher & the original thief.
And do not think for one second white people are working the system to its FULL advantage, even illegally.
Get your money white folks, but stop worry about how I am making it out here. Your hands are not clean.
Where is this BLACK RACISM people, that is all this black man wants to know!!!
Let people like Da Jokah & xPraetorious tell it. We are giving white people the SHAFT, with Obama’s blessing.
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@ Adonis
The huge flaw in your comment is that you assume that blacks and whites are somehow equally deserving of government help. You need to contextualize:
– Whites are hard-working Americans who pay their taxes.
– Blacks are layabout moochers, whiners who expect handouts.
Therefore giving blacks money:
1. Is a drain on the country.
2. Creates disincentives to provide the rich with cheap labour.
3. Subsidizes social dysfunction (insert stereotypes here or just watch the documentary “Precious”).
That same money is much better spent on imperialistic wars, defence contractors, subsidies to big business (oil companies, agribusiness), tax breaks for the rich, bailouts and Israel.
/sarcasm off
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You might do something about this CNN article, http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/16/world/international-adoption-us-children-adopted-abroad/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+(RSS%3A+Most+Recent)
And yes, the Dutch are much more likely to discriminate on nationality and religion than on race, and yes, the US-Afro-American has a most favored position in the Dutch racial hierarchy. Provided you don’t mind a bit of blackface for about a quarter of the year and all year round political incorrectness, it may feel like a racism-less country.
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luckily my acquaintance from high school is takin my family court jawn in nj pro bono tonight well sheesh a lot to say tryin to port the personal stuff out of the public stream on fb so hard to abstract things to a more refined view and not the play by play….
well she said she loves me yet and shes supposed to send a picture that is in direct contravention to modern probability theories, so…
@abagond please split this thread it is just not possible to read and comment with the comment form at the top and the latest entries at the bottom, there is no ‘go to top’ button in the wordpress app nor chrome so it’s hard to read on the bus… gotta trim it at like 500 or so
@dave dude when i get out we gotta get a couple slices, i think i should skip the pub crawl down west chester pike or whatever though
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Today’s episode of “The white and privileged”
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/09/19/nr-ohio-cop-traffic-stop-goes-viral.cnn.html
White family, gets cuffed by one policeman and hurls all kinds of insults and resists arrest and gets to live to not only tell the tale but threaten to sue the cop and the police dept. Ready for this? The cop gets administrative leave!
Wow! must be grand to be white, had that been a black family, they probably would have been shot dead for hurling such profanity at a police officer, let alone, get a police officer, administrative leave.
I watched the video and just couldn’t believe the amount of entitlement and privilege that these white people were experiencing.
Their attitude was out of shock, that this was happening to THEM! I’m white, how dare you have us on the ground and point a gun at us and arrest us!
My favorite part was watching the white woman’s yelling and screaming, like she was being tortured!
what a freaking drama queen and king, both these white people were.
I guarantee you, that the charges will be dropped or they will be given a lesser charge, like a misdemeanor.
Its obvious that this cop, that was patrolling this suburban neighborhood, had nothing better to do than harass their daughter, driving the car.
Everyone involved is dumb and just wasted the tax payers dime on this poor excuse for a traffic stop. I hope when this moron,, gets back on the beat, he can stop a real crime.
As for the white folks…Typical white folks, so entitled that they don’t even feel they need to listen to a police officer. I could only imagine if the cop was black….oh boy!
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@sondis
This reminds me of the Jane Elliot “blue eye/brown eye” experiment.
Whites go through a little adversity, and they are ready to die.
Now, that white couple & that white officer knew that if that officer would have did what those officers did to those black women (punches, elbows, abuse), I think in Rochester New York, he would probably be in jail.
They are white citizens with legal RIGHTS.
We are refugees & black denizens. We have PRIVILEGES.
Meaning that our right to vote is not GOSPEL.
That is why Zimmerman felt so comfortable profiling Trayvon Martin. He would be in jail if he killed Tommy Martin with pale skin.
(side note: There was this Muslim troll called FaceToTheFloor on this blog who called Trayvon, NO LIMIT, LOL)
That is why we need to nationalize & get on the same page & get business handled. And holla at these international courts.
Good day
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It is done
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It is done
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First day of arts in the heart. Had Suya, Irish whiskey cake, and Bul Go Ki.
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(http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IqebEymqFS8)
Husband sees wife for the first time again.
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Sharina,
By “Bul Go Ki”, do you mean Korean barbeque? if so, was it beef or pork, and what did you think of it? I’ve never tried it but I’ve heard it is delicious (I’ve always seen it spelled “bulgogi”).
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@Fiamma
Yes Korean barbecue and it is beef. It was absolutely delicious. Anything the kids are willing to eat it has my blessing. Lol.
I usually see it spelled that way as well but they had it Bul Go Ki on the menu.
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(http://youtu.be/v__icFT634s)
Full vid of the cop & the white family
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Wake up black people, we’re under siege here in America, just like we’ve always been. Nothing has changed!
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/20/justice/florida-police-run-over-man/index.html
$550.000 for the death of a black family member is what this family received!
This amount for the death of a loved one, is a slap in the face to any family, regardless of race but it just so happens to be a black family, that got slapped in the face!
Florida has the funds to award a higher payout but they don’t want to give a black family, no more than what they need too.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/06/1221732/-Unarmed-Man-Shot-And-Killed-By-Police-While-Watering-Plants#
^^ white man gets shot and killed by police, the family is awarded 6.5 million in damages!!! Dead white people, bring more money and dead black people!
Even other minorities, receive higher settlements and without even being killed!! watch the video in the link!
Homeless couple shot by police during California raid awarded $4 million
Angel Mendez and his pregnant wife, Jennifer, were sleeping when cops burst into their makeshift home in Oct. 2010. The officers opened fire when the husband allegedly reached for a BB gun
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/homeless-couple-shot-police-california-raid-awarded-4-million-article-1.1428821#ixzz2fYa4YQ8F
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Sharina,
It sounds great! One day I’ll get around to trying bulgogi myself, even if I have to make it from scratch. Thanks for responding. 🙂
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@sondis
Favorite poster.
I think whites & Spanish speaking people are better connect & rally support.
One of the things black people have to do is be connected to people in high places.
When you are not connected, your grievances do not get heard or taken seriously.
And thank you for providing TWO stories non-black stories of unarmed people getting shot.
White man died for being drunk & holding a water hose. I looked outside for the apocalypse.
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“Adonis
@sondis
Favorite poster.
I think whites & Spanish speaking people are better connect & rally support.
One of the things black people have to do is be connected to people in high places.”
That is lies the problem, black people can’t get connected to white people in high places, because they don’t want to connect with black people.
That is what black people have been trying to do, ever since the civil rights movement, look where that got King and Malcolm, dead!
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@sondis
Totally get where you are coming from.
But we have to learn from our ancestors & make even more informed choices than they did.
First, we gotta stop spending our money on silly trinkets & get some business handled.
Good day
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@ Fiamma
If you can find a Korean grocery in your area and ask for a good recipe. I asked the ladies here for it and they kindly gave it to me along with some restaurants in the area. I had the goat roti and absolutely loved that as well. I also had some curry goat and Caribbean salad from the Jamaicans. I absolutely love their Caribbean salad. I was always afraid to try goat but it was really good. I was quite surprised. Or maybe all these people are just really good cooks. LOL
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@ sondis
that woman was yelling as if the officer was breaking her arm, if it was a black family cursing like that they would’ve been slammed to the ground and tazed, how the he11 none of them didn’t get tazed.
that cop should not have ran that man over, just get a dam canine unit to go after him or run after him. $550 smh. We can’t expect to get much for our pain and suffering since they think we don’t feel as much then we can’t expect them to give us much.
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Did anyone mention about Nina Davuluri,Miss America? I read the hate messages have been flying.
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@jefe
I caught it, Miss America
Same bigots who were losing their minds in the Interracial Cherrios commercial.
Post-racial my tush
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Anyone seen this “hate map” of twitter tweets using negative slurs?
http://users.humboldt.edu/mstephens/hate/hate_map.html#
There is an intense hate spot in SW Virginia at the foothills of the Appalachian. that is near Va. Tech – they seem to “hate” about everyone. There are smaller hate spots in southern MN, eastern IA, the tri-state area of IN, OH and KY (bordering on Cincinnatti) and spots in central GA and AL. There are few hate tweets from MS, esp. the MS delta. Is it because ppl don’t use Twitter there? Historically, that was the center of hatred in the country. Still, Memphis TN is not a hate tweet hotspot – that is a large enough metro area to have twiter usage.
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I was just reading about the Kenya Mall shooting. My support and condolences to the people of Kenya during this time of senseless violence at the hands of terrorists.
But my strong feelings aside, behind the horror of the event stands a Nairobi I’ve never seen—modern, racially integrated, and well-manicured. This is the Africa that’s not supposed to exist. What a shame that it can only be shown when accompanied by a body count.
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/kenya-mall-attack-slideshow/
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I might change my mind, but at this point I am not doing a post on Aaron Alexis. He seems to be a nutcase, hearing voices and such. His killings do not seem to be racially motivated nor has the right racialized them as far as I know – correct me if I am wrong. The right generally tiptoes around shootings like this because they are in bed with the NRA (the gun industry).
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@Abagond Do you have a blogroll? or blogs that you’d reccommnd?
@King My heart also goes out to kenyans 😦
I really hate al shabab. Making somalis (and muslism as a hole) look like monsters.
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@abagond
Do what is best for you. Just know I am looking forward to it.
Your blog is excellent, and I appreciate you letting me get your floor a little dirty.
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Adonis:
I agree that we need to handle our own business by owning our own, businesses and become independent of white people.
We depend on white people way to much, to give us a life by giving us a job, benefits, a nice place to live. You name it, we depend on white people to provide for us in every way, possible.
We even come to white people for approval and permission to do anything.
There are so many reason why, black people can’t own our own businesses in mass, only a small % of the 40 million black people in America, own their own businesses.
This is by design, being the powers that be, own the banks and they will not give loans to black people to open their own, businesses.
white people need black people to be dependent on them for their businesses, why would they give black people loans to open businesses in their own neighborhood , so they can keep black money circulating withing the black community, before it reaches the white man?
Come on now black people, you got to recognize the game…..
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mstoogood4yall:
Tap a brotha or a sista on the should and say, open ya eyes to you can see what’s coming….
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You know Sondis, I agree with pretty much everything you said. 🙂
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mostly agree. There is some unwillingness to lend to black people perhaps. But many blacks can get mortgages on 1-2 million dollar homes in high income neighborhoods. I think there is a bigger reluctance to lend to business in black neighborhoods (rather than to black people per se).
agree that it applies to *some* white people and even to *some* non-white and non-black people. Some white people might not be as dependent and can make their livelihood without too much input from black people.
There has to be some incentive, right? I doubt that much of that goodwill will come from the non-black groups.
But, your argument is making a couple assumptions and therefore *possibly* misses a couple pieces of the puzzle.
1. There are still some businesses serving mostly blacks. Some are owned and operated by blacks, but many of these are owned and operated by non-blacks. Blacks still do need to consume and will pay for that consumption, whether the business is owned by blacks or not.
2. Businesses serving blacks, even if they are not owned and operated by black people, are also subject to some of the disenfranchisement (eg, redlining) from banks, insurance companies, and have to operate in neighborhoods that may experience inferior municipal services and police protection. Yet they still operate, even thrive. Why?
3. Why do black people need to depend solely on white or mainstream institutions to satisfy the needs of entrepreneurs? How about tapping into non-mainstream sources of credit, insurance, security and public services?
4. There may be some preference by some blacks to patronize non-black businesses for various reasons. One reason might even be “Because they can”.
But, as one commenter previously mentioned, perhaps some blacks, once they can afford to “leave” the black neighborhood, they do. And with them leave their black dollars. They might even be able to afford to open a business, but serving black customers might not be their priority.
The other question is where to tap into non-mainstream (or non-white) sources of financing and credit, insurance, services, business training, etc. If white institutions redline, then one must look for alternative institutions that do not. If they do not exist, they must be created. There is no need to sit around and wait for white institutions to “come around”.
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http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/09/18/stunningly-beautiful-black-women-from-around-the-world/
Stunningly Beautiful Black Women From Around The World
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New blog post, in case it’s of interest to anyone.
http://www.buddhuu.com/wake-up-23092013/
You are very welcome to read, ignore, challenge etc.
My friends got tired of me ranting on my FB profile, so I took the political stuff to an FB page, and subsequently to a blog as FB isn’t the best platform for substantial stuff…
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@ Adonis
Those sistahs are beautiful i love that its black women of different skin tones and from different countries on that list.
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After re reading Najia girls rants, I realized she must’ve been teased. She was apparently called African booty scratcher, and clowned for being African…..
@Najia girl, here’s the thing.
It’s not as much of a “black Americans don’t like Africans” type of thing as it is a “Americans are D**kheads as a whole” type of thing. Because that’s what it is. America is pretty much a society of assholes. Talking ish is as American as apple pie. It’s just what we do here. So believe me, its all love. Whatever makes you you, will get clowned and roasted. Period..ya fat? Ull get hit with fat jokes.. short? Short jokes..Asian? Getting hit with every stereotype in the book. It really doesn’t matter what race or color you are.. I wear glasses and have crooked teeth so I heard soooo many “you can eat corn on the cob from behind a fence” jokes. So again.. its not a black thing. Be around whites get clowned by them, Spanish? Roasted by them. Don’t matter. Clowning folks is what we do here. Nothin personal ma
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@MsTooGoodForYall
Those sisters would put the fear of GOD in any real beauty contest.
They would never allow sisters like that to have REAL Times Square like visibility. Lol
Undermines white woman’s shaky standards of beauty
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@ mussandrad
It is very obvious and to some extent I am hoping she is young. Atleast she will have time to grow and mature if that is the case. She should not hold ill will towards others because of her experience. As I say …..get to know and like people individually. But I have to wonder though. She says she knows some nice AA women, but then she stills tries to clown on them. I see something deeper in that but I have not quite put my finger on it.
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Nature’s Classroom(Connecticut) Using ‘Slavery Reenactments’ as Education tools
(http://youtu.be/xUIS5R9knvk)
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Adonis, mstoogood4yall:
This is for all the, “interracial activists” on this blog, that i have encountered.
Note that this is coming from a black WOMAN and not a man, which is refreshing as not one black women on this, “black identified” blog, feels anywhere close to this black woman in the video, yet these same black women will say how beautiful black couples and black men and women are, when viewing them on a website, like the one posted above and at the same time, promote black and white love over black on black love as the only alternative.
(http://youtu.be/4rtNB_ORuw0)
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This week’s episode of, “White privilege” White couple, wins long custody battle with the FATHER of a native American father for HIS biological daughter.
Only in America can white people, be allowed to take a minority child away from the father and the courts allow it.
White people feel so entitled and this white couple is no exception, entitled to anything and everything, even minority children.
The father fought for his daughter and got her back, 2 years later, the white courts, awarded custody of his own daughter to white people. WHAT???
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/23/us/native-american-custody-dispute/index.html
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that nature classroom mess crossed the line, but rofl when Melissa harris perry said oh the next time u want to reenact slavery how about nat turners rebellion lol. I wonder who the heck thought that was ok, I also wonder if other parents will come forward.
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@sondis
Good post.
I love the highlights.
And its disgusting.
Whites are going to throw themselves off a bridge when that privilege gets taken away.
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@ sondis
i can’t believe they got custody of that child, but did the father sign his rights away because i thought both parents have to sign for a child to go up for adoption. oh i remember seeing them on dr phil episode and it was weird how they were trying to paint the tribe as being selfish and not having the childs best interest at heart. Oh and it made me sick when these 2 males that were a small percent of native American and were adopted by whites they just basically said they didn’t feel connected to native americans and weren’t really interested in it and the audience cheered. also on that episode it was a white couple that was in hiding to keep their adopted native American baby from being taken from them. i mean dang don’t adopt native American kids if u that scared of the parents being able to use the law to get the child back. why risk it.
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Dot:
Yes, indeed they will. Its going to get worse with all this talk about cutting snap benefits off, completely. ( Food stamps )
Then you’ll see all those, white people go crazy, ( being there are more white people on food stamps, than black people ) Of coarse you wouldn’t know that from the white media and from the right wing political party. They always mention black people in the same breath as Food stamps.
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mstoogood4yall:
Yes, he did sign his parental right away at on point but i feel that is irrelevant, white people always use the law in their favor but when it comes to a person of color, the law doesn’t work, being he fought to get his own flesh and blood daughter, got her back for 2 years and now they take his own daughter from him and his family, too!
I will guarantee that if the situation was revered and a minority had adopted a white child and a white man had given up his parental rights, they would have taken that baby away from a minority couple and given the child back to the father of the child.
So i am not leaning on that, parental rights crap they are throwing around, it shouldn’t matter, all that matters is that he wanted his baby!
This is white supremacy at its best. The
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what i gather from different articles is that he signed his rights away thinking it was to give sole custody to the mother and not realizing it was so the child could be adopted. When he realized it he started trying to get her back. I don’t think that child should be taken away from biological family. This is another example why males need to be extra careful who they have kids with as that child can and will be taken from u. I also saw a case where a white male got his kid taken from him by his wife and she lived in brazil and remarried. Then she died and the step father got custody, it took him a long time to get his bio son back to America and get full custody. At least his daughter will grow up one day and know her father did fight to have her and does love her. Hopefully he can get custody later or at least have a relationship with her.
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@sondis
Dot is Adonis.
My bad
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Adonis:
lmao Its alright… ^_^
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But yes if this was reversed a white child would be back to their white parents asap. ur honor oh no my poor white client didn’t know what was happening they signed their rights away, oh they were going through a lot they lost their job and had a bad day. They were emotionally distressed plz have pity and give the child back to its rightful parents. Those poc can’t raise a white child properly, nevermind they were breastfed by black female slaves or have latino nannies. judge: i give custody to the white parents as they deserve another chance with their child, a child is a gift, but a white child is a gift only to be opened by whites. Yes and poc children are like gifts too except everybody gets them but if a white and a person of color want the same “colored” child then the white gets the child. If a poc wants a white child, then the whites get the white child hands down. so ya see white always wins in the just his system.
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rofl, u let whites get to be the minorities in this country in a couple yrs and u already know they won’t let anybody adopt a white child except white ppl. I sometimes feel these ppl get a poc child as an accessory they collect children. See i have my black friends and my “colored” children i can’t be racist. See look i got me a rare native American baby isn’t she cute, i’m gone raise her to be the white child i always wanted but couldn’t have. I’ve never seen a black family with an adopted white child, hmm. I’m going to adopt a white child when i get older, yes sir go right into an agency and say give me one of those rare white children i don’t see them anymore only on the white reservations aka white gated suburbs.( yall know that is where they will retreat when they become more of a minority) Yep i want to add one to my personal collection.. i mean family. I’ll make a good adoption mother yes i will cook and clean for that white child and maybe even breastfeed it, it will be just like old times.
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I remember a few years ago a Black woman had a baby and had it apogee out to a White family while her husband or significan other was fighting is Iraq. I don’t think he signed away his rights because she never told him about the child. Last I heard he was fighting some White people, in I believe Utah, for the custody of his own child. I wonder if he won…?
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The man’s name is Terry Achane. The White family has yet to return the man’s child. The mother deserves ALOT of blame in this one.
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Kanye West on how racism is obsctructing him:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/23/kanye-west-zane-lowe-interview
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*Sigh*. Obstructing, not “obsctructing”.
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Does this thread expire this month?
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@ Jadapoo
I think I heard about that one, in Utah the father doesn’t have to sign they have some loopholes over there that can allow for just the mother to sign the rights away and the child get placed for adoption. women sometimes come from over the country just to go to Utah and sign their child away without the father’s consent, its really messed up.
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@ jadapoo
I just looked it up and thank goodness he got custody.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/29/terry-achane-adoption_n_2574394.html
Dang what is it with the military men’s crazy girlfriends/ wives just giving the child up for adoption. I mean dang how cold do u have to be to sign the child away while the guys over in a dam war zone, she is crazy. Glad he ain’t with that selfish … anymore and he has his daughter.
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In Florida this week and the Hispanic community is amazing. I met a Puerto Rican or rather quite a few who instantly took to my kids as if they were family. I met some men from the islands that were so kind and polite. My husband is feeling so at home here it is a wow factor for me. I actually felt a little embarassed because people assume I speak spanish because of my name and start talking to me in spanish. I have to focus more on me learning.
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@ Sharina: Looks like you and your family are having a wonderful time. I think that’s lovely. I love hearing about positive things like the experience you are having. It so refreshing to read about this.
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@jefe its the world according to australia, looks like.
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(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMCvQtYi53g#t=341)
Racism ate his neck…
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