How to be a good White American:
1. Be White. Make sure your parents are of pure European blood – or look it. If not, you can still be an honorary White.
2. Do not rock the boat. Once born, never question, call out or stand up to the racism of White people. Just that of Blacks. Unlike Blacks, White people are Basically Good. White is right!
3. Do not think for yourself. See the world through a White lens. Never let anything you read in the Bible or a history book ever let you doubt that White is right. After all, when have White people ever been wrong about something?
4. Mouth the right words. Say you are against racism, that you are for equality, but oppose any policy that might help to achieve it, like affirmative action or reparations.
5. Say you do not see colour – but
- live in a White neighbourhood,
- go to a White church,
- read only White books,
- watch only White television,
- learn only White history,
- have mostly White friends,
- marry only White (or East Asian),
- send your children only to White schools.
In short, live in a White Bubble and call it the world.
6. Be morally blind. It is so much easier than being moral and seems just as good. Instead of facing up to the wrong that you or other White people have done, now or in the past, just
- be wilfully obtuse,
- be clueless,
- say “everyone does it”,
- say “get over it”,
- say “it was too long ago”,
- make it about your feelings,
- cry,
- change the subject,
- blame the victim,
- blame the times,
because, no matter what, as a good White person you must:
7. Maintain the false front of White virtue and innocence. Therefore do not look at history or the world honestly. Instead, make Whites the good guys and make those they have wronged into the bad guys, into savages and bandits and terrorists and thugs and welfare cheats.
8. Give fake apologies. Make it about the other person being oversensitive. It is always the other person who needs to change, not you.
9. Look down on those who are different. There must be something wrong with them. Talk down to them.
10. Lack empathy. Never ever put yourself in the shoes of someone who is not White. Do not take what they say seriously. Use Mock Ebonics. Use Mock Spanish. Tell racist jokes. Ha ha. Practise microaggressions. It is not as if they were Real People or something.
12. Remember only one Martin Luther King quote. This is the one:
“I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”
13. Be less racist than your uncle. Or your grandmother. Or at least the Klan. If you are less racist than the Klan, then you cannot be racist – it is all or nothing. If you have a Black Friend, then you are safe.
See also:
13. ….”or married black” (double immunity) no one would expect you to have a racist bone in your body. *end sarcasm*
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Good Post!
Points 5, 6, 10 & 13 are my favorites.
You hit the nail on the head with number 13 – “..it’s either all or nothing.”
Honorable mention to 11 – White proverbs:
example, “You’re not like those other Black people. In fact, I don’t see you as Black at all.” (Because I don’t see color.) Yeah, right!!
-eye roll-
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They gonna get you for revealing their secrets to living a willfully ignorant life.
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You could change all this to “How to be a good black person” and it would still be as valid. I don’t know why you think any of this is unique to whites.
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Honest, man, are telling me that if I fail to support and justify the depredations visited upon me personally as a person of non-color who grew up under conditions of poverty under the Affirmative Action or Disparate Impact system that I am a racist? That I participate in a religious assembly largely with people of my own color makes me a racist? That I think the reparations concept should be rejected makes me a racist? What is this, Stalinism? Isn’t it enough to support effective outreach in education and employment? Enough to recognize and advocate the idea that one thing black American society needs is some millions of semi-skilled jobs for all of the people who have limited educations, erratic work records or none at all, criminal conviction records and histories of alcoholism and addiction? Or do I, in order to prove my merit, have to submit to depredations which really have nothing to with the essential matter of outreach and inclusion onj any level of the workforce?
I call this Stalinism, because the intent of these tests and hurdles is to identify and eliminate people who will fail to support or who will at least fail to not mount any oppositions to other and less directly relevant parts of a Marxist-influenced agenda. This is not an abstract idea. Alexander Solzhenitsyn was identified as a potential dissident based on one sentence in a letter he sent home from the front when he was serving as a lieutenant in the Red Army during World War II, what the Soviets called The Great Patriotic War. Pretty clever, those Stalinists. And pretty clever, our Stalinists too. Through the Affirmative Action System, Soviet intelligence through it influence over western leftists managed to eliminate from American graduate and professional education and many occupations a large cohort of people who, though they might support a labor oriented agenda of national development, would hold what might be termed “realistic” views on American national security. I could make a case that the Affirmative Action system even eliminated black men inclined to take the same nationalist stance.
Throughout every era of American history, the extant racial system has been the system, period. The system which defines the identity and life of every individual living under it. The racial system has been and remain the definer and the very name era itself. During the lifetimes of people alive today, we have gone from Jim Crow, legal segregation and separate but equal to a brief “equality” era to the Affirmative Action or Disparate Impact era. My argument is that the equality concept was working. Not that there was equality, but that as an overarching concept it brought with it the potential for social stability and out of that individual mental stability and the reduction of the social pathology that comes with that. The Affirmative Action system, insofar as it reached beyond the actual reforms necessary to bring about outreach and inclusion, was a Marxist Popular Front vanguard movement intended to create certain forms of social breakdown in the name of advancing the “movement” or in formal thought and terminology the dialectic.
From my point of view, what we call the Fall of Communism was no such thing. It was merely a change in doctrine on the part of the world communist movement. As I told a friend of mine at the time, “Don’t worry. Here in the West our own communists are still firmly in charge.” The world Marxist movement is an astoundingly resilient and clever entity. These are people who study power, what it is, how to get, how to use it, how to advance the cause of their movement under all conditions. If you are one, you are. If you are not one, don’t be a dupe. Because to these people, support of populist and emergent movements is no more than a tactic. If you really have to know, upper middle class white liberals elitists are to them the most important part of their vanguard. Everyone else is just so much cannon fodder. Especially minority youth.
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Though I don’t consider myself a racist person, at least most of the times, as a tri-racial person I sadly have to agree that whites per se, especially the American version, maintain a superior and better-than-thou attitude towards non-white races. But what really gets to me is the overwhelming support whites get from blacks and especially East Asians. My wife is a Filipina. We’ve been married for 25 years; though we love each other very much we get into some knock down fights over the issue of race. She thinks and her ENTIRE FAMILY think that racism in America is an over exaggeration of facts…a figment of my imagination something I made up. The level of denial among my East Asian relatives is appalling! As a former African American History teacher this sad commentary breaks my heart for so many degreed professionals who don’t know shit. They even whiten their skin in order to look white! What’s up with that?
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Lots of good analysis of power dynamics, including abuse by people of color in academia and with other types of institutional backing on people of color unaffiliated with institutions, today on #decolonizeSAAM
I know I’ve seen this kind of abuse time and again in my life.
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@ Fred
” They even whiten their skin in order to look white! What’s up with that?”
>Go ask Sammy Sosa!
“She thinks and her ENTIRE FAMILY think that racism in America is an over exaggeration of facts…a figment of my imagination something I made up. The level of denial among my East Asian relatives is appalling!”
>It’s easy to exhort that racism isn’t that bad, when you’re not the one held on the lowest rung of the racial hierarchy ladder.
>Tell your wife and her family they should do what doubtful (white/Jewish) Joshua Solomon of Silver Spring, MD did – when his Black friends told him what was up – become a Black person to find out first hand what THE EXPERIENCE of living as a Black person in the U.S. is truly like.
“But what really gets to me is the overwhelming support whites get from blacks…”
>Welcome to the club!
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I started laughing so hard at this post that tears started coming from my eyes. If ever there was an anthropological study of white people in America, this post could be your cheat sheet.
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@kdyounger
So other than making you laugh, what is the purpose of this article and articles like it? How does it improve race relations?
All this will do is make whites stop listening to you.
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@AlanDavis – whites are not listening to us anyway. And…we don’t care.
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@ Anonymike
The post says:
Emphasis mine. The key words here are ANY and LIKE. The LIKE means affirmative action and reparations are just examples. Clearly someone can oppose, say, reparations in good faith and still support other policies they think will work better in making the US less racist. A Good White Person, on the other hand, will always find some reason to object to any such policy
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@dorisjean23
Just because whites don’t agree with what you’re saying, doesn’t mean they weren’t listening.
And you obviously do care, since you’re whining about it all the time.
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Abagond: Read what I said very carefully. I never said there should not have been outreach or should not be. What I said was that under the Affirmative Action or Disparate Impact system there were specific depredations, sanctions against whites if you will, that need not have been there for the processes of outreach and inclusion to have been implemented. The term Affirmative Action is not simply a cognomen for outreach and inclusion. The Affirmative Action system is the comprehensive system of American life in this era. If one opposes a major element of it, it does not mean that one are opposes outreach and inclusion. It means that one opposes the metaphysic of nit as demonstrated through its concrete applications.
One example of a depredation would be the 1971 Supreme Court decision Griggs v. Duke Power. This decision banned general aptitude test in employment. That this decision was promulgated closed the door to entry level employment to many college graduates particularly. It led to many ongoing impacts and the exacerbation of the preference for elite university graduates.
These impacts fall primarily on whites from relatively disadvantaged backgrounds, but can fall on other people too. As in and for example, men in the ghetto who have acquired skills along the way but have no concrete proof of having them. Another factor is that employers have to draw up extremely rigid and inflexible hiring criteria for all applicants in order to defend themselves against potential civil rights actions. Then, they can be relaxed but only for minority applicants. Apparently, not only was aptitude testing banned, but so was the concept of aptitude itself.
Affirmative Action does not mean what it seems like it means. If you oppose any major element of the Affirmative Action system, then you have to oppose the entirety of the system and consider that a replacement system has rto be designed and implemented. Think it over carefully. You might find some part of the system you, yourself, oppose. Meanwhile, I’m not a straw man. I’ve walked the walk. I’ve lived what I’ve talked about.
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Great post and on point. The truth hurts.
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“How does it improve race relations?”
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This site isn’t here to improve race relations, dumkoff!
This site serves (in part) as a place of validation, verification and vindication of our oppressed experiences in a world run mainly by evil racist idiots!
“All this will do is make whites stop listening to you.”
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We’ve been telling WHITES the same thing for 400 years. I don’t think too many of us are concerned at this point whether you’re listening, or not. We’re minding our own business here talking to ourselves. Why are you here? It’s certainly not to improve – as you say it, “race relations.”
You really are a big dummy! smh
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@AlanDavis , well if all you hear is a whine, then you are obviously not listening.
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@dorisjean32
A whine is all it is. Why are you people even in America if you think it’s so bad?
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This is excellent!
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Good job Abagond.
What’s even more hilarious is that your new racist Id’iot Troll AlanDavis doesn’t seem to realize that He was the inspiration behind your post
because since he has been here on your blog, he has been the poster child of almost all your points. He is just like all the other racist Trolls that have come before him:
He is annoying and thinks he is the first white person to come on this blog, sprouting ignorant racist drivel, that he thinks is Knowledge and New. (same BS, different day, Alan)
He doesn’t realize that Abagond’s Blog– for YEARS– has been race realist, racist Troll central, where all the racist Trolls come to say the same EXACT things and exhibit the same EXACT behavior that AlanDavis is displaying… nothing new or extraordinary
Broken Record and same old sorry a’s white tears! White boys only have balls on line
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@Linda
I’ve been going over some of the old articles on this blog, and the same stuff keeps getting posted over and over. Whining about how whites don’t listen or say non-whites are being over-sensitive is nothing new.
How’s your boy Mike Brown doing by the way? Is he still begging for his life? You’re a race of cowards who only attack in packs or prey on unsuspecting victims. I’m sure it takes great bravery to play the knockout game.
I enjoyed your black tears when Zimmerman and Wilson were freed anyway.
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@Kiwi
I don’t hate blacks. They’re not significant enough to be worthy of my hate, and it’s narcissistic of them to think otherwise. I’m here to help them, but apparently they’re unwilling to listen. The true racists have revealed themselves.
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Hahahaha!!
At least be honest with yourself about your motives.
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@King
My motive is to help you. The blacks are a fallen race, and only by listening to whites and following their advice can they ever be saved. It’s just unfortunate they’re too blind and stubborn to realize this.
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Hahahahaha! King, you rule! 😀
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“The blacks are a fallen race, and only by listening to whites and following their advice can they ever be saved.”
OK… I’m convinced he’s obviously a TOTAL troll.
Enough said.
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Haha! Message receive Leigh! haha! Nice troll pic!
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@King
What’s your point with these pictures? Are you really trying to compare the police just doing their job and dealing with thugs who were resisting arrest, to cowards who attack innocent, vulnerable people for no reason?
What is it with blacks and their false equivalencies?
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Yeah, the good white people say all the right things, but when it comes down to it, actions speak louder than words.
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@dorisjean23
Love it!
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@ King:
Thanks, King! I try. 😀
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@AlanDavis
“They’re not significant enough to be worthy of my hate, and it’s narcissistic of them to think otherwise.”—But they are significant enough for you to obsess over? Which every post you have made has been a clear indication of.
First Obama and his every word and now blacks??? Hmmm….
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@abagond you should add AlanDavis’ “replace white with black” line to your list of white proverbs. I’ve lost count of how many times its been used.
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@AlanDavis:
“I don’t hate blacks. They’re not significant enough…”
Racist.
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@AlanDavis:
How does you going and saying blacks “aren’t significant enough” help to improve race relations? How does this:
“improve race relations”?
Also, if Affirmative Action is oh so oppressive as you say it is and keeps the jobs out of the hands of Whites, why are Whites still turning in more income than Blacks? Obviously more of them are still getting good jobs, despite this “oppressive” Affirmative Action system.
And how do you address the following argument?: If we had an EQUAL system, where Blacks were full equals of Whites, you would have to then compete fully with them for jobs … even though there was no affirmative action in such a world! If affirmative action takes away jobs, so would equality, by the same logic. Which would therefore only mean we could conclude one thing: you don’t want equality.
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“alanDavis @ Whining about how whites don’t listen or say non-whites are being over-sensitive is nothing new.
I enjoyed your black tears when Zimmerman and Wilson were freed anyway.”
Linda says,
The funny thing with white racist trolls is that they think anyone who calls them out for being the dumb POS that they are –has to be black
Do you really think that other people are blind to white America’s BS
Here is a statement from a man that I’ve always liked:
“It seems to me hilarious that our government put the face of Elvis Presley on a postage stamp after he died from an overdose of drugs. His fans don’t mention that because they don’t want to give up their myths. They ignore the fact that he was a drug addict and claim he invented rock ‘n’ roll when in fact he took it from black culture; they had been singing that way for years before he came along, copied them and became a star.”
– Marlon Brando
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Interesting. It appears my ancestors here in Europe were right when they ordered their annoying, idiotic neighbours to take the boat to America.
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AlanDavis:
You’re a race of cowards who only attack in packs or prey on unsuspecting victims. I’m sure it takes great bravery to play the knockout game.
I don’t hate whites. They’re not significant enough to be worthy of my hate, and it’s narcissistic of them to think otherwise. I’m here to help them, but apparently they’re unwilling to listen. The true racists have revealed themselves.
The whites are a fallen race, and only by listening to PoC and following their advice can they ever be saved.”
By replacing white with black, how does that read to you? You say your motivation is to help – how, by taking the higher moral ground? Your posts are pretty subjective.
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Writing on the chalk board 100 times Alan Davis Is A BIG DUMMY
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“By replacing white with black, how does that read to you? You say your motivation is to help – how, by taking the higher moral ground? Your posts are pretty subjective.”
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I have to ask, everyone, (me too) why are we talking to this idiot as if he is sane, logical or reasonable? Obviously this sick fool is thriving from the needed attention we’re giving him… That’s what he’s here for, ATTENTION.
He clearly won’t and can’t hear/see anything we’re presenting to him – like those of his ilk. So why do we bother?
He’s an enemy full of empty idiotic racist rhetoric that’s been dispelled countless times before.
Or, do we need a scapegoat to pile the sins of whiteness upon,,, and he’s the scapegoat?
We cannot win any argument with the deranged and inane.
So what exactly are we doing with this imbecile who could not recognize TRUTH if it was plainly written on face?
I imagine that this is exactly what arguing with the devil would look like.
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@Just Me: You are right we shouldn’t be feeding the trolls it ‘s quite obvious he is “Thirsty” for attention.
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@Just Me: I love “We cannot win an argument with the deranged and inane” That is true. It is quite futile.
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@Leigh
Oh! That was a good one! Lol
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@Just Me:
I think, in part he’s a scapegoat of course (He has clearly made himself one). But there is also more to it than that. Sure, there are trolls that drop into a blog and set off a fire cracker and if nobody runs out in panic, then they will move on to the next space. But that is not ALWAYS the kind of troll you are dealing with, and you need to understand that every troll is not the same nor motivated by the exact same pop psychology.
Sometimes a troll will come in and figuratively, lay a turd in the middle of your living room. And you can respond by saying, “Just ignore the turd! Don’t mention it! Don’t acknowledge that the turd is there!” BUT IT IS there! And the troll will come back and do it again, and again, until your whole house stinks because you refuse to deal with the turds that have been deposited there. When other people come over, they just see a pile of turds on the floor that no one has dealt with, and assume that YOU like it that way, since you haven’t dealt with them.
I’m not saying that it’s fruitful to have long heart-wrending discussions with Alan, because he’s obviously a HUGE TROLL. But neither am I going to let him respond to every other post by laying a turd in it without at least ridiculing what he is saying. I have been on a lot of blogs and message boards throughout the years, and I have NEVER seen a determined troll rebuffed by simply not challenging or engaging his nonsense in some way. People don’t necessarily need attention in the form of interaction. Many would be just fine with eternally dropping manifestos of hate on anything they disagree with.
So I’m afraid that I agree more with Herneith on this one. Ridicule and making a fool of a troll is far more effective than silence and hoping he will leave.
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@ sharinalr
^ IKR? I want to know where I can get copies of that certificate. There are certain white people in mind I need to give this to.
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@leigh204: That certificate is awesome love that.
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And some trolls are paid not to leave.
http://news.yahoo.com/trolling-putin-russias-information-war-explained-063716887.html
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“Sure, there are trolls that drop into a blog and set off a fire cracker and if nobody runs out in panic, then they will move on to the next space. But that is not ALWAYS the kind of troll you are dealing with, and you need to understand that every troll is not the same nor motivated by the exact same pop psychology.”
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KING,
How would you (we) know “the kind of troll” we’re dealing with here? We haven’t attempted to ignore his discourtesies and affronts long enough to find out.
Trolls tend to stay when they’re being fed. So why feed it?
With your reasoning, you (we) could very well spend the remaining days of our lives responding to every racist idiot (there’s far more of them than us) waiting in the wings to come here and drop another baseless insult, because what, you (we) need to ridicule each and every entity that decides to drop turds here?
Ghastly ghosts don’t deserve to have their posts read (or their turds seen/smelled) so ignore the ghost. It’s enough to know that he inspired Abagond to write another honest post. He served his (show & tell) purpose.
We should all know by now that hard core racists are always going to believe whatever – no matter what!
The troll saying ridiculous things is Self-Ridicule. He’s ridiculing himself. When we try to ridicule or reason with the unreasonable, we’ve effectively come down to his level where he can beat us (you) with his stupidity (or his experience). He will never admit anything, but he will forever have another lie to tell.
The bottom line is this; we (you and I) can agree to disagree.
We’re all free to engage whomever we will.
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@ Just me
I think it depends on how you see discussion forums.
Now for me, I draw limits to *the way* that I respond to a troll. In other words, I’m not going to try and convince him of anything. I’m just going to ridicule and laugh at his nonsense. There is a difference in how I respond to someone who I think is seriously open to debate, and someone who I believe is just fishing for angry reactions.
But trolls are often saying things that many other people truly believe. They are often compendiums of racist ideas and attitudes they have picked up from all across the web. In such cases, I may take on their argument—not because of the worth of the arguer—but because the argument itself is worth rebutting.
Also the idea that “This as already been answered before” does not phase me, because new people with new ideas often answer issues quite differently. I have very often learned much from people who took on something that had “already been answered” by one person, only to gain new insights by a totally new explanation from someone else! Even the same person may evolve and come up with something new and interesting, that I hadn’t brought of before.
So you see, you look at these discussions as having value only based on whether or not we can win an argument with the troll. I see them more as a place to hear new takes on defeating racist ideology; practice taking on popular racist ideas; and better clarify my own thoughts. Also, I have been pointed to an amazing volume of articles, links, and sites that have proved to be invaluable resources that I have come across only because someone was arguing with a “troll.”
I wish it was that simple, but it clearly isn’t. Sometimes a troll will be so outlandish that he will play himself. But often he’s just bringing up things that sound like they make sense until they are SHOWN to be ridiculous. The web of White Supremacy is not woven without subtlety or clever guile. It takes time and effort to unwind many things that are said about Blacks and other POC before it becomes clear that they are erroneous.
I never truly understood how Detroit was being used as an example of Black failure to manage a city until an old troll pushed me into researching it only to discover that it was in reality a White failure being repackaged so as to shift the blame. But I would never have understood the intricacies of it if I hadn’t gotten involved in that debate.
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@ Just Me
Thanks for understanding. My family are some of the nicest people on earth except for one thing, they refuse to acknowledge that racism is a living reality in America; like I mentioned a few days ago when you read my email. I just shared a wonderful Easter Sunday brunch on them. I love East Asian family very much but they must get their heads out the ******* sand regarding race relations in America!
Another that really gets my goat…most of my family are young adults (I’m 70.)who don’t, nor could care less, about History. Some of their over-educated friends have told me “I really don’t care about the past nor do I want to hear about it.” Dr. King, the Long March, Slavery, the world wars, Industrial strikes-NOT INTERESTED! I just can’t feature that.
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“@dorisjean32
A whine is all it is. Why are you people even in America if you think it’s so bad?”
Lol
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@ Fred
“Some of their over-educated friends have told me “I really don’t care about the past nor do I want to hear about it.” Dr. King, the Long March, Slavery, the world wars, Industrial strikes-NOT INTERESTED! I just can’t feature that.”
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Their loss…. though I wonder what they’ll say to their children when they come to them with questions looking for answers.
@ King
example
Racist Troll: All black people are n*ggas and all n*ggas are ______!
gang-bangers, lazy, dumb, loose fill in the blank however you may.
Response: {{What this troll just said is NOT original, (it never is) is so profoundly stupidly unbelievable that only the profoundly unbelievably stupid would believe or say such a thing. He’s (They’re) not even worth my time and limited energy to bother answering his ludicrous accusation.}}
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“Also, I have been pointed to an amazing volume of articles, links, and sites that have proved to be invaluable resources that I have come across only because someone was arguing with a “troll.””
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That’s like saying you need to step in nasty dog poop (or worse) so as to better understand the construction of your Nikes or Addidas or Reeboks shoes. It’s also on par with saying you need to go into a sewer to understand how a sewer works.
If TROLLS enhance or motivate your scholarship then bravo.
But plenty of people aren’t going to welcome you and your sh*tty shoes when you ring their doorbell because you love to attract vermin and TROLLS everywhere you go. You begin to smell like the troll that’s attached to you.
Different strokes … we each decide how we budget our own time.
Anyway, enjoy yourself ..
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…But the best way to understand a sewer actual IS to go into it! Anyone who knows about sewers will tell you that you can’t just assume you know them from what you’ve read in books. Similarly, a car mechanic must get his hands oily working on cars. That is part of truly knowing and excelling at anything. You can’t be afraid to get a little shit on your shoes if you expect to be good at something.
Pointing out the faulty logic of a troll has nothing to do with transferring smells. It does however help you consolidate and formulate ideas. And does opposition motivate scholarship? Should I quote the many times historically when it has done exactly that? (Think the race to the Moon / Soviets vs. United States.)
You certainly have the right to your opinions, I just disagree with this one. I cannot see any logic in it. I’m not saying that every singe attack requires a response, but in my book, some clearly do. I think that once you start assigning “trolls” and avoiding certain arguments you might as well just change the comment section to a “cheer section.” In my opinion even a troll can bring an argument that might be enlightening to examine.
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@Alan Davis
Fcking big LOL. You’re looking in the wrong place for an improvement in “race relations”.
Also, you are missing out on a serious career as a clown.
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@Kiwi, nobody is perfect and that’s a role he had to take back when he wasn’t well off to pay the bills. You see back in the black & white picture days not that many movies nor ones being written were available as today…
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My motive is to help you.
This is rich, hahahahaha!!!
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@Kiwi,
Here I mostly agree with you.
Brando is a good example of the two-faced attitude from otherwise liberal-minded white men.
I remember when he did not go to receive his Oscar in person to complain about how Native Americans are represented in Hollywood cinema. And as Linda pointed out above, he pointed out how hypocritical US society is about recognizing American cultural contributions by blacks v. whites.
Yet, he went ahead and perpetuated Hollywood racist stereotypes about Asians In fact, in another movie, “The Teahouse of the August Moon “, he did yellowface to portray an Okinawan.
It reflects something that happened before and after WWII
– Anna May Wong was not allowed to play a romantic role on the screen, especially opposite a white man BEFORE WWII
– After WWII, white men felt they “owned” Asian women and the image of Asian men, even playing Asian men in Yellow face.
(The only possible challenge to this idea I can think of is James Shigeta, and he DOES deserve a post himself.)
Brando’s movies were lauded as breaking down the prejudice towards Asian-white interracial relationships. But in effect, together with other period films like “The World of Suzie Wong”, they promoted other stereotypes which led to the situation we are facing today – a new stereotype to replace the old ones.
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@jefe
All stereotypes have a basis in truth. Besides, it’s not the white man’s fault Asian women worship us.
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@Kiwi
There’s some truth in it.
Notice how you are allowed to say that, but if I was to say African Americans are stupid and lazy, all hell would break lose.
That’s what we call black privilege.
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AlanDavis:
“The blacks are a fallen race, and only by listening to whites and following their advice can they ever be saved.”
And according to this guy, who is to blame
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-1AH6r-N-8)
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@Omnipresent
Is that guy’s boyfriend black or something?
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@AlanDavis
Why are you complaining about this blog and blacks so much?
A whine is all it is. Why are you people even in America if you think it’s so bad? Since you hate blacks, why not move to Iceland instead of staying in a country where blacks have always been, with a black president and attorney general, and with so much black culture?
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@ resw77 🙂
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Could this Alan Davis troll be Todd Kincannon who just beat up his wife and bullied anyone who doesn’t bow down to his ideology?
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Here’s the link:
http://httpjournalsaolcomjenjer6steph.blogspot.com/2015/04/Republican-internet-troll-todd-kincannon-slaps-wife.html
SB
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As for Alan Davis, he needs to go back to Heartiste/Freerepublic blogsite where he belong!
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Another thing Alan,
We don’t need your advise on anything. We can take care of ourselves. Thank you.
SB
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AlanDavis
Is that guy’s boyfriend black or something?
Why, you jealous?
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A whine is all it is
How about some cheese to go with that whinge?
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I’ll be amazed if this comment makes it onto these pages, but I must add:
“Adopt any and every ‘damaged’ non-white child you can; after all, those savages refuse to look after their own!”
Black people are prevented from adopting their own family members under the best circumstances, whilst whites who have numerous DHS / DCFS (or insert your local ‘humanitarian’ office anagram here) reports against them are allowed to continue their sadism and abuse on their own (or other) children.
It’s another, little-mentioned article amongst the “white saviours” who claim that they can raise non-white children better than they can rear their own. An hilarious accusation coming from the same people who had to hire non-white “wet-nurses” in a vain attempt to minimize the ‘horrors’ of childbirth!
*dances through the room, moving on to other topics elsewhere*
😉
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“Just Me,
I have to ask, everyone, (me too) why are we talking to this idiot as if he is sane, logical or reasonable? Obviously this sick fool is thriving from the needed attention we’re giving him… That’s what he’s here for, ATTENTION.”
Linda says,
Just Me, you are absolutely correct that typically, idiot trolls should be ignored
Thwack was your typical troll trying to stir up trouble while he amused himself.
For professional trolls like AlanDavis, it’s not just a “I hate black people” rant, he giggles, and he moves on.. he has an Agenda
this type of “Troll” cannot be reasoned with because part of his goal is to take over, taint, and control the narrative about black and brown people, non-whites
As long as Abagond leaves AlanDavis words online for everyone to read, Alan has done his job — it’s all about having his message seen, he could care less about being heard.
He is a white Nationalist–think Aryan Nation, new Nazi party, organizations that masquerade as “conservatives”
if you actually go to on their websites and read their mission statements, you will see that it is a part of their mission to take over and Control the narrative using Internet Media.
http://conservative-headlines.com/introduction/
http://conservative-headlines.com/2015/02/write-for-this-website/
“We want to publish a reminder that this website accepts submissions. Send us your original article or column for consideration.
We receive over 10,000 unique human visitors per day. Our all time record is 196k visitor in February of 2014. Our traffic is highly targeted. On most days, over 90% of all visitors are from the USA.
Everything published on this website is automatically promoted on a built in network that includes Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Google+, and other sites.
Opinion based columns are accepted.”
As people of colour, we HAVE to stay vigilant to stop these racist from taking over and twisting the Narrative online because they are succeeding
Usual I ignore idiot trolls but white Nationalist are in a different category and I personally feel that I cannot afford to let their message sit online too long without a counter
Race is not a joke to these white Pieces Of Sh’t because they truly feel that their way of life is threatened
they are serious about their Anti-blackness, and the negative crap that they drop here and elsewhere online is not random — is a targeted attack.
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I noticed when whites adopt black children they never know how to groom the children properly.
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@ Linda
“As long as Abagond leaves AlanDavis words online for everyone to read, Alan has done his job — it’s all about having his message seen, he could care less about being heard.
He is a white Nationalist–think Aryan Nation, new Nazi party, organizations that masquerade as “conservatives”
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I wholeheartedly agree! The Nationalist intent is to spread their sickening message like a infectious disease gone viral in the hope that it will take root in other weak-thinking, auto immune compromised individuals that will accept and spread this putrid poisonous garbage (white supremacy).
Like you, I’m also wondering why Abagond would leave his filthy crap intact for others to see, and come in contact with.
I do not agree with his summation that ALL trolls should be tolerated so that their message (HATE – WHITE SUPERIORITY) can be first showcased and then refuted.
(Again, and again, and again …..)
It’s his blog, though… he gets to run it as he sees fit.
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Justme
I have mixed feelings about letting people like AlanDavies posts stay on the blog. My overriding thought though is that passivity is at an all time hi gh and people will only react to what they see/hear. So many people think that we live in a tolerant society and when people like this clown rear their head, it reminds people that there is not the balance and equilibrium they have deceived themselves exists.
As long as people like your good selves put the cr@p to bed that is posted on here by people of this ilk then good sense and judgement should lead the way. But yes, I get it. it is exhausting, mind numbing etc to have to repeat
Either that or they get sent direct to the broken records post and have access to this part of the blog only but don’t know how that would work in practice
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Its always encouraging to hear and see ordinary white American Joes waking up to the delusions and denials of living in a white supremacist society. But this is precisely what “Dixe Honkey”has done in video and interview via social media…
http://thebenjamindixonshow.com/redneck-dixie-honkey-explains-white-fear-greed-drives-white-supremacy/
The truth seems more palatable (to white people) when other ordinary white people can express it..
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Kwamla:
Snap! Its the same guy from the link I uploaded.
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“Just Me,
The Nationalist intent is to spread their sickening message like a infectious disease gone viral in the hope that it will take root in other weak-thinking, auto immune compromised individuals that will accept and spread this putrid poisonous garbage (white supremacy).”
Linda says,
and their poison has already infected society… that’s what happened to Trayvon Martin’s narrative.
He went from being a typical kid that was killed by a stranger, to being a “strong, grown man” who attacked poor, weakling George Zimmerman – overnight, Trayvon became an Adult and George became a helpless child.
that was part of the white racist National agenda, it was an intentional smear job
you notice how they drove the online narrative. They appeared like bugs, all singing the same song, doing their best to assassinate Trayvons’ character
and white people, like those dumb b’s on the jury bought the story that they read online, hook, line and sinker– setting a murderer free.
(I bet if Zimmerman was black or a darker Latino, his a’s would have been in jail — white Nationalists only got involved because the media initially called George “white”)
Notice all the negative comments online whenever a news story features a black person, especially black men–the word “thug” appears like a bright light
it is the professional racists who come out to drive the narrative and the everyday Biff and Becky drinks the kool-aide.
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“The truth seems more palatable (to white people) when other ordinary white people can express it..”
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@ Kwamla
We can replace “…when other ORDINARY white people…”
with
“….when ANY other white people …”
After all, (anyone) white is always right.
Why?
The TRUTH when told by white people is more palatable because – according to Black law professor D. Bell’s FIRST RULE of Racial Standing, which goes something like this:
“Black people are denied the respect, dignity and belief (that is automatically granted to white people by default) in the world generally when they discuss their negative experiences with racism or even when they attempt to give a positive evaluation of another black person or of his work. No matter what their experience or expertise, blacks’ statements involving race are deemed unfavorable evidence – even if it’s the truth – (special pleading) and thus not entitled to serious consideration.
That’s nice for whiteness. Isn’t it? {sarcasm}
Whites will just categorically deny and dismiss it automatically, because a Black person said it.
But let a Black person say anything that whites want to hear, then that’s good, and whites are on-board with that, like white on paper. That’s the only Black testimony that has merit – whatever it is that THEY WANT to hear.
smdh
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@Linda
“For professional trolls like AlanDavis, it’s not just a “I hate black people” rant, he giggles, and he moves on.. ”
I don’t think it’s about fun for him.
I think his agenda was to try to convince us that white people are not the only ones who have ever done wrong or are guilty. He wanted to share his guilt with us, and when I pointed that out to him, he got upset. IMO, he genuinely wanted us to see whites as positively as every other Uncle Tom or Uncle Wong, and because we refused, he resorted to black bashing and the timeless “If you don’t like America then leave” out of frustration.
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I read the above comments. That AlanDavis guy stunk up the forum for a while, but thanks to King’s air-freshening replies our commentary forum is back to its fragrant self – at least for now. Another troll will try to stink it up again – but no worries because many of us are well-equipped with air-fresheners.
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@ Michael Cooper
A little deodorant from time to time is a good thing, eh? 🙂
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Dix Honey is all over the internet. i have seen this video on several blog sites
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@ King
“A little deodorant from time to time is a good thing, eh?”
Yes sir!! Trolls, like AlanDavis, need to take heed to that type of hip-science.
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@King,
I want to say thanks too for help clearing the air here.
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@Just Me
But that happens everywhere, by every minority.
Bernie Madoff could easily swindle other jews and jewish charities, because he was “one of them.”
I know of a black blogger, who commented on the Cosby-case “Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?”
At least, until black top model Beverly Johnson told the same story as all the white women did before her. Only then the blogger began to accept the accusations as believable.
Summarized: people tend to accept more from others who are closer to them in appearance, viewpoints, etc.
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@ Jeff Elberfeld
“But that happens everywhere, by every minority.”
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{SMH…here we go with the ‘everyone does it’, argument}
Perhaps, yet it is still an overly common and glaring practice (as an unwritten law) that whites practice with impunity (/inordinately) against Black people. In my above comment, I rewrote Bell’s first law in my own words to better make my point.
Perhaps it would be much clearer to you if you read his direct quote:
“The law grants litigants standing to come into court based on their having sufficient personal interest and involvement in the issue to justify judicial cognizance. Black people (while they may be able to get into court) are denied such standing legitimacy in the world generally when they discuss their negative experiences with racism or even when they attempt to give a positive evaluation of another black person or of his work. No matter what their experience or expertise, blacks’ statements involving race are deemed “special pleading” and thus not entitled to serious consideration.”
That this may happen to other so-called minorities does not negate the problem that it happens more to Black people in a consistent and systemic fashion that began 400 years ago when we were brought here in chains. It is another tool that whiteness employs to continually suppress and oppress Black people.
The esteemed law professor perfectly constructed these 5 rules on racial standing. Unfortunately, sadly, they pertain more to Black people than they do to anyone else.
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@Cooper, there’s something about using a blog constructively to cope and heal but I’ve seen your profile and you seem to take things into the self-destructive line of thought. Especially your video links of what a ‘loser’ and what a ‘black’ man is. Snoop makes $17 million a year and used what he experienced to better himself in an art form…. Funny thing is I have a Klan neighbor the last name ‘Cooper’ as well. Maybe ya’ll related…
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I did a post on Bell’s Five Rules of Racial Standing:
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If Whites do something good, like freeing slaves, it proves how wonderful they are. If they do something bad, like enslaving people, it proves nothing because “everyone does it!”
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@Abagond,
I’ve read that article. It was kinda fun.
If I replace ‘blacks’ with ‘Democrats’, ‘whites’ with ‘Republicans’ and ‘Uncle Tom’ with Joe Lieberman we get the official Fox News-policy. ,
If I replace ‘blacks’ with ‘dad’s family’ and ‘whites’ with ‘mom’s family’ we get how my dad experiences birthday-parties.
And if I just swap ‘whites’ and ‘blacks,’ I got the ‘since you are white, it is impossible that you can understand how it feels to be black’-argument.
That said: this does not deny that sadly, as Just Me says:, these rules pertain more to Black people than they do to anyone else.
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@ Jeff
It must be nice to be able to make light of it. Unlike the Republicans and Democrats and, in most cases, mom’s family and dad’s family, there is a HUGE power imbalance between Blacks and Whites in the US. Whites, in effect, control the courts and the media, so to say “it goes both ways” is profoundly disingenuous.
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Hey Aba,
Don’t fault Jeff. He’s simply being a really good white person, doing what all good white people do, exactly as depicted in your post, right Jeff??
LOL
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@abagond
They also control 96% of all large US corporations, which affects hiring, and 97% of all US banks, which affects loan approvals. No wonder equally qualified blacks are less likely than their white counterparts to get jobs and loans.
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” No wonder equally qualified blacks are less likely than their white counterparts to get jobs and loans.”
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Equally qualified…?
Don’t forget the study that showed white males with criminal records are more likely to receive employment call-backs than Black men without a criminal history! With that glaring prejudicial bias built into the racist system, “equally qualified” still means overtly racially disadvantaged/marginalized.
To hear some GOOD white people (and folks like Clarence Thomas) tell it, Affirmative Action has caused many qualified white individuals to be unjustly set out to pasture because some imaginary quota system UNFAIRLY ended their livelihood in favor of hiring an unqualified black/brown person. They say this is REVERSE RACISM in spite of AA actually benefiting more white people (white women) than it benefits anyone else. Whites even vote against it because they perceived AA as a program that assists mainly Blacks more than it does them.
Bizzaro world indeed!
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@Abagond
“Unlike the Republicans and Democrats and, in most cases, mom’s family and dad’s family, there is a HUGE power imbalance between Blacks and Whites in the US.”
Indeed. That is why I ended with agreeing with Just Me’s statement that “..this does not deny that these rules pertain more to Black people than they do to anyone else.”
And concerning the “making light of it”-part: sometimes a good/grim sense of humor can make the unbearable bearable. Like me, when I, when asked about girls, answered: “I used to have short term relationships.”
Or policemen, when finding a corpse with a slit throat, asking “Anybody got some tape?”
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@Just Me
Don’t fault Jeff. He’s simply being a really good white person, doing what all good white people do, exactly as depicted in your post, right Jeff??
Just for the record: you weren’t serious on this, were you?
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“Just for the record: you weren’t serious on this, were you?”
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Jeff,
Are you suggesting that you are factually a BAD white person?
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Dixie Honkey’s You Tube video hits the nail over the head. I can at least give him some respect for telling the truth. I was on Google + and one moderator on Black Google + said Dixie Honkey said how Facebook removed his videos, and that Dixie Honkey has been receiving death threats. I can imagine he stirred up the color aroused whites who didn’t like what he had to say and exposed them. He said what black people in this country have been saying in regards to white racism for years. But are any of them hearing what he had to say and do self reflection on themselves. Are they measuring his words to see if this really is true and will they make an effort to change their attitudes about how they view black people? I have so many questions about race politics in this country even in the light of have a black President. Since Obama has been elected President i noticed the affinity for guns is high. Social media and comment boards are rife with racist trolls who say such evil and heartless things about black people and other non white people. I don’t believe all white people are evil but a great many are. But when black people point that out they use deflection tactics and say blacks are the racist, that is what is crazy to me. I just hope we can all live together in harmony like on those Coke commercials but i know that’s foolish and hella stupid. But i know this won’t happen in my lifetime.
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My two-year-old daughter Famke would say, when I tell her that she is cute: “I am not Cute. I am Famke.”
Same with me here. Saying that I am a “good white person” or “bad white person” hardly covers the full identity of yours truly. Moreover, I think it would be arrogant to boast that I am good; let me just say that I am trying.
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one of my fb friends shared that dixon white/dixie h*nkey video from youtube but i didn’t feel like listening to bubba from the picture and caption
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Jeff,
This post speaks of being a “good” WHITE American.
Are you one, or do you aspire to be one?
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Nope. I am not American, so I am not one, and I do not want to be one.
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“In short, live in a White Bubble and call it the world.”
This is a profound statement. Whites are the most segregated race. And it is not because America is majority white. White flight sprang from a white desire to live apart from minorities, particularly blacks. Although the average major American city is minority-majority, you will easily find entire neighborhoods, restaurants, businesses and gatherings that are almost entirely white, not to mention suburbs which are exclusively white. And the few minorities present at these gatherings must strictly adhere to white club rules and policies or else they will be outcasted and ostracized.
The average white person would never want to go to a gathering, organization, concert, nightclub, neighborhood or even restaurant or shopping mall where he or she is the only white person present. Especially if that place is majority-black. There might be the exception of a minority-majority area where most people are elderly Asian or Latino immigrants, but even that is a stretch. White people falsely “don’t see race” because they are surrounded by 80%+ white people and a few domesticated token minorities all the time.
White people are so sheltered from non-token minorities that even the most liberal white people will become offended when a POC stands up to white racism. Since whites usually only associate with other whites, they only hear their own point of view.
http://qz.com/302582/self-segregation-why-its-so-hard-for-white-people-to-understand-ferguson/
Also, since whites are so disconnected from the pain of discrimination that POC endure daily, they believe that racism no longer exists which couldn’t be further from the truth. White people think of racism as the KKK and the aggressive in-your-face violent anti-integration white racism of the 1950’s. But America is just as racist as ever. It just so happens that whites no longer need to be aggressively racist on an individual level because institutional racism works so well on a macro-level. Prior to the 60’s, there was no COINTELPRO, crack, heroin, AIDs, tough on crime, Reaganomics or prison industrial complex to oppress a seething angry population of blacks who had been let down after the Civil Rights movement. Controlled immigration from Asia keeps all the dirt poor Asians overseas and the remaining ghettoized Asian populations in places in California are subject to the same population control tactics as similarly situated blacks. Now many rightwing white folks see the growing population of Latinos in America as a threat.
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@SanFranpsycho415
I agree, but what are your takes on black people who have similar mindsets as whites and often protects them and their racism?
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@sharnair
Black segregation from whites is a bi-product of white flight. Blacks had no qualms of living next door to whites or any other race in the 50’s. But whites said “there goes the neighborhood” when more than two black families moved on the block. Blockbusting and redlining created all black neighborhoods. America would have become post-racial if whites didn’t collectively lose their sh!t in the 50’s and 60’s when blacks tried to integrated with whites and fight for equal rights.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYFRzf2Xww)
Blacks dislike whites because of rampant institutional racism that oppresses blacks and uplifts whites which continues to this day. Whites dislike blacks because many white people actually believe black people are inferior because of the long-standing history of white supremacist culture ingrained into this society since its inception. This is the reason why many whites try to reason that inner city areas are violent purely because the people who live there are black. They don’t blame the international drug trade of hard drugs and guns, bad schools, structural unemployment, deindustrialization. No, according to a huge segment of white people, black neighborhoods are “bad” because they people who live there are black and that is considered pathological in itself at some level in their eyes.
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@SanFranpsycho415
I guess I should be more detailed. Even though the post is about how to be a good white person, there are blacks who actually follow this same line of thinking. I guess to be a good white person or not like those other black people type person. I am curious on how you see them in all of this?
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@ sharinair
I think to be a truly good white person who isn’t implicitly racist, living in an integrated world would be a start. It’s hard to hate and stereotype people of another race when you live around all different races and see how stereotypes are incorrect. I live in an integrated suburban town in a neighborhood where whites are not the majority. White people make up about 40% of my neighborhood. I went to many different high schools across the land, but the high school where I graduated from was 40% black, 30% white, 10% Asian and the rest Latino or mixed race. But the town where I live was founded on post-racial post-Civil Rights principles:
http://thenewvoters.news21.com/mixedrace/columbia-md
White people in my neighborhood don’t mind not being 90% of the population. Not only is my neighborhood ethnically diverse but economically diverse as well. Although Howard County is the statistically third richest county in America, there are many older Section 8 developments near the village center because the founder of the town, Jim Rouse, wanted to create a city where people of all races and income levels would live together in harmony. But even these Section 8 areas are quiet and generally safe despite these areas being majority black which also defies stereotypes. Columbia’s crime rate is much lower than the national average in every category:
http://www.point2homes.com/US/Neighborhood/MD/Columbia-Demographics.html
It’s not like this in many towns in bordering Montgomery County, Maryland where towns like Bethesda and Chevy Chase are 80-90% white with very few blacks. From spending much time in both Columbia and the whiter areas of Montgomery County, I can honestly say that the covert racism discussed in this article is much more rampant in the whiter areas of Montgomery County. I’ve witnessed many microagressions at the hands of DC area white people. The mock ebonics, looking down on minorities and whites who embrace black popular culture (who they call “wiggers”), the blatant self-segregation, living in an all-white world are all the norm in many places there.
Where I live is known for harmonious racial relations. Mixed race couples, families and biracial children and adults are common here. It was the founder Jim Rouse’s vision. Columbia is interesting because there isn’t a huge pressure in the air for people to “act black” or “act white” like there is in the nearby DC area. In the DC area, you can feel it in the air. Montgomery County generally is largely about acting white like how it is described in this blog. Prince Georges County on the opposite side of the beltway is about blackness and preserving that. Columbia and nearby Silver Spring are the integrated areas where race isn’t that big of a deal.
But I don’t think my town will stay this way forever. In the past 15 years, the white population in my town has dropped by 10% and the black population has grown by 5%. With the close proximity to Baltimore, Columbia has the potential to become the next Ferguson, MO.
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