VonDerritt Myers, Jr (1996-2014), a Black American high school student, was gunned down by a White police officer on October 8th 2014 in the Shaw neighbhourhood of southern St Louis, Missouri – just two months and ten miles (16km) from the Michael Brown shooting. Whether Myers was armed is in dispute.
The shooting led to a protest of 300. A hundred police officers in riot gear arrived to contain them, a helicopter flying overhead. Protesters damaged two police cars (broken window, broken tail light). The next night protesters burned a US flag.
The shooting is not as clear-cut as the Michael Brown case:
What the police said (at one point or other – they keep changing their story): Myers and three others were standing on a street corner when the officer drove by. Officer Unknown Name thought Myers might have a gun because of the way he adjusted his waistband. When he drove back, they ran. Myers was wearing a hoodie. The officer went after Myers. They may or may not have fought each other where Myers’s sweatshirt came off. Myers shot at the officer – either by turning and shooting or jumping out of the bushes and shooting or falling down and shooting. Myers’s gun jammed after three shots. The officer shot back 17 times, killing him. A black 9mm Ruger was recovered from the scene, which later changed into a silver 9mm Smith & Wesson.
What others say: He did not have a gun but a sandwich. He was not wearing a hoodie or a sweatshirt. Myers adjusted his waistband because he wore fashionably sagging pants. He was shot maybe 15 times.
Knowable facts (security camera video, photograph of the scene, Facebook pictures, medical examiner, etc): Myers was not wearing a hoodie or a sweatshit, his pants were sagging. He had just bought a turkey sandwich at Shaw Market and did not seem to have a gun at the time. He would not have had time to eat the sandwich, go home, change clothes and get a gun. There were no bushes at the scene to jump out of. There is an old Facebook picture of him with a silver 9mm Smith & Wesson. He was struck by seven or eight bullets, one to the head through the right cheek, killing him.
Myers was to stand trial in November on a felony gun charge from earlier in the year. He was a passenger in a car chased by police. At the end of the chase police found a gun which they said was his. At the time of his death he was out on bail wearing a monitoring device on his ankle so police could find him (common in such cases).
Officer Unknown Name is a 32-year-old White man who has been with the St Louis police six years. He was off-duty working as a neighbourhood security guard but was in his police uniform. He had fought in Iraq (three combat tours) as a Marine. He is now on administrative leave as the police investigate themselves.
See also:
- Michael Brown
- Alan Blueford – a similar case
- Phantom Negro Weapons
pfft….please. Does anyone think it matters to white people if a black man/boy/teenager is shot dead with a background of criminal behavior or a black man/boy/teenager with no criminal history?
White people use the worst of black people to judge the rest of us as a whole group, so its useless to point out that VonDerrit Myers took a picture with a gun in hand and was in a car, that police were chasing.
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“He is now on administrative leave as the police investigate themselves.”—Had to laugh at this line , but it is all too true.
@Sondis
I give it 30 mins and I can almost guarantee that a whitewashed person and/or white person will make it matter. His clothes, criminal record, etc. Will some how make a difference while ignore that black men and women with none of those problems are still victims. They will make up a criminal record if they must. I mean heck look at the Mike brown situation.
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^^^ But will lose their sh*t if you feed them their own medicine
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I personally enjoyed the idea that they burned the American flag. Nice touch.
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Lesson of this story; don’t shoot at guys who did 3 combat tours in Iraq.
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Sondis said, “White people use the worst of black people to judge the rest of us as a whole group, so its useless to point out that VonDerrit Myers took a picture with a gun in hand and was in a car, that police were chasing.”
Sharinalr said, “I give it 30 mins and I can almost guarantee that a whitewashed person and/or white person will make it matter. His clothes, criminal record, etc. Will some how make a difference while ignore that black men and women with none of those problems are still victims. They will make up a criminal record if they must. I mean heck look at the Mike brown situation.”
Indeed. Even if they can’t find the worst of us, they’ll create one or make excuses. White people have this pathological need to create deviance in the form of black people to maintain their hold on society, and will use it to frame the entire black race.
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@brothawolf
Long time no see. You must be really busy lately.
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Picture of the guy with a gun? Big deal, open carry redn3cks post countless gun pics on FB. I’ve unfriended at least a dozen gun nuts in the last 12 months.
An impending trial is neither a conviction nor a reliable indicator of guilt. Hell, even a conviction is no reliable indicator of guilt. The police reason for approaching him sounds suspect.
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I believe the police reported finding a ruger 9mm handgun on site.
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Here’s another story for you http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-09-20/family-utah-man-was-cosplaying-samurai-champloo-when-shot-killed-by-police/.79007
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Is this a case of “phantom negro weapons”? This is just getting to regular. Very sad and tragic. And i am sure this policeman will get off scot free. Shaking my head.
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*too*^^^^
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A Katana sword is NOT a toy; it is not something you PLAY with; and definately not around a credit union. Pound for pound it may be the best edge weapon you can get.
A white woman just got her head cut off a couple of weeks ago by an angry black man.
I might have shot him myself.
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sharinalr: you speak the truth!
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brothawolf: you already know!
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@Moanika
That is ridiculous. With Halloween coming up I have to wonder if it is even safe to put on a costume ando go trick or treating with the kids. We have 4 similar swords in our home and they are not really sharp.
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I did read about the young man in Utah with the sword. That was crazy.
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Mary
You are right. It is getting too regular, but think about the dumb people who actually believe it. Not one questions how the scenerio is the same time and time again.
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@sharinalr: You are correct. And it’s sad nothing will be done and the cop will walk scot free i will be surprised if he is prosecuted. It just business as usual in America. This is how law enforcement is done today.
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Everything a black person has ever done is relevant in cases like these. But past behavior or comments by cops is never relevant. They are only judged by how they reacted in the incident in question and a pattern of behavior or judgment is never established.
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buddhuu
Picture of the guy with a gun? Big deal, open carry redn3cks post countless gun pics on FB.
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Are they stupid enough to post pictures of themselves with STOLEN guns?
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“The shooting is not as clear-cut as the Michael Brown case”
Nice, I’m glad that we can now confirm that the gentle giant case was clear-cut. It’s only the racsiss white people who need investigation and legal process and such.
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Thwack,
There is a clear and definite prejudice against people with dark skin and African features in North America and Europe. That is an undeniable fact. That the police forces in these areas act in ways that reinforce this prejudice is also a fact which with the advent of social media is also becoming undeniable.
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Kiwi:
I was trying not to use the filthy “r” word–there are some kids who read this blog. It’s like using “darn” instead of “d@*!”.
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@Kiwi,
Remember that white people cannot use the r-word (even though that word in not moderated on this blog). It upsets them much more than using Mock Ebonics (which most of them seem to have no issue with).
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The sword was a toy( prop to dressup as anime character.) thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09/15/3567345/why-was-this-black-man-killed-by-cops-in-utah/ I just want to warn everybody to stay safe this year Halloween. There would be some MONSTERS dressing up in purge mask,klan and other evil outfit to harm poc. Innocence children and parents knocking on the door for candy. Neighbors and trigger happy 12 targeting to treat or trick for fun.
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OK, and the people who think that Mr. Myers shot at police officers 3 times using his sandwich (or maybe just had a sandwich that looked like a gun, which caused officers to shoot him almost 20 times) are free from racialist motivations. By the way, nice pic of gentle giant 2 with his hands on his genitalia, demonstrating his “fashionably sagging pants”. And, finally, burning the U.S. flag upside down is a classy touch.
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Anne
That the police forces in these areas act in ways that reinforce this prejudice is also a fact which with the advent of social media is also becoming undeniable.
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Whats undeniable is that a lot of black people BEHAVE in ways which reinforce this prejudice; dark skin has nothing to do with it. I drive a dark car, I drink black coffee, judges and priests wear black…
Black people wanna change everything but their own BEHAVIOR.
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I kind of appalled at the chosen image of the late Meyers posted. You sure you couldn’t find a better image or was this all that was offered?
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Do Black people not have the right to bear arms? Are the police allowed to stop random people because they think they might have a gun?
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@TeddyBearChubs the image of Myers shows that that’s how he wears his pants. So the police were profiling him based on his pants.
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@Glenn
It seems so if you look black to them, esp. if you are not dressed “respectably” enough. They can even shoot you (maybe even kill you) whether or not they actually see a gun.
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And open season on Black people continues. Does anyone else feel that white people are taking their hate, anger and fear of President Obama out on the average Black citizen? My mother and I were talking about all of these shootings and she thinks that’s what is behind a lot of these killings.
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@ Sondis
Now you know there is no such thing as a Black man/boy/teenager without a criminal history! If he doesn’t have one, it’s just because he hasn’t committed a crime…yet. And if they can’t find evidence of a criminal history, why then we’ll just make up one.
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@Mochasister
Let us not forget that if he is not dressed “thug” enough they will find a black person that looks similar to him/she, dressed like a “thug” and say it is him/her.
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@biff
And this imagery is all the justification needed to absolve the officer involved of any wrongdoing, regardless of what the official findings indicate.
Meanwhile, another day, another casualty in an ongoing and seemingly neverending war against the Negro.
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Glenn (freedom of movement) Robinson @getgln
Do Black people not have the right to bear arms? Are the police allowed to stop random people because they think they might have a gun?
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Answer to question #1
Depending on your state, there are several classifications of people who cannot purchase, own and or use firearms. These include but are not limited to: convicted felons, mentally handicapped… skin color is NOT a disqualification.
Answer to question #2
YES
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@ Glenn
To paraphrase the Dred Scott decision, a Black person has no de facto rights which the police are bound to respect. White voters, prosecutors and the police still maintain a slave patrol mindset. Civilian review boards, even when they are set up, as in New York, are toothless.
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“Are the police allowed to stop random people because they think they might have a gun?”
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That depends on the Law/Ordinances in a given venue (state, city, town, county). To the chagrin of many anti-gun folks there are a few towns in the US that have considered mandatory gun possession laws.
My suspicion is that these are white areas. However, change can occur with the right impetus. Even all Black venues could eventually require gun ownership/conceal carry. Long shot? Yes! But who knows how the future will pan out, or why ownership might be required.
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Are you good at your job?
When I worked retail sales certain members of the staff and I would place bets (using real money) on what customers entering the store were looking for; thats right, we PROFILED THE CUSTOMERS. After about a month, nobody would bet against me anymore.
Law enforcement is no different, its the same sh*t everyday; matter of fact, its even worse nowadays because due to social media, everybody is copying each other. If you can’t detect patterns of BEHAVIOR, you aren’t doing your job.
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@ Glenn
Im sure there was a picture somewhere with Myers hands out of his pant’s crotch area. It’s just not a good image in my opinion. The kid is rather thin, and I fluctuate in weight myself,and it doesn’t mean I buy new pants and belts when it happens, I let it sag a little. But if I were the deceased I would prefer you not posting an image of me ‘Al Bundy’ styled.
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Racists claim Myers didn’t have a gun and didn’t shoot at police. They claim the gun was planted. Yet the gun recovered at the scene was identified as the one Myers posed with on facebook and lab tests confirm gunshot residue on his hand and clothing.
Pants up. Don’t loot.
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@ TeddyBearChubs
New picture. I wanted one that showed his pants, but the Shaw Market picture (added later) makes that point well enough.
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@Big Momma, the cops first said the gun was a Ruger not a Smith and Wesson. It became a Smith and Wesson after they saw the face book pics The M.E. said he didn’t perform gun shot residue test because it was unreliable. There story changes every time the wind blows.
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@sparger
Thanks for the clarification. It is a shame how people parrot the lies.
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Has no one here ever heard of the cops planting guns in the area after a bad shooting where the supposed perpetrator had no gun?
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Its funny, the “pull up your pants or else you deserved to be profiled & shot” crowd sound an awful lot like the “if she hadn’t been dressed like a slut she wouldn’t have gotten raped” crowd. Is anybody else hearing the similarities or is it just me?
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I can see the logic and it makes perfect sense.
Whores/sluts dress a certain way and engage in certain BEHAVIORS in order to attract a certain kind of person.
Would you walk into a lions cage dressed in a 3 piece suit made of BBQ chicken wings?
Well why not?
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@A
I see it. Blame the victim mentality at its finest.
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Thwack,
So the lions in the cage represent men in…anywhere. Are you saying we need to put men in ca
I’m pretty sure the lions would try to eat me no matter what I was wearing. That’s why they’re in a cage. I’m pretty sure rapists rape women no matter what they are wearing also. Should we treat all men like rapists and put them in cages?
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thwack
Whores/sluts dress a certain way and engage in certain BEHAVIORS in order to attract a certain kind of person
Are these ‘self defined’ whores/sluts OR are these women who dress and behave in a certain way that people label sluts/whores?
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You guys think like a bunch of academic, ivory tower negroes. You CLAIM to knowledge of the system of racism white supremacy, yet every time you experience it you act confused and hurt.
WTF?
How many more riots, looting, marches, funerals, slow singing, flower bringing, black suit wearing… before you change your BEHAVIOR and try something else?
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“…change your BEHAVIOR and try something else?”
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Thwack. I call bull f#<king sh^+
What else is there that Black people have not already done?
Many of us have talked like them, dressed like them, walked like them, went to their schools, churches, neighborhoods, think tanks and other institutions, sang their songs, etc… to what avail? We even minded our own business in our own communities – and got bombed, shot, killed. I expect you to tell me how that was our fault too. Shame on us for (somehow) causing those wonderful white people to riot against us – for being within their reach, grasp.
Like there's something we could do as individuals or as a PEOPLE that would stop or disable white people from being racists… I think it's YOUR beliefs that's off.
You sound like someone just off a boat who believes that Black people have only been in Amerikkka for a few decades rather than a few hundred years.
Tell us, what is this elusive something else according to you that would stop racism from reigning over Black/African people?
I think the time you're spending over at StormFront is messing with your head.
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Herneith said:
It’s such a well known ploy that it has a name (second definition on the list):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Throwdown
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I am just so tired. I try to keep emotions away thinking that will help, but it doesn’t I’m annoyed at the lose of Black lives women and men and how it is so accepted.
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Personally, I would like to see the word “slut” included in the list of words moderated as insulting/derogatory. It is an unpleasant, sexist term abhorred by feminists, (in my experience) women in general and non-patriarchal males.
Just saying.
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Reblogged this on revealingartisticthoughts and commented:
R.I.P Von Derrit Myers
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buddhuu
Personally, I would like to see the word “slut” included in the list of words moderated as insulting/derogatory.
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What do you suggest we replace it with?
*Nature abhors a vacuum*
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@ Thwack
What you’re saying doesn’t make sense because most sexual assault victims are attacked by someone they know, not someone they saw that night who viewed their “slutty” attire & decided to go after them. The madman jumping out the bushes belief is a myth that was widely debunked a long time ago. It’s time for you to educate yourself.
And no way in hell you’re black
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@ Buddhu
Wow an entire name & Wikipedia entry on one little known fact that most black people have been aware of for decades yet everyone calls us conspiracy theorists at the mere suggestion of it. I remember seeing a convenience store surveillance video a few years back where a Nazi with a badge more commonly known as a police officer slipped drugs inside a black youths backpack then subsequently arrested him. I can’t recall exactly, but I believe the cop was charged with the crime & went to jail, you just can’t make this sh!t up.
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A:
“I remember seeing a convenience store surveillance video a few years back where a Nazi with a badge more commonly known as a police officer slipped drugs inside a black youths backpack then subsequently arrested him. I can’t recall exactly, but I believe the cop was charged with the crime & went to jail, you just can’t make this sh!t up.”
I’ll give you an example of cops, planting drugs on black people.
watch this video…
(http://youtu.be/pJSTfKXDVrg)
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A
@ Thwack
And no way in hell you’re black
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If they start hanging black people from trees maybe we should both be hung from the same limb?
Hows that for collectivism?
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A
@ Thwack
What you’re saying doesn’t make sense because most sexual assault victims are attacked by someone they know, not someone they saw that night who viewed their “slutty” attire & decided to go after them.
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So why aggravate it by wearing a ho uniform?
Guess what, I stopped going to clubs where they search people for weapons BEFORE i got stabbed or shot in one.
I CHANGED MY BEHAVIOR.
Stop giving people who would harm you the “easy lay up”, especially the cops.
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Kiwi
@ thwack
You attribute criminality to race, as if it were a “black” thing.
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Uh, no.
I attribute criminality to poor, impulsive BEHAVIOR and it annoys me greatly.
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Kiwi, it starts with you. Enlist.
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thwack said:
Replace it? Why would we dispose of one sexist pejorative only to replace it with another?
If you could stop white people using the N word, what equivalent insult would you have them replace it with?
*Nature abhors a vacuum*? Don’t be ridiculous.
Racism, bad as it is, is not the only form of institutionalised oppression.
To my annoyance (and undeniable benefit) I am a member of more than one privileged group.
You, if male, are a member of at least one.
“Slut” makes a sexist judgement about female sexual morality. It holds women to standards that men think should not apply to themselves. It is also used by what we could call “male-washed” women.
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A said:
Conspiracy theorists?
I’ve personally known several people who have been framed, successfully or unsuccessfully, by police (for minor offences that one would not think worth the effort). In one case I was working with the suspect in a factory at the very moment he was supposed to have robbed a store. A couple of instances have involved the planting of drugs. All of these were 20+ years ago. Police corruption and victimisation is a venerable tradition.
The throw-down thing is particularly evil. It’s a whole different level. The cops obviously go equipped to kill and cover their a$$es. It is clear premeditation.
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@thwack
So I suppose we’re gonna have to wait for the “perfect victim” – young black man in business attire, no criminal record, church-going, excellent track record doing volunteer works in his community, etc. – to get gunned down by the police before folks like thwack recognize that police aren’t holding open season on black men and women because of their behavior and that the entire LEO institution is poisoned from the roots upward.
“Ho uniform”? That’s a new one.
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Victim-blaming… A favourite strategy of the privileged and the bigoted.
Blaming women for assaults upon them because they dress as they wish and think they should be free to go out for a drink with their friends. Blaming POC victims of police aggression because they wear what they want, go where they want and associate with whomever they choose…?
Rapists and corrupt, brutal cops are entirely responsible for their own offences. To imply blame because people behave autonomously rather than according to one’s own prejudices is pretty fascist.
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buddhuu
thwack said:
buddhuu
Personally, I would like to see the word “slut” included in the list of words moderated as insulting/derogatory.
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What do you suggest we replace it with?
*Nature abhors a vacuum*
Replace it? Why would we dispose of one sexist pejorative only to replace it with another?
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Because without words you become one of those people who look but can’t see.
See what?
See what they are looking at.
If you could stop white people using the N word, what equivalent insult would you have them replace it with?
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Monday
“Slut” makes a sexist judgement about female sexual morality. It holds women to standards that men think should not apply to themselves.
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Female chastity is the key to civilization because men who cannot establish paternity will not serve, protect or defend women, children and the civilization itself. All ancient cultures knew that.
Without restrictions on female sexuality women go crazy and men go lazy.
Just drive thru the average ghetto.
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“Guess what, I stopped going to clubs where they search people for weapons BEFORE i got stabbed or shot in one.”
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Guess what, you could be sitting at home watching TV, making a sandwich … being a law-abiding citizen minding your own business when a misinformed fully outfitted swat team with full auto rifles in hand break down your door and blow you away before you can say, “Wait! You guys have the wrong house!”
But now you’re dead because somehow YOU didn’t:
“Stop giving people who would harm you the “easy lay up”, especially the cops.”
Must’ve been YOUR bad (BLACK) karma, right Thwack?
Like your bud George Ryder, you ain’t credible!
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Mack Lyons (@DDSSBlog)
@thwack
So I suppose we’re gonna have to wait for the “perfect victim” – young black man in business attire, no criminal record, church-going, excellent track record doing volunteer works in his community, etc. –
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You just described the male version of Rosa Parks. Many people don’t realize she was chosen and trained for that event precisely because she was the perfect candidate to kick off the operation.
The racists took the bait and the rest is history.
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Just Me
Exactly!
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Just Me
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Guess what, you could be sitting at home watching TV, making a sandwich … being a law-abiding citizen minding your own business when a misinformed fully outfitted swat team with full auto rifles in hand break down your door and blow you away before you can say, “Wait! You guys have the wrong house!”
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If you become the victim of a Jewish Lawyer’s wet dream you should have already researched and prepared a list of the best Jewish lawyers who specialize in these cases. Your unjust homicide at the hands of the state should result in compensation that takes care of your family, mother and father, siblings…
for life.
A good Jewish legal team can do it. They will have everyone in the court room crying, even the judge.
The Jews even went after Hitlers driver!
He said, “but I needed a job?”
Too bad, fcuk you pay me!
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http://www.blacklistednews.com/Sleeping_7-year-old_girl_shot_in_head_during_no-knock_police_raid_on_wrong_home/38605/0/38/38/Y/M.html
I’m willing to bet this family would rather have their loved one instead of ANY financial compensation.
I also wonder what she might have done differently to not bring about her own demise – SUICIDE BY COP… you know, that thing Thwack says Black people do because they want everything/everyone else to change, but themselves.
You’re the perfect Show & Tell Poster Boy of what happens to a Person of Color who spends an inordinate amount of time at places like Storm-Front!
Remember … “A mind is a terrible thing to waste.”
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Looks like it was NOT the “wrong home”; they found the murder suspect upstairs:
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Chauncey Owens, who was the boyfriend of Aiyana’s paternal aunt LaKrystal Sanders,[21] was found in the upper floor of the duplex and surrendered without incident.[3]
Aftermath[edit]
Three days later, Chauncey Owens was charged with first-degree murder in connection with the death of Je’Rean Blake. Aiyana’s father Charles Jones was also held in conspiracy of the murder of Je’Rean Blake and is believed to be the person who provided the gun that killed Blake.[15]
In a last-minute plea bargain, Chauncey Owens admitted to killing 17-year-old Je’Rean Blake and agreed to testify that Charles Jones (Aiyana’s father) gave him the gun he used to shoot the teen for giving him a dirty look.
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See what I mean?
I knew there was some negro nonsense at the root of this tragedy; that train is never late.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Aiyana_Jones
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Thwack duplex means separate ‘apartment’ — no shared common space inside the house. Separate dwelling. Wrong ‘house’.
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To be honest, it will be lots, lots, lots of black people going to be murdered. To be 100% honest, only a few of us will survive in this world. Remember black people, we are the most despised group of people on this earth and we are “NOT” considered human so we should be on our BEST BEHAVIOR AT ALL TIMES!!!
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“Remember black people, we are the most despised group of people on this earth and we are “NOT” considered human so we should be on our BEST BEHAVIOR AT ALL TIMES!!!”
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The really sad thing is that we still despise ourselves!
And the second thing, also sad, is Black people who ARE well behaved (that’s the MAJORITY of us), doing their best is no guarantee that bad things aren’t going to happen to you – as a hue-man living in heavily melanated skin.
It seems that all of you “black behaviorists” too easily forget that bad things (RACISM) still regularly happen to well behaved Black people.
Stop chewing and digesting those disgustingly horrible blue pills that whiteness/western culture is feeding you!
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@Kingphillip3084
There are a lot of people who take a look at “The Redemption of Ham” and see what that painting depicts as black people’s only way out of this mess. Sort of like how a depressed person sees suicide as the only way out.
I just finished reading about how a local school system began spying on its own students’ social media profiles, after it claimed to have been tipped off by a phone call from an NSA rep (the NSA has since disavowed doing such a thing). So far, three black teens were expelled for showing off guns in their Facebook profiles off school grounds, while another student from Yemen was assumed to be some sort of terrorist based on a few jokes shared on Facebook and was since expelled.
The main focus has been on the stereotypical “young thugs” that mainstream Americans crap themselves about. I highly doubt a program like this would or will ferret out a future Harris/Klebold, since they’re not looking in those directions. But you better believe that those Negro students had better be on their best behavior from here on out.
Which begs the question: given the current Slave Patrol tactics practiced on the young black population, what is it exactly that they expect? That black Americans are gonna hide themselves away from public view out of fear of being scooped up by the authorities if they’re seen “stepping out of line”? That blacks will work twice as hard to aspire to a transcendence beyond blackness in a largely futile bid for mainstream acceptance? That thinning the black population through mass incarceration, police shootings and “black-on-black violence” will actually work? Answers on a postcard, please.
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“Female chastity is the key to civilization because men who cannot establish paternity will not serve, protect or defend women, children and the civilization itself. All ancient cultures knew that.
Without restrictions on female sexuality women go crazy and men go lazy.”
There is a lot of truth to this. Most men just don’t give as much of a crap when the children don’t have their blood. There has been research on this. Show a woman a bunch of children’s faces including some that look like her and she’ll empathize with all of them. Show a man the same and he’ll empathize with the ones that look like him. So it’s hard to get men to commit to women who they consider ‘sluts’ because they are worried they’ll be stuck unknowingly raising some other man’s kid. It’s just seen as a bad investment, when they are that easy that often.
But what does this have to do with that VonDerrit Myers kid?
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@thwack
Which goes to show that you have to be twice as good and nearly flawless in character in order for white America to even think about giving you, as a black person, the time of day.
I wonder how they’ll react when black Americans begin to make it crystal clear that they no longer want anything to do with white America any more.
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“I wonder how they’ll react when black Americans begin to make it crystal clear that they no longer want anything to do with white America any more.”
The same thing they always do, they’ll try to rob us of any remaining wealth we have and make us dependent on them, while finding other ways to exploit and marginalize us. Same ol same.
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Mack Lyons (@DDSSBlog)
@thwack
Which goes to show that you have to be twice as good and nearly flawless in character in order for white America to even think about giving you, as a black person, the time of day.
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Or
just be smarter than them and you won’t have to care about what they will or won’t give you.
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sjackson44 said:
If that is the case then it is oppressive male paternalism that must change – the behaviour of men. Patriarchy is an elitist, discriminatory system similar to racism in some ways.
The relevance to VonDerrit Myers is the parallel between people suggesting that black people should modify their behaviour to suit whites/cops and people suggesting that women should modify their behaviour to suit men.
Arrogant bullsh!t in both cases.
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buddhuu
Patriarchy is an elitist, discriminatory system similar to racism in some ways.
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No patriarchy = no civilization
Sorry, but that is the law of compensation. If you don’t allow men to own what they build, they ain’t gonna build anything; especially things like families and states.
You can either support and practice patriarchy, or have or have your throat slit by people who do; while your women gladly spread their legs for the throat cutters.
buddhuu is peddling a feminist wet dream; even women hate weak men.
“nature keeps a dear school but the fool will learn in no other”
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Emerson is rolling over in his grave as a silly Randite like thwack abuses and distorts the “law of compensation” to justify the usual nonsense.
Though to be fair, there are few things more amusing on the internet than the delusional arrogance and tough guy posing of the would be John Galts who stride across the interent going on about building civilization! and whatnot when the reality is, at best, that they are merely fodder and remarkably gullible dupes for their betters.
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George,
stop painting bullseyes on my back.
Its not “me” and its not my logic, its MOTHER nature.
If people are gonna hate, they should hate the game and NOT the players.
To quote Obama: “you didn’t build this” and neither did I.
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George Ryder,
Prove him wrong? LOL! Sorry to laugh at you, but it’s sad you fell for that glib nonsense.
There’s nothing to “prove wrong” as thwack is just making bald assertions that are a mix of warmed over Junior Randite/MRA stuff. “No patriarchy = no civilization” is just a meaningless rephrasing of the MRA line that “Men built everything”. Who is proposing that men shouldn’t be allowed to “own what they build” (whatever that means)? And so on….
The rest is just the usual tough guy “internet bar” posturing.
The reality is thawck hasn’t built anything, is not sliting anybody’s throat and doesn’t have nubile women swooning over his ultimate manliness. Apparently, his main contribution to the patriachy and civilization is spending an inordinate amount of time on the internet lecturing black people and excusing racism. Joh Galt would laugh at him.
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George returned to “D” ride thwack. ROFL.
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ks
While you kindly took the time to explain that to George, I personally have found such things fall on deaf ears as did Matari. He is very gullible or I could be the gullible one for believing as much.
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George Ryder
Maybe. Do you have a better form of description you would like to provide and I will gladly use it?
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I see that since thwack can’t hide behind Emerson and Rand anymore he’s moved on to use Mother Nature as a foil. I feel badly for Her.
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George Ryder
Considering that talking to you is like explaining the simple things to a 4 year old I would not be quick to call anyone basic. You agree on things without even understanding them and thus you are D riding in my book.
You should feel privileged that I even bother to address you or anyone else for that matter.
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George Ryder
Everything compared to you, but in light of others in here….not much. Though as a courtesy I will give you one thing. I am not as blind or gullible as you.
Good day. 🙂
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OFF TOPIC: patriarchy.
Take it to the Open Thread or to George Ryder’s Facebook or to Heartiste (aka Roissy).
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@ryder what is your facebook
@thwack what is your facebook
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Shame we don’t get to see more of each other’s Facebooks. It would certainly help separate the real people from the liars and trolls.
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Taking the thing that’s just been declared off topic to Open Thread …
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Meanwhile in New Hampshire, some idiotic white people turn a town upside down during a pumpkin festival, burning sh*t, overturning cars, etc. and police did not come in full riot gear with tanks, etc. Hmn.
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