Renisha McBride (1994-2013), a 19-year-old Black American woman from Detroit, was shot dead in the nearby White American suburb of Dearborn Heights at 2.30am on Saturday November 2nd 2013. Just like Jonathan Ferrell two months before, she had been in a car accident and was looking for help. But this time it was not the police who shot her dead but the man who answered the door. She was unarmed.
Note: The following is based on accounts given by the police and McBride’s family in the five days following the shooting.
According to police, the shooter says that he was afraid of a break-in and that his shotgun went off in her face by accident. Yet he did not call 911 afterwards. He left her dead on his porch.
The police at first said her body was dumped in Dearborn Heights, as if the murder had taken place in Detroit. Later they said she was shot where they found her (the 16000 block of Outer Drive near Warren Avenue) and believe it was self-defence. The police did not tell McBride’s family about her death till two days later.
The family thinks it was a case of racial profiling: there was no sign of a break-in, like a broken window or anything like that, she was a hard-working, soft-spoken woman who kept to herself. She had just started work at Ford Motor Company.
Dearborn Heights (86% White) is right next to Detroit (82% Black).
Car accident: McBride was driving through Dearborn Heights when her 2001 white Ford Taurus was hit. Her mobile phone was apparently dead. The police found her shot dead four blocks away from her car some hours after the accident.
The coroner says she was shot in the head. The police say it was in the face near the mouth. The family said it was in the back of the head.
Five days later the shooter is not under arrest The police refuse to say who it is. They have asked the county prosecutor’s office for an arrest warrant. The county is still looking into it.
The state has a Stand Your Ground law, like Florida where Trayvon Martin was killed. As journalist Rania Khalek notes on her blog:
The problem with a law like Stand Your Ground is that it excuses and encourages deadly force against “perceived” threats. In the United States, where implicit and structural racism persists on a vast scale, is it wise to empower people who almost certainly have irrational and racist fears, to kill instead of call police who are trained (at least they’re supposed to be) to deal with potential threats?
Race also appears to play a significant role in whether a homicide is deemed justifiable. A recent study conducted by John Roman of the Urban Institute’s Justice Policy Center found, “the odds that a white-on-black homicide is ruled to have been justified is more than 11 times the odds a black-on-white shooting is ruled justified,” a reflection of the racial disparities that plague all aspects of the US criminal justice system.
See also:
- Jonathan Ferrell – car crash
- Trayvon Martin – buying snacks
- Aiyana Jones – sleeping
- Rekia Boyd – standing
- Oscar Grant – train
- Marissa Alexander – is Stand Your Ground only for White people?
So now because of the George Zimmerman case,
it’s “open season” against black people and all these racist punks think they can shoot a black person and get away with it because of the Stand Your Ground law
I wonder how your resident “race realists” plan to spin this one, Abagond.
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So Sad,my thoughts are with her family.
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WOW! I hadn’t heard of this one.
Is this blowing up in American news?
I sure hope this is getting attention after the Zimmerman verdict. From outside the US, I had hoped these were isolated incidents. I’m really disheartened to learn this is such a regular occurrence.
Is the regularity of these incidents recent, or has this been going on for a long time now?
This is unnerving; I pray the African American community will not rest, and do everything in its power to bring each and every one of these cases out into the open. I’m disgusted, man. As I’ve said, myself and my family, have been planning a move to the States sometime in the very near future. Now my mum (who isn’t even a Black woman), is no longer interested in relocating to America, but Canada, because of the frequency of these stories of such heated racism, over there. I’m starting to agree with her. It’s a lot!
My prayers are with her family; may she rest in peace.
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@ Ebontmonroe
It blew up on Twitter and made Time magazine, so it is apparently national news.
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Hey, Aba,
So here we are again, barely two months later. I am seriously unable, though I have responsibilities, so I keep trying to keep it together.
I want people to realize whether or not “the gun went off accidentally” that murderer would have had to been pointing it at Renisha’s head at point blank range with his finger on the trigger.
Whether he shot her in the face of the back of the head is moot, because forensics and autopsy will determine that (if that coroner’s office isn’t corrupt), and also moot because he obviously had a bead on her for a headshot either way.
An unarmed, injured young woman at his doorstep asking for help.
As more and more information comes in – and let’s be real, actually since the first initial reports – this incident has stunk to high heaven.
And thanks for sharing the bit of info I wasn’t aware of: The fact that YET AGAIN a police department took DAYS to notify the family that their loved one was dead. Another disturbing trend.
@Ebonymonroe, your mom is wise. Stay the hell out of America. POC or not, this is an unhealthy place. I’m ditching out myself.
iQuit
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Don’t knock on someone’s door at 2:30 am, especially if you are in the suburbs of Detroit. White people live there because they don’t want to live in the inner city made dangerous by folks who, perhaps by sad coincidence, look like YOU. Use your feet to walk. Find a payphone and call mama. Or flag down a police car–WITH VISIBLE HANDS AND A SMILE. Live to see tomorrow.
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This is sickening! But expected in a system of white supremacy. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.
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Is that a picture of Christ?
Ethnic looking, dark (brass skinned), wooly haired, Christ?
Christ, the descendant of Jewish David and “ dark burnt skinned” (Black) Bathsheeba?
The tripartite human incarnation of The One who went so far as to say be careful how you treat strangers in your land, as you too were once strangers?
The one who said there is no difference between Jew, gentile, man, or woman?
The man who risked his reputation to talk to an adulterous woman of another race at the well?
The one who said obedience to walking in the fruit of the Spirit is far more important than material sacrifice?
The one who said to give a cup of water to one who thirsts out of charity is as doing unto him?
That’s interesting.
@Abagond
Thanks a lot. I’m gonna look out for coverage on it on American news stations.
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So much for “post-racial America”…
Unfortunately, this MURDER is one in a long, long, long line of wake-up calls for black people, who I fear will continue to roll over in our beds (and heads) and go right back to sleep
We have had many wake-up calls as to the direction this country is going and white America’s TRUE sentiment regarding the value of black life, Hurricane Katrina being one of the most stark and recent examples.
Can you imagine this government or its white citizenry allowing kittens or puppies to sit on a roof for three or four days without attempting a massive rescue? I can’t, but they let black men, women, and children sit stranded and dying for days after Hurricane Katrina only later to demonize and blame them for their own gross mistreatment. That should have spoke VOLUMES to black people but unfortunately, even that was soon forgotten.
My like-minded associates and I had predicted that after the election of President Obama in a failing economy and the passages of laws like “Stand Your Ground” and “Concealed Carry” would mean open season on black people.
That the (white) powers-that-be DELIBERATELY created the Obama presidency specifically for that purpose — to make a black person (Obama) the scapegoat for all the ills created by the whites in power, because they KNEW the mentality of the white collective, and KNEW whites collectively would fall for the trick of chasing the black chickens (us) around the barnyard, so the white wolves would have an opportunity to steal them blind and get away without it — without being blamed.
“It’s all that N’s (Obama’s) fault for my problems!”
And they also knew that a “first black president” with all its inherent and deceptive glamour and all the symbolism of progress (rather than substance) would put many blacks back to sleep and would lead some of us into bed with whites to create our own “Obama” baby. (sic).
What better way to convince a greatly oppressed people that at least some part of white america was finally changing, despite our bitter REALITY of rising unemployment, foreclosures, poor schools, incarceration, police brutality and homelessness among the black population?
When in reality, it was all a smokescreen to shift the blame from white hands to black ones. Make no mistake, President Obama knew the deal, otherwise, he would not play such a skillful hand, saying, and doing and signing exactly what he was told to say, do and sign—a great part of that meant ignoring and overlooking what is happening to black people (since he wasn’t put there to help us).
Like former President Roosevelt once said, “Anything that happens in politics happens because it was planned that way.”
And we should not overlook the roll-out of all these revisionist black movies showing black people as “noble” domestic servants (the Help, and The Butler) along with “slavery” films created and financed by white Hollywood (that should tell us something all by itself) that black people are flocking to and paying our hard-earned money to see–all making white filmmakers richer than they already are.
I did two blogs about the movie, “The Butler” trying to demonstrate that it was NOT a “black” movie, but just a movie with so black people in it
http://racismws.com/2013/08/14/why-the-movie-the-butler-will-not-get-one-dime-from-me/
http://racismws.com/2013/08/17/is-lee-daniels-the-butler-really-a-black-movie/
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What does my previous post ave to do with the death of Renisha McBride? Because by creating a black scapegoat in the White House to take the blame for all the things that make white america furious, ALL black people become guilty by default.
This is what I tried to warn all the people within my work and social circle about, that President Obama is there to be BLAMED and by default, WE will all be blamed and since they can’t reach Obama, they will be coming (and gunning for US).
The passage of laws like Stand Your Ground and Concealed Carry were designed to make it easier for any random white or non-black person to use us as a shooting target and claim self=defense.
Along with a new law which went into effect Nov 1, it is now a FELONY to “annoy” a police officer and carries a MANDATORY FOUR-YEAR prison sentence. Guess who that law was designed for?
The same black and brown people who were being illegally and unconstitutionally stopped and frisked. Afer a judge ruled the Stop and Frisk law unconstitutional, the NY State legislature created the new law.
Against a backdrop of rising oppression against black people and the wanton slaughter of black men, women, and children by armed whites and honorary whites (like George Zimmerman) who get away with murder, the only remaining question is not WHAT is happening but WHAT our response as black people under undeniable conditions of WAR — will be?
Is this finally enough to force our sleeping eyes open and see what is right in front of our faces and come together, educate ourselves about the real problem, accept that we live under a system of racism/whites supremacy that is CUSTOM-DESIGNED to wage war upon us, and make a decision to break out of our white identification (and white beds) so we can begin to support and protect each other for the sake of our MUTUAL SURVIVAL– instead of fighting and fussing and betraying each other?
Or will this murder just be another bump in the road that jars us temporarily before we go right back to sleep?
Because if we choose the latter, we better fasten our seat belts, put on our flak helmets and prepare psychologically for a lot more of the same, including the possibility and probability that it may happen to us or someone close to us.
Because the handwriting is clearly on the wall.
(please forgive the long posts!)
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@Ebonymonroe:
No, sir. It’s a picture of Charles Martel. The Frankish general who, by military force, drove the Muslims out of Christian Europe with much bloodshed.
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Really?
Another unarmed black person perceived as a threat to some white person’s well being is murdered – for being black (and naive)?
What’s the big deal?
White folks have been getting away with killing unarmed black people – children, women, and men – FOR CENTURIES!!! Bombings, lynchings, fires, riots, drownings, shootings, dragging, etc, etc, etc!!!
Why all the upset?? It’s not like this is new or news!
And what the hell are you black folks gonna do about it, anyway??
Besides more moaning and groaning? And saying may the deceased RIP.
Rest In Peace??
If I were killed by a white person I’d hope I would never Rest In Peace until every white murderer of an unarmed black person receives their comeuppance. Who knows? I could get blown away, easily – since I’m tall/big, dark and perceived (by white folks) as threatening.
Huh!
So now what??
Protest? Light some candles? March/demonstrate? Show a little anger by turning a few cars over? Break some downtown store’s glass? Write an editorial to the local paper? Contact your congressman?
Really! How is all of that working??? Is it stopping white folks from blowing us away??
{{But we gotta be smart Matari because, because, because, because … we know that there are WHITE RACIST factions who outnumber us that are anxious for any excuse to wage an all out bloody race war against black people everywhere/anywhere in Amerikkka, so we just have to ….. be cool … and …}}
Lay down and die every time some delusional white racist feels threatened.. while those who survive this modern day “slave patrol onslaught” witness the whiteness machinery minimizing any negative outcomes as they gather their wagons around their (latest heroic) white club member, ala George Zimmerman.
May Amerikkka, the whore, receive ALL that she has coming to her… times ten!
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@Matari
Very well said! I co-sign that 1000%!!
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Great posts, TrojanPam. Regarding your basic question, I’m afraid the answer is NO. This will not ‘wake up’ the majority of black people because the reality of it is either too unbelievable or just too alarming to face up to. Personally, what has happened to this young lady has me utterly furious because I understand what is going on. What we’re going to do about incidents like this remains to be seen, because while most of us are aware of white racism and its history, I think most of us do not have a true understanding of the depth and insidiousness of white supremacy. It truly is like living in a ‘matrix’ where a false reality has been pulled over our eyes and fed into our minds. We are at WAR, and most of us simply don’t know it. To face up to the reality of it and finally grasp ‘the big picture’ is too horrible. That is the power of psychology at work, and the vast majority of us do not understand psychology, nor do we wish to. We do not understand it and therefore do not understand how to use it just like our enemy does.
It all goes back to the lies and disinformation we’ve always been fed to keep us divided as a group. It has made us believe in what I call the ‘cult of individualism’, and it goes all the way back to slavery times. Through clever psychological trickery, we were all programmed to distrust one another all for the benefit of a system that enriched a demonic race of people. It was no accident or coincidence that Africans who spoke different languages were thrown together during the Middle Passage. It was a tactical move that prevented our ancestors from communicating with one another, because this has always been a WAR. We have not been able to function effectively as a group because of all the brainwashing and to win a war you have have a group mentality. In my opinion, we need new and smarter strategies to defeat this enemy, and I have absolutely no faith that we’ll be able to do that before it is too late.
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@futurodellanazione
Very well, mistake, Fair enough
@TrojanPam
I remember talking to a family member about this a while back, in fact, I mentioned this on this blog not too long ago. I noticed the shift, there was a definite backlash and a resurgence of racism that came about upon Obama’s election. To answer your question, do I personally think this will cause the community to wake up? No, I don’t. Instead, the surfacing of this more blatant form of racism seem to actually be resulting in the internalizing of it. Like what we’ve see strewn across the internet, like the hate speech attacking our own on youtube.
I believe we’ll be like tribes, where a minority of us are wide awake, while the majority continues to bury its head I the sand, and even cave in towards its own.
I don’t approve of many of the decisions Obama has made, during his presidency, but I’m also cognizant of the fact that he hasn’t been given much room to move at all. But I am supportive of his steps to modify “the war on drugs” for first time, non violent offenders, who have long been made to serve incredibly disproportionate amounts of time in comparison to White male and female murderers and pedophiles. Also, I’m in support of his attempts to revise the US healthcare system (like somewhat of a nhs system like what w have here in the UK), as its failures have extended far beyond the African American community, to the entire middleclass, time and time again. Along with the tough law passing on Wall street and his moves to end the war. But I definitely agree that he has been made to take the blame for a mess he didn’t create. When Bush was in, however, “The Dixie chicks” quickly what happens when you spoke out about the mess he was in the process of creating.
@Matari
Then what do you propose? I sure do hope the African American community doesn’t set about looting and destroying its own communities, that would be completely self defeating. Like the LA riots, which only served only to hurt its only community, damage that took the very community living in it, a very long time to bounce back from.
You have to remember it was the death of Emmett Till that sparked the civil rights movements being thrust to life. It is imperative that the African American community band together and relentlessly speak out, march, shout out, and challenge the current state of affairs. This can be used as leverage. To an extent, White supremacy is far more dangerous when it is covert, because it can be perceived as too intangible to identify. But you guys are gonna have to get militant and relentless. Singing a few Kumbayas is not enough. Sometimes I think it would be wise for us to just pick up and go back home. Our tax dollars/pounds we drop in the Western world, our purchasing power, our service to the work force and military, our absence would soon be felt. But that is not practical, it’s just not gonna happen. We made gains in the 90’s because of the sheer rage that was birthed from living in the ruins of the Reagan administration, the crack era being dumped into Black communities, and suffering the pay of the unsustainable excesses of 80’s Wall street. But we got comfortable at some point, we became passive. It’s on you guys.
I do hope she rests in peace, I don’t wish for her to be tormented, but I do hope and pray for her family, and the African American community at large, to find the strength, focus, and resolve to use this to be summoned out of stupor, and go hard.
It’s on you guys. What are you gonna do?
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uh oh, I’ve gone to moderation
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Unbelievable though I guess not really. He shot her in the face with a shotgun and left her to die on his porch. Didn’t even bother to call 911. Think about the level of entitlement that implies. Good posts TrojanPam. Blackagendareport was on to the Obama thing before most people, even most black people, had any idea who we was.
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thanks for doing this post abagond. It is sad and disgusting to see cases like these but i’m not shocked. Now just knocking on someone’s door is a death sentence, it is like sundown towns all over again. He could’ve called the police but instead took matters into his own hands but the messed up thing is even if he did call the police this still could’ve been the outcome. And they are covering for him and not wanting to release his name and all that and lied that she was dumped there smh. It is like when black women are killed oh it was an accident when black men are killed its oh he was a thug or threatening.
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@TrojanPam
Long or not well said.
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@Pamela
“It was a tactical move that prevented our ancestors from communicating with one another, because this has always been a WAR”
But you need men to fight a war. Women can help, but men are the fighters. From history, men are motivated to fight a war when they have women and children they want to defend. Where are your men?.Are they committed to fighting for their women and children?
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@ ebony and matari
I hear u both, and yes ebony there seems to be more asleep than awake people and even there are some half awake people or people that focus on dumb things. As far as us getting more militant I will say this we have to fight smart, we can’t go on just anger alone we gotta strategize. We see how they treat us from the barney’s store profiling to this murder we gotta stop buying their expensive name brand things. And we gotta work on ourselves we gotta get in shape physically, mentally, and spiritually. I agree just marching and all that ain’t working, it wasn’t until the slaves had uprising did they take notice and were shocked, and people really started pushing abolition. At the same time people have got to stop having selective outrage or being reactionary, it seems only when things like this happen do we start talking about joining together. When common sense would be we been should’ve did that and we never should’ve ben disconnected from each other there are strength in numbers. Common sense would be instead of waiting to be hurt, discriminated against, or killed we should be proactive and try to prevent or reduce that from happening by having our own businesses, living amongst like minded black folks, and educating black children. We’ve long had the illusion of inclusion, there were a lot of black ppl wanting equality not necessarily integration, but what alot the ppl before us failed to realize was that equality does not come about by living next door to a white person or sending their kid to a white school, equality comes about by economic empowerment being able to compete with them is equality. That competition is what they and many others don’t want, it is why black wall street was destroyed and why ida b wells friends were lynched because they were competing against the white grocery store across the street. They are fine with giving us jobs here and there and throwing us a bone because they can control how much we get and when, if we had our own businesses we’d control how much we get and when.
anyway to wrap this up ,before it comes to violence we need to try everything else first, we’ve tried marching so time to move on to the next step and that doesn’t always involve violence. The next step imo is economic empowerment by first not buying more than necessary from them, then supporting black businesses and maybe saving money to try to start a home based business, and keep moving up until we do have businesses, then we defend and protect those as best we can then it is time to do what’s necessary if they try to repeat a black wall street then i’d say its time.
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@ jayis
good point, that is why a lot of black males have been locked up and all this other stuff so they can be taken out of the fight and we have less of a chance of winning. This is not just a physical battle but mental and spiritual as well. a lot of stuff was strategically placed. First it was dis arming black people by first having a racist law saying blacks couldn’t own guns to where convicted felons can’t own guns, I don’t think the violent convicts should own guns, but they include ppl that had or used drugs as well, so the war on drugs dis armed a lot of ppl as well. We do need more like the foi.
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@mstoogood4yall
“that is why a lot of black males have been locked up and all this other stuff so they can be taken out of the fight”
Those males commit crimes against other black people mainly. Do you think you could trust them to fight FOR black people?
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^ im not talking about the black males that did violent crimes or the ones that are like jay z. i’m talking about the ones that may have possessed drugs or used drugs for themselves. I know ppl are like wtf an addict or something but Malcolm x was down and out and was rehabilitated. I am talking about those kinds of brothas that were locked up for things they didn’t do or for small things. No I wouldn’t want some crazy person that has killed or purposefully hurt another black person or has no respect for authority.
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Sigh
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Abagond didn’t provide sources so I googled and sampled a few news articles. I can only assume he’s gotten his facts from afrocentric sources repeating misinformation because the articles I read didn’t convey the same confusing contradictions.
1- The family is claiming she was shot in the back of the head while walking away. Police have not only said it was the face but that the family is mistaken. And how would the parents even know whether she was walking away? The parents are making claims they couldn’t possibly know.
2- If someone is shot in the face with a shotgun then they weren’t ‘left to die’. Death was instantaneous.
3- I haven’t read any official statement saying the homeowner didn’t call the police.
4- I haven’t read any official statement saying it was several hours before police showed up. On the contrary, the police say it was several hours between the accident and the time she was shot.
5- I haven’t read anywhere that the homeowner is claiming self-defense. They’ve always maintained it was accidental discharge.
6- This has nothing to do with ‘stand your ground’. Why even bring it up?
7- But since you did, blacks disproportionately claim ‘stand your ground’. For example, blacks in Florida have made about a third of the state’s total “Stand Your Ground” claims in homicide cases, a rate nearly double the black percentage of Florida’s population. The majority of those claims have been successful, a success rate that exceeds that for Florida whites.
8- Blacks perpetrate 90% of the violent interracial crime between whites and blacks. So it’s not surprising white-on-black homicide is ruled justified more often. That’s simply a reflection of the high rate of interracial violence blacks commit.
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@Da Jokah
You’re justifying this killing. Sane white people don’t grab the shotgun when there’s a knock on the door but if a lot of them ARE doing that, the government needs to warn all black people. If she had been white, do you really think his gun would have “accidentally” fired? This black woman could have been a Jehovah Witness!
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Since you asked “Where are ‘your’ men?”, and “Are they committed to fighting for their women and children?”, I assume you aren’t a black person. You’ll have to ask our men ‘where they are’, if you really care about the issue. Or you can look around for yourself and figure it out.
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I appreciate all the talk about “Black People Wake Up” and whatsnot. Understand there is a difference between being sleep and getting upset or angry.
We can still know full well what time it is, and still be outraged and angry over the murder of a young Black woman.
I chose my net presence handle On Purpose. Not because I’m an insomniac (I am) but because my Eyes Are Wide Open. na meen?
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Unbelievable that another racist murder has occurred. My heart goes out to the McBride family. May her death and the many other senseless deaths. What can be done to prevent the next one?
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^^^
Edit to add: their deaths not to be in vain.
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Jayis
You’re justifying this killing. Sane white people don’t grab the shotgun when there’s a knock on the door
I’m not justifying anything. An accidental discharge isn’t justified. But plenty of sane people would grab a shotgun if they’re awoken by a suspected intruder at 2:30 in the morning. It’s a common trope on television for the husband to investigate a noise in the middle of the night while carrying a bat or golf club. In reality, it’s a shotgun. I’ve done it several times myself.
If she had been white, do you really think his gun would have “accidentally” fired?
I’ve personally known two people who’ve been killed by accidental discharge. I know a third who was shot in the leg and lived. And last year, an acquaintance blew off the end of his finger in the parking lot where he worked while showing his pistol to a coworker. None of the people involved were charged with a crime.
This black woman could have been a Jehovah Witness!
At 2:30 in the morning?
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@ Da Jokah
You are right about “left to die”. My mistake. I changed the post to read “left dead”.
I can see how the paragraph on the car accident might be confusing, so I added “Her mobile phone was apparently dead.”
Most of the rest is due to:
1. Your childlike faith in the police and
2. Your lack of reading comprehension
a) claiming I said things I never said and
b) missing the point of Khalek’s first paragraph,
You read and think like a 12-year-old. Since you write much better than a 12-year-old, I have to assume that you are either trolling or this is part of your protective stupidity as a whitewashed person. I would be interested to know which, but if you are trolling I cannot expect an honest answer.
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@Da Jokah
“plenty of sane people would grab a shotgun if they’re awoken by a suspected intruder at 2:30 in the morning.”
If someone knocks on your door, why would you consider them a “suspected intruder”? He didn’t have to go to the door. He could have ignored the knock.
Grabbing a shotgun is suspicious behavior. This man should be investigated.
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Abagond
So you think I’m wrong not because of facts or reason but because I have a “child-like faith in the police”, “lack of reading comprehension” and “think like a 12 year old”? Interesting. Actually, I don’t have much faith in the police at all. I wouldn’t trust a cop as far as I could throw him. I have no doubts they’d cover up their own crimes and mistakes just like most people. I’m a little more skeptical about them covering for a stranger.
, I have to assume that you are either trolling or this is part of your protective stupidity as a whitewashed person. I would be interested to know which
I suppose anyone who disagrees with you would have to be either trolling or stupid. What other explanation could there be? After all, you’re never wrong.
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@ Da Jokah
It was not your lack of agreement but, if anything, you creating disagreements that were not there – meaning either you are either trolling or being wilfully stupid.
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But what’s the point of going out of your way to visit a page concerning the death of an innocent individual to pick fights with people commenting, especially a topic as sensitive as this. I don’t think this is the time for that at all. I’m sorry, I really don’t.
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@Jayis. It’s Detroit, man. As a resident of New Orleans, another great Africanized city, I can tell you that sane white people don’t answer the door at 2:30 am WITHOUT a loaded shotgun.
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In order for the black “community” to eagle up we must first form black communities!!
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So true! What do we expect? I have had experiences when I was lost as a youth and adult when I’ve knocked on a persons door and the home dwellers were white and they were kind to me and helpful. However, with so many Whites having race hate/anger/supremacy issues, what do we expect when these happenings occur? So sad!
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Kushite Prince
This is sickening! But expected in a system of white supremacy. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.
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“Or flag down a police car–WITH VISIBLE HANDS AND A SMILE. Live to see tomorrow.”—We all know how well that worked for others who did it.
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@Kudjoe
Just taking a jab at what you mean by black “communities” but the truth is there are, but they also are not in unity either. This is actually the biggest obstacle because everyone is going their own way.
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@Pamela,
What you wrote is so true. We are not at war, but whites are at war with us. If you stay around White men and women long enough, they hate the idea of black people being friendly with each other or even dating each other, especially finding a black person of the opposite sex attractive. Given this and the fact that they really don’t believe we should be able to have any opportunities or have anything, it’s obvious that they want us dead! Racist Whites walk around angry at the sight of a black person. No matter how kind, decent, giving or other, they are HATEFUL towards every black person and weirdly angry and resentful.
We are merely trying to live our lives while racist whites are waging a war at us. One preacher talked about how they have not been able to do the genocidal actions many of them have wanted to and honesly I believe it’s true. Maybe the “liberal” whites are what keeps the racist Whites from waging a full out war against us in terms of employment, livelihood and existence!
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Prayers to her family, May she rest in peace, this is so tragic, when will this madness end.
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My above post was in reply to Pamelas post, re-posed below:
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Great posts, TrojanPam. Regarding your basic question, I’m afraid the answer is NO. This will not ‘wake up’ the majority of black people because the reality of it is either too unbelievable or just too alarming to face up to. Personally, what has happened to this young lady has me utterly furious because I understand what is going on. What we’re going to do about incidents like this remains to be seen, because while most of us are aware of white racism and its history, I think most of us do not have a true understanding of the depth and insidiousness of white supremacy. It truly is like living in a ‘matrix’ where a false reality has been pulled over our eyes and fed into our minds. We are at WAR, and most of us simply don’t know it. To face up to the reality of it and finally grasp ‘the big picture’ is too horrible. That is the power of psychology at work, and the vast majority of us do not understand psychology, nor do we wish to. We do not understand it and therefore do not understand how to use it just like our enemy does.
It all goes back to the lies and disinformation we’ve always been fed to keep us divided as a group. It has made us believe in what I call the ‘cult of individualism’, and it goes all the way back to slavery times. Through clever psychological trickery, we were all programmed to distrust one another all for the benefit of a system that enriched a demonic race of people. It was no accident or coincidence that Africans who spoke different languages were thrown together during the Middle Passage. It was a tactical move that prevented our ancestors from communicating with one another, because this has always been a WAR. We have not been able to function effectively as a group because of all the brainwashing and to win a war you have have a group mentality. In my opinion, we need new and smarter strategies to defeat this enemy, and I have absolutely no faith that we’ll be able to do that before it is too late.
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Frankly on posts that deal with a person senselessly dying I think trolls should be restricted from making heartless and insensitive comments. Stupidity and common indecency should not be rewarded.
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@ Average Bee @ Da Jokah @ Pamela: Comments deleted that advocated violence or were in answer to it.
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Abagond
Average Bee’s comment advocating killing white people disappeared. Can you check to make sure the comments are working?
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I didn’t see your comment before I posted. Did she get banned?
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@Da Jokah
You should carefully read the comment policy. It says you can get banned for it. Not that you will. 🙂
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Thank you, Sharina. Apparently, Abagond was using his discretion. I wonder what kind of discretion he would have used if I’d said something like that?
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The scary thing is this could be any of us.
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[…] Here is some more info on this person taken from Abagond’s post on Renisha McBride: […]
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Im so sorry to hear about this…I thought it was a thread about a singer..and didnt go in
With Jonatan Ferral, this is too close…this is very bad
I honestly cant tell black people to just trust white people…you have to feel it out…
there just isnt any excuse for this…holding a shotgun on a woman ?He could have had it behind the door or something…why have it pointing directly at a woman’s face?
We White people better start asking some serious questions …..being afraid of violent crime is not a good enough excuse to just have a shotgun on a woman’s face…or for police to shoot somebody just running at them for help..
this is disturbing
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@ Pam
Sadly, I have to agree with your post. I don’t think we will wake up in time. The damage done to us after 500 years of oppression has never healed and so what you see when you look at blacks in america is a people who have been systematically and relentless traumatized since the first day we stepped off the slave ships–and the war against us continues and shows no signs of letting up
A “first black” president, notwithstanding.
It may not happen in my lifetime, but the Universe, God, and the Creator always seek balance (and what is just). Our enemies will have their terrible days of reckoning for their crimes and will not escape their karma OR their fate–without us lifting a single finger to make it happen.
That’s why I don’t look for magical or overnight solutions, or for black people to suddenly and miraculously “wake up.” If you look at human psychological studies like, learned helplessness and the Stockholm Syndrome, you can see both at work in the reactions of the descendants of former slaves to our modern day oppression.
But, there are things we can do that require no money or guns or violence. What I advocate, and have always advocated is for blacks collectively to STOP PARTICIPATING in those things we can control
like buying music, or supporting TV programs (like Scandal where a black female is a married white man’s w*hore) and videos and movies that degrade other black people.
To stop calling other black people, the N-word, and the B-word and “dawg” and “ho.” To stop tattling on other black people at work. To stop mistreating and disrespecting each other. To date and marry each other and stop uplifting other ethnic groups above our own. To teach our children the TRUTH about racism instead of telling them the LIE that all they have to do to get ahead in the white world is to go to school, eat their spinach and “stay out of trouble” — when we KNOW that advice will NOT protect them from what they will face: racism/white supremacy
That is the main reason I wrote the books. To provide some solutions and suggestions I thought were constructive as to the things we can do AS individuals and collectively that actually SAVE money (like not shopping where you are racially profiled, like Barney’s) or spending money we can’t afford just to wear a white person’s name on our azzes.
If black people followed just a few of the suggestions in the “33 Rules of Disengagement” I believe a remarkable transformation of self-respect would take place. Not because I say so, but because the goal of respecting ourselves and reducing our white identification and the need for white validation would help over time to INCREASE our self-esteem and help us regain our COLLECTIVE SANITY.
But, I’m going on too long, so I’ll end on that note.
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I think something very sinister is going on, there is some foul play here, something is probably being covered up, I don’t think this is the real and true story of what caused this young woman’s death.
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^ I agree it is being covered up but why, why did they lie and why are they not at least releasing the killers name. I also wonder who hit her car, and if it was a hit and run. I know ppl wonder why she walked four blocks to this house, idk maybe she didn’t get an answer from the other homes and i wonder if they interviewed other surrounding neighbors to see if they heard anything or if she knocked at their door. Or could it be that the person that shot her could’ve been the one that hit her car and she saw the car outside and went to confront him.
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@ Ebonymonroe
I think it’s important to understand the cunning behind President Obama’s candidacy because we are looking at a parade of Trojan Horses, disguised as gifts that are designed to deceive and devastate us.
I don’t bash President Obama, not because I think he is innocent or is trying to do the right thing (he is not)
The reason I don’t bash him OR praise him is because I know he does not have power. That he was s(elected) and nominated and vetted and financed by the most powerful whites in the nation
That alone, means they are HIS boss, not the other way around. They tell him what to do, NOT the other way around.
For us to believe otherwise, is the same as believing the Italian mob would let a black male join the mob, then become the mob boss and start bossing around the same gangsters that let him join.
And to take it one step further, try to imagine the mob is having image problems and so they find a black male to be the head of their organization and that black guy decides, hey, these guys are murderers and crooks, and so I’m going to become mob boss so I can clean this mess up — and he shames the gangsters so much that they promise to “change” their ways.
as though a criminal mob would let an HONEST guy join the organization…
And if someone made a movie with a plot like this, we wouldn’t waste a dime on such an implausible and silly plot. Yet, that’s the story we bit on when we thought a black male could walk into the white house and start telling the most powerful gangsters on the planet what to do — and that some would listen. (NOT).
It was a SHAM, and another Trojan Horse designed to deceive us and make us let our guard down. We did, and we are suffering MORE today than we were five years ago. In fact, someone did a study (can’t remember where I read it) that said black people have done worse under the Obama administration than we did under the Bush admin.
And if you read the fable, “The Trojan Horse” it may be clearer what I’m talking about.
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@ Alicia
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you.
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ok so I see other articles that say she was in an accident but they don’t say whether it was just her car or another car.
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So the guy shot the person he thought was breaking into his house by accident?
It was self defense and an accident. Perfect.
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@Legion
I know, but I just hate seeing how a persons death becomes a joke to some of these trolls. I get the ones that want to challenge abagond (for whatever reason they feel it is needed), but those that say stuff along the lines of “unfortunately she is black” and tote out crime stats are just…trash.
And no I don’t take the response as “I am right and you are wrong.” Frankly I think you are fair minded enough to respond within reason that leads to an open and honest discussion. 🙂
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@ Legion
Oh no my comment landed in moderation. No, it is not bad.
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LOL
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yes sadly I know they more than likely won’t do anything. *sigh*. I notice it seems she walked a good way to get to his house and I wonder how many other doors she knocked on and why if she did did nobody answer or call the police.
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peanut I emailed u
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Reblogged this on revealingartisticthoughts and commented:
Those police officers along with the murderer should be thrown in jail for life!
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@ chen: Comment deleted for dehumanizing language and use of moderated words.
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I don’t understand why he needed a shotgun either. I mean if it is like the Da Jokah is saying then why answer the door at all. I mean it isn’t like I open the door for every Mormon or J.W. that rings the bell. It kind of smells of Chicken feces to me.
The media gives you this idea that the world is more dangerous, but that doesn’t seem to ring true. The only thing I am seeing are people are less courageous. Those that need help our are trying to get it are killed. In such a state of chickenville how are normal people supposed to respond. I don’t want to live in fear it stinks, it works on the nervous system, and taxes the brain and lowers you response time and makes you dumb.
I am glad I am home so I don’t have to answer every other foreigners question about why Americans are so chicken. I wonder if it was a mistake to bring my family here.
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Hi abagond, I came here from another blogger that listed you. And this is excellent! Not a peep from the media as usual(ignoring/erasure is one nasty thing and in GA..have mercy) .And I want to know is why do these “trollers”, think they are saying thing different from what people during the slavery era, Jim Crow, ect? You don’t have to be part of the KKK or some other white supremacists group to be an active racist. And along with these “trollers”,this shouldn’t be brushed away with,”Oh you! You just want attention!”,no, these are the people that are more the problem than the active racist. They scream and shout online, then act on passive-aggressive tendencies in real life. As the elders say,”Better the snake that hisses than the one who doesn’t”.
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@ peanut
They not on here because they don’t care, they just care about who black women date not when we are killed. Oh and can we expect them to be on here when one of them even said they don’t care if black women are raped, so surely if someone doesn’t care if black women are dissed or rapped they certainly won’t care if we are killed. The ones that push white men are gone too, hmm wonder why. The ones saying nbw are gone no surprise there because to both of them think we are like kids we need to be preached at and choose a side smh. I’m taking mental note of the people so don’t worry.
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Idk why he’s not arrested but if they won’t even release his name or a pic of him we know they won’t arrest him.
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I didn’t know what to say about this one. It’s tiring and honestly frightening how similar this is to Jonathan Ferrell’s murder. Extremely similar.
All I can say is that as much as we worry about young black men being shot due to continuous fear of black bodies in white neighborhoods, we must also know that black women should are in just as much danger. In every case like this where the murder was done by a white resident or a cop, the underlying excuse has always pointed to fear even if and when the victim had no weapon.
It’s the kind of fear people choose to hold on to.
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Idk peanut could be to wake more of us up and make us decide we need to come together and see who are for us and against us and who really care about us and who don’t. Black women are a threat too, sometimes we may forget that. I think especially us young people are becoming a target as we see the victims are in their teens.
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I have a theory. If Black women’s out of wedlock birthrate has dropped, if Black women are getting married, of Black women are surpassing every solitary group in college attendance, if Black women have prospered so much socially, that they’re now able to get loans as easily as White men, then there has to be a big push to stop all this progression.
From States side, I really do urge you sistas to contact your civil rights organizations and demand that they make a fuss over this in the same way they do for Black male fatalities. You guys can band together and do something. I’m sure a number of broth in your lives, and on this very sight would also be willing. You could start a timetable and call in to all your high profile organizations on the hour every hour, one person at a time. Start a petition, use the presence of Black twitter and bombard the news stations and every possible outlet to spread awareness. Write into all your local new station and newspapers, call in, too. There’s got to be at least 50 members of the African American community here, who would be willing to bombard the news stations and media of each and every state. Dishing out states to each and every person, for them to govern. I’m all the way in the UK, but I could help online.
Okay, this is it, what are you willing to do? Start a guest post a recruit and plan. But are you willing to do it. You could use all the recent deaths of Black girls and boys, women and men, and present it in the narrative of Renisha’s death, to highlight that it is becoming a real phenomena.
What are you willing to do.
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I hear many here (early in the thread especially) believe that whites are at war with blacks and are allowed to kill them with impunity. I feel the same, but from the opposite side. I feel that whites are being targeted and attacked, with many left dead, by violent, and in most cases, young blacks.
What does it mean when we see mirror images of the world?
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it makes no sense. they are saying she crashed about 1:30 am and the shooting at 3:40 am. and they say she was four blocks away from her car. what I don’t understand is how many homes did she go to for help and did any of them hear her ringing the bell but were sleep or didn’t answer. I have a hard time believing after 4 blocks nobody answered the door or called. I also wonder how long after the accident did she stay with her car and if maybe someone gave her a ride as walking 4 blocks after an accident is kinda a long way. Then I wonder if someone did give her a ride did they try to do anything to her and she got away and went to this guys house for help and he shot her. I wonder was he home all night and if anybody else can confirm that, as it makes no sense to shoot someone that comes to ur door it makes more sense to shoot someone that was trying to get away from u.
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hmm and telling the family two days later, ok I wonder if they checked to make sure all her organs were still there. And second why did they say the neighbors called 911 but he didn’t now they are saying he did. If he did then release the tapes. And what made the police say her body was dumped there, did the homeowner say that or did they come up with that lie on their own. they say accident and now its self defense so which is it ? oh I get it it’s a self defense accident smh.
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[…] "Renisha McBride (1994-2013), a 19-year-old Black American woman from Detroit, was shot dead in the nearby White American suburb of Dearborn Heights at 2.30am on Saturday November 2nd 2013.""The state has a Stand Your Ground law, like Florida where Trayvon Martin was killed. As journalist Rania Khalek notes on her blog:The problem with a law like Stand Your Ground is that it excuses and encourages deadly force against “perceived” threats. In the United States, where implicit and structural racism persists on a vast scale, is it wise to empower people who almost certainly have irrational and racist fears, to kill instead of call police who are trained (at least they’re supposed to be) to deal with potential threats?Race also appears to play a significant role in whether a homicide is deemed justifiable. A recent study conducted by John Roman of the Urban Institute’s Justice Policy Center found, “the odds that a white-on-black homicide is ruled to have been justified is more than 11 times the odds a black-on-white shooting is ruled justified,” a reflection of the racial disparities that plague all aspects of the US criminal justice system." […]
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@ Peanut
who said, ” they do not report us when we’re missing, they don’t report us when we’re killed..”
exactly.
A TV news program once reported that 30 percent of the young people who go missing are black but when you look at the news, you would think all the missing children and young adults are white.
as a black female, I feel the same, about having no protection from anyone, and that reality goes back to slavery where black males were not allowed to protect their women and children and so this behavior becomes ingrained over hundreds of years — that black females do not need to be protected
that’s why i feel so many black females have so much “attitude” — it’s a defensive act to ward off verbal and physical attacks and a way of expressing our deep, deep hurt and anger at the way we have been treated.
And NO ONE has been degraded and mistreated as badly as the black female in america.
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It’s all pretty damn senseless, and I am tired and angry and frightened. This could happen to any of us. It doesn’t matter what age you are. They are killing children and young black men and elderly black men in their homes. I am just so sick and tired of being sick and tired of hearing about this this. It frightens me because on my way to work in the mornings I have to go through an all white neighborhood, and my mind starts working overtime, maybe I am paranoid from reading about all this stuff on the internet, but this stuff really does happen. Right here in my city, the little black boy was shot in his face playing in his apartment complex, by some crazed white man. This is really is freaking me out.
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As I said I feel for her loved ones but it’s a mystery why they are not releasing the killers name, to know that she was injured in a car crash is bad enough but the help that she sought by knocking on that door was sadly what would be the result that ended up killing her.
In the killers defence it was allegedly 2·30 in the morning,so I can understand a gun at your disposal,but what led him to allegedly pushing the trigger accidentally,after all she was in no position to fight or defend herself…it all sounds very strange.
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If he was so afraid, why the hell didn’t he just call 911. But who knows what would have happened with the police, they might have just shot her too, look at Jonathan Ferrell, it’s hard to know what to do. That poor woman in D.C. got blown away with her young child in the car.
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The police are pretty trigger happy and wanting to zap innocent citizens with tasers, remember 68year old Kenneth Chamberlain in White Pains New York, they killed that poor man, because he accidently activated his emergency medical pendant, the Renisha Mcbride incident, has a lot of holes in it. Something is very wrong with this scenario. And what’s worse the perpetrator of this crime will go free just like George Zimmerman. Black lives mean nothing in America.
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*White Plains, New York*
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I wonder how long it will take for them to dig up her facebook and social media and try to find a record, hmm my bet is they will do that long before they release the name or 911 tapes of the killer. smh
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^ yeah some ppl are already questioning if she was drunk or under the influence and went to the wrong house thinking it was someone she knew. I don’t know nothing makes sense. I know they did an autopsy but didn’t release anything other than she was shot in the head. I think we as black people need to get a second autopsy done from somebody else when things like this happen. we can’t trust them to always give an accurate autopsy and tell the full truth.
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When people say, “so now what are black people gonna do” they are asking the wrong goddamned question.
The onus is not on black people to stop being murdered by white people any more than it is a woman’s responsibility NOT to be raped.
We don’t need to teach black people how NOT to get killed. We need to teach white people that their behavior is out of control and they must be stopped. Collectively.
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@ThatDebbrahgirl: Well said. That was so on point.
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@ Peanut
You’re right about not reporting black females (or males) who go missing or killed. I saw an TV news show years ago that reported that over 30 percent of the young people who go missing are black.
When you look at the news, you would think all the missing children and young adults are white.
Black females having no protection from anyone—including black males—originated during slavery where black males were not allowed to protect their women and children.
After hundreds of years, this behavior (and belief system) becomes ingrained — that black females do not need or deserve to be protected
I feel a lot of black females have “attitude” as a way of self-defense in a hostile white AND black world – and expresses our deep, deep hurt and anger at the way we have been treated since the first slave female stepped off the ship. NO ONE has been degraded and mistreated as badly as the black female in america.
Unfortunately, black females have also internalized a contempt and dislike for OTHER black females—and the reality shows prey upon this anti-black-female-ness, showing black females calling each other the most horrible names you could call another person – not realizing when you call black females “rachet h*o” and “h*o” and “b**tch” we are also saying that about ourselves. And the white supremacist media and their black pawns are being used to demonize black females.
This is something we must do something about because these images go out all over the world.
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@ ThatDeborahGirl
You made a great point.
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@ Trojan Pam: Great points. There is something very not right concerning this young woman’s death, and we may never know what really happened.
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White people, they haven’t copped to their sad need to ritually kill in this satanic-ass society and there favored choice for sacrifice? Black people.
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@ mary burrell
just like Kendrick Johnson (the young black male found dead inside a rolled-up gym mat?) is a “mystery” — meaning the POLICE and the KILLER are in on the cover-up, just they are in the Renisha McBride case
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I don’t normally talk with you Riverside Rob. I don’t really believe you, I do believe there might be hatred aimed at you. I don’t believe you have ever had a gun pointed at your head. Twice in my life I have had that happen by a white person. Both times while I was just High School age, one by an adult the other by another teen. When was the last time you have had a gun pointed directly at your head? I don’t mean theoretically I mean actually had a gun pointed at your head. Have you ever felt trapped or lead into a place you didn’t want to be. While in boarding school I was walking through our grounds and two squatters pulled me and two of my friends into a trailer. These squatters never pulled a gun to my head but they had rifles all in their trailer and lots of neo-Nazi signs around. They were telling my friends how worthless they were for hanging out with N___r. They were talking about killing N—- before we N’s supposedly infiltrate and kill them. You bet I was scared you bet this country is screwed up.
You may be media scare or heard a story from someone. I have not had to worry from the passive side, this country has tried to make my fear active. The only reason I probably didn’t die of fright was because when I was little in the 80′s I had to walk in one of the most racist areas of Chicago.
There walking every day the stupid day camp would take us to a park known to have Klan marches. Everyday I had to pass by old people who would spit and throw bottles and call me N—–. So yes, Riverside I do not believe you know the meaning of real fear. I think you just read and have gotten frighten, or watched and gotten frighten, or heard stories.
Even here and now, I have just got back from 13 years of travel and within the first month there was old racism right here to greet me. I tell you some associates don’t get the hint, I wish I had left those experiences in the past but this is the sad state of America.
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God help us all. There is definitely an increase in the extrajudicial murder of black and brown people.
http://sfappeal.com/2013/11/mission-district-protest-planned-for-police-shooting-of-13-year-old-boy/
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[…] Renisha McBride was a 19 year-old black female who was a victim of a car accident late at night. She survived, and went out seeking for help in Dearborn Heights, a suburb in Detroit. She came to one house and moments later was shot to death by the homeowner who is white. […]
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I’m very leery of those supposed “missing hours” between when they say Renisha’s accident occurred and her murder. Media is trying to spin it as some sort of “oh see, just WHAT was that Black woman DOING during that missing time? Up to no good, I’m SURE. Must have deserved to be shot and killed”.
I’m not sure there are even any missing hours in the timeline anyway, when I consider the source of that information. And if I did accept it as gospel, well then the first thing that pops into mind is she was knocked the heck out for awhile and then spent another good while waiting for a passerby or a car driving by to flag for help (which she prolly did and was ignored), and then spent another good while stumbling around disoriented in that 4 block radius from her car, knocking on doors (getting ignored some more), trying to get help etc.
Want to talk about fuzzy timelines? It’s shady as hell what the murderer did between when he pulled that trigger and when (and during!) there was finally contact with law enforcement. Let’s talk about THOSE hours.
Moving her body, sitting around trying to come up with a story, in collusion with the police, getting lawyer’ed up – and lets talk about THE TWO DAYS it took for Renisha’s family to be notified. How about those timelines?
I’m with Peanut, just waiting, watching the countdown to the trashing of Renisha’s character in the media. They had to tighten up the image of the murderer first – from shooter or gunman to homeowner and (the archaic term) householder. From body dump to accidental shooting to justified killing.
The trashing of Renisha in (count down with me) 3… 2… 1…
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The killer is lawyered up, the killer’s lawyer says her client was justified in his actions.
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And yes, just like they trashed Trayvon Martin’s character calling him a thug, they will try to trash and tarnish this young woman’s character.
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They will try to tarnish this young woman’s character and scandalize her name.
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oh yep I can see them saying things about her now. What was she doing out that late yep up to no good. Oh she went through 2 cars ya see she is a terrible driver and thus a terrible person. She didn’t stay with her car yep that makes her a bad person. smh
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Here’s what I said on my blog about Renisha McBride and Jonathan Ferrell:
“Jonathan Ferrell was engaged to be married. He owned a dog and cat. And he was a chemistry major with a 3.7 GPA.
Renisha McBride was a soft-spoken woman who kept to herself and had gotten a job at the Ford Motor Company.
Yet, that is not enough to be respected in society. Nothing is ever enough to earn respect in a white dominated society if you’re not white. Let’s not mince words here.”
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@Riverside Bob
Indeed, I want to know how it is you came to feel this way, or if you have been receiving this information from the media, or perhaps through some isolated anecdotal reports from a couple white people you met.
I have been the recipient of violence from both blacks and whites. Here is selective sample:
* In my childhood, my home was attacked and vandalized by white neighbors and the older teenage boys chased me and beat me up.
* When I was 20, a white guy jumped off a motorcycle with his friend while I was walking up to my house and tried to pick a fight with me, punched me in the mouth, breaking my teeth and cracking my gums. I had to wear my gums in wires for 6 months. I later learned that he went to high school with my brother and later went up to him saying that if he had known it was his brother, he wouldn’t have punched and beaten him.
* At age 24, when my parents split up my father was trying to kick me out too. I found a place to live and right after I signed the lease, I was moving stuff into the unit — a black guy ran up behind me, punched me and then choked me until I passed out, I started to come to, and he kicked me in the face and mouth with his sneakers and choked me again until I passed out. I was hoping I had died (as I was trying to get away from my father), but I later came too, in a pool of my own blood, but without my bag, wallet and watch. A white lady drove by in her car right then, saw me lying there bleeding on the street, but just pulled into her back garage and DID nothing. I laid there for a while, but finally had the strength to walk out to the main street. Passersby (most white and Latino) just stared and avoided me, but then a black lady came by and asked me what happened. She went and got the police for me, who drove me to the hospital. My lips were all busted, my face blew up like a balloon, and my neck vertebrae had been pulled back and apart, but were not broken.
–> this was a case where a young black guy attacked me (a non-black) in a very violent manner, and left me for dead. So, I do in fact have a very personal experience of the case you alluded to. Do you?
* at age 30, in NYC, a couple of black guys accosted me in a subway car, put of knife to my neck and cleaned out all my pockets. the other passengers did not move and looked away while this was going on. I got off at Times Square and told the police desk staffed by white policemen. They did nothing, wouldn’t even take a report.
This is just anecdotal, but I never felt it was blacks who were the main perpetrators of violent crime. If anything, white people are often less trustworthy.
I have other stories, but they trouble me to think about too much. In fact, one of my motivation to leave the USA was the constant problem of street crime, by both blacks and whites and the terrible police who are not there to protect their citizens (unless they are white and wealthy).
Have you had dozens of violent encounters by blacks and by blacks only to give you your “feelings” that whites are particularly targeted by blacks? Even if you heard of an anecdotal case where that happened, much makes you think that blacks are not targeted by whites at rates far in excess of the ones you are thinking of.
I suspect you are just a big fan of the TV show “COPS”.
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^ dam jefe that is crazy I’ve never been in a fight in my 19 years of living and it seems you’ve been through a lifetime of violence. sorry all that happened to u, it is a shame that a lot of ppl will not help. I mean we can watch the news or see news articles about people in other countries driving by someone that got hurt and say omg how could they but people do that right here smh. idk what is wrong with society anymore ppl are just getting colder and colder, I mean is it the movies, video games and other media, as well as parents being emotionally distant more nowadays to their kids. just craziness.
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@mstoogood4yall
Blacks, Native Americans and Asians have been targeted by whites and beaten up and killed by whites in the USA for hundreds of years with impunity. It is not a “new” 21st century phenomenon attributable to video games and emotionally distant parents.
I think it is more a situation where people think the past is past, and we are in the 21st century where people don’t do that anymore, but in fact they do. Or people only do it in other countries and not in the USA. The news media will show people passing by someone dying in the street in China after a criminal act (eg, hit and run) and do nothing. I was unconscious in a pool of blood on the street after getting beaten and robbed and ignored by passers by, yet I did not make the news at all. Well, maybe if had actually died . . .
I am not denying that whites have never been beaten or killed by non-whites. Of course they have. But it certainly is not the case that whites have more to fear than non-whites from violence. That is a myth perpetrated by interest groups who promote that agenda. Go and watch “Bowling for Columbine” again.
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@ jefe
I’m sorry you’ve experienced so much violence! Have you considered talking to someone because you might be suffering from some form of post traumatic stress–and justifiably so. I wish you well.
Of course, non-whites have targeted whites for violence but it is ridiculous to me for whites to think they should be immune from street crime–or from the JUSTIFIABLE WRATH of their victims.
With all the damage whites have done to blacks and non-whites in ALL areas of human activity — economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, poltics, religion, sex, AND war — I think blacks and non-whites have been OVERALL, amazingly non-violent toward whites
because there is no way in H, whites would have patiently and non-violently tolerated that treatment from us. As soon as a non-white person SNEEZES in their direction, they want to pull out a pistol and start shooting.
All this blathering nonsense from some of these white posters about what WE do to them? There’s no comparison and there has been no people more violent to other people AND the planet than white people. All the environmental damage has been done BY white people, All the species and planet life and insect life, and pollution and oil spills and contamination of food, air, water, biological weapons, bombs, high powered weapons — done by white people
And yet someone (white) has the nerve and the audacity to talk about “black on white crime” with NO STATISTICS OR LINKS to back that mess up
when even the FBI says that most crime is INTRA-RACIAL (the victims and criminals are of the same ethnic group), NOT INTERRACIAL
and whenever I’ve laid that little detail on a white person who makes this false claim, all of a sudden statistics can’t be trusted. That’s why usually I ignore those false claims of such great mistreatment of whites at the hands of blacks because it is sociopathic behavior, and that’s what SOCIOPATHS do: they shift the blame for their behavior onto their VICTIMS.
and there’s one more difference. When a black or non-white person victimizes or is even accused of victimizing a white person — even when there is no evidence, the law and the police come after us FULL FORCE
but the reverse is seldom true. Usually, the white person is either not investigated, or is given the benefit of a doubt, or a slap on the wrist,
or is acquitted of all charges.
It is a rare for a white person to go to prison for harming a non-white person, and I bet if we could review the criminal convictions of most white inmates we would find the majority are in prison because they victimized a white person OR committed a crime against a white company.
And this turning the other cheek to the violent behavior of white youth and white adults against non-white people is one reason that whites can no longer go into an airport, a movie theater, an office building, a school, or a shopping mall without looking over their shoulder
FOR ANOTHER WHITE PERSON TO HARM THEM
Karma is a B
(cold but true)
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(correction — I meant to say)
“And this turning a blind eye to the violent behavior of white youth and white adults against non-white people is one reason that whites can no longer go into an airport, a movie theater, an office building, a school, or a shopping mall without looking over their shoulder…
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And yet someone (white) has the nerve and the audacity to talk about “black on white crime” with NO STATISTICS OR LINKS to back that mess up
I’d be happy to provide you with statistics.
Of course, non-whites have targeted whites for violence but it is ridiculous to me for whites to think they should be immune from street crime–or from the JUSTIFIABLE WRATH of their victims.
You think “non-whites” who “target whites for violence” are “victims” who are “justified”. That’s how sick you are.
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@ Da Jokah
If you have RELIABLE statistics, you would have posted them before now, so let’s move on…
The ONLY reason I’m responding to you is because you twisted what I said. I never once advocated violence against whites.
However, given the TRACK RECORD of white violence against non-white people here and all over the world for HUNDREDS OF YEARS, it should not be surprising that whites are occasionally the victims of violence themselves from non-white people–AND each other.
Especially, each other.
and that is the irony of conversations like this, is that white people KNOW they have more to fear from other white people than from black or non-white people–and i don’t need to provide any stats for that.
Just watch the daily news reports. And talk to white people about how they treat each other and ask white females who have been raped or molested who is doing most of the raping and molesting.
They won’t say black or non-white males
Ask white males who have been sexually abused as children who is doing most of the molesting and raping
They won’t say black or non-white males.
YET, some (not all) white people (like you) spend (waste) a great deal of time and energy thinking and talking and getting spurred up about the black boogey men and women (who are largely figments of their SICK and racist imaginations)
instead of focusing on their white kin and children who are being molested, raped, beaten, robbed, and cheated (out of jobs and pensions) and murdered in huge numbers by
OTHER WHITE PEOPLE
of course, a SOCIOPATH doesn’t understand that kind of logic because everything he or she does and says and thinks is justified via their mental and moral illness.
So, think whatever you want. Agree or disagree.
I could care less.
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Yes…provide them.
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TrojanPam, he can’t handle! Keep going!
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@ phoebeprunelle
even if he did, there are hundreds of websites spewing that same nonsense written by other sociopathic racists so he won’t convince me no matter what he posts.
check out this site and you’ll see what I mean (about whites preying on each other)
http://cynicalafrikan.com/
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try this link if the other doesn’t work.
http://www.cynicalafrikan.com/
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@ Aj
Anyone who doesn’t agree that Renisha McBride did not deserve to be murdered because she knocked on a door, isn’t worth the time it takes to post to them
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@ jefe
I know I was mainly talking about the people that passed by, I see too many vids of people beating somebody up while others walk by or get out their phones and record it and post online instead of calling 911. The perpetrators of these crimes are wrong but so are the ppl that don’t at least call 911 I mean I understand not wanting to get into a fight with that person but once they leave people can help. I watched bowling for columbine once I know its not all on the media but society and the way people become desensitized to a lot of things and then start being cold and not caring about helping somebody.
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Michael Moore (maker of “Bowling for Columbine”) is a gift from God.
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“…people become desensitized to a lot of things and then start being cold and not caring about helping somebody.”
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~MsTooGood
Yep.. until it’s them on the other end in need of help/saving. Then they quickly seem to CARE a lot.
Funny, isn’t it, how that works!
People become desensitized to others by willingly absorbing an unhealthy daily dose of gossip, TV, radio, newspaper, mags, etc.. negativity (in the guise of so-called NEWS!!) that is designed to do exactly that.. numb their soul/spirit.
It makes them more pliable/programmable sheep to be used to the financial benefit of those at the very top.
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Jefe, my fighting days are behind me, I’m too old for that stuff – that’s why I conceal carry.
When I was younger, I got into a fair number of scrapes, mostly over girls or bragging and booze, with other white guys. The two times I was attacked for no damn reason (other than entertainment) involved blacks taking a sucker punch and following up with kicks in the face in one instance, the other I followed up by stabbing the sob twice, ending the fight post haste.
http://nypost.com/2013/11/10/cops-bust-alleged-bryant-park-skating-rink-shooter/
Here’s a link form todays’ headlines, a black kid shoots two guys for their jacket. This is what I mean Jefe, feral black young men and boys, on the warpath with civilization. It’s not my imagination, it’s a growing phenomenon and it’s begging to include feral black females too.
http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2012/07/why-blacks-attack-old-white-people.html
You can check this list of reported black on old white people attacks if you’d like. Of course I think you’ll scoff at the source that compiled the list, but the stories are verifiable via link. The fact that a young woman is killed by accident, by a white guy (I think) has lead to many posters here to state – white’s are killing blacks with impunity. You haven’t used your excellent skills at argument to debunk that, so I take you agree with it. So here’s my gauntlet tossed at your feet. Find a list, or compile one, for instances over say the last decade, where blacks have been killed by white in a crime situation. I’ll read it and judge for myself if your list is equivalent to mine – it may very well be that you’re right, whites are slaughtering blacks because they’re black. If you can show me that – I’ll admit I’m wrong and go away.
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Jefe,
Just re-read your post and came away within another insight – you were accosted by blacks on a subway, knife to your throat and robbed. You were beaten and nearly strangled to death by another black while moving into your apartment at 24, in both instances; you’re more upset that no one else did anything to help, than you are that the thugs preyed upon you. Who are you most upset with in the motorcycle riding face puncher episode – the attacker?
That may be the biggest difference between us – it’s not our color or culture, it’s our sense of responsibility – whose responsible for my safety (me) whose responsible for criminal behavior (criminals) not the by standers – who by human nature are likely just freaking happy that it didn’t happen to them. Most people are sheep, there are a few who will stand up for themselves, fewer who will stand up for a stranger. Get right with that and be responsible for yourself. In either case, the police are only there to write up the report after the assault, we are all on our own.
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@ ebonymonroe
lol, I can’t remember if it was in the bowling for columbine documentary or another one but the part where he had black ppl trade their black wallets for orange wallets and talking to nypd and saying now u can tell this is a wallet and not a gun was one of my favorite parts.
@ matari
Yeah it is funny how ppl only care when things affect them or ppl that look like them. Even then some ppl don’t even care about the ppl that look like them, especially if they are of a different class, gender, sexual orientation, country, etc.
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@Riverside_Rob
I tend to believe you seek for certain information to confirm your already set in stone bias. Then you ask others to find information to prove your bias wrong. If the blog you posted was indeed a fair one then it would provide information in both instances, but it provides nothing more than a list of blacks killing elderly whites. Which I don’t doubt the author of said blog took his time to search for information that did nothing more than confirm his bias as well. I am sure Jefe will respond in a very enlightening manner.
On a side not…how do you accidentally shoot someone in the face?
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@ Jefe
If you decide to compile this list for riverside_rob I can bet that his next argument will be in regards to one being longer than the other.
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trojanpam
If you have RELIABLE statistics, you would have posted them before now, so let’s move on…
https://abagond.wordpress.com/open-thread/#comment-201144
The ONLY reason I’m responding to you is because you twisted what I said. I never once advocated violence against whites.
Average Bee advocated killing whites. You said the violence was “justified”.
and that is the irony of conversations like this, is that white people KNOW they have more to fear from other white people than from black or non-white people–and i don’t need to provide any stats for that.
Most victimization is intraracial because people are more likely to live near and socialize with people of their own race not because someone of another race poses less risk. Though the black crime rate is so high I can certainly see why you’d think people of other races pose less risk to you.
And talk to white people about how they treat each other and ask white females who have been raped or molested who is doing most of the raping and molesting.
Most rapes are homosexual and occur in prison. Why not ask them who’s doing most of the raping?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2449454/More-men-raped-US-women-including-prison-sexual-abuse.html
Ask white males who have been sexually abused as children who is doing most of the molesting and raping
More children are molested by relatives, stepparents and family friends than strangers. Does this mean it’s less risky to leave children in the care of strangers? Of course not. It’s simply a reflection of the fact that relatives, stepparents and family friends are more likely to have access to these children than strangers. Otherwise, molestations by strangers would be much higher. Similarly, most people don’t leave their children in the care of someone of another race. Otherwise, the number of interracial child molestations would be much higher as well. After all, blacks have a higher rate of child molestation so one certainly wouldn’t expect blacks to pose less risk.
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Riverside Rob:
This is what I mean Jefe, feral black young men and boys, on the warpath with civilization. It’s not my imagination, it’s a growing phenomenon and it’s begging to include feral black females too.
Are there NO stories on white crime in the same newspaper/online article? Do you think it would be hard to find similar crimes committed by whites? If so, why?
I have been in countless brawls in my youth and early twenties yet I winced when I read what Jefe put but you seem to question more why he is not more scared of black people – you think those attacks are more severe. But, as far as I can see, both the incidents with black people that were described, there was a motive – robbery. THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT OF COURSE. However, in the case of the other attacks by non blacks – they seem random which generally would sh1t most people up. Getting attacked by just walking down the road and being ‘you’.
I am sceptical that a black person randomly came up to you and started on you for nothing – probably like most young lads with all the fights you were in that you won, you got bolder and cockier – I bet fighting with a black man and, most importantly winning, would have been the ultimate victory for you as you seem to feel so scared and threatened by them. In this case I think you should take some of the advice you gave to Jefe
Get right with that and be responsible for yourself.
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@Omnipresent
You raise excellent points.
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@ Da Jokah
I won’t ask for a direct quote where I advocated violence because I didn’t say it
I won’t tell you that a LINK to a NEWSPAPER ARTICLE that says:
“More men are raped in the U.S. than women”
does not prove more whites are raped by blacks.
In fact, it says NOTHING about the race of perpetrators VS their victims, nor does it give stats on rapes by PRISON GUARDS and officials.
Nor does it say how many people NEVER report their rapes.
In fact, (and I’m not being sarcastic here) your entire post is a jumbled and biased justification for your own personal beliefs about black people,
and frankly, it’s a waste of my time reading and responding to it
Believe what you want. You don’t like black people, fine.
Moving on…
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@ ALL
Just a heads-up about the
National blackout drill November 13-14, 2013
(in case you haven’t heard. It seems the mainstream media isn’t talking about this)
http://racismws.com/2013/11/11/national-blackout-drill-november-13-14-2013/
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Also, the examples given by Jefe where the police did not do a report show that only part of the truth is put out there – the rest is often a distortion of reality.
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Sharina:
@Omnipresent
You raise excellent points
Thanks – I have examples like your good self amongst others to work towards
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@Omnipresent
Thanks 🙂
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Omnipresent
Also, the examples given by Jefe where the police did not do a report show that only part of the truth is put out there – the rest is often a distortion of reality.
The FBI surveys the population asking people whether they’ve been a victim of a crime along with details. There’s pretty good agreement between the surveys and police reports.
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Riverside_Rob
What is it with you and black-on-white attacks? It’s as if you’re trying to show that black people are more dangerous to whites.
Here’s the deal. I was robbed by a black dude once, but did I hold it against the entire population? No. I did hold it against this one black dude. I didn’t turn this one singular incident into a sweeping indictment on the entire group. To do so makes no sense.
I was bullied by whites in high school, but I didn’t conclude that all white males are jerks. Just the ones I had the misfortune of having classes with.
Yes. I know there are black-on-white crimes. No one denies that. But as Ominpresent excellently said, it seems to some folks black-on-white crimes are somehow worse or more significant than white-on-black crimes. Thus, whenever there’s a topic like this one where a white person kills a black person, certain people will show up with statistics and article links to show black-on-white crime. That’s disrespectful.
It’s like saying we can’t have a moment to come together and discuss an ongoing problem. It’s asserting your privilege onto a topic for self-serving reasons without the regard for those who are genuinely concerned.
Again, no one denies there are black-on-crimes. We know they happen. But we also know that crime is not a black thing. We can not agree that most crime in this country is committed by people who look like us, those of us who are black. And we know crime is more than just direct violence. There is also institutional or systematic violence committed from offices by men in suits.
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@jefe: Oh My God Jefe, I am so sorry that happened, that hurt my heart reading that. Once again, I am so sorry. Peace and Blessings.
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@ Jefe, I feel we left for basically the same reason. I’d just had enough of Americans in general. I just didn’t believe that this country fosters the right type of attitude.
I am thoroughly familiar with the saw it but didn’t see a thing. One because where I came from if you got involved with the police the police tend to pin bad things to you. I hate trouble but it seems to love me. I can only say I am glad that those experiences didn’t kill you. I can only say as someone who has struggled to the hospital after being attacked you somehow find the will to move and live. Even if you felt like death would have been a great rest.
I dislike having to wonder if in the moment I need help will those around me kill me. Just like the movie Night of the Living Dead, you make it through so much and when you think you have made it through you get killed by those who could or should have helped you.
One of the hardest lessons I learned in life was getting a whooping by my parents. However, I realized after getting beaten to a pulp that the experience got me through. I knew pain, and pain was not going to kill me. My wife cannot understand these experience because she never needed to think in those terms.
Yet crawling back home, at night, while people looked at me and could obviously see that something had happen to me made me angry. Made me want to fight back (not at that time because I really had one thing on my mind during those times and it was home). In a world of invisible color lines, strange ethnic codes, and unwritten boundaries it was hard to understand people. I wonder, Jefe how did you get through? I always wonder how others got through it. I lost so many different people to this fear that I wonder how others made it through. I only made it through because I loved myself more than anything else in the whole world, Ioved my friends and family deeply but I knew that it took so many of my ancestors to go through hell to produce me, that I could let go of life. I didn’t deserve that right when I know they went through so much more to get me. It was the reason I decided that I would fight, I would record, I would not be pushed down no matter what I got. Yet here is another person who made it through something horrible and was trying to get help.
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@Brothawolf
well said.
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@ King Of Trouble
” I feel we left for basically the same reason. I’d just had enough of Americans in general. I just didn’t believe that this country fosters the right type of attitude.”
This is the point where I am now. I know this feeling all too well.
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@Trojan Pam,
It was not the only problems I was facing. For example, when I tried to move at age 24, my parents had had a series of violent encounters and my mom had just moved out on her own, and my father was trying to harass me for “letting her do it” – throwing out my mail and documents, not letting me sleep at night. I had to get out – only to get beat up while trying to do so. The week before my mother moved out my father was holding a knife in front of my mother while he was angry for her not cooking dinner. I tried to grab it from him and he pushed me back against the stove, causing it to catch fire. Neighbors called the fire department.
Actually, my parents had been violent throughout my childhood, my only thought was to get away from them.
Work was also bad too. That is another long post. The long shot was — I decided to leave the USA. I found it to be a very violent place in general, not to mention racist. It is not just whites on blacks or blacks on whites; I found it to be a very violent society. Now I live in a place where there is essentially no violent street crime, no murders. I can walk around any neighborhood, even the poorest, at any hour and not fear violent encounters. I attribute that partially to no guns for private citizens.
That does not stop bystander indifference. I was hit by a taxi 2 years ago on a very busy commercial street. Not one single person came to help me. All the taxi driver did was ask me if was going to call the police. No one offered to call the police or ambulance or get me any help. Luckily my mobile phone still worked. I could call the police myself.
@Sharina.
Riverside Rob is wrong about my concern (that the main or only point was about whether people were there to help). My point was that white people are certainly as violent as blacks, if not more so. I was attacked more often by whites than blacks, although I must admit that the ones which involved robbery tended to be black more than white. White people seem to attack more for just for the hell of it. I am not excusing either one.
I am not going to complete my list, just notice that Riverside_Bob reminds me of my brother. He was the sort who joined groups of white boys in his late teens that would have confrontation with blacks, some violent. I was reminded it of it when I saw the video and news report of that beating in Florida a few weeks ago, and saw that one of the perpetrators was a Eurasian teenager. Anyhow, my brother carried a set of Nunchaku and would bring it out and flip it around blacks to intimidate them.
I am totally against conceal and carry and stand your ground mindsets. That is part of what makes the USA so violent. But I do not want the discussion with R_B to devolve into that. I have to go to see the dentist now (ha-ha, part of the reason is the tooth that was cracked and broken from my incident at age 20-21) – it has given me problems my whole life.
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@KOT
Yet, you went back.
I still can’t fathom the idea of dealing with Americans on a daily basis.
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Sharina and KOT
That’s how I feel everyday. I’ve had enough of America personally, but right now, I can’t go anywhere else. So, I take it one day at a time, even though most of it is indirect. Still, I was victim of racism someway or another. It wasn’t physically violent, but it was systematic. I didn’t get injured, but my self-esteem was harmed. I felt humiliated and less than a person. That’s what institutional violence does, it tries to break spirits, and bodies if they want to.
Sure, some people will argue that it’s not the same as being robbed by blacks. But this is not about comparative suffering. It’s about the fact that I was one of many harmed because I “looked” suspicious.
Sadly, there are people like Renisha that doesn’t get to speak for themselves.
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@ jeje
Where do you live now?
Also, you made a very important point when you said:
“My point was that white people are certainly as violent as blacks, if not more so. I was attacked more often by whites than blacks, although I must admit that the ones which involved robbery tended to be black more than white. White people seem to attack more for just for the hell of it. I am not excusing either one. ”
MOST of the violent crimes committed by black people are economic crimes, which include robbery, burglary, pickpocketing, shoplifting, etc. Extreme poverty and oppression also create anger and feelings of hopelessness, which leads some people (not most) to acting out their anger toward strangers.
I doubt there are any significant number of middle-income and wealthy blacks committing armed robbery or beating whites up on the street, but that FACT doesn’t figure into all this stereotyping of “violent blacks” by the sociopathic, racist mindset. To them, all blacks are essentially the same, although there might be a few “good ones.” (but they really don’t like them either).
While, (some) white people attack black people NOT because of oppression or poverty or injustice — but simply for the FUN OF IT.
You know were the word “picnic” comes from? From whites celebrating the lynching or burning alive of a black person, and taking souvenirs from the dead black body while eating and enjoying the great outdoors with their white children
THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BLACK VIOLENCE AND WHITE VIOLENCE.
Like that man who murdered Renisha McBride. He wanted to kill her as soon as he saw that black face at his door. It didn’t matter that she was a young black female. All he saw was a chance to have his own personal PICNIC and he PIC-NICKED her for his victim.
Had he been afraid for his own safety he would have called 911 and NOT answered the door. If someone knocks on my door at 2am, be sure I am NOT going to open it. If they continue, I call the police, I do NOT open my door (cause I’m afraid) and start blasting. That’s a ridiculous scenario.
I also do not believe in concealed carry laws amongst a population as violent and racist as the one in the U.S. OR any place where white supremacy exists.
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@ King of Trouble
that was one H of a testimony. I hope sharing it helps someone else who has experienced the same.
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@Trojan Pam: In one of the suburbs of my city, the news reported that a group of women in favor of conceal and carry, walked into a blackeye pea restaurant. They were trying to recruit other people to join their group. I wonder why all those gun enthusiast are white people.
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@ mary burrell
I think white people are reacting to the “rallying cry” worldwide of the “non-white threat” whether it be from Iran, or Mexico or the south side of Chicago.
And violence is rising against non-white people all over Europe, Russia, the UK, and the U.S. I fear murders like Renisha McBride may only be the beginning — which is why i push so hard for black unity (which has nothing to do with hating white people or advocating violence against white people).
Movies have stoked up this BLOOD LUST with movies like “The Purge” and “Django Unchained” and “Planet of the Apes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 59, etc” and all the ALIEN movies that show good white society being attacked by non-white ALIENS.
I used to wonder why Hollywood was making all these alien movies and now, I think I understand why. They’re a white rallying cry to get whites collectively on board to defend white land, white live, and white territory (which they think is the entire planet (sic)
And the deliberate and systematic (s)election of a black president during a time of great uncertainty, fear, anger, government intrusion and economic pain was NO accident.
It was all by design — to give the white collective a BLACK FACE to target for their rage. And a black Attorney General who they believe wants to take their guns from them — again, all by DESIGN
The whites in power know their subjects well because they trained them to always focus on non-whites. That’s why so many whites were in favor of attacking Iraq — because it meant killing non-white people. Some didn’t care that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. It all had to do with satisfying that BLOOD LUST to spill non-white blood.
I used to work at a job where I was the only black person amongst a group of white males and whenever they talked politics it was always the non-white nation that needed to be “bombed back into the Stone Age” and I would think, what the H is that about? Why do they have so little concern for killing other people? I never heard that kind of comment when it came to a disagreement with a white nation. Well, duh…
So, unfortunately, I think this BLOOD LUST is inherent, biological, genetic, and a primitive response to survival — and is not something that can be erased, only controlled. There is something about making non-white people suffer that seems to be a greatest aphrodisiac than sexual intercourse.
Again, I default to what Dr. Welsing says as to the cause of white supremacy and that is fear of white genetic annihilation which creates hostility and aggression on a conscious and unconscious level toward non-white people.
And history seems to bear out her theory.
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@Trojan Pam
Can’t you see the “Yellow Peril” symbolism? But I think the actual terror is more like “Forbidden Planet” – the ID from within.
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@ jefe
Right, didn’t they make some movies about it, showing “yellow people” attacking good white people?
It’s funny how whites invade all the non-white nations and then say they are the victims of non-whites?
wow…
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I am so sad to hear about Renisha McBride’s death. She was so young, beautiful and headed for a bright future until some racist skinhead decided to end her life because he thought she was an ”intruder”. Her death was sad and unnecessary, just like Trayvon Martin and Jonathan Ferrell’s death.
What is up with these Whites killing off young, Black people like this?
I am a young, Black woman in their age group myself and I find these stories terrifying and scary. These stories confirm my fears on why I am scared to walk out the door and wonder what will happen to me if I stay out too late. America is getting even more dangerous for young, Black people like me to walk around and travel without being harassed, beaten or killed. I thought I would have been writing this in 1955 but this is still an issue for young Blacks like me trying to survive out in the world today.
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on Tue 12 Nov 2013 at 00:28:00 Brothawolf
Riverside_Rob
What is it with you and black-on-white attacks? It’s as if you’re trying to show that black people are more dangerous to whites.
Well yeah, I tried to show that my feelings about being targeted by blacks are the moral equivalent of other posters feelings about being targeted by whites.
You missed it though, you skimmed over Linda’s” it’s “open season” against black people and all these racist punks think they can shoot a black person and get away with it because of the Stand Your Ground law”
You missed Kushite Prince’s “This is sickening! But expected in a system of white supremacy. My thoughts and prayers go out to her family.”
And you missed Trojan Pam’s opening rant “Can you imagine this government or its white citizenry allowing kittens or puppies to sit on a roof for three or four days without attempting a massive rescue? I can’t, but they let black men, women, and children sit stranded and dying for days after Hurricane Katrina only later to demonize and blame them for their own gross mistreatment. That should have spoke VOLUMES to black people but unfortunately, even that was soon forgotten.”
Don’t forget Matari’s “White folks have been getting away with killing unarmed black people – children, women, and men – FOR CENTURIES!!! Bombings, lynchings, fires, riots, drownings, shootings, dragging, etc, etc, etc!!!
Several posters here have deep feelings of persecution and victimization. I share those feelings in the reciprocal, yet I have an “issue with black on white attacks? Hypocrisy lives here.
My comment asked “what does it mean when we see the world as mirror images? Does it mean we’re even-steven on these things because we the opposite view and have anecdotes and news reports to back these up? Does it mean we’re more polarized than ever and are moving closer to open conflict? I don’t know. I think we should segregate for a while to cool off, see how we can develop apart from each other but I wonder if the American black community is large enough to see to its own needs yet. Many posters here have left the United States for many of the same reasons – I hope you find peace and prosperity.
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Speaking now to King of Trouble – as for fear of violence, I’m aware of it, not enslaved by it. I don’t depend on the Police, but I’m not against calling 911. I’m prepared to defend my home and family, but I’m not looking to shoot anyone. I have known fear, but not the kind you’ve described. I’ve been in the Army, I served during Desert Storm didn’t see combat but was trained and ready.
Now speaking to all – I call much of black on white violence “kleenex killing” that is a black perp will kill a white victim without regard, like throwing away a used kleenex. Many of these happen following a rape, or a robbery, or a mugging where the haul wasn’t enough, or anytime a black guy finds himself in a position of power over someone else. The most shocking recently was the guy who beat an old woman working as a cashier, robbed the store, then set the woman on fire. I have a feeling that those killings aren’t limited to black on white, but black on black too. There’s a big chunk of a generation or two of black monsters that have no conscience – I posted about them earlier.
White on black killing appears to me to be knee jerk fear response. This case in point – Homeowner is awakened in the middle of the night – he arms himself and sees a stranger on the porch. Even if he realized it was a young women who didn’t mean to harm him – he was still distressed enough to lose muzzle discipline and touch the trigger when the weapon wasn’t pointed in a safe direction – that’s is how you shoot someone in the face on accident. This was seen earlier this year with the young chemistry student Jonathan Ferrell – he wasn’t killed for fun or to prove a point – he was killed by a policeman answering a call from a frightened woman. Trayvon was killed by a man he was assaulting – fear of black, gets black shot.
Dead is dead, but I can’t help but notice the dichotomy here. Blacks kill whites because they feel like it and they can and it terrifies the whites. Whites kill blacks because they’re terrified of them. It mostly turns out that the blacks killed by whites are decent people caught in strange or unusual circumstances. Whites killed by blacks are mostly decent people who had the misfortune to cross paths with a less than decent black. The trouble for me and many other whites is that it is difficult to know who you’re dealing with. That is unfortunate, but there it is.
So – is there anything the black community can do (should they do?) to be less feared? Whose responsibility is it to reduce the fear of blacks by white America?
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@ Riverside_Rob
Pure sociopathic logic — reversing the truth and making whites the victims of blacks
I hope all the black people understand the depth of this mental and moral illness that you’re exhibiting. You think if you repeat a LIE often enough it becomes the TRUTH
so I suggest to all — don’t get CAUGHT UP IN THE LIES.
This is a CLASSIC MOVE by white people called “FALSE WHITE INNOCENCE” and kinda goes like this:
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“Aw, golly, gee, uh, whites are just like scared of blacks even when we wear a policeman’s uniform and carry a gun and even if there’s a bunch of us guys with guns, we have to shoot unarmed black people 50 times cause ah, golly, gee, gosh, these blacks are sooooo scary even when they little kids we gotta shoot them down cause us poor white people, well, we don’t know what to do but kill ’em, cause we’re such peaceful people, we never attack anyone and it’s not true we have a history of killing blacks for no reason cause it’s never for no reason, it’s always the nig–uh, blacks fault when we kill em cause we only kill when we have to, and golly, gee, gosh! It is funny that we’re not so scared of blacks to stop having sex with them and creeping around them trying to have sex with them and act like white trolls stalking black dating websites trying to hook up with you scary blacks, and yeah, that is funny that we’re not too scared to do that. Now, what are you black folks gonna do to make us innocent whites to stop killing you black boogy men, women, and kids? I mean, like gosh, you can’t expect us to do it on our own, can you? Huh? Huh?”
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Reading his post , I realized, why be irritated or puzzled by this gross interpretation of reality?
It’s like listening to someone tell you that grass is blue and the sky is green
So, the most appropriate thing to do when reading posts like Riverside_Rob’s is to simply…
DISMISS IT.
So, this post is mostly for the victims of white supremacy, not for you, Riverside_Rob.
to encourage all to NOT EVEN CONSIDER YOUR CON GAME
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@Riverside_Rob
That belief is a white viewpoint.
I am sure that most non-whites who met violence with whites did not do it under the circumstances you describe. Some, perhaps, but not most.
Also, why is there such a pathological fear of blacks? Enough to justify killing them out of fear? I really don’t think that there was any “strange or unusual circumstance” that justified the killing of Jonathan Ferrell or Renisha McBride. It is like viewing it as normal to kill someone for carrying phantom negro weapons.
The answer is that this pathological fear has been manipulated by the media and politics to create it. Or maybe we should say those people were killed by “white pathologies”?
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I agree, White American fear of Blacks, and of the rest of mankind for that matter, is way off the charts. Cases like McBride and Ferrell make it clear that it is not anything Blacks are doing wrong. It is coming from inside Whites, from their hang-ups, their sociopathic thinking.
Their huge military edge over their historical enemies has shaped their culture and warped their judgement. They settle conflicts through violence – because they can. But then that breeds fear of payback, a dehumanized view of others and morally broken thinking – as ably shown by the whitewashed commenters on this blog.
I like the idea that their films about aliens from outer space are pretty much about their racist fears.
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“…I like the idea that their films about aliens from outer space are pretty much about their racist fears…”
There is classic example of this in the last Star Trek series – “Enterprise”. In the last season (4) there is an episode called “Demons” which particularly illustrates this point. The humans form a renegade group – composed of all nationalities; they appear to have eliminated racism(?) – with the sole purpose of removing the “Aliens” from their planet. lol!!!
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Is there any other country which derives so much of their entertainment on defeating alien space invaders? India and China both are active in the space program, but neither are fixated on such a theme.
If you look at them, you will soon realize that alien space invaders are thinly veiled manifestations of the Yellow Peril theme that has captured their imagination since the 19th century. It is similar to how movies like Avatar are a thinly veiled reenactment of the Native American theme. It is how non-Americans recognize the themes as being so quintessentially American.
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Riverside_Rob
Well yeah, I tried to show that my feelings about being targeted by blacks are the moral equivalent of other posters feelings about being targeted by whites.
Let me stop you right there…
It is not even close to a moral equivalent. You bringing up black-on-white crime only fosters justifications for fearing black people, young blacks in some cases. It’s nothing new, nor is it done out of concern. This whole nation thrives off of its insane fear of black people for the benefit of white supremacy and – to an extent – white preservation.
In your case, I see it as a way of bringing up white victimization by blacks while we mourn the loss of a black female at the hands of a white person. That’s not cool. This is not the place to coddle to the feelings of whites or yourself. I’m just being honest here.
The testimony itself if a moral and logical fallacy. Black-on-white crime is nowhere near as devastating as white racism against black people since day one. Sure, it’s traumatic getting robbed or jumped by blacks once or a few times in one’s lifetime, but try imagine living in a world where those thugs are seen as representatives of the whole race and where action is taken against the entire community for what a few punks did.
Try imaging a world where criminality is seen as a major part of what black culture in which all black people seen is assumed to have a criminal intent.
Try to image a world where black people are scapegoated day in and day out for the problems this country faces while whites are constantly – CONSTANTLY seen as the victim.
I could go on, but as bad as black-on-white crimes are in general, it doesn’t compare to white racism against blacks which has created more damage than this nation wants to realize.
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And one more thing Riverside_Rob
I would love to live in a world where people won’t be afraid of me if they saw me walking down the street. I’m a tall, thick black male, but I also don’t have a criminal record and is nice and polite as I can be to everyone. Yet, I know a lot of people won’t know that. If they take one look at me, they will see a thug, a criminal, a n**ger even when I have no intentions of robbing or raping anyone. You see, they see image of black males as thugs and gangsters, and some may have been victims of crimes by black folks, but to place all 35 million of us in the same category is beyond ludicrous. But that’s how it is.
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@Legion,
I love sci-fi too, esp. the dystopian themes like Soylent Green. I don’t think Star Wars is so much part of the alien space invaders theme, but ones like Independence Day and War of the Worlds. I see the parallel between dehumanizing aliens and dehumanizing g**ks so that they can be killed without blinking an eye.
– they are attacking “our way of life” and want to kill us
– they are not human
– America saves the world for democracy and freedom
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@Legion,
We were talking about Alien space invaders, not all sci-fi genre.
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Da Jokah said:
The FBI surveys the population asking people whether they’ve been a victim of a crime along with details. There’s pretty good agreement between the surveys and police reports.
On this very blog we see an evidence that the correlation between who is being asked and what is being reported or, in this case, what was attempted to be reported, is not representative of what is really going on.
I know this is an example from one individual but I suspect that many people are victims of abh/gbh and dont report it OR are dissuaded from reporting for a variety of reasons including disinterest/apathy from the authorities. I myself had an unecessary punch up with a bloke who took exception to something and ended up getting headbutted – in front of my kid. I dealt with him!!! Maybe I should have reported him but I didnt.
Brothawolf:
Thanks for the compliment – I dont post often as I know I lack the slick style of many of the commenters, would be ‘trolls’ included 😉
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I just want to qualify my comment to Riverside Rob here
Omnipresent saidI am sceptical that a black person randomly came up to you and started on you for nothing – probably like most young lads with all the fights you were in that you won, you got bolder and cockier – I bet fighting with a black man and, most importantly winning, would have been the ultimate victory for you as you seem to feel so scared and threatened by them.
Riverside Rob said earlier (not in response to my comment above):
This is what I mean Jefe, feral black young men and boys, on the warpath with civilization. It’s not my imagination, it’s a growing phenomenon and it’s begging to include feral black females too.
RR’s response to crime perpetrated by black people probably shows his attitude to black people when they are in the same vicinity. The belief is that they are either ‘potential’ or ‘would be’ criminals and, in finding articles about their wrongdoings, this confirms the beliefs and gives you justification for you being on your ‘uppers’ when in the presence of black people.
I thought this was interesting too:
When I was younger, I got into a fair number of scrapes, mostly over girls or bragging and booze, with other white guys. The two times I was attacked for no damn reason (other than entertainment) involved blacks taking a sucker punch and following up with kicks in the face in one instance, the other I followed up by stabbing the sob twice, ending the fight post haste.
Fights and punch ups with fellow whites were scrapes yet this escalates when fighting with what appears to be an ‘unarmed’ black person to GBH!!!!! If you had your blade when you were fighting with your fellow whites the knife probably didnt get drawn but, having been defeated once by a black person, you take no chances – is that it? I bet you didnt win the fights with all your white peers but did you go back armed? Unlikely. I guess you will try to say that the fights with whites were ‘trivial’ in comparison but, man to man, when you are involved in a fisticuffs, this aint ever the case. its fight to win and a demonstration of strength, masculinity and prowess.
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I wonder why they are killing so many young, Black adults off like this? What is their motive?
Racism or fear. That is what I wonder.
I am a young Black adult and hearing about Jonathan Ferrell and Renisha Boyd’s stories make me so upset.
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@ Adeen
Just my opinion, but white people are NOT afraid of black people. It’s just NOT logical. They have the POWER, the POLICE, the GUNS, the MONEY, the JOBS, the POLITICIANS, the FOOD, the WATER, City Hall, the State House, and the White House
If white people were afraid WHY are so many of them EAGERLY pursuing sex with black people? If I was afraid of someone–like say, a serial killer–the last thing I would be interested in is having sex with him–or her.
I think their (phony) fear has to do with a fear of RETRIBUTION for their crimes against non-white, and, especially by black people–and THAT is why they keep a big white foot on our black necks–
because IF we ever got up off our knees there might be a day of reckoning. Sexualizing blacks, other than being a sometimes, sick (and racist) sexual FETISH, also expresses a NEED to stay close to their enemies:
Like that old saying: “Keep your friend close, and your enemies closer.”
But no one expresses this “white fear” better than a white person:
“A third fear involves a slightly different scenario — a world in which non-white people might someday gain the kind of power over whites that whites have long monopolized…
And then what? Many whites fear that the result won’t be a system that is more just, but a system in which white people become the minority and could be treated as whites have long treated non-whites.
This is perhaps the deepest fear that lives in the heart of whiteness. It is not really a fear of non-white people. It’s a fear of the depravity that lives in our own hearts: Are non-white people capable of doing to us the barbaric things
we have done to them?”
Robert Jensen, “The Fears of White People”(white professor, University of Texas)
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If Abagond doesn’t mind, I’d like to post my response to a much-asked question — and that is — why so much violence against blacks is tolerated and seldom punished? (This excerpt is from my book, “Trojan Horse: Death of a Dark Nation).
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Why Blacks Are The Biggest Targets Of Domestic Terrorism
Reason #1: The African man and woman — the first man and woman on
earth — possess the MOST MELANIN, which makes them, genetically and
biologically speaking, the most powerful people on the planet — and the
greatest genetic threat to white survival.
Reason #2: When one group oppresses another group, the oppressed group
correctly views their oppressors as their enemy. The reverse is ALSO
true. The oppressors know it is foolish (and illogical) to trust the same people
they are oppressing (mistreating).
A white supremacist system logically assumes that all non-whites are
“enemies of the state” and potential threats to the white status quo, which is
why non-whites are ALWAYS assumed to be secretly plotting against whites.
The police and court systems are used to intimidate and terrorize the
oppressed to keep them from rebelling against an unfair (racist) system.
This explains why law enforcement is allowed to abuse and murder blacks at will. It also explains why blacks and non-whites (in general) are not perceived
by the white collective as “patriotic,” and in some cases, NOT citizens at all.
The oppressor class knows it is ILLOGICAL (and insane!) for the oppressed
“minorities” to be loyal to the same system that is oppressing them. Sadly, some blacks do not understand how illogical (and self-disrespecting) their “loyalty” is.
Reason #3: The abuse/murder of blacks by the police provides visible “proof”
to the white collective that whites are more privileged than (superior to) blacks, thus ensuring the loyalty of whites to a system that is also exploiting them, but still allows even poor whites to feel superior to blacks.
This divide-and-conquer strategy by the white elites allows the continued economic and political exploitation of BOTH whites and non-whites.
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Good night, all!
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Trojan Pam
Excellent comment.
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@Trojan Pam
I’ve always suspected that “power” also plays into the equation. I remember a year ago, reading somewhere that by 2040–though I think it will be sooner that white people will become the minority in the U.S.It’s just my opinion, but I feel that won’t change the power dynamics. I mean, let’s take South Africa as an example.
With that said about power, I’m wondering if that’s why we’re seeing a resurgence of such movies i.e. ‘Olympus Has Fallen’ and ‘White House Down’, slave movies, and others with black people in subservient roles–then there’s films like ‘Elysium’ where the wealthy leave behind a mostly poor and non-white population down in heavily polluted earth to live paradise in space. I might be wrong but these movies seem more prominent ever since 9/11. One of my acquaintances, a white woman, kept insisting that she feared that the Chinese will come over and take over the U.S.. I feel that many people underestimate the power of the media and how Hollywood plays a role in the continuance of propaganda and how it is also a form of brainwashing! One of my friends who is half- Filipina has said that she has noticed a rise in anti-Asian sentiment…
The scary thing is since Obama was first elected, my father (who grew up during the Civil Rights era) predicted that the anger will be taken out on black citizens—and we see that unfolding. This isn’t also a U.S. phenomena either–as there is also a rise with hate groups in Europe. Interesting how whenever the economy goes bad, people always make the “other” as scapegoats.
I completely agree 100% with the elite using divide and conquer methods to keep withes and non-whites at each others throats. Many people still don’t see or refuse to see how they’re getting played.
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@Muse
The Yellow Peril stereotype has been a recurrent theme in US policy and collective consciousness. It caused the Chinese Exclusion Act and the numerous massacres committed with impunity (1870s-1940s). It justified the WWII Japanese American Internment which technically has never been made illegal. It is also part of the reason why Asians are kept out of the country’s elite universities and corporations and higher echelons of government and part of the reason why US has been at war all this time.
The fear is kept alive and fueled by Alien invasion stories. It takes little imagination to associate a takeover with any of those stories.
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Trojan pam – you’re dizzy. what the heck are you rambling about?
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Brothawolf
You see, they see image of black males as thugs and gangsters,
and who is responsible for that image? black culture loves the thug life, the sagging pants, the gold tooth, the glock held sideways. Your own fellows have created this identity – you own it.
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Pam and brothawolf – if you say these things aren’t happening, your either an ostrich (head in the sand) or a liar. either way, your denials are wearing thin.
Date
Crime
Victim
2013-11-07 MURDER, THROAT SLIT Evelyn Norell, 93
2013-11-07 KIDNAPPING, BURGLARY Thomas M. Nedich, 63
2013-11-06 HOMICIDE BY BEATING Layla Malone, 4
2013-11-04 SET AFIRE WHILE SLEEPING Luke Fleischman, 18
2013-10-30 HOME INVASION, BEATING DEATH Delor Cabral, 78
2013-10-30 HOME INVASION, STABBING Rachel Poole, 31
2013-10-29 MURDER; HOME INVASION Raymond Vasholz, 83
2013-10-28 PEPPER SPRAY ASSAULT Asst store manager
2013-10-25 HOMICIDE Amanda Stratford, 28
2013-10-24 HOMICIDE Jane Juergens, 55
2013-10-23 HOMICIDE Colleen Ritzer, 24
2013-10-18 BEATEN TO DEATH, ROBBED Lawrence E. ‘Shine’ Thornton, 87
2013-10-17 SHOT DEAD Charles Sperry, 80
2013-10-16 ROBBED AT GUNPOINT Mary Hall, 83
2013-10-15 ASSAULTED ON SCHOOL VAN Dylan Fonner, 17
2013-10-14 MOB BEAT DOWN Ronald Russo, 30, and wife
2013-10-14 SHOOTING Martha Childress, 18
2013-10-14 SHOOTING DEATH James “Jimmy” Johnson, 56
2013-10-14 SHOOTING DEATH Stephanie Terlisner, 28, unborn baby
2013-10-13 ROBBERY, ATTEMPTED MURDER Jon Dunham
2013-10-12 SHOOTING DEATH Kim Kilgore, 21
2013-10-11 BEAT DOWN, ROBBERY Kathleen Jacobs
2013-10-11 HOME INVASION, STABBING, HOMICIDE Sandra Price, 67
2013-10-10 SHOOTING DEATH, ROBBERY J.P. Shelley, 42
2013-10-10 HOMICIDE Justin Ferrari
2013-10-10 KIDNAPPING, RAPE, MURDER Jennifer Kocsis, 37
2013-10-10 BEATING Ron Gandy, 48
2013-10-10 ATM ROBBERY, PISTOL WHIPPED Unnamed man, 65
2013-10-10 BEATING DEATH Gregory Gross, 52
2013-10-10 MOB ATTACK; THEFT Unnamed woman
2013-10-09 CAR THEFT AT GUNPOINT Brad Edmonds
2013-10-08 KIDNAPPING, MURDER William Alexander Apps, 25
2013-10-07 EXECUTION Jourdan Bobbish, 17
2013-10-07 EXECUTION Jake Kudla, 18
2013-10-05 MOB ATTACK, STABBING HOMICDE Unnamed male soldier, 20
2013-10-03 ASSAULT Brendan O’Toole, 26
2013-10-02 BEAT DOWN, ROBBERY Unnamed man, 75
2013-10-01 STABBING 5 victims include 2-yr-old
2013-09-30 MURDER: SHOT & BURNED IN SUV Richard Michael “Mike” Carter
2013-09-29 BLACK BIKER MOB ATTACK Alexian Lien
2013-09-28 ASSAULT Woman walking baby stroller
2013-09-27 MOB ATTACK Unnamed, 64
2013-09-27 ASSAULT Matt Hogue
2013-09-27 FAMILY HOME ATTACKED Unnamed toddler shot
2013-09-25 KNOCK-OUT-GAME MURDER James Gifford, 70
2013-09-24 ASSAULT Safeway manager
2013-09-23 VIOLENT SEX OFFENSE unnamed girl, 17
(presumed white)
2013-09-21 ASSAULT WITH BRICK Andrew Billington, 37
2013-09-21 MOB BEATING DEATH Ralph Eric Santiago, 46
2013-09-20 SHOT TO DEATH Officer Rod Bradway, 41
2013-09-17 HOME INVASION, ABDUCTION Ayvani Hope Perez, 13
2013-09-16 HOMICIDE, ROBBERY Spc. Taylor Hotzoglou, 22
2013-09-16 HOMICIDE (SHOOTING) Gabriel Martinez, 13
2013-09-14 ASSAULT News anchor Brian Carey
2013-09-10 KNOCK-OUT GAME MURDER Ralph Erick Santiago, 46
2013-09-10 MOB ATTACK Michael Stinnett, 27
2013-09-09 FACE SMASHED ON BUS Name withheld
2013-09-07 ASSAULT Female store clerk
2013-09-05 MACE ATTACK, BEATING, ROBBERY Unnamed man, 82
2013-09-04 ROBBERY, MURDER Lawrence Howse, 54
2013-09-04 KNOCK-OUT, MURDER Jeffrey Babbitt, 62
2013-09-03 MURDER, BURNED ALIVE IN TRUNK Yoko Cullen, 85
2013-09-02 MOB ATTACK, ROBBERY NYPC officer
2013-08-28 MOB ATTACK Ginger Slepski
2013-08-27 RAPE Amelia Rudolf, 97
2013-08-26 BURGLARY, MURDER Fannie Gumbinger, 99
2013-08-26 ASSAULT Andy Sweeney
2013-08-26 ASSAULT tiny toddler
2013-08-25 MURDER BY MOB Richard Daughenbaugh, 40
2013-08-24 MOB BEATING unnamed couple
2013-08-22 ASSAULT, ROBBERY 4 elderly women, 70, 63, 65, 93
2013-08-22 ASSAULT unnamed victim
2013-08-22 MURDER BY MOB Delbert Belton, 88
2013-08-22 KIDNAPPING unnamed young woman
2013-08-22 HAMMER ATTACK unnamed hot-dog vendor
2013-08-21 SHOT DEAD Miguel Pilotos, 71
2013-08-21 MOB ATTACK unknown victim
2013-08-20 MURDER Christopher Lane
2013-08-16 ROBBERY/MURDER Habib Hajimirzaei
2013-08-15 GUN CRIME unnamed victim
2013-08-15 MOB ATTACK unnamed man
2013-08-12 GUN SHOT WOUND Deloy Dupuis, 64
2013-08-12 RANDOM STABBING Laralynn Stock Caldwell, 20, 3 others
2013-08-12 MURDER David Santucci
2013-08-12 MOB ATTACK John Garland Redick (77)
2013-08-10 MOB ATTACK Ray Widstrand
2013-08-06 MURDER Alyssa Oakes
2013-08-06 BEATING/ROBBERY Gideon Hackett
2013-08-05 BEATING Unnamed
2013-08-05 TORTURE, MURDER Gary Nagy
2013-08-04 CARJACKING 2 women, 1 girl
2013-08-01 STABBING Natasha Martinez
2013-07-31 ASSAULT/ROBBERY Carre Ramirez
2013-08-04 CARJACKING 2 women, 1 girl
2013-08-01 STABBING Natasha Martinez
2013-07-31 ASSAULT/ROBBERY VCarre Ramirez
2013-07-31 PURSE SNATCHED unnamed 90 year old
2013-07-31 MOB ATTACK unnamed man
2013-07-30 MOB ATTACK T.C. Maslin
22013-07-29 SCHOOL BUS ATTACK 13-yr-old boy
2013-07-29 ASSAULT cab driver
2013-07-29 ASSAULT young mother
2013-07-28 MOB ATTACK unnamed man
2013-07-28 MOB ATTACK 4 victims
2013-07-27 MOB ATTACK unnamed victim
2013-07-25 SHOOTING elderly trucker
2013-07-22 2 MOB ATTACKS Austin Grills (15)
2013-07-19 HOMICIDE Stacey Moulton
2013-07-19 HOMICIDE Terri Moulton
2013-07-19 ASSAULT Zack Finkelstein
2013-07-19 RAPE 5-yr-old girl
2013-07-15 ASSAULT Georgia [withheld]
2013-07-14 MOB ATTACK Christopher [withheld]
2013-07-14 MURDER, ROBBERY Matthew Bohannon
2013-07-14 MURDER, ROBBERY Andrew Bohannon
2013-07-14 MURDER Joseph Orlando
2013-07-14 ABDUCTION/MURDER Brenna Machus
2013-07-12 MURDER Lina Lim
2013-07-12 MURDER Khin Min
2013-07-12 MURDER Pat Mahaney
2013-07-10 SHOT Father, children
2013-07-10 ASSAULT/THEFT 3 victims
2013-07-06 ASSAULT/THEFT Unnamed mom & child
2013-07-04 ASSAULT, THEFT Joe Stapf
2013-07-02 MURDER Molly Conley
2013-07-02 MURDER Kelly L. Hunnewell
2013-07-02 KNIFE ASSAULT 2-Yr-Old
2013-07-01 MURDER Joshua Chellew
2013-07-01 ASSAULT Cassandra Struve
2013-06-30 MOB ATTACK young woman
2013-06-27 ASSAULT Hayley Aldridge
2013-06-26 HOMICIDE Amy Gibbins
2013-06-26 HOMICIDE Amy Gibbins’ 5-yr-old son
2013-06-26 MOB ATTACK Unnamed Family
2013-06-26 MOB ATTACK unnamed boy
2013-06-21 SHOOTING RAMPAGE 4 victims near Walmart
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brothawolf and Pam – any answer to the question, why do blacks attack old white people?
You can run on all day about my white ancestors oppressing black people. I contend that some of your black peers are behaving like animals today.
http://dailykenn.blogspot.com/2012/07/why-blacks-attack-old-white-people.html
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Riverside_Rob
and who is responsible for that image? black culture loves the thug life, the sagging pants, the gold tooth, the glock held sideways. Your own fellows have created this identity – you own it.
Oh no, sir. We didn’t start it, and we don’t down it. And if you don’t know what black culture is. You’ve taken what it is presumably by what you see on TV and in movies, maybe in the front pages of your local newspaper.
If you want to talk about gangster culture, why not talk about why there’s a series coming based on the lives of Bonnie and Clyde? or how channels like Lifetime loves to make movies based on white-on-white crimes that actually happened for entertainment? And let’s not forget heavy metal bands and music that worship Satanism and white supremacy. But I guess they are not as bad as 50 Cent or Three 6 Mafia, eh?
Here’s an idea, Rob, why not try to talk to black people instead of at them. Why not see them as people instead of soulless criminals? Why not see them as individuals instead of one culture of thugs and gangsters? How hard is it to do just that?
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@Riverside_Rob
Do you seriously believe that people are fully responsible for the stereotyped images that OTHERS make, politicians promote and the media enforces?
Are all blacks responsible for the welfare queen stereotype image? Are all Asian-Americans responsible for being stereotyped in image as perpetual foreigners or even model minorities? For that matter, are all whites responsible for the stereotyped images of confederate flag toting KKK redn3cks?
I remember you have a strong tendency to believe stereotypes. Stereotypes are nothing more than beliefs about an image. They can either be reinforced through confirmation bias or dispelled. But they are never the truth.
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Riverside_Rob
You need to scroll up and read a comment where I said that I KNOW black-on-white crime happens. I even said that I was robbed by a black man once. So, where on Earth did you get that I said that it doesn’t happen??
And don’t think that only black people have individuals that attack the elderly. I’ve read stories where white people have murdered their own parents and grandparents. So, crime against old folks is not limited to just us.
You really need to get help. It’s crystal clear you’re fixated with black-on-white crime to not give a crap about the death of Renisha or other black people.
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Riverside_Rob
Like jefe said, we didn’t create these images and then stigmatized them with what it means to be black. White America and its racism did, because it doesn’t want to see us as human beings. and it’s just like what you’re doing. You don’t see us as humans but two-dimensional stereotypes that you seem to have gotten from television.
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@ Riverside Rob
People of colour do not control their representation in the media:
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R_Rob, where’s the link to your list
you can bring in lists all day and play tit-for-tat
you white racists are busy indeed… if you try to google “white violence against black people” a whole BUNCH of websites pop up that discuss black-on-white crime… talk about trying to control the narrative and media spin..
I bet you white racist give thank God everyday for the Internet — the fastest way to spread your lies and hate.
“Despite the election of our nation’s first African-American president, African Americans remain by far the most frequent victims of hate crimes. Of the 7,624 hate crime incidents reported nationwide in 2007, the most recent year for which data is available, 34 percent (2,659) were perpetrated against African Americans, a number and percentage of incidents that has changed little over the past 10 years.
According to the FBI’s HCSA report, more than twice as many hate crimes were reported against African Americans as against any other group”
http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/african-americans.html
The State of Hate: Exploiting the Internet to Promote Hatred
“Extremists have taken advantage of the open forums and venues on the Internet, as well as new technologies, to promote their bigoted ideology.
Whereas hate mongers once had to stand on street corners and hand out mimeographed leaflets to passersby, the Internet has allowed extremists to access a potential audience of millions — including impressionable youth. It has also facilitated communication among like-minded bigots across borders and oceans, anonymously and cheaply enhancing their ability to promote and recruit for their cause.”
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Linda:
you white racists are busy indeed… if you try to google “white violence against black people” a whole BUNCH of websites pop up that discuss black-on-white crime… talk about trying to control the narrative and media spin..
Not sure whether RR is just guillible or willfully ignorant but I lean towards the latter because there is a deliberation to his actions which he gave an example of when he talked about the 2 ‘fights’ he had with black men. I think these examples in themselves give an indication that RR is not looking for ‘fairness’ in examining any aspect of life.
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Omnipresent, Linda
At this point, it’s obvious that he’s doing this to hide his guilt. Like Da Jokah, they can’t stand to know that there are actually white people who commit crimes against blacks. I think they get some sort of sick satisfaction hearing about black-on-crime, and that feeling helps relieve their collective shame.
There are criminals in every group and they target whoever they want. Sometimes they target people in other groups, but when it comes to this society, interracial crime is always seen as a good reason why to hate and fear the “other” even if the crime is a hoax. There is a deep psychological and moral deformity with the way people color-code crime as being a problem only the other has, but they don’t like mentioning that the problem resides in their communities, and by problem I mean criminality – white criminality. Even by me putting a color on the word speaks volumes about how crime is judged by the content of skin. For instance, black crime are two words that have been together for so long, it’s used more times than we care to realize. But hearing the words ‘white crime’ is rare, and ‘white collar crime’ doesn’t count.
I told Rob how it was wrong if him to site black-on-white crime in a forum discussing the tragedy of a young woman’s life being taken. And it seems he doesn’t understand why I consider it rude and deplorable online behavior. To me it’s messed up enough to be reminded that my people are a race of criminals, but to do it when we mourn another black life lost is just plain sick. Real talk.
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brothawolf and Pam – any answer to the question, why do blacks attack old white people?
Sure, if you can tell us why white men love molesting animals.
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Brothawolf:
There are criminals in every group and they target whoever they want. Sometimes they target people in other groups, but when it comes to this society, interracial crime is always seen as a good reason why to hate and fear the “other” even if the crime is a hoax.
By knifing the black man he had a fight with, RR is now part of the statistics he devours with relish but this time on the reverse – a perpetrator of white on black crime. I doubt he has given it a second thought.
I told Rob how it was wrong if him to site black-on-white crime in a forum discussing the tragedy of a young woman’s life being taken. And it seems he doesn’t understand why I consider it rude and deplorable online behavior.
You are right – it is out of order. I can see by the way he responded to Jefe that the criminal act itself doesnt matter, the only interest he has is what colour the ‘villain’ is and even then when it is a white person who has committed the crime, this is dismissed because it doesnt suit his agenda.
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Omnipresent: He is a soulless vampire. He is just on this blog for kicks. He is not here to learn or grow. He and his ilk are part of the cancer on society, called racism. He is part of the malignancy.
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mary burrell:
He is just on this blog for kicks
Also I suspect for fuel and amunition – he has been treated well considering
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@omnipresent: Yes, he has and he doesn’t deserve it. I think his being treated well has been quite generous.
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SHUT UP RR
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THAT JUST BE READING PA AND THIS AINT PARKING TICKETS
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ITS CALLED ALCOHOL
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[…] Renisha McBride (2013) – killed by a 54-year-old white man, whose name the police has not made public. No charges yet. […]
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@TrojanPam,
I want to say that that is only happening in areas affected by White Supremacy. Before I attended college around Whites, I never felt an anti-black women vibe. I personally feel that white supremacy has removed that in Black men – that ability to show a protective or loving attitude towards Black women. I feel black men are taught that it makes whites uncomfortable to be so.
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@ jeje
who said, “Is there any other country which derives so much of their entertainment on defeating alien space invaders? India and China both are active in the space program, but neither are fixated on such a them.”
That’s a great observation. Never thought about that before regarding alien movies.
I have seen a similar pattern when it comes to the super violent, slasher, let’s rape and kill a pretty young white female or chop up a bunch of teenagers or a white family just for the FUN of killing movies seem to be the domain of european/white filmmakers.
Also, the epidemic of vampire films and how vampires (a form of cannibalism) are romanticized in western culture, you won’t see any parallels in non-white movie making.
There seems to be a link between violence, sex, and pleasure in the white psyche collectively, and if you start paying attention especially on an historic level, you can’t help but see it.
That may explain why the (white) tendency to obsess sexually over black genitalia goes hand in hand with the tendency to slaughter blacks.
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@ Omnipresent
The one thing I’ve learned about white people is white people are NOT ignorant about racism/white supremacy. They just use different tactics to fool their (black/non-white) victims into thinking they are.
One tactic is false white innocence: “I don’t understand why you are calling me a racist or why you say that’s racist.”
to denial: “I am not a racist.”
to projection of their own crimes: “Well, what about all the violent blacks who do xyz to white people?”
to pure sociopathy: “I don’t care what you blacks say, that never happened, slavery was a good thing for blacks, and it’s just not true that racism exists, no matter how much evidence you lying blacks present.”
I try to follow the LOGIC. There is no way that 9% of the world’s population could control the other 91% without the MAJORITY of that 9% understanding how to maintain the system of white privilege and power.
And one other clue — in my opinion — is whenever white people are deprived of white privilege or having a superior position over all black and non-white people, they scream from the rooftops–because they know whites are supposed to be on top at all times.
I remember an incident where this young white male no more than twenty-two was asked to lift some heavy boxes and he told the white person, “You ain’t working me like a N-word.”
because he assumed (I think) that the black male he worked with should have done the heavy lifting.
White people as young as 16 know what being white means and they know what it means when you are NOT white, believe me.
I think we (black people) are doing ourselves a HUGE disservice by telling ourselves that whites are ignorant. Ignorance means you do not know about something.
It is US (black people) who are ignorant about racism/white supremacy,
Otherwise, we wouldn’t be so confused and so devastated by it.
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@ Brothawolf
Thanks
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@ muse
I agree, having a larger population does not translate into more power. Like you said, South Africa is a great example. Look at the U.S. Over 300 million people controlled by a few hundred white elites.
I’d add another movie to your list. The movie, 2012, where the world comes to an end and the majority of the people in the “arks” are rich whites. And where are the arks headed?
To the continent of AFRICA
All while Africa is under attack and millions of Africa are being wiped out by genocide orchestrated by european nations (including the U.S. — UNDER the Obama administration)
I also agree that anti-Asian sentiment is growing, but the reality is it NEVER went away. Anti-non-white sentiment is a staple of a white supremacy system. The hardest job I will ever have is convincing black and non-white people that such a system exists
I also believed that Obama’s election was devised by the most powerful whites to create a BLACK SCAPEGOAT for all the ills of american and world society AND that black people would be targeted because they can get to us when they can’t get to Obama.
We know from history that economic pain causes a rise in racism among the white collective. History bears this out, but of course, with so many white-washed TV shows and movies that give the illusion that racism is a thing of the past, it is very difficult for many blacks and non-whites to believe that history might repeat itself
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“Omnipresent @Linda:
Not sure whether RR is just guillible or willfully ignorant but I lean towards the latter because there is a deliberation to his actions which he gave an example of when he talked about the 2 ‘fights’ he had with black men. I think these examples in themselves give an indication that RR is not looking for ‘fairness’ in examining any aspect of life.”
Linda says,
R_Rob is not gullible nor is he ignorant… he knows EXACTLY what he is saying and why —
he is achieving his goal every time he types and comments — black people are not his target– he wants to use your responses to show and say to the average white person: “see, I told you they (black people) hate us”
he is a professional Racist… they use the code word: “race realist” online and his only goal is to go on blogs or controversial topics and spread hate…Trayvon Martin being portrayed as a “thug” was not accidently…
These racist PURPOSELY repeated their message long enough for most ordinary white people to start believing it…. Trayvon Martin was one of their most successful onlinePropaganda War’s that they won.
I wasn’t kidding with the article about the Neo-Nazi and other white Hate groups using the Internet to spread their Hate — they are targeting middle-class white Americans, (white North Americans period) and Europeans by continuously spreading fear that black and brown people are taking over or taking something away from them .
For the last 15 years, the Europeans on the Continent have gotten more vocal about their immigration “problems” with Arabs and Africans… the National Fronts in various European countries are even more Active than ever before.
These “race realist” groups are strategically using the Internet to spread their message against black people… it’s not by accident or ignorance… to these loons, they honestly believe that the “white race” is in danger…
I might make fun of them from time to time, but I recognize that they are a serious threat because they have infiltrated political groups, corporations, and many other facets of our lives.
it doesn’t take much “whispering” in their ears by white race realists to get ordinary white people to see things their way —- and scare them to death by saying “black people are criminals or “black and brown people are taking over”
that’s why if black Americans and black and brown people around the world don’t get our sh’t together and stop fighting and hurting each other — we shouldn’t be surprised about the negative outcomes
People need to wake up and realize what is happening
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@ Linda
I agree, with your statement that, “R_Rob is not gullible nor is he ignorant… he knows EXACTLY what he is saying and why —”
He will also never supply the links and if he ever does, they will probably come from a site that mirrors his twisted beliefs (and they won’t have any reliable sources either — just like Da Joker after all that talk, only gave ONE LINK to a site in the UK that didn’t even MENTION race. How absurd is that?
I agree, a lot of the race-mongering and racist-speak on this blog and others is NOT for the benefit of black people. They really don’t care what we think. We have not shown ourselves (as yet) of being a force to be reckoned with as we are too busy fighting with each other and seeking white validation.
A lot of the racism we see now like cartoons about President Obama, cracks about slavery being a good thing for blacks, making fun of black people, and making up false news reports about black people victimizing white people
is really a RALLYING CRY to whites — worldwide– that it is time to go back to the “old ways” of doing things — aka — it is time to do “something” about the black/non-white “problem” —
to set the stage for genocide and the mass incarceration and victimization of black and non-white people, here and in Europe. As you said, there is a rapidly rising wave of violence against Asians, Africans and non-white immigrants in Europe and Russia.
I know a black male who travels constantly throughout Europe and Russia and he emails me regularly about the degradation and killing of black and non-white people abroad. He also said that in some areas, blacks and non-whites have to travel in groups because it is too dangerous to be alone.
White supremacy is dying on the ropes. It may not look like that–thanks to TV and movies that show white is omnipotent and supreme– but there is a real threat to this system, and that is the WEARINESS of non-white people to hundreds of years of white supremacy global terrorism.
That is one reason I believe the system is desperately RAMPING UP its attacks on non-white people — and especially against black people in the U.S.
The closing of schools, the purging of blacks from the workforce, from the cities — AND from the U.S. Congress and other state and local elected bodies, the building of NEW prisons, the attacks on unionized and government jobs (where MOST black people find stable employment), and the medical and food attacks on poor people, and the rising poverty and homelessness of blacks. And on top of this, blacks are being gunned down by ordinary citizens who are getting away with MURDER.
That’s why I do not waste any time trying to convince whites of anything. I do not waste time pretending that they are innocent about racism and I would strongly suggest that ALL black (and non-white) people spend less time doing this and more time educating ourselves about the system that is coming after us.
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Linda and Trojanpam:
In response to this: R_Rob is not gullible nor is he ignorant… he knows EXACTLY what he is saying and why —
and this
The one thing I’ve learned about white people is white people are NOT ignorant about racism/white supremacy. They just use different tactics to fool their (black/non-white) victims into thinking they are.
When I made this statement: Not sure whether RR is just guillible or willfully ignorant but I lean towards the latter because there is a deliberation to his actions which he gave an example of when he talked about the 2 ‘fights’ he had with black men
I meant that he is purposeful in his intention to be disrespectful not that he lacks knowledge and understanding.
Both, excuse me, still trying to get to grips with nettiquette and I write as I speak.
Linda:
These “race realist” groups are strategically using the Internet to spread their message against black people… it’s not by accident or ignorance… to these loons, they honestly believe that the “white race” is in danger…
The fear of the race ‘dying out – in Europe, this is what I name the Enoch Powell mentality from the Rivers of Blood speech. This and the fear of the black man having the ‘whip hand’ as he put it.
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@ Omnipresent
Appreciate the clarification.
I think it is our HUMANITY that tempts us to give racists the benefit of a doubt, to try to understand where they are coming from
even when this kind of “empathy” is seldom given in return.
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@ Omnipresent
are you familiar with Dr. Frances Cress Welsing? She talks at length about these (very real) fears of whites collectively
I just googled “Enoch Powell and the rivers of blood speech” – thanks for the info
The irony is while whites are complaining about non-white immigrants (never about the whites ones),
they are the main reason non-whites are fleeing their native countries — because of European imperialism and colonization, foreign (white) invasions and warfare, and enforced poverty and joblessness CAUSED by white supremacy(?!?)
and while they complain, whites take FULL ADVANTAGE of the cheap labor of non-white immigrants to mow their lawns, clean their houses, raise their bratty children, wash dishes in restaurants, dig ditches, and populate their factories via below minimum wage jobs — ALL making mostly white people richer and more pampered
YET they still complain….?
This is pure, unadulterated, incurable SOCIOPATHY as can be seen from the article I googled about Mr. Powell:
“As Mr. Powell pointed out forty years ago, increasing numbers of native Britons are fleeing their country because they no longer consider it “worth living in for [their] children.”
sometimes the audacity, arrogance and insanity almost leave me speechless…
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@Linda
You said it and please feel free to say it again. They have been playing this game for a looonnnng time and now they have this nifty thing we all call the internet as a new tool to spread their hate.
I can never remember it (don’t really attempt to look it up much) but I watched a documentary of a skin head and the new position they had taken in inflicting their hate. That position was that of a politician.
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dang, I know they gonna let her killer go if not i’d be shocked, I just read an article that said she had alcohol and weed in her system. I know this is just what they needed to justify her murder. smh.
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TrojanPam:
are you familiar with Dr. Frances Cress Welsing? She talks at length about these (very real) fears of whites collectively
Apolgies – no, I am not familiar with her but on your recommendation, I shall have a look. Thanks
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@ Omnipresent
here’s a link for some of her best videos, especially when she debates Dr. William Shockley, who tried to “scientifically” prove blacks were inferior to whites — and Dr. Welsing MOPPED up the floor with his butt — and after that TV show aired, Dr. Shockley faded into the background
definitely, a must-see program.
http://racismws.com/dr-frances-cress-welsing-videos/
and of course, you can find her on youtube
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What saddens me Riverside Rob is that you are a vet. You did the training must have done it along side other people of color and you still get little. In-fact you now are a person that has training to do most harmful things to people and you carry around the illusion that you don’t harbor bad things in your heart. You want to see why this country is falling apart take a very good look at the mirror because one hand does not trust the other. If you made a castle it isn’t because it is pretty it is because you are scared witless of your neighbors justified or not.
Stop being scared, my goodness it would just save a whole lot of trouble. Courage does not come from a gun because any fool can use one.
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@mstoogood4yall
I bet for the next black killings they will all have “weed” in their system. Interesting how that is the choice of justification.
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http://www.freep.com/article/20131114/NEWS02/311140094/Renisha-McBride-Worthy
I don’t understand why the prosecutor’s office would release her tox screen before any public statement, before settling the fact of whether she was shot in the front or the back of the head (i guess that is quiblling at this point), the family in the video on this one says she was shot in the back of the head, of course its’ the ‘demon weed’ again, and sheesh when i was 19 there was not many saturday nights i wouldn’t have blown a .2, that is so irrelevant, except for that like it wasn’t a level where she would have been totally blacked out and perhaps not in control of herself.
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Abagond — I hope you don’t mind, but I had to share this story
I normally don’t post sensationalism-type stories to get my point across but there is too much evidence that this “fear” (that everyone is talking about regarding white people towards black people)
has a CORE motivation and I believe it is FEAR of white genetic annihilation — which accounts for WHY black people’s reproductive ability is ALWAYS under attack by the white supremacy system AND their white foot soldiers (meaning — anyone white who decides to practice racism)
These attacks come in the form of:
involuntarily sterilizations of black females (which is STILL going on)
the murder of young black males and females in their reproductive prime
the mass incarceration of hundreds of thousands of black males IN THEIR SEXUAL PRIME — so they will NOT be able to reproduce or support families, or protect and provide for their black women and children (all by design)
normalizing and promoting homosexuality among blacks, especially black males, by giving homosexual black males MORE opportunities, and punishing prominent black males who do not agree with homosexuality (Tim Hardaway, Kobe Bryant, Isaiah Washington, etc)
promoting black gender wars between black males and black females (and you can see this, in defamatory and inflammatory “rap music”, and especially in the movies and TV shows where black males and females are almost NEVER shown loving or supporting or having sex with each other but usually shown disrespecting and betraying each other (you want to see a lot of that watch the TV show “The Good Wife” — just rife with racism and pitting black people against each other)
promoting sex with white people FOR black people (never the other way around) so that more black people will be having sex and making babies with anyone BUT another black person
and now– without making this post too long — there’s a story out of Memphis, TN, about a white doctor who castrates a black baby boy during a so-called “botched” circumcision — and sends the baby home with the mother without informing her that her son was injured (!?!)
According to another doctor who says mistakes do happen:
“”I’ve been doing this for 20 years, and I have never ever seen anybody with everything completely cut off,” said Ob/Gyn Dr. Kent Lee. “Actual penectomy is extraordinarily rare.”
WHAT will it take for black people to see what is happening, that we are in a WAR — like it or NOT — for our economic, educational, and REPRODUCTIVE lives?
I will end here as I am experiencing extreme irritation right now.
http://www.wmctv.com/story/23899878/a-look-ahead-mother-claims-doctor-disfigured-son-after-botched-circumcision
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su-VVPC1P3c )
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“Every time I’m in the street, I hear ‘YAWK YAWK YAWK YAWK'”
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@ sharina
It sure is, omg weed one minute they are trying to legalize it and say its not bad the next they trying to say oh look this person had weed when they were killed. smh I guess it’s ok when whites especially white teens do it but omg a black teen does it off they go.
They have charges against him finally. But I won’t hold my breath for him to be convicted.
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http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/11/15/live-kym-worthy-announces-details-of-renisha-mcbride-investigation/
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From v8driver’s link:
“Theodore Paul Wafer, 54, is charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter and a felony firearm charge in the shooting death of Renisha McBride, 19, Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy announced during a press conference Friday.”
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Trojanpam:
So, Dr William Shockly is a ‘Raceologist’ – did I get that right’ and a Dean/Professor??? at Stanford University. Geez, and this is only 30 odd years ago. Its easy to see why these ‘theories’ are still around when they are presented in a way that is under the disguise of being legitimatly scientific!
Interesting what Dr Frances Welsing says and I paraphrase here about black people having the ‘Genetic ability to anhialate white people. Whites have a problem with their genetic status’ When I I think about Enoch Powell and people who have that mentality I think she hit the nail on the head.
For those white people who disagree with inter racial relationships, I guess this is one of their main fears.
I havent finished watching it all but appreciate you telling me about her. Very interesting and thought provoking.
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@ Omnipresent
There’s a part in the video where Dr. Shockley (a white male) ADMITS that the neurological development of black babies happens sooner than it does in white babies — YET he manages to twist that around to mean something inferior about black people….sad,sick, and pitiful sociopathic logic.
Over the last hundred years white supremacists have desperately tried to “equalize” the genetic advantage of more melanated people by occasionally promoting the idea of whites and blacks breeding together.
There is a NY TIMES article going back to 1910 promoting so-called interracial relationships between black women and white men:
“A New York Times article from 1910 outlines the White Supremacists plan to use “interracial relationships” between Black women and white males to eliminate the “Negro”, or in short, as a tool of genocide.
Here we are 100 years later and this is being pushed with aggression in the propaganda of Jewish run media, such as the Washington Post, CNN, ABC, Essence Magazine and various other films aimed at Black females. This is the same method of warfare waged by Whites against Native American females and Black aboriginal people of Australia.
This is obviously not being promoted because of “love being colorblind.” It is being promoted to eliminate those with the most color ( melanin).”
The link below has the actual photocopy of the article:
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What happens is when blacks “breed” with whites, we reduce the potency of our melanin while adding MORE melanin to the white bloodline. The children of these black/white unions often wind up being raised by the white parent–who then often turns that child against their black side. That child will more than likely breed with a white person, and that offspring will look more white than black and then will blend into the white population, enhancing and adding to their numbers — WHILE reducing the black or non-white population.
I would also strongly suggest you check out Mr. Neely Fuller, Jr. He is the most knowledgeable person I’ve ever heard about how white supremacy works….he cuts through all the academic jargon and puts it on a simple, common sense level that anyone can understand
http://theblackcodefiles.com/
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Maybe Kym Worthy can get justice for Renisha Mcbride.
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Trojanpam:
There’s a part in the video where Dr. Shockley (a white male) ADMITS that the neurological development of black babies happens sooner than it does in white babies — YET he manages to twist that around to mean something inferior about black people….sad,sick, and pitiful sociopathic logic
An mixed asian acquaintance was saying that when he went to his G.P about his intolerance to milk, he was told that this happens to poc because they are more ‘evolved’ than whites. The doctor linked this to some animals and the fact that they do not have milk past infancy. When he raised the fact that he was mixed the doctor got irritated and didnt want to acknowledge any of his white heritage because he did not look white.
At some stage I will have a look at the link that you gave, particularly as you say he ‘cuts through the jargon’. My head cant take it 🙂
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v8driver
I don’t understand why the prosecutor’s office would release her tox screen before any public statement, before settling the fact of whether she was shot in the front or the back of the head (i guess that is quiblling at this point), the family in the video on this one says she was shot in the back of the head, of course its’ the ‘demon weed’ again, and sheesh when i was 19 there was not many saturday nights i wouldn’t have blown a .2, that is so irrelevant, except for that like it wasn’t a level where she would have been totally blacked out and perhaps not in control of herself.
It’s the same way they did Trayvon Martin after his death. There’s a need to try to criminalize black corpses to try to minimize or justify their deaths.
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@ Omnipresent
I had heard for years that black babies walk and talk sooner than white and Asian babies, and even though I like the way that sounded, I wasn’t sure it was true — because black people sometimes spin the truth just like white people do
BUT when I heard Dr. Shockley ADMIT it–I think he brought it up first–then I realized that white people KNOW blacks are NOT inferior but had to create an entire system that made it APPEAR that we are in order to JUSTIFY their crimes and white domination — and to get the black (and non-white) victims to BLAME OURSELVES and each other for our mistreatment under a system of white supremacy.
Very clever and diabolical…
Was your mixed asian’s doctor white? Just curious. I have heard that black people are lactose intolerant. Also, the traditional African diet was not meat-or animal based or dairy. The origins of Europeans and their early dependence on uncooked flesh due to the cold climate, living in caves, and their late discovery of fire, can still be seen today in their preference for bloody and near-raw meat.
Which might explain why a “Western” diet proves fatal to the overall health of blacks and nonwhites.
I understand your head hurting but I prefer the pain of having some answers to my lifelong questions as opposed to stumbling around in ignorance and confusion.
(not saying, of course, that I am not still ignorant, but I am definitely LESS confused than I was five or six years ago).
I hope you will look at the links. You might be surprised how much you already knew that you didn’t realize before.
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@ abagond
Sorry, if I went off-topic.
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Trojanpam:
Was your mixed asian’s doctor white? Yes he was.
I hope you will look at the links. You might be surprised how much you already knew that you didn’t realize before.
I always try to keep an open mind so I would be interested to hear other perspectives. Thanks
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Bingo!
Another thing is why they act OBSESSED with blacks! It’s so creepy how hey watch and feel they have to control you!
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TrojanPam
white people KNOW blacks are NOT inferior but had to create an entire system that made it APPEAR that we are in order to JUSTIFY their crimes and white domination — and to get the black (and non-white) victims to BLAME OURSELVES and each other for our mistreatment under a system of white supremacy.
Very clever and diabolical…
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@ Omnipresent
Keeping an open mind is a good thing (even if it makes your head hurt 🙂
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@ Alicia
It is odd that the same people someone claims to dislike and feel superior is ALSO the objects of their sexual fetishes, fantasies, and stereotypes or that someone (superior) would spend a great deal of time trolling black websites and blogs just to post racist comments (I doubt black people spend a lot of time trolling white supremacist websites just to post comments about whites)
But what is really super odd is superior people imitating inferior people
Because blacks — especially POOR blacks — are the most imitated people on the planet. You can go all over the U.S. and all over the world and find young whites, Asians, Hispanics, etc., imitating the speech, the slang, the hand gestures, the dance, the walk, the talk, the moves of poor young black people
whites are imitated because they have power and privilege and set all the beauty standards, so it is REASONABLE that non-white people would imitate whites.
Just like if green skinned people were the most powerful and privileged people and they set the beauty standards based on their green skin and purple hair, all the people (black, brown, red, yellow, and white) would be trying to look more green, dye their hair purple, and would talk and act more green.
It is also significant that NO OTHER GROUP OF POOR PEOPLE is imitated BUT black people. No one imitates poor Hispanics, poor Asians, or poor whites — but EVERYONE — even TV newscasters using ‘black slang’ are imitating poor black people. Even white Aryan nation folks are calling each other “bro” and doing the black man handshakes. Even the Japanese teenagers are imitating the singing and dancing style of black youth.
How can this be when blacks are the most inferior people on the planet? I don’t see how black inferiority can exist at the same time that blacks are so imitated worldwide — unless the rest of the world is INSANE, because only an insane person would imitate inferiority
So, like Dr. Welsing said during her debate with Dr. Shockley, it is more likely that the INFERIOR living, working and educational experiences of blacks is the reason for the appearance of us being inferior. And if we were truly inferior, whites supremacists would not have to create inferior conditions and schools to make whites “more equal” because there would be no need to do it.
I also think the obsession with blacks is about keeping close tabs on the enemy (us) to make sure we never recover from our 500 years of white oppression.
keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
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I wonder if Renisha Mcbride had been a blonde and blue eyed white girl would he have unloaded his shot gun? Mcbride’s parents say they don’t want this to become a racial issue, I am sure they were advised by their legal counsel to say this. But I honestly don’t know how it cannot be a racial issue. These are just my thoughts today.
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Even if they did find marijuana and alcohol in her system, she didn’t deserve to be shot. I can’t imagine what frightened this Theodore Wafer character so bad, that he felt he had to take such a drastic measure as to shoot this young woman in the head. I hope he spends the rest of his life in jail.
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Mary they released his picture, he probably would not have shot is she was white. I do think lawyers tell the families not to say it had to do with race maybe because we already know the jurors will be white and u can’t go around “whining” about it had to do with race. We know he more than likely won’t spend his life in prison he may just serve the minimum
Here’s the low life here and bit of the 911 audio http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2013/11/renisha_mcbride_911_call_i_jus.html
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@mstoogood4yall: I saw that. I am sick in my heart. I think we all know how this is going to end. SMH.
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@ Riverside Rob: Comment deleted for making insulting, personal remarks.
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“The blast struck the teen in her face after opening his front door and firing through a “locked” screen door, Worthy said.”
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2013/11/renisha_mcbride_shooter_arraig.html
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v8driver
The more we hear about what happened, the more insidious it gets.
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@abagond
Insulting and personal remarks or his regular dose of whining.
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@abagond
Are you familiar with Genore Guillory murder?
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[…] Renisha McBride […]
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@ deepfried
I just looked that murder up and am disgusted. she helped those people and they killed her. This is why it is so hard for people to even give a dam or help other people because they do some ish like this and betray.
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@mstoogood4yall
Exactly. It’s ridiculous.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25452765
“Detroit homeowner to be tried for shooting of Renisha McBride”
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This is my first time reading about this and the guy in NC. Wow; that is just horrible; you can’t even knock on someone’s door for help without getting shot simply because you’re black? The gun just “went off” in her face? Are you freaking kidding me? I am seriously feeling some kind of way about this. Something is so disturbingly wrong with that; it’s subhuman.
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[…] Bill O’Reilly agreed that blacks and Hispanics are the most violent. Hence, the murders of Renisha McBride, Jonathan Ferrell, Andy Lopez and even Hadiya Pendleton are no big deal, and Stop and Frisk are […]
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/justice/michigan-porch-shooting-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
“Man who shot unarmed Michigan teen convicted of second-degree murder”
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Renisha McBride’s killer gets 17 years:
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/09/theodore_wafer_sentenced_to_at_least_17_years_for_renisha_mcbride_s_death.html?wpisrc=topstories
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I always give people the benefit of the doubt but this man’s reasoning is unacceptable. First it was an accident, the weapon went off. Then he was frightened for his life, angry at the deterioration of his neighbourhood and purposely shot as soon as he opened the door. You just cannot do that. It’s unacceptable. He now has to pay the price for choosing to take a life.
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