This post carries over from a thread on the Suggestions page:
Some people say that when a black man is in an interracial couple we hear all about it but when a black woman is you hardly do.
I get that feeling too, but it is a hard thing to prove. The best I can come up with is to list all the famous people I can think of who have been part of an interracial couple (just black-and-white ones) and see if there is any sort of imbalance. In the writing of this blog and reading its comments I have found out about interracial couples I had no idea of, like Billy Bob Thornton and Cynda Williams, but I will not count those (they are listed later in the post).
Here is my list:
- Gabrielle Beauvais
- Robert De Niro
- Kid Rock
- Roger Ebert
- Diana Ross
- Seal and Heidi Klum
- David Bowie and Iman
- Quincy Jones
- Sidney Poitier
- Ice-T
- Naomi Campbell
- Clarence Thomas
- The Lovings
- Tiger Woods
- Kobe Bryant
- Ray J and Kim Kardashian
- Simon Cowell
- Robin Thicke
- Cuba Gooding
- Grace Jones
- O.J. Simpson
So, out of 21 couples 10 have a black man and 11 have a black woman, which means interracial couples with black men are not any better known (assuming, of course, that they are equal in number, which is certainly not the case in America as a whole).
Now break it down by the race and sex of the famous person:
- 9 black men: Seal, Jones, Poitier, Ice-T, Thomas, Woods, Bryant, Ray J, Simpson.
- 7 white men: De Niro, Rock, Ebert, Bowie, Mr Loving, Cowell, Thicke.
- 6 black women: Beauvais, Ross, Iman, Campbell, Mrs Loving, Jones.
- 2 white women: Klum, Kardashian.
Again it seems more or less balanced, though black men are at the top, but look at white women: only two, and both are (were) with a black man who is also famous!
Why is that?
A simple answer is to say that women want to marry up while men do not care. So in American society white women would tend not to marry a black man unless he was rich or famous. That makes sense of the imbalance given above, but it utterly fails to make sense of the fact that in most black-and-white marriages in America it is the man who is black.
Some other famous people who have been in a black-and-white interracial relationship (at least according to Internet rumour):
- black men:
- Akon
- James Earl Jones
- John Legend
- Montell Williams
- Reggie Bush
- Sammy Davis, Jr
- Taye Diggs
- T-Pain
- white men:
- Ben Broufman
- Bill Maher
- Billy Bob Thornton
- Boris Becker
- Brad Pitt
- Clint Eastwood
- Colin Farrell
- George Lucas
- Kevin Federline
- Marc Bolan (T. Rex)
- Mark Ecko
- Matt Stone (“South Park”)
- Matthew McConaughey
- MC Serch
- Mick Jagger
- Paul Krugman
- Paul Wall
- Peter Norton (of Norton antivirus software)
- Prince Albert of Monaco
- Prince Maximilian of Liechtenstein
- Shia LaBeouf
- Ted Danson
- William Cohen (former Defence Secretary)
- Wolfgang Puck
- black women:
- Aisha Tyler
- Alfre Woodard
- Alice Walker
- Beverly Johnson
- Chaka Khan
- Cynda Williams
- Debra Wilson (“MADtv”)
- Diahann Carroll
- Donna Summer
- Dorothy Dandridge
- Downtown Julie Brown
- Erica Dunlap (Miss America 2004)
- Estelle
- Eve
- Halle Berry
- Heather Headley
- Jamaica Kincaid
- Janet Jackson
- June Jordan
- Kerry Washington
- Kim Wayans
- Lena Horne
- Leslie Uggams
- Lynn Whitfield
- Minnie Riperton
- Oluchi Onweagba
- Paula Patton
- Pearl Bailey
- Rihanna
- Robin Givens
- Roxie Roker (Helen Willis on “The Jeffersons”, Lenny Kravitz’s mother)
- Sade
- Sharon Leal
- Sherri Saum
- Stacey Dash
- Susan Rice
- Suzan-Lori Parks
- Tamyra Gray (“American Idol”)
- Thandie Newton
- Tina Turner
- Tracey Edmonds
- Traci Bingham
- Venus Williams
- Victoria Rowell
- Whoopi Goldberg
- Zoe Kravitz
- white women:
- Ellen Pompeo (“Grey’s Anatomy”)
See also:
I really like Heidi Klum & Seal–individually & as a couple.
My add to the list: Kevin Federline (Britney’s ex) & Shar Jackson (actress). Kevin has two kids with Shar. I’ve always thought of Ray J & Kim Kardashian as friends with benefits, but not a relationship. This is the first time I’ve heard about a relationship between Billy Bob Thornton & Cynda Williams.
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Hey, abagond if you know where Stacey Dash can be located, Field Negro (blog) is looking for her. He’s probably offering a reward.
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I have a male relative by marriage who’s Asian. I decided to check on some blogs and websites for Asians and discovered quite a few Asian men are unhappy about the imbalance between AM/WW and AW/WM. If you check out website modelminority.com hardly a day goes by without some guy ranting about Asian men being excluded from the media. (I actually agree that Asian men are under represented in the media..) Many of them imply there is a conspiracy to exclude all men of color from accessing white women. As that applies to black men and white women, the conspiratorial powers that be appear to be failing.
That said I do think heterosexual Asian men and Black women are under represented as viable attractive partners in fiction. (Gay Asian men are very popular..)
Recent sightings of WM/BW couples on TV. Lost – the middle white dentist and his black wife. I can’t remember the character names.
Gina Torres and the white guy who played the pilot in Firefly.
The character Eli Loker and a Ugandan woman on the TV show Lie to me.
Movies:
Clerks II – Rosario Dawson and Brian O’Halloran. Brian O’Halloran’s character leaves his white girlfriend to be with Rosario Dawson’s character.
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BW/WM pairings are very common in American film and TV but BM/WW pairings are shown dramatically less. Why is that? Especially when most black/white relationships are comprised of a black man and white woman?
Also, it’s silly to correlate celebs to everyday people.
For what it’s worth: There’s many more celebs who have been in IR relationships than the ones you listed but they weren’t as publicized. There’s quite a few IR relationships that had to be played down due to concerns of how it may effect the celeb’s public image.
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Also, it’s silly to correlate celebs to everyday people.
True, but Abagond created this blog entry in response to your, Regina’s, and my posts about interracial celebrities on the Suggestions page:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/suggestions/#comment-18616
From previous you said:
“Yeah, there are many famous white men who are married or involved with black women (and vice versa) yet they don’t get close to the same media attention that Seal/Heidi or Bush/Kardashian get. I don’t think it’s too hard to figure out why that is.”
In your current post you say:
“BW/WM pairings are very common in American film and TV but BM/WW pairings are shown dramatically less. Why is that? ”
Do you think the US media downplays real WM/BW relationships and plays up fictional WM/BW relationships?
Hollywood types pair BM more often with Latina women (Eva Mendez with what 5 black male leads..) because supposedly some black women and some whites are not comfortable seeing a BM/WW onscreen.
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Yes ir does happen, yes it is often misrepresented by media, historically it has mainly been between white men and various women of colour around the world from amerindian communities to the phillipeans, that is not represented in the media but what is often represented is this view that men of colour are always chasing white partners, be they straight or gay.
think on that and why it is represented in that fashion?
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To Mynameismyname and Lifeisannoying,
That’s a good question. Can I say that the media publicizes men of Color with white women because of their divide and conquer mentality? See, they want to get men and women of Color all rile up over such pairings while whites are either silent on the subject or angry over it. Case in point: St. Louis Post-Dispatch Go cover featured a Black man and a white woman kissing, enraging angry people all over that city.
La Reyna
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Aisha Tyler (list two) is married to a WM and has been for some time. Aisha has not enjoyed a high level of celebrity (a travesty in my mind because she’s extremely talented, strikingly lovely and, by all accounts, a very nice person, but females in comedy have a tough go of it in general), and her husband is not a celebrity at all.
Heidi Klum and Seal are both megawatt international celebrities of the highest caliber. Both are “A-Listers” in their individual capacities, and both are gregarious types who aren’t afraid to hit the town and be seen. They’re also both considered beautiful from a physical perspective. It’s no surprise that they receive a lot of attention.
How many other current two-A-list couples have been together in marriage as long as these two? Brangelina, Becks and Posh, that’s about all that come to mind at present.
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Heather Headley is indeed married to a white man. I remember seeing her marriage announcement in Jet magazine when I was in middle school…so she’s been married for about 7 years…
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reggie B. is Currently with Kim Kard.
Donna Summers i believe had a child by a white man, it’s on racialicious some where
wolfgang is married to a black women
debra wilson is
kerry washington is with a white man too
Mark Ecko in fact is
did you try googling these people in image search?
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What about Tina Turner? She’s been with Erwin Bach (German producer) for almost 20 years now.
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Victoria Rowell
Montel Williams
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James Earl Jones
Downtown Julie Brown
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Thanks! I just added them – and two others I just remembered: Alice Walker and June Jordan.
I had no idea there were so many!
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@ Blanc2: I like Aisha Tyler too. It is a shame we do not see more of her. I loved her on “Talk Soup” way back when.
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To La Reyna:
Can I say that the media publicizes men of Color with white women because of their divide and conquer mentality?
Whatever you make of it.. understand.. that is also the white supremacist view of interracial portrayals in the media.
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the media has actually come out and said why they show bm ww couples more than wm bw couples. they say they do it because ww are the major consumers and they dont want to anger them by showing wm with bw.
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the media has actually come out and said why they show bm ww couples more than wm bw couples. they say they do it because ww are the major consumers and they dont want to anger them by showing wm with bw.
“the media”
errr ok…
Does that mean one guy wrote an article when he was bored or did every corporate media head issue a joint statement?
Do you have a link?
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yes the media fool.
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To jasmine:
What you said:
yes the media fool.
the media has actually come out and said why they show bm ww couples more than wm bw couples.
And I repeat what I said:
“Do you have a link?”
To back up your statement..?
Or is it just easier to call someone names?
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you make it easy to call you a name!!!
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I put it like this. Jasmine’s statement is more of a theory than a fact. It does appear that the media does seem to be very bias on showcasing bw romantically involve with wm but also with bm. I read some gossip magazines every now and then when I’m over relatives houses. I noticed that when a bw (who is not a celebrity) is rarely mentioned if she is in a relationship with a man of status. I noticed that with ball players like Kobe him and his wife is always mentioned but Lebron James and his lady is not mentioned in mainstream media. I’m pretty sure it isn’t because LeBron is not as famous as Kobe because he is just as famous as Kobe. So I’m assuming because his lady is black that they are not very interested. Black love is always “not interesting” to mainstream media IF they are both of status. I also noticed that when they show candid photos of Denzel, is wife is never shown in the magazines or blogs. However you do see him and his wife Pauletta on black blogs and magazines. I’m pretty sure if his wife was non-black they would not have a problem.
Now as far as BW/WM couples, I think that they are only biased when the white man is a sex symbol. If a white male celebrity was marketed as a sex symbol his targeted audience will be mostly white females. Jasmine is correct that white woman make up more of America’s population of women so they are leaning more for their support than the minority women. Also sex symbols are more marketable and more profitable. There are white male celebrities who are sex symbols that have to compromise their choice in women to please white women because they are afraid that white women will not be interested in them anymore if they are romantically involved with a woman of another race especially black women. I have read some comments of white women being upset at Matthew McCougnahey being with someone who isn’t white. They were using black american women stereostypes against to support why she wasn’t good enough for Matthew. The funny thing is she is Afro-Brazillian. Also Gerard Butler is marketed as some sex symbol as well and he has a thing for black women as well. They made nasty comments that were racially skewed. That’s why I don’t understand why black women are mocked for being the ones upset at interracial relationship between bm and other non-black women because I have seen just as much nasty comments made against bw for being with someone outside their race especially if he is a sexy white male of status.
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““Do you have a link?”
To back up your statement..?
Or is it just easier to call someone names?”
Milton, don’t you know it’s racist to ask someone to back up their claims? There is no need for your white man’s facts and logic here.
Here we celebrate the TRUTH, which means giving your opinion and then expecting everyone to accept it as undeniable gospel. If you disagree, you’re a RACIST IDIOT!!
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I agree 100% with Dani’s comment.
Many people are shocked to learn that the vast majority of black NBA & NFL players are married to black women. Pictures of D. Wade, Lebron and Dwight Howard and their (non-light skinned) black women are hard to come by. But Reggie Bush, Kobe and Tiger Woods and their white women are shoved down our throats.
Perhaps, in the minds of many, a famous, celebrated black man is supposed to marry a white or near-white women when he “makes it”? That’s “marrying up” in their warped minds.
Like I said, many famous white men who are seen as desirable have been involved (and sometimes, procreated) with black women “on the low”. It’s ridiculous.
Yes, white women become downright vicious when a desirable white man choses a black woman. Remember, their whiteness makes them superior, how could a white man chose the ultimate inferior (black) over them? It’s sick, but that’s how Western society is molded.
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racerealist said:
Milton, don’t you know it’s racist to ask someone to back up their claims? There is no need for your white man’s facts and logic here.
It is perfectably acceptable to ask someone to back up his claim. I deleted the comments where jasmine called Uncle Milton names.
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Lynette,
They focus on interracial couples that are not with bw. Especially if the man is a sex symbol. I think the media is more biased towards us than black men. I mean Denzel Washington is considered a sex symbol by all women. However, his wife is a dark skinned black woman. According to our western culture, that is not really considered attractive. So therefore she is not worthy and she is not good enough. I mean damn have you read the comments on Michelle Obama? People are down right harsh.
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yes, all of y’all are making my original point. there are LOTS of famous and rich wm married to bw, but you dont ever see it in the media. go to whitewomensuck.com and there is a slide show on the many white dudes married and dating bw.
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I’ve seen pics of Denzel Washington kissing Julia Roberts. However, it’s true: unless it’s a black magazine, you’ll rarely see pics of Denzel together with his wife Pauletta (who happens to be dark skinned).
I’m from L.A. and when any of the awards ceremonies are held, you see BM/WW couples shown together sitting in the audience, but they will deliberately make it a point to only show 1/2 of the BW/WM couples.
Taj, Tia and Tamara Mowery’s mom is black and their dad is white. When the family is shown together in white magazines, the father was never in the picture. For a long time, I thought that they were being raised by a single mom! I found out that their father was white when I saw a pic of the family in a black magazine!
You hardly ever see pics of Robert DeNiro with his black wife and their son’s together. Nor do you see pics of Alfre Woodard and her husband, Roderick Spencer.
Black women in the U.S. are seen as the least attractive group of women by mainstream society.
A few years back, I remember reading in either Essence or Ebony magazine an interview on Samuel Jackson and his wife. She said that they were at a movie premier and a photographer asked Samuel who was the most beautiful woman there. He responded, “My wife.” The photographer replied in a shocked tone of disbelief, “Her???”
Has anyone noticed how you don’t see many dark skinned black women opposite black men in the movies? Most of the black men’s romantic love interests are latina, light skinned/mixed-raced black women, or white.
Don’t get me wrong, light skinned and mixed-race black women are beautiful, but as most of us already know, black beauty comes in a wide range of shades. For example, Keisha Knight Pulliam is one example of a gorgeous dark skinned black woman. You won’t see her starring opposite Will Smith as his love interest anytime soon though.
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“A few years back, I remember reading in either Essence or Ebony magazine an interview on Samuel Jackson and his wife. She said that they were at a movie premier and a photographer asked Samuel who was the most beautiful woman there. He responded, “My wife.” The photographer replied in a shocked tone of disbelief, “Her???””
Get out! Man people are really harsh on the sistas. He is suppose to say his wife is beautiful. No one should question that.
As far as dark-skin women not being romantically played in movies with black men, I would say I saw more of it in the 70’s to the 90’s but I think that since the Black entertainment market is trying to catch up with Hollywood now, they use more safer women playing alongside with black men. They say because having two dark skinned blacks in a film or tv, is “too black”.
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It’s clear that Hollywood and the media cultivate/promote the MADNESS of ANTI-BW HATE. This is why BW (and all PRO-BW advocates) must do EVERYTHING in our power to DESTROY the ANTI-BW LIES, MYTHS, AND STEREOTYPES they use to TRASH our HUMANITY, DIGNITY, and FEMININITY.
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Agabond: I couldn’t agree more. Aisha was the best host Talk Soup ever had. I lived in San Francisco back then. She is as nice and smart and funny in person as she was on TV. But prettier in person. She’s drop-dead gorgeous. Doesn’t hurt that she’s like 6 feet tall.
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Hollywood is racist, but the race of Will Smith’s on-screen love interest is strictly a business decision:
If his love interest is a supporting character, she can be black and probably will be black, like Lisa Bonet and Regina King in “Enemy of the State”.
If his love interest is the co-star, then she pretty much has to be Latina or Asian: If she is black, that would make it into a “black” film and only blacks will come out in large numbers to see it. If she is white, then he cannot kiss her without it also cutting down on the audience – all those whites who are uncomfortable seeing that kind of stuff.
The reason you see black men in more interracial relationships in films is because they are starring in more films aimed at whites. It is a sign of progress in a backwards kind of way.
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Blanc2: I am jealous!
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Exactly, Aba, the reason why you see Will, Denzel, Chris Tucker, etc. with racially ambigious or non-black love interests in big-budget Hollywood vehicles intended for the “general” audience is purely econonomical. It’s business, straight and simple.
Yet, the fact that you won’t see Will or Denzel kissing a white starlet in a film goes to show you that specific IR combo(BM/WW) is still the most controversial. And I argue that it’s not a sign of progress at all.
Also, “Dreamgirls”, “Color Purple”, “Stomp The Yard”, “Waiting To Exhale” and several other “black” films did very well at the box office with a variety of audiences and few whites were present in the film at all. So, I don’t buy the “they won’t see it if it’s a black film” argument.
I have a part time job working at a public library. Most of the patrons that check out the Tyler Perry films are white. Many East Asians and South Asians also appear to be fans.
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Also, “Dreamgirls”, “Color Purple”, “Stomp The Yard”, “Waiting To Exhale” and several other “black” films did very well at the box office with a variety of audiences and few whites were present in the film at all. So, I don’t buy the “they won’t see it if it’s a black film” argument
I don’t buy that argument neither. I think that anyone can enjoy a film regardless of the race of the characters. i enjoed “the Joy Luck Club” and that was based on chinese cultural and the women who are affected by their patriarchal culture. Any Hollywood executive that usue that argument is very suspect to me. It’s seems to me that they want to maintain status quo in Hollywood.
The reason you see black men in more interracial relationships in films is because they are starring in more films aimed at whites. It is a sign of progress in a backwards kind of way.
It is progress in a backwards way. I haven’t really seen the same in return for many black actresses lol. It’s going to be awhile for we really get out dues in Hollywood.
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If Hollywood wasn’t such proponent of ANTI-BW RACISM, someone as talented and beautiful as Aisha Tyler would be a huge star by now as are her White counterparts (with similar looks and talents).
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Actually, Dani, most IR relationships in Hollywood films that feature a black person are comprised of black female/white male. Less taboo. Like I said, black male/white woman is the most controversial pairing.
Again, I don’t see how nixing a black love interest in fear that it may turn away a white audience is a sign of progress. It’s the opposite. It just reveals how deeply embedded the racism in American society is.
I agree, Aisha Tyler and many, many other black starlets should be much bigger than they are. It’s already hard for women in the business, regardless of ethnicity, but it’s doubly hard for black women.
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Actually, Dani, most IR relationships in Hollywood films that feature a black person are comprised of black female/white male. Less taboo. Like I said, black male/white woman is the most controversial pairing.
Actually I’ve seen more IR relationships between WM/AW and sometimes WM/HW in American films. If they do have one between BW/WM, it’s usually has some kind of racial undertone theme, which is annoying. It’s always drama when a black person is in a IR lol. However, yes I will agree that it is controversial for a BM/WW because it is not so taboo. However, from reading commentary on films that have BW/WM in it, it’s not taken serious because the BW is starring in it. I was watching some interview with Mark Wahlberg and the interviewer and Mark were joking about him having a black love interest (Which is Thandie Newton) in “The Truth About Charlie”. So if the interviewer can ask him about Thandie Newton starring along side with him and mentioning her race, then it raises some eyebrows. I see more IR film with Black women in indie foreign films. However, American films still has racial stigmatism.
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Oh yeah Aisha Tyler is cool. I love her personality.
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I added more names based on this slide show from the blog White Women Suck (it seems to have been made by a white guy because every single picture has a white guy with a woman who is NOT white):
http://www.slide.com/r/CD2GjSeFyz-4fY8MPCJ1hgKNb_6ZP1Ze?map=2&cy=bb
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There is severe speculation that the White Women Suck is not run by a White man, but as by a Black female masquerading as a White man in order to offer “perspective”. A perspective that would be dismissed as pure jealousy if it were revealed to be written by a Black woman.
Notice the overwhelming amount of Black female contributors in the comments section and notice the lack of White men who are willing to state that their wives, mothers, daughters, sisters, etc suck.
It is easy to pretend to be someone else on the internet.
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I clicked on that link, and what an interesting link.
First two pictures has Josh Hartnett with Rhianna as a couple. I don’t follow pop culture much, but did I miss something? The album is so desperate for images, they had Bill Maher with 4 or 5 different girlfriends, LOL. And that is in the first 45-50 pics, as I stopped viewing at that point.
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Thanks for the warning. I will confirm the ones I have doubts about (as much as anything can be confirmed on the Internet, history’s biggest rumour mill). Bill Maher I know for a fact has had black girlfriends.
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black men need 2 leave white women alone
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i mean come on every time a black man gets paid he go get a snowbunnie rite or wrong?
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Some do, but hardly all or even most. It is just that people notice it when they do.
White people like it because they think it proves something about their women being better than black women, not understanding the part that internalized racism sometimes plays in such decisions.
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also…
Bob Dylan
Eric Clapton
Mick Jagger
Robert Plant of Led Zeppelin
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Amazing that in this day and age Black Women would be so preoccupied with what white men do and don’t like in Black Women.
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@ Malaak,
I agree totally, I for one couldn’t give a toss what White men do. Black women spend way too much obsessing about it so much I find it embarassing. Where I live in London, it’s them doing the chasing and some black women reciprocate because of the dismal economical situation of black men, and it’s BAD!!
For the past two weeks there hasn’t been a day that goes by that a black man isn’t featured on the news as a robber, rapist, gang member you name it. I don’t live in the black community but even I feel affected!
Having said that I really don’t blame some black women for choosing white males as a safer option.
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There really needs to be an honest debate for what happens to black men in the West. A UK Shock jock called Ron Liddle was vilified last week for pointing out that black males commit crimes at a hugely disproportional rate in London. He was branded a racist, but I agree with him.
Why can’t black men sort themselves out.
Worrying about a few black males with white women isn’t addressing what really plaques the black community.
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You forgot Trent Reznor. It sometimes looks like he dated black women only, though this isn’t true. He married a Filipina.
If his love interest is the co-star, then she pretty much has to be Latina or Asian: If she is black, that would make it into a “black” film and only blacks will come out in large numbers to see it. If she is white, then he cannot kiss her without it also cutting down on the audience – all those whites who are uncomfortable seeing that kind of stuff.
That is horrible to hear. So, whites wouldn’t watch a film with black couple as leading characters? And they feel uncomfortable seeing interracial couples???
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go- kendra….go kendra lol
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Why are most interracial couples composed of a white girl and a black guy?
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^Because white girls love black men.
From my experience.
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it is interesting that there are more white men black women couplings in the media (more common) than outside of showbiz. but there are more white women when you dig deeper than just ellen pompeo. more interracial relationships:
-model doutzen krous and dj roukas (became abit of issue with white supremists).
-teena marie
-many footballers, jermaine defoe and his women, cheryl and ashley cole, rio ferdinand, theirry henry. many footballers end up with white women, except a few exceptions namely keiran richardson and natalie sulliman and jamelia and darren.
-rosario dawson and current boyfriend plus previous-jason lewis.
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haha melanie interesting you say that because normally people assume more black men love white women. but in many instances it is more common to see a white women approaching and flirting with a black man in a club than a black women going up to a black men. it does seem like some white women seek out black men.
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rick foxx and eliza dushku. I think they make a good looking couple. the guys face behind them is priceless.
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wrong link above, this is the right one:
derek jeter has also mostly dated white or latino women. he is now with minka kelly:
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i am young (in my 20s) and my boyfriend is black. we will get married. i am white (light eyes and dark blond/brunette hair). i was just looking for some mixed celebrity kids pictures and i think they look adorable! i would love if this website would post names of current kids that are mixed..it took me a lot of research to find some..
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Your probably better off going over to –
http://www.mulatto.org/
However, I think that site does have a list of celebrity couples. (which falls in line with the intention of this thread).
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John Willow said:
“Why are most interracial couples composed of a white girl and a black guy?”
That’s wrong! In the U.S.A. White guy East Asian girl couples are the most common!
Yet most yanks still buy into that crap that black men love white women!
Bakas!
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kim kardashian is not white, fool.
she is mixed race – armenian/white.
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Armenians are white, fool.
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LOL at Eurasian Sensation! Is it just me or is anyone else tired of always focusing on interracial relationships that involve people of color with white people? If a Black woman is not with a Black man, then it seems like people assume she will be with a white man. Why is the white man the default man? What about Asian, Latino and Native American men?! I’m more interested in hearing about interracial relationships between people of color.
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mochasister,
I think it’s all because white is seen as “default”. Also, in cultures where whites are seen as majority, I guess, they would be the first to think about when thinking of Interracial relationships.
Which doesn’t make this way of thinking any better. Interracial couples not involving whites are equally important and equally interracial and whatever people think about interracial relationships usually applies to those. However, in (white) people’s mind, anything not involving them is, more often than not, not worth discussing. *
* Might be an universal human trait, though.
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Update your research. As a former New Yorker, I know for a fact that Idina Menzel (white woman) and Taye Diggs (black man) were dating for YEARS before they got married in 2003. According to your blog it was merely “a rumor” from the Internet. Thank you!
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Van Salee and his African Muslim woman left behind ancestors like the descendants of Van Sickles, Anderson Cooper, Humphrey Bogart, the Whitneys, the Vanderbilts, Isaac and Henry Southard, and descendants of John Henry Hammond.
Laurence Herman Versluis (his distant cousin is Quincy Jones) has a very distant African Relative:
Unknown Black woman
Elizabeth Key
William Grinstead, Jr.
William Grinstead, III
John Grinstead
Jesse Grinstead
Jesse Grinstead, Jr.
Jesse Bowles Grinstead
John Thomas Grinstead
Clara May Grinstead
Bonnie Bell Martin
Laurence Herman “Gus” Versluis (Always remember old Gus.)
Francis Skipper married to an African woman and his descendant is Hank Williams!
Arlene Elshinnawy and her husband is a white Egyptian.
So does John Weeks Jefferson (descendant of Thomas Jefferson and his black woman, Sally Hemings.)
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Thanks for putting some perspective on this heated debate. It would seem that both black men and black women date outside their race and why not? Race is an illusion anyway – a construct of man to divide each other. Genetically, race is non existent as we’re all 99.9999999999999%* genetically identical and in that .0000000000000001%* difference there is absolutely no race gene. *I don’t know the exact decimal place but it’s a very long number.
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“Genetically, race is non existent as we’re all 99.9999999999999%* genetically identical and in that .0000000000000001%* difference there is absolutely no race gene. *I don’t know the exact decimal place but it’s a very long number.”
Not only that, but two people can physically look as if they belong to the same “race” and yet have come to that look through totally different phenotypical genetics. African genetics are particularly varied, so that Africans peoples are very often more genetically different from one another than they are from other “races.”
Genetically, what we think of as” the Black race” should really be understood as several dark skinned “races.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/feb/17/desmond-tutu-genome-genetic-diversity
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I think the reason why BW/WM couples are more common in media (particularly advertising) is because black women have been moving up socially in the work place in the last 20 years and also because it’s not considered ‘wrong’ for a white man to date hispanic or black women…although it is out of the accepted norm to actually marry them. Many WM consider darker women to be ‘exotic’ but end up marrying WW because of the established norm. Also, because of the lack of BM who go on to get an education, BW often end up dating WM or men of another race.
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i am a white female and my boyfriend is black….personally i feel people should stop focusing on colour and media….and just get on with living…..it is never easy being in a mixed relationship…….however if people stopped focusing on it it may be a step forward…..people do not have to like what they see…however in some instances they should be mature and respect that their opion is merely there opinion. It is hard enough trying to learn different cultures and how to get on with parents without some stranger emphasizing there opinion. Just let it be…why does the human race want to create so many devides!!!
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This issue about a black woman being with a man of another race tends to be somewhat of a taboo, especially if the man is white. It has been accepted in society to see a black man with a woman of another race, and it needs to be the same for a black woman. Then these ‘taboo’ stereotypes can vanish. There should be more black women with white men, but the ‘taboo’ feeling comes into play with the woman and man thinking about the reactions from friends and family members. The woman and man need to think more about themselves together and STAY together to break the ‘taboo’ issue. I should know, I’m a white male who is married to a beautiful black woman.
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Well, the reactions tend to be different among different groups of people. It’s been my experience in L.A. that most Black guys don’t se WM/BF couples as taboo (aside from the fire breathing Afro-supremacist, but almost no one listens to them). I’m not sure if White people see it as a taboo?
I do know that a White guy dating a Black girl is more often assumed to be “real love” than a Black guy dating a White girl, which is more often assumed to be about sexual self-aggrandizement.
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Ernie Hudson’s wife is white
And where’s Chiwetel Ejiofor and Radha Mitchell?
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Oh yeah, does Hugh Grant count? LOL
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Just a found a site about WM/BF couples with a lot of names not here like Zoe Saldana, Joy Bryant, Paul Thomas Anderson and Maya Rudolph, Chris Noth, Ron Perlman, Rutina Wesley, Lisa Bonet, Audra McDonald, James Frain, Scooter Libby, Tamera Mowry, Justin Chambers, Iggy Pop, Sonja Sohn, and more.
http://justlikemecouples.blogspot.com/
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