Killed so far in 2016: 0
Last update: April 14th 2016.
An incomplete list of unarmed Black people killed so far by ISIS in 2016:
Those I have done posts on have a bolded link (none so far).
format: date: name, age, town, state, cause of death.
- none so far.
I will update this list throughout the year.
– Abagond, 2016.
See also:
- Lynching statistics by race and year: 1882-1968
- Unarmed Black Americans killed by police in 2016
- Unarmed Black Americans killed by police in 2015
- The extremely incomplete list of unarmed Blacks killed by police – for those killed since 1964. It has maybe a tenth of all such cases – the tip of the iceberg.
- Those killed by the NYPD in 2013
- ISIS
- Flint Water Crisis
Who is our real enemy. Hmmmmm.
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Weren’t black people killed in the San Bernadino shooting?
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Sierra Clayborn and Isaac Amanios (Black Latino American). So you got 2 Black American victims right there.
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Actually Solesearch, Abagond is right. The San Bernadino thing happened in Dec 2,
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this can only remind me of muhammed ali during vietnam
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“Weren’t black people killed in the San Bernadino shooting?” – Solesearch
Tashfeen Malik and Syed Rizwan, the San Bernardino radical supporters of ISIS were just that. One who professes support for a cause or is clearly different from one who is a direct affiliate for a cause.
Don’t you think it would be equally ignorant to believe or imply that supporters of the hijackers that crashed commercial jets into NY’s Twin Towers in 2001 are just as guilty as the culprits that actually participated?
Therefore, your insinuation that ISIS has killed some black people is woefully incorrect.
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I don’t know if this qualifies but Patrick Brown was beaton to death by other inmates while in police custody. The police are ultimately responsible for the safety of the citizens they arrest and detain.
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/inmate-beaten-to-death-after-spending-less-than-48-hours-in-harris-county-jail-8319129
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^ Sorry I posted this in the wrong thread
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Right, San Bernardino was last year and ISIS did not claim credit. Nor have they taken over any US police departments as far as I know 😉
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@ Abagond
I sense that you are introducing the new count “Unarmed Black Americans killed by ISIS in 2016” in order to be able to compare with the count “Unarmed Black Americans killed by police in 2016” during and by the end of the current year.
Seems fair and we all know what the outcome will be (= the American police is worse).
But are you sure that it is fair?
Isn’t the viciousness of ISIS better characterized by its victims there, in its main theater of operations (in the Middle East; more specifically in Syria)?
ISIS is doing more harm to people of color (brown people in the Middle East) than the American police to people of color (Black + brown + yellow, etc)!
Therefore it is far worse, in my opinion.
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@ blakksage
Not automatically, but it is a feature of many Isalmist organizations/movements, that they work as a franchise. So a group pledeges allegiance to another which it previously had no contact with. Hrd to say form which point on they are one.
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@ munubantu
Right, I am not allowed to talk about the value of Black American lives without having to point out that ALL lives matter.
Yes, ALL lives matter. But ISIS is a state enemy of the US and the US has the biggest media machine in history, so they got that covered. They do not need my help. Anyone able to reach this blog is already well-informed of their crimes.
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You probably ought to correct that to black Americans. ISIS or their kin have killed thousands of unarmed black people in Africa.
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Kartoffel said: “Not automatically, but it is a feature of many Isalmist organizations/movements, that they work as a franchise. So a group pledeges allegiance to another which it previously had no contact with. Hrd to say form which point on they are one.”
No, … its not hard to figure out because franchises do not shoot people. For example, if an idiot proceeds on a rampage and shoot up an elementary school, do we then also blame the gun manufacturer and the gun shop owner as well? Where is the franchise in this sense?
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@ Blanc2
Huh? Did I not say “Black Americans” right in the title and in my last comment?
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@ blakksage
I don’t get your point. The shooter in your example normally doesn’t say that they committed the shooting on behalf of the gun manufacturer or seller.
Yet it is normal for IS and Al-Qaeda to get alignements from islamist factions around the world. The difference between the relationship IS-San Bernardino shooters differs to the IS in Syria/Iraq- IS in Libya only in that the in the former the mother faction hasn’t accepted their endorsement to my knowledge.
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Do all Black lives matter or just American Black lives?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/12/middleeast/isis-boko-haram/
Boko Haram is an extension of ISIS. How many unarmed Black lives has ISIS taken through Boko Haram in 2016?
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@ Joe
“Boko Haram is an extension of ISIS”.
How so? What source? Where is the verification? The purported say so from an employee working for the Jamestown Institute, a seriously heavily US propaganda outfit?
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@Joe
Boko Haram is actually an independent, homegrown movement centered in Nigeria. They started out as a non-violent protest group working against government corruption, poverty and joblessness in Northern Nigeria. The Nigerian government crushed the initial group.
The survivors were radicalized. They developed more extreme positions and sharpened their rhetoric. The leader was assasinated by the Nigerian government, who also imprisoned some of the followers. The survivors, at that point, decided to arm themselves and employ terror tactics to achieve their goal of a Muslim state with no Western influence.
Boko Haram has allied itself with ISIS and Al Quaida because they share some common goals and have some common enemies, but they run their own show.
They are no threat to Americans or Europeans who clutch their pearls and shriek endlessly about the horrors of Boko Haram. They are targeting their violence against Northern Nigerians. The hardest thing to bear is how they are butchering fellow Nigerian Muslims.
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@taotesan
@Afrofem
My comment wasn’t about Boko Haram hurting pearl clutchers in America and Europe. You may argue that they are separate and distinct groups but there has been a very public pledge by Boko Haram to ISIS. A pledge that ISIS accepted.
As the professor stated in the below article: “There is an ideological connection and there’s official allegiance displayed between the two organizations. But we haven’t actually seen any smoking gun connection, so to speak, in an operational sense, between the two groups.”
The smoking gun connection in operations is irrelevant. The official allegiance
is what is matters. An organization aligned with and accepted by ISIS, the self proclaimed global caliphate, wantonly kills Blacks in Africa. Do they matter less than Blacks in America?
Is anyone arguing that Boko Haram did not pledge it’s support to ISIS and that ISIS accepted the pledge of Boko Haram? You want to argue that they aren’t that connected in a daily, operational sense, then that’s fine. But ISIS is claiming a global caliphate and Boko Haram wanted in and was accepted.
Also, I did quick search and couldn’t find anything about Boko Haram pledging support to Al Qaeda. If it’s there, then please share a link.
Abagond wrote this post out of a justified anger toward police treatment of people of color in the US. Maybe I missed the tongue in cheek part of the post or the nod to sarcasm, but comparing the American police unfavorably to ISIS is a huge stretch.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201511022473.html
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@Joe
Boko Haram’s (BH) “allegiance to ISIS” is that of one group forming a network with another group with similar aims and methods. It is not binding and formal like the confederation of states or provinces in a modern nation. Their association is a highly decentralized network with each organization running their own show. They raise funds, carry out self-directed violent campaigns and handle their own media outreach. However, they do train together, share tactics, information and Wahhabist/Salafist strains of Sunni Islam.
Very likely what BH wanted when it “pledged allegiance to ISIS” was a share of the river of cash all global Sunni extremist groups get to dip their gourds in to fund their activities. Donors in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states have been pouring massive amounts of money into the hands of the very same people their governments are nominally fighting against. According to an article penned by Erin Banco of International Business Times (IBT):
http://www.ibtimes.com/give-one-hand-take-other-why-us-its-gulf-allies-are-failing-fight-against-isis-2214272
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Two articles that mention the links between BH and Al-Qaida include:
abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/leader-breakaway-boko-haram-faction-arrested-nigeria-38138368
https://www.naij.com/52070.html
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To me, the question about whether the lives of Nigerians matter more or less than the lives of Black people in America is a major deflection in the vein of the dismissive All Lives Matter campaign. White Supremacists in America use those talking points as a way to shut down the very real concerns of the Black community about police
lynchingkillings. It is an effort to channel the conversation away from the thuggery of armed American civil servants who are supported by public funds. The question poses a false choice between the relative worth of the lives of unarmed civilians in Nigeria and the lives of unarmed African American civilians.From my perspective, it is not hard to see the parallels between two terrorized populations that face armed groups who are similarly:
✸Lethal
✸Sociopathic
✸Unaccountable
✸Unpunished
What seems clear to me is that neither the lives Nigerians nor the lives of Black people in America matter much to people outside of their communities.
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