
Jamaican schoolgirls, not American ones, but they make up for it on cuteness and a picture width of 450.
Disclaimer: This post is half serious, half parody:
Black Mental Age (BMA) measures human intelligence as compared to black people in America. A person with a BMA of 12, for example, understands the world as well as the average black 12-year-old in America.
It is an idea of mine to get at a difference between black and white commenters on this blog.
For example:
- I used to think that everyone over 30 understood that America is no meritocracy, that it is profoundly screwed up. Yet white commenters on this very blog, grown men in their 40s and 50s even, will write in perfect university-level English about how fair and wonderful American society is! Like they are idiot savant 11-year-olds.
- Black commenters, even as young as 16, have little trouble understanding my posts while white men, even those over 40, often have serious trouble understanding them. Like there is something wrong with those government tests where whites get such high reading scores.
And yet some of the very same low-BMA whites will talk about how blacks lack intelligence!
Utterly amazing.
IQ: How whites measure intelligence. The trouble is, they write the tests and yet believe shockingly low-BMA stuff like this:
- You can trust the police.
- You can trust the news.
- You can trust crime statistics.
- You can trust history books.
- You can trust IQ tests.
- You can trust employers.
- You can trust big business.
- You can trust the accounts of white muderers, especially policemen.
- Racism is pretty much dead.
- It is possible for 40 million people to imagine the same thing at the same time.
- American society is more or less fair and just.
- People are poor mainly because they are unwilling to work hard and better themselves.
- Most poor people are black and most black people are poor.
- Television presents a more or less true picture of black people.
- Whites do not and did not benefit from slavery.
- Whites are completely unaffected by their violent, skinhead past.
- People overseas hate America for no good reason.
- People say bad things about America or whites only out of hatred.
- White Americans are the good guys of history.
In my experience most White Americans have a BMA between 10 and 14. I doubt I am imagining that since black intelligence as measured by the white tests drops after age 14 – what you would expect from tests designed by those with such limited intelligence.
Why does white mental development stop at such an early age?
Possible causes:
- Genes: Neanderthal genes limit their intelligence.
- Unchallenging environment: Society is set up to favour them so they have no need to progress beyond a BMA of 14. You know, like how some say the easy living of the tropics limits black intelligence. Like that.
- Social pathologies: Maybe whites do in fact get beyond 14 like everyone else, but their position in society and self-image requires them to act like they do not understand certain simple things, making them into pathological liars.
– Abagond, 2012.
See also:
Abagond
Or…..maybe it’s all an act.
Whites swear by the “Morally Good” puritanical belief that God gave them. Never mind all the facts that prove they are the exact opposite…That’s what black statistics are for!
If they began to chip away the wall of lies, a mental collapse will be inevitable.
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Agreed.
Oh, and I like that BMA concept too.
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Condoleezza Rice:
What do you suppose her BMA might be?
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@ Randy
She also understands that because of racism she has to be twice as good as whites before whites will begin to see her as merely equal.
I think her BMA is pretty high. She grew up in Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 1960s and she is no fool.
More debatable are people like Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas and John McWhorter. It depends on whether you see them as ideological whores.
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I would disagree with one sarcastic point:
“It is possible for 40 million people to imagine the same thing at the same time.”
This is something I often wonder about. We can say that we are not making up our experiences, but on the other hand, if white Americans have delusional perceptions, then that means there are over a hundred million people imagining the same thing (their flawed perceptions of meritocracy, fairness and benevolence in American society).
This is something I often wonder about. My opinions have changed so much since I was a child, and I really see racism more clearly and how it’s affected me and how it shapes the world. In a way, it’s fascinating because it has the power to just totally skew perspectives to such a degree. And on the other hand, I find it disconcerting that two groups of people can be so passionate about what they believe/experience and yet they’re completely different.
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@ Mamzer HaKodesh
Your perception is your reality.
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@Randy
Rice: “You never cede control of your own ability to be successful to something called racism.
Simply put, her statement shows that black people must not let racism keep them down or let racism control what they can or cannot achieve.
Abagond is right, she is very aware of the existence and power of racism in the world. The world is not fair or very just, especially to people of colour. Racist white Americans and other low BMA individuals are beyond naive to believe low BMA stuff.
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@ Mamzer
I have thought about that too. I think in that particular case, common sense clearly favours the black perception as being the true one, more or less, and the white one as the delusion.
But more generally one of the points I am trying to make in the post is how whites use themselves as the measure of all things, which is hardly objective.
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So, to have a Higher intelligence according to this article, only trust in a half-black Fraud of a president who can CHANGE everything to SAVE everybody? Yeah, sure.
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@ Stevor
And it begins….
@ Abagond
Do you ever wonder where these people come from???
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@Stevor
only trust in a half-black Fraud of a president who can CHANGE everything to SAVE everybody?
What is most bothersome to you here – the fact that he is ‘half black’ or that you deem him to be a fraud OR is he a fraud by nature of his dna?
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i’m just responding to what white folks are supposed to believe in, everything the government tells you, whereas the black folk “know better” and ought to be happy now with a “black” president who is really only half black and denies his “white half” who ALSO is a total FRAUD. I object to pretty much ALL about obama, though I’d choose a green person if he were HONEST and didn’t want to Destroy the Constitution!
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“these people”? Which ones are you referring to? Lots of people were mentioned.
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it was making fun of how whites perceive things and how blacks are wrong for not perceiving the same. I point out that it’s ridiculous to think that now that things have “changed” with obama, a FRAUD since birth in almost every respect
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it was making fun of how whites perceive things and how blacks are wrong for not perceiving the same. I point out that it’s ridiculous to think that now that things have “changed” with obama, a FRAUD since birth in almost every respect
Did you read this Disclaimer: This post is half serious, half parody:
I’m not sure what point you are trying to make with this comment – All in all, I dont think Obama being president, being half black, being half white, has anything to do with the topic at hand.
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Great post. I think the ‘delusional’ mental state that American whites operate under, is the key which allows them to maintain the status quo. If they were to deal in ‘reality’, game over. It’s willful delusion. Willful ignorance. This willful delusion, is crucial in white identity. If they actually acknowledged these things, then, they would be required to do something about them;thing is, I believe they do know, but it’s much more beneficial for them to pretend to remain in the dark/ignorant and racist.
I’m curious though as to how many whites ‘truly’ believe some of the things presented, falsely, about black Americans. Their mental intelligence is dependent on their white identity.
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Actually, #1 is found to be true by many black researchers of life outside the USA.
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How did Obama become a part of this interesting debate?
And , Stevor….great way to derail!
I’m feeling less and less guilty about my assertions on White AmeriKlan.
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@ Stevor…this is for you….
http://diaryofanegress.com/2012/05/08/how-to-be-white-in-ameriklan/
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I definitely agree with this BMA concept.
However I wonder how Obama got in the conversation…….wait Stevor mentioned him. Honestly I don’t care for Obama but I wouldn’t call him a fraud. What makes Obama a fraud?
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I guess Obama is a ‘fraud’ by stevor’s definition cos he’s neither one or the other therefore, you cant determine what ‘side’ he is going to be more proactive and supportive of.
Perhaps stevor will finally enlighten us and RELATE IT TO THE TOPIC AT HAND…
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@Demerera
lol. I agree. In Stevor’s opinion, ”they” are the Black people who voted for Barack Obama. I am only 16 and too young to vote. I did want Obama at one point but I don’t think he is doing the best job. He isn’t the best president. But I don’t think he is a fraud. Personally I believe Stevor was mocking Abagond’s article on BMA by saying
”So, to have a Higher intelligence according to this article, only trust in a half-black Fraud of a president who can CHANGE everything to SAVE everybody”.
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@Adeen
I am only 16 and too young to vote
There was a time when I believed voting could change the world and I am still pleased that now most of the world over everyone has the right to put their mark on the ballot paper.
Realistically though, I find that ‘most’ politicians have grown up in a more priviledged upbringing and as a result, though they all start of with certain ideals, the reality is that they are not in touch with the ‘common’ man. They dont ‘get’ the daily struggles and toils that mere mortals have to go through. They say they do, and, they may understand on some basic human level that it is not right but they are often at a loss as to how to address the situations.
Anyway, any guesses as to what stevor’s mental age is and whether he will ‘open his mind’ some to improve on this score? 😉
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@Demerera
I’m guessing age 2.85yrs old same age as my youngest son. He seems to be having a temper tantrum like him with his comments here, LOL.
@Abagond
lovely commentary as usual 🙂
I think their livelihood depends on it. *The Matrix-reference* They are all asleep in the little pods) until they take the red pill, like Neo.
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Stevor’s derailment about Obama is off topic.
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1.You can trust the police.
This one always blows my mind, people don’t trust the government but they will trust the goverments soldiers and legal enforcers?
2.You can trust the news.
Almost everybody knows the media alters things to bring in fewers but they still just trust whatever they are told.
4.You can trust history books.
You can’t trust the goverment but you can trust what they want to teach you?
6.You can trust employers.
Business is corrupt, corporations are full of a-holes but you can still trust your workplace.
7.You can trust big business.
Even though they are all corrupt and driven by the desire for money and greed, yep.
9.Racism is pretty much dead.
Well; if its not, even if what they believe is true they still would have to acknowledge that black people have a point inregards to society being against them etc….
10.It is possible for 40 million people to imagine the same thing at the same time.
Well; yeah as pointed out this post assumes an even greater amount on individuals also imagines things.
12.People are poor mainly because they are unwilling to work hard and better themselves.
Yeah; its surprising the bigotry against the poor, like with testing for drugs on welfare people and finding out they don’t use them at a higher rate than anybody else and thus making it a waste of time and money. But its still popping up elsewhere.
13.Most poor people are black and most black people are poor.
Shows people’s stupidity here, even a basic idea of statistics and population would tell this isn’t true.
17.People overseas hate America for no good reason.
18.People say bad things about America or whites only out of hatred.
19.White Americans are the good guys of history.
Yeah; these three really show the ignorance, close mindedness and almost purposeful stupidity of people. That and laziness, in this day and age of the internets and libraries, how hard is it really to look up some damn information?
But no; intelligence is bad, nerds and scientists are bad and being informed is wrong the only book learnin’ you need is the bible!
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@V-4
I agree with you 100%. Ignorance is not good. Yet there is many ignorant people in the world.
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Don’t bother defending your arguments. Just write another “parody” claiming anyone who disagrees with you has a low “BMA”. 🙄
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These criticisms of the white world would carry a little weight if only there were a technically advanced, educated, prosperous, democratic, capitalistic black nation somewhere in the world to prove that blacks are capable of building a modern society. Given its oil welath, Nigeria should be the Norway of Africa, able to afford to educate its citizens and finance a modern society. But, as we know, Nigeria is a cesspool.
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“These criticisms of the white world would carry a little weight if only there were a technically advanced, educated, prosperous, democratic, capitalistic black nation somewhere in the world to prove that blacks are capable of building a modern society. Given its oil welath, Nigeria should be the Norway of Africa, able to afford to educate its citizens and finance a modern society. But, as we know, Nigeria is a cesspool.”
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This comment reads like it qualifies for the Broken Record Department.
And by the way, this post is about America, not Africa.
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She also understands that because of racism she has to be twice as good as whites before whites will begin to see her as merely equal.
I think her BMA is pretty high. She grew up in Birmingham, Alabama in the 1950s and 1960s and she is no fool.
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Think about that Abagond –
In reality she was at least 18X as smart/good as that bumbling buffoon of a boss (W Bush) she worked for.
You better believe racism will be dead and no more if that day should come when a black man as stupid as W can get elected TWICE as POTUS.
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@ bernie
The Broken Africa stereotype is off topic here. Anyone who wants to talk about it further can go here:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/the-broken-africa-stereotype/
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Bush, as dumb as he was/is made the Perfect PUPPET. It was also handy to have Cheney there to be pulling his strings all the time.
THAT is what the Globalist Elites DO. They put in puppet. THEIR next puppet was obama and if he doesn’t do their agenda, their next puppet will be romney.
It’s easy to find some politician who would love to PRETEND to play “president” even though they KNOW they’ll just be a puppet.
Until the sheeple REALIZE that the Elite have been pulling the strings for decades and the strings are attached to puppets like obama and romney, we’ll continue to be RULED and treated as peasants/slaves/serfs.
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Stevor is banned for continuing to rant way off topic.
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…And the BMA is part of the race realist movement to prove that blacks are not as good at whites at intelligence.
I can honestly say that those who trust any test that tells them how inferior a group of people are compared to the “mighty white man” is seriously deluded.
bernie,
Nice try.
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@duck
I find it funny that you’re always here telling abagond he is wrong for having an opinion. Yet, you want us to adhere to your opinion.
Wait, let me guess….you are white.
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Well, Abagond is wrong because he apparently thinks his opinions represent the truth, that there are right answers to questions like: “Is society generally fair and just?”. Nobody is right about such subjective issues.
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Its amazing that white people are putting so much emotional investment in IQ tests and statistics
Duckgoofs, you seem like such a statistics fan, surly , you must understand that statistics can be manipulated to suit any ones argument. Its not like statistics arnt relevant at all, but, they are so manipulable. As a matter of fact, you are just playing games with us sometimes to shift the argument in your favor, using your knowledge of statistics
And, since you put a lot of weight about official statistics and scientific fact, what is your opinion on the new science discoveries that prove the intuitive brain is really controling our actions before our intellectual logic brain can act? That totaly makes the IQ tests that white race realists tout, an ancient relic going the way of the video cassette recorder
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@eco
And I suppose your opinions are any more closer to the truth?
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BR
I’m not a psychologist but I think the intuitive brain acts first and the intellectual / logical brain competes with it after the fact. People are neither totally one nor the other. But I suspect those with lower intelligence are weighted more towards the former and those with higher intelligence towards the latter.
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@ brothawolf
I agree with that statement. I stopped putting faith in test a long time ago when I realized that some people just don’t do well on test. I know a lot of people that don’t and it does not mean they do not know the material, but rather they are nervous or other factors effect their testing ability. I also never trust anything that has to be sent out and you have to wait to get results back.
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@ eco
You have to ask yourself…what is the truth though? Do you really want to convince yourself that blacks iQs are as low as it is claimed to be? Its understandable that you would feel that way in a society that has constantly brainwashed you into believing that, blacks are less intelligent than whites. To you want Abagond says is not real, but what makes your sources more real? If you can see the bias in what he says, then can you not see the bias in your own sources.
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@duck
So, what are you saying in regards to this post?
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Some white ppl just play dumb bc it makes them feel better…
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@Sharina
I think it’s humorous that whites who proclaim they are superior in intelligence will come off looking juvenile. Some may by childish enough to use this post as part of the race realist movement. (This is what I meant to include in my original comment, but I didn’t realize it until now.)
It’s amazing that some whites would rather rely on numbers and IQ. tests to tell them all they WANT to HEAR about a certain group (black people) whether they are fixed or made up, than to simply talk and learn to the very people themselves. Then again, that may be part of their fear and hatred of blacks. Since they don’t see them as fully human or significant enough to care, it would make sense that they would ignore them. And because of their hatred for blacks, especially those that talk about whites from their experience, it’s reasonable to explain why they come to blogs like this. It’s just cyberbullying in the form of hate.
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The cynic,
I just thought about that. Some of the white commenters who follow the low-level thinking patterns may be just putting on a show to make themselves seem naive. They may actually be frontin’ and are actually getting a kick out of our reactions. At the core of it all, they really don’t care if what they say is offensive. They are not as clueless as they seem. And, they do know that what is said here and beyond that contradicts their views are correct.
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However, there are some who do believe that all it takes are statistics, news reports and I.Q. tests are reliable forms of information regarding black people. They think this is intelligent, and certain people try to come off as intellectuals.
Ironically, but predictably, they don’t see black people as the best source of information about black people. That right there proves that they are engorged with the false sense of white supremacy.
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Genes: Neanderthal genes limit their intelligence
I have a really sick sense of humor. This sentence had me dying laughing.
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Even with my level of naivety, there’s no way in hell I believe anything in that list. Not really. People actually believe every one of these points with undying conviction??? Wow.
I mean, most of these points can easily be countered with a bit of Googling, statistical data, and a Netflix subscription to watch a few documentaries…
– Esther
http://roseywinterrose.blogspot.com
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Esther,
What’s worse is that some people want everyone else to believe it too.
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@Brothawolf
There are white commenters who get a kick out of seeing a reaction from us.. they’re called trolls. However, I’m talking about denial. Deep down inside they now the truth, but lying to themselves makes them feel better about their white identity.
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“It is possible for 40 million people to imagine the same thing at the same time.”
Yes. And more. It’s called “religion”.
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(All kids are cute. My sister-in-law says they have to be or we’d strangle them!)
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@ Eco,
If you come here thinking what YOU believe is the truth, what makes your version somehow better than someone else’s? Is it because it fits your prejudices, and therefore you are more invested in having that “truth” be accepted?
@ The Cynic,
Yeah that sounds about right.
@ Joshua,
Really? Religion? I don’t think that people are “imagining” anything and it’s sort of rather snide to imply that they would just because they believe in something you don’t.
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@ Ace Is it because it fits your prejudices, and therefore you are more invested in having that “truth” be accepted?
That’s basically one of the arguments I’ve been making and you’ve all rejected it. But now you’re going to use that same argument against someone else? Pathetic.
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@TheCynic
I know that as well.
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@duck
If the shoe fits, wear it. Besides, the same argument can be applied to you as well.
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@Ace
Believe in something with no evidence that I don’t, yes. Do you believe in Santa Claus?
The point is that the number of people who claim something isn’t any indicator of its validity.
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@ Joshua,
No, but since people are so quick to dismiss ACTUAL things people have experienced as “imagined” or “questionable”.
It seems like an odd thing to compare it to, since religious beliefs are often based on faith and personal spirituality, and racism was a policy and is ingrained in enough of society’s mores and values to have some basis of reality.
“The point is that the number of people who claim something isn’t any indicator of its validity.”
However, if 40 million people are claiming something which has had real life, tangible effects, can’t that prove it’s validity?
@ Duck,
No you haven’t, despite what your selective memory says. No one rejected that argument, they rejected the fact that you’re only capable of making that argument when you don’t like what’s being said. Your fine with using evidence that only fits your biases when it caters to you. Big difference there.
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@Ace
Actually quite a few religious people talk about touching the spirit of god, miracles etc…..seeing jesus on toast, praying to find your keys whatever.
In the south at least; religion’s a lot closer the old school reality and not just a metaphore for life or something.
Kind of people who write down 15 pages on their conversations with God.
Though the interesting thing about religion is; when it was strongest so too was racism.
Inregards to 40 million people and real life effects, yeah but what about the 100 million arguing against that and proposing different reasons for why it could be?
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We do not know if the Neanderthal genes that whites have do in fact limit intelligence, but the people whose reasoning I am mocking would never let us hear the end of it if it was blacks and not whites who had Neanderthal genes.
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If anyone came up with an intelligence test where blacks did better, no white person would trust it. Yet when it is the other way round it becomes PROOF that blacks are expected to trust. How odd.
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Brothawolf
Trying to reduce human worth to a number is itself an act of dehumanization, the mathematical equivalent of the n-word. So it makes sense that the very same people would not take what black people say seriously.
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We are not talking about 40 million people BELIEVING something. We are talking about 40 million people with a common real-world EXPERIENCE. Huge difference. It is also an experience which, by definition, 200 million others would never experience.
In addition, to suppose that these 40 million people are imagining things, you would have to FURTHER suppose:
Which goes against common sense.
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@brothawolf
“And I suppose your opinions are any more closer to the truth?”
There is no truth they could be close to. There are a lot of general worldview questions that do not have right answers. Some answers can be wrong (illogical, inconsistent, etc.), but it’s impossible to determine which of the valid ones is more true.
@Sharina
“You have to ask yourself…what is the truth though?”
We should start with basic questions: “What is the truth? What conditions have to be met for it to exist?”
“Do you really want to convince yourself that blacks iQs are as low as it is claimed to be?”
You mean like, around 70-80? Nah.
Claiming black people have such low IQ scores is what I called a “wrong answer” earlier in this comment. There is simply not enough science in those claims.
The general problem: “are blacks and whites equally intelligent?”, doesn’t look solvable to me. I think it doesn’t have a right answer.
“To you want Abagond says is not real, but what makes your sources more real? If you can see the bias in what he says, then can you not see the bias in your own sources.”
I can see it. That’s why I think some problems are not solvable, do not have right answers – only different opinions, perspectives. In some cases none of the valid opinions are closer to the truth.
@Ace
“If you come here thinking what YOU believe is the truth, what makes your version somehow better than someone else’s? Is it because it fits your prejudices, and therefore you are more invested in having that “truth” be accepted?”
I think I’ve already answered your first question and the second one applies to Abagond and a few other commenters, not me.
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duckgoof sais “But I suspect those with lower intelligence are weighted more towards the former and those with higher intelligence towards the latter”
You suspect ? Well, there you go, you suspect way too much.And, it reveals where you are leaning ( not acusing you of anything, but, showing you have some bias). I dont trust your “suspect”.
And, like I said, these new scientific discoveries prove, they dont suspect, that the old IQ tests are ancient relics
cmon , Duck, you are just jiving us
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See, those new scientific discoveries mean to me, that the whole concept of intelligence has to be revamped
There have to be new tests to determine real intelligence
I can see that years down the line, human beings are going to be plugged way more into their intuition . They are going to be working on ways to get in touch with their intuition and how to develope it so they can negociete their way through life, instead of just pragmatic logic based ways to go about life.
The first rule of intelligence i hope is discoverd is that bad spelling does not show low intelligence………(lol)
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“In addition, to suppose that these 40 million people are imagining things, you would have to FURTHER suppose:
“16. Whites are completely unaffected by their violent, skinhead past.””
Of course those with a violent skinhead past are affected by it. Skinheads are a pretty tiny minority of mentally disturbed “people” though.
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You can trust the police – not out of eyesight.
You can trust the news – depends on source.
You can trust crime statistics – depends on source.
You can trust history books – depends on source.
You can trust IQ tests – no, intelligence is not something that can be measured by a test.
You can trust employers – as far as you can throw them.
You can trust big business – even less.
You can trust the accounts of white muderers, especially policemen – no.
Racism is pretty much dead – no.
It is possible for 40 million people to imagine the same thing at the same time – yes, it is possible.
American society is more or less fair and just – no.
People are poor mainly because they are unwilling to work hard and better themselves – no.
Most poor people are black and most black people are poor – no.
Television presents a more or less true picture of black people – no, not of anyone.
Whites do not and did not benefit from slavery – some do and did.
Whites are completely unaffected by their violent, skinhead past – no, if they have one.
People overseas hate America for no good reason – no.
People say bad things about America or whites only out of hatred – no.
White Americans are the good guys of history – there are good guys?
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@Abagond
I was aware that statement was a parody before I pushed the ‘post comment’ button. I just think mocking ignorance is funny.
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Abagond:
“Denial” is the foundation of whiteness, as it relates to how whites view their status in the world. It all goes back to Ass-U-Me black people…Logic 101. Whites ignore the truth because they wrongly assume that the average black person they come across is not as educated and informed as those of us on this blog. As black people, we have to remember that white folk are paranoid in the worst way. They know that they’ve been living a lie, as it relates to white supremacy…white skin is best/wrong…white intellect is superior/wrong…whitewomen are the finest/wrong…whites are the builders of civilization/wrong. If we allow them to get away with thinking they’re all that, Why would they alter their thinking? We have blame with respect to this issue as well, because, we give white folks power and influence they don’t have. I don’t partake in that foolishness, and never will.
Tyrone
MindScape
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@ Abagond
“If anyone came up with an intelligence test where blacks did better, no white person would trust it. Yet when it is the other way round it becomes PROOF that blacks are expected to trust. How odd.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Intelligence_Test_of_Cultural_Homogeneity
@ Tyrone
“Whites ignore the truth because they wrongly assume that the average black person they come across is not as educated and informed as those of us on this blog.”
I have seen this time, and time again. If a Black person does engage in intelligent discourse with people who think like that, they do some pretty goofy stuff.
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you take it there, don’t you?
a new fan.
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BR You suspect ? Well, there you go, you suspect way too much.
I was just using my “intuitive intelligence”. You know, the part of the brain that you say is more important than logic. haha
But seriously, it’s a reasonable hypothesis on my part. For example, many scientific breakthroughs have an element of intuition. Why, then, were they made by people with IQ’s of 150 rather than those with IQ’s of 75? Its because the smarter one is the better one understands. And the better one understands the more likely their intuition is to be correct. After all, if one isn’t smart enough to know wtf is going on then their intution isn’t likely to be very good now is it?
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@duckduckgoofs
..O.o…That is very interesting although I can say that it is also agreeable to say that for many scientific breakthroughs intuition was the root cause of making the progress. The problem with logic is that it is stuck with the “here and now”. You can’t figure out what you have never seen or experienced. But with intuition there is no physical limitation. It is more spiritual or natural and doesn’t require reasoning. I would have to say both logic and intuition are great to have but neither is necessarily better than the other (not implying that is what you meant). The Intuitionist by Colson Whitehead, although fiction is a very nice book to read when seeing how logic and intuition can interact.
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Thomas Edison said:
Edison did poorly at school and probably would have done just as poorly on any IQ test.
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From the link anonmymous provided:
Which was pretty much the point of this post.
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Edison did poorly at school and probably would have done just as poorly on any IQ test.
Edison only attended school for 3 months and never took an IQ test.
Beverly Daniel Tatum writes that dominant cultures often set the parameters by which minority cultures will be judged.
Does this mean you’re allowing discussion of “broken record topics” on this thread? You know I’m chomping at the bit! 🙂
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“I was just using my “intuitive intelligence”. You know, the part of the brain that you say is more important than logic. haha”
Very good, Duckgoofs , I actualy apreciete that…
And, I defer to the wonderful answers by Abagond and Deedee
I also want to refer you Dr Marimba Ani , who is saying that in an “African ” concept, those cultures have deep roots in feeling things and getting in touch with their intuition. There are various cultures in certain tribes , especialy those that were the ancestors of the slaves brought from Africa to America, that have at their core, the act of turning off their thinking brain and getting in touch with their intuition and feelings.I suggest to you that people who have at the center of their culture, intuition as the goal, they are going to be more in touch with that as far as any way to quantivly deciphor that.
I also suggest to you, that there will have to be all new tests made and that it will be a balance of both logic and intuition
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I think all 3 of the suggested causes apply.
#1 is concentrated in people of European descent
#2 is true across all human cultures – there is no need to progress mentally once you realize how society is set up in your favor
#3 is also true across human cultures, but is particularly found in those individuals who have had more direct contact with the minority cultures, esp. those who marry or interbreed with them.
BTW, I took the Black intelligence test and got over 80% even though I am not black. Maybe it helps to grow up in areas surrounded by black neighborhoods.
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@ Abagond
To the people who claim these things, its not just a matter of “belief” its a matter of experience, they have “touched” the spirit of the Lord and literally felt his presence.
They have experienced “miracles”.
And the 100 million other people have experienced something, they’ve “experienced” that the 40 million other has it just fine and is equally comparable to them in society.
To put it this way; to assume that this specific incident of 40 million people couldn’t imagine something because the number is too great is to assume the opposition to their idea is imagining things to the reverse despite having even greater numbers and having interacted with them and society in general.
Are the 40 million wrong? Probably not but the idea that 40 million people couldn’t imagine something was in and of itself not altogether true.
So I took that Black IQ test got a “4” on it.
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153 iq, 9 on the bitch100 test
-tc
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Nice picture Abagond!
Cute little sweeties. Everyone of them, are so damn cute and beautiful!
I wish them and every single child in the world, love, p eace, sense of humanity, strenght, integrity, etc because they’re our future.
And i also wish that every single child in the world born into a racist family, (because that’s where it starts first) rebuke it’s family’s racism in any form and cultivate love, sense of humanity, integrity etc.
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@ daris truth
It is obvious from your grammar that you are not very educated. I tell you what …go educate yourself on what blacks have invented and how whites claimed it as their own. Start with Thomas Edison and his lawsuit for stealing the idea from Granville (a black man).
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Personally I think Black people don’t get it. Claiming something is different from proving it.
When Black people start developing/inventing within their own community/nations, then they will be better off.
There isn’t one single inventions which is current which comes from a Black country/nation.
And how many of these inventions were actual inventions, and not just a simple implementation on something which as already there.
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I suggest you take your small mind and figure it out. All of what I said can be proven, but do you care. Your small mind does not let You see past the coat tails of the white inventors you like to ride on.
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Speaking of which, they have proven that autism spectrum disorders are actually inherited. They also found that people with these disorders tend to have children together.
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