For those who have not yet seen this post from Alienated Conclusions that imagines how black women would be seen in a black supremacist society, here is a bit of it:
“Beauty tar potion” would become globally popular to get the “black look.” “Dove” would be replaced with a black soap called “Raven” to help exfoliate the skin and bring out subtle hints of melanin.
White female features would be declared violent. Their “jagged” thin lips, “knife sharp” noses, and “harsh” jaw lines would be nature’s way of expressing why men have a natural preference for the soft features of black women. Soft lips, soft cheekbones, and soft, round noses would be proof of natural femininity. Full, pink lips and large, dark eyes would become associated with virginal black girls whose purity must not be compromised. Black female features would thus be said to represent youth.
Straight, blond hair would be considered “wild and unruly” because when the wind blew, it did not stay in place. Women with naturally straight hair would hide their “unruly” and “wild” stick-straight hair in public. The desire for “lightweight hair” that defied gravity would permanently end the use of blow dryers. Keeping one’s natural blond hair wild and straight would become indicative of a political statement.
The anti-aging properties of black female skin combined with soft, curvy bodies would be proof of the overall reproductive health of black women. Scientists would argue that black women were naturally preferred as long term mates and mothers because they were “healthier.” Men’s attraction to women is based on overall health and fertility, after all.
Read the whole thing at Alienated Conclusions.
See also:
Imagine if a white first lady of a majority black country had to get her hair chemically treated to that it had a more afro-like appearance, or get dreadlocks or braids and of course dye it black if she has light hair. Michelle Obama cannot wear her hair in a natural god-given manner. It would scare the s*** out of white folks to have “their” country represented that way, so she is forced to straighten it. There was a big flap when the Obama daughters had their hair in twists during their Paris trip last year. Some white commentators said that such a hairstyle is “unfitting” for presidential daughters. Most blacks would think the hair style is adorable. Yet it makes whites nervous.
This is all absolutely invisible to whites of course.
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White people aren’t nervous og blacks because of their hair. Whites are afraid because of the facts: There are an estimated 1.5 million Black men in prison and another 3.5 million on probation. Black males make up more than 70 percent of the total prison population, even though they make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population.
Although blacks are 12% of the population in reality it is just 2% of the blacks that commit 50% of the murders and a greater percentage of other crimes. Consider: black females – 6%. Blacks from zero yrs. to 12 yrs. and black males from 50-100 years commit an infinitesimal percentage of the crimes. Therefore we are left with two percent. If we eliminate crimes committed by this two percent from the U.S. statistics our country compares very favorably with all Western countries. Fact — blacks kill 7 times more than whites kill. Fact — blacks kill whites 20 times more than whites kill blacks. Fact — blacks mug or commit group crime against whites 50 times more than whites commit against blacks. Fact — blacks rape white women 2000 (yes 2000) times more than whites rape black women.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics 2004 report (released May 2006), blacks commit 54 percent of the homicides in America even though they constitute only 12 percent of the population.
An individual black male is seven times more likely to commit murder than an individual white male. It so happens that black felons commit 43 percent of aggravated assaults, 66 percent of armed robberies, 27 percent of rapes and 85 percent of interracial crimes of violence, mainly against whites (this last figure from a Justice Department report 2003).
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Absolutely, huh?
Well hell, I must have x-ray eyes then.
It was first page news down here in Brazil.
But don’t forget this one:
The first family would be considered cold and inconsequent for NOT inviting the first lady’s mother to live with them for a few months while the girls settle in to what’s obviously going to be a very strange existence.
The first lady would have to put in an emergency call to her estranged mother living in a retirement home in Florida and beg her to come to Washington to help put a positive spin on things.
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Oh man. Here we go again. Another “black statistic” dropper.
You sure travelled a long way just to come here and tell us po dumb black folk how messed up we are … Save it Pedlyde, we have seen this same mess cut and pasted here time and time again. Get some original thoughts and then come back and apply them to the actual original post.
that is all….
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Pedlyde said:
“Fact — blacks rape white women 2000 (yes 2000) times more than whites rape black women.”
This is the sixth time that very sentence has been repeated on this blog, word for word. Please back it up.
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Pedlyde:
You left out Robert Mugabe.
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Pedlyde, what do crime statistics have to do with the fear whites would have if Michelle Obama were to wear her hair in a style natural to black women’s hair texture? Nobody is saying people fear the Obama’s as a crime threat, duh, we’re talking about BLACK WOMEN in this thread.
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Pedlyde said:
“Fact — blacks rape white women 2000 (yes 2000) times more than whites rape black women.”
This very sentence was repeated, word for word, five other times on this blog:
Nicole on 29 Oct 2008 in “Race in New York”:
Nicole on 26 Feb 2009 in “Why so few white men marry black women”:
Nicole on 01 Jun 2009 in “Stuff White Men Think”:
Josh on 26 Jun 20098 in “Why so few white men marry black women, part II”:
Igor on 29 Sep 2009 in “What this blog has taught me about white people”:
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I agree with the article. So true!
Well, in my eyes, black women do have beauty, but as a straight woman, my vote doesn’t really count.
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Abagond, this thing about blacks raping whites at an astronomical level has been a battle cry on white nationalists group forever now. They’ve been using it as a centerpiece of racial propaganda. I believe it Tim Wise amongst others debunked the propaganda, where they were tabulating data in such a way that made it look like black males had launched an all out war on white females.
What they leave out is that rape, overwhelmingly is an intra-racial act, and it is mostly acquaintance rape. Which is in stark contrast to the image of a black man in a parking lot at night dragging a white woman off to be raped. Where rape is interracial, yes it is more black on white than white on black, but that is due to the fact that 1) there is a higher incidence of black rape, regardless of the race of victime and 2) the largest demographic group is always going to get a higher number of rape victims because they are numerically the largest group. 3) Most white female victims of rape by a long shot were raped by white men.
The WNs found this statistic that said in one certain year there was not one incidence of a white man raping a black woman, but when you dug up how that number was compiled, they did it using a small sample survey and then extrapolated national figures using it. It was pretty shoddy. Common sense should tell anyone that of course some black women are raped by white men. Who can seriously believe the number is ZERO in a nation of 300 million people. So from there WNs said, “blacks are 1 gazillion billion million times more likely to rape white women than white men are to rape black women! Send them back to Africa before they rape your grandmother!”
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Abagond, this thing about blacks raping whites at an astronomical level has been a battle cry on white nationalists group forever now.
Inter-racial rape is one of America’s most enduring and ancient myths.
But a person would have to be an absolute loon to believe that one group is doing it to another to the tune of 2000 times more. That kind of ridiculous statement should call out foe instant skepticism. The fact that so many white people repeat it as gospel sadly confirms what gets said here, repeatedly, about white folks and racism.
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Interesting discussion on the politics of the Obama’s hair choices:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090709230738AAnxSPI
That this is even an issue in the 21st century is maddening. I think the poster named “nine” hit it right on the head. That white people have the need to see the Obama’s as simply white people who happen to have black skin. Wearing natural hair is a reminder that they are not white people with a tan. Speaking out against an abusive Boston police officer also reminds them of that. Obama is forced to avoid even discussing race issues because it reminds everyone that he may not only be black at the surface.
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This article does an excellent job of clarifying the FACT that ANTI-BW RACISM/HATE and WHITE FEMALE PRIVILEGE really exist in American culture.
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Not to make light of the message of this post, but I’m wondering what the weave products being sold in the beauty shops in that Universe would look like. How many would be selling darkening creams and pills under the counter? What lengths would white women go to for their children to have ‘good skin’ and ‘good hair’?
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@pedlyde…It is not that black men are more prone to crime; it is the fact that living in a racist society black men are more likely to be stopped by the police, whether they have a criminal record or not. Those are excuses/myths created in order to harass black people unnecessarily. There have been men throughout the years that have been falsely accused of crimes. They don’t get released till 20 or more years later. Why is it that alot of them are black men? Our justice system does not care about evidence or investigations when it comes to a black man. He’s guilty till proven innocent which isn’t the “democratic” thing to do.
I can attest to this personally, I went to a predominately white, wealthy college for two years. I never saw anyone do so many drugs or drink so much alcohol OUT IN THE OPEN then those rich, white kids. But when campus security decided to crack down on it they searched the black/hispanic frats first. Why is that?
White people don’t fit the myth so they don’t get pulled over in other words they don’t get caught!!! And when they do they get easier sentences….
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I agree: blacks in America are far more at the mercy of the police, the courts and the prisons than most white people.
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Like I mentioned in my last post white men are just least likely to be caught and when they are given easier sentences.
For how many centuries have white men raped black women. To this day, white men get easy sentences for raping all women. In order to justify their rape of black women they created the jezebel stereotype and the mammy stereotype to appease the white women who knew exactly what was going on. Not until the 1970’s was a white man ever placed on trial for the rape of a black women. We probably will never know the true number of black women that were violated, but I can bet you if we could ever tally that number up against black men who TRULY raped white women; that scale would not be in the white man’s favor.
Do you know how much sexual abuse goes on in the U.S. Military? A white women was gang raped by Halliburton workers while in Iraq and she is having to fight tooth and nail just to bring it to the military courts. I don’t know if all were white, but I think I can assume so because if they weren’t we (the public) would know and it would be on trial in a heartbeat.
Rape is an issue that many women of all races never get justice on, but black women get the least justice for the crimes done to them
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Not until the 1970’s was a white man ever placed on trial for the rape of a black women.
I’d like to see a source on that Snowpea, if you have one. That’s interesting.
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Can’t agree with that. If racism were the cause of the crime rate, we should’ve seen rates much higher under Jim Crow. And poverty rates for blacks were vastly higher then as well. But the fact is, my mom recalls a time in the town she grew up when her family could leave their doors unlocked. Those days are long gone. And I’m talking about a black neighborhood. I’m convinced that one of the main reasons the crime problem exists is because people are in denial that it’s even an issue in the first place.
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“Can’t agree with that. If racism were the cause of the crime rate, we should’ve seen rates much higher under Jim Crow.”
why is that? it would make more sense that when america was “desegregated,” that in order to deter the black population, cops and racist people would increase their effort to focus more on blacks people committing crime than whites. Have you eevr seen the movie american violet? It shows you a picture of a very biased system designed to make blacks look as if they committ more crime than whites. Trust me, I went ot a white prep school and white committ crime too. some of those people did drugs like it was nobody’s buisness, its not just a black thing trust me.
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I can attest to this personally, I went to a predominately white, wealthy college for two years. I never saw anyone do so many drugs or drink so much alcohol OUT IN THE OPEN then those rich, white kids. But when campus security decided to crack down on it they searched the black/hispanic frats first. Why is that?
Snowpea, same here. I’d never seen so much drugs and alcohol before I went to college with students who were supposed to be “the cream of the crop.” It’s like their idea of fun was to get passed out drunk or snort coke. A few I knew even brought alcohol to class on occasion. Imagine if that were a black person, drinking in class — oh man! They would’ve had that on the front page of the paper. Then they’d blame affirmative action for allowing these hooligans into such a prestigious school in the first place; you know they’re no good! Lol.
It’s interesting that some whites seem to be aware of the fact that their position lessens their chance of being suspected of/arrested for drug use. My SO used to hang around with these hardcore drug users and I told them “If you were black you’d never get away with all that… ” They all agreed completely.
On topic: White supremacy is so pervasive to me that the ideas presented in this post seem so, well… alien. Like something out of an Asimov novel.
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i think alot of the crime in the black community is related to drugs in some way, shape or form. I personally believe drugs were introduced into the black community by racist institutions in order to destroy the unity within the community and its pretty much worked. I also know the school systems is very segregated and biased, so people are not learning anything, they are not prepared to go into the world of learning, so its basically set up for them to turn to drug dealers and others people for the support they are not getting in the positive places they should be.
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I can attest to this personally, I went to a predominately white, wealthy college for two years. I never saw anyone do so many drugs or drink so much alcohol OUT IN THE OPEN then those rich, white kids. But when campus security decided to crack down on it they searched the black/hispanic frats first. Why is that?
see i didn’t even see this comment, but this is exactly what I was talking about, we’ve all seen this. I remember the white kids used to go out in the middle of the day and do drugs, it was NOT just the black kids. Black kids would never have gotten away with that. It’s not just a black thing, everyone does drugs in this society and that’s a shame, the system is just designed to crack down on certain types of drugs, the popular drug of choice which is used by mostly black drug dealers is the one they crack down on, so it looks like its more blacks doing the bad stuff, but in reality its very skewed.
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i wish that world would come true…all the races except black have had it too good…its our turn to be on top.
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I’m specifically talking about violence here. I realize white do drugs, and there’s been unfairness in sentencing. In fact I think we need major reform in the “war on drugs”.
Violent crime hurts blacks more than it is on whites. So the reason for putting it on the table should be self-interest more than anything since we are the most likely victims. I lived in L.A.(and still do) during the peak of the gang warfare in the late 80s/early 90s. Back when you could turn on the TV and hear about a new drive by shooting virtually every day. It was mostly blacks who were the victims. They weren’t targeting whites. Often the victims were people they never even intended to shoot, like kids playing on a front yard that got caught in the crossfire.
When whites bring up the crime rates in the inner city, we tend to circle the wagon and get defensive, but the issue should be addressed for our own sake. What whites think makes no difference to me one way or the other.
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I read this article a few weeks ago.
So let’s move away from all this crime talk derailment and go back to our regular scheduled topic.
i agree with you tulio on your post here about it is easier for white people to think of the Obamas as darker skinned white people and Malia obam’s hair in cute little twists caused a uproar because it such a scary BLACK non conformist thing. Because afro textured hair is so political that is why glamour magazine deemed afros and dreadlocks as “politcal hairstyles”
http://diversityinc.com/content/1757/article/2615/
it is seen as radical why do people think that in that cartoon drawing of Barack and Michelle where Barack drawn and a mulim terrorist and Michelle had an Afro
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It’s a gansta troll move! People! Get back on topic! You too Abagond! The original subject is worth exploring in depth. I have never considered this in my life! I tend to believe that if black folks ruled the world, then it would be a better place for you and for me, you and for me, yoooooou and foooorr meeeeeeee!!!
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Fair enough: I will delete any new comments on this thread that are not on the topic of the post.
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lol. I read an article like this a while ago. I think at surface level ALL races are equally as attractive as the next. I still find just as many white guys to be cute as black guys and Asian guys. Even though Asians are stereotyped in such a bad light (much like black women) I can see attractive people & many Asian men are. I judge other women’s beauty all the time too and I always see other black women I wouldn’t mind looking like, I think other black women are beautiful. & I see pretty white girls and pretty Asian women. But I still have my preferred look when it comes to races.
This is going to sound pretty rude, and I don’t mean to, or maybe its just because I am black, but I think black features look much better naturally. Like blue eyes just kind of freak me out. Especially on blonde people because in my subconcious mind I seem to associate it with coldness, like a bitterness. I don’t like the look at all, especially together. I find very thin noses as looking hard. I’m not a big fan of the color of white people’s skin, its like a pinkish tone, but I don’t go around saying that stuff. I DON’T mean to be rude either so I apologize to anyone I offend (which Im sure is a lot) I’m just being 100% honest.
I’ve heard a million times about the bad features black people have, so I figure it goes for both sides. White women have small features, thin lips, sharp noses and the such, these features look good in makeup because they can play them up. As a black woman I realized long ago that our strong features look best with less makeup and stuff. To me, I always felt luckier this way. I noticed that I (as well as many other black women) look pretty good naturally. Not saying white women can’t, but when so many of the images of them are of young girls with makeup artists, stylists and plastic surgery, they seem to have a rough time trying to keep up. I don’t want that. Gabrielle Union already makes me feel like I could look better & Beyonce makes me feel like my body could be better with a few lunges, lol.
But black women look so different than what most people are used to, and looking at stereotypes that associate us with loud ghetto girls with short damaged hair, and its NO surprise that people can say “black women are less attractive than white/Asian women” & believe it. Are we? No way!! I’m black and (this sounds conceited) but I’m not ugly at all, lol. When people follow the stereotypes of ghetto black women as the real deal, then those ghetto black women are what they think of when someone asks if black women are pretty…
I can only thank God that I discovered the beauty of using my OWN eyes to see & judge the world. Many have’t figured that out yet.
Peace
❤Becca❤
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Hear Hear Rebecca
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I read this post awhile ago, it really is fantastic…actually all of Alienated Conclusions is fantastically thought provoking. The latest post that is up, “the sum of all body parts” is mind blowing.
White supremacist ideals are so easy to poke holes in. Its no wonder white folk are so insecure all the time – their cover is getting blown and they aren’t happy about it.
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Yeah I read this article last week. Still as thought provoking as the first time I read it.
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Black kitten sez:
White supremacist ideals are so easy to poke holes in. Its no wonder white folk are so insecure all the time – their cover is getting blown and they aren’t happy about it.
While all white people may indeed be racist, they are not all white supremacist, sorry.
Racism is largely unconscious conditioning (prejudice) mixed with socially constructed privilege. White supremacy is a consciously constructed ideology and its adherents are damned clear about whaat they are doing and why.
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I disagree. If you are white and uphold racist ideals, then consciously or unconsciously you are upholding white supremacy. I don’t necessarily believe that all whites are racist, however given the white supremacy structure in place currently that oppresses non-whites globally, white supremacy is obviously supported by the majority of white people otherwise these structures would not exist.
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to add:
Please don’t get confused and equate white supremacy as something only extremist and white nationalists engage in. White supremacy like racism can be subtle and nuanced. It doesn’t have to be in-your-face to produce devastating results.
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But in that case, what’s the difference between racism and white supremacy? Is there a difference?
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“Preference” would become an unconcealed acceptance of discrimination against white women.
That’s the only part of the post that bothers me. I’m white. I’m often attracted to white women. It’s been that way ever since I started noticing other girls… Have I found black women attractive? Yes, but my preferences tend to lean towards white women. Everyone likes different things, it doesn’t mean they’re discriminating, it just happens…
There’s my two cents.
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I disagree. If you are white and uphold racist ideals, then consciously or unconsciously you are upholding white supremacy.
Well, yeah. But that presumes most white racism is idealistic. The most common sort is precisely the “unconscious” acceptance of priviledge that Abagond describes here.
I mean let’s get real: most white people’s ideology is Best Buy, not white supremacy. To stretch the metaphor, what they don’t get is how Best Buy might be built on certain racist premises.
That’s hardly holding ideals.
This is why I hold with the view that all whites are, indeed, racist. It’s prejudice plus privilege and that holds for you even if you are the most enlightened, informed white in the world. What DOESN’T necessarily hold if the presumption that you have white supremacist ideals.
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@thaddeus
I see where your going with your conclusions, but I still think that you are missing the point that I am trying to get across. I think the way you view racism is the way I view white supremacy. I would explain in greater detail what I mean by that, but unfortunately don’t have the time (I’m going to be late for class).
@Mira
Anyone can be racist against any race, not just whites against everyone, but white supremacy can only truly be put into practice by whites (although arguably non-whites can easily fall into the white supremacist trap and further it along).
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white supremacy i think also is upheld by people who think white people are superior regardless of color
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@peanut
definitely, but I don’t believe that independently a “POC” (for lack of a better term) would uphold white supremacy without first being indoctrinated by white held sources of power (ie the media, etc)
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I know alot of people are going to disagree with me( and I mean alot of people) but I am concerned the role African Americans play in the “white is superior” thinking. I think black people can be destructive in believing that white are superior, NOWHERE NEAR AS MUCH AS WHITES, but they can contribute to it. I think alot of black people consciously or subconsciously believe that whites are superior. I think white racism has damaged black people terribly. But understand, I think alot of black people can be prejudiced against other blacks and that can be very damaging for other black people. I mean how can we overcome white racism if we secretly or openly hate one another. I mean how do you explain the hip hop culture, calling black women b### and H##. This had to be devastatinging for black woman. In fact for young black woman, I think this contributed to alot of anger and mistrust that black woman have towards black men. Many black people constantly call each other by the N word. Quite recently I was on the youtube, and a young black woman( who was beautiful in my opinion), expressed her concern on how some black men have a fixation with skin color and many people both black men and women called her names. Now understand, I don’t know the color of the people on youtube. They can say they are black and actually be white, just to cause trouble. One young black man(again I think he is black) called her a ugly black b####. Now she had beautiful full lips. She looked like she could be a model. Absolutely stunning. One young black person said ” wow she’s got some huge lips” Once again, I don’t know if these people are what they say they are, but if they were black, that is sad. And black people do this to one another alot. Yes white racism is bad, but we have to address black racism and colorism against other black people. No other group of people call their woman names openly the way black people. Now don’t get me wrong, I think most black people are very loving towards one another but feelings of inferiority can cause problems. Some people might say I am blaming the victim but each and every one of us have to be careful in what we say and how we say it. We have to be careful in how we treat each other. I know it may not be easy but lets ask this question, if black woman were white, would she be called terrible names all the time, B#####, H##, chickenhead, skank, golddigger etc. Why don’t we put black woman on a pedestal? This is not a personal attack against black man. Many black men are excellent to the women in their lives.. I have seen black woman hurt other black woman also. Calling each names and so forth. But there is alot of mysoginism in the black community. We need to address this. Now understand attacking white racism would probably alleviate alot of the problems in the black community but we still have to hold ourselves accountable.
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Listen to this song.
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oh well they won’t let us play on this website. But go on youtube and listen to the song by The Ojays “Don’t call me brother”.
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@ jeri
Internalized racism is very hard to get over and is hard to address by other poc.
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I really love this article.. very interesting.
Talking about hair..
I love the ‘afro’ hairdo I think it looks very good and stylish.
I also like the long braids, very pretty.
I find flat,straight light hair boring personally.
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sometimes I wish to see a famous person like michelle obama with their natural hair.
hair doesn’t have to be long or straight to be beautiful imo.
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Your writing is right on point.
I bet many White females WISH deep down, (like their male counterparts) that they were Black. I tend to sense this in my travels.
You see it everyday, everywhere, the total emulation factor. Readings, writings, media, you name it. Them STARING at us – them wishing and hoping for some sudden, MIRACULOUS, image transformation. The ENVY of it all. Ha!
Oh well, to bad they have to spend so much time and MONEY, for something that won’t last them a NATURAL lifetime.
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@Taffy Apple I totally Agree with you….They all Envy us especially white women.They can deny it all they want to but i see it everyday.
They would lie, cheat, and steal to have our melenin rich skin and soft curvy bodies and our natural sexy, swagger and confidence.
I LOVE BEING A SEXY BLACK WOMEN.
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Right on my Nubian sister!
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jeri says,
Yes white racism is bad, but we have to address black racism and colorism against other black people.
Thanks for addressing this excellent point.
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I love this post. I agree with Jeri wholeheartedly! I remember reading this and thinkin wow!
@Thad what race are you?
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When did the media call the daughter’s hair being in twist unfitting? I never heard of that, stupis people as usual, I remember a documentary, at least I believe it was, about how White America does not know much about Black America especially when it comes to hair. Bree from America’s Next Top Model, wore her hair in a fro, when she had to get it straightened for some gig, the lady who did it, told her basically her hair looked better straightened then it did in that afro, it was the way the lady said it that shocked her. If only the Post came true.
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I agree. I went to a predominantly White Catholic school and I have never seen kids talk about drugs and use it as much as them! Then they would ask me if I would do it and then this guy I can’t stand, Nathan Long(This is a false name because his real name is Noah Widman) said that he knew that I was going to smoke. I don’t even smoke! Or do drugs and I was pissed off! I don’t go there anymore and I haven’t been happier! And I don’t care that the Whites don’t like Malia Obama wearing her natural hair because that is her business. I know my natural hair texture is beautiful and I don’t need the White man to tell me otherwise!
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This parody post is interesting. Not so much for what it says (which is as stupid as all the racist stupid things racists usually say) but for the replies it prompted.
Woah.
Let me just copy+paste some:
Tullo : “Most blacks would think the hair style is adorable. Yet it makes whites nervous.
This is all absolutely invisible to whites of course.”
I wonder how many people tullo describes/thinks of as “white” he/she has actually met and talked with. Definite statements such as this “it makes whites nervous” just make me go, “huh?”. (Or maybe ALL Euro-Americans actually are like that ?)
What about the “This is all absolutely invisible to whites of course.” assumption? Have you ever asked ? How do you KNOW ? Does every other person who doesn’t look like you on this planet THINK a certain way that you imagine in your head ?
HOwever, talking about facts, this is something I have observed, as a foreigner, I was totally shocked too: “I went to a predominately white, wealthy college for two years. I never saw anyone do so many drugs or drink so much alcohol OUT IN THE OPEN then those rich, white kids.” I can confirm that it is impossible to socialize with those people because they… don’t have a conversation, or knowledge, or any interest in life except drinking and f… You don’t have to be “black” to notice that. Being non-American suffices. All the international students on campus felt the same.
And I agree with this by BlackkittenROAR : “If you are white and uphold racist ideals, then consciously or unconsciously you are upholding white supremacy. I don’t necessarily believe that all whites are racist, however given the white supremacy structure in place currently that oppresses non-whites globally, white supremacy is obviously supported by the majority of white people otherwise these structures would not exist.”
which is why I think it would be preferable that we differentiate people by “racists” and non-racists, it would make things a little easier. Like, it would make it easier to explain to “whites” what the system they live in is about, without having them react negatively through “guilty feelings” or “shame”. We have got to get these people to change, this cannot go on forever. But if the discourse goes like this: “YOU did this to US, blah blah”… How do you think they are going to be willing to listen ? Only non-racists can hear that not feel attacked. Racists will automatically “team up” with their ancestry.
Or, use other terms than “race” to *describe* people (like light-skinned or dark-skinned). Why the heck should we obey the 300-year-old theory of race ? Who says we should ? Who would be most insecure if we stopped ? if not those who hold on to their “whiteness” ? They are the ones who need it.
Buuuut, this is America, and some things are “indécrottables” as I would say in my language (meaning you can’t get the dried sh*t off of it) and “race” still has a long lifespan ahead of itself in this place…
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And an example of manipulation. 1) I make a statement:
“@Taffy Apple I totally Agree with you….They all Envy us especially white women.”
2) Then I speak in the place of the persons I am targeting in my statement, to suggest that they will say something, but who cares.
“They can deny it all they want to but i see it everyday.”
Oh, well.
3) And then I add some supremacist, generalizing talk. And the racist loop is closed. (That’s how racists have always done it, they make statements, they say you’ll deny them and they generalize, usually thinking -because they convince themselves- that everyone thinks the same).
“They would lie, cheat, and steal to have our melenin rich skin and soft curvy bodies and our natural sexy, swagger and confidence.”
One thing is for sure. We are all human. And not perfect. But we might think we are. Nubian proved it.
The post clearly states it: it imagines what it would be for black women “in a black supremacist world”.
I wonder how many of the posters actually KNOW what “supremacist” means… It seems like History (facts, not “his” story) hasn’t taught much, to the point that the very victims of a system would enjoy it if reversed. So what exactly are they reproaching those who apply it (white supremacists) with ?
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What is interesting is that I tend to find men who are part black or east asian more attractive than caucasoid type men which can include europeans & even south asians like indians & I think this because I find softer features like a more rounded or flatter nose, full lips & dark hair & eyes more attractive. Now this is something I don’t normally go around admitting because some white people might find that offensive, but it is interesting that the very features blacks & mongoloid get mocked for like having fuller lips or a flatter face I actually find more attractive.
Some white people also have softer features like marlon brando & angelina jolie & I find them more attractive than the likes of giselle bundchen & christian bale who have more angular facial features
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Jennifer, I am what the US classifies as “white” and I do not find people with no lips (quite a few Americans are like that) or flat butts attractive. It’s a question of taste, I guess… In my so-called “white” family, there are people with very thick lips (my grand-pa, there are many Europeans with thick lips) and very thin lips (my other grand-pa), people with round butts (me) and other with flat ones (my dad)…
These features are found in all groups defined as “races”, and became supposedly representative of those “races”, because more people have them. But there are flat-butt and thin-lipped Africans (I know several of them, friends or family). Does that make them “white” ? No.
I think if we want to understand this world as it is, we really need to throw the BS of race in the trash cans of stupidity and history.
What is this idea that “white people” will get offended as anything positive said about “others” ? Only racists will.
Peace.
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