The Black Spring (2014- ) is the name some give to the current protests in the US by Blacks and others, especially those against police brutality.
It gets its name from how it is oddly like the Arab Spring of 2011 in Egypt and elsewhere:
- Lack of human rights.
- High rates of poverty and unemployment that the government is doing little about.
- Use of Twitter and street protests.
- The government answering legitimate demands with a police crackdown. Go back to Step #1.
There is a difference, though: in the US the protesters in Egypt were seen as heroes, while protesters in the US are ignored or called “thugs”, even by a Black president.
I date the beginning of the Black Spring to Ferguson in 2014. There were protests before that, like for Rekia Boyd and Kimani Gray, and huge ones for Trayvon Martin. And there were the Moral Monday protests in North Carolina, the largest civil rights protests in the South since Selma. But Ferguson seems to be ground zero. Ferguson, until 2014, was a little known suburb of St Louis. Now when you say “Ferguson” it has come to mean so much more.
Is this the start of something big? Only time will tell. The Occupy movement seemed like it would be big too, but where is it now?
I argue that the Black Spring is the beginning of something big:
- Imperfect victims: Michael Brown and Freddie Gray were not perfect victims, unlike, say, the cases of Emmett Till and Rosa Parks, which set off the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 1960s. And unlike Trayvon Martin, whose death was every Black parent’s nightmare come true. Gray had a long police record. Brown was videotaped pushing aside a capitalist. And yet the protests took place anyway. And not just in their own cities but across the nation. And it was not just Blacks either who have been protesting.
- Fuel to the fire: Every big city in the US has a Freddie Gray just waiting to happen.
- Media technology: The powers that be have not yet gained control over the Internet. Twitter, in particular. The same was true with printed books and the Protestant Reformation, and with newspapers and the English Civil War. This gives protesters a huge opening. Not only to stage protests but to provide news that the White press has been filtering out for as long as I can remember.
- Demographics: Like in the 1850s, the vote that keeps the current racist arrangement of the US in place will soon sink below 50%. The Southern Strategy will soon fail because the Republican Party is running out of enough Angry White Men to make it work. That is why they favour laws limiting voting and immigration but not those that limit political spending by billionaires.
In time the Internet will be brought under control and a new “White” majority will be put together, but till then, maybe the next 20 to 30 years, there is an opening for a new Reconstruction.
– Abagond, 2015.
See also:
- Ferguson
- Southern Strategy
- perfect victim
- imperfect victims
- Kimani Gray
- Rekia Boyd
- Moral Mondays
- Selma
- The term “thug”
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Thoughtful and observant post.
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I really really hope this takes hold and has half the outcome they had in Egypt.
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I don’t think marching alone is enough
No they’ll just manipulate the media and shoot or gas us if we keep marching. Or bomb our cities. Doesn’t matter if it’s peaceful. They’ll send in crisis actors or government agents to create violence and havoc and then use that as an excuse to bring the military in. Barack Obama will be on their side.
The military is already doing drills in closed down Walmarts. That’s what Jade Helm is. That’s why they’re locking people up in mental institutions for reporting crimes. I don’t think they’re going to wait for us to mount a defense they’re already organizing all this sh.t right now. That’s what Jade Helm. They’re going to use the soldiers to back the police up if it ever come to mass uprising, you all saw what they police did to G20 protesters and Occupy WallStreet.
They have a plan and they are prepared. I saw MANY things that bothered me coming down the pipe in Nursing years ago and they’re worse now than they were before. Healthcare professionals are one of the special classes that can be drafted in the event of a national emergency if it ever came to a war. All these media events are just pretests for whatever is coming and I guarantee you it’s some kind of War with Russia or the dollar collapsing. It’s steadily declining every day. Half of the country is unemployed and on some kind of government support as it is anyway.
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Also, I think it needs to be an economic revolution, whoever has the money, has the power…I don’t think marching alone is enough
The monied classes are a part of this or they won’t do anything for the rest of us. They’ve already been bought out, a long time ago, I think. They sold out the people under them to protect themselves, I’m guessing. That protection won’t last though, and by the time they realise they’re next it will be too late. This is exactly how the first and second world wars started. It’s like history repeating itself. If there is a black reconstruction in America, it will be LONG after a lot of people have died and the clock has been reset.
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This is all going to get so much worse before it gets better. And so unnecessarily. So much life has already been lost to no purpose. Black people will survive, I don’t think they mean to kill all of us they just want us back under their control. We’re going to be culled, all the critical thinkers, rebels, dissidents, or people who might become that will be eliminated( AHA mental health parity) or reeducated( Common Core).
Then they’ll slowly re enslave us because they’re going to need free laborers for the war supply factories. And the mistake they made in the last world war was to empower women and create a more racially integrated middle class that supported Civil, Women, and Labor Rights movements and made higher education more accessible. They won’t make that mistake again. And our prison population just isn’t going to supply enough domestic industrial slave labor for that. And this time the war will probably come home. Russia’s been itching to get at D.C. for years and our government f.cking with Ukraine is all the excuse they need. All this stuff is being done to condition and distract us.
When they war really begins, we’ll be the first population group to be thinned out. The next will be Hispanics. Then Asians. Then women. In all groups this will run along income lines from the bottom to the top.
That’s what I see happening to the underclass already. It’s why I write on here so much. To warn people and to…make my tiny voice heard because I doubt I’ll survive whatever they have planned. I just wish I knew how I was going to die or live. I can see everyone’s fate but I’ve always been pretty blind to my own.
You always have the power to refuse. You can be tortured or killed but you can never be forced to do something you don’t want to do. That’s the ONE passive form of power that can’t be taken away. I’d rather be be the victim than the perpetrator. I try to remember that. It keeps me focused.
And people are probably thinking “This b..ch is insane.” But I know what I’ve seen and I know what all this sh.t is meant to do. Nothing is being done for it’s stated purpose and without reason, people are just to scared admit that the sh.t stinks. We all smell it though.
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I’m prepared to accept the “crazy b..ch” label if I’m wrong, but are people prepared to accept the consequences of me being right or not too far off about all of this?
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AlitaRegina: I don’t think you’re wrong. I can see it happening. I just see it.
I want to just scream at my friends and co- workers, to just wake up and pay attention, but they’ll just think I’m crazy And won’t listen.
It’s frustrating to watching a train wreck about to happen, and be able to do sh** all to stop it.
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@ lkeke35lkeke35
It’s why Cassandra from the Illiad was cursed. No one likes to hear bad news and dismissing warnings as “irrational fear mongering” or “mental Illness” is just a way of comforting themselves.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels frustrated. It’s like seeing mice in a python cage. You would think they would run away or something but they don’t, they just hold still and freeze up. They become paralyzed by fear.
And then they get eaten.
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I honestly think Obama was chosen as for a reason. And yes he was chosen. I really don’t think votes are counted since the Bush election.
I think the DOD and the military open took over our government after 9/11. Everything is Homeland Security. Even if they get rid of the patriot act they’ll just put something equally totalitarian in it’s place.
And a lot of people don’t know this but the person who made the precurser to the Zyklon B gas, Fitz Haber was Jewish:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber
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…was a German chemist of Jewish origin who received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1918 for his development of the Haber process, which was the first industrially perfected method of synthesizing ammonia from nitrogen and hydrogen gasses. This invention was of importance to the synthesis of fertilizers and explosives.
Haber played a major role in the development of chemical warfare in World War I, in spite of their proscription in the Hague Convention of 1907 (to which Germany was a signatory). He was promoted to the rank of captain and made head of the Chemistry Section in the Ministry of War soon after the war began.[3]:133 In addition to leading the teams developing chlorine gas and other deadly gases for use in trench warfare, Haber was on hand personally when it was first released by the German military at the Second Battle of Ypres (22 April to 25 May 1915) in Belgium.[3]
Haber was a patriotic German who was proud of his service during World War I, for which he was decorated.[16] He was even given the rank of captain by the Kaiser, rare for a scientist too old to enlist in military service.
Haber defended gas warfare against accusations that it was inhumane, saying that death was death, by whatever means it was inflicted. During the 1920s, scientists working at his institute developed the cyanide gas formulation Zyklon A, which was used as an insecticide, especially as a fumigant in grain stores.[17]
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I’m not poining this out to be antisemitic or as proof of some Zyonist conspiracy. I’m drawing attention to the fact that A Jewish man was instrumental in systematically destroying his own people.
That’s what I think will happen this time. I don’t think Barack Obama was the first high ranking mulattoe in the governement, look at Colin Powell and J. Edgar Hoover. I’ve heard from many sources that it was an OPEN SECRET that J Edgar Hoover was a mulattoe. And look at Rafael Trujillo: his grandmother was black. That’s why BOTH of them, presuming J Edgar Hoover was a mulattoe, destroyed their own people. I think they hated the black parts of themselves, and if Hoover was gay like a lot of people think he was, I think being gay and black added to his sense of fear and paranoia towards the black community and anyone who opposed the US government. No one is more nosy than people who have skeletons in their closet and secrets to hide.
J Edgard Hoover, who I think assainated both of the Kennedy’s, hated them. Robert F Kennedy had a buzzer that he would use to summon J Edgard Hoover to his office and it p*ssed J Edgar Hoover off!
If J Edgar Hoover wasn’t a mulattoe why would he be so incensed at being summoned, like a house servant, by the attorney general? If Hoover was a mulattoe then Bobby Kennedy was treating him like what he would have been viewed as a that time, especially by Irish Americans: inferior, that would have made him murderously angry I bet. To be treated like what he probably secretly feared he was.
Nobody does you like family do you. And that’s why the most racist president, Woodrow Wilson, put him in that position I think. They want the minorities to police their own. Specifically the ones who have loyalties to both sides, the mixed race people. And the self hating ones can be even more violent than the racists because they see killing their own as killing a part of themselves that they loathe. It has a kind of cleansing effect on them and they’re less bothered by it than White People are.
Ask yourselves whose interests Barack Obama has broken his neck serving?
Ask yourselves if the government surveillance has increased or decreased under him?
Ask yourselves if you trust him after all the sh.t he’s been sleeping on?
Money and power changes people and black people, people who have been and are traditionally powerless in this society even more so.
One thing powerful people love to do is get the people they control to do their dirty work for them. Make them police and kill each other so they don’t have to dirty their hands. And they don’t get the blame. Because Obama and I believe Hoover, were both of Negro ancestry and there are rumors that Obama had a gay lover.
The SS and I think all of the top ranking Nazi’s, like Rohmmel, who was best friends with Hitler(all of the women Hitler was linked to , including his niece, tried to commit suicide, two of them succeeded, because Hitler was SO not strait, Eva Braun was a BEARD) were gay or bisexual. It was military dictatorship. Think about it. That’s why people think Hitler was never promoted after fighting in the first World Wars, he was a good soldier but, there’s a reason why you wouldn’t want a homosexual to have the power of life and death or any kind of serious authority over other men. Or a man to have that kind of authority over women(in a patriarchal society) look at all the sexual assaults in the military: it’s usually men with rank against lower ranking females.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Barack Obama was gay, he’s giving them constitutional rights, like to marry, at the same time blacks and women are losing the right to vote and plan their families. Nazi’s were against abortion too because even though they were largely gay they wanted women for breeding. And they gave all these social benefits to mothers too.
What population groups agenda is the President serving? It’s not ours you guys. It’s the white males and the gays. He left our a.ses back when he got elected and the man who says he was the president’s lover was a white man.
Think about it. That’s all I’m saying.
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Don’t listen to what the President says, look at what he actually does, or DOESN’T DO.
That should tell you who’s side he’s really on:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kbhkFrrxNs)
I still think Obama’s a puppet serving a larger agenda but he’s being put out there to oversee this for a reason. Just like Fitz Haber was.
And I’m a black woman saying this, no some racist white person who hates Obama. It’s just….too many things are starting to add up and make sense.
Even those NeoNazi movements in Europe are headed by homosexual men:\
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-strange-strange-story_b_136697.html
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Yet when the British National Party – our own home-grown Holocaust-denying bigots – announced it was fielding an openly gay candidate in the European elections this June, dedicated followers of fascism didn’t blink. The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was – including the gay-gassing, homo-cidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past thirty years have been gay. It’s time to admit something.Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is – in part, at least – a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
Just look at our own continent over the past decade. Dutch fascist Pim Fortuyn ran on blatantly racist anti-immigrant platform, describing Islam as “a cancer” and “the biggest threat to Western civilisation today.” Yet with two little fluffy dogs and a Mamma complex, he was openly, flamboyantly gay. When accused by a political opponent of hating Arabs, he replied, “How can I hate Arabs? I sucked one off last night.”
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Barack Obama is black so…how can he hate his own people? None of what is going on is racist, the cops are just killing thugs, right?
I’m not homophobic at all, there’s just reasons, very obvious reasons, not to put people with certain…identity issues in certain positions of power. The Nazi’s only killed gay people who spoke out against sexual abuses of boys or were a threat to their power. Before the Night of Long Knives, Hitler and Ernest Rohmmel were best friends. And Kaiser Wilhelm, despite having seven children, was gay. That’s why his own mother couldn’t stand him and he was so obsessed with expanding Germany’s Military.
And Fascists are always misogynist. They either hate women because they’re sexist rapists (Trujillo and the Mirabel sisters, and Mussolini) or they’re homosexual and only think women are good for breeding. Every military empire, going all the way back to Rome, was misogynist and pederast for a reason. Mothers protect their boys from sexual predators in a society where they have the power to do so.
I don’t think it’s homosexuality itself that’s the problem so much as it’s misogyny and CLOSETED homosexuality. Hitler and the Kaiser both felt the need to pretend to be strait. The Eulenberg Affair was exposed by a Jewish Reporter too, and Kaiser Wilhelm was virulently antisemitic at least in part because Judaism and now Islam doesn’t tolerate homosexuality like Christianity does.
All those Neo Nazi’s have SERIOUS MASCULINTY issues. That’s why they kill or attack people. It’s a way of reaffirming their manhood and…getting close to other men.
As that writer in the Huffinton Post said, “Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is – in part, at least – a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.
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@ Lord of Mirkwood
See the Hufington Post article that I linked which was written by a gay man and not a self hating one. I think… certain MISOGYNIST gay and strait men, have an agenda to kill or enslave large sections of the population.
You’re jumping the gun on what I said. Read it ALL first. If you know ANYTHING about history or Germany or Military Empires or even the Neo Nazi movement in Europe, you won’t find what I’m saying homophobic, but wait a minute because that comment is in moderation.
But seriously can I please just ask you to just f.cking chill for second before you go off on a rant. Read it all and then argue with me.
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@ Lord of Milkwood
When it gets out of moderation, because I linked a youtube video, but I don’t feel like having bulls.t identity politics arguments. I’m talking about fascism and a particular kind. Not homophobia or LGBT or even race issues. Those are just red herrings to make people argue over b.llsh.t.
I do not have prejudice or hatred or whatever against LGBT that is SO not what I’m talking about. It’s just a part of it.
But, seriously chill. For real. You’re missing the point.
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@Pumpkin
I differ here a bit, I think they’re going to try to assimilate some of the hispanics( white hispanics)/ asians into the “white population.”
I think if they do it will be the richest and even then on a conditional basis. For now we’re the ones catching all the heat because at least by appearance we look the most different, and we’re the easiest to single out but if you look at it from a power standpoint, black and brown Latinos are the biggest and most threatening minority groups to any kind of tyrannical dictatorship. That’s why all the Facists and Royalty attacked the Jews, they were the most powerful MINORITY in all those countries. They were a threat to whatever totalitarian government was in power and they were very active in social rights movements. At least half of them were. Some of them were the biggest supporters of the powerful because they relied on their protection and hated being Jewish.
White people aren’t less racist against Brown Latinos Asians, right now they’r just lower priority. Asians just have the protection of their respective powerful countries and in certain areas Asian/Hispanic Racism is EXACTLY the same as Black racism.
if you take black people out of the picture completely, they’re the next logical group to target. It is about racism if you look at it from a power and control standpoint but the skin color and ethnicity is largely incidental.
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I don’t know if I would go that extreme about Obama, but one thing is clear…he can’t change the system. Having a black president for 8 years will not change the system
Oh yeah that’s all just speculation on my part, but I’m just saying, don’t get fooled by the fact that he’s part black. Trujillo and Mussolini were also and people say J. Edgar Hoover was. It was known that the SS were largely gay and they still sent other gay men to die in the concentration camps.
Fascists governments are anti anyone who isn’t in their select group of people. It doesn’t matter who those people are necessarily.
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I differ here a bit, I think they’re going to try to assimilate some of the hispanics( white hispanics)/ asians into the “white population.”
I think the hispanics and asians like to think and tell themselves that and I also think they’re largely delusional. It’ll be circumstantial if it happens, every truly racist person I’ve ever known doesn’t tolerate them any more than us. Go onto Storm front sometime and see how they talk about asians and lightskinned latin people. They have a different N word for both of them.
It’s just like Slavic people who join neo nazi movements in Europe and don’t see the irony in the fact that slav means “Slave”. After the Nazi’s used them to kill or deport their native minority populations(gypsy and roma) they put them to work doing slave labor and started taking food and supplies from them.
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@ Lord of Mirkwood
It’s not homosexuality I think that’s a side effect of military and misogynist tyrannical governments. The easiest way to control the young is to take them away from their mothers. Make all the young people basically property of the state, that’s what the Hitler Youth AND the Communists did, Even Putin was kidnapped and forced to join the military, like a lot of young Russian boys were.
It’s very hard to protect your children when you can’t even raise them. That’s why both those countries had such rampant sexual abuse of males, particularly young ones. It wasn’t because of homosexuality it was because of misogyny and military style fascism. That particular kind of fascism, military dictatorship, attracts young men with masculinity issues(men with masculinity issues usually have issues with their parents), which is why it makes sense that so many of the people who participated were homosexual or sexist rapists. Fascism in general is largely patriarchal male phenomenon. Because testosterone makes men really destructive, especially when they have identity issues.
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@ Lord of Mirkwood
Even with Catholics, there’s a book called “Brideshead Revisited” and it’s all about this Englishman’s conversion to Catholocism. There’s a character in it named Sebastian who’s a barely closeted homosexual. He’s based off a real Portugese Prince named Sebastian of Portugal:
Click to access pedophile.pdf
The real Sebastian of Portugal was the last great hope of the Portugese nobels. He was the only male heir of a very inbred family and shortly after he was born, his mother left him in the care of his grandmother and a Jesuit Confessor, who sexually abused him. To the point that he had gonorrhea by the time he was twelve.
Sebastian destroyed everyone’s hopes by avoiding marriages with any princesses,and stupidly going off to die in a war against this Muslim prince. But Sebastian was basically committing suicide since they had no treatment for gonorrhea back then so any marriage would have been a disaster and he knew he was sexually attracted to other boys. And he was also misogynist, but I think his hatred of women was really hatred of his mother for abandoning him. She didn’t really and she had no choice but he probably saw it that way. And he was basically molded by a man who abused him so his aversion to women is all bound up in the patriarchal society and religion he was a part of.
And that was all facilitated by his mother being out of the picture at a young age. People who sexually prey on young always hate women. They see them as a threat. In the Catholic Church it’s sexual predators, strait and gay. Male and Female but largely Male. That’s why all these religions don’t want women to be self sufficient. If women were able to support themselves and their families there wouldn’t be any pool of people(orphans,disabled,teenagers,widows,”fallen women”) to victimize and exploit and indoctrinate.
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People forget the Catholic Church had it’s own standing army for much of it’s history and The Holy Roman Empire was arguably the first fascist dictatorship with imperialist ambitions. They started the age of colonization and colonized much of the world. There’s a reason why the Roman Emperors converted to Christianity and it’s that Judaism is matrileneal. And Rome was basically a Military Dictatorship. The power structure was all based on men. Julius Ceaser was every woman’s husband and every man’s wife. And that was the the imperialist empire that basically made America. It’s all modeled after the Catholic Church and more specifically the Inquisition.
Even today in Portugal Jesuit Priests still sexually abuse children:
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Instead, arriving at Casa Pia (House of the Pious), a 17th century Lisbon orphanage where more than 4,000 children are cared for each year behind high stone walls the doctor would summon selected boys and girls from their beds for examinations one night each week.
Where possible, he chose deaf-mutes.
After checking that the children were not suffering from any sexual infections, the doctor was joined by the orphanage caretaker, known as Bibi, who ushered the unfortunate children outside to a waiting van.
With the doctor following in his red Ferrari, Bibi drove the van to the prestigious homes of some of the leading members of Lisbon society – ranging from Portuguese government ministers and high-ranking diplomats, to famous television stars and members of the judiciary.
There, the children were repeatedly sexually abused. Some were allegedly drugged to make them compliant; others were plied with alcohol.
This continued for years. Assaults were filmed; pictures of one attack were subsequently found at the home of a suspected paedophile in Paris.
According to medical records, the victims’ injuries were horrific – and consistent with serious sexual assault and rape. In witness statements, many were able to describe in minute detail the homes where they were taken and identifying marks on the bodies of their abusers.
The existence of this so-called “magic circle” of the Portuguese establishment, allegedly involved in an international paedophile ring using boys and girls from Casa Pia, was last week likened to an earthquake waiting to shake Portugal to its foundations.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488654/Why-Portugal-haven-paedophiles–disturbing-backcloth-Madeleine-case.html#ixzz3aAows2VJ
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Sexual abuse itself is one of the best and most enduring tools of indoctrination. That’s why tyrannical governments are so misogynist. The Jesuits in particular have a LOOONG history of it. Particularly in Germany:
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http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/jesuit-priest-admits-molesting-youth-germany-shaken-by-systematic-sexual-abuse-at-berlin-catholic-school-a-675331.html
A priest last week admitted in a statement to SPIEGEL he had abused a number of pupils at an elite Berlin high school run by Jesuit priests. In recent days, around 20 former students have come forward alleging they were sexually abused by priests at the school. The director of Canisius College has described the years-long abuse as “systematic.”
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Military Dictatorships and Paramilitary gangs are just the secular version of it. the Nazi’s basically set themselves up to mirror the Catholic Church.
It’s not the religion, it’s not the sexuality, it’s the power structure and it’s the totalitarian system. Abuse is always systemic and it’s usually a tool of indoctrination that tyrannical governments use.
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Am I the only one that see’s all the connection in this because my Dad is Hispanic? Even Henry VIII modeled the Church of England after the Catholic Church so this all still applies to protestants. But to me it’s mad obvious whats going on.
Think about it. Seriously. Even if you disagree you have to admit that I have many points that can’t be easily discounted.
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Obama didn’t grow up with the black community anyway. He grew up with his White American family. His Kenyan father didn’t even raise him. Stop thinking he’s on our side. This stuff wouldn’t be happening if he was.
People won’t get it until he turns the army on us. Then will people still act like the f.cking President of America can’t stop what’s going on? Because the Federal Executive Branch has the power to do that. They’re not using it because they don’t give a f.ck about us, and they’re complicit! None of this could be happening without their sayso and Abagond peeped that from Occupy Wallstreet.
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Correction:
Sebastian of Portugal was ten when he first displayed symptoms of gonorrhea.
My mistake.
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All those upper echelon people are connected anyways. They all go to the same private schools, join the same clubs, travel in the same circles, hang out with the same people, go to the same Ivy League Universities. That movie “The Good Shepard” was about “The Skull and Bones Society” and it’s connection to the CIA. Europe doesn’t need fraternities and sororities because it has noble families.
I think the fact that Anderson Cooper did a CIA internship(he’s still in the CIA, they control the press now) and is a Vanderbilt has a lot to do with him being top anchor at CNN. He made that rise WAY too quickly for them not to have spearheaded it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/10/20/quoted-anderson-cooper-on-his-cia-internship/
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@ Peanut
there are rumors going around some parts of Baltimore City, that the police actually instigated “the riots,” with the high school kids on purpose…now why would they do that, what purpose would it ultimately serve?
For the same reason Cointelpro and the FBI put informants in activists groups who would suggest violent acts, like making bombs, or killing and toturing people. The Governments wants to make people be divided and spread terror but they want it to appear as if it’s coming from us instead of the Government so that in the eyes of the world they have a reason to shoot at us.
The whole reason the civil rights or any non violent movement succeeded at all is because it showed racist terror to the world and it turned the tide of GLOBAL public opinion. I think around the time MLK and Malcolm X were assassinated they were both speaking out against the War in Vietnam and class issues. Malcolm X in particular was going to appeal to the UN.
Eisenhower warned about the military industrial complex for a reason. Wars have been our main source of income ever since this country stopped being a British Colony. And both times out country has almost been torn apart is over black civil rights. First in the Civil War and then after WWII during Civil Rights.
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Before it was stated that Trayvon Martin was an almost perfect victim, scoring 3 out of 4 marks, the highest that a black person can score.
Yet, he was too far from being a perfect victim. Who would be a perfect black victim? How about Tamir Rice? For a black person, how could one be more perfect?
But Tamir Rice was not even referenced above?
Maybe it would have to be the nephew of Michelle Obama? Do we still have to wait for a perfect victim now? A lot has happened since Trayvon Martin.
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I already said something like it on another thread, but it’s probbly petter fitting here. I think the main difference between the Arab Spring and the Occupy movement was that the former had a clear, verifiable objective: The governemnt has to step down. Both movements had a lot of momentum, but Occupy basicly achieved nothing. It didn’t even change the discussion.
I’m still not seeing what such a clear, verifiable objective is for the Black Spring movement.
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Stop calling for revolution.
Blacks are treated fine in this country.
You are cherrypicking.
Trayvon was suspended from school for drugs
Gray had many drug arrests
Brown attacked a police officer
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Protest are great because they bring awareness, however, in order for bring real change we must hurt their pockets. Strategic boycotts are needed against target businesses. Unfortunately, I fear this will never happen because of a lack of organization.
@bobby m
You’re delusional. Please do some research on subtle racial biases and the structural racism that exist in almost every American institution.
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@ Bobby M
So did those three deserve what happened to them?
This is the question that separates the online cowards from the unrepentant bigots.
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I don’t think things are working. Black spring? *signs*. I may sound like a pessimist but when the dominant race decides to use the dominant black African continent as a springboard to explore a white supremacy via claiming the last piece of unclaimed land for their white child (who is now considered the princess of Africa btw, and Disney is making a movie about it), you know you’ve got a problem.
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I don’t know if people notice or care but the AHA is now pushing psychotropic drugging on medicaid/medicare recipients and on the poor. Many of whom, since Roe Vs Wade was struck down, are in foster care:
http://www.dailynews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/storyimage/LA/20140823/NEWS/140829748/AR/0/AR-140829748.jpg&maxh=400&maxw=667
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Abandoned and alone, they are among California’s most powerless children. But instead of providing a stable home and caring family, the state’s foster care system gives them a pill.
With alarming frequency, foster and health care providers are turning to a risky but convenient remedy to control the behavior of thousands of troubled kids: numbing them with psychiatric drugs that are untested on and often not approved for children.
An investigation by this newspaper found that nearly 1 out of every 4adolescents in California’s foster care system is receiving these drugs— 3 times the rate for all adolescents nationwide. Over the last decade, almost 15 percent of the state’s foster children of all ages were prescribed the medications, known as psychotropics, part of a national treatment trend that is only beginning to receive broad scrutiny.
“We’re experimenting on our children,” said Los Angeles County Judge Michael Nash, who presides over the nation’s largest juvenile court.
A year of interviews with foster youth, caregivers, doctors, researchers and legal advocates uncovered how the largest foster care system in the U.S. has grown dependent on quick-fix, taxpayer-funded, big-profit pharmaceuticals — and how the state has done little to stop it.
“To be prescribing these medications so extensively and so, I think, thoughtlessly, with so little evidence supporting their use, it’s just malpractice,” said George Stewart, a Berkeley child psychiatrist who has treated the neediest foster children in the Bay Area for the past four decades. “It really is drugging them.”
http://www.dailynews.com/health/20140823/children-in-californias-foster-care-system-are-prescribed-risky-medications
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It’s not just California, it’s all of the states that voted to expand medicaid.
Notice a pattern? When Children become property of people other than their parents they’re at higher risk of being forcibly silenced? Why would those people not want them speaking freely? The only people I know who don’t want people speaking freely are abusive people. And now this pool of exploitable people are legally mandated in most cases to be drugged into compliance.
Do I even need to point out the similarities between the Orphanage in Casa Pia, Portugal and the pyschotropic drugging of our nations foster children.
I really want to ask the men this: Do you really think having power over women is worth having this happen to children? Is forcing women to carry children they to term they didn’t plan on conceiving worth this?
Did any of the people who voted for or thought the Affordable Health Care Act was a good idea, have this in mind? Because Mental Health Parity can and is being applied to adults. I don’t think forcibly drugging people solves any behavior problems, but it does keep them quiet.
And look at the skin color of that girl holding all the pills. Burn that image into your mind because you know in your heart the color of most of those invisible foster children being drugged is. And it d..n sure isn’t white.
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@Kartoffel
I’m still not seeing what such a clear, verifiable objective is for the Black Spring movement.
There really isn’t one. People don’t want to believe that our government could be doing things to harm us because“The President is (Half) Black”. That’s why all these protests are against the local and state authorities and have no clearly defined objective. People want to protest but, most Americans have this weird almost fanatical devotion to democratic process and the Government even when all the obvious facts points to it being effectively suspended and the government becoming increasing Fascist.
We shouldn’t have to protest anything if we’re born in this country and we pay taxes. That should be enough to get something done. But most of us are so conditioned with this post racial BS we don’t realize that we’re still basically second class citizens.
The Civil Rights Movement achieved a lot of things but it really wasn’t finished and it was effectively suppressed and shut down, violently. And then people just kind of got exhausted with it and made up this rosy fairy tale narrative about what it actually achieved and what it’s goals were: integration was only certain people’s goal namely the middle to upper class blacks. Working class and some middle class blacks wanted Black Power and Black Liberation. We didn’t all want to skip merrily through the streets and hold hands with white people. Some of us wanted to live like proud dignified human beings and white people didn’t even enter into it at that point. For some of us.
That’s why I’m more of Malcolm X than a Martin Luther King person. Malcolm X didn’t f.ck around on his wife with white women like Martin Luther King did. Malcolm X was faithful to his wife and his people and he didn’t sugar coat things just to placate white people’s feelings like MLK did. That was why King really wanted integration I think. That’s why a lot middle to upper class black people wanted intergration and you’re seeing it now with New Black ” I don’t see racism because I don’t want to. I love White People and I wish all those Black People who are angry about Racism and Classism would stop getting in the way of me enjoying being subservient to white people and their interests! Shoot they’re messing it up for me! I hope to one day buy some of those privileges that white people enjoy and I’m not going to let all those angry black people get in my way. Until I forget my place and white people remind me that I only got to where I am by being subservient to them and serving their interests and I get thrown under the bus by them. Then I will BE one of those angry black people myself. But for now I’m just going to enjoy all the white attention and approval and call other angry Black People jealous haters, or stuck in the past. “
People always gloss over Martin Luther Kings infidelity and his proven plagiarism but it’s no secret that he loved to f.ck white women which if he did that openly back then would have gotten him killed. And judging by how shall we say, insatiable he was I think if he could have married a white woman, he would have. Racism got in his way is all. That was all he cared about. That’s all a lot of middle to upper class black people care about: white acceptance and approval. Not equality.
And I’ve always gotten mistaken fro middle to upper class because of my intelligence when from what I’ve seen in the education system, poverty isn’t the reason for low test scores, white racism and preferential treatment for whites and subservient minorities is. I’ve seen white people who admitted to failing because they didn’t study get passed anyway. But people act like integrated education is the salvation of the poor when it really just gives white people control of your children’s future.
And I’m not against interracial relationships but in a society like ours and in Latin America, where we effectively have a cultural hierarchy all that does is it encourages people in the lower part of the hierarchy to basically prostitute themselves to whiteness to advance in life. The whole point of equality was equality. No one gets to have privileges when everyone is equal because they’re not necessary but some middle to upper class black people wanted to keep their privileges over the rest and everybody lost out. Including them. All those Black Futbol players, save a few, have blond hired and blue eyed wives but none of them work in government or industry or have any real power. They just have money and a white spouse. Money can become worthless tomorrow. It’s losing value everyday.
But that was the consolation prize the middle and upper class blacks settled for. The opportunity to have kids with good hair, lighter skin and the privilege of spending more money than white people to have the same level of education, income, and housing. A more privileged second class citizenship.
The rest of us were just a.s out. And while the police shootings make some of them uncomfortable, because it’s hard to ignore their non black friends and acquaintances indifference to the murder of American Citizens, they still get this economic privilege(for now) that makes denial more comfortable than confronting a lot of racial and class issues.
But the President told us to stop complaining so….there must be nothing to complain about. Right?
They’re very complacent but…they want to appear militant at the same time, as long as they don’t get shot at, that is. But they’re not cowards because white people are “basically good”(“They like to f.ck us! That can’t be a bad thing can it?” and it’s only “A few bad apples” that do these things. And we basically deserve it anyway, being all poor and committing victimless quality of life crimes like stealing and complaining about being sexually assaulted by the police. Oh not all of those are crimes? And we weren’t even convicted, just suspected of committing them, so it was basically an execution without a trial?
Kind of like a lynching but without a noose?
But whatever, the President is (half) Black. All that racism is in the past. I’ll just buy less expensive cars and buy a bulletproof vest. You have to go along to get along.
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@Kartoffel
It’s very confusing I know. People who want to look militant but be subservient at the same time. I actually saw this old black man shining shoes for a dollar yesterday and when I asked him if he realized how ashamed that made me feel and he was like, “White people are my brothers and sisters?”
“Why aren’t they shining your shoes then? Why did they enslave us?”
“I put three kids through college doing this-”
“By being subservient to white people. Did you choose to do this or did you feel as if you had no other choice because you couldn’t get an education yourself because colleges and universities were segregated?”
“Se I can’t talk to you. Your mind is already made up. Have a good day.”
“I just asked you a few questions, there’s no need to yell. I really didn’t mean to upset you.”
And I felt bad so I gave him a dollar and he offered to shine my boots but I said, “I’m not going to make you do that. I respect my brothers enough not to degrade them by making them clean my boots. I can clean my own boots. Thank you though.”
Go to Soho, or any of the clubs In the Village and you’ll see Black Men earning a living by shining people’s shoes for tips.
That’s how “post racial” everything is now. And the economy is in the sh.tter and most people are unemployed and inflation has made basic needs out of the reach of the working class unless you work super humanly long hours everyday. And The Voting Rights Act has been struck down, under the first (half) Black President, who’s really just the first mixed race president to acknowledge his black ancestry,
But we have a (Half) Black President soo…that makes it alright I guess. I mean in a day he must earn maybe 0.1% of what one of those Salvatore Ferragamo Leather Derby Shoes that he shines costs.
But the President is (Half) Black you guys. All that racism is in the past.
We’re all equals now. That’s why after the Civil Rights Movement and The Black Power Movement and Colin Powell and Condelezza Rice and Brown Versus the Board of Education and the past FIFTY FIVE F.CKING YEARS……he’s still shining shoes.
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What I find really inspiring is the multiracial nature of the Black Spring – the extent to which non-black youth are identifying with black oppression and taking to the streets to demand reform.
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@Alita
THIS!
Amen!!!
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@ Kartoffel
To me it seems pretty clear-cut: they do not want the police to get away with murder. Most protests centre on demanding the arrest of officers who have killed someone under suspicious circumstances.
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@ Jefe
I do not think we have to wait for a perfect victim. Or, at least, the Black Spring, unlike Martin Luther King, is not waiting for one.
On my four-point scale of perfect victimhood, Tamir Rice only scores a two. He had two strikes against him: he was Black and was killed by police.
Freddie Gray, gloriously, scored a zero. I say “gloriously” because people are protesting anyway.
The trouble with the perfect victimhood thing, like respectability politics and much of the old civil rights movement, is that it allows Whites to value Black lives conditionally – which is the very thing that lies at the heart of racism!
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@ AlitaRegina
“I don’t know if people notice or care but the AHA is now pushing psychotropic drugging on medicaid/medicare recipients and on the poor. Many of whom, since Roe Vs Wade was struck down, are in foster care:”
How is this on-topic?
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@abagond
Lack of human rights.
Aren’t children human beings? I don’t think wards of the state are property of the state. Do you? Because I thought we lived in a republic and not some kind of weird capitalist dictatorship.
Unless we’re agreeing that orphaned, mostly black and brown children have no rights anymore, because no one sees them, that law that somebody voted to pass, that is being implemented in a manner that is in practice depriving low income people, orphaned children, and women of their basic human rights and in principle can be applied to everyone is something people should be trying to get repealed or amended.
And as far as any Black Spring Protest goes Black People have to admit that the POTUS and a lot of what we’re protesting comes from the Federal Government, they passed AHA and Mental Health Parity, not the State Legislature. A lot of States are fighting it, because of things like that.
And if we’re protesting the government what for? Rights are inalienable. they’re not given so they can’t be taken away. But they do have to be defended and protected. Otherwise other people take them. But who exactly are those other people trying to take away our rights? It’s not just the police and the state legislature.
I saw it’s the whole entire Government. From the top down. As an institution. It’s not a few bad apples. It’s the whole tree. It’s all of the middle and upper classes.
Going by powers. even with separation, the Obama Administration is responsible for most of what Black Spring would be protesting. It was here before him but his administration has actively made it worse by their direct or indirect actions, lets be real about it.
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To me it seems pretty clear-cut: they do not want the police to get away with murder. Most protests centre on demanding the arrest of officers who have killed someone under suspicious circumstances.
It’s a shame that American Citizens don’t have some higher authority, like a Federal Governmentto enforce the protection of human rights.
Oh wait, we do. And they told us:
“Stop Complaining.”
And they called us thugs when we protested the execution without trial of American Citizens who happen to be black men. Like that….Federal Executive….who told us to stop complaining about that. And isn’t doing sh.t about it.
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The FBI bombs our homes from the air (MOVE) and shoots up our homes and kills our children in drug raids. It takes our children away from us when refuse to inject them poisons that permanently disable them by calling looking out for our children’s welfare abuse. It warehouse those children and forcibly drugs them and indoctrinated them to be violent criminals.Our local police, whose salaries we pay in taxes, executes us without trial and goes unpunished, at our expense.
The Government DOES need to step down.
WTF do we have a President for exactly? Or elected officials period? It’s not like we can set up out own courts and convict these people ourselves. The only government that can prosecute local and state officials is the Federal Government. And only a Federal Prosecutor can bring charges. You can press them but you can’t force a Federal Prosecutor to try anyone.
To date no Federal Prosecutor, those same Feds that raid our homes for drugs, and shoot and kill our children and that constantly sentence civilians with felonies for victim less crimes like dug possession. Those same Federal Authorities are ALLOWING these Police to walk free.
I don’t expect any state or local authority to convict it’s own employees. That’s naive. I do expect the Federal Government to protect the constitutional rights of ALL it’s citizens. That’s what the f.ck I, WE ALL, pay it to do.That’s what it takes 0.7% of my income to do.
I don’t pay income taxes for silence, excuses, criticism and to be ignored.
And rights are inalienable. That’s in our Declaration of Independence .
People need to stop asking for their rights to be respected because that’s the reason they getting violated in the first place. Because you’re asking.
You don’t ask for you rights. You defend and protect them or they get taken from you. And our right to vote has been taken away, rights to personal autonomy has been taken away. One by one.
The Supreme Court didn’t ask us if we wanted the Voted Rights Act struck down did they? H.ll no. They just took it away. And then gave gay people the constitutional right to marry at the same time.
Why would they strike down one minority right but grant another? Because gay people’s right to marry is more important than me right to live and be a citizen of America. But apparently they do because that’s the decision they made.
They can stop this. They don’t want to. They’re perpetuating it.
Yes. The WHOLE Government.
Stop asking them for help, they’re the problem.
Fight them. While we all still can.
F.ck a protest. You protest bad treatment or a bad decision. You don’t protest indiscriminate murder, you fight it. Or you get killed.
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I’ll give you an example of what I’m talking about. Right:
In that Eric Garner video, there are about four policemen.
I see maybe a hundred black people watching what’s going on.
I see them watch four white police officer’s attack and strangle a man. And they “protest” but they don’t defend themselves.
WAIT.
All they could have done to stop that, if they were being proactive instead of reactive, because that officer had several lawsuits and Federal Complaints against him for sexually assaulting black men. Including Eric Garner, he allegedly made Garner strip in the street, and touched his testicles.That was in the complaint Garner made.
All they could have done was simply restrained Officer Palatino and the rest of them and disarmed them. They all could have done it. They outnumbered them. They could have all simply broken that fight up and Eric Garner and those policemen would both be alive.
That’s how people who don’t have to ask for their rights, like the Black Panthers, think and would have handled the situation. The police never would have even tried that sh.t on the South Side of Chicago, or a trailer park in Dekalb Illinois because of one simple reason: We Don’t Play That Sh.t.
We are not victims unless we let ourselves be. No one had to die that day. Or any of those days.
We can stop them from killing us ourselves. Those police would have been pissed off and they would have been angry, maybe they would have retaliated somehow but they would have respected us enough not to roll up in our neighbohoods and try some bullsh.t like that again.
Even the willingness not to have your rights violated is enough to make an oppressor step off. You don’t have to have weapons. You don’t have to have a majority, you just have to be willing to refuse to accept being treated like an animal.
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How about instead of useless marching we try that?
How about instead of making cellphone videos, and saying black lives, we stop making people martyr themselves since that’s clearly not working, and we simply protect and defend each other?
We stand together and say, “You will not hurt this member of our community.”
Let’s walk each other home at night. In groups of five. Lets walk around and patrol our own neighborhoods with a law book.
I know you’re going to say, “If the we try to disarm the police for acting unlawfully, one of us might get shot.” Well that’s redundant because we’re being shot when we just stand back and do nothing anyway.
We might as well do something instead of asking these people who don’t respect our rights to protect our rights.
Maybe we should try it. I did and I was all by myself so…. hundreds of people have no excuse not to.
When I see people fighting I always try to break it up. So that no one gets hurt unnecessarily. I realize that I’m risking getting hurt myself but I’m risking catching a stray blow just by being a bystander anyway. Again that’s redundant.
Stop being cowards.
If you accept their authority and appeal to it, even when it’s clearly being abused, you’re accepting being abused.
Stop it. Seriously. WTF is wrong with all of you? Do you like being treated this way?
If you don’t like it then do something about it. Stop relying on these other people to do things you should be doing yourself.
I’m tired of doing all this by myself. It’s embarrassing.
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Racist people are acting out of fear. And in the heat of the moment, tempers flare, and guns get drawn. Irresistible actions happen. So slow the process down. Separate the two parties. Disarm them.
Take the bullets out of the gun, take the pepper spray and the tazer and give them back to the sheriff.
Make a citizens arrest if they refuse to comply with respecting that suspects rights. Restrain whoever the offending officer, and then march them over to the State Prosecutors office and make a Felony Assault Complaint.
Even if this happens just once. It will make a difference I guarantee you. More than this protesting bullsh.t.
See? I’m not complaining or criticizing. I’m critiquing and suggesting solutions.
Happy Obama? That’s more than your Soft Shoeing Uncle Tom a.s ever did.
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Didn’t none of yall have relatives who actually grew up with the Black Panthers?
Why do people think Miranda Rights are even read at all?
You got the Black Panthers to thank for that. When police arrested people back in the day, they had a paddy wagon. A Paddy Wagon was like a black site where police simply grabbed men, took them to secluded location and did whatever they wanted to them.
One of my uncles described a paddy wagon to me. He got put in one when he was twelve years old and his was beaten so badly his tailbone was fractured. They stomped on him. One of my white friends fathers got gang raped by police in a Paddy Wagon when he was thirteen.
The Black Panthers would do patrols in neighborhoods, with a registered 38 and a law book, and they would walk up to police and simply observe and intervene. One of my cousins was a Black Panther.
They would ask things like:
“What is this man suspected of doing?”
“Is he under arrest?’
“Have you advised him of his right to remain silent?
May we accompany you to the precinct to make sure these proceedings remain lawful and this man is not harmed.”
They never never had to use the 38 pistols to shoot anyone and no one got hurt.
There’s a lot of non lethal, non painful weapons like (temporarily)blinding lights that would stop an attack.
Let all that marinate. I’m out.
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@ Abagond
“To me it seems pretty clear-cut: they do not want the police to get away with murder. Most protests centre on demanding the arrest of officers who have killed someone under suspicious circumstances.”
The problem is that even in a completly non-racist country black men would be shot by police from time to time and not all of them would be prosecuted. Any success of the protest in this regard can only be seen satistically in hinsight. There is nothing the government can do to make the protesters go home. like passing legislation or something comparable. That’s why they won’t do anything. And the protests will die down.
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I like that; “That store owner wasn’t a Victim, he was a capitalist”.
But yeah; if any real change is to be done it’ll be done by voting on a local level and people becoming prosecutors and such that don’t sell out.
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@ Peanut and The Pragmatist and lkeke35lkeke35
You feel me though right? Let it marinate. And pass it around.
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@peanut
I beg your pardon?
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^^^^^
I normally don’t take notice of the white overseering trolls because it’s beneath me but d.mn. I mean if Abagond really wants to talk about people being off topic case and point.
I might be convoluted( for Americans because they oversimplify everything) but the sad thing is when people like this jump into our discussions and wave their hands around black people will actually engage them.
Because some of us really want white attention and approval. It’s not about fixing a broken violent oppressive system for them so much as it’s about selfishly gaining access to that system for themselves.
That’s all these protests are about. If people really wanted these murders stopped, they would be more proactive, not jumping up and down and crying in public to get people who clearly don’t give a d.mn to pay attention to our plight. As if that will make it better and not worse by giving them more power than they already have.
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@ Kevin Orff: Comments deleted for being off topic.
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@ Pumpkin
I believe Kiki means “Princess of North Sudan”.
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This Black Spring is a good idea on one end but is the same old nothing on the other. Nothing will change. It is probably a controlled movement just like Occupy Wall Street.
We (black Americans) seem to get most upset when non blacks or cops kill us. Reality is we kill each other off more than the police do.
We have to change our behaviors as well.
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@ Alita
Comment deleted for using the N-word.
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@allegraof the 80’s
Almost 90% of the time a White person is murdered he or she will be murdered by another White person. So what’s your point? Black people killing one another isn’t special Black behavior. It’s human behavior. Humans murder their neighbors. The only difference is White people coined a phrase for when Blacks do it. It’s called “Black on Black crime ” and like everything that Blacks do it is turned into a pathology and covered EXHAUSTIVELY by media and set apart from the nature of the rest of humanity as if it’s somehow special and a sign of Black’s numerous problems that justify White’s deadyl, disparate and extreme treatment of Blacks:
Walking to get skittles : death. Selling untaxed cigarettes:death. Lumbering away for your life: death. Asking to get your license and being given permission to do so: death. Running from the police even though it is not a crime: death. And Blacks like you will co-sign because you believe Black people as a whole are more violent as evidenced by “Black on Black crime”. Until that “pathology” (That EVERY SO CALLED RACIAL GROUP SUFFERS FROM) stops Blacks can’t complain about being shot down like dogs in the streets by police. Really?
Check out this video: Two people following the law and exercising their rights as American citizens; one White one Black. Guess which one almost gets killed and winds up arrested? But we shouldn’t worry about this until no other Black person is killed by another Black person…EVER…
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA)
The funny part is Armed White men are more likely to walk in movies houses, restaurants and school campuses and mowe everyone in sight down, but the one who has been shown to most likely commit such a crime is simply questioned calmly about walking around with a loaded weapon, whereas the other one almost gets killed NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!
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There are similarities and differences in the situations of the oppressed globally. At the end of the day we all face the same 1% who wants to oppress us all.
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@ Peanut
I agree with everything you said.
I think people just need to either talk or take action against the people that are actually causing whatever their problem is. The Black Community did it before on it’s own and that’s the reason the Black Panther Party for Defense was formed was because non violent protests weren’t working or and our communities were getting terrorized.
Running, ducking, dodging, begging, pleading isn’t and never has, done anything. But this is the age we live in and that’s why I got frustrated with the same n..gas that complain every day but never actually want to do anything.
And with Eric Garner too, there’s only one person standing up for their rights and a hundred people standing there watching him and they did nothing to help him. I think people are waking up to reality now and this needs to be happening more often:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/nypd-officers-attempt-to-arrest-14-year-old-girl-community-doesnt-allow-it_052015
Prevention is the best cure and if we hadn’t abandoned each other to the ghettos and the prisons and stuck together as a group in real life we wouldn’t be getting attacked like this. Predators only go after the sick, old and newborn and our community still can’t move past old class/shade/color divisions, we have a sickening narcissism in the young and the very old. Young people haven’t had their wake up call and old people stopped caring about what happens to the generation who live after them.
It’s doable. I did when I was alone and had no help from anyone so it can be figured out but people want to matyr and flagellate themselves. So until people start waking up to the reality and I gurantee they will only do it when it’s too late, I’ll be elsewhere. Because I’m honestly done with this public martyrdom, self flagellation, bullsh.t it’s going to get a lot more of us killed when they turn the guns on those crowds of protesters.
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If everybody was doing this people wouldn’t be killing us:
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/nypd-officers-attempt-to-arrest-14-year-old-girl-community-doesnt-allow-it_052015
And notice how the person speaking out to the officers is a woman. And the person standing in the background is a woman. A woman and a little girl against two armed policemen.
That’s why when black men want to complain about black women I just close my ears because black women are the only holding this community together most days. Notice the man is in the background recording while the woman defends the children.
I love the way that girl defended herself.
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That’s why the Black Panthers said no justice no peace. That officer tried to grab the fourteen year old girl when she tried to get his badge number and that whole poor inner city GHETTO community all stood together and told him to get out of their neighborhood. And then he left. Like the b..ch n..ga he was.
Just be strong and remember who you are and they can never defeat you.
Power to the people. Those people took their power back. And if the poorest can do it nobody else has any excuse not to.
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Around 6:20 the officer jumps out of his vehicle and charges towards one of the young girls who was calmly explaining to him that she had not done anything wrong. She continues to back away and witnesses, women and children, jump right in – trying to get between the teenager and the plain-clothed officer trying to snatch her.
At 7:11 the officer makes another move to grab the young girl and a woman jumps in and rips her away from his grasp, as witnesses scream for the officers to go home.
After successfully separating the officers from the children, one of the (superhero) women screams at the officers.
“You know you’re doing wrong! GO HOME!”
In one of the most shocking moments we have seen, the officers get in their unmarked car and leave.
With so many children dying at the hands of police, it is more important than ever to defend the youth.
– See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/nypd-officers-attempt-to-arrest-14-year-old-girl-community-doesnt-allow-it_052015#sthash.NjZBfZeO.dpuf
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@ AlitaRegina
Your Link: Wow.
Nice find.
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@King
You’re Welcome. And I’ve seen people in my neighborhood do this too.The CPD are scared to go on the South Side. I always try to provide references so people know that Black Power is Real Power and it’s the Power nobody can withstand.
All it starts with us working together and speaking up for ourselves. And no one has to get hurt or put their lives in danger.
I’ve lived this and I’ve seen this and I was lucky enough to find a record of it today. And it made you feel so good to see that didn’t it?
Power to the People. 😀
And please share that video.
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Let Robin Harris, another Chicagoan like myself, show you people from Chicago Talk To the Police
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGyRLQ2wNQ)
Police: Hey you, where are you going?
RH: I’m going to mind my f.cking buisness that’s why I’m going.
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^^^^^
Robin Harris handled that situation exactly like one of my Uncles would have XD
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Abagond! I need your help! I will be away from my usual residence for a very long time, and am currently local, as can be seen from my IP address. But in light of recent, “ahem”, events…. I not very optimistic about my safety.
Now, the natives (and I do NOT mean the Latins) have been rather friendly, but what do I do if I am confronted by a Savage? I hear that they are easy to find due to their distinctive blue markings but what if one confronts me directly? Do I run? Pull out my smartphone and start tweeting? Use my Krav Maga?
It woud be good if you could write up an articleabout how to deal with the both the wily natives and the vicious savages.
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@ Satanforce
A post on what to do if you are stopped by the police is an excellent idea. Thank you.
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I am dead serious about this. I must the train for tramsportation, and the BART police are notoriously poorly trained (see the Fruitvale incident).
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@AlitaRegina..words cannot say how much I love, luv, love to hear your on point and always enlightening posts on here-makes my day, for reaL!!! 😀
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@ satanforce
I will do post on it for Monday.
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@Lord of Mirkwood
I think there are many things that Alita has said that I agree with and she is on point about, but I just don’t think she takes criticism very well and that can be seen on other threads aside from Genghis Khan.
For some disagreeing on one thing means you disagree with them as a whole.
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@ Lord of Mirkwood
I agree with Sharina. She does not know how to carry on a civil, honest discussion with someone who disagrees with her. It is a waste of time arguing with her.
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@Kiwi
Though the full video is availablefor free, Iwill still by that DVD.
@Abagond
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^Beware, that the Devil doth value a prideful heart above all other vices!
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People have simply had enough! I don’t understand why anybody thinks it’s ok for unarmed citizens to be killed by the police, especially when they kill and they are not punished for their corruption. Why are people surprised that citizens protest against an oppressive system? As for high crime rates among black communities, this is what institutional racism results in. Protesting an oppressive system that disproportionately disadvantages the marginalized group. Crime is a symptom of oppression as well as political and economic oppression against marginalized people. Ferguson, New York, Baltimore, and Cleveland are “Black Spring emerging communities and i feel this will spread all over the country. Hold racist law enforcement accountable for their corruption. A majority of white Americans and some coonish black people as well beleive that most black people like being poor and are too lazy to work and like living in squalor off of government subsides that shrink every year, commit crimes for fun, hate hate cops just because they are incorrigible criminals.
I don’t think people understand how institutional racism works starting from the beginning of our country still lingers and feeds into the vicious downward spiral we see today and when the oppressed people try to rise up and speak out they label those people animals and thugs. Because they expect traditionally poor people, from uneducated backgrounds to make educated decisions on complex issues they don’t know how to tackle. But yet we still hear we are living in a post racial America and everybody is equal. I call bull***it on that. I don’t blame all of white America, i see a few whites protesting with the black people much respect to them that are allies in the fight. But those who are criticizing and judging the people who are marching for their liberation as thugs and animals because they are not affected by this oppressive system and those so called new blacks who need to buy a clue, it’s them that need to educate themselves and do some reflection of how their white privilege makes them complicit in this oppression as well.
Occupying forces in black communities nned to leave the communities and let the people decide what they need. Elevating the truth of the corruption of law enforcement. People need the economic resources to thrive and survive.
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^^^Judging and criticizing the protesters and labeling them animals and thugs because they are not directly affected by this oppressive system.
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@ Satanforce
#McKinney is blowing up. So it will be McKinney for Monday (or maybe later tonight) and the post after that will be “What do to if you are stopped by the police”.
https://twitter.com/hashtag/McKinney
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Don’t forget Barstow.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/body-cam-video-catches-barstow-cops-slamming-black-pregnant-woman-to-ground-letting-white-woman-go-free
/http://hiphopwired.com/2015/05/28/barstow-cops-slam-pregnant-black-woman-ground/
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Wow! Is it right to assume that the cop was Asian accompanied by a Latino officer (and later a white one)?
Is there any investigation of the ACLU charges against the Barstow PD?
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@Mz. Nikita
I see you! 😀
Nothing but love for you and people like you, I’m very glad to know like minds exist. Or even unalike minds, long as people are still thinking and speaking up.
All my love
❤
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/nypd-officers-attempt-to-arrest-14-year-old-girl-community-doesnt-allow-it_052015
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I notice how the media picks and chooses what kind of resistance to focus on. You find videos like that one on Youtube but the media purposefully focuses on violent resistance like rioting in order to give this impression that active resistance to police brutality and suppression is only what angry violent people do.
And there you see the truth, resistance to police brutality is what a concerned loving community does when one of its vulnerable members is being threatened and attacked. That’s why that cop’s partner just stood back until he calmed down and gave up trying to hassle the teenager and the toddler. I’ve seen cops do this too, one of them will get turnt up and the other one will just stand back in order to not implicate themselves in whatever the angry one is doing.
That’s why past that site and on places like here and on the deep web you’ll rarely see that kind of thing but it does happen and it does work.
I hate the defeatist attitude some people take to real life anti racism. They give up before they start and they just take it. They’ll complain in private but never in public because they’re too afraid to stand up to the aggressors.
Like if people actually try, instead of just talking about it and being internet warriors it DOES make a difference. And I’ve had numerous conversations IRL and online with people who simply accept things like this such as: The MAN recording who just watched…the women and children fighting the policeman and didn’t lift a finger to help.
I don’t know why this spirit left the black community and the popular consciousness but now is really not the time to be acting like punks. Thats why I can’t f.ck with middle to upper class black people who believe in respectability politics which is basically just being subservient and appeasing people who oppress us. All the women in that video are exactly the kind of women, inner city working class poor/heavyset/single mothers, that the well to do in our community disparage and ridicule but when it comes down to it, those inner city low income working class poor/heavyset/single mothers are the only ones fighting police brutality and racial oppression on a day to day basis while the rest of the black community( *cough* MEN *cough cough*) just stands back and watches the show.
Being angry and turnt up is really what saves your life at times. IDGAF what anybody says, all those Angry Black B.tches and Single Low Income Mothers are the saviors of our race. Left up to everybody else we’d all be extinct.
And its messed up that a site that mostly caters to the White American Libetarian Right had to showcase that but that’s just my thoughts on it.
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Community Solidarity too is something I respect in regards to the Hasidic Jewish community, which is why a lot of people don’t like them. And I don’t even agree with a lot of what they do, especially the way they’ve taken over and dismantled much of Brooklyn’s school system and real estate, I just enjoy the way they always stick together.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEKhgBye5K0)
http://nymag.com/news/features/east-ramapo-hasidim-2013-4/index5.html
No outsiders are going to come in and turn them against each other. NI wish the black community had something like that along racial lines because we really need it. I read that when members of the Hasidic Jewish Community member can’t afford their own grocery bills, store owners within that community will let them buy groceries on credit or more well to do community members will pay their bills off for them.
Meanwhile…. in the black community Black men are getting shot after running from the police because they had back child support. I don’t agree with that man being killed but…I seriously don’t get all these excuses black men tend to make for not living up to their responsibilities in regards to their children.That would actually be a good place to start in terms of resistance and community organization.
Certain churches in the black community do pantries and community outreach but organization in the Black Community never seems to go beyond rhetoric a lot of the time, and its just not enough any more. The President being the biggest purveyor of that rhetoric that he never follows up with actual policy initiative or actions. ANd he’s never held accountable for it either because people wanted their token representative, never mind that he doesn’t actually represent our interests, and if they’ll turn a blind eye to everything else.
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@ AlitaRegina,
Bloody hell you talk a lot! But I like what what you said. I’m following you.
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@1tawnystranger
Guilty as charged But this is built up from years of seeing non reactions or suppressed reactions to all kinds of racism from Black People outside the inner city, the Eric Garner murder being the most recent thing that just….didn’t sit right with me at all.
This is just me having no f..ks at all to give at this point because…if I never see another televised lynching again for the rest of my life that will be too soon.
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[…] The Black Spring (2014- ) is the name some give to the current protests in the US by Blacks and others, especially those against police brutality.It gets its name from how it is oddly like the Arab Spring of 2011 in Egypt and elsewhere:Lack of human rights.High rates of poverty and unemployment that the government is doing little about.Use of Twitter and street protests.The government answering legitimate demands with a police crackdown. Go back to Step #1.There is a difference, though: in the US the protesters in Egypt were seen asheroes, while protesters in the US are ignored or called “thugs”, even by a Black president.I date the beginning of the Black Spring to Ferguson in 2014. There were protests before that, like for Rekia Boyd and Kimani Gray, and huge ones for Trayvon Martin. Continue reading… […]
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