Mariah Carey has been one of the best-selling singers in America ever since her very first song, “Visions of Love”, in 1990. But through all that time she has been dogged by questions about her race. In 2006 Sandra Bernhard on “The View” said that Carey is only black when it helps her to sell music.
Here is what Carey told JET magazine in 1999:
Ethnically, I’m a person of mixed race. My father’s mother was African-American. His father was from Venezuela. My mother is Irish. I see myself as a person of color who happens to be mixed with a lot of things… No matter what you say, when someone asks you the question ‘What are you?’ and you say ‘Black’ and you look mixed, they’re going to ask what you’re mixed with. That’s what always happens.
She sees this sort of questioning as racist:
What I find racist and unfair is that if someone’s half Chinese and half Italian, that’s two different races, why are they not forced to constantly define what they are? When it comes to a Black and a White thing, people are up in arms.
So far as I know she has never hid her background from the press. Soon after her second song hit number one in late 1990, she told the press, “My father is black and Venezuelan. My mother Irish and an opera singer. I am me.”
Her recording company, Columbia Records, however, was not so forthright. In person she clearly looks part black. Lisa Jones of the Village Voice said she comes across “quite clearly, as a rainbow baby of African descent, skin toasted almond and hair light brown.” But she is close enough to white that with the right lighting she can be made to look white.
And when she came out she did seem white. Nelson George called her “a white girl who can sing”. I remember thinking the same thing. Others said she was a white Whitney Houston. Given all the money Columbia had put into pushing Carey it was probably no accident.
If Mariah Carey had first been seen as black then there was a good chance that “Visions of Love”, an R&B song, would have only been played on black radio stations. Few whites would have bought it and Columbia would have made far less money.
It was not just the way she looked, it was her music too. The music she wanted to do – and later did do – was more in an R&B and hip hop direction. But in the early years producers made sure it was more “mainstream”, meaning white.
But strangely, while her music has become blacker and she is now widely regarded as black, her looks have become whiter. Her hair is lighter and straighter and her nose is much more pointed and narrow than before.
She has called herself a person of mixed race, a person of colour, but does she ever publicly call herself just black?
See also:
- biracial
- One Drop Rule
- The blackness of:
- The Wigger Fallacy




Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 14:18:55
A few years ago, Mariah appeared on the Wendy Williams show. When Wendy referred to her as a “black girl”, Mariah happily agreed with that coinage. So, there’s one instance of herself calling herself black. Also, in Jermaine Dupri’s autobiography, he said that Carey “sees herself as a black woman”.
I agree, she has become “whiter”-looking in later years. Jennifer Lopez and Beyonce Knowles are similar in that respect as well. Once they reached a level of mainstream visibility, the whiter they started looking. Compare and constrast photos of both ladies at the beginning of their careers to now, and you’ll see some notable differences. I wonder if it’s coincidental.
Also, I see, she’s also noticed the same disparity in reaction towards black/white offspring and white/non-black offspring.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 14:33:34
yeah, definitely the boobs and nose have been revamped to better suit bland, mainstream, barbie-doll fantasies.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 14:34:59
oops, sorry, wrong link.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 15:28:27
I know. Society has always make a big stink over famous multiracials of Black/nonBlack ancestry. Witness the constant questioning of Tiger Woods, Paula Abdul, Vanity, Prince(yes, Prince!), Barack Obama, Mariah Carey, Lani Guinier, and Halle Berry by mainstream media and society over the past 20 years.
Mariah Carey has every right to claim all parts of herself and to be proud of who she really is instead of compartamentalize them in order to satisfy narrow-minded bigots in society.
No other ethnic group in America that is scrutinized and analyzed than Blacks and people of partial Black ancestry. When will this insanity end?
La Reyna
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 20:56:12
Paula Abdul has no known black ancestry. Her father is a Syrian Jew who came to America via Brazil, and her mother is also Jewish.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 21:28:36
i am not black – so I am only an outside observer. But if asked i would say I am an american of scottish, german and american indian decent. I never understood why its one or the other if your part black…why cant you be proud of all your heritage.
If my brother-in-law is asked – he says he is black…even though his mother is latin.
My coworker (who is “black”) says my bro-in-law is not black – because he is not 100%.
You bring this down to my niece (who is like Mariah Carey (.25 black, .25 latin and .25 german and .25 other) who for some people, that little bit of black makes up her whole idenity. But when my sister took her too a black hair salon for assistance (my sisters and my hair is very straight and oily where as beccas here was getting dried out and frizzing up) the message given to my sister was she wasnt black enough. My sister looks to her husbands aunties to help rebecca with her black american culture – unless its the black folks art displays and such that my sister and I take her too.
And to Le Reynas point – most people dont know that Linda Carter (wonder women) and Catherine Bach (Daisy Duke) where of mixed race…latin and caucasin…but still their mixed heritage was downplayed and i bet most people think they were white.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 21:50:12
Davida,
“Latin” isn’t a race. As I stated in another post, Carey’s father was a black American with a Venezeluean grandparent who was also black. The term “Latino” applies to nationality, not race. I don’t blame you for being confused. the U.S. media and society manipulates the term “Latino/Hispanic” to make it seem like another “race” (i.e. “black”, “white”, Asian). IMO, all this shows is why all these racial labels should cease, but in this country, that’s probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 22:15:50
Tiger Woods, Paula Abdul, Vanity, Prince(yes, Prince!), Barack Obama, Mariah Carey, Lani Guinier, and Halle Berry
A fitting company for the President-anoint, I must say. A bunch of vapid celebrities and a tenured radical/racial quota advocate.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 22:50:14
I have said some unkind things about Tiger Woods, but I would not call him vapid.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 22:59:06
mynameismyname: I kind of thought she must have said she was black at some point. Thanks for the Wendy Williams reference.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 22:59:45
someone awful: thanks for your awful link. Those are good before and after pictures.
Fri 21 Nov 2008 at 23:02:30
Right, Latin is no more a race than “American” is and for the same reason. Just like Americans come in different colours, so do Latin or Hispanic people.
Sat 22 Nov 2008 at 00:47:25
Latin is a mix of either Indian(asian) and Spaniards…or in some places Spainards and people of african decent…if you call a person of african decent from cuba a “black” person…they get very upset.
At some point this gets all very confusing and crazy. I used the term Latin because I wasnt sure where her family came from. I guess I could have said they are of white and indian(asian) mix now commonly know as latino. Its like people with hyphenated names…where does it all end.
Descriptions on some level are necessary. If I ask a friend to meet someone they have never mett at the airport…and I can not discribe this person as a short brown haired white girl…or a tall grey haired black man (i.e. dark skin tone)…it gets difficult.
Sat 22 Nov 2008 at 14:48:47
Latinos are mix of native Indian which is Taino, Arawak, Caribs. Portuguese, African, Spanish, French, Dutch and yes Asian but it’s a very small %. It’s so small I doubt it’s even detectable if you we’re to trace a number of Latinos ancestry.
Sat 22 Nov 2008 at 18:26:23
Davida … Latinos are a mixture of mainly African, Spanish (white Spainards), and Indian blood … in most places. I think that most Latinos have more African blood than Indian though. I could be wrong.
Sun 23 Nov 2008 at 03:53:04
Many Latinos from in and near the Caribbean and Brazil are black or part black. Colombia, for example, has plenty of blacks. But in other places, like Mexico or Argentina, it is less common.
Sun 23 Nov 2008 at 19:15:35
I like quite a bit of Mariah’s music, but I’d rather just listen to it than watch the videos that come with it these days, because when I see them it saddens me to see what shes done to herself to look more “mainstream”.
Only a few years ago did I realise Mariah was part black, beforehand I considered her, like you said a “white girl that can sing”…I just assumed she was on of those white singers who did “blue eyed soul”. In my opinion,she only looked part black when she first came out before all the surgery, skin bleach and implants…
Thanks for writing this, I enjoy reading the things you post
Sun 23 Nov 2008 at 22:46:01
Billie Walker,
I agree with that so much. I think her videos nowadays are trash. I think her music has pretty much lost most of the depth that it started out with early in her career.
Mon 24 Nov 2008 at 00:11:04
i tend to expect biracial or mixed race people (black/white) to identify with or as black for socio-political reasons… but should they have to? i am black, though ‘technically’ mixed race. i also have mixed race daughters… one obviously brown, the other a bit like mariah’s colouring… i hope they will always identify with their black heritage, but can’t/wouldn’t deny them their white roots too…
Mon 24 Nov 2008 at 00:21:59
I agree: her videos these days are painful to watch!
Mon 24 Nov 2008 at 23:51:29
The Latino/Hispanic classification can be clarified by linking it to ALL peoples who originate from a Latin American country (eg. Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Argentina, Chile, Columbia, etc.). These countries all share a cultural ancestry that is made up mainly of A MIX OF Spanish/African and Native RACES/CULTURES. What has ALWAYS bothered me as a Hispanic person of mixed African/Spanish/West Indian descent, is how those who use RACIST,IGNORANT,and OUTDATED classifications(like the One Drop Rule), try to DEFINE AWAY my Hispanic identity (soley because of my African ancestry) AS BEING ONLY BLACK and ONLY ALLOW Hispanics of MIXED Native/Spanish or other NON-AFRICAN ancestry to identify themselves as JUST HISPANIC.
Tue 25 Nov 2008 at 00:43:10
That is because in the English-speaking world race is seen as having a deeper effect on you than language, culture, religion, wealth or education. It is a racist way of looking at you, but then these people are racists!
Tue 25 Nov 2008 at 18:30:16
if you were creating a system, for america, to classify people for health care systems, identification purposes etc…What would you use?
You need to locate a specific purpose. What do you use to define this person?
Wed 26 Nov 2008 at 15:38:41
Nonserviam,
If you do not have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.
Thu 27 Nov 2008 at 03:17:49
i don’t understand why everyone is so concerned about mariah carey’s level of blackness.??? abagond–are you trying to promote racism on this website? i don’t understand what you are trying to get out of a lot of your blogs… not criticising, just don’t get your motives in some of your topics.
Fri 28 Nov 2008 at 16:50:02
To Phaecat,
Abagond isn’t promoting racism. He’s only making aware of what American society really think on race and racial identity. You should know by now that it is mainstream media and society that is putting Mariah, Jennifer Beals, Tiger Woods, Barack Obama, Vin Diesel, etc., into narrow boxes, i.e. “Black” and Black alone, not acknowledging the multiracial strains of Americans.
American has a long history of denying racial/ethnic hybridity, preferring instead to place people in monochromatic categories and want them to stay in it until the day the die. That’s a travesty and I’m glad Abagond is addressing it instead of sweeping it under the rug.
Steph(La Reyna)
Thu 4 Dec 2008 at 23:32:26
la reyna,
thanks for your reply, la reyna, and i understand your point and completely agree that these issues need to be addressed. it is sad that society is at the point where
we need a forum to discuss and defend such issues. i just think this should be addressed in a productive, succintly enough manner to get these very important points across. i think some people might not understand this website or take it seriously enough, that’s all. i am a ethnic lesbian, so i understand these issues first hand as well. i live in california and am outraged that prop 8 passed here, so i understand the need to get voices heard but the issues must be specific and focused, and get down to issues at hand… thanks for your reply and i do appreciate that abagond is bring issues to the table. it is greatly needed.
phaecat
Tue 23 Jun 2009 at 20:01:39
abagond are you saying that she should call herself black despite the fact that she has been treated more as a mixed race or white women by the way her looks have been interpreted by people. people often identify in a certain way because of how people see them as well as how they see themselves.
It is more understandable that a mixed race person who is darker like halle berry identifies as black because she has probably been treated as a black women or evan a women of colour more often than mariah carey has been.
I can see why brown skinned biracial people may identify as black. but once it starts getting closer to 1/4 black like mariah carey, wentworth miller and adriana lima surely that can’t be expected from them? mariah carey identfies with the black community and is not the type to be up in arms if someone calls her black or white, she doesn’t really care. but sees herself as mixed nonetheless.
Wed 24 Jun 2009 at 00:49:10
^
Mariah is actually more like 1/2 black. Not a 1/4.
What would you make of black Americans (with two ‘black’ parents) who are phenotypically white yet identify as black?
Wed 24 Jun 2009 at 10:11:04
she isn’t half black, i don’t know why people keep saying that.people wanted to also claim that wentworth miller is half black-he is 1/4 lebanese, 1/4 black & half white.Mariah Carey has said before in british pride magazine that people mis-quote her dad as black venezualan when in fact he is black & other things. those were her own words. she has less than half black in her. her looks are also more typical of people that are 1/4 black.
what do i think of people that come out looking whiter but have two parents who are black. i think that it makes sense of they say they are black, but there will probably also be problems with identity if they keep getting the are you mixed? questions.
Wed 24 Jun 2009 at 10:36:54
So, if it makes sense for someone who is “whiter looking” with two black-identified parents to identify as black, why not for someone like Mariah, who has one black parent but appears racially ambigious?
If someone is Italian and German, yet appears more Italian, is it wrong if they identify as German? Or at least, identify as that?
Again, Mariah’s father was an African American. From Alabama, at that. I’ve seen some of her black relatives. Trust me, if you saw them (or her siblings), you wouldn’t doubt or question her blackness. In her own words, “My father was black, and slightly Venezuelean.” And she found out that the Venezuelean grandparent on one side was also black.
This whole discourse goes to show you how VISUAL the whole social concept of “race” is. If Mariah looked more like her siblings or cousins, this article on this website wouldn’t even exist.
Thu 2 Jul 2009 at 02:21:29
Does it really matter what “race” she is. The bottom line is that she is MULTI-racial. She like many is also MULTI-ethnic. The American society has a deeply embeded desire to classify all peoples in the terms of black and white. What is even more disturbing is that a negative connatation is always connected if african desent is part of the multi-ethnic equation. If she does not identify with her african roots then she is denying her heritage and blacks look at her negativly. If she identifies with her african roots then whites are less likely to accecpt her. This is uniquely American quality. As a person of Spanish/African/Caribe & Iroquis Indian desent who hails from Puerto Rico can say first hand that people are connected more by culture than racial desent. I have relatives that for all intents and purposes appear white (fair skinned, blond & blue eyed) and others that are as dark as night with kinky or tightly curled hair and everthin im between. But we all identify as Puerto Rican b/c of our culture. So Mariah is what ever culture she identifies w/ most. Last I looked …..seemed to be just plain old American!