The hate crime rate is the number of hate crimes per million committed against a given race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or other such group. Hate crimes are committed against someone because of the group they belong to. Most crimes, like robbing banks or selling drugs, are not like that.
The number of hate crimes committed in 2009 against different groups in America according to the FBI:
2724 | black |
1415 | gay, lesbian, bisexual |
964 | Jewish |
654 | Hispanic |
652 | white |
147 | Asian/Pacific Islander |
128 | Muslim |
84 | American Indian/Alaskan Native |
55 | Catholic |
40 | Protestant |
21 | straight |
10 | atheist, agnostic, etc |
The rate per million:
184.7 | Jewish |
71.5 | black |
69.5 | Muslim |
61.5 | gay, lesbian, bisexual |
34.2 | American Indian/Alaskan Native |
28.4 | Hispanic |
10.3 | Asian/Pacific Islander |
2.8 | white |
0.7 | Catholic |
0.3 | Protestant |
0.2 | atheist, agnostic, etc |
0.1 | straight |
The rate for gays is not a solid number since no one is sure how many people are gay, lesbian or bisexual. I used 7.5% from the 2010 National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior.
Is it harder to be black than white Jewish or white gay? It would seem so since being black is harder to hide. But in practice it seems to make little difference when it comes to hate crimes.
Are blacks more racist than whites? I often get comments like this:
I think Larry Elder pointed out that blacks are in fact more racist than whites. Certainly that is supported by data on interracial violence.
Every now and then I also get a comment about how blacks are violently racist against Asians followed by some frightening tale.
So what do the hate crime numbers say?
In the 63% of cases where the police know who did it:
1503 | white on black |
304 | black on white |
and:
11 | black on Asian |
10 | Asian on black |
Whites are the bigger threat to Asians too:
72 | white on Asian |
2 | Asian on white |
Note that “Asian” here means Pacific Islanders too.
The natural racism model: Some say that every one is equally racist, that it is just part of human nature. Whites are not more evil: there are just more of them to do evil.
So here are the same numbers again, only this time in parentheses are what a “natural racism” model would predict (assuming the same overall number of hate crimes):
1503 | white on black (1127) |
304 | black on white (242) |
11 | black on Asian (15) |
10 | Asian on black (14) |
72 | white on Asian (421) |
2 | Asian on white (83) |
Natural racism predicts that whites will commit 2.7 times more hate crimes against blacks than Asians – because there are 2.7 times more blacks. But instead the number is 20.9. Whites are way more racist against blacks than Asians.
Hate crimes as a percentage of the value predicted by “natural racism”:
133% | white on black |
127% | black on white |
73% | black on Asian |
71% | Asian on black |
17% | white on Asian |
2% | Asian on white |
By this measure Asians are right to see blacks as more racist than whites when it comes to hate crimes – though not enough to make up for their lack of numbers compared to whites.
But whites have no such reason to think blacks are more racist than they are.
See also:
Florida… not surprising at all. Something interesting is how the Southern states, those that most WP probably imagine racism is highly prevalent, therefore would lend itself to hate crimes, turns out to be fewer than most other states.
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The natural racist numbers show me that whites and blacks basically go at it with one another (the real number is higher than the number in parentheses in both cases) but Asians are left alone by and leave alone both blacks and whites.
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What does this data reflect? Hate crimes charged? Hate crimes convicted? Hate crimes suspected?
I ask because as I understand it the data in this area is unreliable, for several reasons. First, there is data suggesting that prosecutors, responding to PC pressure, are more likely to charge a hate crime in a white vs. black crime than vice versa.
Also, the way data is compiled can skew results. For example, if memory serves, for hate crimes committed by “whites,” Hispanics/Latinos are included in the perpetrator category, but not when “whites” are the victims.
Finally, I don’t believe anybody has figured out a way to factor in the mixed motive crimes — economic crimes where the selection of the victim, or the level of aggression used in the commission of the crime, is affected by racial animus.
Not suggesting there ain’t a lot of hate out there, by the way.
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abagond
you do great work. so please please PLEASE stop enforcing that false dichotomy of “is it harder to be black or gay?” As if being gay doesn’t happen across all racial and ethnic lines.
At least be specific.. “Is it harder to be White and Gay than it is to be Black and Straight?”
The question is just as unanswerable, but at least it isn’t propping up a false binary.
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Isn’t it logical for (straight) whites to create most hate crimes? They are those who are in charge. They are also a majority, but raw numbers aren’t as important here: power is what matters more.
It has nothing to do with “natural” racism or whether people of a certain race are inherently born with hate. Having power and privilege is what makes people do these things. In a way, it’s knowing you can get away with it (even if you’re arrested- there will always be enough of those who’d justify your actions).
Jane,
I agree. It’s impossible to answer such questions. (Also, the most common one, is it harder to be white and female or to be black and male). It’s impossible to “measure” oppression this way, and it only leads to the oppression Olympics.
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It could, of course, mean that the oppressed, even if angry, know they can’t easily get away with a hate crime, so they are more careful.
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If its hard to black then I suppose it is harder to be black and gay.
But surprise for me is this accordin to that map: New Jersey. Wow! Lost of hate crime. What is going on there?? Maryland also.
Mississippi and Alabama shine, according the map.
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Expanding on what blanc said about racial classification, keep in mind that alot of those “white” on black hate crimes are probably more accurately described as Mestizo on black. It’s difficult to ignore all of these reports of Chicano violence against blacks in California.
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abagond, you are way off even attempting to post this bull, And you are dead wrong no argument about it.
I feel very strong on this issue. Hate crimes are ALWAYS reported when a white person even fights back against a black person.
Like for instance say me and my brother were walking down the street and you and your brother were too. Words are exchanged in fact you and yours are the aggressors ” Move out of my way whiT$e boy” — “f you nig%Er” then a fight breaks out —– we win you lose. You tell a cop and we are charged with a hate crime.
Happens like that all the time —- white people ARE NOT going around attacking black people, mostly it’s in retaliation but because of the anti white media and civil rights attorneys and the movie roots and al sharpton …. I could go on and on its not looked at as a hate crime or not reported as a hate crime when millions of whites are attacked by blacks worldwide every year
BUT IT SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll give you an example from your own post, that jerk HERMEITH or however he says his name tried to get a man fired from work for pronouncing his name wrong. That’s a perfect example of black people crying wolf which they do alllllllllllllllllll the time on the hate crime issue.
You really got me fired up you are sooooo one sided and if you don’t think that at least of 1/4 of the assaults in this country against white people were and should be classified as hate crimes your head is in the sand or you just haven’t investigated the issue without bias , which you yourself admit you have.
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In one of the other threads, someone (Kwamla??) alluded to how it would only take a relatively small percentage of racist Whites to negatively impact most/all Black-or-nonwhite people given nature of White Americans sizable majority. I believe it was in a thread led to affirmative action (AA) being discussed along with the poster’s persuasive point about how the typical White opponent of AA outrage over AA, if legitimate, is grossly out of proportion with the small numbers of African-Americans, e.g., attending colleges and may have been admitted with some kind of diversity/AA consideration.
Both the arithmetic there and the hate crime numbers here reminded me of this illustration Tim Wise made in one of his classic race commentaries:
“…the levels of [White racial] ignorance are so ingrained as to be almost laughable. Perhaps that’s why twelve percent of whites actually say blacks are a majority of the nation’s population, and why most whites, according to one recent survey, believe blacks are a third of the nation’s population, instead of the thirteen percent they actually represent. We seem to see black people everywhere, and apparently we see them doing quite well. We even see them as our buddies. Seventy-five percent of whites in one poll indicated that they had close black friends (friends, as in plural). Sounds great, until you realize that seventy-five percent of white Americans represents about 145 million people. Imagine that: 145 million people who say they have multiple black friends, despite the fact that there are only 35 million black people to go around, which means one of two things: either whites are clueless about black people, friendships (or both), or black folks are mighty damned busy, running from white house to white house to white house, being our friends.
Let’s just say that if the last of these is true, we can put away all that nonsense about blacks “taking our jobs.” After all, how could blacks have time to work, what with all the backyard barbecues they’re attending at the houses of their white pals?
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@ Dave— Millions of white people attacked? Hahaha! Even if that was true, maybe we’re just making up for lost time and trying to even the playing field. Since whites were outdoing us for so long.
A majority of the victims of crimes committed by blacks are other blacks. Not whites.
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Tim Wise is “guilt-porn” for the progressive white liberal set. He’s carved out quite a lucrative niche for himself in the broader Victim-Industrial Complex.
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Randy: Tim Wise is “guilt-porn”
lol… Guilt is a very selfish emotion/response which does nothing for anyone but the person(s) who are supposedly “guilty.”
Randy: “…the broader Victim-Industrial Complex.”
Well, I would have never imagined Tim Wise would be associated with Bill O’Rielly (lucrative niche??), Sarah Palin (spontaneously lucrative niche??), Rush Limbaugh (very, very lucrative niche??), Tea Partiers (the NAACP was mean to us), Birthers and such, let alone all those poor White “victims” of that “corrosively racist” affirmative action policy.
(Yeah, that’s right, Randy. Anytime you’re ready to show your work along with the virtual victim card that is your anti-affirmative action victim mindset…)
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@ Nquest:
Tim Wise is blowing it out of proportion. By his numbers the average black person has 8 white friends. In the north-east there are about 100 days of good barbecue weather from Memorial Day to Labor Day. If you go to one on Memorial Day that leaves 7 more over 100 days, which comes to one white barbecue every two weeks. That leaves plenty of time for work.
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“As a white male… should I feel guilty?”
I don’t want to get into my unequal distribution/division of labor commentary but with the recent revisiting of Abagond’s “All Blacks Are Racist” thread exploring the continuing impact of internalized racism on, dare I say, the victims of racism… I can’t help but think of how often people fail to account for how unfair racism-past (not to mention racism-present) is to African-Americans, e.g., who, given phenomena like internalized racism, are obligated/committed to combating something they had little or no parts in creating.
That alone places the curious cries/comments of Whites who don’t want to be held responsible for the proverbial racist sins of their fathers (note how the video makes a clear distinction between collective guilt & inherited, collective responsibility) in perspective.
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Abagond: By his numbers the average black person has 8 white friends.
But there is only seven days in the week. White friend #8 is a$$ out. lol : )
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@ Blanc2:
These are the numbers reported by the police to the FBI. Since in 37% of the racist hate crimes they do not even know who did it, it is certainly not convictions.
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Abagond:
Black people and non-blacks who feel the need to distinguish acts of violence based on the racial and gender makeup of the victim are trivializing unrighteous people. It doesn’t matter what the criminal looks like, If they’re causing bodily harm to another human being they should lose their freedom, Period! A lot of people in this country think they can force everybody to get along and look at the world in a race-neutral kind of way, but the real world doesn’t work that way. I don’t believe in racial cliches, such as……Race Doesn’t Matter……Color Doesn’t Matter……Love Is Colorblind, and so forth. Racial cliches are used to stifle honest debate about race in this country and abroad, and I refuse to play that game. As black people, we have to move the needle on race. Not being honest about race gets innocent people killed, Believe It! Blackwomen are kept down for the political and financial benefit of whitewomen, and look at all the chaos that is born out of that. Real racism has consequences, and human beings need to remember that!!!
Free Aquarius
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Abagond, I didn’t punch in the numbers but I think Wise was being charitable and didn’t take those White people at their word regarding the multiple number of Black friends (which for many seems like anyone Black they speak to/at on somewhat regularly) they claim to have. I think his numbers only account for one Black friend.
You got to count a lot more BBQ’s!
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Nquest:
The huge flaw in what Tim Wise said is that it seems that white people are allowed to count a black person as a “friend” without inviting them to their barbecues. Just like how they can count them as friends and bar them from attending their proms:
I assume he knows all this and was merely making a point.
I have been to plenty of barbecues but never a white one – unless you count Puerto Ricans as white. Likewise I have never been to a wedding where two white people got married.
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@ Jane
Good to see you again!
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Dave:
This post is based on the FBI numbers. Reporting issues are a fair complaint, as they are with all crime statistics. I just wish white people were that way when it came to black rape statistics. There they will take extremely weak numbers and use them to support their image of black men as violent, racist savages.
From what I can tell, the police take hate crimes against whites more seriously than those against blacks or Asians. In the case of those against whites, the police found out who did it 74.6% of the time. For those against Asians that drops to 61.2%. For blacks it is 60.4%.
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Dave said:
“You really got me fired up you are sooooo one sided and if you don’t think that at least of 1/4 of the assaults in this country against white people were and should be classified as hate crimes your head is in the sand or you just haven’t investigated the issue without bias , which you yourself admit you have.”
How do you know that a fourth of all assaults against whites have a racist motive?
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Dave said:
“You really got me fired up you are sooooo one sided and if you don’t think that at least of 1/4 of the assaults in this country against white people were and should be classified as hate crimes your head is in the sand or you just haven’t investigated the issue without bias , which you yourself admit you have.”
Abagond:
How do you know that a fourth of all assaults against whites have a racist motive?
I was asking the same thing.
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Abagond,
Why not have up a national chart showing where the most violent street crimes take place, and have a meaningful discussion about that? Just curious.
O.
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Abagond: The huge flaw in what Tim Wise said is that it seems that white people are allowed to count a black person as a “friend” without inviting them to their barbecues…
Umm… That was basically the point of what he said and, now, I don’t know whether you’re being jokingly-sarcastic or literal with these posts re: Wise.
At first you declared Wise was the one who was blowing things out of proportion but now you’ve circled around and echoed the very thing that was Wise’s point (and the overall point I attempted to make):
that White folks perception ‘counts’ — be it the supposed number of jobs or college admissions they have lost out on because of supposedly un(der)qualified, unworthy so-called minorities via affirmative action or the number of “close” Black friends they have — is grossly out of proportion with the numerical reality.
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Agreed.
I saw Wise as being sarcastic so I was playing along.
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Nquest,
Have I missed something, or did Tim Wise neglect to cite his sources in the article you posted?
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I’ll give you an example from your own post, that jerk HERMEITH or however he says his name tried to get a man fired from work for pronouncing his name wrong. That’s a perfect example of black people crying wolf which they do alllllllllllllllllll the time on the hate crime issue.
First of all genius, it’s Herneith, not Hermeith. Secondly, I am a female not a male. Thirdly, I didn’t “tried to get a man fired from work for pronouncing his name wrong”. I lodged a complaint against him. What they decide to do with this is neither here nor there. Yes, I couldn’t care less what they do to this clown or others of his ilk. The result of the investigation found that I had been discriminated against. I can assure you that they will not be firing this man as a result, they never do! I lodged this complaint mainly for documentary purposes. The management always claims that these is no documentation, so I supply them with such in cases of racism. I do this to show systemic racism in all it’s glory! If people don’t like it to bad!
The other reason I lodged this complaint is___ta-da, I have been the recipient of a hate crime ongoing for six years as the person or persons are anonymous. I was not the aggressor in this unless you think solely being black is cause enough for someone to perpetrate a hate crime against you. Judging from your rant, you probably do. Now, I’m going to go out and beat the sh*t out of ‘millions’ of white people so I can fit your stereotype of blacks being the aggressor. The only regret I will have is possibly ruining my newly manicured nails as I do so.
Oh, if you are going to resort to name calling, referring to me as a “jerk”, please be more creative. If it wasn’t for the comment policy here, I would return the favour. I am a pro at such things, as cussing and name calling is an art at which I excel. That is a courtesy I would be only to happy to afford you. Unfortunately I can’t, mores the pity! Now skedaddle.
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@ Obsidian:
Good suggestion, though I might just make it about New York and its suburbs.
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Randy: “Have I missed something…”
Yes, you obviously have for you to ever mention citing sources to me when I have challenged you to cite yours with regards to your statement about affirmative action being “corrosively racist.”
Because of that, your question asking privileges, queries and such, are revoked as far as I’m concerned.
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To Abagond:
From what I can tell, the police take hate crimes against whites more seriously than those against blacks or Asians. In the case of those against whites, the police found out who did it 74.6% of the time. For those against Asians that drops to 61.2%. For blacks it is 60.4%.
I would say the nature of the crime weighs heavily in the ability of the police to solve the crime. Look at the data for hate crimes against Asians and Blacks… roughly 1/3 of the hate crimes against each group are for vandalism. In contrast less than 1/10 of the hate crimes against Whites are for vandalism. Generally vandalism is harder to solve (because the perps do it when no one is around..) than assaults. 70% of the hate crimes against Jews involve vandalism…(Typically crap like spray painting swastikas on Synagogues) I would suspect then that the number of times a perp is caught for committing a hate crime against Jews is relatively low.
76% of the crimes against Whites by definition involve physical or visual contact with the perpetrators, whereas for Blacks it’s 65% and for Asians it’s 67%.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_04.html
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Since I’m on this tangent, Wise’s commentary was written in 2001. A 2006 Public Policy Forum race relations survey (I merely Googled “survey whites black friend”) kinda supports the numbers in the poll Wise referenced — in his commentary which also referenced, by name, polling/studies by Gallup and the Russell Sage Foundation.
Beyond that, I’m thinking the “close” Black (or non-white) friends count Wise referenced is even more complicated by the facts of residential segregation. Even in surveys of the 2010 Census, the average white person in the more integrated metro-areas still live in neighborhoods that are 77% White while Black metro-dwellers tend to hold simple majorities in their neighborhoods which have sizable Hispanic populations (48% or so).
So I’m thinking those BBQ’s are few and far between and we won’t even talk about “the most segregated hour in America.”
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@ Uncle Milton:
Thanks. That makes sense.
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I think that hate crimes in the U.S are grossly under-reported. I read an article recently that put the number of race related crime in the UK in the tens of thousands range (around 200,000), and the population over there is about one sixth of ours. That’s not proof, but it certainly places some doubts on the American stats.
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Hate crimes are everywhere. In India for example you have them against religious minorities and the so-called “untouchable'(!) Dalits.
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In regards to the white category.
In the U.S., Middle Easterners and North Africans are classified as whites, and so I assume crimes against them would be classified as crimes against whites.
However, I wonder what percentage of crimes against whites is really crimes against Middle easterners/ North Africans, and furthermore, who are the perpetrators of these crimes.
If European-Americans are attacking Middle Eastern people, does that still classify as a crime against whites?
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When I hear whites say things like “blacks are more racist against whites these days,” I cringe.
I am torn between an emotion of anger and downright disgust.
Are blacks more racist than whites?
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Hey, abagond, when will you put up the song “Mississippi, Goddamn,” by Nina Simone?
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If European-Americans are attacking Middle Eastern people, does that still classify as a crime against whites?
Yes, that seems to be one of the problems with the statistics. Technically, if their group is recognized as white/Caucasian by the government, they would treat the assaults as crimes against whites. However, in practice, these people are not seen to be the same as WASPs, so general classification of the crimes makes no sense. We don’t learn much about the attackers, either. If WASPs are the ones attacking them, would that be recorded as a hate crime (because both the criminal and the victim are white?) I can see they did make a distinction with the crimes against Jewish people, and homosexuals, but they are not clear when it comes to Middle Easterners.
Another problem, that others already pointed to, is that statistics can deal only with the reported crimes. And these numbers might not be a true representation of crimes in general. Sure the whites attacked by blacks feel more secure about reporting the crime.
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that map is a good thing to have. so i can know what to expect if i do visit any of those places. thats higlighted with the redes red
and although some of us have never come across a hate crime
they sure do exist.
pennsylvania is shocking to me to be in white.
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For those surprised that Mississippi is in the white for the most part racist down here are all talk no action.
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Saw both an earlier comment on India and this on the net. Wonder if either is true? —–
“The Hindus hold the record for the worst genocoide ever committed. Against the Dalits, the “untouchables.”
Nothing comes close. Not the Naqba, not the genocide against Iraq, not even Communist genocides combined against Russians, Chinese, Cambodians, Cubans, Angolans, all Africans – Congolese and the rest & more.
Not even black slavery comes close.
Not even slavery against the Slavs, which is older than black slavery was, comes close.
The genocide against the Dalits is 3,500 years old”.
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It would be interesting to break it down even further (this would also help with the false dichotomies Janu was discussing). What about hate crimes against Black Jews (the senseless murder of the black rapper Yoseph Robinson was only a few months ago), Asian Gays, and so on, and how much of the numbers listed above include individuals that fall into more than one category? It would be interesting (I think) to consider.
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@herneith
all i am saying is violent white on black hate crimes doesnt exist at the rate these false statistics say alot of spanish decent mexicans are classified as whites in this study. but there are black people who target and beat up whites because of race. take your head out of the sand
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@ dave
“all i am saying is violent white on black hate crimes doesnt exist at the rate these false statistics say alot of spanish decent mexicans are classified as whites in this study.”
Yeah, and a lot of those Mexicans who identify as White actually are White.
It cracks me up how people like dave have this fantasy that all the real violence must be coming from these swarthy Mexicans with dark mustaches and Tijuana switchblades who are just calling themselves White.
It’s time to start taking responsibility for the actions of ALL the White people in the rest of the Americas.
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What I would of poke at here is that both my mum and dad experienced rude and voilent behaviour only from the black race, yet it was so small that it was not their initative to inform the police of it. Another thing is, that if you would get some date on how black people behave and how white behave, you would find that most black people are loud, dysturbing and get very explosive at times when they talk to whites. Yet, as well as for the above, those incidents would not be told the police.
And this is because both my parents and white offenders, in this country, would be called recists.
I, myself, do not like most of the africans for how they behave. But, truly, it just seems like this is how they have to be, how they have been made and it just depends on how they use it – e.g Martin Luther King used his loud voice and proud posture to fight again recism in America, which is a good thing.
Some of my friends are black. They are very loud and dysturbing at lots of times and easily provoked, yet most of time I feel safe next to them, knowing that they won’t do anything to me as we are close enough to have some trust to ourselves. They are really good friends, and have helped me loads of times. Yet both of them have not been born in America… They grew up to age of 10 or around, then moved here.
This is somehow important, because blacks which have been born here are so much ruder than blacks who have came here after living in Africa, Caribbean and their homeland where ancestors were.
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all i am saying is violent white on black hate crimes doesnt exist at the rate these false statistics say alot of spanish decent mexicans are classified as whites in this study. but there are black people who target and beat up whites because of race. take your head out of the sand
All you are saying is sweet f*ck all, and poorly at that.
@Hushu:
HUH!!!!
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To King:
Yeah, and a lot of those Mexicans who identify as White actually are White.
I am sure you know.. not all Latinos are Mexican.. also I figure if someone identifies primarily as an ethnic group. Why shouldn’t they be categorized and labeled as such for good like Hector Ruiz former chairman of AMD:
Or fill ill:
Bottom photo in the link below is Jonathan Fajardo who murdered 14 year old Cheryl Green pictured in the top photo:
http://projects.latimes.com/homicide/post/times-coverage-gang-members-stand-trail-racially-motivated-killings-harbor-gateway
Obviously the White/Latino thing can get muddled such as with George P Bush nephew of George W Bush (Pictured to the left in the photo below):
It’s time to start taking responsibility for the actions of ALL the White people in the rest of the Americas.
You mean like Ice-T pictured below..? Man boobs and all..?
How about Benjamin Jealous of NAACP?:
They self identify as Black but should Whites claim them..? Maybe if Ice-T hits the gym and gives me some royalty checks… albeit he is looking like a bunch of middle age White guys I know. At least he has the good sense not to wear a speedo. Over weight middle aged White guys in speedos are not a sight for the weak of heart.
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OH! Uncle Milton… did you have to show me the Ice Tea rack shot!!?? I… I can barely see now! Ugh… that was truly, truly, disgusting, man!!!!
…My main point was that there seems to be a basic and ongoing assumption that a great horde of Latinos, who look like this
Are incorrectly checking the [ ] I am White/Hispanic box at every opportunity given, then they do stuff like this
and so true Whites
get blamed for it.
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Are incorrectly checking the [ ] I am White/Hispanic box at every opportunity given, then they do stuff like this
All of those guys are White guys… Al Pacino as Scarface….some random White dude who could have auditioned for the the Village People and a generic middle aged White dude.
I doubt the perps are marking down White Hispanic.. it’s just cops working with the forms they have.
But that said.. fine… therefore I will officially lay claim to Jennifer Lopez
Selma Hayek:
and Jessica Alba
as representatives of the White female populace.
Also toss in most Brazilian and Persian models.
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Not so fast, Uncle… J-Lo defaults to Black, due to her clearly callipygian tendencies. You may have the others.
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The classification issue gets into all of the weirdness of American racial politics. Many agencies and individuals do not define race/ethnicity according to a peron’s actual ancestry or appearance. Those who have origins in a Spanish speaking country are often categorized automatically as white, regardless of whether they have visible African or Amerindian ancestry. On the other hand, if Wentworth Miller committed a crime, he might well be classified as black because he is of African American ancestry despite the fact that he is phenotypically white and of overwhelming European background. This system is completely irrational in my opinion.
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WILL THE HATE CRIMES AGAINST THE EGYPTIAN COPTIC CHRISTIANS NOW FINALLY COME TO AN END?
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To Mira:
Isn’t it logical for (straight) whites to create most hate crimes? They are those who are in charge. They are also a majority, but raw numbers aren’t as important here: power is what matters more.
I don’t have the data but from my reading and anecdotal experience I would say it is more likely that hate crimes are more commonly committed by people who are lower income, hence with relatively less power. As it stands Whites, on a per capita basis, commit hate crimes at a lower rate than Blacks.
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_09.html
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/offenders.html
“By race
In 2009, the racial breakdown of the 6,225 known hate crime offenders was as follows:
62.4 percent were white.
18.5 percent were black.”
Roughly 13% of Americans are Black (by the FBI offender definition..) and roughly 80% of Americans are White.
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Uncle Milton said:
““By race
In 2009, the racial breakdown of the 6,225 known hate crime offenders was as follows:
62.4 percent were white.
18.5 percent were black.”
Roughly 13% of Americans are Black (by the FBI offender definition..) and roughly 80% of Americans are White.”
That is misleading. It counts hate crimes where the race of the offender is unknown and not given. It also counts hate crimes not based on race. Correcting for that you get:
80.6% White
17.1% Black
1.5% American Indian/Alaskan Native
0.8% Asian/Pacific Islander
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[…] “Why the filthy caucasion [sic] savage does not deserve your sympathy” is not the subject of today’s post. It is merely my little introduction to the pro-black, anti-white blogosphere. The real subject is a series of slightly more coherent posts by blogger abagond and re-posted by Tweedledum and Tweedledee: “white privilege mindset,” “Fanon: The So-Called Dependency Complex of the Colonized,” and “hate crime rate.” […]
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To Abagond:
That is misleading. It counts hate crimes where the race of the offender is unknown and not given. It also counts hate crimes not based on race. Correcting for that you get:
The statement on the FBI’s site was that the offender’s were known but their race was not… I am inclined to believe then that the assailants in those cases were of neither a White or Black phenotype. Also there was a group where attackers were of multiple races. Throwing out the ambiguous numbers I got the following… hate crimes crimes where the offender is known:
75.6% White
22.4% Black
1.1 % Native American
0.875% Asian
From the following data:
White 3,885
Black 1,150
American Indian/Alaskan Native 60
Asian/Pacific Islander 45
Given that there is no category for Hispanic offenders (but there is for Hispanic victims..) I am inclined to say that a high percentage of the Hispanic assailants are included as Whites. (Which is generally the case when crimes are reported to the FBI..) Non-Hispanic and Hispanic Whites make up a little more than 80% of the population.
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Ugh, I will never, ever understand how some people will murder another person because of his/her race. It’s sickening and downright evil.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/08/06/mississippi.hate.crime/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
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@leigh204
That is absolutely terrifying. The maliciousness of this act is almost unbelievable. My heart goes out to that man’s family.
I’m glad all of this was caught on tape and backed up by witness testimony. If it wasn’t for the tape I am sure people would deny this sort of thing could happen in “post-racial” America.
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To Leigh,
I heard about that today. It’s saddening.
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Agreed. This was hard to watch. Sounds like something out of the 1930s. This didn’t just happen in a vacuum. What were these White kids being taught, and by whom?
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@ Y, brothawolf, and King:
And wouldn’t you know it. There are fools (surprise, surprise white folks) trying to turn this hate crime around saying blacks and other minorities have attacked numerous white people in the past and the mainstream media wouldn’t have reported it. Are they for effing real?
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so this wasnt classified as a hate crime if this isnt I don’t know what is proves my point
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if this kid died it would have been the modern day emmitt till and you wonder why white guys are on guard dating black women do you think this is an isolated insident or are I hate white people sites like this contributing to blacks attacking whites you might have blood on your hands abagond
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I just came across this video,
I live right outside philadelphia and the city is pretty much broke because the previous mayor pretty much raped and pilliaged all the funds we had, and the recession and other factors , industry leaving the city , outsourcing, etc.
So when this new mayor Nutter , came along he had to cut alot of programs to balance the budget. Now I suspect this is the case in other cities as well so there is less for kids to do.
So I guess these , Mostly black kids are making thier own fun by taking thier hate out on white people with FLASH MOBS, look them up there was just 5 of them in philly with in the year and some were pretty violent with innocent people being beat up and robbed and having thier property damaged, 99% of the victims are white.
Here was the black mayors recent response which thank god hes not white . Because even though it is plain truth, people would say he is racist and not truthful
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My question is would black rather live here in America or Africa? If Africa, feel free to return there.
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@fullofthoughts:
You’re full of it…and it’s definitely not thoughts.
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In Africa they say there are 13 different shades of black and millions have been killed. All because of black rasism. Its not even close. No other rase has killed its own kind more then blacks.
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Comment by Gene Willis deleted for referring to Jews as animals.
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where do you get thes statistics from?what did you do put 1 through 10 on paper,cut into sections,through numbers into the air and then make up the statistics?you must be an obama lover and a eric holder for anti white messenger.whites attacking blacks more then blacks attacking anyone else.oh,wait,i know where you are getting these stats from.50 years ago,back in the sixties.a place you never been befor in you,r entire life.of course you will think like a uneducated white man from that time period.because you would have to make en entire effort on you’r part to get the facts correct.
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if you want to fudge the facts,leave the black community out of you’r equastion.then you’r stats may support it’s self.maybe.
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@gene willis
You know…half your questions were actually answered in the post. Try reading it and then commenting.
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Hey Gene, were you on vacation?
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Not to mention the various incidents of brutality and murder of black men by law enforcement that is on going here in America now there is an incident in Mississippi where a man was found hung. Otis Byrd.
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