Trump v Hawaii (2018) is the US Supreme Court decision that upheld President Trump’s Muslim travel ban. On July 26th 2018 the highest court in the land upheld it in a straight party vote, 5 to 4.
The currently banned. Via Politico.
The ban, in its current form, Trump’s third attempt, prevents anyone new from entering the US from five Muslim-majority countries – Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, and Iran – along with North Korea and government officials (and their families) from Venezuela.
The ban will last as long as Trump wants. He can add other countries. All he has to do is use the magic words – national security – and the Supreme Court will not second guess him. Even if he makes it crystal clear in public comments that it has little to do with national security and everything to do with his Islamophobia – or whatever brand of fear and hatred he chooses to push.
This is just how the Supreme Court wound up backing President Roosevelt’s decision to send Japanese Americans to prison camps. In Korematsu v United States (1944) the government argued that it was necessary for national security. That turned out to be a lie, as the government’s own records would later prove, but the Supreme Court bought it.
Trump himself expected the Supreme Court to go along with his ban in just this way. He told “Good Morning America”:
“What I’m doing is no different than FDR [President Roosevelt] … one of the most highly respected presidents.”
Justices Sotomayor and Ginsburg in their dissent also compared the case to Korematsu. But Justice Roberts, speaking for the Republican majority, distanced their decision from Korematsu by overturning it and calling it “morallly repugnant”.
The Republicans on the Supreme Court are not “economically distressed”. They are not “low-information”. They do not face re-election or have any reason to fear Trump’s tweets. They fit none of the it’s-not-about-racism excuses Whites make for Trump supporters. This is just who they are. Trump is now the new normal.
Justice Sotomayor in her dissent:
“The United States of America is a Nation built upon the promise of religious liberty. Our Founders honored that core promise by embedding the principle of religious neutrality in the First Amendment. The Court’s decision today fails to safeguard that fundamental principle. It leaves undisturbed a policy first advertised openly and unequivocally as a “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States” because the policy now masquerades behind a façade of national-security concerns. But this repackaging does little to cleanse Presidential Proclamation No. 9645 of the appearance of discrimination that the President’s words have created. Based on the evidence in the record, a reasonable observer would conclude that the Proclamation was motivated by anti-Muslim animus. … The majority holds otherwise by ignoring the facts, misconstruing our legal precedent, and turning a blind eye to the pain and suffering the Proclamation inflicts upon countless families and individuals, many of whom are United States citizens. Because that troubling result runs contrary to the Constitution and our precedent, I dissent.”
– Abagond, 2018.
See also:
- Donald Trump
- Japanese American internment
- Korematsu v United States
- Sonia Sotomayor
- Vine Deloria, Jr: Conquest Masquerading as Law – the Supreme Court and Indian treaties
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Over the next 5 plus years many of those who thought Mrs. Clinton was bad will see what the asked for and now have.
Anti Abortion and other women’s rights, return to segregation, and many previous wins wiped out or diluted!
Will the president get women back in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant?
Watch for some form of “‘James’ Crow”!
People who forget history are doomed to live thru it again.
It is dam- hard to get things back on track!
Bet none of you had any idea of how many pro-white people were in this nation! Or should I say anti people of color.
@ abagond Go back and review the anti Clinton messages.
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@Allen Shaw
Many posters here thought you as a complete opposite of your statements perhaps because of that severe short sightedness you mentioned. i was waiting in the voting line and had a chronic stomach ache that needed to be remedied unless I wanted to soil my pants. By the time I got back the line was too long and it would confliced with the rest of my responsibilities of the day if I would chose to wait and vote.
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i was waiting in the voting line and had a chronic stomach ache that needed to be remedied unless I wanted to soil my pants.
You should have purchased some Depends pads or underwear (depending on the heaviness of the flow). Now, look what you are stuck with!
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@ Allen Shaw
Huh? I was a Clinton supporter in 2016, after Bernie Sanders lost, and spent ten months being excoriated by Trump trolls for it, not just before the election but after, for not falling in line behind Russia’s puppet president.
Hillary Clinton was bad, but I made it clear that Trump was far worse:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/07/23/hillary-clinton-for-president/
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2016/11/08/how-donald-trump-is-worse-than-hillary-clinton/
I voted for her. I was not one of those who sat at home thinking there was no difference, that elections don’t matter.
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@Herneith
I immediately began to learn what a grave mistake it was when in March of 2017 I went to Shenandoah Valley with my child and his mother for her birthday and there was a scary dweller of the area that jokingly threatened to shoot me and my family. The director of the Cavern tours was also very alarmed at this man as he probably harassed a previous group of POC on that tour.
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@ TeddyBearDaddy
That is one of the ways poor people, working-class people, even middle class people, in this country are effectively disenfranchised — by making it difficult to have sufficient time to vote. And it affects POC disproportionately.
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@ Abagon I know; however, you have the record to actually go back and find those that were so much against Mrs, Clinton. I do not have that ability.
It is important for people to understand politics and the results of minor problems. Picking Bernie after he was knocked out of the Democratic primary. Talking about the Clinton Foundation and some problem in some other country.
Maybe some of those respondent were Russian in origin. Since that has been identified as a problem have you checked?
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@ TeddyBearDaddy
I have long since stopped voting in some line. Maybe your city does not allow it; therefor, I will not blame you. More people should consider using the absentee ballot or whatever the formal name for it is. Have your ballot mailed to your home and mail it in.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx#early
http://webhelper.centurylink.com/index.php?origURL=http%3A//www.canivote.org/&r=http%3A//www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx&bc=
The elections are taking place for primary’s in some states still. if you are eligible get out and vote.
@ abagond Could you cover voting and different ways to vote:
Cover places that trick the citizens by moving the voting places, removing names without notifying individuals and other blocks to them voting.
Discuss citizens joining forces with local groups and identify voting problems
(N O W)! If it is not possible to vote early local groups should set up transportation for people unable to get to the voting booths.
Remind people they should not cry if they have been removed. They should check ahead of time to see if they have been removed. If they have, they should get back on the list (re-register). Social groups should set up programs to help people check.
It is to late to say they have been robbed after the election.
I understand it is hard, but we need a change in the congress and the public is the only way to make the change.
What do they know about their representative other than they are “good looking and sound good when speaking”! They should study the people and the issues!
https://www.fvap.gov/guide/appendix/state-elections
The general election is 4 months and a few days away.
It is not likely that the president is going to leave office early so we need a congress that can stand up against his and his cabinets cruel actions. (See Woodrow Wilson and his racist policies)
Good luck, and remember, do not wait until the last minute. Our way of life is being assaulted!
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@Solitaire
I was unemployed for years man. I developed health problems that still persists to this day. A normal meal for you could spell disaster for me.
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@ Allen Shaw
As best as I could tell Resw and Nomad were Russian trolls. Nomad may have just been tagging along, though. Origin said many of the same sort of things, but he did not experience a Come to Russia moment right after I endorsed Hillary.
More:
https://abagond.wordpress.com/2017/06/27/i-am-banning-resw-and-nomad/
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@ Allen Shaw
Absentee ballot rules are different everywhere. I have done a mail-in ballot before, but I’ve also lived (recently) in a place where if you could not prove disability or that you would be out of state for several weeks, you were not allowed a mail-in ballot. You were instead required to go to the county election office during the absentee ballot period and vote there in front of a notary.
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@ TeddyBearDaddy
Have you been able to see a doctor about it? Sounds like it could be IBS or Crohn’s.
Maybe if it happens again, explain to an election official that you have a medical condition and a tight schedule, and ask if they could possibly hold your place in the line?
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@ Solitaire Please reread my last post. I gave a lot of different suggestions.
I am trying to encourage people to find a way to vot. I am also trying to ask people to help others vote.
If a person is required to go some place the community should join forces to assist. Voting and studying the candidate are the most important one thing to do.
I believe I covered your comment.
With the “Progressive (Social Democrats) dividing the Democratic vote the Republicans are going to have a run away! (A hay day!)
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@Solitaire
Something about what you wrote sounds incomplete.
There are several million overseas Americans, and the majority that I know do vote in US elections, and they are counted in dozens of different states.
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@ Jefe
I wrote that mail-in ballots are allowed if the voter is going to be out of state long enough that they would not be able to go to the office during the days established for absentee voting. That would include any residents who would be overseas.
How it works for someone like yourself, who has been overseas for a couple decades, I dont know. Can you vote at the state, county, and city level?
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@ Allen Shaw
I appreciate your efforts to help get out the vote.
Perhaps my comment came off as trying to discourage that? But it’s not how I meant it, just that people need to find out how their particular area handles things, and to do it early to make sure they get to vote.
I myself was surprised when I ran up against the absentee ballot requirement that I described. I had voted the mail-in absentee ballot before elsewhere and had assumed the process was much the same everywhere.
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@Solitaire
I think it varies from state to state and whether you registered for a political party or not.
I last voted in New York City, so, my vote is assigned to New York, but they only let me vote in elections on the Federal level, ie, President, US Senator and US Congressman. I have to go online and register for an absentee ballot to be sent to me overseas. I have to indicate that I have not resided in the USA for the past year.
I cannot vote for the state, county or city representatives.
A friend of mine here who last voted in Wisconsin told me she can only vote for the president, as she did not keep an address in the USA and cannot be assigned a district for Senate or House. But her vote would be assigned to Wisconsin (but perhaps no district). I went back to renew my driver’s license, but some of my friends overseas just let that expire.
Actually, when I left the US, I had my license switch to Maryland (where my parents were), but after they passed away, I switched back to NY. But in the interim, I never registered to vote back in Maryland or actually vote there.
I am not sure how it works for Americans who register to vote overseas for the first time. Maybe you get assigned to the state where your parents last voted.
To be honest, I wish I knew more Americans who returned to the US after living overseas for decades. I would like to know the paperwork involved.
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Welcome those of you who are living in out of the nations borders. If you wish to vote you will seek advice. Nothing I have said is blaming someone who cannot vote because of some technical problem.
My message was to encourage those who are eligible to vote to get out and vote. It also encouraged people to assist those without transportation to help someone get to the proper place.
It encourages people to study the issues and people they are voting for.
I suggest that group meeting be held to study issues. Many issues are worded so people do not know what they mean.
Good luck in your community. Remember you are voting for people in your District. Find out which district you are in so you are studying the correct person or issue. They all appear on TV and do not describer the district they are in.
My message is not to all of you who know what the rules are except you should help others.
People cannot afford to blow the election in November.
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