Note: This is a breaking story. This post presents what was known by the following morning at 8.00am ET (12.00 GMT). Updates follow after the post.
The Charleston Massacre took place last night, June 17th 2015, at about 9.00pm at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina. It is one of the older and larger Black churches of the American South. A young White man sat down to join their Wednesday night Bible study. An hour later he opened fire, killing three men and six women. Three others lived. The police regard it as a hate crime, but not as an act of terrorism.
The police and the FBI are looking for the gunman. He is a White man, age 21 to 25, of slight build, about 5 foot 9 (1.75m), with sandy brown hair, wearing a grey hoodie, blue jeans and Timberland boots. A security camera caught video of both him and his car (stills pictured below)
He is regarded as “extremely dangerous”. He may try to hurt or kill more people. Police did arrest one man last night, but then let him go as the wrong person.
This takes place just two months after Walter Scott was shot in the back by police in nearby North Charleston. It takes place in a state that still flies the Confederate battle flag in front of the building that makes its laws.
One of the church’s founders was Denmark Vesey, who led a slave uprising in 1822. The church taught slaves to read. Martin Luther King once spoke there.
Its pastor, Clementa Pinckney, is among those killed. He was also a state senator. He led a prayer vigil for Walter Scott and pushed for a law requiring police to wear body cameras. That law went into effect last week. The police do not know if the gunman was after Pinckney himself – or any other particular person at the Bible study.
The mayor said,
“This is an unfathomable and unspeakable act by someone filled with hate, and with a deranged mind,”
The police chief said,
“There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it is hate crime.”
The three survivors are still being questioned. The gunman reportedly told a survivor he would let her live so she could tell others what he did – something terrorists do.
Jeb Bush, who is running for president, cancelled his appearances today in South Carolina.
The White press generally dismisses White mass killers as madmen, as “troubled”, as “lone wolves”, as “isolated incidents”. But this time I hope that that is all it is, a senseless tragedy. The country is in a state where it could be something much worse.
Killing people at church is rare in the US, but not unheard of. The most famous case is the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing in 1963, which killed four Black girls in Birmingham, Alabama at the height of the civil rights movement.
– Abagond, 2015.
Update (15.42 GMT): The suspect, identified as Dylann Roof, age 21, an apparent White supremacist, has been caught. The White press is already calling him a “lone wolf” and “quiet”, but not a terrorist.
Update (June 19th): President Obama spoke yesterday. He made it about gun control. He did not call Roof a thug or a terrorist. The nine victims have now been named:
- Ethel Lance
- Tywanza Sanders
- Cynthia Hurd
- Depayne Middleton Doctor
- The Rev. Clementa Pinckney
- Susie Jackson
- Myra Thompson
- The Rev. Dr. Daniel Simmons, Sr
- Sharonda Coleman-Singleton
Update (June 20th): An eyewitness account of the massacre has appeared in the Charleston Post and Courier. There were two other survivors: Pinckney’s wife and daughter. They were hiding in his locked office.
What appears to be Roof’s manifesto has been found on a website that was registered to his name months before the massacre. He talks of going to Charleston. It leaves no doubt that he is a racist and a terrorist.
See also:
- The Guardian’s live updates
- Dylann Roof
- Walter Scott
- 16th Street Baptist Church bombing
- Wade Michael Page – the Sikh temple shooter
- James Holmes – the Batman shooter
- Stuff to keep in mind:
- McKinney – just the other week
@LOM
That is not just the south. I live in the rural south and relations here seem to be better than other places.
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People need to remove the idea that is man was out of his mind. He was not crazy. He was sane enough to run so he was sane enough to know what he did was wrong.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/video/church-gunman-reportedly-said-i-have-to-do-it-467402819802
Shooter says he had to do it. Hmmm…
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Once again, I pray for the folks in my hometown who have been affected by this utterly senseless shooting. An obviously depraved minded individual shooting defenseless people at a place of worship. How much more neurotic can white folks evolve into being???
I mean, just take a look at this guy, an average, clean shaven, casually dressed coward. I wouldn’t even pay much attention to such a simple white man walking down the street. Well,, … here is your homegrown threat AMERIKKKA. A non-descript white man wearing a mask of civility who certainly deceived everyone!
Not a Middle-Eastern looking individual; not a Negro wearing his pants below his buttocks; not someone from the “HOOD” who lacks home values. No AMERIKKKA, it’s your typical looking white man who the media exonerate, extol and acquit each and every day. Yeah AMERIKKA, … you got exactly the homicidal image you’re so deserving of!
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My father always said the meanest people on Earth were White People.
Others can be evil for a time but they can’t keep up the murderous rage.
White people will kill and kill until the streets run red with blood.
I honestly think they are products of what is known as INVOLUTION. It’s the opposite of EVOLUTION. They are race of filthy golems with no connection to God whatsoever so they try to pretend that they are God.
Only a soul can make you a HUE-man and we use our pineal glands to connect with our souls. Men and women of hue have compassion for their fellow beings. They don’t poison them, starve them and drop bombs on them.
We are the Original Peoples of this Universe. Mother Nature is us. Soil is us. Wind is us. Water is us. Plant life is us. Animal life is us.
We are dark because the sun has kissed our skin. We have kinky dark hair because it has had time to absorb the earth.
We are in effect dealing with another species.
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Mr . Roof looks like a skinhead . I am glad they caught his ass .
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@TheHipHopRecords, I feel you bro, white people are in fact mutants who are incapable of having empathy!
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Those people that were murdered my heart goes out to the families but remember this death is not the end as when know it to be in this dimension of TIME , G O D is watching and still in control . I know it is hard to lose a loved one .
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[…] of a deadly massacre in Charleston, South Carolina where nine people were shot while in church has, rightly, blanketed the news for the past 12 […]
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Lord of NOTHING said: “You are worse than Hitler.”
No surprises here, just what one would expect from a Hitlerian disciple!
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Mr. Ryan Roof has been apprehended and I hope he suffers , he looks like a skinhead .
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Dylann Roof is a racist and what I call a home grown terrorist .This people are no better than ISL .
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What is ISL?
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ISL, is the ISIS.
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Atta Boy, FBI you guys are awesome in my book .,
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Update: 21 year-old suspect, caught in NC. More later…
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FBI awesome eh? I duuno about that….
I mean the local police should have been able to find the white mass killer easy peazy, being there is a damn video of him taken by the churches cameras!
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A week ago we did not know who Rachel Dolezal and Dylann Roof were.
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@Sondis
Exactly. I don’t think they were really looking for him.
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I don’t believe he acted alone. They need to come up with new lines of bs to feed the masses.
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I was reading through the comments on a yahoo article on the mass shooting in Charleston and as usual, white people are focused on not defending the shooters actions but are objecting to the FBI and Local police for categorizing the shooting as a “Hate crime”.
Why do white people make it a point to find anything to point out about black criminals, when another white person, commits a mass shooting like this?
Their first knee jerk reaction is to always and i mean ALWAYS, point to examples of black people killing white people and it never gets put into the “Hate crime” pot.
Maybe its because of history of white people, killing black people, simply because they are black? Something whites never seem to understand or comprehend.
why can’t they just condemn a evil and yes, RACIST act that someone from their racial group has done and leave it at that???
Yeah yeah, not every white person does this and has done this in this case but reading the yahoo comments, the number of white people that are pointing out what black criminal do, far outweighs the whites that are condemning what this racist mass shooter has done and leave it for what it is.
I rarely if ever hear any black person, point out what white criminals do, when a black criminal kills other black people in their community and if anything, black people are WAY too critical about our fellow black people than any other racial group.
Someone explain why and how this dynamic exists?
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@Sondis, that’s a great question, perhaps Lord of NOTHING (Mirkwood) can facilitate a response.
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It is terrorism. Isn’t hate crime synonymous with terrorism?
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My condolences to the victims of this terrorist act and my African American cousins.
The country is in a state where it could be something much worse
This is one of the first thing that struck me when This news broke!
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@ Sondis
And the other half are busy deflecting to the “Hate Obama” tactic, because he is responsible for the “climate of racial division” in this country!
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King:
Typical…
Check out this article:
White Supremacists Worried Charleston Shooting Makes Them Look Bad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/18/charleston-church-shootin_n_7613540.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592
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This was Terrorism point blank and a hate crime
This young Piece of Sh’t point blank stated that “you all are taking over my country” before he started shooting.
He let the one lady live, so that his words could live on to instill Terror in the people he Hated — black people!
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@ Sondis
Read it. Thanks.
Now, how would a racist make other racist’s look bad by acting out on his racism???
I don’t see the connection?
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@Lord of Mirkwood
I don’t normally like to comment twice on a post.but you compared me to Hitler
That’s a very white thing to do anyway
Racism is an act of war. There are many ways to fight a war. You can use physical violence, education, economy and many other things.. When your in a war, you don’t let the people you are in a war with, dictate to you how you should fight that war.
Once Zimmerman, Darren Wilson and Brelo walked free. This has made many whites bold.
I wanna see how bad this cowardly punk thinks he is, when he goes in prison and meets black men who wants to stomp him into oblivion
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Sondis @ why can’t they just condemn a evil and yes, RACIST act that someone from their racial group has done and leave it at that???
Linda says,
Because to these racist POS, they are truly at War with black people!!
That’s why they are online and sole job is to push their agenda and get out their message– that’s why they congregate like flies on sh’t when a story of a black person is printed.
in real life, this is what they want… to start a “race war” — that’s why this “white supremacist drone” picked the easiest targets to go after- church going black people — sheep to slaughter.
I hope black twitter gets on the job to get this Thug labelled a “terrorist” and more of us need to start over talking the white supremacists online who are Actively trying to spin the Narrative
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Sad, really very sad.
Abagond, don’t you think that you are reaching in America the NADIR of racial relations, specially in what concerns the relationship between the White and Black communities?
We are watching a (apparent) peak in police brutality against Blacks, sometimes even para-policial violence (remember the Trayvon Martin case), the grow of right-wing extremist organizations, and now this: mass killers turned RACIST! or racists turned MASS KILLERS!
I’m not surprised that the guy was wearing a jacket with some insignia of old-time white racist regimes in Southern Africa. And I’m not surprised because if you travel across the Net you will find very quickly that (racist) right-wing ideologies are shared by different groups worldwide: from revanchist Afrikaaner groups which still believe in the come-back of Apartheid in “their” Fatherland, to American white racist groups and in between different European ultra-nationalists, etc.
Clearly the guy was trying to make a statement. Not very dissimilar from the Norwegian guy – Anders Breivik – that killed many people a 2 years ago.
People like him live in a fantasy world were people of color do not exist, and they are consumed by rage derived from the fact that the real world is quite different from the world of their dreams.
But the situation, as bad as it can look, is not as worst as it could be if some politician picked up those thought-processes and, being in the helms of power, decided to go “the Fuhrer way” (Mein Kampf).
Right now, these “lone wolves” must be forced to walk in the sidelines of the mainstream of society. And I hope they will remain there for the foreseen time.
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He IS a terrorist. A domestic terrorist. I don’t care if that’s not the term the msm is using. As far as I am concerned that is the proper label. And also, the msm did a poor job announcing what think terrorist did. I only heard about it because of Black twitter and another predominantly Black website that I lurk on. Sometimes I feel like Black people are just under siege lately. If there were somewhere I could go to, I would. In a New York minute. But where can we go? It seems like everywhere is pretty bad for us.
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@ Sondis
I stopped reading Yahoo news because their comment sections were just blatantly racist. It doesn’t surprise me at all what you read. White people seem to always be more concerned with being called or perceived as a racist. They worry more about this than they do about the fact that they might actually be racist. I’ve never understood why being called a racist bothers them so much. Since when does being perceived a racist have a negative effect on their daily lives? Maybe if people of color controlled almost everything on society then I could see them worrying about it. However, white people are the dominant group in society so they don’t really have to worry about it. It’s not like being perceived a racist will keep them from obtaining a car loan or renting an apartment. So what gives?
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Being labeld a racist can have some negative repercussions. You can loose your social circle or your job. I think that is a negative development because it hinders white people from discussing their racism.
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@ LOM
Since when is it possible to limit racist acts of domestic terrorism to one particular geographic area? This is the problem that many people in this country have; they think that all racists who commit such terrible acts are ignorant, slobbering rednecks from the South. Not true. I loved in the Midwest and now reside on the West Coast. I have experienced racial intimidation in both areas. The attitude expressed by thus domestic terrorist is not just found in the South.
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Correction: I LIVED in the Midwest and now reside on the West Coast.
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@ Lord of Mirkwood:
Seriously, after what happened you think it’s helpful to rail at righteously angry words? Hitler was racist, what you are fighting against is REACTION to racism. How calm and tolerant do you expect anyone to be after the murder of 9 people in church? This massacre comes after an ever growing series of murders of POC by whites – pretty often white COPS.
You are focusing on the wrong thing to get mad about.
There are moments when white people may best help the situation by keeping our damned mouths shut for while unless we open them to speak up against the racist bastards who absolutely saturate our communities.
Just read the comments on any story about a racist killing. What sondis said is correct.
Think on that perspective for a while. Then maybe just STFU out of respect.
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Mochasister:
Kartoffel pretty much answered your question.
“Kartoffel
Being labeled a racist can have some negative repercussions. You can loose your social circle or your job. I think that is a negative development because it hinders white people from discussing their racism.”
White people being labeled as a racist is very damaging to a white person.
Just ask Dog the bounty hunter, Paula dead, Michel Richards, Martha steward and the list goes on and on..
Now, can and do they recover? absolutely, being the majority of their fellow white people, agree and share their ideology.
Paula dean launched her own network and released her new book, after the whole racial incident, the book sold out! White racists will support a fellow racist, when the masses of white people will shun them.
White people don’t like when other whites reveal their racist thoughts in public, only in private when nobody is looking is acceptable.
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This was a hate crime committed by a domestic terrorist.
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The devil is alive and well and it’s in people.
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Fox News describes the shooter as an “introverted, pill popper”. As if his penchant for not thinking aloud had anything to do with this.
He had black Facebook friends and didn’t seem racist even though he liked to tell racist jokes.
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I feel like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Even though I grew up post civil rights era America and expected a better future than this – apparently that’s not going to happen. At least not in my lifetime. These racists are boldly killing us and the gun is the modern day noose. To all of the negroes out there who believe in respectability politics and bootstrapping, and proper English, and kowtowing to the man and all that BS, here’s what it gets you. To add insult to injury we have a crazy white woman heading the Spokane NAACP masquerading as black. America feels like the Twilight Zone right now. Maybe it always was.
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@solesearch Don’t get me started on the introvert = crazy person thing. This dude is a sick, racist f*** and a poor excuse for a human being. Neither has nothing to do with introversion. I wish they would just stop with that whole meme. It’s insulting to those of us who are introverts and perfectly well-adjusted.
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I really dislike how they’re trying to peg this as some kind of “one off” or isolated thing some crazy guy did. As if this guy’s actions aren’t a manifestation of white people’s sh!tt!est beliefs informed by hundreds of years of unchecked, convenient race theory. But I get it, they have an image to uphold and if there is any poking and prodding into the environment that produced the hateful little turd, it might look a lot like what some “decent” folk would consider normal and “good”. Can’t have that, not in 2015 where the world can watch, it might actually shut some doors for them.
And seriously? “You rape our women.”? Couple things with that, white men have raped so many women that they’re created new groups of people (some of said women can say NO today and have since been labeled as “combative and ugly”, funny how that works). But you know what, when your main point of self worth hangs on having a narrow set of human features (features that could be washed away easily by more dominant traits I might add), then you invite the paranoia. Which leads to reality of white men being the ones raping white women thanks to their tendency to try to remain separate from “others”. And wtf is “our women” mean anyway? Patriarchal much?
And as for the white supremacist groups distancing themselves from this guy. This is exactly the kind of animal their manifestos breed. I know there’s bound to be some delusion in a community made up of frightened, narrow minded, angry people, but come on! They try so hard to not look insane that they just end up defeating the effort.
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Poetess,
Just because he went and shot up a bunch of black folks for raping his women and trying to take over his country doesn’t make him or his actions racist.
The only thing ppl like this considers racist is calling out racism.
Also, this guy talks about raping white women so he goes and shoots mostly black women…
But it is all because he likes time alone.
Conservatives are a freaking trip.
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After reading a few of the comments sections of various sites, I noticed a couple of things working: white people tried to turn this into a discussion on gun control, white people did not try to strip him of his humanity, white people attempted to play the “he had mental problems” card and just your plain run-of-the-mill racists.
@Pumpkin-As always: truthful and to the point. Well said.
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@TheHipHopRecord There are some racist, a** f*** white folks out there who have done horrific things to POC. But when we start dehumanizing other people, then we are lost. Yes, they are disgusting c*m stains and not worth a ton of dog sh** but unfortunately they are human, as much as it pains me to say. Aside from the straight up sociopathic among them, they can be reformed. That’s not my job though. It’s time for white folks of conscious to stand up like they did during slavery and the civil rights era. It’s time for them to stop making excuses and deal with the racist, human refuse among them.
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“You’re raping our women and taking over our country” : paraphrase of what Roof allegedly said while shooting.
That sums up the two things foremost on the white cultural agenda:
1) Perpetuation of a race of pale people by reproduction among themselves as necessitated by biology
2) Power or control through maintenance of “white supremacy” in order to facilitate the former
Obviously not every white person is a church-bombing extremist but I’d think that most white people imagine a future where a white race exists indefinitely. Therefore they are, at least on some level, on board with the benefits of white supremacy. The extremists and self-described white supremacists just represent the unvarnished unapalogetic truth. Their peers consider their lack of subtlety unsophisticated at this time. So they’d rather cover for them by misrepresenting their behavior as typical of “humans” instead of symptomatic of white aggression, xenophobia, existential anxiety, and racism that has been on display for centuries since they left Europe in numbers (hence the deflecting internet comments sondis noticed).
Anyway, so many of the injustices in America are laced with extreme irony. For much of the Jim Crow period the Black Church, though a vestige of imperialism, functioned as a powerful social force, a promoter of literacy, and a place where activists were incubated. Here, black people were worshipping according to their adaptation of a religion given to them by whites only to be gunned down by a white man during this act of reverence. People who descended from those who’ve had had everything taken were killed for “taking over”.
My thoughts are with that community which must be shaken right now. There aren’t words to express the senselessness of this act of domestic terror. A church was chosen as the site of a mass murder for shock value in order to direct attention to a cause. More black bodies sacrificed to the god white people REALLY serve: their own insatiable lust swirling endlessly around a void of interminable depth.
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Thank you Pumpkin for sharing the site to donate money. I was wondering if there was a way to donate something to the victims’ families. Not that any amount of money is going to bring their loved ones back or ease their pain and suffering.
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I saw the photos of the deceased victims in the church shooting and they all had such beautiful lives and they looked like such beautiful people. My heart is so heavy and sad. Prayers for the surviving family members of the deceased.
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It seems they are trying to blame this on mental illness and the was no mental illness . They always try to down play the killings of Black skin . One day mark my words .
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I am so done talking …have a good journey .
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Gentrification was brought to you by , Bill Clinton.
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Bill Clinton admitted he is responsible for the Black males being locked up. look it up . I am not a racist , I do have a high IQ and my mind just sees people and it makes it very hard on me when I try to separate skin color.
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You guys want to hear something funny that I can’t seem to shake out of my mind??? I get this thought that the only way to heaven is through death and these people that died it was just their time….Does that make sense to you ?
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Albert Einstein said ” Racism is the disease of the white man “. Einstein told a classroom full of Blacks that in 1947 . As far as racism being an act of war where are the bodies ?
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@luciferosirisarnold: Yes i remember reading that about Einstein.
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@ Linda, you are so right on, I bet too he was into video games too . The only fear he might of instilled in me is what I am capable of doing too but I have self -control .
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…and on that note …THERE AINT NOTHIN’ STRONGER THAN LOVE .
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@ Lord of Mirkwood:
That exercise you did earlier, where you did a revised version ot tHHR’s comment… do that again in your head but where you used “Jews”, this time use the “N” word.
See? That sh!t is what POC see on Twitter, on FB, in blog comments all the time. There seem to be MILLIONS of whites who think like that. You are reacting to an isolated rant posted in anger. Get a sense of proportion.
Even if TheHipHopRecords believes every word… in light of current events, your objection seems trivial and irrelevant. This isn’t about YOUR pain. There are bigger things to worry about.
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he’s probably in sgt. al cannon county jail in charleston
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The copycats are on the way too. I think the racist people who are Caucasian are trying to kill us .
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@ Lord of Mirkwood.
I read your blog piece and will have to disagree with the idea that gun control is the solution for ending this kind of domestic terrorism. The focus should be on racism and white supremacy.
Atrocities like this happen all over the world though the majority happen within the U.S. If this shooter hadn’t been able to acquire a weapon he still may have tried other means like fire bombing in order to kill theses people.
(1) (http://www.statista.com/…/number-of-victims-of-mass-shooti…/)
(2).(http://www.thestar.com/…/10_of_the_worst_mass_murders_in_ca…)
32 people have been killed in Canada since 1975 on 13 different school campuses and Canada has pretty strict gun control.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the NRA support and lobbied both Democrats and Republicans which is why gun control legislation rarely passes. A better critique would be that the Democrats and the prisons unions built the current prison industrial complex and it was the Republicans with their “tough on crime” and three strikes laws that filled them up.
I maintain that gun control laws are intended to keep blacks and non whites from possessing firearms. The first gun control laws were passed in California by Ronald Regan with the help of the NRA with the intent purpose of stopping the Black Panthers who at the time had the right to open carry.
(http://www.theatlantic.com/…/the-secret-history-of-…/308608/)
Today some states like Texas have brought back open carry laws and the Huey P. Newton gun club as taken advantage of that to march through the streets of Austin with assault rifles slung over their backs. I believe that all black families should be armed.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILjuGNJ2YY)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnZLLG5X60)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsGEAQ7gAiI)
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I don’t think cases like this are a good example to support gun control. A person who is so determined to kill people might find a way around every control. Think Anders Breivik or the NSU. Of course there are a thousand other reasons for gun control.
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Some of my links are broken:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fmagazine%2Farchive%2F2011%2F09%2Fthe-secret-history-of-guns%2F308608%2F&ei=5nqEVYiHMI-pogSct4KwCA&usg=AFQjCNFLynYquVOGlsuv7_Yzmfxle9eTaw
http://m.thestar.com/#/article/news/canada/2014/12/30/10_of_the_worst_mass_murders_in_canada.html
http://www.statista.com/statistics/248845/number-of-victims-of-mass-shootings-in-western-democratic-countries/
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RIP to the nine women and men whose lives were taken by terrorism and racist hate.
To h##l with Faux news, NRA, Republican apologists, and those nonblacks who still deny the role of race and racial terrorism in America played in the senseless attack. That “man” has an history of racist hate and it shows in his menacing face. Let’s call it what it is, a terrorist hate crime.
Again, may they rest in peace.
SB
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Disgusting. No respect whatsoever.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/charleston-church-shooting/south-carolinas-confederate-flag-not-lowered-half-mast-after-church-n378316
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@Leigh
I am glad they didn’t lower that racist flag. It would be a spit on their graves. What they need to do is burn that flag and take it down.
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@Kiwi
I agree. I play video games, but I’m not plotting a mass murder.
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By next week I feel this place will be shaken with a quake,I feel those people are still in shock. That judge throws the N-word around like nothing, is that how this place is ?
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Make no mistake about this , when someone is forgiven it is not a pass , you still have to pay .
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The kid that killed those 26 kids was into video games, you read too much into my comment, do you have guilty conscious ?
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luciferosirisarnoldl
No, was I suppose to?
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@ sharinalr:
I feel the same way. The fact that the confederate flag is up at all is quite telling.
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He was angry that a girl he liked started dating a black young man. That’s what this is really about. He reminds me of that young Asian guy in California. Angry about the black young men and the young white women.
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The real Jews started off being Black and then were gentrified just like in today’s world . I call most of the Jews in Israel counterfeit Jews .
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Once this racist man, by the way who had many Black friends, realizes his drug induced madness wears off he will probably kill himself . The judge said there was two victims and when I heard him say that I switched the tv off,He is a racist to, How dare he, there was only 9 victims and since when do judge get to talk like that ?
This has come from being and thinking he is untouchable in his courtroom. He needs to go.
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Respect to Debbie Dills the South Carolina florist who was helpful in Dylan Roofs capture.
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I am moved by the survivors who confronted Dylan Roof’s bail hearing. Listening to the news hearing that Roof started not to kill them because everyone was so nice. I also feel that the awful Confederate flag needs to die it is a symbol of racism. The fact that white southerners want to hold on to that repulsive symbol that represents hatred and oppression against black people. It is a legal issue to have the flag removed and that is insane. Then that’s telling about our government. None of these politicians running for president are ignoring that race and the role it’s playing in this country. Call this demon what it is by it’s proper name. Will there be more tragedies like the one in Charleston?
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The only candidate that is addressing the issue of racism is Hilary Clinton the others are not addressing the issue of racism.
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Bill Clinton is reason we have so many Black males in prison and gentrification . Bill said it himself .
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If Blacks get out and vote this horrible day might not have ever happened .
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Learning about the history of the Mother Emmanuel Church and Den Mark Vesy was informative. Denmark Vesey had planned a slave revolt but the plan was leaked and Denmark Vesy was executed. I have also read that Vesy was a real revolutionist even during that era he feared no white man. He would not kowtow to white men and the racist oppression during that time. He plan to kill all the whites in their sleep and escape on a ship to Haiti. But some c00n snitched and Vesy and all those involved were executed.
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Goddammit where’s my 40acres ,Black Wall Street was bombed by you know who and they still are trying to keep that part of history out the class rooms and history books . I feel it is time to resurrect Black Wall Street and for ourselves instead of lining the pockets of those that hate us . What in the hell is wrong with Black any how they pray to white man and they wonder why time has not changed .
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That florist woman did a good thing but this dumb SOB would have got identified sooner or later , he touched the door handle without gloves on
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luciferosirisarnoldl
Explain to me how blacks not voting resulted in a racist white kid killing 9 innocent blacks?
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@Mary
That just goes to show nothing has changed. You always have those blacks that want to save white people, but to what end has saving white people really done for blacks…
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From an account of the massacre:
From:
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150619/PC16/150619306
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The goddamn flag would have been long gone and gentrification would not be , and that means fewer whites in your business and neighborhoods calling the shots . This is not a hate message either.
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I use to get mad at G O D when I would read about how HE instructed Moses to kill everything, men , women , children and cattle. Now I see why he said those things. Had Blacks killed off the racist this would not be a race issue . I feel now we Blacks have walked into a restroom and upon entry you smell poop
and the longer you Blacks stay in the restroom with the poop smell you no longer smell the poop. When are on hunting grounds and it Blacks are the ones being hunted . Remember that sign that says ” No Blacks after dark ” ?
I’ve always heard ” people only let them do to you what you let them do to you”, Well I’ll be damned !
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An East Texas volunteer firefighter was fired for posting on Facebook that the alleged Charleston church shooter Dylann Roof “needs to be praised for the good deed he has done.” The Mabank fire department announced that it has “terminated Kurtis Cook as a volunteer firefighter permanently and has trespassed him from all Mabank Fire Department property. The Mabank Fire Department does not condone nor promote these type of actions or thoughts.”
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The community of Charleston and The Mother Emmanuel Church family and the survivors of the victims have shown great grace and resilience. I know many in the dominant culture expected the black people to riot but that didn’t happen.
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I want peace for all. Someone brain washed that shooter.
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There are no words to convey the utter senselessness of such an abominable act of mass-murder.
My first reaction when i saw Roof on the news: “Why are the police treating him so nicely?” And then I heard that nine Black people were murdered in church! And then that disappointment of a man, Barack Obama, says that there should be more ‘gun control amongst advanced nations’.
No mention of thug, savage, racist,mass-murderer. No hail of bullets issued by police guns.
No call that white people should examine their racism or that white people raise their children to treat others with respect and dignity.
Gleaming from some of the comments of white reactions and reading about it in the media, my take on it is that whites are okay with it . Sure, some do condemn it . And for some, embarrassment .
No absolute outrage, no outright condemnation ,no shame.
And this despicable, vile,evil, sorry excuse for a human being, really. His heart so contracted and contorted with hatred. What a small person. What a life.
Commenting from afar, one of the things that that really strikes one is that (white) Americans really loves their guns. It is pathological. And the rabid racism.
As much as this(mass-murder) is an extreme act of depravity, I would say that this not unusual for white people. Of course I am not saying that all white people are gun- toting mass-murderers. Some/many would not want to get their hands dirty and secretly or not,celebrate, tacitly agree with, downplay,explain away, exonerate their contract killers of Black people. White exoneration of their inhumanity against humanity it is a fine art honed and perfected for centuries.
I might comment later or not about forgiveness. It becomes more apparent that Black people the world over have two qualities that white people generally lack: magnanimity and empathy.
I will not be able to quote Malcolm X verbatim: “I shall never tire of telling the white man about himself.” or words that effect. I prefer his words .
And the words of another giant -Steve Biko: “There exists among men, because they are men, a solidarity through which each shares responsibility for every injustice and every wrong committed in the world, and especially for crimes that are committed in his presence or of which he cannot be ignorant’.
This description of ‘metaphysical guilt ‘ explains adequately that white racism ‘is only possible because whites are indifferent to suffering and patient with cruelty’ meted out to the black man…………………………………………………..
There is nothing the matter with blacks. The problem is WHITE RACISM and it rests squarely on the laps of white society.”
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Pardon.
A few corrections: Gleaning
Americans really love their guns.
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..Oh, how my head and heart aches for Yet Another tragic killing of innocent Black citizens in this so-called “Union”, it is certainly time (in my opinion, and I am sure a lot of others these days) for POC (especially Black folk) to get their bags metaphorically and Literally packed and begin anew someplace else. As a matter of fact, all peoples o’ “color” need to stop the bickering and pettiness that exists between some of these groups, and get together because if they come for Black folks trust and believe the other groups are next, too! The short film named “Space Traders” comes to mind, right now..
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..May the 9 victims of Charleston rest in peace, and power!!!
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Shh, don’t tell anyone this but I am Adeen under a new user name. I just started a new blog called Black Feminist Haven and I am here to see if anyone here is interested in reading the post I wrote for the blog. And my first blog post is also based on this incident as well.
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Here is my blog post on this incident. https://blackfeministhaven.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/how-upholding-white-femininity-was-used-to-justify-horrific-crimes-committed-against-black-men-and-women/
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Rest in peace to the Charleston 9 today is a year that the beast Dylan Roof took their lives.
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@ Mary Burrell
Thank you for remembering.
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@Afrofem: I will always remember them.
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You guys hate whites but you are part white,does that mean you are going to commit horrindous crimes,no…it does not,anglos are from all over the world,blacks are from where there own people kill each other because they can.Stop the hate,and the excuses,my neaghbor was an old man,6 black men broke into his house .the police where called in and just as the old guys gets home the police arrive and stop what they were planning to do.if the old guy had intered his home,the worse could have happened.we can all protect our families,
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@ Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
What the ever-lasting h-ll is wrong with you?? The old white man in your anecdote is alive and well. The nine black people who are the subject of this blog post were viciously murdered in cold blood by a white supremacist solely because of the color of their skin. There is no comparison.
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