A phantom black assailant (1920s- ) is an imagined black person who is blamed for a crime, most often by a white American who is trying to cover up the truth about himself. This has been going on since at least the 1920s.
Some examples:
1923: Fannie Taylor – covered up a violent love affair with a white man by saying that it was a black man who had beat her up. As the story spread, rape and robbery were soon added. Whites burned down the nearby black town of Rosewood, Florida. At least six blacks and two whites were killed.
1994: Susan Smith – said a black man took her car at gunpoint with her two little boys still in it and drove it into a lake. It turns out she was the one who drove the car into the lake to kill her sons.
2008: Joseph C. Vignola, Jr – said he was having sex with a call girl when a “light-skinned black man” burst into the hotel room and cut her throat. But it was Vignola who cut her throat, taking back his money and leaving her for dead.
2008: Ashley Todd – said she was robbed at gunpoint at a bank machine by “six-foot-four African American of medium build, dressed in dark clothes wearing shiny shoes”. When he saw the McCain sticker on her car he cut a B on her cheek and said, “You are going to be a Barack supporter.” Police noticed the B was backwards: she had done it to herself using a mirror.
2009: Bonnie Sweeten – hoping to disappear with money she took from her employer, called the police to tell them that she and her nine-year-old daughter had been forced into the trunk of a car by two black car thieves. The police found her and her daughter – at Disney World!
2010: Robert Ralston – himself a police officer, said a black man with “cornrows” and a “mark or tattoo under his left eye” put a gun to his head and wound up shooting him in the shoulder. After a huge manhunt the police found the shooter: Ralston himself!
2010: Bethany Storro – said that a black woman came up to her outside of a Starbucks and asked, “Hey pretty girl, want something to drink?” and then threw acid in her face. But it was Storro herself who put acid on her face.
Worse than the lies themselves is how readily they are believed.
Apparently to white people it is reasonable to expect a black person to:
- Hold a gun to a policeman’s head.
- Kidnap or kill children to steal a car.
- Appear out of nowhere to hurt white people they do not even know – with no apparent benefit to themselves.
This comes from the black brute stereotype – blacks as having a violent, savage, immoral nature that they have a hard time controlling. Particularly true for big black men. A fear whites have had since the 1870s shortly after blacks were freed from being slaves. In fact, though, most crime against whites comes not from blacks but from other whites and is done for all the ancient, all-too-human reasons.
See also:
It looks like an alien!
That picture is really scary. I mean, really scary.
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Right. Maybe I should do a sister post on UFOs.
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Maybe they get mixed about alien humanoids and blacks?
Seriously, this has been going on years and years in States. And it still does. Really weird concerning that there are more black police officers now a days than ever before. But I guess it is like they say in Casablanca: Round up the usual suspects.
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Let me ask you all a question before I proceed because I truly want to get this right. And I’ll be blunt. Perhaps this question is from ignorance, let me know.
How do I reconcile the facts laid before us that black men and black people in general are many times more violent and aggressive – according to crime statistics – than white men and white people in general?
I’m in a quandary on this topic. On the one hand I see the root cause for white women who do crazy things to blame black perpetrators…given our knowledge of crime statistics it is easier for people to believe that a black person committed a crime.
But my explaining this phenomenon doesn’t excuse these white womens’ behavior.
Now, I ask you, how should I handle this quandary? What should my thought process be here? If I were to drop the racial component altogether and view this as a human issue I would be ignoring stark patterns of behavior.
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@Abagond
After the UFO post do a post about goblins. One showed up at my house for not reason and threw acid on my unicorn’s face.
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Indeed you are right , Chuck.
Mentally challenged white persons who blame imaginary black individuals and people, backed by loosely interpreted statistical criminal data have one thing in common.
They want to masquerade their internal chaos and conflict into a front of rationality. For them , rationality is an invaluable commodity, and the stigma of Chaos of the stereotypical “black brute” who leap out of the shadows , only to disappear once its crime is done, is too much an usual and practical suspect for them to ignore.
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Chuck:
The black crime RATE is higher but there are way more whites, so it does not make up for it in most cases. In addition, most crime is same-race: black-on-black, white-on-white, etc. Because most crime is done against people one already knows and America is a pretty divided place. Crime from strangers is more frightening and makes for better television, yes, but it is less common in practice. This is even more true for women than for men.
So “a black man did it” is based on stereotype, on “what white people believe”, not on a close and fair reading of crime statistics.
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It has become so commonplace that it is becoming more difficult to actually convict that indiscriminate Black person.
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It’s true, Americans see the average criminal as being a black male. The WP on Abagond’s list are all crazy of course and don’t represent the average white person, but they have enough sense to realize that if your going to make up an imaginary criminal and you don’t want people to think too hard about motive, pick a black person. Then everyone will just assume your telling the truth because blacks are violent criminals. Even blacks, many of whom seem to have bought into this stereotype as well.
Also It might be worth noting how this black brute myth is perpetuated from within the black community though I may not be the best person to try and elaborate on that. I will say that my own fear of black men was strongly reinforced by the Hip-Hop I listened to as a kid, NWA and the like. Along with movies and t.v. shows created by whites.
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“the facts laid before us that black men and black people in general are many times more violent and aggressive ”
Funny, but very revealing that somebody says this out loud. And there in lies the problem: somebody actually believes this bull.
I recommend Chuck a little visit to any fooball pitch in Great Britain, France, Germany and/or Italy. Greece or Turkey will also do. If you really want to learn something about aggression, check some local derbys in Poland and Russia. All of those guys are white to the bone and nobody can claim that they are behaving peacefully or passive. So…
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Here some football enthusiasts discuss about the beautiful game and its prettier aspects, peacefully and non aggressively as only white men can, hmm, in a civilized way.
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good post. good examples…
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LMAO @Aiyo
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ROFLOL @ Aiyo.
Good post, Abagond.
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Lol! You remembered Ashley Todd, too.
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crime statics say white middle aged men commit the most violent crimes. one thing i liked about the author michael moore is that in the book ‘STUPID WHITE MEN” he has a chapter where he says white people have a mental illness when it comes to crime. we all know a white man will kidnap you, your child and your pets and rape then muder and mutilate you and film it all. we know white men like making that easy money by kidnapping children and selling them to the child pornograpers. like i’ve said on this site before, white people do things to people black people cant even IMAGINE let alone actually do them. just watch SNAPPED AND ALL THE FORENSIC AND COLD CASE FILES, WICKED ATTRACTION (where they show the white women helping the white men do horrible shit to people including children.) the white women are the ones that lure the children. white people think black people dont know about their crimes. thanks cable tv for showing white people and their horrific crimes.
they showed this white man one time that was kidnapping little boys, murdering them and buryings their bodies in the concret of a storage unit he was renting. AND he had other little white boys helping him!!! whats wrong with white people??? i could go on and on about the horrible crimes they show white people doing on these shows but i’ll stop now.
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I’m sure people of all races in America will find a stooly of another race to blame fictitious crimes on.
Many people remember the Susan Smith case but few may recall that a few months before that incident a female German tourist was pulled out of her car, beaten and raped by black thugs in the city of Miami. Smith’s story was, therefore, based on a possible, logical truth.
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Toby, the argument is not that there are no Black thugs who beat people up in America… that’s ridiculous. There are obviously thugs of every color in the U.S.
The point is that it seems to be becoming a trend, in many high profile cases, that a non existent Black person is blamed for a non-existent crime, by White people.
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This post is so funny! LOL@ the stories of some white people.
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“How do I reconcile the facts laid before us that black men and black people in general are many times more violent and aggressive – according to crime statistics – than white men and white people in general?”
That’s part of the problem Chuckee, you can’t draw that conclusion simply by reading crime statistics. All the crime statistics tell you is how many crimes were attributed to a single ethnicity, en masse.
For example, if the Robinson family has 12 siblings, and 3 of the brothers are habitual criminals, but the rest of them never have been arrested, then the crime statistics for the whole family (as a group) would still be quite high. However, in reality, 11 out of the 14 Robinsons have never even committed a crime.
That’s why statements like: “black people in general are many times more violent,” are incorrect. The statistics do not say that at all. They are not a predictor of the propensities of all Black people, in general. Rather, they are a reflection of the activities of the particular sub culture of Black criminals.
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a female German tourist was pulled out of her car, beaten and raped by black thugs in the city of Miami.
I dont believe you. This sounds like something you made up. So she was pulled out of her car and raped right then and there on the spot? Post a link please.
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How do I reconcile the facts laid before us that black men and black people in general are many times more violent and aggressive – according to crime statistics – than white men and white people in general?
Firstly, note that crime statistics aren’t all that reliable. When carrying out the same crime (eg. drugs), black people are more likely to get caught by the police than white people, due to racial profiling tactics used to target and search black people. (heard of driving while black?) When charged in court for the same crime, black people are more likely to be convicted than white people. These and other factors make things look more skewed than they really are.
Secondly, realise that crime is strongly correlated with socioeconomic background, and not with race. That is to say, if we compare the crime rates between black people and white people of similar economic background (and similar this, that and the other), we would immediately find no significant difference.
Lastly, refrain from perpetuating the unproven idea that black men (and women) possess an innate “violent and aggressive” nature. In the absense of compelling evidence, it is sheer malice to suggest this is true. We all admit there is a nasty mess in some sections of the black community, but to attribute acts of delinquency to our nature is an oversimplistic explanation, which only serves to exacerbate the problem by fuelling hatred towards black men.
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Reading this is admittedly disturbing, but I would be lying if I said I was surprised. Yes, there are people who despise black people so much that they would maim themselves (the more gruesome, the better) just to make up a tale where a anonymous black man/woman did this or that to them. I could say I pity the stupid, but that may imply I care enough to have some sincere feeling for racist fools. Far, far from it.
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Yep, Chuck whites are never violent and aggresive. After all, it was black people who kidnapped, enslaved, beat, raped and terrorized whites for hundreds of years in the Americas. It was blacks who , stole land in the Americas and Australia from the native folks and nearly wiped them out in the process. White folks weren’t the aggressors and participants of the two most violent wars in the history of mankind thanks to modern technologies. Yep it is blacks who tried to wipe out an entire ethnic-religious group and murdered 6 million of them in concentration camps and another 5 million who we didn’t like for various reasons. Black folks invented guns, the nuclear bomb, the hydrogen bomb, fighter jets, and all sorts of other weapons of mass destruction. OH WAIT, I’m sorry, I have that backwards! Now who is more violent and destructive???
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Yes, and it was black Africans who helped sell those same Africans to white Europeans. Your point?
Western world whites were the first civilization to *end* slavery. But that point is never mentioned.
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“Many people remember the Susan Smith case but few may recall that a few months before that incident a female German tourist was pulled out of her car, beaten and raped by black thugs in the city of Miami. Smith’s story was, therefore, based on a possible, logical truth.”
Here’s the article about the German tourist, I believe. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/21/us/miami-tourism-gains-as-crime-rate-drops.html
– There was no rape whatsoever.
– There was no beating up whatsoever.
– The culprits stalked tourist cars with the intention of robbing.
– They snatched her purse and ran back to their car. She banged on their window, pulled on the door handle, tripped and fell as their car drove off, and thus got injured.
I’m not trying to defend any criminals here; but to say that Susan Smith’s story was based on an actual incident just doesn’t add up. There is absolutely no resemblance between Smith’s story and the German tourist incident, except that a car was part of the story.
Frankly, Smith was just another stupid woman like Bethany Storro who made up a story that just didn’t add up. Why would anyone want to kidnap Smith’s kids and dump them in a lake? What does one gain from it?
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Chuck:
LJ’s point is that whites have been far more violent than blacks. So for you to sit here and say that “black men and black people in general are many times more violent and aggressive” shows a profound blindness about the nature of white people.
The main difference between black violence and white violence is that whites get away with it and write the history books and news stories.
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Big ups to jelee, chompingchomp, LJ, and King.
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Toby said:
“Many people remember the Susan Smith case but few may recall that a few months before that incident a female German tourist was pulled out of her car, beaten and raped by black thugs in the city of Miami. Smith’s story was, therefore, based on a possible, logical truth.”
Whatever you can say about Susan Smith’s story, “logical truth” is not one of them.
It goes against all reason that anyone, ANYONE, would
a) steal a car with small children still in it,
b) drive a car into a lake, killing the children and losing the car he just stole.
How in the world would a black car thief benefit from such actions? What is the motive? It makes no kind of sense. At all. Those are the actions of someone who wants those children dead – and why would a black car thief want them dead?
And yet at the time from what I remember it was only black people who saw that. CNN ran the story to death and took the thing dead seriously. What in the world does that say about their view of black people?
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Thank you, Abagond. The things some people will defend.
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LOL@ Aiyo!
Thanks Sam, for posting the clip on Russian football hooligans. I have to say, white men’s aggression is really underrated, and black men’s aggression totally blown out of proportion.
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lol @ the alien comments…
Seriously though, that used to be some of my fears as a young man living for a few years in the USA, to be stitched up by some “eye witness” who might think I look like some criminal they’re after. Or that I might fit the bill just because somebody doesn’t like my arab-looking, foreign, brown face. Or by some overzealous rozzer with a promotion in mind.
I think scapegoating is still a big issue in the US. There are quite a few cases, some of which made it into the media. It seems like it’s not about justice or finding the truth, it’s first of all about finding a “guilty one”, whoever it is, preferably someone from a minority. And it’s a lot about retaliation.
@Sam as for the Russian hooligans. That’s still mild compared to what certain Brits and some Germans are able to pull off…
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“Seriously though, that used to be some of my fears as a young man living for a few years in the USA, to be stitched up by some “eye witness” who might think I look like some criminal they’re after. Or that I might fit the bill just because somebody doesn’t like my arab-looking, foreign, brown face.”
Femi, I feel awful that black and other brown men face this issue. I wish more people would open their eyes and see how this tiresome myth of crazed, brutish black malehood affects real people. Some comments I’ve read on this and the Bethany Storro post just show that some individiuals are not conscious of the fact that there are real people being affected by this cr*p. Totally miss the issue at hand, and go off arguing along tangents about jealousy and pet theories and slavery.
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I’m sure people of all races in America will find a stooly of another race to blame fictitious crimes on.
I’ve only heard of the phantom black boogy man phenomena in the States. I have never heard or read of this type of scenario or characterization being applied to any other group. Since most of these people who proclaim, “according to statistics”, use this to paint all blacks as more violent and aggressive, this appears to nothing but another stereotype. The news looks out for sensational cases and reports accordingly. Only a fool believes everything they see on television. Even the pedophiles get less press unless they kill a child, or commit some other heinous act against children, or are actually apprehended after molesting dozens of children. Is one to infer that all white men are potential child molesters? Not if they are rational human beings. Why infer such about black people?
Most of the crimes are socioeconomic in nature as someone else posted here previously. The murders and shootings stem from ‘turf’ wars and competition for the illicit markets. This is indeed a sub-culture. Because of the socioeconomic deprivations of these black criminals, they are and will be hard pressed to find good legal representation in order to beat the charges against them. Hence the disproportionate incarceration of blacks. This would apply to other socioeconomic disadvantaged groups as well. In other words, your fu**ed!
Most of the distributes and suppliers aren’t black, that is where the real money is. The black criminals are nothing but bullet fodder and a source of income for those who gain jobs in the prisons. The justice system is biased as well and this is evinced in the anti-drug laws. As for the black phantom assailant, this is nothing but an urban myth fed upon by racist stereotypes. Statistics only go so far if devoid of context. It is bizarre to say the least. It says more about the people who believe this than it does about the group from which these damaging stereotypes are drawn from.
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@ Femi: I know, but didn’t you read what I said? These guys ase discussing about the beautiful game in civilized white manner. Notice how orderly the meeting is, at least in its first moments. And notice how all have their say on the matter at hand. 😀
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Excellent post ‘Herneith’. And here I believed that the poor German woman had been beaten and raped all this time. smh.
Late one night coming from work on the train, a group of ‘rowdy’ and loud young black men boarded the train. They made a few wise cracks at my expense, about working people, looking tired, and even asked if they could go home with me (lol, I had a hard day).
They left me alone, but were so loud and fidgity, that I moved to another part of the train, where several white and hispanic passengers were sitting. Sitting across from me was a young white male, who commented on the ‘disruptive’ behavior of the frolicking black youth. I gestured, yes, they were a bit noisome. My stop came, and I deboarded the train, and began to walk towards my place of residence; I look behind me and recognize the young white male is behind me, I nod my head in recognition; he suddenly says, “are you afraid?” “Do you fear me?” Wait. What? He asks, “Is your heart beating faster?”
I thought, great, I’m going to have to fight my way out of a possible violent altercation with this person.
I began to hasten my pace towards my home, desperately searching for my keys. He calls out to me, to not run. No, buddy, I am running. I make it to the apartment building where I lived (security building), and quickly opened the the front hall door. I looked back behind me, out into the night, and he is standing across the street, quietly. I had move from the noisy young black youth on the train, only to encounter a more sinister personality.
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As for black people being more ‘violent and ‘aggressive’, just bone up on the history of race riots in the United States. Most of the ones in the early 1900s’ were triggered by this phantom black assailant, false accusations of raping white women. The Tulsa Race Riots of 1921, a white woman claimed that she was assaulted by a black man. Many were slaughtered and left homeless. The Omaha riot of 1919, in which a young man by the name of Will Brown was lynched and burned for allegedly ‘sexually assaulting’ a white woman. Pictures of this lynching are on the internet. Lynchings were usually triggered by these phantom black assailants. So this ‘phantom black assailant’ while bizarre in its conception was, is greatly damaging. Today, instead of lynching black people in reality, they do so by ‘lynching them in print, media, internet etc. It is no coincidence that some of these blogs try to represent blacks as ‘violent’ and ‘aggressive’, this is just a continuum of what has come before. Same sh*t, different toilet bowl!
@Oyan:
Oh no Oyan, according to statistics, this man probably just wanted to befriend you. Did you call the police? On second thought, they probably wouldn’t have done anything anyway, unless of course the outcome had been different. Even then, they would have looked for the ‘phantom black assailant’!
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This thread inspired me to actually read the crime stats page on wikipedia. worth reading if you haven’t yet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States
Abagond said
“The black crime RATE is higher but there are way more whites, so it does not make up for it in most cases.”
I might be reading it wrong but it looks like the percentages are of total violent crimes committed overall. I admit i’m a bit confused.
Also, it says 83% of all White victims and 90% of all Black victims are murdered by individuals of the same race. So in reality, a phantom white assailant would be a way better cover story if your white.
@ Oyan
aaaahhh creeepy!
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It says something in this day and age where stuff like this “acid victim” gets ridiculed rather than treated as a victim, as would have happened in earlier American history. Those stereotypes are archaic and we got stragglers coming in, AKA Bethany Storro.
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jas0nburns said:
‘Also, it says 83% of all White victims and 90% of all Black victims are murdered by individuals of the same race. So in reality, a phantom white assailant would be a way better cover story if your white. “
Just my point. Chuck was saying a black assailant is more believable – and it is to white people, but not because of crime statistics properly read, like he was saying, but because of stereotypes whites have about blacks, as I said in the post.
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@Oyan
That is some scary sh!t!
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Yes, and it was black Africans who helped sell those same Africans to white Europeans. Your point?
Western world whites were the first civilization to *end* slavery. But that point is never mentioned.
incorrect yet again…western world was not the 1st civilization to end slavery there were entire groups of africans who lived in peace and formed entire armies…yes advanced armies to stop the spread of the atlantic slave trade, the katanga dynasty in addition a senegalese king outlawed slavery in his kingdom far BEFORE the europeans ended the slave trade, so that is incorrect yet again…
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“Western world whites were the first civilization to *end* slavery. But that point is never mentioned.”
oh and another thing…western whites (all of them lol) just magically decided to end slavery right?? Out of the goodness of their pure hearts they just decided to end it? There were no wars, no economic treaties, none of that contributed to slavery being removed right… oh and black abolitionist had nothing to do w/ slavery ending either…okay whatever.
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that picture doesn’t even look like a black woman…
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“Yes, and it was black Africans who helped sell those same Africans to white Europeans. Your point?
Western world whites were the first civilization to *end* slavery. But that point is never mentioned.”
Hey abagond, i think this would be an interesting posts…the notion that africans *supposedly* sold african-americans out to the europeans, so that excuses the slave trade/cruelty and white racism overall…that would be a good post.
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Peanut,
Chuck is forgetting about the century of White American-enforced apartheid after slavery. But I’m sure he’ll have some rationale about how that was somehow all Black people’s fault.
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The history of slavery is something that nobody can be proud of it. I think the first ones to use slaves in a massive scale were the egyptians. I doubt if the sumerians had that many slaves at their disposal, but the egyptians certainly did. Then the greeks, romans ( who really industrialized the thing), arabs, others, one after another.
There are no “race” in this planet that has not at some point of time in its history participated in slavery.
The interesting thing is this: USA was the last of the so-called western countries to deny slavery. Officially at least. Also one has to remember that in imperial Russia there were so-called land slaves in practice long after it was supposed to be stopped and there were millions of them.
But the practice of slavery is still alive in Africa, for example in the cocoa fields where they emply child slaves. Litterally. In China they are using prisoners to work in factories producing goods more cheaply than anybody else can do. In USA some companies operating via phones are using prisoners as work force too, such as in telemarketing etc. That is in all its practicality a slave work.
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Peanut, abagond’s been through the “Africans sold other Africans” argument a million times. Check old posts. I can’t even believe Chuck is bringing up that tired, old statement as if he say’s something new and unique — gold star Chucky! Actually… I can believe it.
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Since this post is definitely not about slavery, I won’t even get into that. But all these statements regarding slavery in Africa (made by whites, of course!) are negating to include all factors. Including the strong hand that Europe had in both domestic and external slavery in Africa. It’s never wise to look at a situation in isolation, especially not something that is so vast, context-dependent, and dynamic as slavery.
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Abagond says:
“How in the world would a black car thief benefit from such actions? What is the motive? It makes no kind of sense. At all. Those are the actions of someone who wants those children dead – and why would a black car thief want them dead?
And yet at the time from what I remember it was only black people who saw that. CNN ran the story to death and took the thing dead seriously. What in the world does that say about their view of black people?
These white people (Storro, Smith, etc) know that their stories are ridiculous, since there is no motive or logic behind the supposed crime. They fix this by replacing the white assailant with a black one; after all, black people have this innate, excess aggression in their nature, and sometimes need to let it out by committing random acts of violence.
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“I can’t even believe Chuck is bringing up that tired, old statement as if he say’s something new and unique — gold star Chucky!”
LOL!
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Oyan, I love your writing style! Your encounter reads like a short story 😀 I feel like I want to read what happens next… You should sell a story and make money out of this incident 😉
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The strange thing about the composite sketch given by Storro to police is that it looks exactly like the Hispanic woman that was actually attacked with acid. Her name is Derri Velarde from Arizona. Another thing is Ms. Velarde was ACTUALLY attacked but she hasn’t gotten nearly as much press as Storro who lied about her attack. Authorities believe the acid attack on Ms.Velarde was a copycat attack inspired by the faked attack of Storro.
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Since this post is definitely not about slavery,
Natasha,
Don’t you know by now that damn near EVERY post Abagond makes here has GOT to somehow devolve into anti-Black bashing?
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“Don’t you know by now that damn near EVERY post Abagond makes here has GOT to somehow devolve into anti-Black bashing?”
Its almost like fighting zombies isn’t it? no matter how many you smack down they just keep coming.
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@Jada
I know, I think the woman who attacked Derri did it as a retalliation or something. I want more attention to be focused on Verlade instead of Storro
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Why the hell are people speaking to Chuck? His ilk have already been dealt with a thousand times. For the love of God, he sounds like Guy-friggin’-White.
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Ankh,
You done tried to tell ’em!
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To Chompingcomp
Frankly, Smith was just another stupid woman like Bethany Storro who made up a story that just didn’t add up. Why would anyone want to kidnap Smith’s kids and dump them in a lake? What does one gain from it?
No… she never claimed that the alleged car jacker had taken her sons and dumped then into a lake. She was on the radio pleading for their return since she had supposedly last seen them being driven off by a carjacker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith
There have definitely been incidents where car jackers have taken cars with kids in them, in this particular instance the car jacker contacted authorities after he realized that there was a child in the car:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/louisvillewhas-tv11-15750817/baby-found-safe-after-alleged-carjacker-steals-car-with-infant-inside-22263553
But apparently the police were suspicious about her story from the beginning… “It later emerged that investigators had been suspicious of Smith’s story from the beginning and believed she had actually killed her own children. From the second day of the investigation the authorities suspected that Smith knew where the children were. It was their hope that the children were still alive. Lakes and ponds began being searched, even the lake in which the children were eventually found. The reason for not finding the children earlier is because the authorities only thought the car could have traveled out about thirty feet and that was the extent of the search. Later they found out that the car was about sixty feet out; this was because of the speed the car had when it entered the lake and it drifted out on top of the water for about thirty feet. She’d taken a polygraph along with David two days after the boys disappeared. The results were inconclusive, but showed that she was lying when she said she didn’t know where the boys were. She was polygraphed during every subsequent interview with investigators, and failed that question each time. There were also no other cars near the intersection where Smith said the carjacking had occurred. A big break in the case had to do with Smith’s story on where she was carjacked. The particular red light at which she said she stopped is only triggered when a car is coming from the opposite direction. According to her, there were no other cars around so there would be no reason for her to stop at this intersection.”
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This is why Freedomland (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0349467/) is such a brilliant movie! so profound. And I am glad it was made in a contemporary time setting to let people know that this ridiculous practice still takes place.
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It always “later emerges that authorities were suspicious from the beginning.” Bullsh*t. Where’s that sane, rational reserve in racial profiling? Or in the gusto with which such cases are pursued? Smith had these same authorities searching SEVEN states for an imaginary person. The Portland authorities shelled out $12000 investigating for Bethany Storro. Discerning individuals don’t do this. They proceed quietly and cautiously & certainly don’t go villainizing people of a specific group on national news.
This denial of accountability by the authorities is no different from the denial of white citizens who repeatedly pretend as though they didn’t go all-out racist whenever these cases arise. Claiming to be skeptical all along is just another convenient cop-out to avoid looking like the overpaid, incompetent racist sh*theads they really are.
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To Ank:
It always “later emerge(d)s that authorities were suspicious from the beginning.” Bullsh*t. Where’s that sane, rational reserve in racial profiling?
Non-sequitur.. my discussion was specifically about Susan Smith.. I am sure there are cases that are not handled as well. This investigation, however was handled well.
Or in the gusto with which such cases are pursued? Smith had these same authorities searching SEVEN states for an imaginary person.
No…. you don’t much about police investigations…. it’s called CYA…. pursue all leads even if you have strong doubts about the person’s story. Especially when the person is getting on the radio begging for her kids to be returned.
The Portland authorities shelled out $12000 investigating for Bethany Storro.
That’s chump change for a police investigation that got national publicity…
Discerning individuals don’t do this. They proceed quietly and cautiously & certainly don’t go villainizing people of a specific group on national news.
Well that would lead me to the Duke Lacrosse Rape case and Crystal Gail Magnum which was not exactly handled in a cautious and quiet manner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_case
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And my discussion was obviously not specifically about Susan Smith. And since mothers of color aren’t given the Missing White Woman treatment – hence the name – when they report their missing kids, I know you meant to write “when a white woman” is on some radio begging to get her kids back…you know, from the lake where she drowned them.
Procedure is not etched in stone. If authorities really do sense an alleged victim is lying, then the focus should be placed on them. Cognitive interviews can be applied, and they are…when the accused isn’t a phantom black assailant who spurs a media storm and brings out the online lynch mob.
$12000 was too much to spend on Storro, especially when one doctor pointed out she hadn’t even been splashed, and the store where she claimed to buy her sunglasses exposed her lie.
The guys from Duke weren’t imaginary which, last I checked, was kind of a theme with our OP. But thanks anyway for the lack of illuminating convo, Thad 2.0.
*returns to ignoring you*
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Hey, Abagond…
Isn’t hilarious how some white folks, in their infinite desperation, rehash the same 1-3 cases to prove…you know, nothing about black people? PLEASE tell me you’ve done a post on that.
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Gee, Milton, I can’t tell if we’ve been praised or insulted. 😀
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To Ank:
The guys from Duke weren’t imaginary which
My response was specifically to your statement of They proceed quietly and cautiously & certainly don’t go villainizing people of a specific group on national news.
Point being in the Duke case most assuredly a specific group of people was villainized on national news…. the attack was imaginary…and neither the media, police, prosecution, nor some of the University staff proceeded cautiously…I can find an example to fit your theme if you’d like.
Isn’t hilarious how some white folks, in their infinite desperation, rehash the same 1-3 cases to prove…you know, nothing about black people?
How many would you like Ank..? Abagond has listed 7 false accusations by Whites against Blacks.. there are about 5.5 times as many Whites as Blacks so inherently there should be more false accusations. To show my infinite desperation I will post two more false accusations by Whites against Blacks, one case (the Charles Stuart..) that did inflame racial tensions and resulted in one Black man’s arrest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stuart_(murderer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Anderson
Are racial hoaxes directed People of Color towards Whites common (or vice versa..) ? Not really but they do occur:
http://www.kgw.com/home/Happy-Valley-teen-admits-hate-crime-hoax-102190119.html
http://journalstar.com/news/local/article_68d851ea-a796-11de-b305-001cc4c03286.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/13/facebook.racial.threat/
http://media.www.trinitytripod.com/media/storage/paper520/news/2008/11/04/News/Campus.Climate.Dialogue.Continues-3522799.shtml
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DttQO_w3ObcJ:findarticles.com/p/news-articles/inland-valley-daily-bulletin/mi_8075/is_20070531/worker-kidnap-report/ai_n47524556/+eft+on+his+own+accord,%22+said+Detective+Jesse+Venegas+in+a+statement+released+Wednesday.+%22The+entire+event+was+a+fabrication&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/12/AR2007091200044.html
http://www.startribune.com/local/11594256.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2025316/posts
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2007-12-02/news/0712020015_1_maynard-rope-fire-department
Article about hoaxes perpetrated by Whites and Blacks:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/33418529.html
I view any racial hoax (there have also been hoaxes alleging assaults against gays and lesbians..) as highly problematic and inflammatory.
As for Susan Smith gaining a bully pulpit via radio to beg the return of her sons.. yes I am sure being a White woman helped in this instance.
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To Thad:
Gee, Milton, I can’t tell if we’ve been praised or insulted.
I think the answer is yes.. 😉
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[…] phantom black assailants « Abagond A phantom black assailant (1920s- ) is an imagined black person who is blamed for a crime, most often by a white American who is trying to cover up the truth about himself. This has been going on since at least the 1920s. (tags: crime racism usa stereotypes) […]
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In recent phantom black assailant news a nun accused a Black man of rapingto hide the fact she was have a little slap and tickle with a bodega worker.
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“In recent phantom black assailant news a nun accused a Black man of rapingto hide the fact she was have a little slap and tickle with a bodega worker.”
Dark fantasy?
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That must be some sort of psychological aberration. They aren’t just raped, it’s always a black man that serapes them. Sort of like the HBDers and brain to penis size ratio!
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And we have another one to add to the list and she like all the others has “psychological issues”
http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-nypd-wife-lied-about-attack,0,5595002.story
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Abagond, good post as usual.
You forgot Charles Stuart, though. Cowardly bastard killed himself upon indictment, but he blamed the shooting of his pregnant wife on a black man.
Marky Mark Wahlberg talked about this in The Wildside, which was recorded AFTER he blinded that Vietnamese man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stuart_(murderer)
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[…] Phantom Black Assailants […]
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Your arguments and idology are based on a delusional, one sided, bias, self invention that black people were just minding their own business and the white man captured and sild them into slavery. But you never include proof, factual evidence, just your word, and the ill-informed believe this drivel. Read, or watch the words of prof. Henry louis Gates jr.(black prof.) Read, or watch his work, that’s factual evidence, educated proof, not just “your word” then decide what’s true. Not this anti white propaganda nonsense!
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Howard Gates(or whatever his name is), is one of the biggest kerchief heads around. Figures you’d quote him.
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