“Shopping while black” is the “crime” of shopping while being a black person. It is not supposed to be a crime but you would not know it the way some shopkeepers seem to assume you are going to take something the minute their back is turned.
In one well-known example a woman and two of her friends from work went to Old Navy during lunch. They were respectably dressed. But despite that when they entered the store the police were informed of a “gang of shoplifters” – based on little more than the fact that the three women were black. The police came and held them for 90 minutes even though they had shoplifted nothing.
It is not just “certain blacks” either – most blacks in America have had the experience of being followed or closely watched while shopping, of not being trusted. One black woman put it this way:
I’m very careful about how I move throughout the store…. I try not to put my hands in my pockets. You internalize a lot of the heightened racial scrutiny.
Meanwhile on the Internet people say stuff like this about blacks:
… they just point the finger at the white community and cry racism, whenever they see white folks reacting reasonably to the uncivilized tendencies at the core of their own culture.
With the way some shopkeepers act you would think they did an Internet search and found out that most shoplifters are black.
In fact most people arrested for shoplifting in America are white – about 70% according to the FBI. And that comes in the teeth of racial profiling aimed at blacks and Latinos! According to one study shoplifters are most commonly white women in their twenties and early thirties.
A store at the Barton Creek Square mall near Austin, Texas is being taken to court for singling out black shoppers for suspected shoplifting: FBI numbers show that blacks at that mall are no more likely to shoplift than anyone else.
One black woman who was arrested at Macy’s in New York noticed that even though 80% of the people who shop at Macy’s are white, 0% of the four other people who were being held at the same time as her were white: two were black, one Middle Eastern looking and the fourth Hispanic.
Blacks and Latinos are being singled out not based on any hard-headed facts but based merely on racist stereotypes.
ABC staged some very unsubtle cases of “shopping while black” (pictured above) to see what other shoppers would do. About 80% of the shoppers did nothing, but 20% of the time they spoke up for the black person. People of colour were more likely to do that than white people – meaning that well over 80% of white people are quite fine with it.
There has been progress: in the 1950s, according to Siditty, Neiman Marcus would not let black women try on clothes. Sears and J.C. Penney in the South were even worse: black women were required to order their clothes from the catalogue.
See also:
- Center for Consumer Equality – they study this stuff
- The police
- How white people think
- white privilege – why no one talks about “shopping while white”
- white flight – also based on racist fear instead of numbers
- stereotype
- How whites misunderstand blackness
- crying racism
When you’re a person of color trying to shop, it is so frustrating to see the salesclerks keep a close surveillance of you thinking you’re about to steal something. You know that look. The side-ways glance. Even walking near your vicinity supposedly adjusting merchandise of some kind.
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I’ve heard this frequently when shopping for something; “If you want, I can show you the less expensive one”.
The most recent incident occurred when I was shopping for foundation. I asked the sales lady if they had mineral based foundation(friends had recommended it). She said yes but it was 35 dollars. I asked her how many other lines the store carried which were mineral based for comparison purposes, not the price. She told me that she could show me the less expensive ones. As it turned out, I ended up purchasing another brand all together at a comparable price to the 35 dollar one. This happens frequently when shopping when you ask about a product. You are steered towards the ‘cheaper’ brand.
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My uncle ran a corner convenience store in his neighborhood. And right before he retired, he admitted to me that he trusted minorities first before he trusted most whites. Why? Through his entire experience as a store owner, the people shoplifting were mostly, you guessed it, white people.
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I have been folowed and looked at like I was already a damn criminal. Now when it happens I embarrass the person who is following me. They are surprised to find out that my english is better than theirs.
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“In fact most people arrested for shoplifting in America are white – about 70% according to the FBI. And that comes in the teeth of racial profiling aimed at blacks and Latinos! According to one study shoplifters are most commonly white women their in twenties and early thirties.”
I have a friend who used to work for a department store as undercover security and this is true, at least where they worked. For every black person they followed around, several white people where boosting left right centre and sideways.
Another friend who also worked in security for another store, told me of a memo which was issued telling the security to watch out for blacks stealing in the store. My friend who was also black, lodged a Human Right’s Complaint which he won. He went on to become a lawyer specializing in Human Rights issues and cases.
The lady who said she keeps her hands visible, is very much what I do when shopping in a big store.
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They’re lucky I have a conscience. All I’d do is walk into a store and wander around to get their attention, while my White/Can Pass For White friends rob them blind.
But since I have a conscience, I’d do what my Aunt did when she was being trailed in stores – she put them to work. Even if she didn’t want to buy anything, she’s have the tag-alongs carrying and holding things as she made her way around the store. XD
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^@Peta:
If they’re that eager to “help”, by all means. lol! 😉
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For what its worth, I’ve witnessed many shoplifters in action.
All of them were white.
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Oh wow, I forgot I shared the Neiman Marcus thing. Yes you could shop there, but you couldn’t try on clothes there. In Dallas, where Neiman’s is based, segregation ran supreme. They felt they were progressive by letting blacks spend money there. My great aunt refuses to shop there even to this day. I do too.
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sometimes i want to say something when it happens to me…and my mom almost went off on this man once when he did it to me in front of her (but i pretty much begged her to let it go), i believe in choosing battles carefully, whites are always going to be this way, so i am not going to fight every one of them that wrongly follows me. as long as they leave me alone and dont speak to me or do anything physically or verbally to me, then i dont care what they do, if they want to waste time following me because of stereotypes, then i hope they lose business when the real crooks steal from them, they reap what they sow. most people in the retail industry are mean and cold hearted.
if you are a person of color, or young or overweight even, you are likely to get cold treatment or some kind of hateful treatment from store clerks/retailers.
i dont know if i am alone in this but i actually like it when the person at the clothing store ignores me…i am not a people person so it makes me uncomfortable to be bothered because i never know their true motives for bugging me in the first place.
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Just had dinner at a regional fast food chain. Every white person (about 4) who came in line to order their meal asked for a water. When they got the cup for the water, the went to the fountain and poured themselves one of the sodas.
Two stereotypes usually leveled at Blacks(stealing and being extra cheap) were on display.
I ordered a combo and paid for my meal and drink.
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I was at a shop with my friends most of us are black and asian and were dressed very colourful and I mean bright neon rainbow colours (we were coming back from a dance competion)so we stood out alot and i could feel all eyes were on us then i looked over at two middle ages white woman putting jeans in their bags then me and my friends started yelling saying that they are stealing. it was funny and we acted real smug too.
One time me and my friend were stopped when we left a clothes store and we made a BIG scene I am a quiet girl but I was screaming “I want to make a scene to expose you!”
:sigh: good times
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oh and in the episode of “what would you do?” did you hear that guy
“She’ll probably play the black card right?” then as soon as cameras were on him he flips the script chatting about “I felt so bad for her” kmt please! What a bunch of bullcrap
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Wow !!I hate to say it but as a black women i have expierenced this a few times it doesnt make me mad though because God knows im not a theif, but truthfully white people dont realize how much we have to go through just because of the color of our skin…or maybe they do know?????
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I wonder if anyone has ever been singled out in non-retail establishments. I couldn’t believe this was happening, but me and some friends were at an ART MUSEUM once and we were followed by security guards!!!! I am baffled by the logic of white people—what on earth did they think we were going to do? Steal a giant 24×35 painting? I’m curious to know HOW they thought we were going to do that!
As soon as I noticed that security guard following us, I said out loud to my friend, “Are we being followed?”
My friend replied, “Geez, it’s an art museum…”
I then said, “I guess they gotta keep a lookout for them crazy black folks!”
The security guard stopped following us right after.
Oh, and I also got strange looks from a security guard at a library once. Where do white people get these crazy ideas???
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@ Caroline
Wow an art museum? Now that is just so stupid and crazy the guard should be slapped repeatedly.What the hell are you going to take and how on earth would you steal a big arse painting but it in your back pocket?
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@Caroline.. yep,I’ve been followed in a galleries, at work! (yep at work lol), in gas stations, I’ve had people grab their purses in lifts, in trains (in public and at work) the question really isn’t where have you been followed.. ‘It’s where haven’t I been followed’. I suspect it’s the same for most black folk
Very recently, I wanted to buy a magazine with some tutorials in a national chain store, unfortunately it was damaged, missing the CD & was the only one on the shelf.
I was about to ask one of the store assistants to ask if they had any more in the back and before I said anything.. he shouted in a loud voice
We can’t give you a discount, we don’t discount our goods
I let him finish, then I said: ‘I’m glad you can read minds, but did I ask you for a discount?, what good would a discount do, when the cd is missing’?
He blushed bright red! and said oh..’sorry I thought you wanted a discount’.
So I said asked, ‘why would you presume that?’ Then I kept quiet and waited for an answer..
All I got was lot’s of errrr’ing and hmmmm’ing and then a very curt ‘well what do you want’?
I told him, can you check in the back if you have anymore of these mags, or if this has been misplaced here, and next time please don’t presume to know what I’m asking before I speak.. thanks (all with a smile)
Dude, turned turned that place upside down to find my magazine and redeem himself. I just kept on smiling at him and nodding my head in encouragement everytime he looked in a section and didn’t find it.
I must stress, this was the beginning of the week where my patience hadn’t been tried for like the gazillionth time, so I was able to hold it together.
Obviously, if this had happened on a Wednesday, my reaction would have been totally different. I probably would have just looked him dead in the eye, dropped the mag on the floor and walked off.
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I’ve been accused of shoplifting a few times which is why I always make sure to take the receipt when I buy something.
I get followed around a lot in stores. In fact, there’s this strange dichotomy where they will follow me around but will act annoyed if I ask for assistance. Same in Europe and in America.
Does anybody else get the distinct impression that they don’t want us to touch anything?
Through his entire experience as a store owner, the people shoplifting were mostly, you guessed it, white people.
That’s because shoplifting is often cheap entertainment. Some of the cheerleaders (all white) that were on our team shoplifted on the weekend for fun. They’d just grab random stuff off of the shelves and racks. They never got caught.
But the colored girls on the team, with our platinum credit cards, got stopped CONSTANTLY. Drove me nuts.
Those same white girls took water bottles full of vodka to school.
If store owners had any sense at all they’d be watching their employees.
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They just seem to be invisible or something!
LOL. It’s because they’re white. If they wear a white t-shirt then they blend right in with the walls. Camouflage.
This isn’t race-related, but funny:
Speaking of museums, when I was in 4th grade my GT school group took a week-long trip to Amsterdam. We were at the Rijksmuseum there, looking at the Van Goghs (we’d been studying his work in school). The security guards were following our group around the museum, shushing us, warning us not to touch anything, etc., despite the fact that we were perfectly well-behaved. After we left the museum all of these police cars came screeching up with flashing lights. Turns out that someone had tried to rob the museum while we were in it. And the guards were following a bunch of polite elementary schoolers around. LOL. Poetic justice.
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I love that you mentioned Barton Springs in Austin- where I’m from. In high school alot of the white girls I went to school with would shoplift from there- at Victoria’s Secret no less.
I went with a friend- white girl- and I stood outside the fitting room talking to her because I didn’t have any money to buy anything. When she came out she left the fitting room a mess, and we left to the car and started flashing me all the things she lifted, most likely thanks to the sales people who kept their eyes on me. She claimed it was easier to go to the uppity neighborhoods because they didn’t put censors on their clothes. SHe had the money to buy the clothes, she just didn’t see the point. I was hella angry at first because I told her in the end if she got caught everyone would think I put her up to it.
The Aboretum, the Domain, Lakeline Mall… you name it, she was there. But she never stole from Urban areas.
But sometimes I’m not sure if I’d rather be ignored, followed, or helped. On the other end of all the surveillance there’s the difficulty in getting a fitting room, getting your size, finding a register. Most stores encourage excessive customer service in the place of just following someone.
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lol B&G. Typical. I am sure that happens a lot. Spending so much time tracking the so called “theives” while the real theives rob the place blind without anyone paying attention
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I love that you mentioned Barton Springs in Austin- where I’m from.
I’m from just north of Austin. Strange coincidence.
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“If store owners had any sense at all they’d be watching their employees.”
This is where most of the thievery occurs. It’s employees who cause the most loss due internal theft. They do things such as change the inventory prices list, change price tags etc. I’ve read of store workers stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of goods and selling them.
A chain bookstore I frequented, constantly would ask me if I needed assistance whilst browsing in the fiction section. There were people who arrived after, who they never offered assistance to. I eventually started to notice this as a pattern as I went there several times a month. I also noticed it was black people they would ask.
Fed up, I confronted one woman who asked if she could help me. I said no, and kept browsing. She became angry at my response and claimed she was trying to help. I asked her why she hadn’t asked the people who came in after if they needed ‘help’. I then told her not to worry as I was not there to steal anything as that was what she was worried about. The cost of the books I purchased, sixty dollars, the look of confusion and embarassment on her face, priceless.
I try not to frequent this big chain unless I have to. This happens all to often, being treated as a potential thief before even setting foot in the door.
The only colour businesses should see is ‘green’ as in dough, moolah, bucks etc. They should be kissing the buttocks of every one who walks through their doors . They should fire employees who do discriminate as it cuts into the bottom line which is profit.
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Excellent point: store employees steal more than all the shoplifters put together.
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AO said:
“lol B&G. Typical. I am sure that happens a lot. Spending so much time tracking the so called “theives” while the real theives rob the place blind without anyone paying attention”
One white grafitti artist took advantage of this: when he needed paint he would make sure to go to the store with his black and Latino friends. While security was busy watching his friends because they were the “wrong” colour he would steal the paint.
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“One black woman put it this way:
I’m very careful about how I move throughout the store…. I try not to put my hands in my pockets. You internalize a lot of the heightened racial scrutiny.”
I do the exact same thing. No one ever told me to be careful, it virtually instinctual. I dont go into my purse unless im getting out money or keys. I keep my belongings in plain view. I even make my children leave their coats in the car if they are not wearing them and keep their hands out of their pockets. Again, I was never prompted. I just know better. A very sad reality.
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There are only a few stores I go to. If I am treated well and dealt with fairly, I return. Vote with your feet.
One white graffiti artist took advantage of this: when he needed paint he would make sure to go to the store with his black and Latino friends.
This is actually quite common. It happens the other way around, too: some black gangs around here have hired white men as “fronts”. Real criminals know how to game the system.
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This is so sad but true. There’s a store chain that’s known around here for being pretty bad when it comes to paying attention to customers. There’s even a game my friends play, which is to enter, touch 3 pieces of merchandise, touch the back wall, and leave without a sales rep noticing them. They don’t bother stealing because they dislike the clothes.
And it works, as long as their white. I get bombarded simply by setting foot in the door. I don’t even bother with more expensive stores (Mother’s day shopping is never enjoyable).
It actually infuriates me how my young white friends just steal for kicks. On any given day, they may just get up, go to walmart, take what they like, and go home. They’ve invited me along and I told them pointedly, who would be the one to get arrested in that situation.
Then they act surprised. I guess it never occurred to them that they aren’t sneaky, they’re white.
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I have been fortunate enough to not have been harassed much while shopping. Yet, I can certainly emphasize with the humiliation and annoyance of the many people of color who have.
I notice that many of the shop workers in the stores that I’ve browsed through in the last year tend to be black.
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I can relate to the posters who recall incidents of white associates of theirs stealing for kicks. That’s common. I can remember severals white girls I knew in high school who would raid stores just for fun. Some were bold enough to sell some of their “hot” merchandise.
And whoever said that the biggest shoplifters are store employees are right on! I had a relative who once had a part-time job at Macy’s. Guess how much money they lost in stolen merchandise? $30,000. Who stole most of it? The employees! True story.
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I remember working at my first job at a department store, and two of the managers got fired, for stealing. Every night they would go home with trash bags full of clothing. They were white as snow.
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Oh yeah, what is that movie star’s name? Is it Winona Rider? Was her career on a downward spiral or was this something she did for fun? This is a classic example.
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This thread is so poignant. I just came back from grocery shopping. As I was departing, I had witnessed a scene where there was a white middle-aged woman and a young woman of color being detained by a security guard. Apparently, the security guard was suspicious that one of the two women stole something.
Now, the young woman was quite annoyed (who can blame her?) and she calmly stated she didn’t take anything and told the security guard to check her out. She was wearing jeans, t-shirt, and a sweater. And she was found to be in the free and clear.
However, when it came to the white woman’s turn, she was making a scene saying she wasn’t a thief and how dare the security guard question her. She wore a billowy skirt, and it was discovered she had makeshift elastic garters on her legs, and lo and behold! She had small meat packages strapped to her legs! ROFL! Needless to say, she was charged with shoplifting.
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@ Leigh
And in spite of the fact that it was the white woman who was caught red handed shoplifting. It probably didn’t change the perception of the security guard concerning minorities being the major culprits in stealing etc. Probably thought, yeah well, the black one didn’t have anything on her “this time” 😦
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That is hilarious.
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AO Says:
@ Leigh
“And in spite of the fact that it was the white woman who was caught red handed shoplifting. It probably didn’t change the perception of the security guard concerning minorities being the major culprits in stealing etc. Probably thought, yeah well, the black one didn’t have anything on her “this time” 😦
Yeah, I thought that as well.
Black&German Says:
“That is hilarious.”
Tell me about. I’m still chuckling while I’m typing this. lol!
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B&G at #19:
I’m glad I read at least this far because if I hadn’t, I would’ve repeated your comment. This has been my experience! They follow you around but quickly turn away to avoid having to assist you.
I relate to what all the women of color here have said. I experience it all, on a regular basis, like the rest of you. But, I’m sort of like Aiyo… I get delight in making store salesman feel stupid. On several occasions, I have witnessed White people stealing. I’m quick to tell the sales staff “while you’re following me around, those white folks over there are robbing you blind!”
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Cos white people’s biggest enemy to black folks cos Whites went to World’s richest continent are Africa that’s why white shopkeepers are feared blacks to find out it and steal it where it belongs to homeland cos every White Europeans, White Americans and White Brazilians,White South Africans always secret trade like diamonds, gold, ivory, lion’s skin, etc etc that’s why Whites can’t stand to see Black people with big $$.
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As usual, another good post. A Latino church member told me that most of the shoplifters where she worked were White. I have to admit that I was surprised (hate to say so, but it’s true).
I wonder when White racists will admit that they don’t like us because of our skin color and not because of anything we do. I mean, we weren’t shoplifting in Africa when they enslaved us, were we?
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I can relate to this first hand. My (late) first wife was from the Pacific Islands, I am caucasion. She used to experience the following, especially if the store was so called “up market”.
1. the sales assistants would watch her from the moment she walked in the store.
2. they would insinuate that the clothes or goods were “expensive” i.e. can you afford them?
…. an so on.
I used to “play a game” with some of them by not going into the store with my wife but waiting and watching outside. A glance from my wife was enough to tell me that the sales people were being less than helpfull. I would walk into the store and casually ask my wife how things were going or had she found anything she liked. The change in attitude was usually amazing when thet saw that I was “white” (and therefor my wife might actually be able to afford the goods)! Naturally we would usually then walk out and I would make an off-hand comment such as … let’s go to xxxx (another “up market” store), I think they might have a better range (or quality etc) there! Hopefully they got the message!
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yeah, i agree witht this post, it’s pretty F’d up. Me and my husband were in Urban Outfitters and one of the store workers wouldn’t stop following him around(and the worker was black to…how much has he been molded??) It was really irratating. Plus my husband use to do undersover security for target and he said the worst shoplifters were old white women stealing lipstick and stuff……he also said some one tried to steal a box of cereal in their pants, it kind of cracked me up.
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I’m not saying all whites are one way or all blacks are one way, or Indians for that matter. But we’ve caught several thieves at my grocery store, all of whom are white. I’ve also had to fire a former staff for shop stealing who was white. She was lucky I didn’t prosecute her.
As a SMART shop owner, skin-color is the least of my worries when trying to analyze shoplifters.
These aristocratic posh white places like Macy’s tend to profile non-whites but at the end of the day it’s their loss. For every innocent black they accuse, there’ll be 10 whites who get away with $1000s
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I have also been followed in Macy’s what I did to get back at them was I tried on EVERYTING that I could fit into and had them to ring it up. The cashier proceeded to tell me that they do not have layaway. Befor I could say anything, My husband walked up and asked her why would she make a point in telling me that. And the broad responded saying that she though I needed it because I was buying alot of items. After she rung everything up $7500.00 in total. My husband went to pull out his black AMEX and asked me if I wanted anything; I said I do….JUST NOT FROM MACY’S! I told her I did not want ANYTHING AND THAT SHE COULD RESTOCK ALL OF THE ITEMS SINCE I WAS NOT BUYING ANYTHING and walked out! They went and got their manager while my husband and I were leaving. I told the manager how I was treated and did not appreciate it at all. So he asked me if I was sure about not wanting the items and My husband told him very sure. He looked confused and asked to my husband, who is white; ‘who are you?’ and my husband said: ‘who do you think I am? I am her HUSBAND!’ The manager then told me not to come back and I told him what makes you think I would; since I was not welcomed here in the first place?! We turned our noses up at them and walked out of the store. I do not shop at Macy’s or Neiman Marcus. I don’t shop at Sears either.
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I hope you wrote the President/CEO of Macy’s – just to put them on notice, if anything.
It’s during this holiday season me and my boyfriend go into these stores to purchase or just to browse. But know it’s funny, we can go into stores that are in “White” areas and soon as we walk through those doors we are “Profiled”. Stores like “Best Buy, Frye’s Electronic, Dick’s Sporting Goods”. Now, the is FULL of white folks, many than could be POTENTIAL thieves. But, their racism, hate, and/or bigotry is so inate – they can’t shake it. It has to be held on to??
And let me jus say, that when I feel I’m a target I DO NOT PURCHASE from that particular store.
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Just like my experience in art school, whites believe that art belongs to the white race…
Of course he did! Look right here:
http://www.thedailypage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=23634#p311843
(Shout out to any 1980s UW Madison grads out there….) 😉
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it sux now with the stupid terrorism incident, now we blacks are going to experience what the middle easterners have to experience…and thats being accused of terrorism…
the crazy “patriots” of america are already calling for even more racial profiling.
now not only do we have to deal with shopping while black and driving while black and all the typical american brand racism, but now we have to deal with this.
2 days after the terrorist attack a nigerian dude was arrested for getting sick on a plane, all because he wouldn’t come out.
its like we don’t even have rights anymore…you can’t get sick without being called a terrorist.
am i the only one who is more scared of crazy “patriotic” americans than i am of terrorists?
the way i see it, americans support domestic terrorism and guise it under the label “patriotism”….
Americans are not that smart and will assume that because you are black you must be either muslim or Nigerian or some kind of terrorist….
at this rate if terrorists wanted to distroy amerikkka all they would have to do is instill fear in white america, and white americans will destroy america with the American Hololcaust (it WILL happen one day).
its like americans are not capable of thinking rationally anymore…assuming there was a point when americans ever did.
i don’t even want to call myself an american anymore, i dont want to be associated with the crazies one bit.
i used to get annoyed when non-americans insulted america…mostly cause they are guilty of the same…but its getting harder to defend this country when everything is true plus some…
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it sux now with the stupid terrorism incident, now we blacks are going to experience what the middle easterners have to experience…and thats being accused of terrorism…
As Chris Rock once pointed out, “That train ain’t ever late.” 😦
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Being a hyper-focused individual without much in the way of situational awareness (except in obvious, potentially life-threatening scenarios), I was (and still am) oblivious to security or store clerks following me around. Nevertheless, I have plenty of anxiety about browsing around stores for too long.
I’ll also admit I get a bit of schadenfreude from seeing the ongoing mass death of retail in the U.S. in the face of online shopping juggernaults like Amazon. You can browse and window shop all you want from the comfort and safety of your own computer without being profiled. At least until someone creates an app that targets “black” or “non-white” IP addresses and pesters users with pop ups asking if you need assistance every 3 minutes until you order or leave the site in disgust.
@ alwaysright101
Feels a bit funny reading this in the Age of Trump.
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@ Mack Lyons
“Feels a bit funny reading this in the Age of Trump.”
I thought the same thing when I read that. Kinda like a time traveller shaking my head saying “oh, just you wait.”
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