Christianity (31- ) is the largest religion in the world and the main one outside of Asia and north Africa. A third of mankind is Christian. Like Islam it grew out of Judaism and shares many of the same beliefs. Where Jews follow Moses and Muslims follow Muhammad, Christians follow Jesus Christ, saying he is not just a man but the Son of God.
Of Christians, half are Catholic, a third are Protestant, a ninth are Orthodox and one in 30 are Anglican.
Christianity is the religion that the West is based on, although now many in the West are Christians in name only or not at all. Christianity is weakest in Europe where it was once strongest.
The holy book of Christians is the Bible. It contains both the Old Testament – the books of the old Jewish Bible – and the New Testament – the writings of the the first followers of Jesus, the apostles.
Christians worship in church on Sundays (some on Saturday). Their minister is a priest or, for Protestants, a pastor. Some churches are led by bishops. The Catholic church is led by the bishop of Rome, called the pope.
Christians say that in the beginning when God created the world, he created the first man and the first woman, Adam and Eve. Like the angels he gave them a free will so that they could love him. He put them in the Garden of Eden. Everything was perfect and wonderful. God made just one rule: Never eat from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil or from the Tree of Life.
In the garden Satan, a fallen angel, took the form of a snake. He talked Eve into turning against God and eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Eve talked Adam into doing the same.
This was the original sin. Sin means turning against God to do what is wrong. But this particular sin was not just the personal fault of Adam and Eve – it wound up making human nature what it is today: sinful. We know what is right and want to do it, but too often we wind up doing the wrong thing! The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.
So life is a constant battle between good and evil within our soul.
To help us and to set things straight God sent his only Son Jesus soon after Israel had fallen under Roman rule. Jesus gathered a large following. The Jewish religious leaders and the Roman authorities saw him as a trouble-maker and put him to death by nailing him to a cross. But the story does not end there: Christians say on the third day Jesus rose from the dead.
But if Jesus rose from the dead, then he is the Son of God as he claimed and all the other things he said are true…
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Did this Christianity post get no comments?
Are there any Christians in the house?
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Maybe I should ask louder?
ARE THERE ANY CHRISTIANS UP IN HERE!
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These are the basic tenants o the Christian faith.
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mary burrell, are you a Christian?
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In my opinion Christianity has had a negative effect on POC the world over. It is my opinion that white supremacy has it’s roots within Abrahamic religions and specifically came out of the geo centric Christion theology of the middle ages.
But first some observations about religion in general. Religion has allowed people to have religious experiences that has led to life changes in their personal lives making them better people. That is a good thing but it in my opinion the positive affects of religion ends their.
Religion by itself and sometimes with a government behind it, has caused untold millions of deaths, spread misery and as an organized hierarchy bequeaths special privileges on its followers while marginalizing others. Any religion that starts off with you getting on your knees is a tool for social dominance. Any religion that teaches slaves to serve their masters is immoral. Colonialism and Christianity went hand in hand.
In the slavery thread some one posted that the slaves on Spanish ships were “baptized” and such an act would indicate that the Spanish saw Africans as human. Catholics also baptized their livestock and homes with an identical blessing ritual. It was meant to drive demons from things so I’m not so sure that the Spanish saw their human live stock as human.
The affects of Colonialism and Christianity in Africa still remain today with Uganda recently passing a law declaring homosexual behavior a crime punishable by death.
Christianity inherited the notions from the Greeks and Romans of a geo centric universe and Christian scriptures confirm this theory in it’s texts. (http://hypertextbook.com/eworld/geocentric.shtml)
The Greek and Roman Empires citizens were identified by class more then they were identified by race. Citizens of the empire had rights, everybody else didn’t.The distinction of race would develop within the Western empire.
What Christianity added to geo centric thinking was the idea that man was made in the image of God and that Christianity had replaced the Jews as it’s “chosen people”. This allowed the white Europeans the belief that God had placed special privilege upon them and that they were the center of the universe and therefor the standard by which all things must be judged.
Abagond has a thread somewhere showing a medieval map that has Jerusalem as the center of the world.
“The Prime Mover of Aristotle’s universe became the God of Christian theology, the outermost sphere of the Prime Mover became identified with the Christian Heaven, and the position of the Earth at the center of it all was understood in terms of the concern that the Christian God had for the affairs of mankind.”
“Just as the physical universe was thought to be centered around the Earth, the psychological universe of Medieval Europeans revolved around where God had placed his creatures within the Hierarchy of his creation. Any understanding of the psychology and behavior of individuals at that time requires a consideration of the person’s desire for eternal salvation. For Medieval European Christians, time had essentially two divisions: The brief and insignificant one in which they lived out their sinful lives, and the cosmically enduring one in which the suffering or joy of their souls would occur. In Medieval Europe, there was no room for abnormality or nonconformity, as ANY deviation was considered to be the work of the devil. People accepted their place in the social order no matter how lowly it might have been, and everything in the world had the potential for symbolizing something supernatural.”
The Old testament records that God commanded genocide along with other barbaric things and modern Christians like to say that it was part of “Gods plan” back then and somehow because it’s so far removed it’s not relevant today. It’s the same argument whites use about slavery; “you need to get over it”. I disagree. Remember that this was Zimmerman’s excuse that he gave during his Fox interview that it was “Gods plan” that Trevon be shot therefor removing any personal responsibility for his actions. And it was part of “Gods plan” that Columbus killed 70% of the population of the Dominion Republic within 30 years as well as it being “Gods plan” that serial rapists known as our founding fathers founded the United States.
The temple customs and rituals during the time of the historical Jesus were privileged and race conscious. The Romans used the Jewish temple as a tax collecting tool and the Jewish priests sold “cleansing” to the people to support the priestly class. Jesus was a threat because he was cleansing people for free and was therefor an economic threat to the priestly class. They controlled the IP of salvation and any deviation from that was a violation of Biblical law. Once a year the temple would have it’s rituals and the temple areas were segregated depending on Jewish tribe, race and sex.
This was carried over into Christianity as the “chosen people” and it was this race consciousness that would develop into white supremacy.
In Abagonds “White American racism against Blacks: 1600s” he documents how whites and blacks as “servants” shared some equality together. Over the following years that would change and “white” became a privilege. I think the switch was Christianity and the catalyst was capitalism. Once human value became a commodity the jump to supremacy was easy as it already existed within Christianity.
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Michael Jon Barker, are you a Christian?
You owe everything you got to the Christian church
Without the Christian church white people would still be living like savages, eating bloody meat, selling each other into slavery.
You should rebuke yourself.
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Christianity has the best explanation of why all the people of the world are so sorry and messed up. Even white people, despite all their inventions and technology, they are in a sorry state too.
Matter of fact, they are the worst offenders.
If you put your hope and trust in man you will be greatly disappointed.
Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and get yourself on the path to redemption.
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BTW– Theology is a discipline dark skinned people seem naturally drawn to. Like drumbeats, fashion and _____, there are some things black people don’t wait for the white man to teach them.
Here is the experiment: Take ANY religious book, ANY one, and just go stand on the side walk reading aloud from it. Who do you think is going to stop and listen?
Ask you a question about it?
Argue with you about it?
Pull out their book and tell you where you are wrong?
And the historical record indicates we’ve always been like this.
If a black person can memorize the entire Bible or Koran, we should be able to do a lot of other great and vast things of constructive value?
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Michael Jon Barker
In my opinion Christianity has had a negative effect on POC the world over.
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Is that because it came to many of them via white people
or
Is there something in the Christian code of thought, speech and/or action that is incorrect?
And finally, are you a Christian?
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Christianity is one of the 3 Abrahamic religions; Islam and Judaism being the other two. In order to fully understand what Christianity is, it is important to understand what it ISN’T.
Christianity is NOT Hinduism
Hinduism gets a bad rap because of the caste system, and rightly so, but I suggest considering how the caste system would function in a world without original sin? Hinduism, or what is uncommonly known as The Vedic Traditions is actually a great religious system, on paper. The problem is the PEOPLE. The people are ALWAYS the problem because of original sin; a concept not recognized by the Hindu religion, and this may be the biggest problem with Hinduism.
Before I go further I want to state for the record that the Hindu caste system IS based on color. Many Hindus and Indians can make a passionate argument that it is Not, but at the end of the day, there ain’t no light skinned lower caste, or UNTOUCHABLE Indians. They don’t exist, so stop it, just cut the crap. Being a “white Indian” or Aryan is basically a caste all by itself, and its at the top of the caste system even if its unacknowledged.
That being said, it is still important to understand how the caste system functions on paper with “perfect people”, because then its actually a pretty good system of people relations. For this purpose Im suggesting this link to a podcast by Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya on The Dharma Manifesto.
(http://www.counter-currents.com/2013/12/robert-stark-interviews-sri-dharma-pravartaka-acharya/#more-44476)
This is the best presentation I found to make the case FOR Hinduism and the caste system. So take a listen to this first.
THEN,
To hear how the caste system REALLY works (with fallen people) listen to this guys presentation: Dr. Velu Annamalai
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6-xip9QCYM)
This guy actually deserves his own thread because in this video he is giving a presentation on the Hindu caste system to a bunch of black people somewhere in the United States, which is interesting in and of itself. Much of what he says will probably surprise you because most of our information about India/Hinduism comes to us via a white supremacy filter; I know mine did.
For example, black people (African) have been found outside of Africa many times and are probably the original people; but the white man always tries to tell you “NO, they were brought there as slaves.” He does this for a reason and black people must start doing their own research if they really want the truth.
This presentation is an example of what nonwhite people must start to do; engage in discussions with each other without white supremacist supervision and/or authorization. This presentation appears to be an example of the phenomenon.
Dr. Annamalai does an excellent job of describing the nature and origin of the Hindu caste system and the function of dark skinned people in a system based on color. By deconstructing the Hindu caste system, Dr. Annamalai basically demonstrates how you can have a system of white supremacy without white people. This is important to understand because it may be where we are heading–more on that later.
So, in making the case for religion, I offer Hinduism as one you can strike from your list of possible candidates to challenge Christianity.
PS– The caste system has given Hinduism such a bad name that many converts and even Indians themselves avoid calling their religion Hinduism. Instead, they refer to it as “The Vedic Traditions”. This is especially true of the white people who adopt the religion.
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@ Thwack
I was raised in a Christian home and was sent to Christian schools but am an atheist.
I believe Christianity has had a negative affect on POC because it was used to first justify their enslavement and genocide and then used to placate and displace their indigenous identity.
“Before I go further I want to state for the record that the Hindu caste system IS based on color. Many Hindus and Indians can make a passionate argument that it is Not, but at the end of the day, there ain’t no light skinned lower caste, or UNTOUCHABLE Indians.”
If Hinduism predated white people and supremecy by thousands of years, how is it that they are color conscious? Where did that come from?
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abagond
@ Thwack: Comment deleted for using Mock Ebonics.
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abagond, did I remove the correct offending word, words, grammar, syntax, mispelling?
Please notify me if my correction is incorrect?
Thank you.
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Michael Jon Barker
@ Thwack
If Hinduism predated white people and supremecy by thousands of years, how is it that they are color conscious? Where did that come from
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OK folks, lets look at the dynamics of this interaction in isolation.
Ready?
What we have occuring is a white person coming to a black blog, and asking a black person, a question about white supremacy.
Now, remember on the other thread where I gave the two reasons why white people seek out black people for discussions of race?
Remember that?
Lets review;
1. To find out how much you know.
2. To confuse you.
So which aspect is Michael Jon Barker employing here?
Think about it? He’s a white person, why is he trying to distract ME to thousands of years ago and Hindus…?
He is trying to find out how much I know, so he can calibrate his next question to CONFUSE ME.
I said it before and I will say it again. If a person KNOWS they are a white person, they have no business asking a nonwhite person for information about white people.
If a person KNOWS they are a doctor…
If a person KNOWS they are a lawyer…
If a person KNOWS they are a porn star…
If a person KNOWS they are a firefighter…
They have no business coming to you, wasting your time, ASKING YOU QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THEY ARE AND YOU ARE NOT..
Why doesn’t he go ask a white person?
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“If Hinduism predated white people and supremecy by thousands of years, how is it that they are color conscious? Where did that come from?”
Thwack said:
“What we have occuring is a white person coming to a black blog, and asking a black person, a question about white supremacy.”
It was you who brought up Hinduism and seemed to have some knowledge about it. I was just asking a logical question lol
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Michael Jon Barker
It was you who brought up Hinduism and seemed to have some knowledge about it. I was just asking a logical question lol
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Michael Jon Barker, are you a white person?
if so, how do you know?
In other words, how can you be sure?
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Judeo-Christianity is heavily rooted in the ancient religion of Egypt (Kemet). The original cross is rooted in the ancient Egyptian cross called ‘ankh’. The original trinity is rooted in the ancient holy trinity of Ausar (Osiris), Aset (Isis) and Heru (Horus). St. Michael weighing the soul of deceased is rooted in the Anpu (Anubis) weighing the heart of the deceased. I can go on and on, but it’s nothing like the actual proto-type. As Black people are known to say, which Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell also made into a song (in a duet): “Ain’t nothing like the real thing, baby”.
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Posts like this often disappear quickly when people don’t respond. Which is a pity because such conversations are just as important as those on racism because of the obvious effects they have on Black people.
I should just add both the contributions from both Michaels have been spot on!
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A bit more of the history on the relationship between (Black people) slavery and Christianity…
http://kaperville.com/a-whip-in-one-hand-and-a-bible-in-the-other/
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Thanks Kwamla
At first glance I can see that this is a very informative link you’ve provided here! Also worth noting is out of the hundreds or thousands of “christian” religious sects the Quakers were the only group to consistently condemn slavery. That’s a far cry from the stance and attitude of Ellen White and her followers, the Seventh Day Adventists.
Even “Frederick Douglas wanted no parts of the Bible later in his life, as he saw that the Bible was used as a vindication for slavery” mistreatment and oppression!
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Your welcome Matari!
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This illustrates the point I’ve made quite well…
Slavery seems to be condemned and accepted depending on the circumstances. It seems very confused. Its this confusion or what I would call moral relativity which is lacking on the issue of slavery which has allowed the practice to be condoned in Christianity.
It also explains why it is not explicitly prohibited in the 10 commandments…
Thou Shalt Not Steal Your Neighbour…! .
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Exodus 21:16
“Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.”
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THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO, HMMMM….
In biblical tradition didn’t eleven of the twelve heads of the future Tribes of Israel SELL their own brother Joseph into slavery (telling their father, Jacob, that he was dead and offering Joseph’s blood stained multi-colored robe as proof)? Because he became a slave, and consequently a very powerful person, he was able to do things for his brothers that he could not have accomplished otherwise.
Exodus 21:16
Had this law been followed, would Israel be in existence today??
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**Had this law been followed, would Israel (we understand to be Israel, today) be in existence now??**
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_bibl2.htm
“While in prison, Paul met a runaway slave, Onesimus, the property of a Christian — presumably Pheliemon. He sent the slave back to his owner. This action is forbidden in Deuteronomy 23:15-16:”
our preachers didn’t really go in to those passages for sermons, like?
or the reading of the week, that I remember too much?
it was Episcopalian (“Anglican”), church i went for a while back in the day
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Both Exodus 21:16 and Deuteronomy 24:7 deal with kidnapping. The sin was stealing not slavery.
George is quoting Leviticus 25:39 out of context.
Hebrews could own each other but had more privileges then non Hebrew slaves and most were more like indentured servants who could work themselves free. They could be freed at the time of Jubilee (every 50 years) or could be released or after seven years of labor. However any other race could be made your property with the rights to pass down slaves to your sons. Property was never handed down to women. Note you can’t treat indentured servants who were Hebrew “ruthlessly” but their is no prohibition against treating your slaves ruthlessly since that is your own property and not privileged under the Hebrew god.
“9 “If your brother becomes poor beside you and sells himself to you, you shall not make him serve as a slave: 40 he shall be with you as a hired worker and as a sojourner. He shall serve with you until the year of the jubilee. 41 Then he shall go out from you, he and his children with him, and go back to his own clan and return to the possession of his fathers. 42 For they are my servants,[a] whom I brought out of the land of Egypt; they shall not be sold as slaves. 43 You shall not rule over him ruthlessly but shall fear your God. 44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.”
Jeremiah 22:13 isn’t a law rather a proclamation by Jeremiah against predatory capitalists.
Deuteronomy 23:15 isn’t referring to slaves owned by Hebrews. It’s referring to slaves from other countries who have escaped into Israel.
Exodus 21 deals with slaves and servants.
“Now these are the rules that you shall set before them. 2 When you buy a Hebrew slave,[a] he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. 3 If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out alone. 5 But if the slave plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 6 then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.
7 “When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has designated her[b] for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has broken faith with her. 9 If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her as with a daughter. 10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights. 11 And if he does not do these three things for her, she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.”
20 “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. 21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money. (So if the slave doesn’t die right away it’s not man slaughter)
26 “When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free because of his eye. 27 If he knocks out the tooth of his slave, male or female, he shall let the slave go free because of his tooth.
What good is a slave who can’t see or eat. Allowing the slave to go takes responsibility away from the slave owner so the law favors the owner.
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“In the garden Satan, a fallen angel, took the form of a snake. He talked Eve into turning against God and eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. Eve talked Adam into doing the same.”
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In the Michelangelo painting which depicts the Fall of Man / Adam & Eve, it seems to me that it is telling in that the serpent is anthropomorphized in such a way that its upper region is that of a human female with scaly breasts, while the rest of its body is that of a snake (Woman as Evil).
One belief concerning the temptation of Adam by Eve is that it doesn’t ‘count’ as any sort of moral failing or disobedience to G-d on the part of Adam due his eating the fruit at urging of his ‘woman’…his own mate. Eve, it seems, is the true ‘sinner’ in this scenario as she allows herself to be deceived by the urgings of a third-party outsider and then, afterwards, wilfully drags her mate down with her.
The opposite case can be stated as well since Eve was the one deceived into eating the fruit but Adam ate it even while well aware of his own error.woman’…his own mate. Eve, it seems, is the true ‘sinner’ in this scenario as she allows herself to be deceived by the urgings of a third-party outsider and then, afterwards, wilfully drags her mate down with her.
The oppisite case can be stated as well since Eve was the one deceived into eating the fruit; Adam, however, ate it even while aware of his own error (i.e. Eve simply offered the fruit to Adam, and Adam ate. No convincing or deception was necessary).
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“The oppisite case can be stated as well since Eve was the one deceived into eating the fruit; Adam, however, ate it even while aware of his own error (i.e. Eve simply offered the fruit to Adam, and Adam ate. No convincing or deception was necessary).”
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Perhaps you should take a look at The First Book of Adam and Eve, chapter 5 in the Pseudepigrapha. It gives the reader a DIFFERENT perception.
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@ Michael (Sorry! I mean George!)
Perhaps those commandments would be clearer stated as:
Thou Shalt Not Steal (except in certain cases – conquered peoples)
So on that basis slavery can be condoned – depending on the circumstances
Also, we could say:
Thou Shalt Not Kill (except in certain cases – like war).
This makes the act of waging war and murdering people acceptable – depending on the circumstances.
Again, the above examples illustrate this dependance on an acceptance of morally relative laws
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Ashra Kwesi Explains the Origin of Adam & Eve Story at the Ramesseum in Kemet (Egypt)
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dxilks2HNQ8&list=PL7E4C5FEEDA2AC759&feature=share&index=13)
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“Dousing homeless at church gets S.F. archdiocese in hot water”
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/S-F-archdiocese-will-stop-dousing-homeless-6143213.php#photo-7677622
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@MJB
You are are beyond worthy with your wisdom. Of all mankind type of terms. Wish there were more human beings like you period.
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Imagine what the world would be like if Judaism had never existed…
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How come Nubian and Ethiopian Christianity, which predated the Western European variant by a more than four centuries gets no mention in this discussion? That fact might explain the occurrence of black Madonnas in Poland, France, etc.
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Sudan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Ethiopia)
Maybe Christianity was reintroduced to Africa by Europeans, along with colonialism and the Atlantic slave trade, centuries after Africans introduced Christianity to Europeans?
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Maybe Christianity was reintroduced to Africa by Europeans, along with colonialism and the Atlantic slave trade, centuries after Africans introduced Christianity to Europeans?
A highly plausible scenario.
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“Liked by 3 people”, for real? Ok, then you might also like these links on the history of Christianity in Nubia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6171YYEhuI) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSZxGu8gE-Y). As well as the story of St. Maurice.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Maurice)
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Maybe our genial host might want to rectify his omission of this side of Christianity with a post on African Christianity?
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@ gro jo
Wonderful idea. Thank you! I will do it for February.
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Happy to oblige.
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You might also look into the life of Bava Gor (“Father of the Grave”) or Bava Gaur (“Father of deep Thought”) , his siblings, Bava Habash and Mai Mishra who became Sufi saints in India and Pakistan. I’ve read several accounts where he was a merchant from present day Nigeria who established the agate trade Gujarat or a soldier/slave from Abyssinia.
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its called agape
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Thanks for the info on Bava Gaur. I was aware of Saint Maurice but only have a cursory knowledge of Blacks in India. I believe they are called Dalits?
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Herneith,
the Dalits are people who are indigenous to India. Many of them are from the aboriginal and other ethnic groups in India, who were there prior the Aryan invasion
They were reduced to 4th class citizens in their own lands by the caste system of Hinduism- they were forced to do manual labor/slave work and were considered “untouchable” by the other caste groups
https://www.culturalsurvival.org/ourpublications/csq/article/indias-untouchables
The black people of African descent who were brought to India are called Sidis or Sheedis
article about them with current photos
http://blackgirllonghair.com/2016/01/sidis/
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Thanks Linda. I didn’t know the difference, all I knew was that there were
blacks in India I was wondering if they were indigenous to the Indian sub-continent. Thanks for clarifying it.
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Herneith,
As Linda said black Africans are called Sidis or Habshis, derived from the Arabic word Habashi for “Ethiopian”. A number of them rose very high in the service of the petty kings of India. The most prominent was Malik Ambar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Ambar). Janjira State, which lasted from 1489 to 1948, 459 years was created by African traders. One of their admirals, in the service of the mughal emperor, Siddi Yaqut Khan, defeated the British in 1690. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child's_War) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janjira_State)
The African presence dates much further because the inhabitants of the Andaman islands may have been there as long ago as 70,000 years. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andamanese_people)
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Though many of the commenters and their comment are engaging and insightful – and worthy of reply – I’ll restrain myself and simply add my appreciation for the succinct and accurate information in the original post. May that Creator God bring peace to all.
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http://www.differentspirit.org/evidence/torah-code.php
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