1. Regardless of what you want to pretend to think happened, here is what happen.
Africa, ivory coast anyways, wasn’t split into countries we think of today, but rather a collection of tribes and petty kingdoms, similar to ancient germania and the steppes. Tribes and petty kingdoms go to war with one another for a multitude of reasons. Usually for the goal of land gain. When one tribe is victorious they usually enslave the defeated populace. Now the Spanish, whom recently lose their conquered peoples populace to deseases, come, originally already trading for ivory, and offer guns for ‘servants’. The victorious tribe accepts because 1. Guns were highly valued back then, when everyone else is using traditional warefare and ur now the guy with firearms, its changes the tide of any war dramatically. 2. Your foe is now unable to exact any revenge for u enslaving their tribe, killing their father, ect. (You eliminated your greatest interior threat) 3. Less mouths to feed, and more land for food, that is a glorious relief for any faction or civilization.
The French did similar the same thing to the Cathars. The Romans to everyone they invaded, Egypt, Persia, Japan, China, Maya, I think the Inca.

2. Now let’s look at the Spanish, the only other power, that actively used slaves, at the time was the Ottoman Empire. The Spanish basically copied the ideas of slavery from the Ottomans, who built upon the Byzantines, who built upon earlier forms. It just got progressively worse as time went on, to the point of today’s child slavery in S America, and Japan’s treatement of war prisoners.

BTW I’m a Celt, we were enslaved and our sister cultures were driven into extinction because of shit like this. (The continental celts were) so come at me racists.

Put it to music and play it on the violin. I could not care less as to how you feel. That song Cry me a River comes to mind. As for that article, it describes you and your colour-blind racist ilk to a tee. You must be Canadian! You read like one of those white Canadians.

None of those things in that article apply to me. Also this one especially,

“White solidarity: whites are afraid to stand up against racism, particularly when they are with other whites. Also, they do not like it when you call other whites racists – they seem to take it personally for some reason.”

I have had fights with people about their comments and have no longer associated with people due to the fact they have been disgusting racists. I have no time for people like that and I’m not some weak white woman who just crys to look innocent. I cry for the injustices in the world and have an inability to control my emotions.

Also damn right I’m going to take it personally if my skin colour is white and I get lumped in with everyone else with the “same skin colour”. Saying all crying white woman are pathetic racists is just as bad as saying all black people are from the ghetto and commit crimes. They are just ridiculous stereotypes.

I’ve never judged anyone because of their skin colour and now that very thing is happening to me.

I don’t understand why some people are so obtuse.

Most people in our generations, black and white have no idea what it is to be a slave or a slaver. Stop holding grudges for our ancestors mistakes.

It makes me cry, literally, but then everything does.

Maybe you should peruse this post:

http://abagond.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/white-womens-tears/

It’s right up your alley!

All liqored up and no place to go! Tell me, why do you white racists get drunk and come to blogs such as this to spew your delusionsÉ If nothing else, you are hilarious! Folks, this is what happens when you drink, smoke spliffs and ingest methamphetamines simultaneously! Do not imbibe and type! Try not to drink and type sir! Good day!

Ive chimed in a lot about the “Arab slave trade” and its affect on black Africans south of the Sahara…at the same time , saying the Atlantic slave trade was even more brutal (both were extremly brutal)

I dont understand everything you said …but Ive mentioned harems before

In the end, the meaning of this thread is, white racists shouldnt use the argument “Africans sold their own slaves” to diminish in any way, the brutality of the Atlantic slave trade and how its legacy affects in a big way, all the countries in the Americas that brought slaves from Africa

White Americans coming to grips with this is extremly important, and , I cant expect a black American to be able to just trust a white American who doesnt ackowledge that…..white Americans need to be strong about that, and face it, not be weak…the weak ones are holding us all hostage and preventing us from going forward

What I’m sick of and can’t understand is that because the colour of my skin is white; I should be held accountable for what other people with the same coloured skin have done, even if they could of been a distant relative. It’s nothing to do with me. If I were to kill someone today that doesn’t make my distant grandchild a murderer.

I don’t think I’m better than anyone else because I’m white. I’d help anyone I could because they are a person. I would dislike anyone who tries to hurt anyone. I hate referring to white people as us and black people or any other race as them. We are all people goddammit. I’m not proud to be white. I’m proud to be me. No matter what colour I was.