When some guys jump to some crooks defense & shout racism when he is shot\jailed even though he is clearly guilty as sin, when some guys arbitrarily blame all their problems on any one else but themselves, what is that ???

White racists can take a hike but their evil doesn’t justify another’s wrong.

This is not about disliking white people, and you’re right, it shouldn’t be one’s “purpose in life” but dealing with them is a must even at the expense of your pride and mental well being. I know it’s very, very hard for you to understand the minefields POC has to traverse in their daily lives as a result of past and current actions of White, some wittingly, others unwittingly.

“Now I know that many blacks have had trouble forming their identity as a people . . . I sympathise with that. But this is the real world made up of individuals so not all white Americans are the same.”

White people in general talk about people being individuals, but the only people they conceive to be individuals are other white people, no matter where in world they are. Peoples of colour are always grouped together – insert word(s), phrases or other descriptors – used by them.

“Let’s stop talking about white or black”
Your ancestors created this mess and now we have to deal with it, more so blacks than whites. Black people did not create these dynamics; they were inherited. Deal with it, as most POC must. There would have been NO black had there been was No white, as far as human beings are concerned. Can you explain to me how racism affects you in your everyday life?

“Let’s move on”

Have you and your contemporaries done so with respect to your racist beliefs and your inability to promote social justice? Must be nice to be able to can pick up your ball and walk off the playing field without any repercussion; there are many of us who would like nothing better than to being able to do so, but “whiteness” still stands in the way.

“If you are going to point out prejudice in white people then you should do the same for blacks. Don’t be partial. I would like to see just one post on here about black people showing prejudice.”
As a matter of fact they are a few, and it’s primarily from one person who refers to himself as africanblackmilitant, who each time he posts is castigated his nonsense.

When you can talk to me and to your white friends and associates, and make reference to other people who are white, as in the WHITE GUY(S) over there or Robert, the WHITE GUY, when there are no people of colour around, then I’ll know your racial consciousness has been raised. You may want to try doing it for a month. Just to drive the point home, using an unrelated issue, I’m assuming you are male; what are some of the precautions you’ve taken to prevent you being raped?

You keep seeing the developed culture from Euro-American perspective with total disregard for what it bequeathed to Black and other minorities, and please, DO NOT dissect the word minority, since you are likely to start splitting hairs, that as a group, white men is a minority in America. Most black people cannot come to this purely from an academic exercise; it’s lives lived by their mothers, fathers, daughters, sons, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts cousins and neighbours.

No reasonable person can say that progress isn’t being/haven’t been made on the racial front in America; the older generation of Blacks are more willing to acknowledge this progress, but they’d be looking at it at from how things were. The frustration for younger Blacks, even when they do all the right things, see their white contemporaries, people with whom they associate, attended high schools and colleges getting ahead and most times the only variable the can see is skin colour. What do you expect them to conclude?

The American culture was developed over the last four hundred years; it may take another hundred and fifty to two hundred years to fully supplant what we have today as the CULTURE; a signature on a piece of paper does not obliterate culture. In the meantime Blacks and other minorities are being asked to “shut the f**k up” and stop complaining; it’s no different to me than in the sixties when northern cities were in conflagrations and white were asking ‘why are they burning the cities.’ It behoves you to at least see things from that Black American perspective, rather than holding fast to your doctrinaire position.

If Abagond permits me, I’d like to add a link for to a sixties song and I’d like you to put it in context of this discussion – NOTE, I’M NOT A RELIGIOUS PERSON, but a number of black people will agree wholeheartedly with the its sentiments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWdHDS5bDjU&feature=related

What about Black biases out there ?

Can you elaborate a bit more here?

What about Black biases out there ?

Great to here your response. I think the more society becomes aware of itself the less prejudice there will be everywhere.

I agree with you……Judge people on an individaul level instead of the colour of their skin. Personally, I have always felt on the same level as white people, regardless of colour, race or shade…..We are all HUMAN first and foremost.

“How to talk to white people about racism”…..Actually, if a person is ignorant, then how can you talk to them about racism…..It’s just going to go into one ear and out of the next.

Some people just like to think they are better because of their colour, if that is the case, we have NOTHING to talk about.

Infact your point 5 reminded me of something that happened at work 2 weeks ago. If I didnt know better I would say you were someone who knew me.

Bullshit. I’ve experienced racism as both a white person and especially as a woman, and I’m not going to automatically submit to the idea that someone else’s thoughts and ideas have more value simply because of the color of their skin.

Not surprised.

*fans self*

First, I implore you not to be a sock puppet. Please just play by the rules, for crying out loud!

OK, so in your 1st post, you bring up a word [Racism] that describes a concept, and then point out that it was coined by Leon Trotsky, and that he was a Jew.

Then you end the reply of your very 2nd post with “Of course it does not really matter who invented the word.”

So if it didn’t matter who invented the word, then why did you make such a production of pointing out that it was Trotsky in the first place? Do you have any logical way of explaining this… or is it just as stupid as it sounds?

Secondly, can you please explain why my pointing out who it was who really coined the term has anything to do with the purpose for which the word was coined? I can’t see it myself, but please enlighten me.