White Goddess (2008- ), formerly known as White Meat, is a white woman worship blog run by a black man who calls himself tnameat on WordPress and Professor Fenwick on YouTube. His blog is full of pictures and videos of white women, particularly those with large naked breasts. He has posts about why white women are the best and argues that black women’s cooking and back ends are not as good as people think.
In a video called “European Features White Women are Fantastic Part 3″, Professor Fenwick plays Beethoven and shows us pictures of Bianca Holland, a beautiful Puerto Rican swimsuit model. He says she is living poetry, that her beauty nearly brings tears to his eyes, that he has been thinking about her all week. She looks like this:
He says she is beautiful because she has European green eyes and European hair.
One commenter advised:
lol if this is not self hating i don’t know what is get it together bro..
There are black men who prefer white women to black women. That is not news. There are black men who are fed up with how black women act and say white women are way nicer. That is not news either. But there is more than that going on here.
A post called “A Tribute to My Salvation” starts with these “beautiful words”:
There is no love that is equal to the love that a black man can have for a white woman. As black men we have been privileged to have a view of your eminence in a way that is unique only to the American experience.
You have a sense of confidence and self understanding that no other woman can share, because from your earliest experiences, you knew that you were special. While understanding what sets you apart from other women, your exceptional love and compassion forces you to dim your own light as not to burden them with your greatness.
You could argue that I am just so many bad dates away from creating a white goddess website myself, but I would never write something like that unless I had either lost my mind or meant it as a bitter, sarcastic joke.
At least two other things point to some kind of joke:
- His WordPress username, tnameat - tits-and-ass meat – also seems to be part of a joke. Who calls himself that with a straight face?
- When he wanted to change the name of the blog from White Meat to something more respectable, one of the choices was “Bluest Eye”. That is the name of a Toni Morrison book about black self-hatred caused by white ideas of beauty!
For a while I thought the Professor was a black woman, but his taste in white women is too close to my own. Come to think of it, it is just the sort of blog I would do if I struck out with black women and tried to talk myself into making do with white women.
Thanks to Sweetme1993 for bringing this website to my attention.
Postscript: By comment #34 it was clear to me that the Professor is dead serious. His blog is not satire at all! As blaqueconscious put it, he is “a racist white man stuck in a biracial man’s body”. His mother is white.
See also:
I’ve been to White Goddess and, I have to say, that man has serious issues. Internalized racism at the maximum.
La Reyna
LOL.
Never heard of this site. Don’t think from this description that I’ll ever visit this.
I have a question: Let’s say you, Aba, decide to forgo black women for their white counterparts. How many white women in the U.S. do you think would be willing to date you? Would it be the general white woman or a specific type?
Also,
that PR model looks black. She looks nice in that heavily airbrushed photographed but she’s more like telephone book font than poetry. LOL. If you catch my drift.
I still want an answer my question from post #2!
One more thing:
You never know but I doubt that a black woman would put enough time and energy in a satirical website such as that. Believe it or not, I don’t think the typical black American woman really cares about some random black guy with a white or non-black female.
Now, if THEIR MAN or a man that they find desirable, it may be a different story. Maybe.
Again, want an answer to the question I posed above!
i noticed that you put the PR model above on your blackbeautyoftheday website. she’s beautiful, don’t get me wrong, i just feel kind of weird about it since you pulled it from a blog where the man was praising her beauty because of her white features. i don’t know if you’re sending out a message or something….
That Puerto Rican model is definitely Black.
Mynameismyname,
The PR model is not white. She’s part Black as you stated in your post and yet, that inner white supremacist owner wants to claim her as the exception. He then criticize Black women such as Tyra, Beyonce, etc., as being fake. Yet, he chose to worship a woman who is just as Black as Beyonce! Think about it!!!
“You could argue that I am just so many bad dates away from creating a white goddess website myself”
please don’t ever seriously give up on black women. anyone who would actually give up on an entire race of people and say the things that that man says is the stupidest kind of stupid
If this blog isn’t a satire it should be. I get the sneaking suspicion it just may be. It may be along the same lines as the site ‘Black People Love Us’. At least I hope so. ‘His WordPress username, tnameat – tits-and-ass meat – also seems to be part of a joke. Who calls himself that with a straight face’? Who indeed? If this is for real than it is sad. My new moniker is cnb, figure it out LOL. Perhaps I;ll start a blog and call it ‘Man Meat Galore’ or ‘Men Hos in Heat’ and hold a poll to give it a name that doesn’t objectify the male body. I know, I’ll call it “Men are from Mars and I’m from Uranus!
Who wrote that ridiculous blog, Uncle Ruckus from the show Boondocks?!?!
Wonder if he washes himself daily with a mixture of bleach and sulphur? At least I think that was the re-vitiligo treatment that Ruckus concocted.
He sounds less like a man with a preference and more like a man with more issues than a comic book.
He likes em’ white and saline filled appearenty (the way he looks at even those women is questionable). Lol it is what it is. I thought this would piss me off but I just ended up chuckling in disbelief (for which I ended up feeling bad because I know the process of which a black person has to go through to end up actually worshipping another race)
It’s not my place to say if Bianca Holland is black or not, there are a few people in my family who fit that description and they consider themselves to be black and it would be kind of weird to hear some random person try to tell them they weren’t (as if it really mattered). I just find it funny how any man can go on about how all the women in his life were just soooo terrible while he kept his sh*t sooo tight and without fault, come on buddy, you’re getting old and you realized it pointless to hide what you like, that’s all, its just that you’re being a blow hard about it.
Most PR’s, regardless of skin tone, are of mixed African, Spanish, and Native ancestry (like other Afro Hispanics from Latin American nations in the Caribbean).
It’s not surprising that this this DUMB, IGNORANT, DBR, ANTI-BW HATER BM doesn’t know this OBVIOUS FACT.
Bianca Holland looks black to me too. I put her in the post as an example of how mixed up he seems to me. He says he likes her because of her European features, but I think he is fooling himself. I think it is her blackness that he likes but does not want to admit it. I mean, what would you think if I did a post on “White women are beautiful” and used Jennifer Beals as my example?
The Uncle Ruckus comparisons – LOL.
Abagond,
Will you answer the question I posed?
Court said:
i noticed that you put the PR model above on your blackbeautyoftheday website. she’s beautiful, don’t get me wrong, i just feel kind of weird about it since you pulled it from a blog where the man was praising her beauty because of her white features. i don’t know if you’re sending out a message or something….
Well, whatever he says or wants to believe, to me she is beautiful because she is black, not because she is some kind of imitation white woman.
Mynameismyname: I have not forgotten. I am going to comment on it next.
Mynameismyname said:
I have a question: Let’s say you, Aba, decide to forgo black women for their white counterparts. How many white women in the U.S. do you think would be willing to date you? Would it be the general white woman or a specific type?
I was thinking just that when I wrote the post. The answer is not many, maybe 1%. White women have never seemed particularly interested in me, not even enough to nail it down to a particular type.
hmm…i don’t know if its a satire…abagond are you aware of the youtube crazies who do alot of stuff similar to this. He might just be stupid and not know any better…the bluest eye thing, he could just not be aware of the book and just be stupid…idk
You aren’t posting a lot of my different articles. After all some of our articles even very afro-centric people I know have read it and have openly admitted they make good points. Bianca Holland is not a sexual fantasy of mine. I think you should post some of the pics where she is made to look white.
I’m an insomniac, plus Aba’s blog is addictive. That White goddess blog is hilarious and sad at the same time knowing that this black/biracial/whatever person is preaching all this crap that has these neo nazi types nodding in agreement. And how “afrocentric” can a person who agrees with the logic that all black women are beneath white women be? You make all these sweeping statements about black women and hair and nails blah blah, I’m sure somewhere at this moment there’s a white guy slamming his sister while listening to Bob Denver, what does that mean? Not a damn thing. You, like so many other black men want to spray themselves with “nigga no mo”.
I didn’t know light eyes and relaxed hair were a white features.LOL!
Maybe I am blind but the PR model doesn’t seem that’s mix to me and I don’t see her so- called white features or mixed heritage.LOL!
Is it me or did most of the women on his site have breast implants? And saying he prefers WW because of their curvy bodies and full lips? Umm… whatever dude.
A lot of black women have light eyes and non-kinky hair. That doesn’t mean anything. The only thing that truly separates black from white is ancestry. And even then it’s always a question of “how far back do you go?”
Ugh, I almost lost my breakfast. I googled “White Goddess” and ended up here by mistake:
http://www.whitegoddess.com/
oh god… that website is HORRIBLE to both black and white women… all women are GORGEOUS (with or without silicon) and no one is meat ewwww!
Interesting response, Aba.
You always hear so much about black men and white women together- as this pairing is the most controversial and unnerving in the Western world- but you never hear anyone explore the white woman’s perspective in that situation.
I originally asked the question in terms of how many white women would be willing to date a black man period. How many do you think? The general white woman or again, a specific type? We’ve already explored how white American men feel or don’t feel about their black female counterparts. What about the women? I’m really interested in seeing your answer. Don’t forget this time! LOL.
Nubiah,
I thought the same thing.
I also found it puzzling that this satirist (which hopefully he/she is because if they’re not, they’re seriously mentally insane) posts an obvious black woman (in this case, PR model Bianca Holland) and praises her appearance when his/her website is supposed to be praising the joys and wonders of white women! LOL.
And you’re right, light eyes and looser textures of hair are HUMAN TRAITS, not exclusively “European” ones. If that’s case, then Irish people are black since they’re famous for their broad noses and kinky hair. LOL.
Forget about Bianca Holland you are focusing too much on one article about European features in latino and black women. There are many more on this like Kim Kardashian, who dyed her hair blonde, Beyonce and her weave etc.
Also MOST of the women on the site with big breasts have natural big breasts; Lucy Pinder, Sammy Braddy, Sophie Howard, Michelle Marsh, Ewa Sonnet, Katie Downes, Keeley Hazell etc. 80% of the women on this site have real breasts. Big breasts do not mean fake. “Oh they are big so much be fake.” is such a lazy response.
tnameat:
I did not read your whole blog but read posts here and there to get a sense of it. What are some of the posts where Afrocentric sorts said you made good points? Which ones did I miss that would bring more balance to my description?
abagond
I have no problem if you hate my site, most people like yourself will hate it. That’s fine, but like you said want a more balanced bashing.
Some Articles (Some)Black Women could respect:
Myth Black Women Have Better Butts Pt. 1
Kim Kardashian Goes Blonde
Ethnic Genocide
Forgotten: Viola Gregg Liuzzo & An Apology
White Women Are Healthier/live longer- (black women liked this article only because it revealed the health problems within black community)
those are the ones that stand out at the mom
[links provided by Abagond]
Mynameisnyname:
I do not know how many white American women would be willing to seriously date black men. My guess is somewhere south of 10%.
If you listen to some of the commenters on this blog you would think that white women are swooping down and taking away all the black men. Maybe I live in the wrong part of the country or travel in the wrong circles, but I have not seen that. At all. It is the exception, not the rule.
The white women I see black men with seem to be either gorgeous, tall, thin blondes or dumpy-looking brunettes with a defeated look in their eyes. That is how it seems.
A mainstream white American female point of view would be interesting. But few white women comment here and most of the ones who do seem to travel in interracial circles (and now hate me if they are brunette).
Abagond from reading his blogs with intellectual reading, I could see ending up on Oprah
This other guy is definitely Jerry Springer material
nuff said
Another stereotype abagond? Wow if this site is a “satire” site like you claim then right now you are proving my point. You and me aren’t much different, two men with racial preferences on the opposite end of the spectrum. I’ve read your blog, while I have been raised to love white women, you love or rather loved black women or rather even A black woman…..bitter much? Interracial relationships are increasing many successful and smart white women are dating black men. More importantly, I am one on my blog who has posted on several occasions not all black men deserve white women.
tnameat:
Wow, I got my answer: your blog is not satire. You are not joking about this stuff. It is worse than I thought.
There is nothing wrong with dating white women, but if it means putting down black women, then you are self-hating and that is serious and sick. And to raise up another race of women, most of whom look down on you, is at best profoundly delusional.
Call me names, be a low life and drag more of my personal life into this thread, but it does not change the fact about you.
Good for him, he’s is white women’s problem now!!
i told you abagond…i told you. he’s just like the youtube crazies all over the place…
This tna blogger’s site is so demeaning to white women that any good white professional woman would run a mile from this guy if he ever revealed his identity to them. And most white men would keep their daughters and sisters away from him as well.( They’ll be thinking’ The difference between him and these Black TV misogynist hip hop rappers is his suit!’)
He’s only going to attract pretty much a white stripper( and he’d probably be proud of it as well!)white women from dysfunctional families who have been abused/have no self esteem, or a whie prostitute…
Colour doesn’t matter
You can have a very dark skinned Black person and a very light skinned person..
It won’t be their color which will make them a success,,,It will be the amount of SELF ESTEEM AND CONFIDENCE that will determine which one is successful.
My Dad is extremely dark as well as alot of his family.He was never ashamed of being dark and loved his kids hair being natural afro and our nose flat. He surpassed alot of the light skinned people in his family and wellfinancially successful while living in a white environment.
My Mom’s family is East Indian (light skinned) but they are hung up on whiteness like this blogger. They have failed to achieve like my Dad’s side of the family. They spend too much time analysing superficial qualities in people (like skin colour)which was detrimental to their self esteem/confidence
louise better yet bw can keep the good ones like the abagonds who cares about the tnameat’s of the world…
I’ve just been on that website.
I’ve got a few words for the blogger of that site:
GET A LIFE!!!
I only brought up personal stuff because you personally attacked me. Feel free to attack my site though, I actually like when stuff like that happens gives me a chance to prove my point and my dedication.
I actually like you, you have some level of courage. One black woman attacked my blog saying I was promoting “ethnic genocide” so I made the article and challenged her to respond. A day later she took down her little pathetic article attacking my site. Fact of the matter is there are many people who believe in my blog whether you like it or not. btw I respect your blog.
..And many of them are white supremacists in an already white supremacist country…grats.
Tnameat I left a post on your horrible site.
And I love being black!
And send love to The Guru for me, I really appreciate him defending bw
(The Guru if you’re reading this *hugsx1000*)
I couldn’t give love to The Guru, because your site only let me post once.
And here is the website with the natural bw
http://blackgirllonghair.blogspot.com/
^^^^^
Its a movement! Maybe you and abagond should make a post about it on your sites.
Aba, For the longest time I thought you were white man….but now i’m not sure…are you black or white? not that it matters i’m just curious.
i’m pretty sure abagond is a black man…i could be wrong
i’ve been to the website and i was disgusted because it’s racist against black women. people made comments about we’re jealous of white women and want to be like them, say that white women live longer than black women which i disagree and can give a damn what statistics say! i don’t want to be white nor do i want to look like them. and as far as i’m concerned, wasn’t white women were trying to look like us when at a time we were considered ugly and our butts we’re big and freakish? yes white women are beautiful too but they are insecure with their bodies and are trying to fit in with the beauty standards and it’s mostly them. white goddess must be a racist against black women because all you do is down is just to make yourself feel good.
After I read you article, I was discussed by the possibility of such a website (I actually think it’s real). This is what I posted on this dude’s blog, hopefully he’ll let the comment through:
“As a black woman, this blog, the comments, and the mission of the site really hurts my heart. I usually don’t let random blogs like this get to me but like some of the other commenters said, there is some real racism going on here, throughout the site.
To believe a race is more beautiful or superior than another IS racism. To believe white women are more intelligent, sincere, or whatever other reasons you list is a generalization just like the generalizations and stereotypes you have attached to black women. Not all black women are ignorant, lazy, ghetto, or have the qualities the man who denounces himself as a “sell-out” in the letter says.
I think you have some real identity issues and maybe if you made an effort to really understand the other part of your heritage (sit in on some African American Studies classes at a local college or hang around a group of black people dedicated to a cause) you might find beauty in our women beyond the superficial qualifications for appearance you do in white woman.
In addition, a lot of the things you talk about disliking in black women are some things that actually ARE apparent in black culture but instead of merely attributing it to our race and gender, you need to consider the years of oppression and racism existent in American history which may account for some of these tendencies. I can’t explain all this to you in one post but I thought I needed to comment on your blog because I strongly believe that it is because of men like you that African American women have the lowest marriage rate in the U.S. and low rates of successful relationships.
Lets face it, in general, no other race of men really find black women attractive and if our own race doesn’t, what’s going to happen to the black woman?”
“Lets face it, in general, no other race of men really find black women attractive and if our own race doesn’t, what’s going to happen to the black woman?”
black women aren’t going anywhere…we’ve been around since the birth of humanity and we aint going anywhere any time soon…sorry to dissapoint those who would like to see us gone but it aint happenin…
kaya, that last part about black women not wanted by race and say men don’t find us attractive is b.s. because society chooses to show black women as being ugly, lazy and ghetto and some people are stupid enough to believe that. there are plenty of black men that want and loves black women as much as abagond do. hell some white men loves us but don’t want to admit it. i agree with someone above me said, black women aren’t going nowhere and i’ll be damn is i let society or anyone think i’m ugly because i’m a black woman? i love being black and not ashamed and the ones that love to bash on us are insecure with themselves and doesn’t see beauty outside the race.
i meant to say if.
Kaya says,
Lets face it, in general, no other race of men really find black women attractive and if our own race doesn’t, what’s going to happen to the black woman?”
laromana says,
Although I respect your attempt to reason with the DUMB, USELESS,IGNORANT, DBR, ANTI-BW HATER BM who owns the GARBAGE blog we’re discussing, please don’t believe the LIE that “NO OTHER RACE FINDS BW ATTRACTIVE” because there are men in EVERY RACE who do.
Choose to REJECT ANTI-BW LIES, MYTHS, and STEREOTYPES that TRASH the HUMANITY, DIGNITY, and FEMININITY of BW.
Only in a white men world would you find a lot of people not finding Black Women attractive, because they live in “their” world.
I’m from Congo, and trust me, when you live in a Black men world, we are amongs blacks who love blacks and a few black men/women are attracted by people with another color.
My conclusion : we need to travel more accross the world to see the diversity and to learn to love our own people. If we don’t love ourselves, who will ? And if we want other to love us, we need to love ourselves first.
Now that i’m living in europe i am proud to walk with my black women. And when I was in Africa I was still proud to walk with my black girlfriends.
Wow. Wow and wow, again @TNAMEAT. How dare you conjure up such a narrow-minded POV, create a blog about it and then say “You and me aren’t much different, two men with racial preferences on the opposite end of the spectrum”. As Agabond stated, there’s nothing wrong with your desire to date another race, but to do the compare and contrast thing that men LIKE YOU do to justify that desire is not only unecessary but it points to mixed up, dropped on the head at birth thought process you are accused of having. Did you seriously say that you were RAISED to love white women ?? OMG!! If this is true, shame on your family, if not, shame on you for saying some twisted s*it like that.
And you deserve an Emmy nod for this f*ckery right here:
“There is no love that is equal to the love that a black man can have for a white woman. As black men we have been privileged to have a view of your eminence in a way that is unique only to the American experience.
You have a sense of confidence and self understanding that no other woman can share, because from your earliest experiences, you knew that you were special. While understanding what sets you apart from other women, your exceptional love and compassion forces you to dim your own light as not to burden them with your greatness.”
Dear heart, the only thing I will ever beg of you is PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT PROCREATE!!!! PLEASE!
the white goddess who is puerto rican looks mixed race. shouldn’t he be picking charlize theron or something? otherwise it seems like a blog about lastinos. silly man i don’t really care what women he finds beautiful. so sad because all races can be attractive.
Actually i take my comment back , i wouldn’t want white women to have to be sullied by this man either, nor arab, nor asian women.
If he loves white women that’s ok, So do many of my male relatives, but what is not nessecary is to use white women to beat down black women. If this man truely loves white women, the reason that he likes them should be enough, he should not have to quantify it by demeaning other women.
I’m still waiting for a response to my question Aba. Black or white?
I’m still waiting for a response to my question Aba. Black or white?
I’ve never seen Abagond come out and explicitly say it but I believe he is a black man of Jamaican descent who was raised, at least partially, in the US.
i thought he was of haitian descent…i think he is a black man who graduated from Columbia U.
To buchesofoats:
i thought he was of haitian descent…i think he is a black man who graduated from Columbia U.
He very well could be… although the letters to his mother that he has published on this blog have been in English but he could have translated them. I know he has made several trips to Jamaica but that could be because of his wife’s family. I probably should have said he is of Caribbean descent.
If you guys are so offended dont read it. Nobody is forcing you to.
It’s odd that Black women who look “white” are generaly said to be better looking.
And white women with ethnic features are said to be better looking.
Maybe it’s the mean that we men find most attractive.
Abagond said:
“The white women I see black men with seem to be either gorgeous, tall, thin blondes or dumpy-looking brunettes with a defeated look in their eyes. That is how it seems.”
“dumpy-looking brunettes with a defeated look in their eyes.”
These are known as the white man’s rejects.
^known as bigotry from jealous people who want a white woman for themselves.
But you’re the bigot t/a. ( and of dubious morals judging by the pornographic pictures on your site.) You pick women because they are White. And you have an obvious distaste for Black women. That’s not called preference. That’s called racism. I live in Europe. Here, you see alot the whitest guy with a pretty dark skinned girl with natural hair. When it comes to dating here a substantial amount just don’t care about skin tone, hair type, eye colour or maintaining racial european purity. We mix with all cultures. The number 1 take out dish in England is East Indian Curry, not pizza or fish and chips! Don’t deprive yourself of other cultures! Travel to Europe, Africa, and see how amazing EVERYONE IS!
Just because I’m closed off to dating a race doesnt mean I hate them. But props for you guys actually discussing this, when I made an open challenge to this one black woman she backed off like a coward even though she was bashing my blog on her site. As I’ve said in an article I have no shame about my black heritage I celebrate Kwanza for crying out loud! Its just white women for me! Period.
tna.
What’s the name of the blog where the black woman bashed you?
Abagond if you are hatian sak passe!
To those who believe I am Haitian, Nigerian or something else:
I wrote a post about myself. You can find a link to it on the About page. That is what About pages are for. Use it. There I admit to as much of my sex, age, nationality, race, religion, politics, weight, height, eye colour, income, address, sexual orientation, musical tastes and interracial dating history as I care to or feel safe to. Remember, I am writing under a pen name for a reason.
For the same reason when commenters assume certain things about my identity I do not correct them, not even when they spell my name wrong (which, strangely, is the most grating).
Also, this is an English-language blog. Some of what is here was in another language and has been translated. There are certain constructions in English that I avoid because they sound ugly to me because of that other language. There, that should add to the mystery.
http://blackconsciousthought.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-have-all-good-black-men-gone.html
this is the blog. How is this blog so much more different than mine?
“Also, this is an English-language blog. Some of what is here was in another language and has been translated. There are certain constructions in English that I avoid because they sound ugly to me because of that other language. There, that should add to the myster”
woah…so you’re bilingual that’s cool…
i would want to date someone who is bilingual, so they can pass it on to our children
@tnameat
Correction I meet your challenge head on and called you the idiot that you are in the process. You and your sick disturbed mother managed to prove two of my points CORRECT.
Here is the correct link:
http://blackconsciousthought.blogspot.com/2009/07/two-birds-killed-with-one-stone.html
Funny how you love to link to my blog but tend to give the incorrect link to my post in which I responded to you. The link you posted has NOTHING to do with you. It’s about an obvious gender gap in the city of Atlanta. Everyone interested in reading my response to this fool simply click the link I have posted.
And for those interested in knowing TNAMEAT came over to my blog for no other reason than advertising his site. He called himself responding to my theory of ethnic genocide. When it became clear to me that he was seeking readers I removed the links posted by another reader (this was after TNAMEAT replied to said comment with a comment basically asking readers to read his BS). You won’t ever advertise that BS on my blog.
The link in my above comment is the response he got from me. I used him and his mother as an example of my theory. I couldn’t ask for a better fool to make an example out of in terms of that theory. Enjoy!
Peace.
You go, blaqueconscious! Lovin’ it!
@L.T.
TNAMEAT is a liar who loves to distort facts. Black men are not paying his blog any attention which is why he resorts to starting confrontation with people who do have readers. He know people are not feeling blog. Even the folks on interracial forms (which he linked my blog to also) have told him to go kill himself. It is hilarious to read some of their comments to him.
One of my readers posted a comment about him in which she linked his blog. He seized the opportunity to advertise his blog. I delete his comment and those links. There is no way in hell I going to allow a racist white man stuck in a biracial man’s body to advertise on my blog.
I originally ignored his ethnic genocide post which he posted BEFORE he made the comment on my blog. I figured it wasn’t worth arguing with what I thought at the time was a BLACK MAN with a fetish for white porn. After I learned he was in fact biracial and read his post about his white mother I decided to make an example out of him and his mother using my ethnic genocide theory. Ever since then the moron has been going around linking my blog.
You folks just don’t know the half of it. TNAMEAT is one sick puppy. He needs to seek help.
I read a portion of his site, he’s so deranged its almost medically fascinating. He makes sweeping generalizations of both black and white women to excuse his hatred and it sounds like his mother is a racist white woman who used her son (a biracial one at that) to uplift and sooth her warped self esteem. While he is fun to discuss, hatred is ingrained in him, he is lost.
One strange thing I noticed about his blog when I was researching it is that he has hidden the demographic information on quantcast.com:
http://www.quantcast.com/whitemeat.wordpress.com
Instead of seeing a breakdown of his visitors by race you see this message: “Demographics data has been hidden by the owner.” Presumably he does not get many black visitors.
tnameat said:
http://blackconsciousthought.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-have-all-good-black-men-gone.html
this is the blog. How is this blog so much more different than mine?
What are you talking about? I went there expecting to see a white man worship blog by a black woman who bashes all black men – the female analogue of your website. Nothing like it.
Abagond,
And you won’t find anything like it. TNAMEAT has been reaching for straws every since I deleted his advertisement on my blog, and dissed his mother. Anyone who follows my blog can tell you that I openly support ONLY black love. You can read my responses to comments on that post and see that.
Like I said before this guy is not getting the attention he seeks for his whitemeat blog so he goes around advertising and starting confrontations with other bloggers. Even the interracial lovers on the forum he frequents (and which he linked my blog…similar to what he did here) hates his guts. I never laughed so hard in my life at all the comments that read, “Go kill yourself.”
I hope he seeks help…It’s downright scary to run across individuals like him. Personally I blame his mother. She successfully spread her racism to her half black son. It’s sickening…just sickening what type of man his white mother raised him to be….all I can do is shake my head.
This TNAMeat guy seems troll-ish to me. I still haven’t visited his blog but from the descriptions that come from other posters, he just seems to be trying to get a rise out of people. It’s too outlandish.
Also, I don’t know why some posters are emphasizing that he has a white mother. Like that changes something. Black is black and self-hate is self-hate. No matter how far a black American’s Euro blood goes back.
Aba, do you feel that posters’ insistent desire to know your ethnicity stems from their need to put you in a box or out of simple curiousity? I figured you were West Indian from day one from certain expressions that you’ve said and certain perspectives. I grew up with plenty West Indians so I know one from a computer screen! LOL.
I think they just want to put me in a box. Americans like to do that, especially outside of New York.
I do not think tnameat is a troll, a trouble-making attention-seeker. Sadly, I think he is utterly and completely serious.
I agree that his being half-white makes little difference. He is still black and he knows it.
mynameismyname (and anyone else who has not seen the White Goddess blog):
You should check out the website for yourself. It is dangerous to go by the comments you see on a hostile blog. Nothing beats seeing it for yourself:
http://whitemeat.wordpress.com/
yeah I went on and commented on his sellout post. I tried to read throuugh the post but it is truly sickening.
I really tried to make it a point to try to hear some type of response from him and I should of knew better. For my words(paragraghs really) all I got was “I read it I respect your opinion, I’m not changing mine.” I shouldn’t expected more but he did say that chanelleging him only strenghthened his dedication but that really only showed lazy and narrowminded thought process.
^^
I finally browsed the blog. Wow. I know one thing: if I were a white woman, I wouldn’t feel complimented. Matter of fact, I believe that the majority of everyday white women (of all ages) who would view this blog would be utterly disguted.
This guy seems to have more of a fetish than “genuine love” for white women. I still believe that this TNAMeat character is a bit too over-the-top and ironic. Yet if he is dead serious in his intent he is another example of the weirdos that the internet attracts like flies!
That is the way it struck me at first too: over-the-top and ironic. But now I see he is dead serious and therefore, to put it in the nicest way, he is delusional.
‘blaqueconscious’
Is hijacking(for lack of a better word) posts in order to divert traffic to blog sites common?(I don’t read may blogs so don’t know). If so, tna has only served to make himself more of an object of derision than he already is.
I went to your blog and I did-not see anything remotely resembling his interpretation as to what he claims you wrote. He’s also being disingenuous when directing readers to the wrong post. I went to the actual post he was referring to. If anyone wants confirmation of this man’s mental derangement, this post contains it. Basically this man states it was his white mother who set him on this road to lunacy. Apparently his mother suffered insults from her mother-in-law and other black women or so she claimed. She then goes on to expound the purity and superiority of ‘white women’ and how non-black women are inferior and therefore jealous, hence the horrible treatment towards the mother or something to that effect. tna then goes on to comfort his mother and assures her that he will abide by her admonishments or something to that effect. A right regular vomit inducing sob story if I ever heard one. Another thing that makes me question his mental capacities is the fact that he would go on her blog or any blog dealing with black issues(whatever the topic) and expect to garner any type of sympathy whatsoever. Did he expect to be welcomed with open arms? It’s as blaqueconscious says;’he’s a biracial man in a white mans body’, He is also propagating white supremacy at it’s most virulent.
Yes, this man is defintely delusional since he appears to be dead-serious.
Something is clearly wrong with him. Seriously.
Let’s reverse it, if a white woman did a unironic website that was supposed to be a tribute to the black men that she loved, would a black man be flattered? Or disguted and scared for his life? LOL.
Just imagine it: the “Black Mandigo” blog where white men get bashed and black men get celebrated by a white woman! I could see it now!
Don’t laugh. There probably are blogs about white women worshiping black men. If you Google the topic you’ll probably get thousands of hits. That is if you’d care to. If they’re anything like tna’s blog maybe he should go to these in order to hook up with these women. If they fetishize black men as Mandingo, he may not, to their mind be black enough! Oh, how ironic that would be! Mirror images untie!
LOL at the last two comments.
@Herneith
Yes, it’s fairly common but I’ve never had anyone stalk my blog like TNAMEAT. The guy has some major problems. He just continues to link the WRONG post in hopes of swaying African Americans to see his point of view. I think he believes people will only look at the title of the article without actually reading the post. This was the last straw for me. I ignored his lies on other blogs and forms in which he linked my blog, but I couldn’t allow it on this blog.
My blog centers around the issues of African Americans. He actually thought I was going to accept his advertisement of his site on my blog. He actually thought I was going to generate some traffic for his blog. When that didn’t happen he became upset and started linking my post (the incorrect post he linked on this blog). Now he’s over on abagond’s site trying to mislead his followers and attract attention to his site.
Don’t give this guy anymore attention. The best thing to do is to ignore the idiot. I imagine he must be an extremely miserable individual.
Honestly, I sense a little Norman Bates somewhere in there and that’s just terrifically creepy.
As a young bw(16 yrs old driving soon..yeah)white meat hurts like hell,I mean it hurts to know that i can get turn down for my color,and then people that visit that blog believe everything and those things aren’t even true.They are quick to think I am jealous,angry, and want to be a white girl and that is far form true. And then the post about white women being better mothers that means somehow my mom is doing something wrong raising me.
Visited that blog a little bit ago and all I can say is that he is certifiable(nuthouse material) to say the least.
tnameat:
A good example of what your blog is not is this one, Black Beautiful Women:
http://www.blackisbeautiful.se/
It is done by a white man in Sweden. Like you he prefers a race of women not his own, but please note what he does NOT do:
- He does not bash women of his own race (so far as I could tell).
- He does not fill his blog with pictures of half-naked black women and booty-shaking videos, which he could easily do. His pictures are respectful (of the ones I have seen).
I think he does exoticize black women, but given that he lives in Sweden that might be hard to avoid.
WOW abagond:
MANY beautiful women on there. I’m in awe…..lol
That site just SHOWS the BEAUTY of a BLACK woman.
They all are very beautiful to me. From the light skin tone to the darkest skin tone.
Thanks for sharing that.
A good example of what your blog is not is this one, Black Beautiful Women:
http://www.blackisbeautiful.se/
Say what you will about tnameat (and a lot can be said), but at least as far as I can tell, he is not trying to make money off of White women like the Swede is trying to make off of Black women:
http://checkerofreality.blogspot.com/2009/07/white-bwoy-loves-black-women-starting.html
@Truth B.
I don’t care about the Sweden guy, but there is one thing I can tell is : the best way to make money is to do it with your passion.
If his passion is black women (or brown women if he don’t like BLACK women) then whatever. Commenting against him won’t stop anything, he’ll keep doing his thing.
On the otherside, tnameat is not smart enough it seems to try to sell his bs.
“but at least as far as I can tell, he is not trying to make money off of White women like the Swede is trying to make off of Black women:”
Way to MISREPRESENT an EXCELLENT PRO-BW blog, DISRESPECT/LIE about the BW who support this blog, and minimize a SELF HATING/PERV’S, GARBAGE blog.
Spoken like a typical ANTI-BW DBR.
Wow but you still failed to answer my call to reply on MY BLOG but w/e you can bash my blog all you want Idont really care I like what I like you like what you like. We’ll leave it at that and agree to disagree.
What “call to reply on MY BLOG”?
Trying to sell black women T-shirts seems less bad to me than bashing them and calling them bad mothers, etc.
If tnameat tried to sell T-shirts to white women I think it would force him to make his blog less creepy. It would be a step up.
As blaqueconscious points out on her blog, one of the posts on White Goddess is this one:
“What to Do When Child Starts Liking Non-White Women: Raising Our Children to Love White Women Part 2″
Among other things he says:
Luckily [my mother] loved me enough to guide my already natural love for white women into my absolute honor of them today. But all of our children wont be so lucky and might find themselves one day having an attraction to a non-white woman….
If your child brings home a non-white woman be polite to the girl after all it is not her fault she is not the cream of the crop but as soon as she leaves criticize her and tell your son to steer clear of her. But do all of this in love, as you arent doing this for yourself you are doing it for the benefit of him.
You can read it in full here (NSFW: it has a picture of two naked white women making out):
http://whitemeat.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/what-to-do-when-child-starts-liking-non-white-women-raising-our-children-to-love-white-women-part-2/
^And I am doing it for the benefit of my child!
SLC1,
You are so young! Don’t let some random internet crap bring you down. Sure there are some people who believe that garbage, but you wouldn’t want to associate with them anyway. Online, a lot of opinions are inflated, because the most negative people are usually the most vocal. In real life, the people you encounter who express disdain for BW will be few and far between, because most (reasonable) people tend to avoid things they don’t like. What sense does it make to waste mental energy on something you can’t stand anyway? *gives tna the side-eye*
oh and black conscious though btw I went to your site because I say in my blog stat tracker that you were linking to it, I have better things to do to worry about what other bloggers are posting.
Sorry, I think I have multiple names here. Sometimes the gravatar pops up, other times it doesn’t. I am both Jasmin and Jasmins11, but I am not Jasmine (with an e).
tnameat
how do you benfit a child by preaching hate? curious.
Jasmin thank you,btw the way TNAMEAT you need THERAPY!
i’m not a psychologist but i believe this person is an isolated loner who was a misfit at school and girls of all races stayed away from. As a result, 2 things happened. 1. He targeted Black women because it’s easy to do so as they are more vulnerable to negative images and stereotypes. This is the easiest target to promote his own inadequacies thus giving him an artificial sense of superiority. 2. He feels he isn’t good enough for white women, can’t keep one or get one so he has had to fantasize about them sexually. The pictures on his site reflects the sexually unbalanced fantasies transferred from his brain to internet.
There is a psychological theory about people who have severe inadequacies. They project their failings on a victim or group thus rendering themselves guiltless. This individual also shows signs of being a sex offender culminating in becoming a serial killer.
Jasmin11:
I believe your avatar is keyed to the email address you enter, so if you use a different email address it will not show up. There are zillions of Jasmines – at least three of them comment on this blog – but only one person with your email address.
To Abagond:
I think they just want to put me in a box. Americans like to do that, especially outside of New York.
FWIW, I was responding to someone else’s question. Personally it’s not a big concern of mine what ethnicity you are, but after reading your comments on the blog entry (part 1) “Why white men don’t marry black women” I was pretty convinced you were not white man (or at least if you were you were not from the US..) because your comments were very incongruous with my experiences.
My point was that neither tnameat’s nor the Swede’s “love” was a shining example that one can be used as an example against the other.
The http://www.blackisbeautiful.se/ blog is an excellent PRO-BW blog and the blog owner has GENUINE LOVE/RESPECT for BW, unlike the SICK, SELF HATING perv who owns the tna blog.
There is NO COMPARISON between the two sites/site owners.
The Swede’s website is not perfect, but compared to tnameat’s blog it is a shining example, one he would do well to follow.
Did anyone find the concept of that blog funny? I thought it was satire too, but when I read the comments confirming otherwise it became funnier. Maybe I’m weird. lol.
To the girl who was made to feel bad by this blog, DON’T!!
DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO THIS LOWLIFE TO MAKE YOUR SELF FEEL BAD.
This person has serious issues and belongs in jail/asylum with round-the-clock therapy.
There are 6 billion people in this world. You’r not going to be friends with all of them. Only be concerned with courting favour from good decent human beings who are out to make a positive difference in the world. The rest( Like TnA) don’t count. They’ll never get far in life. They are only worthy of being ignored or ridiculed..
Ironically, if TnA had been in Nazi Germany, the NAZI’s would have skipped him to the front of ths line to get gassed.
Link his Blog to some Neo Nazi/White Supremicist sites, then he’ll find out how Black he really is when he sees their comments about his porno pics of white women
Janet:
Once I found it it was not satire, it was too sick to be funny any more.
I notice on one off Tna comments about white female and black male couples are increasing, did he mention the increasing rate of divorce.Black female white male couples has a low rate of divorce.I really don’t feel bad anymore.
I have been kicked off of White Goddess:
Abagond: … I never said my racism was a good thing. Also, tnameat’s racism is way more extreme.
tnameat: Wow you are such a hypocrite dont comment on here anymore, please!
That is from the comments under the Mission Statement.
One of his commenters has started a blog of his own, Ivory Road:
http://ivoryroad.wordpress.com/
I left a comment on the blog. tnameat is indeed sad. I grabbed his comment off the ivoryroad blog.
tnameat
September 1, 2009 at 1:34 am
I dont care either, people are allowed to do whatever they want as long as its legal of course. If a woman finds love we should be happy for her, not bash it. Regardless of race.
I guess its ok for a woman to find love…as long as she’s white (a shout out to mommy?). If he truly felt that way he wouldn’t be bashing black women the way he does lol.
These men must really hate their mothers, sisters, grandmothers, aunts, cousins etc. They characterize their attractions as a ‘preference’, it makes them feel better. And they can rationalize their disdain towards women of their own racialized group. In a perfect world people wouldn’t even think twice about who or what you choose to date, marry etc. However, this world is far from perfect, so I think for the most part, many of these men are self-loathing.
A preference to me is liking a man who is tall, short, medium height, skinny, fat, muscular etc. Most people prefer people from their own racialized groups, with the above characterizations acting as a reference point. That is, if they have any sort of self esteem, self awareness of their history and haven’t been totally brain washed in some way by media, society etc. The fact that you have to put one group of people down based upon their and your own racialization speaks volumes to your own internalized racism.
Congratulations on your bid to whiten your progeny! Why, in a few generations they will be able to pass for white and propagate your hatred towards blacks! They will reinforce your own self-loathing based upon what you’ve taught them! Heck, they will be self-loathing as well of their black ancestry but hey, it will be a watered down version. They may not even realize this hopefully that is if you do your job well.
Perhaps you can sit around the fireplace with your ‘white’ grandchildren and teach them to disdain, insult and castigate blacks based upon stereotypes which you will heartily endorse. You can then repair to the rec room with the grand kids where you can even put yourself forward to that ‘rare jewel’ an exception to 95% of the rule in regard to black stereotypes. By this time you will have distanced yourself from surviving black family members, who knows you may have already cut yourself off from them years ago! Can’t sully the ‘white’ grand kids with black folks with their bad ways now can we?
I will give you this though, by whitening your progeny, you and your ilk have saved many black women with having to put up with your lunacy and by extension contamination of their respective gene pools. The sane white women will probably have nothing to do with you once they realize they are being fetishized and that you are an internalized racist. The white woman who are racist and fetishize black men will worship you as the ‘Mandingo’ knight in ’shinning armor’ that you truly are! Hey you’d be killing two birds with one stone with them;they get to enjoy their fetish for black men and still maintain their racist attitude towards blacks in general, after all, your that one in a million black man who isn’t like the 98% of the rest of blacks, a real prize! Again, bravo! Sarcasm intended. Have a nice day.
Hey everyone, did anyone see the skit on the David Chappelle show where he played a black, blind klux klansman. It was hilarious. This guy hated black people and made really racist comments about blacks because for some reason he did not know he was black too! This reminds me of this guy, the only thing is he is even more pitiful because he is not blind (not in the physical sense at least)!
Color struck white worshiping house negroes like him make me sick. Nothing is wrong with seeing the beauty in all races but when you uplift another race of women and put down your own, that is just disgusting. If he was my son I would be ashamed of him.
I think this is a white man claiming to e black to stir up hatred and internalized racism amongst black women.
Just another phony.
Never heard of this blog but I’ll take a look. It’s weird for anyone to be that obsessive, but to each his own. I’m sure there’s at least one white man that’s obsessed with black women like that, or Asian women, and probably every type of woman.
According to a woman that was closely associated with Osama Bin Laden, he had an obsession with Whitney Houston to the point that he was going to have Bobby Brown iced. Don’t know if I believe it but you never know. It’s a strange world full of strange people.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-401627/Obsessed-bin-Laden-wanted-kill-Whitney-Houstons-husband.html
“CANT SERVE 2 MASTERS
Color struck white worshiping house negroes like him make me sick. Nothing is wrong with seeing the beauty in all races but when you uplift another race of women and put down your own, that is just disgusting. If he was my son I would be ashamed of him.”
That’s a white man upholding the pure white woman stereotype, its obvious he’s phony.
From the site statement:
This is very interesting. I think one of the few valuable thing about websites that host extreme beliefs and ideologies is that they tend to say something about the more moderate. It’s just that the extremes take it much, much further in zeal. For example an extremist site like Stormfront may not be representative of average whites, but I think most whites believe many things on there about blacks, but in more moderation. Extreme Islam doesn’t represent most Muslims, yet I think in similar fashion, you can find moderate muslims who share many of those beliefs(views on America, Palestine, Jews, etc), just not taken to such a level as Al Queda.
The guy that wrote the white female worshiping blog said that getting a white woman is tantamount to black men living up to their full potential, and that got me thinking. For the brothas that do date white and ONLY white, I think that’s what’s really going on deep down. It is like a self-actualizing experience for them. Most may not even be consciously aware of why they’re doing it, but this extreme guy with the blog who is obsessed with white females gives a bit of insight into that mindset and I think you can see a grain of truth into the black guys who exclusively white.
I don’t think it’s self-hate as much as it is lack of self-value. That they need #1 a woman to feel good about themselves, and #2 a woman of another race to feel good about themselves. That said, I don’t think all black men that prefer white women’s beauty over black or Asian women’s beauty are full of self-loating or lack of self-value, there are always going to be some men just attracted to something “exotic” just like there are Kim Kardashians out there who love black men. Or white men who love Asian women’s beauty. Some people are perfectly healthy, adjusted individuals that are just attracted to features of another race. There’s room for them too in this world.
I agree with Tulio more than Erzulie: I think he is black but from being brought up by his white mother he has a high degree of internalized racism.
Tulio:
I did a post on Kola Boof, the woman who made that claim about Osama and Whitney:
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/kola-boof/
Satire or not, White Goddess blog (well, its author) is disrespectful.
Scary.
I have to say, though, a lot of men fetishize certain female “types”.
Hell, I hear all the time – from black as well as white Americans – how “great” Brazilian women are. This is a myth that even American women seem to have internalized.
And sure, some Brazilians are very beautiful. But, as it is with Americans, most aren’t.
Try saying that around certain Americans, though, and you’ll be roundly flamed.
Beauty of Brazilian women is praised (or, should I say, fetishized) throughout world. I remember a friend of mine was disappointed when he saw a photo of my Brazilian friend (who is a pretty girl). But the problem was, she wasn’t “exotic” enough and “didn’t look Brazilian” to him.
White Goddess is very disrespectful towards all women, especially black and white ones.
Good point: liking white women is one thing, but disrespecting women is wrong no matter what.
A white friend of mine just got back from a year in England where no one believed that she was Brazilian (she’s from a small German colony in the south).
Also, I agree with Abagond: liking is one thing, disrespecting is another.
Abagond, Ana Paula wrote an article years ago about this point, specifically directed towards black americans who say they “love” Brazil. She tried to get it published in “Roots”, but it was apparently too harsh for them. Any chance of you taking a look at it and seeing if it could be posted here – or cross posted to our blog? Ana would really like to get a lot of black americans talking about what she sees with regards to black american sexual tourism and so-called race tourism.
How can I shoot you this article for evaluation?
Email it to me: abagond at gmail.
Not to get too off the original subject, but speaking of black male sex tourism in Rio, there was an NPR spot about it a few years back:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5643506
Brazilians(at least Cariocas anyway) have themselves to blame for their sexualized reputation around the world, parading mostly naked women down the sambadromo during Carnival, the dry hump dancing at funk Carioca parties, and didn’t Brazilians invent the thong bikini? They’ve kind of given themselves that image in the world as a sexually intense country. I’m not saying it isn’t overhyped to any degree in the mind of gringos, but there’s a degree of truth in many stereotypes.