I love thick women: women with a good figure and plenty of meat on their bones. Like Beyonce, Sophia Loren or even Jennifer Lopez. But not with so much meat on her bones that she loses her figure and becomes fat.
Thick women are beautiful. I love the way they look. They turn me on.
I used to think that all men liked thick women. Far from it: it seems that most men in North America, Europe and East Asia like thin women. Only black and Latin American men seem to generally prefer thick women.
I never did understand what men who like thin women see in them. Some have great legs and some have beautiful faces that you could look at forever, of course, but they do not have much of a body compared to thick women.
Like Naomi Campbell, for example, is beautiful, but I am always left wishing there was more of her! That she not only had great legs and a great face, but a great body too.
Or take Annette Bening. She has a pretty face but is shaped too much like a boy for my tastes. Yet she is married to Warren Beatty, a Hollywood lady’s man who has had many different women and could have married any one of them. Yet he married her. Some men truly do like thin women – it is not just because they are in fashion at the moment.
Thin women were seen as the height of beauty in North America in the 1920s and 1930s and again starting in the 1970s. But from the 1940s to the 1960s the great beauties had hourglass figures: Sophia Loren, Elizabeth Taylor, Marilyn Monroe, etc. Clearly men’s tastes in women are partly shaped by the society they live in.
For me a thick woman has a better shape to her body, which makes her more beautiful. There is more woman to her, more to look at and feel. She looks better and feels better. She feels right.
Most thick women have big wide hips, which I love, as well as a big bottom and thick thighs and nothing turns me on more than that, especially in bed. And to see a woman like that in tight blue jeans is heavenly.
Not fat and ugly, but heavenly. Heavenly because I like the way it looks. Heavenly because I know what it feels like.
When I hold a woman I do not want to feel her bones. When I want to run my hands down her back I want something I can feel when I get to the bottom, something that sticks out from her body that I can put my hands on. And I want to press my body into hers. I cannot do that with a thin woman.
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I actually got choked up when I read this. Living in the u.s. today I constantly feel pressured to be rail thin for men to be attracted to me. I have a classic curvy hourglass shape (not fat) But I’ve never heard a man express his appreciation for such a body as in this article. Thankyou!
Wow, you’re welcome. I am glad I wrote it.
I THINK THAT I AM CONFUSED WITH THE WORD THICK OK IM A FEMALE AND GUYS TELL ME IM THICK AND THEY LIKE THAT THEY SAY I GOT A BLACK GIRLS BODY AND THATS A COMPLIMENT TO ME SONGS SAY THICK HOURGLASS WOMAN WHICH IS GOOD
IS THICK AND HOURGLSS THE SAME>???????????????
In most cases it is the same, but if you can see a woman’s rib bones, for example, she would not be considered thick.
I have a post on the meaning of thick with some examples here:
http://abagond.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/thick-black-women/
I definitely agree. I’ve had many couples in my life, so I guess that’s a sample large enough, and I can surely say that the smallest waist-to-hip ratio, the better lover she is! In all senses!
I am an African woman and I Love my body, small waist, thick thighs and hot hips. Never wanna loose that, and I know that my fellow African ladies would agree if their pround of their heritage.
I meant ‘proud’ of their heritage.
Some African brothers are changing and increasingly prefer leaner women but my advise to the ladies is to remain healthy, thick & to maintain what was given to you.
There’s nothing like a nice waist line, thick thighs and a decently shaped booty.
I agree!
I really wouldn’t describe Kelis as “thick” anymore since she lost a good 15 or 20 lbs since “Tasty.” She’s a pretty small girl, but she does have some meat on her bones. She doesn’t look emaciated. I’m a woman and hell, I notice when a woman with a great figure enters a room.
People use “thick” and “fat” interchangeably. They aren’t the same. It’s kinda like the misuse of “curvy,” “healthy,” and “voluptuous.” Increasingly, I see black men in particular gravitating towards the stick thin look so I guess that leaves me with the Latin men. I could starve all I want (and I have in the past). My hips are going NOWHERE. My ribs jut out, my collarbones look like weapons, my chest disappears and my hips hold strong.
Thin is held up as the height of beauty but many women will never reach it no matter how much weight they lose: their body is not built to be thin but to have children and continue the race.
Sophia Loren? She may not be thin and can be consider thick, but she has no shape/ curves. A woman with azz and thickness doesn’t equal fineness. She has to be the whole package: Great face and body (not just azz and/or tits or/and thickness) I swear anything pass for a “dime” or “fine” nowadays
You need to see Sophia Loren in “Boy on a Dolphin”. Then tell me she is not great looking.
I think I’m love.
Thank you for having the temerity to speak opening about this. Sure, you’re the vocal minority on the issue of meaty women, but I believe your honesty and as a woman of substance, I appreciate your stance.
LK
THICK WOMEN ARE BETTER ANND IM WHITE
I M CRAZY ABOUT THICK WOMEN WHITE OR BLACK DOESNOT MATTER THEY ARE SO LOVELY..
AND WHEN GET IN BED MORVELOUS FOR EVERYTHİNG.
I SPENT MORE LOVEFULL NIGHT WITH THİCK AND PLUMPER..I LOVE THEM..WHENEVER I LOOKED THEY BORST AND HIP I M GETTING UP AS A HORSE AND RIGHT AWAY I WANT TO GET BED..THEY MADE ME SEXAPEL..I LOVE FAT AND PLUMPER WOMEN EVERY TİME..
AND THEY MAKE ME FULL SATISFACTION WITH ALL POSITIONS OF LOVE…
I am white American man and I love thick women.
I love thick women who have a shape and that have hips! Women (in my opinion) push themselves too hard to be “models”, it’s not attractive, it’s not natural. Give me a woman who has a solid hour glass shape anyday.
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Tue 23 Sep 2008 at 23:38:21
I love thick women who have a shape and that have hips! Women (in my opinion) push themselves too hard to be “models”, it’s not attractive, it’s not natural. Give me a woman who has a solid hour glass shape anyday.”
I could not agree more!
I agree!
I hate how all the celebrities look like boys. It’s honestly kind of frightening… they don’t look like they’ve gone through puberty yet.
And I’m a white guy from the states
I agree too. Thin women do not turn me on much because they do not have much of a figure. They do seem pre-pubertal or boyish to me too, some of them.
I see what you saying. It’s kinda like when women like men that are tall. They like that because it’s considered masculine. And men also like women who have curves because it’s considered feminine and naturally beautiful.
But personally, a woman doesn’t really need to be thick for me. Just look at someone like Nicole Scherzinger.
True, Nicole Scherzinger is good looking!
Aw you all are sweet! I hate how Vogue and Elle and other fashion mags push the rail thin ideal of a woman. Curves are what a man deserves in a woman, lol!
I loved reading this article.
I work in a city surrounded by youthful thin women. I am 30 and a mother of three – and even when I was 18 my figure was 38 – 24 – 38. I always wonder if I am fat or thick. I will admit that latin men or black men will hit on me alot, but then I look at myself and compare myself to women I see in the media or at work and think…I must be fat. I truelly enjoyed your article. It was a beautiful tribute to a form often overlooked.
38-24-38 is not fat!! It is perfect! I can see why black and Latin men would hit on you. But it does fall well outside the range of what most white American men consider desirable.
That was at age 18.
I have had three children.
Same Ratio – but its 44 – 30-44
thick women are beautiful but why people need to say negative things about thin women? just because she’s not shaped like a coke bottled doesn’t mean they aren’t beautiful. hollywood may glamorize thin women but not everyone thinks that way. look at noami campbell, halle berry, and other women who are skinny but they also have curves. not everyone in this world wants to be a skinny girl but we don’t have to
pick on them to uplift thicker women. i bet there are skinny women who don’t feel beautiful because of the way they look or they were picked on. skinny women are just as beautiful as thick women.
I agree Lil’vina. Just yesterday as I entered my office I uttered my catch phrase to fellow worker – “Damn Skinny *itches”. She claims she is going to have a shirt made with that on it for me. We were walking past three very thin girls who work on the floor above us. She asked me why I dislike skinny women so much when I am always talking about “loving the skin your in” and she sees men hit on me when we get food or coffee. I stopped and thought about it and realized that if I could swap my slightly overweight, yet curvy body for a thin body with no curves…I wouldnt. I love looking and feeling like a women. I couldnt leg press 500+ lbs with skinny legs anyway…or carry a 4 yr old, a baby, their bags and my brief case all at the same time…BUT – why should I dislike them for the way they were born. Its as dumb as me disliking a person because of their skin color or their eyes. I hearby vow to only utter my phrase when a skinny girl talks about being fat.
thanks davida! there is another post called thick black women and i wrote about how people on the page were saying negative things about skinny women. i think all shapes and sizes are beautiful but people think if you look a certain way then you’re beautiful and if you don’t you’re ugly. yes i’m a skinny woman but i don’t think there’s nothing wrong with it but people think you’re skinny, you don’t eat or your bulimic and i think it’s dumb to assume that and a woman that is skinny can also can curves. blame hollywood for brainwashing people into thinking we must look that way and it’s sad. what about the women who are models that are skinny but take care of themselves and don’t have to starve to be a model? a girl can be naturally skinny just as much a girl can be naturally thick. this isn’t making an excuse because there are some skinny women who feel that way and any women can carry babies regardless of how much she weighs so i find it kind of dumb. i just say that we are all beautiful and shouldn’t have to feel neglected because of how someone else feel.
Oh I know you can carry a baby girl – I ment. well – I generally carry about 70 – 90 pounds extra when you add two of three sons, one in a baby carrier, diaper bag, lap top, purse, gym back…all in my arms. I am a big strong scottish lass – ment for harsh winters on the highlands. Anyway
I did read an article that says men prefer thinner women when the economy is good and thicker women when the economy is bad. Thin women can have the appearance of fragile while thicker waisted women appears stable. It was a study done to see why societies trends swing.
The outcome was blonde and thin was in when money is flush (blonde being perceived has luxurious, youthful and expensive) and dark haired thicker women when its tough times (brunette being seen as stable and strong – same as thicker waistes). So with the economy the way it is – I should be good!
One commenter said there was a study that said the rich and well-to-do prefer thin women while the poor prefer thicker women.
I am not going to cry over thin women and their body image: they got all of Hollywood and the fashion industry telling us how beautiful they are.
The study I was talking to I believe was from the book “do gentlemen really prefer blondes” They also found all things being equal – hiring manages tend to hire brunettes of blondes.
well abagond that’s hollywood not real life. there are skinny women who don’t feel beautiful because many people have picked on them. thick women may have it worse but that’s hollywood. so you don’t have to cry about it but at least be open minded that skinny women have issues with their just as much as thicker whether you want to hear it or not. i was picked on at times because i didn’t have a body like the women you like but i don’t want a man that’s gonna want me for how big my ass is. i’m not saying all men do it but most do. so it’s wrong to pick on thin women just to make thicker women happy and we didn’t make hollywood accept us, hollywood did that on their own so blame them and other people that make people think that being skinny is beautiful. you can like thick women because i don’t have a problem with that but don’t come up here saying negative things about skinny women because we’re not shaped the way you like your women. so have some damn respect.
What negative things have I said about skinny women other than to state my preference?
Women of all shapes and sizes go through body image issues. And women of all shapes and sizes can be beautiful.
I may prefer thick women, but that does not stop me from seeing the beauty in thin women like Naomi Campbell, YaYa Da Costa, Jill Marie Jones and others, whose beauty I have written about on this very blog.
well on your other you said that thin women don’t have any shape and that’s not even true to begin. other girls that are skinny do have a shape to them and not built like a ruler. i don’t have a problem that you have a preference but don’t think that thin women don’t have a figure to them because of the way they are.
The heart wants what the heart wants – big girls, skinny girls, girls who play with rocks..smart girls, silly girls, girls in knee high socks. I have a friend who likes itty bitty tiny girls, no butt, tiny waist..almost like a 12 year old girls boyd (but with big fake boobs). I tell him he has serious issues and he is ignoring so many other women who could make him happy – his response (similar to my opening line, but about an organ located a bit lower on his body)…I know he’s a pig…but over all a good guy.
well people need to learn to appreciate other women just as much as thick women. no woman in their right have to feel bad about how their shape and neither should I. people want to blame hollywood because how they put skinny women as being beautiful and put women that’s thick or big down, but most black men turn around and do the same thing when they see a skinny black woman that doesn’t have a fat ass or wide hips. half of the time it does come off as being sexist and can’t appreciate a woman for who she is and most don’t want to admit it. i’m not saying it’s all black men but there are some out there. i got my preferences in guys but you don’t see me dissing someone because they may be skinny or fat, they’re not muscular or has a big “you know what”, which i don’t do but it’s wrong. like i said before, every woman of all shapes and sizes have issues with their bodies because they look at celebrities and models and see that they are perfect and have no flaws but most of the time they look photoshopped. hollywood is the one that brainwashes people into thinking that every young girl wants to see skinny and will do anything to be skinny. but you never hear a girl that feels the exact opposite and wants to be curvy and have a big butt because she sees that as being beautiful and guys would talk to her more. and she’s a skinny girl but i bet people would think the girl is crazy because everybody likes their women skinny. does anybody know a girl or a woman that wants to be skinny besides the women in hollywood? i don’t and i know some skinny girls that want to have a body like the girls they see in the music videos, and i mean hip hop videos. and just because hollywood may look at skinny women as being beautiful doesn’t society as a WHOLE would think that way. the only thing i can say is the more you put women down because of how they look the more they are going to feel about their bodies and about themselves.
Most of the women I know complain that they are too fat – even very beautiful curvy ones. I almost NEVER see a girl wish her butt was bigger…all they every talk about is that they are too fat..even if they way in at 120. I am surrounded by women who hate how they look. I cant even shop at most high end fashion stores or frankly even bloomingdales because I dont fit into any of the clothes. and I am a size 14/16. thats ridicoulous. My boss gives me a gift ceriticate every year to a store that doesnt carry clothes in my size…I am apparently to large. I dont know anyone who would prefer my boyd shape over a skinny.
Society as a whole does prefer thin women
the “black” culture is a minority culture. The majority, as documented by abagond – is a “white” culture. And they control almost all media. Magazines, TV, Movies, Books all say to be skinny is to be beautiful. if your read a fiction book, where the women is the main character – she descirves her self as curvy or being over weight and weigh in about 120. Ridicoulous. A women with a hourglass shape who weighs in at 180 is never shown or held up as beautiful. Hip hop culture may idolize the thicker women, but it is not mainstream. Dolls that little girls play with, Even “ethinic dolls” or thin. I hated barbie doll as a child, at 7 i recongized that i could never be her and got jealous and would refuse to play with my sister. why is britney spears famous? She cant sing – she is thin and blonde. thats why. Most of american worships thin blonde women – not women with curves. I have friend who no matter how thin they get, are never thin enough. Its a sickness…
i don’t like how people think it’s wrong to be skinny, as if it’s some type of curse. you are who you are and shouldn’t have to change yourself just to please someone. davida i agree with what you said but society as a whole don’t always seem to view skinny women as beautiful and curves as fat. that’s the media and hollywood because they brainwash and make young women feel bad about themselves. i don’t worship britney spears because she can’t sing and can’t dance worth of shit. but i know plenty of people that love beyonce because she represents curvy women and you don’t have to be thin in order to make it and she got way more talent and better songs than britney can even hit a note. yes it is a sickness that people want to be thin but thin people get picked on just as much as thicker women because what they on t.v. so they think that all thin women don’t eat, starve themselves, make themselves throw up after they eat. but people shouldn’t have to assume it’s all thin women because everyone is born different. at hollywood is starting to appreciate women with curves and then people gonna start saying negative shit about thin women. don’t knock us down just to uplift thicker women. we got body issues just as much as women who have a big butt. when i was younger, i didn’t like my body because i didn’t have much of a shape compared to the girls that always got the attention because they have curves. so white people may view thin women as beautiful but not every race, especially black men because they love women with a fat ass. and of course they’re gonna talk about women wanting to be skinny because that’s what you hear and always hear but you never hear about women who want curves, who want that hourglass figure, just to have that attention that most of the girls that has curves but no one wants to hear that because they’re focused on the women who’s dying to be thin. i think it’s sad that we have to put someone down, especially women, in order to fit in and be beautiful. a woman shouldn’t have to feel ashamed because of the way she looks whether she’s skinny or curvy.
exactly – the sickness isnt “wanting to be thin” or “wanting to curvy” – or even “wanting to be tan” or “wanting to be lighter” – its not about blonde hair, black hair or red hair.
This sickness you discribe is about – not being happy with yourself.
Its okay for a man to prefer a skinny women…thats what he prefers.
Its okay for a man to prefer a thicker women.
Its okay if you are most attracted to men with broad shoulder, black hair, hazel eyes and strong hands – or whatever.
If we are strong and confident and love how we look…we attract that right people to us.
I am not every mans cup of tea and neither are you. We cant be – thats what is so great. The variaty.
You dont want a man who chooses you soley because of your booty anyway. You want a man who wants YOU…and YOU are not dictated by the size of your bumm….just like the size of my waist or thighs or what ever doesnt dictate the person I am.
i agree with you 100% because at the end of the day someone will appreciate you for who are and not what kind of body you have. like you said it’s a sickness that women are trying to be perfect or having the perfect body because they want to feel loved or accepted by and it’s sad. and i also agree with women getting tans or bleaching their skins in order to be considered beautiful. most of that you hear is in the black community because we still deal with light skin/dark skin issue. but there are most white women that you see on t.v. getting tans, getting implants in their lips, butt and breasts because they want to look more ethnic, in other words, a black woman. i think there’s nothing wrong with change but i don’t like the fact that women in today’s society have to change the way they look in order to be beautiful and feel accepted, regardless of what race you are. there were times i didn’t feel beautiful because of my skin tone, the fact that i’m dark skin but i learned to deal with it and learn to accept the skin i’m in and i know that i am beautiful and someone will see me for that. like you said you want a man to like you for YOU and the size of your butt or hips because at times it does come off as being sexist in my opinion. that’s what i’ve been trying to say is that skinny women have body issues just as much as thicker women so when i see people here thinking that skinny women aren’t attractive and they look like boys, how do you think that’s gonna make a girl that’s skinny feel? because they don’t have a big ass or thick hips and thighs, they’re not beautiful? just because hollywood don’t think that curvy women are beautiful doesn’t mean we should pick on skinny women. i’m pretty sure that skinny women don’t feel confident about themselves even though hollywood likes skinny women. but i agree that this sickness is all about not women being happy with themselves because they’re too focus on hearing what the media thinks or what people say about them and they get affected by it. then they look in the mirror and see something that they don’t like and start having body issues with themselves. then we attack people that has the body that we want and say, “they’re fat”, “they’re skinny”, you know negative shit. we’re too focused on what we see on t.v., magazines, models and it’s an epidemic with young women. as for britney spears, she is skinny but she has meat on her bones compared to most white women in hollywood that’s just downright thin. the only reason why she’s famous because she’s a sex symbol and puts herself out there like that. christina agileria on the other hand is thin but she can sing her butt off and has more talent but people rather listen to someone that can’t sing than to someone that can sing. that’s why i don’t listen to a lot of celebrities and watch a lot of t.v. that’s gonna make me feel i’m not beautiful. i just wish women can be themselves without having to feel ashamed about how they look.
“When I hold a woman and run my hands down her back I want something I can feel when I get to the bottom, something that sticks out from her body that I can put my hands on. And I want to press my body into hers.” –> sexy!
i totally agree every single word he said, i would say the same thing.
Thank you
I couldn’t agree more. I love the hips, thighs and butt on my beautiful wife. Yeah, she’s round and curvy, and I love it.
Meat is for men… bones are for dogs! You can keep all those skinny girls.
obviously i’ve seen some guys that like skinny women so there’s nothing wrong with that. that sounded ignorant.
Oh gosh, another post bashing thin women. I am not going to let ANYONE convince me that my thin frame is unattractive, that I’m not a real woman (I’ve been through more before the age of 16 than most women twice that age has with resilance) or that I’m not feminine. I know some people have to make themselves or other feel better about themselves, but that shows a lot of insecurity.
Yes, thin women can and do have children everyday. Yes, thin women are beautiful. Yes, Hollywood does celebrate thinness, but how many of us live in Hollywood?
And Steve, that phrase is so played out. I’m not meat or bones – I’m a woman.
And Davina is right, you don’t want a man who wants you soley for a fat butt. Those types of men I would tend to be leary of anyways because they seem very lustful and swarmy.
Also, I don’t get this idea that thin women have a harder time reproducing than thick. Most women all over the world are thin as a whole. Africa, India, Asia, ect. and are overpopulated! We are one of the only few countries that are on the heavier side and we’re not AS overpopulated as other countries. Where did you come up with this logic? And pleeaase don’t tell me some study.
Why do so many of the posters on here get so riled up when some say that they “prefer” women who aren’t thin?
Thiness is celebrated, hardcore, by Western society so it’s not as if it’s underappreciated.
I say, “do you”, appreciate yourself and love yourself and damn those who don’t appreciate and love you.
That’s a noble idea, right? Does anyone agree?
i agree
We get “riled up” because along with showing appreciation for thick women, someone inevidibly will put down thin women in the process. “They look like 12 year old boys”, “They look, feel better”, “More woman”, “they can’t reproduce” and my favorite “real women”. And the old, played out phrase “Don’t no man want a bone”. Those are just a few examples.
I just cannot get people to understand that putting one down to uplift the other is just as bad as the other way around. Why can’t ALL women be uplifted? People looove to make thin women the scapegoat for their frustrations with “societies views”.
Mynameismyname says to do you and damn everyone else. That is good advice, but it is not applied women thick women are involved. I guarantee that if there was a blog about “Why I love Thin Women”, you haven’t seen people be “riled up”. Again, double standard. And yes, I am doing me, but then again I get so tired of people unapologetically bashing who I am physically so that other people can feel good about themselves.
well mynameismyname, i will do me because i know i don’t need abagond or anyone else telling me how thin women are. we’re beautiful as every other women in the world. hollywood glorifies thin women but they’re always looked at as being anorexic or hasn’t eaten. hollywood is sexist when it comes to woman’s bodies whether they’re thin, curvy, or big and i think it’s sad. if abagond wants thick women then i’m not mad because that’s what he prefers. i just don’t agree on people thinking it’s okay to bash thin women because we don’t have hips, thighs and a big ass. we’re all women and it seems no matter how many times someone says that, some will choose to be ignorant and stupid. but like mynameismyname says, i will do me and to hell with everybody else got to say because thin women are beautiful!
Some of these comments are just unbelievable.
It seems like American society has got thin women thinking that the whole world must find them beautiful, that those who do not must keep their mouths shut!
I agree it is insecure to go out of your way to put down others, but it is just as insecure to see a slight where none was intended.
I never said thin women were not real women, that they could not reproduce. If I did, please point it out because it must be a mistake or something badly worded. My sister is thin and has a child so I know those things just are not true.
But I did say that thick women look and feel better, that I do not like feeling bones, that thin women are shaped too much like boys. But all that was stated as what I prefer. Notice the “I” in “Why I love thick women”.
Plenty of men, even black men, like thin women, so I thought people would read my post as just one taste among many, which is just what it is.
Note, I never said thin women look like boys, period. They do not. But their shape does look more like that of a boy when compared to thick women because their figure is thinner. I was trying to get across why I find a thin figure unappealing. Maybe I succeeded all too well.
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How could you not see a slight in “No man wants a bone”, or some commentors stated that thin women look like 12 year old boys or as you say, that they’re shaped too much like boys. That’s not meant as a slight? Come on! That is totally defeminizing thin women. It’s just like if someone said that short men are not man enough or look like little girls because of their height. That is stripping short men of their masculinity.
And no, I do not think that the whole world must find thin women beautiful, but we shouldn’t have to stand for slights and insults either.
Like I said before, it would be really interesting if some man posted a blog about why he loves thin women and finds thick women’s figure unappealing. Wow, could you imagine the replies.
“it would be really interesting if some man posted a blog about why he loves thin women and finds thick women’s figure unappealing. Wow, could you imagine the replies.”
there are blogs like that – lots and lots. and then there is almost every magazine on the racks.
And the replies – mostly moe men bashing thicker women.
Hey some men love me – some men find me fat and unappealing…thats their issue. Only one mans opinion matters to me – and I wear his ring.
Well said.
anon: I will defend my own statements but not those of other commenters.
well abagond you did say in your other posts that thin women do have boyish figures, or you said that they seem boyish to you because they don’t have the qualities you like in a woman. i guess no matter what we say, there are some people that won’t get it.
WOW… I am just amazed with your statement. I love my booty, but growing up I was always teased by my girlfriends since it is really “noticeable.” I never had problems with boys because of it tho. But it was back home (I am an African gal)… here in America the thin concept is so strong that I would never hear someone saying something like this. Reading your blog brings me happiness and joy.
Thanks so much
PS.: English is not my language, so forgive me for any unclear sentence.
Stop using the media and magazines as an excuse. They are so irrelevant and so indirect in our everyday lives. I go by what I experience on the real and in person. The women (and some black men) who make rude comments about me because of I am thin. As Davina states, she calls women “Skinny B******”. Yes, I’ve been called that before for no reason. And for what? So, no, it’s not always about what a man thinks or whoever put the ring on your finger. It’s about the negatitivity and vicious comments that some thin women experience on a daily basis either directly or indirectly.
Thick women can complain and gain support all of the time about their “negative treatment” from the media, but if a thin woman does the same, no one understands.
Lilvina is right, no matter what we say, people refuse to understand.
The only way Abgond or others will understand is if their daughters grow up to be thin and some of the hate that they experience from it. Then maybe you’ll finally be more apathetic to everyone’s feelings, not just thick women.
Yep – I also said skiny B*tch is about the additude – not the size of the women. I have even called guy friends that. Its the “oh I cant possibly eat all that cause I might get fat” additude…when they are skinny as a rail. The constant dieting, the fear of any bit of fat. Thats what a skinny b*tch is to me. Not just any thin women. I have thin friends who happen to be that way. They exercise and eat right – but its because they like it – not because they have massive body issues. And I find them beautiful. Skinny B*tches have body issues and are always worried about their weight, and are hung up on what the scale reads and what size clothes they wear. Skinny B*tches think my size 14 means I am fat and the fact that I eat a cupcake now and then means I have no self control.
As for thick women getting support – abagonds website is the ONLY site I have come across that extoles the curvy women. At least in a postive and wholesome way.
Nawww, that’s not entirely true. Women could see another woman walking down the street minding her own business and call her a skinny b****. She has no idea what her attitude or dieting habits are. A lot of these comments are out of pocket and about random thin women. I’ve overheard random women say them before. It IS possible for some women to have naturally high metabolisms.
And then Monique has that book “Skinny B**** are evil”?
You don’t see thin women saying thick women are “Big or thick b******”. Thick women who overcompensate with confidence, go around declaring how beautiful they and their curves are and putting down women who are not like them. Soliticting apathy and compliments from people by complaing about how the media is so unfair. And from personal experience, try to tear you down in the company of men or even put their butt in your face while dancing to “Baby Got Back” (btw was one of most ridculous displays I’ve ever seen). To me, that’s what classifies a b****.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with thick women at all. I just don’t like the antics displayed by SOME. I love truely confident thick women like Oprah who thinks she has a weight issue, but doesn’t project that onto other women. She does what SHE has to do to look and feel the way she wants while not putting down others in the process. That’s a confident woman!
And just google “why I love thick or curvy women” and you’ll find a plethera of websites and or blogs just like this one.
The reason I’m so passionate about this is because I’ve had so many experiences with silly and petty women. It is my goal to confront issues like this and make people understand a different perspective.
my suspicion is – thick women who call thin when skinny b** chs to so out of a lack of self confidence.
So to – thin women who tear apart a larger women do so because they have to pick apart someone.
Now – a man can say – I dont like X because to me it looks like X. Its how he feels. Some men feel larger women look fat and unattracitve, others find her perfect. I have a friend who prefers women at abut 90 lbs, preferably with large breasts (fake)…its what he likes. am I offended that he doesnt find me attractive…not in the least.
anon everything you said is exactly how i feel because people constantly brag how hollywood treats thicker women when we’re not a part of it. i don’t know what it’s like to be in hollywood and deal what other women have to go through but stop trying to point the finger at the media because unfortunately, that’s the media and that’s what they do. all we’re trying to say is understand where we’re coming from. any woman, skinny, thick or fat, can be treated like shit because they’re body is different. but the fact that people choose to uplift thick women but put down thin women is wrong. but like anon says, the only way people will understand if it happens to their daughters and they’re getting teased because they are too thin and not womanly enough, then maybe they will see what we are talking about. frankly i could care less about hollywood because i’m not in that lifestyle nor do i want to be because all it does is promote negativity. i didn’t like the fact that Monique had a book called “skinny women are evil.” i bet if a skinny chick came out with a book talking trash about thick women, oh boy, controversy. i’m all for loving yourself and being comfortable in your own skin but i don’t like it when they are proud of their bodies but then start trashing other women so they make themselves feel better. it’s wrong and make women that don’t have curves feel bad. i think we need to stop all this b.s. about body types and learn to accept someone for who they are. enough is enough.
go lil´vina.
abagond- it´s one thing the “industry” keep telling us how to look, and another what we meet in real life and by guys. afterall I girl want to be appriciated ( well first of all by herself, but obvious) by men and not a stupid hollywood doctrine that is more commericalized than true. the problem is that all the ideals affects all girls simulataneously. if someone ( the industry) picks on a chubby girl´s self esteem- she gets bad selfesteem. if some guys picks on a smaller girl because she is a bit thin- the girl gets bad self esteem.
you are allowed to cherish your ideals, but you don´t have to say that all other people are ugly like as if that was some sort of truth. actually , and I utterly and pure easthatcially mean it, there are so many forms of beauty and just beacause of that you have this thing for your thing doesnt mean its universal truth. we all have our things.
personally I have a thing for rather skanky pale english lads with a rascal face. i´m norwegian.
but i´m sure I could change preferences eventually if I needed to.
well I prefer a thinner woman, many thin woman have average size breasts 34b-36c and still have a round rump with a little curve, just enough to old onto. I don’t want tree trunk thighs, thick -jiggly middles and a loose big butt with cellulite, no way.
Win: if she’s fat, then she’s not thick. This is thick:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/24/article-1101109-00799C1500000258-214_224×633.jpg
Win, while I don’t condone putting other women down (thick women are beautiful too), it is admirable that you are comfortable stating what you like knowing that most people condemn your preferance. It is not politically correct to openly admit that you are attracted to thin women. It is appreciated.
I like this word! some one called me this a few months ago at school. but just for the record,my measurements are: 46,26,51;so would I qualify as thick??? beacause if so,I can use another word other than “big”.(which I get called a lot in a good way,I hope.)
I think that interest in thin women is the result of mass media. It is simply unnatural to be interested in a thin woman. Thin women turn me off.
please omar! it’s not unnatural to like thin women. if that’s what you like then that’s your choice.
i feel so good about myself right now. im grateful that you really appreciate black women. somehow, i still wish i was a little thinner–thats not important. abagond, you have raised my self confidence.
-BGWS =)
Is this still going on? Wow. Such a flame war.
@abagond I appreciate your article about shapely women. It’s interesting to read and commendable to voice outside of the status-quo. Living in LA is very hard for a curvy woman and those who are the ‘fashion have nots’ could use a shot in the arm every now and then. Bravo.
As for your thin rebuttal commentators, I understand how you feel. I can. I know that many thin women get the evil eye because of their unwarranted comparison to society, the media, yadda yadda. Still, the gentleman here is talking about his personal preference and he’s entitled to it. It’s his blog and as long as he’s not going on a skinny chick witch hunt and quoting physical violence, I’m cool with that.
But come on…be honest…isn’t it nice to always find a pair of jeans in your size and always on sale? You’re lucky for that blessing alone!
Covering a curvy ass is expensive! I should know!
Body changes: a thin girl in my teens to a petite woman in my twenties to a thick woman in my thirties gradually becoming a ‘big mama’ in my fifties. I’m still the same inner woman to me. Never ever did I hear heterosexual men tell me I’m “too thin, too thick, too curvy or too fat”. It seems a waste of life, love & lust to let the two-dimensional world of fashion, film & barbie rule your body.
@ Anon and li’vina.
Its a shame that you have both had -ve experiences because of your size/weight. I feel that thin frames can be beautiful and feminine. It seems that a war has broken out though.
Is it too much to understand that the bodies of women with very small breasts,hips and/or bums can appear androgenous? Though this is CERTAINLY not the case all the time- one of my close friends has a small bust an bum and looks very much like a woman! There are many examples…
Noone has the right to strip a woman of their feminimity though , and anon raised a very interesting example w/ a short man being considered a little girl bcos of his height, which is incredibly silly!
Jus wanted to add my two cents!
Peace and Love
Annaleisha
annaleisha, thank you! all i’m saying and anon was saying that we, as thin women, have been picked on about our weight and when we express it, people think we complain or we’re hating, which is not the case. why can’t thin women accept their bodies and not be bashed on like thicker women? thin women is beautiful and i’m not forcing anyone’s opinions but at least give us some respect.
I’m confused. Am I reading the same article as you the thin? All I read was a man going on about why he loves thick women. I didn’t see him bashing skinny women. I saw that he doesn’t want to see or feel bones (ditto) but why does that automatically bring the claws out? I am 6ft tall and used to be skinny, but am now thick and either way, I’ve met men who prefer one, the other, or either. I don’t find this article offensive, not because I agree with it, but because I am reading it as what turns one man on. He never said skinny women were disgusting or lesser beings etc, just that he prefers a woman bigger than skinny and smaller than fat. I think most men agree with that, only abagond wants the almighty booty, too.
Is it so hard to just accept that he can praise one without condemning the other?
@avytech
This is one reason.
“I never did understand what men who like thin women see in them. Some have great legs and some have beautiful faces that you could look at forever, of course, but they do not have much of a body compared to thick women.”
This
“For me a thick woman has a better shape to her body, which makes her more beautiful. There is more woman to her, more to look at and feel. She looks better and feels better. She feels right”
And this.
“When I hold a woman I do not want to feel her bones. When I want to run my hands down her back I want something I can feel when I get to the bottom, something that sticks out from her body that I can put my hands on. And I want to press my body into hers. I cannot do that with a thin woman.”
This is another. Quoting you.
“saw that he doesn’t want to see or feel bones (ditto)”
What’s not to understand? And no, not all men agree with this, obviously.
Avytech read the post in the spirit in which it was meant.
@islandgirl
Every quote you listed were cases of him explaining why he prefers thicker women to thinner women. There was no hating there.
Look again:
“I want something I can feel when I get to the bottom, something that sticks out from her body that I can put my hands on…”
He is describing HIS desires.
“For ME a thick woman has a better shape to her body, which makes her more beautiful.”
Even when he says, “I never did understand what men who like thin women see in them.”
He isn’t bashing, but stating that he just doesn’t get it. Much like how I don’t get why some people have certain kinks. It’s a statement of wonder. Not a bash.
A little reading comprehension goes a long way. What I don’t understand is why so many people are lacking in that department.
Anyway, night night.
A little reading comprehension does go a long way, maybe that’s why it should be exercised at bit more and maybe things will be clearer.
What part of “compared to thick women, thin do not have much of a body” or “a thick woman has more body making her more beautiful” does not compute with you in regards to him bashing thin women?
He’s in essence saying that thick women are more beautiful and have better figures and doesn’t get why any man would like a thin woman as if they are so unattractive.
If you can’t understand that, I’m sorry. Maybe you will understand this better. Instead of thick, replace it with white woman and replace thin with black woman.
“I never did understand what men who like BLACK women see in them.”
“For me a WHITE woman has a better shape to her” blah, blah, blah.
It may not offend you as much because you are probably thick yourself. But when the shoe is on the other foot, it is very offensive.
Island girl,
Very well said.
For all that people talk about liking thick women, not falling prey to the media’s upholding of thin women, etc. it’s interesting to note that the “ideal” thick body shape is no easier to attain than a thin one. How many men who like thick women talk about them having big hips, thighs, butts…and flat stomachs??? Now if everything else is big, what are the chances of this girl having a flat stomach? But that’s the image put out there, most often in rap videos. I have a feeling that having a belly would put many thick women in the “fat” category (according to the aforementioned standards). The video vixen/Beyonce-looking thick women do not represent the average thick woman in America. Hell, Beyonce is what, a size 4? Very much on the thin side. Even the men who want them thick want them without jiggle (in the wrong places), without cellulite, and without rolls. So I’m not buying that preferring thick women is some sort of progressive idea, because it still conforms somewhat to very specific American beauty standards.
Jasmin,
I wholeheartedly agree with you and co-sign what you said.
I always found disturbing what people call thick, but in reality there are not that thick ( or just in some place as Jasmin said).
They like them thick and well-toned so at the end everybody end up at the gym ( thin and thick).
islandgirl:
If I prefer thick women, all things being equal, of course, then how do I express it without seeming to bash other kinds of women? Or do I just shut up and keep it to myself?
Abogond,
Okay, let me show you how to express your preference without bashing another. It very simple, really.
I love tall, thin men. To me they are extremely sexy.
So instead of-
Tall thin men are so sexy. For me, a tall, thin man equates security, which makes him sexier and you just can’t find that in a short, stubby man.
Unlike short men, when I’m with a tall man, I feel protected. He feels more like a man.
I love the way tall, thin men looks in his clothes. Heavenly. Not short and stubby, but heavenly.
When I’m with a man, I want to feel secure. Like he will be able to protect me against anything. I want to feel like I’m with a real man, I cannot feel that way with a short, stubby man. I never understood why anyone would see anything in a short, stubby man. I want a real man, not a 12 year old, short little girl.
Why not say-
I absolutely love tall, thin men. They are extremely sexy. First of all, I love how they look in their clothes, especially when they are dressed upscale in a suit. It drives me wild to see a tall, thin man in a nicely cut suit and who smells good.
Also, I love looking up into their eyes when we are together, especially when he looks down and smiles at me. When he has to lean down to hug me, I feel so secure and protected. Like nothing will bother me. The fact that they have big hands and feet are a turn on. There is nothing better than when a tall, thin man cradles his big hand over mine.
See, I expressed my preference for a certain type WITHOUT putting ANYONE ELSE down. Why is that so hard?
@Jasmin
I said this in your other post, but – Thank you! Your post are very thoughtful and well put.
Thanks for asking my advice.
that was great was you said islandgirl. if you’re going to talk how much you appreciate thick women, why not do it without making comments about thin women? i’m attracted to all types of guys, regardless of size, shape and race. i don’t think nobody is better than another person. there are some people put curvy women as the beauty standard just as much with thin women in hollywood. look at the rap videos. all you ever saw was women with big butts, boobs, thighs and hips. you didn’t see many thin women in those kinds of videos and always talk about how much they want a curvy chick. the way i see it they do the same thing just as much as hollywood do with the whole size 0 thing. the reason why women who don’t have the body type you like express their thoughts because they’re tired of having being told what a real woman should like instead of saying “love your body”. beyonce doesn’t look that curvy as much as she puts it out there. she just wears tight clothing to make it seems she has that hourglass figure when she doesn’t. truth is i never looked at abagond bashing thin women but i don’t agree with some of the things he says about thin women. not all thin women are full of bones. i went after the people that bash on thin women while praising thicker women. and just because one person didn’t find the article offensive doesn’t the other person won’t. another thing i do agree with jasmin is that while most guys prefer a thick woman, they also want her to have a fit body, toned and a flat stomach and most chicks that are considered to be thick don’t have that. some do but some i’ve seen don’t. like i said before they’re doing the same as the media and hollywood, pushing another beauty standard on what women should like. the REAL average american woman is women OF ALL SIZES!! from the skinny, to the curvy, and the full figured. not all women are going to look like the women in hollywood, the magazines, even in rap videos.
Thanks Nubiah and Island girl.
While I think you mean well, Abagond, I’m just generally of the opinion that if you have to put down A in order to uplift B, you probably aren’t that secure in your liking of B in the first place.
Islandgirl:
Thank you very much. Your example was very good and clear. I will rewrite my post when I get a chance, like probably this weekend.
Abagond,
Wow, thank you! That would be very refreshing. I appreciate your openess to this.
I too love thick women. I get weak in the knees when I see a beautiful, voluptious woman. It saddens me when so many of them that I’ve met in my time consume themselves with trying to fit into the societal mold of beauty. I think think that all women, thin or thick, should love who they are because their are enough men out here to love and embrace all of you.
Abagond, you and I are nearly on the same wavelength when it comes to a womans body shape. I love thick (voluptuous, curvy etc) women. I also like them slim (not skinny) and chubby (not obese.)
Hey, great minds think alike
ok,so i understand what he is trying to say, but,Abagond, are you talking about the woman with all this tickness all over except the stomach? because there is the thick woman with, kinda big arms, a belly that jiggles, also some strechmarks but she still have all characteristics you like. Maybe a woman like this>http://z.hubpages.com/u/379865_f260.jpg OR this one? http://hotlink.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/6e822bb30faa4f13b4be2c3fe5711ada/m.jpg. Or you are jsut refering to the more athletic thick, kind of a model with more meat? like this http://api.ning.com/files/mBlvHrVrIf11J-u3jGFxjMovuuFKIboVO-Hr7rwvRvTnsF9XHwRvXn0zjS7OhRKMUrNa8CIMLrk-mPKzrSSgrCIi4dXgf5-f/3753courtneyblack.jpg << if its that one then you should say " i like skinny models with hips and ass and voluptuous chest".
I also love thicker women. Friends of mine get surprised that I really don’t get into all of the same celebrities that they do. Jessica Biel, Angelina Jolie, and some of the others are all too skinny for me. I like women like Vida Guerra, Ki Toy Johnson, Beyonce, Elke the Stallin, Buffie the Body, and for some of you who may know who she is, “Pinky!” If you don’t know, I recommend checking her out. Now THAT I could have fun with all day!
Im so glad to read something like this. I am by no means a twig, and I am curvy. My measurements are 38-24-38, and to a lot of the country, id probably be considered morbidly obese, but i dont give a crap. All of those twigs only WISH they looked like real women. Honestly, i dont consider anyone to have a feminine body unless the WHR is UNDER 0.67.
Plus…I know this sounds odd, but to me, this country seems to have a strange obsession with childish looking women…They want a GIRL or a boy, but not a woman…And it makes me wonder if these men are really gay or something because they prefer a manly looking woman to a real true soft female….But i dont know, thats just my strange way of looking at it, LOL.
Id rather have these curves than to be a twig. Its a lot nicer being able to fill EVERYTHING out perfectly, rather than be a twig and look like a human clothes hanger (as my dear husband calls them LOL)
Thank you SO much for this….It has really helped me
acey, i disagree with what you said and i think it’s ignorant of you to say that women who are thin have childish bodies. and not all americans prefer the thin look so to sit here and trash talk thin women is wrong. i’m a thin woman myself and i’m no twig and i don’t know why people think it’s okay to bash thin women just to make thicker women feel good about themselves. all women of all sizes are beautiful and people should see that and stop criticizing. just because guys that prefer thin women don’t make them gay or weird, that’s what they prefer. there’s nothing wrong being so why make a thin woman feel guilty about the way she looks?
First of all, let the thick and fat women have their moment. I’m a slim black girl who is hated by fat/ thick blk women. I am naturally slim. When I was pregnant I weigh 145 and Im 5″5. After I had my baby I lost the weight naturally. My baby weigh 6lbs and I had him 2 wks early. Also, I had him vaginally, but they say skinny women has a hard time having children. BS, most thick/ fat women cannot push theirs out, they have to have a C-Section but they are more woman. LOL Also, Fat/ Thick women are good for sex, but men marry slim curvy women. Cause they already know thick turns to fat and fat turns to obesity. Goodbye